While I strongly oppose SOPA, I prefer hard copies of movies, games, etc, just because hard drives tend to fail much easier. Take note entertainment industry.
Centralized monopolies (including government) are holding us back as a species. We can no longer afford to let a minority control the world. Ideas and information has to be open and free-flowing. Juno... if the giant media moguls went belly-up tomorrow do you think you'd be out of work as a post production guy? I'm proposing no, and that we'd figure out how to more precisely reward the artists & technicians who entertain and enlighten us without elitist middlemen taxing our idea transactions.
I think too it was a way for congress to get money from internet companies, because if they have a steak in the current politicians they are less inclined to say stuff about them.
They are trying to fix a real problem, unfortunately this is not the way to do it. Having a rule that police immediately machine gun everyone in the bank once an alarm is triggered probably kills a lot of bank robbers. It works. But it also kills bank customers, tellers and bank employees. Not a good solution to bank robbery. That is like SOPA, shoot everything that moves.
You know the problem with Hollywood? They make shit. Unbelievable, unremarkable shit. But still insist that we the people pay egregious sums of money and accept facisistic regulatory legislation that goes with it. Now I'm not some YT Troll searching for existentialism through a purple haze of pwnage olympics, no its easy to pontificate about this wont work or that wont work, what i'm talking about is reality. Reality, a term over used but singularly maligned by morrons many of corporations....
Still not getting the ultra wide band HD dimensions of decisions. The Point of SOPA is to crush the little guy. Period. Just like the monopolies in realestate, finance and agriculture. Reality isn't part of Modern American Century, now take Mario Savio's Operation fo the Machine speach, if the guy really had the balls, really wanted to make things change, then the operation of the machine would have stopped, simple Meet our demands or your SUV goes no where, how many....
Pissed of Bipartisan Terrorists maligned in society would it take to get the system to change? This is the tricky part, what if Savio had gone all Joe Stalin? What if he had driven his carreer all the way to the Presidency, would Hollywood then back down and stick with charging $5 to see Avatar or push $30?
Remember that was the 1960's theres no CNBC, CNN, MSN theres no Internet. Its only a matter of time before some "Pirate" stands up and acts out democracy = Mob Rule.
I'll go off on a little rant about software piracy. Right now there is no consequence to pirating games (for example), therefore pirates try new games all the time, at a much much higher rate than other users.
Companies use dubious math to calculate x number of illegal downloads multiplied by the price and claim huge losses to piracy.
In fact if piracy was impossible, the most they can hope for is that pirates will consume at the same rate as others thus the actual "losses" are far smaller.
@NikiDaDude On top of that this scenario ignores the fact that pirates also buy games.
A simple google search will find you studies that show that pirates buy even more than regular users. Pirates are exposed to more products they wouldn't have the chance to try otherwise. But even if we ignore that look at a real life success - Steam, Valve sell a ton of games in Russia, a market everyone else thought impossible to sell to.
If sharing files is "piracy" then these are the gentlest pirates I've ever heard of. Instead of hunting and invading a ship and stealing precious paintings for a black market, these pirates usually find paintings laying around, take pictures of them and show them to their friends. How aweful.
I like your point about how the people who are pushing this legislation through are probably not the tech savvy types. It makes sense.
I picture a bunch of crotchety old men still using pagers and 1980's brick cell-phones sitting in a boardroom, smoking cigars and damning the demon internet back down to the pits of hell from whence it came.
I once met a nice good ol boy who said he wasnt going to post his songs on you tube because he didnt want people to steal them. I forget his name. nice guy though.
They are also assuming that every pirate download is a lost sale. I bet there is a lot of people that download stuff that wouldn't buy the DVD because of cost issues etc.
What they need to do is accept the problem and adapt. Offer a cheap, fast and reliable service over the internet to compete with the pirates. Play up the fact that you won't be getting any viruses and install any dubious software onto your computer.
for us here in europe a lot of the small town bands from swedian and others around use piratebay as there main distributor with no cost to the downloader , they make their money from concerts and other things but allow their songs to be freely distrubuted , if sopa is passed they won't and neither will anyone have the ability to share their own music which they make , instead of protecting copyright it will strip peoples right to choose which type of copyright they want for their media
They want to get back to the "good old days' when they had the monopoly on mass entertainment.They used to own the three major TV networks, and such concentration is very lucrative. Pulling down all websites with user created content would basically eliminate user created content, and this will mean that the big studios will have their monopoly again.
While I strongly oppose SOPA, I prefer hard copies of movies, games, etc, just because hard drives tend to fail much easier. Take note entertainment industry.
Justinfh2point0 1 month ago
Centralized monopolies (including government) are holding us back as a species. We can no longer afford to let a minority control the world. Ideas and information has to be open and free-flowing. Juno... if the giant media moguls went belly-up tomorrow do you think you'd be out of work as a post production guy? I'm proposing no, and that we'd figure out how to more precisely reward the artists & technicians who entertain and enlighten us without elitist middlemen taxing our idea transactions.
betacorpse 1 month ago
I think too it was a way for congress to get money from internet companies, because if they have a steak in the current politicians they are less inclined to say stuff about them.
MistressArte 1 month ago
WB juno
warlord2080 1 month ago
china doesn't abide by shit. they steal everything not nailed down including some shit that is.
bhank21 1 month ago
Damn son, try some ointment on that, maybe a little tussin. haha
wtf is wrong with people
krapptacular 1 month ago
i bleed lots when i take shits.
im10pplok 1 month ago
They are trying to fix a real problem, unfortunately this is not the way to do it. Having a rule that police immediately machine gun everyone in the bank once an alarm is triggered probably kills a lot of bank robbers. It works. But it also kills bank customers, tellers and bank employees. Not a good solution to bank robbery. That is like SOPA, shoot everything that moves.
sarabellumm 1 month ago
Tarantino J.R. still wearing the glasses and the hat.
8w9hf89hw 1 month ago
The internet it's a series of tubes, which big media can't block. Who hasn't watched or down loaded a movie online without paying for the it?
REBMike1 1 month ago
You know the problem with Hollywood? They make shit. Unbelievable, unremarkable shit. But still insist that we the people pay egregious sums of money and accept facisistic regulatory legislation that goes with it. Now I'm not some YT Troll searching for existentialism through a purple haze of pwnage olympics, no its easy to pontificate about this wont work or that wont work, what i'm talking about is reality. Reality, a term over used but singularly maligned by morrons many of corporations....
DARTHMOBIUS 1 month ago
@DARTHMOBIUS Part 2,
Still not getting the ultra wide band HD dimensions of decisions. The Point of SOPA is to crush the little guy. Period. Just like the monopolies in realestate, finance and agriculture. Reality isn't part of Modern American Century, now take Mario Savio's Operation fo the Machine speach, if the guy really had the balls, really wanted to make things change, then the operation of the machine would have stopped, simple Meet our demands or your SUV goes no where, how many....
DARTHMOBIUS 1 month ago
@DARTHMOBIUS Part 3
Pissed of Bipartisan Terrorists maligned in society would it take to get the system to change? This is the tricky part, what if Savio had gone all Joe Stalin? What if he had driven his carreer all the way to the Presidency, would Hollywood then back down and stick with charging $5 to see Avatar or push $30?
Remember that was the 1960's theres no CNBC, CNN, MSN theres no Internet. Its only a matter of time before some "Pirate" stands up and acts out democracy = Mob Rule.
DARTHMOBIUS 1 month ago
Well fucking said and nice seeing you on here again
HayesHead 1 month ago
I'll go off on a little rant about software piracy. Right now there is no consequence to pirating games (for example), therefore pirates try new games all the time, at a much much higher rate than other users.
Companies use dubious math to calculate x number of illegal downloads multiplied by the price and claim huge losses to piracy.
In fact if piracy was impossible, the most they can hope for is that pirates will consume at the same rate as others thus the actual "losses" are far smaller.
NikiDaDude 1 month ago
@NikiDaDude On top of that this scenario ignores the fact that pirates also buy games.
A simple google search will find you studies that show that pirates buy even more than regular users. Pirates are exposed to more products they wouldn't have the chance to try otherwise. But even if we ignore that look at a real life success - Steam, Valve sell a ton of games in Russia, a market everyone else thought impossible to sell to.
NikiDaDude 1 month ago
If sharing files is "piracy" then these are the gentlest pirates I've ever heard of. Instead of hunting and invading a ship and stealing precious paintings for a black market, these pirates usually find paintings laying around, take pictures of them and show them to their friends. How aweful.
AnotherMasterMind 1 month ago
I like your point about how the people who are pushing this legislation through are probably not the tech savvy types. It makes sense.
I picture a bunch of crotchety old men still using pagers and 1980's brick cell-phones sitting in a boardroom, smoking cigars and damning the demon internet back down to the pits of hell from whence it came.
epshot 1 month ago
I once met a nice good ol boy who said he wasnt going to post his songs on you tube because he didnt want people to steal them. I forget his name. nice guy though.
Slapnuts6931 1 month ago
Fuck SOPA and PIPA they would ruin the free exchange of ideas that is the internet.
615Deathdealer 1 month ago
They are also assuming that every pirate download is a lost sale. I bet there is a lot of people that download stuff that wouldn't buy the DVD because of cost issues etc.
What they need to do is accept the problem and adapt. Offer a cheap, fast and reliable service over the internet to compete with the pirates. Play up the fact that you won't be getting any viruses and install any dubious software onto your computer.
StanMarsh1 1 month ago
It pisses me off that a third rate countries shitty laws are shoved into my face and attempt to threaten the entire internet.
messianicrogue 1 month ago
I got nailed on a MGM bait file. I had a DMCA in my hand in less than 3 days.
IzzySpeaks 1 month ago
The Pirate Bay made a "press release" yesterday talking about SOPA. One thing it said was:
"SOPA can't do anything to stop TPB. Worst case we'll change top level domain from our current .org to one of the
hundreds of other names that we already also use. In countries where TPB is blocked, China and Saudi Arabia springs to
mind, they block hundreds of our domain names. And did it work? Not really."
onpon4 1 month ago
These laws are the DMCA on steroids.
Homer177 1 month ago 2
@Homer177 DMCA on steroids would be a major understatement
WeaponXSigma 1 month ago
for us here in europe a lot of the small town bands from swedian and others around use piratebay as there main distributor with no cost to the downloader , they make their money from concerts and other things but allow their songs to be freely distrubuted , if sopa is passed they won't and neither will anyone have the ability to share their own music which they make , instead of protecting copyright it will strip peoples right to choose which type of copyright they want for their media
jmm1233 1 month ago 7
@jmm1233 And that is the entire point. That is what hollyweird wants.
bamboo4tameshigiri 1 month ago
@jmm1233 great point, i find most of my music on youtube which i go out to buy/see the said bands
dunndudebemelol 1 month ago
why do you have sunglasses on inside :3? "btw i agree with you"
victorolsen1 1 month ago
@victorolsen1 Well if you follow one of his videos he tells you why he has sunglasses on.
warlord2080 1 month ago
They want to get back to the "good old days' when they had the monopoly on mass entertainment.They used to own the three major TV networks, and such concentration is very lucrative. Pulling down all websites with user created content would basically eliminate user created content, and this will mean that the big studios will have their monopoly again.
It won't work, but they are going to try.
dangerouslytalented 1 month ago 5