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  • maybe it was night time when bardock and the saiyans approached frieza's ship.. you know, stars and all

  • "Destroying both of us to make sure I don't win isn't any way to fight. It's just another way of giving up."

    Tell that to Raditz.

  • if you look at movie number 2 of dbz you can see that gohan and krillin were breathing in space

  • Wow. I JUST noticed that Bardock is voiced by the same person that does Krillin. Strange that I didn't notice that like, 3 years ago when I first watched this movie.

  • 4:22 frieza has tuberculosis

  • Dragon Ball Z inconsistent? Noooo way...

  • Actually his first lie was saying that he had a brilliant idea!!! XXXDDD

  • I didn't like the stuff about lie or smth ,but still I liked that DBZ music!

  • The first wasn't a lie, all in all. He still destroyed the planet by eating away at the core and making it implode ((Albeit - He didn't push enough through to make it instantaneous))

    Doeesn't matter that it was 7 episodes ;) They know how to hold shit out. It took him, what, 5? To charge up his spirit bomb, after all...

    Three is a lie - But also a bluff. Try and scare him into just giving up, and such.

  • Saiyans with enough training can hold their breathe long enough for extended space travel.

  • @IArtGod ur skin needs air though it doesnt matter about how long u can hold ur breath

  • @IArtGod oh c'mon don't pull shit like that out of your ass. A saiyan has the same anatomy as a human being, holding their breathe is the least of their problems, it is also -190 celcius and their blood will bubble.

  • @sacr3 No way. Saiyans are an entirely different species and are nothing like humans. They don't age a LOT more durable, a LOT more powerful, can transform into apes, i wouldn't be surprised if goku went into a volcano and survived. Or could even breathe in space. Think about it. At a very young age goku and gohan were on they're own fighting dinosaurs can a human do that?

  • the ONLY lie in there was the breathing in space thing....

    also it's important to note freiza's first lie was when he transformed for the first time :) when he claimed his power level in his 2nd form was 1million, when in actuality his power level didnt hit 1 million until his 4th form(before he went to 100% power)

  • Frieza was probably just bluffing cause Goku doesn't know anything about his people. My guess is all saiyans can breathe in space, if Vegeta, Bardock, Broly and Paragus all did it why shouldn't Goku be able to? Also, it would be pretty anticlimatic if the fight between the first super saiyan in generations and the tyrant lord of galaxies only lasted 5 minutes...

  • The best possible explanation would be that Frieza can SURVIVE in space without breathing, even though he says he can breathe in it. also, it makes sense that Saiyans can survive in space with out breathing seeing as Bardock did. Frieza only says Goku can't to scare him into believing it.

    @anime1973 i think it's reasonable to argue that there is still air in the lungs which as long as there is enough to spare, would be enough to speak, although the range of sound admittedly would be limited.

  • What exactly does Frieza breathe when in space?

  • @Izakokomarixyz

    His ego.

  • breathing without air is impressive... but so is talking and making noises without air to convey the sound.

  • Every times I hear Frieza say "Five minutes", I say to myself: "This is going to be a looooooooooooooooooooooooooong night."

  • @MrHellothisisme 5 minutes later

    ITZ CHRISTMAS

  • #1 wasn't a lie...the planet just didn't blow up immediately.

    #2 a simple miscalculation on Friezas part, not a lie.

    #3 we don't know enough about the atmosphere of planet Vegeta to say that there isn't any oxygen where they all are, and they're only there for a brief moment.

  • Bardock doesn't afraid of anything, that's why he could breathe in space. Space was too scared of him to suffocate him.

  • 3rd "lie" was pretty shit

  • i don't think bardock was really in space just the outer region of the atmosphere, yet you still can't breath that far out. also, theres a lot of things in dbz that dont make sense. you have to look past it and understand that its a cartoon made for entertainment.

  • if goku could breathe in sace the whydes he use a freakin space ship 2 go to the dffret plannets in GT huh WHY

  • dude, why do you have cell's theme playing for frieza? wtf

  • and thats how frieza died

  • oh sorry i don't think it's called saiyan battle armor but that's how it's referenced by krilling and gohan... but in reality it's more likely that it's a armor made by frieza and his men for all races under his command.

  • by the way the reason bardock can breathe in space is the saiyan space armor. let me say that again the saiyan SPACE armor. it lets you breathe in space for some reason.

  • @Brian626 no it doesnt you cant prove that

  • actually it probably only did take around 5 minutes for the planet to blow. all the action of the fights occur at amazingly fast speeds so an entire episode of fighting could be fit into a second or two in real life time.

  • THANK YOU FOR FINALLY POINTIN THAT OUT. i thought about that a couple years ago but had nothin to tell anybody:)

  • If goku roughed frieza enough he wouldn't survive th planet's explosion

  • but vegeta, nappa, broly and goku have been in space?

  • Lie 2 = Filler

    Lie 3 = Was still in Vegetas outer atmosphere

  • @Olliesama I could see vegta's atmosphere from space batrdock flew out of the atmosphere

  • nice clips and hd

  • Bardock wasn't in space... Just in the outer atmopshpere of Planet Vegeta.

  • @MrBc223 Everybody needs a party pooper thats why they invited you....

    PARTYPOOPER

    PARTYPOOPER

  • OMG really dude ? those are your infamous lies ? This whole shit is bullshit. The only reason bardock was breathing is because toei animmation allowed him to. In the manga something like that would be impossible! It's defying logic to make a great fight they do it all the time. Sorry but your video is invalid , but not a bad one.

  • Vegeta and Nappa can also breathe in space too. Because they were in space when Vegeta destroyed Arlia.

  • @OrtonRKO4Lyfe That was filler so it doesn't count.

  • @OrtonRKO4Lyfe F I L L E R = Inconsistencies,

  • cool stuff buddy ^^

  • The thing about the planet being destroyed in 5 minutes I found stupid. I watched it recently and thought it took forever.

  • @ddogboy woulda made more sence if he said 5 hours

  • Like Batman

  • THE ANSWER IS OBVIOUS! You can't talk and hear in empty space, yet Bardock was clearly doing so. This suggests they weren't truly in space, but perhaps the outer atmosphere of the Planet Vegeta.

  • Look, ths solution is simpe. Basicaly Sayians can breathe in space (you can see Vegeta and Nappa in space before destroying Arlia), but Goku and Vegeta have been too long on earth without going into space so they lost that ability.

    But Freeza is still evil and kinda pathetic.

  • Ya i also got confused about the saiyans cant breath in space, but bardock did

  • FRIEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZAAAAAAAAA!­!!!

  • u do know that bardock didnt breathe oxygen goku is used to oxygen so he cant help but only breathe air and oxygen

  • The planet did explode in 5 minutes but the anime version added a lot of filler and slowed down the action.

    Not only did Freeza say only he could survive in space, but so did Kaio, the watcher of the North Galaxy. It's not hard to believe Bardock could survive a good deal longer than the average human or that they were actually in the planet's atmosphere.

  • @XmetaI4everX

    Well Cooler and King Cold can survive in space too, so it's safe to assume Freeza's own race can survive in space...

    Wonder how many of his race exist in the Universe, they are probably really weak compared to the Cold Family however... if they exist that is...

  • actually all moments of anyone breathing in space are filler. Never happened in the manga. So when frieza said it, it was true.

    The only exception is the case with bardock, which did happen in the manga. However because bardock and a few hundred other species of intelligent creatures were out there where bardock was standing I have to believe there was air there. Otherwise we would have to believe not only were saiyans and frieza able to breathe in space, but so could hundreds of others.

  • Zarbon: Lord Frieza! Hes beating all our men!!!!

    Dodoria whispers: Like a boss:DD

  • you cant wish someone back if they have been dead for a full year

  • yea true... saiyans can breathe in outer space :D

    a) Bardock was in outer space with the whole saiyan race when they were confronting frieza

    b) vegeta stepped out of a space pod to destroy a planet.. and was talking with nappa

    c) vegeta was trying to locate Goku and was in outer space many times

    d) when vegeta was training to become a super saiyan on some rock or moon in outer space... he wasn't wearing any special breathing equipment

    so yes.. frieza is a liar :D

  • @UnleashTheVoice:

    a) Their location wasn't specified in the manga or he might be able to survive a short bit. No proof he can survive indefinitely like Freeza.

    b) Filler.

    c) Filler.

    d) Filler.

  • @XmetaI4everX

    but frieza wouldn't have known Goku was from earth.. he just knew he was a saiyan.

  • @UnleashTheVoice: Freeza knew of a Saiyan from Earth because of Vegeta and Nappa's trip there. Goku also stated he was a Saiyan from Earth and that he came to Namek to defeat Freeza.

    How else would Mecha Freeza know to go to Earth?

  • @XmetaI4everX

    true dat XD i don't why i said that either i think i was typing in a wrong video. but still... Bardock and the whole army of saiyans clearly were in SPACE :D so still Frieza's theory doesn't work and if they were still in the "atmosphere" they would not even have enough power to face frieza. it would be a poor tactical move which would not come from a warrior race. and if bardock didn't have enough air he would not have been able to shoot an energy blast that was that powerful

  • @UnleashTheVoice: That was Freeza's army not the Saiyan army.

    It was not specified if they were in space in the manga.

    North Kaio, the watcher of the North Galaxy, said ONLY Freeza can survive in space.

  • Bardock is epic, he and Vegeta are my two favourite characters.

  • How can you "breathe" in nothingness and convert it to oxygen...or anything else for that matter...furthermore, there is no pressure in space, so on top of breathing both of them would just have their heads blow up due to the inner pressure expanding the body without having outer pressure to counteract it.

    Yes I know it's a bloody anime, but seriously, at least have your shit comply with the most basic laws of the universe k?...

  • @hadesflames05: In the Japanese manga and anime he said he could survive in space, not that he could breathe in it.

    Blame the Funi dub.

  • Saiyan Saga Vegeta needs a Ki Blast to destroy a planet,yet Frieza needs a fully charged energy attack?

    Fail.

  • Think about it. Planet Vegeta has a gravitational pull 10x greater than Earth's, so it holds in more gases and therefore has more atmosphere extending higher into space. Bardock could've still been in Vegeta's atmosphere

  • @NachyoLulz5596: Wouldn't the x10 gravity actually pull the gases down to the ground?

    But it's not like Toei or Toriyama were thinking of this anyway.

  • OH YEAH!!!

  • Side note. How does Vegeta and Nappa breathe outside their space pods when they destroy the Arlian planet?

  • @boondocks43: Filler.

  • GO BARDOCK!!!!

  • you have 5 minutes till the planet blows up *fights for 20 more episodes*

  • he says thats the last time i show any mercy and then he doesnt kill nail

  • 1) That wasn't a lie, just a miscalculation.

    2) Just because it's 7 episodes, that doesn't mean 7 episodes worth of time has actually passed. I thought that was common knowledge with any series.

    3) The movies aren't canon, so Bardock breathing in space has no relevance.

  • @Ofaliss1 yea but remember in the 1st episode Gokus father was in space talking to frieza (i think if i remember correctly)

  • @Ofaliss1

    That movie IS canon.

  • Well, here's the thing, a lot of animes take place in shorter or longer time periods than they really do. While it was a lie by general standards that the earth would blow up in five minutes, they probably drew it out to tell the story, so five minutes their time took about seven episodes our time. The Dragon Ball franchise is notorious for doing this.

  • Maybe Bardock never left the planet's atmosphere?

  • Thats obviously just in the upper layers of the planets atmosphere

  • Breathing in space is probably something that can be learned, just like some Saiyans can control themselves in Oozaru form and some can't.

    Also, DBKai which ofcourse wasn't out when thos vid was made, states that Freeza doesn't breath in space, more like making an invisible air bubble, and when near death slowing his vital signs to survive in the vacuum because he was near death.

  • Nothing better than watching DBZ in Japanese while Bardock kills Frieza

  • The first one wasn't really a lie if he shot out too much of his power he would have blew himself up as well with the explosion.

  • maybe bardock wasn't actually in space but way up in the atmosphere

  • no point yelling in space sound waves need a medium to travel through so none of it would be heard anyway :P

  • i undurstand wht ur saying but goku was growing up on eath his father did not

  • I wouldn't call these lies. Just Frieza's arrogance getting the better of him and he overassumed the result

  • In case anyone doesn't know, lie 3 is invalid.

    If you watch friezas death ball hit planet vegeta you can see bardock was at the end of the atmosphere in planet vegeta allowing him to breath.

    Vegeta and nappa getting out of there ships to blow up that planet is filler, Meaning that it is non cannon.

    Saiyans and humans are nearly the same.

    Saiyans have lungs like people so they have to breath.

  • lie 1: 5 mins

    lie 2: its possible to breathe in space

    lie 3:saiyans cant surive in space

  • Frieza's father was a brilliant scientist, but an average fighter.

  • @lifes40123 hahaha that was so classic!

  • regarding #3, the saiyans that were in space still had their tails but goku's was removed

    i'm not saying tails allow saiyans to breathe in space but it's a possible theory as frieza would have noticed goku has no tail for a saiyan and he should have remembered that the saiyans he faught before could breathe in space

  • My take on lie #3 is that there's one of three possiblities:

    1) Saiyans can breath in space, but only for a limited amout of time, which was what Freeza was really getting at.

    2) Breathing in space is an ability learned, like flight, the former of which was something that Goku hadn't learned or,

    3) Saiyans can breath in space every bit as much as Freeza's people can, something Freeza knew Goku didn't know, his lie being nothing more than a feeble bluff

  • Vegeta's and Nappa are shown in the Saiyan arc to be able to breathe in space when they blew up a planet before heading to Earth.

  • How do you know gokus father was breatheing in space, maby he was holding it in, and also you gott use suspension of disbelief in this case

  • @SeanTehSheep

    Dude he talks...

  • @yamisupersaiyan Thats funny bro i can talk without breatheing you try it.

  • @yamisupersaiyan Couldn't they still have been in the atmossphere? Even Saiyans can't survive space, but nearly zero oxygen I bet. Only a theory, no offense to you. I wouldn't have noticed the thing with "breathing" in space.

  • @Kowsky2805 Actually... if you search "Vegeta searches for Goku in space" there's like 3 clips of Vegeta searching outer space for Goku without any form of spaceship and he searches dead planets as well which seem to have little, if any, trees and plants.

  • @thegrayangel95 Okay, I agree. But well... it's an Anime, so it's allowed to breathe in space, huh?^^

  • @yamisupersaiyan Maybe he is still on Vegeta's Atmosphere

  • @yamisupersaiyan some people speculate that he was close enough to Vegeta's atmosphere to have some air

  • @yamisupersaiyan Bardock wasn't in Space. He was still in the Planet's atmosphere. Like how they fought against the giant Brain in Earth's atmosphere, in the 2nd Dbz movie "World's Strongest"

  • @yamisupersaiyan it should be noted that at many times vegeta is also shown breathing in space or in a liquid, but goku on the other hand at always holds his breath, so i have to assume that its a learned skill, and not something they are born with the ability to do

  • @yamisupersaiyan

    that was probably in the highest part of the Planet's atmosphere, just barely breathable but enough for Bardock to last up there an hour or so. And it was so high up it looked like space...

  • @yamisupersaiyan wasn't in space just high in the atmosphere of the planet.

  • @SeanTehSheep How can you hold your breath and at the same time yell out FRIEZAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!? 

  • @SeanTehSheep Hes a super saiyan hes not like any human, i can say FRIEZAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­, just think of it like this some people can stay under water for 3min+ without breatheing, so why not in space when your a super saiyan

  • @SeanTehSheep and vegeta and nappa have done the same thing

  • @SeanTehSheep If you can't breath in space, your body will explode in space

  • @sharkie235 i cant breath in water and i dont explode, bardock is a saiyan it comes with its advantages, people can be under water without breathing for 4 min+, saiyans could do this for about 10min.

  • @SeanTehSheep Being under water is different when you're in space it becomes a vacuum causing air inside your body to expand

  • @sharkie235 Bardock has robotic lungs

  • Yeah you can't talk in space. No medium for sound to travel.

  • @Ayatron34  FUCK OFF

  • @SeanTehSheep

    Why you butthurt?

  • @Ayatron34 Yeah

  • @SeanTehSheep Wouldn't it be more logical to think that Saiyajins have some sort of force field or that they're not in space but near it (Planets have atmospheres, you know)

  • @kztar621 that could be true becaues they hold so much energy

  • @SeanTehSheep Dumbass

  • maybe surviving in space is a learned ability like handling ki or flight. 

  • goku cant breathe in space retard we all know bardock can some people can do tht

  • In DBZ time 5 minutes equals several hours...

  • You know what's even funnier. Frieza couldn't blow up planet namek in his final form. But he can destroy planet vegeta in his first form with one finger!?

  • Longest..... 5 minutes......... Ever

  • Was Queen Latifah voicing Freeza here?

  • the first lie right off the bat is using Cell's theme music for Frieza...

  • Actually 1 and 2 aren't really lies. they just turned out to be not true. If he would have used his full power it would have destroyed namek and goku. The biggest lie here is the 5 minutes...it only took like 2 hours to actually blow up the planet

  • nappa vegeta and bardock were in the atmosphere

  • tbh i only spotted one lie, frieza said "darn i held back to much power" this implys he wanted to out right blow up the planet, however later he takes this back by stating it was his intention to have iit blow up after a few minutes

  • If there is no air in space there is no sound in it as well ;p

    

  • As great as an anime Dragon Ball is (Z, Kai, GT and all [maybe not GT <_<]) it has to be one of the most flawed in regards to story unfortunately.

  • The whole can Saiyans breathe in space has been debated since1989. This just an odd mistake that pops up as Toei doesn't use logic.

    If Bardock was in space then all the other aliens could breathe too? What about Frieza's blast towards Bardock that caused a meteor like entry effect? That wouldn't have happened if they were all in space above the planet.

    It's like the Moon that blew up twice and that Goku traveled to without going ape, it all makes no real sense cause it's Dragonball.

  • @xTheDynastQueenx If you watch the Dragonball series carefully there actually is no contradiction regarding the moon. After Goku comes back from training at Kami's lookout he mentions that the moon was restored (after being blown up by Master Roshi) in exchange for his tail being removed. Look up moon on dragonball wiki to see for yourself.

  • @herschman321: I was not referring to the fact that the moon blew up in DB first but the fact that Goku did not transform when he traveled to it and that both times it blew up it had no negative effects on the Earth. The series doesn't always follow logic, whether it be it's own or scientific, that's all I was saying.

  • Wow, I can't believe I guessed right...

  • maybe he went the explosion would kill goku

  • We can only jump into the conclusion that Super Sayans need oxigen, normal Sayans don't ;D

  • I like how there was (obviously) new animation at 0:50. They should have just re-animated the series.

  • @iAMVyt

    Dude none of this is from kai.....

  • @yamisupersaiyan Lolol. I got confused about which video I was on. I had a bunch up at once. :( Fail.

  • @yamisupersaiyan

    fuck kai...

  • @Cyfer135

    Kai is better than Z

  • @yamisupersaiyan wow.. how does it feel?

  • @yamisupersaiyan kai sucks z origanl owns kai

  • @144440000

    Nope, Kai has a better dub, curses, shows more blood, the voices are more experienced, all that annoying bad filler is cut. I don't see where you're coming from? A lot of people like Z more JUST because of nostalgia

  • @yamisupersaiyan And for saying that I hate you.

  • @grufeetywy

    Why?, Kai has a better dub, curses, shows more blood, the voices are more experienced, all that annoying bad filler is cut. I don't see where you're coming from? A lot of people like Z more JUST because of nostalgia

  • @yamisupersaiyan Kai has less of the original voices it replaces a lot of the blood with sweat and the filler is cool because it makes the characters more interesting and less of a one-dimensional bore.

  • @grufeetywy

    *sigh* let me guess, you watch Kai on TV? Why does everyone think the Kai on TV IS KAI. The Kai on TV is heavily edited. Like 4kids One Piece was. It has less of the original voices....how is that a bad thing? Frieza sounds a lot better. Gohan takes some getting used to but I think he sounds better too. So no theres MORE blood. What? filler doesn't do that. How is screaming adding character development? Fake Namek Saga, Garlic Junior, Goku and PIccolo driving was all lame

  • @yamisupersaiyan Not screaming extra episodes moatly show the day-to-day activities of the characters which shows you why they become the way they they are and just funny and all around humorous situations and the dragonball on tv will ALWAYS be the one they associate with dragonball because thats the on thats out there. Not having the original voices is just aggitating and uncomfortable plus some of the older funnier lines get cut and the whole show loses some of its feeling.

  • @yamisupersaiyan All of that added on top of the fact that older viewers watch it because theyre long time fans and want to relive a small protion of their childhood while watching a classic anime with their children are alienated by the cuts and re-dubbing. Whole sagas that were cut were actually kind of interesting to watch because theyre just fun to watch. I f you just want to watch the minimal amount of sagas and character progression then youre not really a fan and its harder to spot

  • @grufeetywy

    Honestly I have no idea what you wrote half the time. Kai is better, whats holding you back IS NOSTALGIA. Nostalgia is a real bitchy thing

  • @yamisupersaiyan Not so much as opinion and I just enjoyed thecartoon as a whole. now get off your Kai loving ass and shut the fuck up.

  • @grufeetywy

    Stop raping your 10 year old DBZ shitty dubbed cassette tapes and realize that Kai is how Toriyama fucking wrote the story. You're the one who needs to be quiet and learn from people who actually know their stuff

  • @yamisupersaiyan Hey Jack ass Ive read the comics and spot the differences between shows and series as I watch. Btw IM ONLY 14!!! I DONT EVEN HAVE CASSETTES!!!! Ive been reading and watching this shit as long as I can remember

  • @grufeetywy

    You read the COMICS? Wow wrong word smartass. MANGA. You obviously cant spot the differences if you don't see that Kai is better

  • @yamisupersaiyan I know theyre call manga I call them comics because Ive bought them in the classic monthly comic format. Btw kai sucks and youre a troll Im not gonna respond to you anymore :P

  • @yamisupersaiyan inconsistencies and little charcater "in-jokes" and humorous scenes that are in the story even if you skipped the saga it started in. Btw Krillin's daughter marron is named after his girlfriend from the start of the garlic jr. saga.

  • @yamisupersaiyan P.S. If all you want is a bloody fight scene with curses and you don't care about a poorly written minimal story with one-dimensional character That have wrong sounding voices then please go watch the Mortla Kombat films.

  • @yamisupersaiyan bullshit!!!

  • @umbrablade How so?