@GreatImperium I think he made two salient points throughout this clip ...he may have won some battles here but charisma wasn't going to be one of them.
Ha Ha I laughed so hard at @hugoegbert79. Though I don't usually agree with Mr. Hitchens, I do like his style, his opinionated personality (like me) and his entertaining persona. He has made debating cool.
@Reqrezentin A few years before this, Hitchens was called a liberal by a woman calling in to the show. His response was: "You insult me more than you intend madam, by calling me a liberal. I'd said earlier I was a socialist-you can't have been listening. We regard liberals as dangerous compromises where i come from."
@hugoegbert79 This neocon cunt Hitchens has never been a socialist in his entire worthless preening life. He's an airhead fool with an accent he stole from a BBC costume drama, and yanks listen to this moron and worship the shit that falls out of his neocon asshole.
I don't see why people make a big deal about Hitchens assumed change of positions. As Mr Keynes famously said "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir? Ideas shape the course of history."
On the contrary, the facts were precisely the same. Same monstrous dictator, Saddam, in charge, same human rights violations, same program of oppression against the Kurds, same political dynasty in power in America, Bush.
Where is Hitchen's current defense of regime change in Iraq.
I am astounded at Hitchen's polar attitude towards Iraq in this discussion:
International conference on Middle East policy (Hitch, 1990) Vs Invasion/Regime change (Hitch, >2001).
@keereekee The Bush 41 administration never attempted or even considered regime change and Bush 43 ran against it while Gore was running on it, Clinton just having passed the Iraqi liberation act at the urging of people like Hitchens. Hitchens to the best of my knowledge has never said a kind word about any dictatorship, and has never done more than acknowledged that occasionally America will do the right thing, even if for the wrong reasons and in the wrong way.
@finchy633 |Yes but Hitchens changed while the facts did not, which he admitted somewhat, somewhere where he admitted he should have supported Bush 41
"And it has a leader — Saddam Hussain — who has sprung from being an underground revolutionary gunman to perhaps the first visionary Arab statesman since Nasser."
Osama Bin Ladem attacked the US because of the US Federal State occupying the Arabian Peninsula and funding Israel, not because of jihadism/islamism.
Wow! Hitchens has certainly changed his colors. I'm impressed though by how successful Morton was in standing up to him back then when Hitchen's was a communist and Islam apologist.
That other guy is such a loser. All he does is call Hitchens names and put words in his mouth.
GreatImperium 1 month ago
@GreatImperium I think he made two salient points throughout this clip ...he may have won some battles here but charisma wasn't going to be one of them.
temporaldisplacement 4 weeks ago
Ha Ha I laughed so hard at @hugoegbert79. Though I don't usually agree with Mr. Hitchens, I do like his style, his opinionated personality (like me) and his entertaining persona. He has made debating cool.
tmcgrenere 3 months ago
HUTCHENS!!!!!
TheLockon00 4 months ago
Ehhh??? is this an imaginairy hitchens? did he turn a 180 degrees the last 10 years.
diadorim1234 5 months ago
Bit unfair to accuse Mr. Hutchens of ducking the question, seeing as no one invited him on to the programme.
PurushaDesa 10 months ago
Hitchens looks like a liberal in this.
Reqrezentin 1 year ago
@Reqrezentin A few years before this, Hitchens was called a liberal by a woman calling in to the show. His response was: "You insult me more than you intend madam, by calling me a liberal. I'd said earlier I was a socialist-you can't have been listening. We regard liberals as dangerous compromises where i come from."
hugoegbert79 10 months ago
@hugoegbert79 This neocon cunt Hitchens has never been a socialist in his entire worthless preening life. He's an airhead fool with an accent he stole from a BBC costume drama, and yanks listen to this moron and worship the shit that falls out of his neocon asshole.
MoscowMaestro 5 months ago
I don't see why people make a big deal about Hitchens assumed change of positions. As Mr Keynes famously said "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir? Ideas shape the course of history."
finchy633 1 year ago 3
@finchy633
On the contrary, the facts were precisely the same. Same monstrous dictator, Saddam, in charge, same human rights violations, same program of oppression against the Kurds, same political dynasty in power in America, Bush.
Where is Hitchen's current defense of regime change in Iraq.
I am astounded at Hitchen's polar attitude towards Iraq in this discussion:
International conference on Middle East policy (Hitch, 1990) Vs Invasion/Regime change (Hitch, >2001).
keereekee 9 months ago
@keereekee The Bush 41 administration never attempted or even considered regime change and Bush 43 ran against it while Gore was running on it, Clinton just having passed the Iraqi liberation act at the urging of people like Hitchens. Hitchens to the best of my knowledge has never said a kind word about any dictatorship, and has never done more than acknowledged that occasionally America will do the right thing, even if for the wrong reasons and in the wrong way.
GiulianoTaverna89 5 months ago
@finchy633 |Yes but Hitchens changed while the facts did not, which he admitted somewhat, somewhere where he admitted he should have supported Bush 41
jimmbo13 1 month ago
This is brutal! (And Hitchens was right).
hugoegbert79 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Hitchens is such a fool.
Hitchens, 1976:
"And it has a leader — Saddam Hussain — who has sprung from being an underground revolutionary gunman to perhaps the first visionary Arab statesman since Nasser."
Osama Bin Ladem attacked the US because of the US Federal State occupying the Arabian Peninsula and funding Israel, not because of jihadism/islamism.
qwertypoiu4321 1 year ago
Wow! Hitchens has certainly changed his colors. I'm impressed though by how successful Morton was in standing up to him back then when Hitchen's was a communist and Islam apologist.
HAZIDEAD 1 year ago
Wow, what a difference a decade makes. Everything they said has been reversed.
bigfoot799 1 year ago
Brian Lamb is brilliant, he just lets them go back and forth at each other. So many hosts/moderators chip in and interrupt.
Classicintercourse 1 year ago
@Classicintercourse
Agreed.
MrElectroGizmo 1 year ago
this guy was wrong
Gamble2185 1 year ago