Hone Harawira Talks Peace @ Parihaka 2008

[MoralInvasion]

'Peace' coming from the most racist agitator in the country. Maoris don't live as long because they smoke and eat fatty foods. Maori children fail at school because they're inherently stupid and Maoris fill the prisons because they commit more crime than anyone else.

[Reechan24]

i think that this speech is so influencial and truly underlines what Hone Harawira's views are about. There are alot of people that take his "racist" remarks too seriously. He talks in a way that HIS audience can understand and comprehend, and that audience is Maori. He is saying what alot of Maori people want to say, but cant. I truly enjoyed this speech.

[TheNationalistParty]

Ignore TreeBearOne, he is a total waster, and he fuks bear's arses for a living

[OutsourcetheInbred]

@TreeBearOne

Everything I've said to u is in response to what you've revealed about yourself on this thread. No more, no less.

Grow up treebear, you're boring me.

[TreeBearOne]

you like to look at yourself as intellectually, ethically and morally superiour to me, for arguments sake lets say you're right, i geuss you're used to picking fights with those who are beneath you in every way, probably the only chance you stand of winning an argument, why dont you pick on someone who is your intellectual equal?at least iam punching well above my weight against you, and if you find me boring stop replying! you know you can be quite difficult2understand at times eh? lol

[OutsourcetheInbred]

On YT, you really shouldn't take things so personally. I've merely pointed out a few discrepancies in your posts and put forward alternative perspectives, most of which uve still chosen to ignore.

Now it seems youre intent on dodging the initial subject and only want to put forward self deprecating nonsense.

I fail to see a productive reason to continue our dialogue.

Kia mau tonu te rongo!

Ps. I am not D2U

[TreeBearOne]

iam not taking it personally, iam not even taking it seriously, iam merely pointing out discrepancies in your posts and putting forward alternative perspectives which you've embraced so warmly,lol, the only thing ive dodged is your bullshit! but thanks for finally shutting your mouth and walking away, a bit overdue, iam really surprised you spent so much of your valuable time on a prejudiced, close-minded, habitually ignorant person such as myself, but there you go! nothing better to do i geuss

[OutsourcetheInbred]

'not taking it personally'? lmfao

thanx for that

Oh, and your welcome, it was nothing ; )

[TreeBearOne]

lol, you cant do it can you, you cant walk away, do you wonder why you feel the need to continue to talk to me after you said there was no productive reason too? you like to think your performing a public service trying to educate the intolerant but really you have some complex in which the only way for you to feel good about yourself is to put others down, you get off on this shit! you love stirring shit up and picking fights and thats so unlike maori..lol and your right, it was nothing!

[OutsourcetheInbred]

You may not be productive or logical but your comedic relief is growing on me.

Keep em coming love.

[TreeBearOne]

before you said i was boring.. now iam not? as i said you are very difficult2understand.. at times, but its cool, your hypocrasy and inflated sense of self-importance isnt growing on me but it does show me the real you, you act holier than thou but when it comes down to it you get off on instigating and provoking reactions, its your modus operandi. you have no clue as to how disingenuous you really are, you honestly think your trying to enlighten the ignorant and thats sad

[OutsourcetheInbred]

'hypocrisy'. LOL

Yes, I'm sure that's one word ur familiar with.

Next

[TreeBearOne]

are you sure about that? i am habitually ignorant

[TheNationalistParty]

@TreeBearOne you are a fukin piece of shit and a dumb cunt-fuk off and die prick

[TreeBearOne]

keep em coming love, or have you ran out of steam already? no heart!

[d0ntforgettheballs]

@OutsourcetheInbred fuck me now

[LuvMeLykYuH8Me]

@TreeBearOne hahaha that is sooo not D2U lmao!

[TreeBearOne]

@LuvMeLykYuH8Me ..same piece of shit, differant flies

[LuvMeLykYuH8Me]

@TreeBearOne OMG thats so mean! :-0

[TreeBearOne]

this video should have been called "hone harawira talks PIECE @parihaka", maori want a piece of this and a piece of that, they want their piece and your piece too, maori like hone want everything for maori and fuck everyone else! ...and maori wonder why the rest of nz have a bad opinion of them

[OutsourcetheInbred]

"the rest of nz"? big call there!

[TreeBearOne]

"the rest of nz" comment was an example of figurative language, i thought an hyperbole would better demonstrate my point, i apologize for using such creative license in my youtube postings, in future i will endeavour to get an exact figure as to how many new zealanders have a bad opinion of maori before posting, thank you

[OutsourcetheInbred]

I think prejudiced rhetoric better describes most of that post.

Good luck with that bigot list.

In my opinion, a detailed log of method, procedures and evidence, upon posting, would make it an interesting read.

[TreeBearOne]

you didnt say anything about "most of that post", your issue was with me using the term "the rest of nz", but to address your "prejudiced rhetoric" comment, prejudice means to pre-judge or a preconcieved belief or opinion, my opinions are based on a lifetime of experiance, i am not pre-judging anything, ive seen it happen, iam judging after the fact, its not prejudice, and for rhetoric,it is defined as the art of using language to communicate effectively and based on your reaction, it works!

[OutsourcetheInbred]

After reading your first reply, it became evident your perception of "creative licence", "hyperbole" and "figurative languag" needed some clarification. A conclusion which carries over into your original post, and now your last.

[OutsourcetheInbred]

"they want their piece and your piece too" and "maori wonder why the rest of nz have a bad opinion of them" are perfect examples of prejudiced rhetoric. Also judging after the fact? What fact??

(Putting aside your simplified/misinformed definition of rhetoric), you claim to know the views of all Maori and all non Maori.

[OutsourcetheInbred]

Your opinions are just that, to quote as fact shows a definite predisposition for using rhetoric to defend ur own prejudices.

A lifetime of experience doesnt mean youve gained wisdom, especially if youve closed ur mind to anothers perspective.

[TreeBearOne]

you talk about my "simplified" definition fof rhetoric? what else did you expect, you say iam prejudiced, you say iam a bigot, you qeustion my perception, you say iam close-minded, and then you act surprised that i would use a simple definition, even if i were all of those thing, why spend your time pointing out my deficiancies, do you really have nothing better to do than troll youtube looking for intellectually inferior people to pick fights with, does that make you feel better about yourself?

[jurrrassicsparks]

@TreeBearOne are you a member of the gay bears? if not, maybe you can join me and my group of lusty hairy men.

[TreeBearOne]

you confuse prejudiced with experiance, when you've seen maori receive billions of dollars in cash and assests and continue to go to the government for more money, when you've seen maori try to get ownership of beaches and airspace, when you've seen maori leaders refer to europeans as "white mother fuckers raping the land", when you've seen maori blockading public roads.. when you've seen what ive seen its not prejudiced to say maori want their piece and mine too, its what ive seen, its fact!

[OutsourcetheInbred]

No, your confusing experience with habitual ignorance.

Your misplaced negativity,in my opinion, should be directed at emperial political policies and behaviours that are failing NZ and her ppl, as they are and have in other colonial countries. Supporting but not signing the declaration of Indigenous rights shouldv'e given u a more balanced view of the situation.

The cracks are showing but ur still looking the wrong way.

[TreeBearOne]

so you dont even know me, what ive seen, where ive been, what i know but you are still qualified to determine that my opinion was formed not from my experiances but from habitual ignorance lol that last reply proves that you are actually both ignorant and prejudiced, which explains why you felt the need to accuse me of both those things, people like you try to bring others down to their level.. lol and yeah you're balanced hahahaha you're as fair and balanced as fox news

[TreeBearOne]

if you dont know what i meant then you should have asked for clarification before accusing me of "prejudiced rhetoric" although iam not surprised that you speak first then think later .. by the way, i see no need to outsource the inbred, you're doing fine!

[Epochofbelief]

Make no mistake these people are genetically sick, and probably explains alot of their issues.

[Ueatturdsnow]

@Epochofbelief No matter how hard you try epoch you can't stop us now.... now go suck your sheepscock cause you like to swallow.

[Epochofbelief]

I find these 'inbred' comments interesting. Maori dna is the most similar yet studied. They are descended from no more than 150 individuals who arrived here around 1250ad. At a maximum of two hundred thousand people in the early nineteeth century, this is the most bottlenecked genepool in the history of mankind.

[boarderx113]

@00tdogsuckssheepcock

lol good thing i dont pay taxes then isnt it.

[boarderx113]

lol SMD! white people own this country. now suck our dicks to get the benefit, and no food stamps unless you swallow.

[waatuupp]

No matter how hard you try you can't stop maori now.... No matter how hard you try you can't stop us now....

Rage against that machine.

[boarderx113]

@00tdogsuckssheepcock

rofl, you got any other insults bar bitchfaggit? your un original ass, should learn to speak english. and yeah i can read your name, a dog is a different species to a sheep therefore your name implies you like inter special sex acts. you dumb motherfucker, calling me dumb you dont know shit. get fucked mother fucker. my life has nothing to do with shep what are you on about, if your implying White people are sheep farmers, heres a newsflash so are Maori. your retarded.

[boarderx113]

i have nothing to do with sheep. lol, my life has nothing to do with sheep. it is your life that is based around the doll and fucking your cousins. get a job you inbred savage.

lol with a name like yours id keep comments about sheepshaging to yourself, as you seem to enjoy inter special intercourse.

[Difficult2Understand]

I think you should do some more research. Confiscated land is land that was confiscated usually out of policy against "rebels" refusing to sell or cede, usually by force. "Stolen" land is termed for land that was acquired by the Crown illegally. Its not "lost land" its "stolen land". Even if at the time the transgression was merely a refusal to protect shareholders rights. Mainly though land theft was policy...

You cant tell me that doesnt deserve compensation

[Difficult2Understand]

The Crown owes, not you. You arent The Crown, so dont worry about it.

[boarderx113]

umm where does the crown get its money? taxes so yeah we pay.

[Difficult2Understand]

maori pay taxes too and we also exceed our government output by billions

[plonker00765]

a fight for peace,yea more like piece,of everything,why is it that maori always portray themselves as victims,your children leave school in the third form

because parents let them,role models should be parents,unfortunately maori parents in many cases are absent as far as thier children are concerned,you can't

possibly blame white nz for this.maori are at the sharp end of every bad trait,alcohol abuse,child abuse,violence,prison population,murder,many maori just don't know right from wrong.

[LuvMeLykYuH8Me]

nobody is blaming you, you stupid man, sheesh!

[plonker00765]

i never said he was blaming me,listen to what he says at 2.36, thats like the pot calling the kettle black.can you tell me with honesty that he is not a racist,he is a

hypochrit. and to call me stupid is stupid in itself because you don't know me at all.

you are obviously maori and as such you probably see yourself as a victim,as many maori do,it's time to look to the future and forget about the past,none of us in nz had any bearing on what happened close to 200 years ago.

[LuvMeLykYuH8Me]

"i never said he was blaming me"...and then..."none of us in nz had any bearing on what happened close to 200 years ago" LOL

followed by..."and to call me stupid is stupid in itself because you don't know me at all"...with..."you are obviously maori and as such you probably see yourself as a victim" HAHA

Pot / kettle much???

[plonker00765]

parrot

[Difficult2Understand]

those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it...

you and I may not of had any bearing on what happened 200 years ago to now...but the Crown does and last i checked, the british monarchy is still the head of state

[boarderx113]

different head of state. and no the monarchy has no bearing on what happend 200 years ago noone alive does, therefore i noone owes maori anything.

[Difficult2Understand]

Nup, The Crown is still Head of State...as represented by The Governor General. The only dont have a political say in matters (except The Privy Council) only because we're a declared self governing colony. Our constitutional infrustructure however is still very much a part of the old Empire, now Commonwealth...

[boarderx113]

and yeah i know that. what does that have to do with what i said?

[Difficult2Understand]

my point is that as the legalconstitutional entity, the crown is still responsible for past greivances and future development with maori

[boarderx113]

no Maori are responsible for the developement of Maori. Why do the Maori people need more money when they can get all the services rquired to grow up and earn good money themselves? im not saying there isnt grievances and you shouldnt get compensation for some issues such as land being taken because a family member didnt go to WW1 & 2, but issues arising through disputes over sold land, and land taken when the Maori went to war with the British settlers and lost land shouldnt be compensated.

[Difficult2Understand]

Because when tribes are compensated its the "tribe" that benefits, not individual Maori people, or what, do you think we all receive cheques in the mail or something? Its about putting right past wrongs so that we have the resources to develop our own people, we cant develop our interests without the resources...resources the Pakeha built a lifestyle on at the expense of Maori.

[boarderx113]

i know for a fact some Maori people get checks in the mail. i lived with a Maori lady and her son and she got checks from her tribe. and we havent built a lifestyle at the expense of Maori, i have just as much oppourtunity to live a good life and lifesyle as any Maori person in this country. please explain how my lifestyle is at the expense of Maori when i live in a flat, my mother cant afford food some weeks. how is that lifestyle at expense to Maori? that a fucking racist comment.

[Difficult2Understand]

Cheques in the mail from Treaty Settlements? Unless they are lawyers, accountants, consultants or chairpersons, i highly doubt that.

The lifestyle you have, the free ed, the subsidised health, the oppertunity to work, to feed...all this comes from land, resources and sovereignty ceded at the expense of Maori. Its not your fault no, but its not your problem either.

[boarderx113]

lol yeahp she used to get them cuz she was Maori. from her tribe. and nope she wasnt any of those things. what so your complaining we have all those benefits now? would you rather we didnt take control of this country and left you to die of disease because you had no knowledge without schools?

[Difficult2Understand]

bullshit, you must be mistaken, there is no way maori get paid unless directly involved with the settlements process. what iwi is she from???

you people brought the diseases in the first place you egg

[boarderx113]

im not mistaken, she actually did, and she wasnt involved with settlements, her Iwi just sent her money every month. i asked her about it and she just said yeah we get given money. a waikato tribe not sure which one. it was a big one tho. and yeah but we were immune to them rofl. biological warfare at its finest. but you were already dieing of diseases you couldnt cure when we showed up with our missionairies, we didnt have to treat you.

[urallshet]

@boarderx113 Don't talk shit fool. U brang the diseases here. fucking sheep fucking faggit... go back to sucking sheep cock. Maori had everything here and decided to help out some sheep shagging faggits that couldn't hold up there end of the deal.

[boarderx113]

wow your an angry person. and yeah we brought diseases im not denying that but you were also dieing of your own diseases, are you trying to say that you were 100% disease free with no illness? get fucked you unintelligent bastard. yeah you helped us and we helped you. it went both ways you dickhead.

[matetip]

Hone is the best we got, an yous all know it, thats why yous are so mad at him cause his so damn clever lol so get over it you damn dumb idiots,

[JackSnr]

At least Turia and Sharples go about the same thing skillfully. He is just so tactless.

[PacificNemesis]

@JackSnr I agree

[johnnytanini]

Hone is an arrogant, racist hothead.

Surely the Maoris can find someone better than this twit to represent them.

[biggest23]

Hmm biculturalism aye? Is that what the new word for racism is? Okay lets do it. I promise to do or use not one thing that is part of or has come about through polynesian culture and of course these people who call for this biculturalism will not use or do anything that is part of or has come about through european culture. So, no cars, computers, electricity, internet, planes, metallurgy, hospitals, schools, tarmac roads, shoes, shirts, trousers, spectacles, printed text, I am out of room

[bsdanielm]

This Hone Harawira is a twit.

I've just watched the news where he told the reporter that he does not give a fuck about what people think about his spending of tax payer money.

As an MP - he is the employee of the people..........he is not our boss. This guy needs to seriousely buck up his ideas.

This man does not deserve to be in parliament. Remove this undisciplined moron.

[miere08]

check the guy's body language

[torqueingheads]

The Harawiras are a family of brown scum, Hone's mum Titewhai went to prison for beating Maori mentally ill patients and stealing tax payers money.

[soulbygaze]

get over yourself fool

[MetalRose001]

Hone isn't his mother tho. He took his frustration and anger and turned himself into a political machine.

We all know Titewhai's story T, but thats irrelevant to Hone & his quest.

[torqueingheads]

The whole family are bad, Hone commited armed robbery and but for lack of evidence would've done ten years, the police know it was him.

[MetalRose001]

Oh come off it T. Everyone has a past...and you need to stop living in it. Doing a crime doesn't make you a bad person, especially 20+ years down the track. Move on. Judge him as he is now.

[torqueingheads]

Hey hey, back up the truck here, I aint the one living in the past, that was you.

[MetalRose001]

I aint living anywhere but the present T. If anyone keeps delving into the past it is and always has been you. You should really think about joining me here in the current day, its much more important than looking back to unearth ancient history in order to establish an argument.

If anything the maori party stands for the future

[torqueingheads]

Well there ya go, I understood the Maori party was formed a result of the foreshore and seabed act, and therefor appeals to victimised Maoris who enjoy living in the past. Looks like I've got it wrong again, bugger.

[MetalRose001]

You always have it wrong T. Always.

The maori party appeals to intelligent maori people only. All the dumb ones vote labour.

[torqueingheads]

I dont think even the dumb ones will be voting labour this year, actually most Maoris dont vote and they have no right to complain.

[iroam21]

yeah ur right there torqueingheads, and if u pakeha's had ur way, us maori would still not be voting, u idiot clown....

[torqueingheads]

What are you talking about moron? We gave you the vote and every other right under NZ law. You are treated as equal citizens, now your challenge is to start behaving as such. Or is it easier just to drink, smoke drugs and bash the kids?

[mizrianz]

I just love Hone for his tireless effort to help maori make a stand and to be proud to be maori.

[PounamuKnight]

Toa!