Health reform: dead or alive?

[LoveToday8]

LOVED this video!

[postchevelle]

This bullshit is beyond life support. Americans are finally pushing back, and it is such a beautiful thing to see in this country.

[thisoldhate]

it will only not happen, if we let it not happen.

[gnoam9]

Never going to happen.

[fywacia]

I predict real healthcare reform in America which won't be called America by then by no earlier than 2060. We would be much better off now with a geographic pole shift or a nuclear war to solve our problems. America is dead and still walking, and it won't be long now before it collapses entirely.

[jmartecep]

Sad but so true.

[fywacia]

Yes it is. I've often thought about how great this country could be and wonderful it would be to share a sense of community with everyone in it. But sadly that won't happen because the liars at the top of monetary ladder keep us all split up according to what flavor of propaganda we can stomach while they profit from our misery, disillusionment, and big brother organized confusion that keeps us from seeing collectively the level of exploitation that they put us through for profit.

[KalachakraandOBeast]

Obama's the Antichrist scandal blowing. Lots of birth-issue videos !

"Birthers on the Hill" video's # 1, 3, 15 in U Tube categories.

150 000 views in 48 hours and is now listed with *125* other similar videos !!!

Other birth issue videos: my favs # 2 "Eileen-Mike Castle" video, has 750 000 views.

My favs # 3 "Eileen, Lady in Red" says Obama is the Antichrist.

Fav # 1 The Marks of the Beast of Antichrist Obama.

[jmartecep]

wow :(

[SakyaNgor]

now the antichrist obama story is going viral

check out my page for the Marks of the Beast

[badmuffy]

We would have the public option if not for so many congressman taking bribes, and Obama has noone else to blame he should have done a radical campaign finance reform first.

[bigrodneyakatrey]

is it really just like section 8 vs socialist healthcare,

subsidizing health insurance companys and the health care system, or just the healthcare system.

????????????????????

[zoxovox]

Well, Obama nice seeing you but Hillary 2012 running on a Single Payer healthcare promise would get my vote over you in a second. Heck if I REALLY was convinced that a Republican would keep a promise of Single Payer, vowing to commit suicide live on camera if they couldn't pass it, I would vote for them in two seconds.

[Unkn0wnGuy]

So where is Obama going to get the money? This is a pipe dream folks, and if it passes, I would watch the value of the US dollar crash and burn because I doubt China is interested in financing this debacle.

[womblefree]

It appears that Obama is just the figure head that the US public hoped in was all rhetoric.

It makes total sense that the public own the national health service but this has gone bye bye.

His meet the press gave some hope that he was going to push through reform so either the lion is toothless or he lied or misdirected the public which makes him no better than the Bush regime.

I dont understand americans fear of public ownership since its more civilised and works out cheaper over the long term

[spiritsA]

He is speaking exactly what's on my mind. Good judgement.

[drmondman1]

Economy comes from Community.

[asperin]

Even on a state level there would be problems solving this Statist HealthCare thing.

The more politicians can stay away from people's businesses, the better.

They need to let the competition and regulation begin between people who make a living in the Health business and its customers, they need to resist the temptation of taxing people to make their mansions bigger.

[SandCmpbll]

well, they are in your business. We elect them to take care of the people's business. They take money from corporations who pay them LOADS of money to take of THEIR business. Forget competition, get the insurance companies out. Goggle Wendall Potter and see the game of the insurance companies. They are liars.

[asperin]

Politicians don't need to be elected to take care of anyone's business.

Who are they to tell me what to do with my money?

Everything "public" is shity. Look around.

Competition in the market is good for lowering prices and bettering a product/service. There is an incentive for profit unlike the public services.

[XAMAJANI]

what you claim is a dogma that is false, the U.S. health care system is inefficient and excessively beauracratic because it is PRIVATIZED. The very profit motive causes money to be put ahead of people. causing it to be MORE expensive than any other developed country. and just 90 miles south of you the worlds best health care system is in Cuba. there is no rule that says public is better than private or vice versa, we should be pragmatic, not ideological.

[asperin]

You and I work for profit, profit is good us. With it you can help people. Fuck the greedy, they would be toppled by the competition in a free market.

Cuba got good health service? What about individual liberties, freedom of speech and press/information?

Come on dude, don't use the Cuban example.

The free market is pragmatic, the State is ideological, a coercive monopoly, sustained by the belief of the brainwashed majority.

[XAMAJANI]

O.K. let us start with facts, fact#1 in the U.S. over 40 million americans have no health care coverage whatsoever, fact#2 the remaining health care is ridiculously expensive and inefficient. fact #3 In cuba, the state deals with all health care yet it is better than it is in the US, the situation with individual liberties was NOT THE ARGUMENT AND IS BESIDES THE POINT the point is that private doesn't mean better. you can check Canada, or Australia who also have better health care systems. .

[asperin]

But what if I don't want to pay your healthcare system?

A State after they "confiscate", or rob, some of my money/property and they will send their police thugs to arrest me and kill me if I resist.

You and your god, the State, are fascists.

[XAMAJANI]

Please, you are being very ideologically biased, the point is not to say that we should all convert to communism, the point is that private enterprise and free market don't always work, there is irrefutable evidence to prove this, the economic collapses in Argentina and Mexico in the 1990's even worse was in Russia were enterprises were privatized overnight and poverty gripped the entire nation. Singapore has over 80% of their housing provided by the state, does that make them fascist?nonsense

[asperin]

Who privatized the enterprises?

The State did, not to promote a free market but to have their friends and families in charge of certain capital and break a little piece for them.

The State allows monopolies to form.

Perfect example: without the State the banks would have not been saved, people would go bankrupt when they do it wrong, and they should go bankrupt because they either are corrupted or their system is flawed.

[XAMAJANI]

O.K. it is obvious that you are someone that is too deeply ingrained into right wing neo-liberal ideology to even admit a simple point. which is that the free market system IS FLAWED, but apparently this is inconceivable to you. But anyway, the amount of human suffering that regular people who are not responsible for the crisis would go through if the state did nothing, that is not an option. It is the banks that were irresponsible, and you are saying that people should suffer for it? forget it

[womblefree]

You do understand cuba has a US enforced embargo on it dont you so most of their money comes from tourists, i bet if that ebargo were to be lifted cuba would flourish

[asperin]

Cuba has an embargo, and a dictatorship and the people didn't do a fucking shit about it.

Communism did its magic, it turned Cubans into lazy conformists.

[womblefree]

I've seen your channel and your an idiot including your cabal, look whos laughing now.

Cuba is only a dictatorship because it has been under constant threat since the 60s and had to turn to the USSR so it became communist.

If you want to look at who's lazy you just have to look in the mirror while the Cubans were fighting for their existence during the 60s and 70s

[asperin]

Viva la ad hominem attack !

Where are Cubans now? Drinking rum, smoking cancer sticks.

Or maybe in Miami talking shit about Fidel.

[womblefree]

LOL you sound jealous

[FaaarLeft]

No No No, this is a good time to be a Leninist.

[fostereric]

Sieg Heil mein Fuhrer Obama!

[badmuffy]

I dont care if he has to declare martial law Obama better give us a public option. If not I will not vote for him again. Next time hopefully Howard Dean or Bernard Sanders will run and I will vote for either of them over Obama. I will never vote for a republican or a moderate democrat again after how they f*cked over the American people with this.

[bluenote71]

Keep in mind that it's not just up to him. congress plays a huge role, and so do you and I; we should be writing and calling our congressmen.

[ferrozm]

shows how much progressives want a nanny state. They prefer martial law with govt health care than freedom and the constitution. eat shit

[jperryam]

This video is a MUST see and a MUST share. Ford tears into Obama's healthcare "reform" with the unvarnished truth, proving that in Washington we have ONE party, under corporatism, with empty lip service and emotionally charged propaganda for all.

The first thing we need to do is FORGET the worthless political arguments. This is exactly what the ONE party establishment wants us to consume ourselves with, to keep us from doing the honest homework and learning the truth.

WAKE UP, PEOPLE!

[McWalker25]

you are the kind of conspiratist that give conspiracy a bad name.

Had we NOT fought Obama's nazi health reform, nor if we do not continue to oppose this "private interest dictating whether they should use the $ to save a life or let a life die" reform,

then America will set itself up for utter doom.

The truth is, the talk of corporatism is whats a great distraction, wasting the time for what needed efforts must actually arise.

History is much more then a controlled chess game, my friend

[jperryam]

I AM fighting Obama's health "reform." My point is simply that all the partisan arguments are a sham. Inside the Beltway they're all effectively on the same side, because they're just fighting amongst themeselves to gain the favor of their corporate paymasters. Either way, the people get screwed. If you can't see that, you're not really looking.

[womblefree]

I get it and have understood this to be the truth for along time, just wonder why the american people elected him then if they knew he was almost likely to do the dirty on them?

[laurasIs2c]

Because anyone can be criticized for bad health care by the very nature of the fact that unhealthy people feel needy and their conditions are difficult means that complaints may be a part of the process no matter what, or who pays for the process.

That said, giving this man a chance to apply new ideas in any measure was and is far better than the massive elitist who sought to have power beyond the unique constitution of the US.

[SandCmpbll]

so, whats your health care reform plan

[chewbaca1989]

get government out.

[jperryam]

The same one Obama proclaimed himself a supporter of as a state senator in 2003, but now refuses to even consider: Single Payer. His "public option" is a sad joke that does nothing to chage the fundamental structure of the current for profit system. Forcing people to buy health insurance with no limits on premiums or deductibles is not how you reform heathcare. The majority of doctors and nurses support Single Payer because they know it's the ONLY choice for REAL reform. Google "PNHP."

[xxashyy]

I agree with the state by state issue with single payer. Will see which state gets bankrupt the fastest.

[taoofmichael]

It wont be Mississippi. Those crackers will resist single payer til the end. Even though they have one of the worst health care problems.

[xxashyy]

Shut the hell up racist prick.

[ferrozm]

agreed let stupid states bankrupt themselves

[whippoorwillss]

Listen up you folks have it all wrong. We are supposed to be a Republic not a Democracy. Yet, what you all seem to be blind to is this. We are, in practical application, fascist. And have been for about 80 years or so. Gov. & big business > You. So which out of the 3 do you prefur?

[Crickettedog]

@whippoorwillss: The capitalists bought your government and you let them have it. We live in a police state. We are living under fascism right now.

[allgoo19]

whippoorwillss: "supposed to be a Republic not a Democracy.."

What is a Republic, and how it should run compare to a Democracy?

[zoticus1]

" I want to sign A bill"

"A BILL"????!!!!!!!!! what about "the" bill?

Now you see if it was "Thee" bill they wrote then that's what you would call it. "A BILL" means that anything signed is fine by him.

Obama has disappointing me on this and everything else he said he would do which he has yet to fight for with some spine.

Alas I was no fool to believe in "change"when you can only chose pepsi of coke.

The only thing that separates America from having a dictatorship is ONE party!!!

[toyracers]

the fact is that single payer is not the only route... a competition based plan can work as effectively as a single insurance plan..

its true that it still might be more expensive than single payer but it something that is more in line with american ideals..

our schools are perfect example of what happens when Americans apply government programs without competition.. we end up letting them go to waste

[TenseAlcyoneus]

Exactly. Well said.

[Crickettedog]

@toyracers: Channel 1 broadcast in schools at on time. They had television in every room complete with commercials.Walmart wants a store in every community. Now they want to build a store on a Manassas Virginia civil war battlefield. Capitalism will eat you alive. Walmart's God is money.

[bbburton]

Just say no to any gov sponsored health care agenda. It's a rip off. Just look at what past gov interference in health care has done. It's nothing short of a disaster.

[Crickettedog]

bbburton: The politicians and their families have national health care and they love it,

[bbburton]

Yes, and criminals get three free meals a day, their own bed, and someone to tell them when to wipe their ass while in prison. And we pay for that, too. And I suppose you'd be happy going to prison for your three free meals a day and love having someone to tell you when to wipe your ass? I'd rather take care of myself.

[cduval1234]

They would need to cut the military budget if they ever wanted to see a real health care system.

[MankindCartoons]

Corporations really have your unhealthy nuts in a vice, USA.

-Canada

[TenseAlcyoneus]

US corporations are responsible for a disproportionate share of medical innovation, including most of the drugs your country buys on your behalf.

[NwZ2]

Because he's not a white protestant christian? Oh man, you xenophobes don't even know how funny you sound. You deny reality to fit your own warped delusions.

[Chestmuscles]

Doesn't have to set us back decades.

[666Qtip666]

a bankrupt government ensuring quality medical care to a bankrupt nation right it will be interesting to see how that works. it makes me laugh every time i think about.

[NwZ2]

Glad to see that trying to help those who can't pay the outrageous health costs in teh country is a "joke" to you. Shows where your mind is at.

[666Qtip666]

well im not joking, i was merely expressing how idiotic you and your fellow socialists really are. YOU HAVE SHIT FOR BRAINS. and the sooner you all realize it the better off we all will be

[666Qtip666]

keep working so they can tax your money away so they can waste it. SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE'S GETTING FUCKED TO ME

[Realizalize]

search:

Will Health Care Be Obama's Legacy or Waterloo?

article on: "der spiegel"-online//it is in engl.

[1mealperday]

all i heard was

i want

i want

i want

those in charge may or may not give

if the president had REal power he would be saying WE WILL HAVE.

[sabiki74]

1mealperday- The wonderful thing about our gov't is that the president has and hopefully will always have 1/3 the power to make law. For those who hate fractions, that is about 33 percent.

Now you might have an argument if he just makes health care an executive order or something which is unconstitutional.

[stanjz]

President Obama's pressure is the reason we have a time table and are coming home from Iraq and closing Gitmo. President Obama is the reason we didn't attack Iran, because the neocons want to so badly they can hardly contain themselves. President Obama is the reason people's 401k's and retirements plans are salvaged because the Dow was in the 6,000+ range and going down, but it's over 9,000 now. The Fake News sounds exactly like Glen Beck, Hannity and Limbaugh. Try Media Matters .

[1mealperday]

dear stan

all my hopes were on Obama.I rooted for him with all my heart, only to be dissappointed.

his giving more power to the fed is what killed it for me. Close the Fed , until thats done WE have NO country. Taxation without representation is what we have now

[ferrozm]

the dow is only up nominally in terms of real value it is down tremendously because of Obama. There is a huge military base of over 50,000 "residual" troops in Iraq because of Obama. Our troops keep dying in a senseless war in Afghanistan because of Obama. People who torture won't be held accountable because of Obama. Tele comm. companies have immunity from wiretapping because of Obama. need i continue?

[kwillyou22]

a great number of things in that list were started by Bush so its not entirely his fault however i do agree with you Obama has hardly made the situation better

[NwZ2]

"because of Obama"

ignoring anyone else who is probably more responsible, if he is at all in the first place. You're a retard.

[jamesholder13]

I'm so infuriated right now. What exactly did I vote for? Change, now that's a joke.

[PersonalJesus348]

Lord help us

[nohealthcare62]

Malathion sprayed on me7yrs and whole of west tennessee google it West tenn Malathion paid for by the Federal Gov. Winniepg Malthion on YT ..I was dropped by BCBS of Tn after cancer because of my address