@pamuk7. Listen the prophet of Islam. Was illiterate it is basically impossible for him to have taken ideas from e.g. Egypt. The science in the Qur'an is not distorted if it was 1400 year old nonsense how is it so scientific. And answer this if evolution is true then where did the first living cell come about. From an unconscience mechanism, really come on even our daily lives we do not see such ridiculous occurences. It's like saying bill gates got rich by chance.
@kago500 The reason the Quran is so scientific to you is because when you say scientific you mean something different to what most people consider science. For every supposed scientific miracle claim you can present from the Quran there are hundreds of videos on this very website thoroughly debunking them. All it takes is a quick browse. Anyone with an internet connection can see the scientific miracles of the Quran are actually not that miraculous at all and most often simply wrong.
@kago500 he was illiterate not deaf ,he could not read/write he was not an idiot, or he would not b able to gather a group of loyal warriors and rule ( not all prophets ruled )Besides didnt he do commerce ?=he met ppl was not a homebound housewife,he was a man of the world
Besides would that mean that Pythagoras+others had also revelations by angels since noone taught them what they knew?-they discovered by THEMSELVES Also i do not understand what is the extra knowledge u claim he had
Yes brainless mother.nature created everything but me atheiest with all my brain can not compete with brainless.mother nature and create a fly, brainless mother nature didnt need to go to school nor sit maths exam yet defeats all you educated atheits who spend billions of tax payers dollars to come close..lol
What a retarded video response, im actually sitting with a university student who studies biology and shes laughing with me, the cell is very very complex in design that even scientist can not create one with all there intelegence yet atheists claim its the product of brainless mother nature, and yes it proves design and yes the cell when it comes across elements it does not need it stores and has defence to not allow in bad elements..now thats amazing and if thats not chance u agree its devine
@pamuk7 Just because you don't understand evolution doesn't mean you can go around converting people into your 1400 years old barbaric nonsense by distorting scientific facts to suit your propaganda. This so called "scientific facts" in Quran are basically cherry picked stuff from ancient Greek, Egyptian and Babylonian schools of thought. Your prophet probably thought, "Hey this is useful stuff to get followers, let me put them in a single book!" Grow up my dear and understand science better!
Allah didn't suddenly appear, because there was no time before the existence of Allah.
I know it is difficult for you to think far from time, but it is easy to you to understand that, time itself can be created. And before time, there was nothing we can comprehend.
And for the pedophile thing, I believe you had experienced that in your childhood, for that, you think every body think like your people.
mohamed was the greedy sex maniac. read your hadith. even the quran demand he get 20% lootings and spoils of war. fuck you hypocrite pig muslim. fuck allah and fuck mohamed
3 knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, 4 and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.”
Jude 18-19 states
18 how they told you that there would be mockers in the last time who would walk according to their own ungodly lusts. 19 These are sensual persons, who cause divisions, not having the Spirit
That's what someone who would try and convince you not to be a scoffer would write.
It's called "ruling by fear"
It's a basic religious tactic and people have been lusting and scoffing for 2000 years and probably will for another 2000 barring resource wars and environmental breakdown etc etc
Incidentally, all lusts are godly, if god exists he created them, he made the trees he made the fruit he made the lust, lust is godly, sort it out.
Islam is the real actual answer to the questions of your lost soul, and you will waste your life and the life of many generations to find (if ever) the same what Islam is telling us now.
Your problem is that, you don't accept the proof of Islam until it is experimental science. But that will never answer your questions about death (for example).
My advice to you is, that there are many logically acceptable proofs about Islam, and you better stop the curse of scientific narrow-minded fanatic.
There is nothing called "sudden appearance by CHANCE" in Islam. Even more, there is nothing called "CHANCE" in Islam regarding reality.
And your science is telling nothing about the start, and for that, it is very silly if compared to the really important information all human beings are really in need to know, which is the Start.
And by the way, your science is really useless, because it is only talking about the possibility, but not actuality.
Why is everyone so fascinated by the start? Without miracles and other amazing things and the presence of god one can only ASSUME the start was something else of natural origins. Something else is actually the logical place to start, not God or Allah or whomever you so choose. You see if your god started this and hasn't shown himself to the modern man then it is likely he is dead or never existed, pray for him to appear and be dissappointed because he WILL NOT.
You assumption is not reasonable along side the so many many examples we see in this world that, every system has a creator.
And at the same time, how can your assumption explain the history and scriptures?
Allah do not show himself even to prophet, because that will defeat the whole point of this temporary life.
You should have the choice, and if Allah (SWT) showed himself, you will no longer have any choice. So, who will go to paradise and who will go to hell with witnesses?
How indeed can we explain the scriptures? Well men wrote them and they are total nonsense. That is how. There are no WITNESSES the scriptures are fiction written by people with grand delusions.
Truth and knowledge took a big step backwards with the advent of islam.
As for "showing" himself, it's irrelevant, how come god is secretive now but not in a time when knowledge consisted of myth and folklore, seems the more we know the less miracles there are.....
Ok what the hell are you posting here? the stupid Dawkins while talking about Gloss paper !?..O my God..and his morals are really shown by his mockery and sarcasm..and did Dawkins give us the indisputable fossil?..you screwed yourself with this Video rather than supporting it !!!!
@saintpine Ok the same stereotype of all evolutionists,can't give one evidence hahaha.Ok..some similarity in genes doesn't mean that all creatures have a common ancestor..this is so lame..even Darwin himself said that his theory have many gapes..and you can't say that it's an accepted theory and no body can deny it..because it's wrong. You can't prove it? you see..you can't..you are just mocking and kidding..but where is the prove,don't say go and read because i did..that's why i see it stupid !
@CaesarDicax " Ok the same stereotype of all evolutionists,can't give one evidence hahaha"
I haven't said anything about evolution, I only told you to do some research on what you are trying to debunk, from the words you are using and your own understanding of the matter coming from preachers like Naik, it's quite clear that you have never opened a book about the subject.
I see that you have a very skeptical attitude, why don't you apply this same criticism to your fairy tale book ?
Who said that Qur'an talks about sudden emergence?..6 days and sudden? you must be kidding..Your videos are total crap..save time and effort for all of us and search google as if you are a muslim..i search google as an athiest to know your thinking..and plz tell me how do you think the world began?...and give me one clue on the missing link between apes and humans..I 'm waiting :)
It doesn't matter how he thinks the "world" began, what matters is the evidence. Lack of evidence is not automatic proof that the other hypothesis is correct.
"give me one clue on the missing link between apes and humans"
Since we're talking on a Yaya video, it would be like asking a missing link between Bush 12 years old, and Bush 18 years old, but then you'd reject it saying, but look at all the gaps at 13, 14, 15, 16 & 17!
@TurboDally You gave an example which is so far from the truth....what if i told you that Bush 12 yeras old, and Obama 18 years old !!! where is the surgery that transformed Bush to Obama..this is the main point ...i want the period when it was a human half Bush and half Obama !
"what if i told you that Bush 12 yeras old, and Obama 18 years old! where is the surgery that transformed Bush to Obama.this is the main point..i want the period when it was a human half Bush & half Obama"
That's like saying that you want to see a half-baby half-adult, you didn't even read or comprehend my comment. You don't get baby body sprouting adult arms, then next week adult legs. Likewise, you don't find half-crocodile half-duck forms.
@TurboDally i don't say that baby apes have adult parts..but it's obvious that there are bunch of important differences between apes and men..what's the indisputable clue !?.. unfortunately pal you can't put your claims based on imagination..It's just a theory no logical or scientific claims..even the skulls they found weren't confirmed scientifically as those of the period between apes and humans !
"it's obvious that there are bunch of important differences between apes and men"
Evolution is about change over time is it not?
"It's just a theory no logical or scientific claims"
In the context of everyday language, "just a theory" means guess, but in the scientific context, theory means much more. There are logical and scientific claims each supported with good evidence- which is one of the many reasons why biological scientists have no problem accepting evolution.
"unfortunately pal you can't put your claims based on imagination"
This has nothing to do with imagination, pal, it's all to do with evidence. If your religious based dogma forces you to reject evidence from various fields (e.g. biochemistry, bioinformatics, paleontology, etc) which point to one direction- that is your loss. I on the otherhand, value science over religious dogma. Your inability to understand or address my comments prompts me to not bother responding to you anymore.
@TurboDally ooooooooooooh my God...why don't you give ONE evidence?...If you argue me in something i will give you quotations with references.... and you say that you don't want to bother yourself..but you can attack other dogmas and religious beliefs !!!!
@TurboDally Ok but why don't you say that man is the same as roaches? instead of apes? it's a cahnge also....."in the scientific context, theory means much more. There are logical and scientific claims each supported with good evidence- which is one of the many reasons why biological scientists have no problem accepting evolution." : Ok where is the undisputable evidence? i 'm waiting !
"Ok but why don't you say that man is the same as roaches? instead of apes?"
Because we're not related to cockroaches to the same degree we are to other primates you budhoo.
"Ok where is the undisputable evidence? i'm waiting!"
I am not your baby sitter, there are articles & books you can read- many you can access for free. Biological evolution is no simple thing. I'm not going to waste hours of my life on someone who can't even comprehend basics of the foundation of biology.
@TurboDally OK i see that your reply becomes less decent and tends to mockery..but i tell you there is no such evidence OK..and i read a lot in every scientific field...but there are nothing, and i know that if a person know something and really believe it like you do..he shall be aware of these evidences and name one at least..but evolution is CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP !
@wowamonn i did, but they all crap..the uploader "debunkingharunyahya" asked any muslim to give him an example of a scientific discovery from Quran and i gave him one with reputable references..but when i ask for a proof for human evolution from apes..nobody gives me one..i searched..but they all claim..not confirm..so i still need one that is true..and not with some apes and gorilla's skulls :::::
@CaesarDicax " i gave him one with reputable references..but when i ask for a proof for human evolution from apes..nobody gives me one "
This is your first mistake humans are apes we did not Evolve from apes. All the great apes share a common ancestor that is why chimps and humans share almost identical DNA. You have have never been to a natural History Museaum? Where do you live?
@wowamonn Ok.who is this common ancestor?..and how can you prove it?..In fact i didn't visit any natural history museum..but i saw all the included stuff..and it proves nothing...and i read tons of books..they all shallow with no evidence..even if they are based on Carbon radiation and Paleontology.Check the Cranial shape of humans and apes and you will see the difference i even searched on artificial cranial deforming for some people like Pharaohs, Huns and Mayas and non of them is like apes !
@wowamonn I did and they talk about researches that found all people are descendants from the same "mother" not the same "Ape" !!!!!!...And some Similarity doesn't mean that we are descendants from them..And all those photos belong to Peking Man who was not an Ape but he was a "Man" !!!
@CaesarDicax I am not sure how you are interpreting the information you read or where you are getting it from but tthe evidence from the fossil record and the study of Genetics prove that we Evolved from Hominds like our cousins the chimps. Peking man is a Homo Erectus is a Arachiac human ancestor that left Africa 2.5 million years ago.
@wowamonn Ok how does it prove that?..i don't want anyone to just say something without evidences..what's the evidence?..how can you tell that those fossils really belong to humans !!..I talk about Peking man because it's the most ancient and reliable record..i tell you honestly "It looks like a man"..but chimps !!?..dude..do you really listen to yourself !?..All fossils tell us one thing : Apes have always existed as apes, and humans have always existed as humans and there is no common ancestor
@CaesarDicax Homo Erectus is not an ancestor of modern chimps. Humans and chimps shared a common ancestor millions of years before Homo Erectus. Do you want me to explain how we know that Humans and chimps share a common ancestor.
@wowamonn I read it and i don't need you to explain it because it has no evidence..but what is this ancestor that humans and chimps share?..did you see a single fossil for it?..even Darwin himself said that his theory is just a claim and can't answer many things..Unlike someone like Dawkins for example whe refuses to admit it..and says arrogantly that evolution must be believed as a fact even if there are no fossils at all..Those people are insane..check this plz : watch?v=A2UDOMXjCtM
@CaesarDicax Sigh...I have been to the Human Evolution Exibit in The US Natural History Museaum that has dozens of skeletons and skulls of these older human species when compared next to a modern human skull shows quiet clearly they are diffrent to us. I have personally seen a complete skelton of a Neaderthal. You are getting your information from creationist sources who lie AND distort the findings of these early human discoveries.
@wowamonn No i don't..but i use my brain and logic as well..There are many gaps in this theory which proves its failure..unlike many theories which proved to be correct by scientific evidences..not claims..OMG i 'm so surprised to see people want to be descendants from a common ancestor with chimps !.still there is no evidence.similarities proves nothing.It's as if you say BMW and Ferrari both have doors and steering wheels and windshields so they are manufactured based on the same prototype !
@CaesarDicax Do you know what is a retro virus? Its a virus that leaves a copy of its self in a host when the host becomes infected but after the infection is cured. A creature can pass on this copy of a retro virus to its offspring. That is why modern doctors can do blood tests to determine if a child has any genetic diesaes from its parents. In one of our Chromasome sequences there are 16 retro viruses that ALL humans share only one other creature share these same retro viruses.......
@CaesarDicax and that is the modern chimpaze. Now the question is how can two diffrent species have the same retro viruses in the same locations? Because our common ancestor had these retro viruses that passed them on to its offspring which later evolved in to humans and chimps. So it not a matter of wanting to be related to chimps we ARE related to them because we shared a common ancestor. Where are from friend?
@wowamonn All these stuff are claims..back to my example, BMW and Ferrari have steering wheels in the same place in front of the same seat and their positions are the same..so what? that doesn't prove anything..I think pal you are asking where am i from?..I 'm from Egypt !
@wowamonn Of course we were created by the one God, the creator of all universe..why it is so difficult and impossible for many people?..Yeah God created us and wants the good for us but he gave us the freedom of choice in a limited form, to distinguish between the good and the bad and behave well in our life in order to be rewarded in heaven..It's quite simple..In Qur'an God says " We have indeed created man in the best of moulds"..We are high intellectual creatures not emerged from others !
@wowamonn I know what you was talking about it is the sequence in the genome "thought" to be derived from ancient viral infections of germ cells in humans, mammals and other vertebrates..but all these stuff are thoughts and still need proofs !
@CaesarDicax Sorry, but the evidence is plain to see. just because you think its not true does not make it so, only folks who cling to this old mindset of a creator refuse to acknowledge these facts. Sorry but Evolution has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.
@wowamonn so what is it?..if you asked me about Theory of relativity i would tell you all sequences lead to E = mc2...but Evolution doesn't give you anything..And if you insist plz give me the evidence..why not?..you cn defeat me by giving me the evidence and i will renounce religion right now !
@CaesarDicax Its right on the web. Google the Smithsonion Instittue of Natural History ot pictures of fossils that have been found that clearly show The Evolution of Humans and other creatures. Look at vidoes of of the Modern science of Genetics that clearly shows that we Evolved. By the way can you please provide evidence for your god
@wowamonn Homer Jacobson, Professor Emeritus of Chemistry, makes the following admission regarding how impossible it is for life to have come about by chance:
@wowamonn Directions for the reproduction of plans, for energy and the extraction of parts from the current environment, for the growth sequence, and for the effector mechanism translating instructions into growth—all had to be simultaneously present at that moment [when life began]. This combination of events has seemed an incredibly unlikely happenstance...
@wowamonn You must be kidding !..All i see are pictures of Human skulls or that of chimps !..where is the period when there was a mix?..how do you think our very advanced brains came to their current form?..It's so stupid to even think that we were evolved from other animals_Don't think i 'm against it because i like my religion or something_ but there is no evidence..My dog has a more similar skeleton than these fossils..Come on, It's way big the gap between man and chimp..
@CaesarDicax iIt is not surprsing that you say you do not understand or wont accept the evidence that prove human Evolution. People like yourself think humans are a privilaged species created in the image of a god. Yet evan when the evidence is in your face you will deny it. So yes I think it s because of your attachment to the religon of the Arabs that is preventing you from acknowledgeing or understanding evidence for human Evolution.
@wowamonn Look man, i studied philosophy from the age of 12..Existentialism , and was affected by Nietzsche, Sartre and schopenhauer and many more..and i was about to become an athiest..my dad told me..search on your own till you convince with whatever you find it right..and i stated to study religions..eastern and western..even hidden sects..Being an Arab or a Muslim don't limit my mind...I live with logic that's all !
@wowamonn where is the logic in your theory?..Can i tell you that i bought the ingredients to make a cake..and i went to my work..then i came and Voila..the cake is ready by itself !..How?..It's away from logical thinking..and all fossils i see..are that of either Chimps or Humans !..where is the evolutionary period?..Sorry for that..but how people be so arrogant to debate something that even didn't happen in front of their eyes !?
@CaesarDicax Word games only make sense in the mind of the person hwo shape thier lives trying to get into your gods heaven. Its funny that a reliogn that says the Quran supports science actual denies Evolution which is a science that we have the MOST evidence for it occuring, I just find it Ironic lol. But I am glad your country teachs it in Public schools so that gives me hope that your country will not turn into those other middle east countires were religon retards its progress.
@wowamonn Look man, till now..no one gave me a clear evidence for evolution..On the contrary, all evolutionists are avoiding this point..and give me some fossils that related to Apes and chimps..what's the evidence that these fossils are for another creature and don't belong to early chimp? the answer is zero..no evidence..no body is sure that we actually had a common ancestor..only claims..but nothing is confirmed..and all similarities don't introduce an evidence !
@CaesarDicax Well unfortuantly you have never visited a Natural History Museaum were thousands of fossial are stored or on display that clearly show our pre-human ancestors so regardless of what you think these fossils exist and this tells us that we were not created by any god. Why did the Arab god revel himself to Arabs and not to your people during the time of the Pharoahs? Dont you think that is strange?
@wowamonn No..in our religion..Nobody saw God..Never..but as for the pharaohs; God sent Joseph and Moses (PBUT), and in Qur'an God tells us that he will not punish any unbeliever as long as he didn't send him a messenger. So for example, Siberians, live in a remote area, and don't have any technologies..so they can't obtain knowledge..So God will not punish them whatever they do, because they don't know what he wants them to behave like..!
@CaesarDicax Quran is NOT the word of a god so it carries no weight in your arguments. It is not holy its just a book written by men who lived in the middle east but not from a diety.
@wowamonn Alright, it's normal you say so..but what did these men gain from that?...but look to any religion that man made it by himself..like Hinduism..you will find that they put sex as a part of their rituals..Buddhism : you pray for an idol of Buddha.. but in Islam, what does God want you to do?..All are good things..what did Muhammed (PBUH) gain? nothing ! he was oppressed and opposed..They tried to kill him..
@CaesarDicax So what if sex is part of some Hindu rituals? So what if some people pray to idols in thier religon it is THIER religon. Mohammed created Islam based on his tribal god, infused it with some christian and jewish teachings, and then declared that this was a revelation of his god but when you read the Quran from a non-relgious bias it is quiet obvious that the book is very silly and primitive with a mix of stories and myths from the old jewish and christian teachings and dogma.
@wowamonn It's obvious that they put these things to gain something out of it..but Mohammed (PBUH) fought and faced a lot of hardships for what? only for God...And it's obvious that you get your knowledge without any reading; because Arab worshiped idols..so how come that he created Islam and based it on his tribal god !?..I don't think you ever read the Qur'an..try to read it first please..and about its similarities with Jewish and Christian dogmas because all of them from the same God !!!
@CaesarDicax No, my friend why would the Jewsih god reveal this ' holy ' book to Arabs? Mohammed had an agenda and he used this infusion of jewish and christian myths to spread his twisted form of religon. Hey do you believe that Jesus was born for a virgin birth?
@wowamonn What agendas? and seriously..tell me what did Muhammed (PBUH) gained? tell me !...and of course i believe that Jesus was born for a virgin birth
@CaesarDicax Guess what, the book of Matthew where the story is told was a fullfillment of a ' prophecy ' found in the book of Isaiah. In the book of Isaiah it states that child would be born to a young maiden, Matthew used the word virgin instead of young maiden. Evan if you read the book of Isaiah the context of the story says nothing of a redemer being born. So billions of folks have come to believe this story of jesus which was based on a simple mistranslation of a single word.
@wowamonn Guess what, it's also familiar with the story of Horus the Egyptian sun god...but that doesn't prove anything..and as for the bible..we _Muslims_ believe that many chapters were written afterwords and there are many many mistakes in translations from Latin..Our knowledge is based on Qur'an only !
@CaesarDicax The original translations of the gospels including the book of Matthew was in Greek, not Latin. Therefore the mistake was made in the original Greek. Matthew was not a very good Hebrew translator. Theofore the asseration still stands the error was carried over into your belifs and now you muslims inherited the mistake.
@wowamonn OMG..what have i just said?..we believe only in Qur'an..but unlike christians _as they look upon the old testament_ we see that both the old and the new testaments are full of many mistakes..But that doesn't mean they are totally wrong !
My freind the Quran is NOT a Holy book it is a fradulent version of Christian and jewish belifs evan the ex-muslims whom I talk to at work say the Mohammed stole these ideas and infused them in his tribal religon.
@wowamonn Don't build your believes upon others' !..you search by yourself..and no..Qur'an is holy..as the bible and the Gospel ..They are all from one God..that's why they talk about the same principles !..That doesn't make any sense; because the source is the same !..Read this book :" Muhammad: A Biography of the Prophet (1991)"..by Karen Armstrong !
@wowamonn "No, its not the same, because divine messages are not given to humans from gods because they dont exist friend" >>> that's true they don't exist because there is only one God..so how do you think the world come?
@CaesarDicax Google big bang then read serveral artcicles on the Hypothosis then post but make sure you understand the argument. Let me ask you this were did your god come from was he created?
@wowamonn I read about it a lot before..but as for God..he wasn't created..he is the creator..unlike bible..we muslims don't give God human qualities or weakness..he is omnipotent...but the big bang doesn't give a clue itself..what's the origin according to your point of view...BTW check this in youtube : "Ex-atheist Romanian Girl Accepts Islam because of the Miracle of the Big Bang in the Quran"
@CaesarDicax Er..... That video of the Romanian Girl was a hoax I actually have a sub to her. Her name is
ZONGitsCriss and she has tons of videos making fun of all religons on youtube go check her out. The Arab god was not created? Then how did the Arab god come in to existance?
@wowamonn Man, you can't apply human qualities upon God !..He is the Alpha and the Omega; nothing was before him and nothing is after..he is the One..and BTW..there is no Arab God and Asian God and etc..There is only one God Allah..and the word God in Arabic is Allah..so we worship him..and there is nothing bad in that...he doesn't order us to do any wrong !..away from fanatics..Moderate Muslims represents the true religion !
@CaesarDicax Actually only religion - specifically Islam - gives human characteristics to God....Emotions such as anger, vanity, jealously and an occasional psychotic tendencies....What we already know about the universe makes a complete mockery of all bronze age religious texts....The Quran being the pinnacle of outdated, 6th century superstitions.
@CaesarDicax all that alpha n omega bullshit.. now lets talk about evidence.. show me one evidence of god..or yur allah outside the book??? dont say book is the evidence cuz that is just horse shit...bring me evidence n i can show you evidence of evolution put in different catagories... FOSSILS, DNA, HUMAN GENOME, CARBON DATING etc etc.
@CaesarDicax By the way I dont think you understand my comments. You tried to equate my last comment about Mary to that of the birth of Horus, your peoples ancient sun god, but that was not my point my point was that this is a well known mistake attributed to the write of the book of Matthew in using the wrong word from Hebrew to Greek.
@CaesarDicax No,The writer of Matthew did not know the diffrence between a young maiden and virgin in Hebrew so when he wrote his gospel in greek he used the wrong word that is how the belief of Mary being a virgin when she gave birth to Jesus of Nazereth begun.
@wowamonn and when he became powerful they came to him and asked him what would he do with them..he said..Go, you are free..after about 22 years of wars with him and killing his companions and treachery !!..so what? is he a liar? noooooooo..he ordered us to be better..please read this..and don't ignore reading it..read it and you will know everything : 4shared.com/document/wlhvQhZ5/The_Life_of_the_Prophet_Muhamm.html
@wowamonn Look,even if you don't believe in God.Read the Qur'an,what is so bad in it for that degree?Western media tend to deform us,Its roots are so ancient, since crusades.I think maybe our struggle with zionist Israel made them do so,but the point is.you will find many Islam haters and the funny thing that they read about Islam on the internet,where anyone can claim anything.but for better reading.read for people who lived for writing about the subject like:Washington Irving& Karin Armstrong
@CaesarDicax Islam is a hoax friend it is not based on revalations but on a fraud if you can just only open your eyes you will see this a not through the interpretations of your teachers.
@wowamonn Roy Britten, a biologist at the California Institute of Technology, said in a study published this week that a new way of comparing the genes shows that the human and chimp genetic similarity is only about 95 percent. Britten based this on a computer program that compared 780,000 of the 3 billion base pairs in the human DNA helix with those of the chimp. He found more mismatches than earlier researchers had, and concluded that at least 3.9 percent of the DNA bases were different.
@CaesarDicax " This led him to conclude that there is a fundamental genetic
difference between the species of about 5 percent "
Yes, that is why its called a diffrent species. Since you like doing do research why dont you look at my Subs one is called WhyEvolutionistrue it has alot of shows that explain the basic workings of Evolution. By the way I know a few mulims that accept Evolution and still believe in a god. They just dont take the Quran literally.
@wowamonn Look man, i believe in Evolution but in a limited degree..And of course in no way concerning humans..I know some things are true and with evidences..For example, i know that horses were poly-dactyl..Why?..because we have fossils for "Horses"..But we don't have the same in human case..We have either the skeletons of Chimps or Humans..but there is no way that there is a single fossil for the alleged ancestor and it beyond doubt..Unlike horses !
@CaesarDicax We have lots of fossils of out pre-human ancestors. The problem is that you get your information from religous sites or books that distort the Theory of Evolution by Natural selection.
@wowamonn No, i don't take knowledge from Islamic sites..to tell the truth..they don't introduce enough evidences..but as for my knowledge about evolution..i read for Ricahard Dawkins : God delusion and the greatest show..and i criticized the first one and sent him the criticism in a wordpad file..but he didn't answer till now !..I studied excavations in Gobi desert, Baluchestan and in Cairo; but there is no evidence of a common ancestor..no way to tell !!!
@CaesarDicax " but there is no evidence..My dog has a more similar skeleton than these fossils..Come on, It's way big the gap between man and chimp.. "
A dog has a protruding face, narrow skull. The socket is at the back of the head for the spinal cord to be attached no eye ridge, small nasal cavity, no vocal bones in the throat. And you want to copare a dog bone to that of hominds. In your comments there is a lot of words but no substance.
@CaesarDicax "you cn defeat me by giving me the evidence and i will renounce religion right now !"
Apes have 24 chromosome pairs and we have 23 pairs. Human chromosome 2 is a fusion of two ape chromosomes. It even has the telomeres (the parts at the ends) in the middle of the chromosome. Why would we have two fused chimpanzee chromosomes in us if we weren't descended from a common ancestor?
@CaesarDicax That is silliest thing I ever heard you actually beieve in the existance of gods? Snf you actually beieve that a god gave you his veiws in a book called the Quran? Wow I had no idea you believed in myths.
@wowamonn Our species evolved?..what's the proof? some people said that so you follow?..and my God is the creator of all things..he is only one..the Alpha and the Omega..can you even realize the nature of your soul?..you ask about God?..He is the creator..He is always there..Unlike the concept of christianity, God has no son or wife..everything will perish except himself..He is not alive nor dead, because you can't even apply human measures upon him..your concept of God is so shallow !!!!
@wowamonn Why very weak? everything must have a creator..there is a rule in science : nihil ex nihilo est..nothing comes out of nothing..I believe in The omnipotent God..but you believe in what? chance? Self_catalyst? ...
I really don't know if i 'm of Arab origin or Egyptian !!...Many nationalities live in Egypt through times..but i have Caucasian features..Brown hair, white skin...etc !
@wowamonn Look, search about the whole matter very well..I swear God exists..It's your life don't waste it for no reason..there is nothing God orders you to do and it is a bad thing.Look in the Qur'an_Unlike the common image_ we don't have the killing penalty for apostasy as haters say.if somebody argues with you in that..ask him to give you this verse in Qur'an that states so.Muhammed (PBUH) didn't marry Aisha when she was 6 years old as they say..He didn't kill innocents, he defended his state
@wowamonn I can give you scientific proofs from the Qur'an that it's the word of God..Muhamed (PBUH) was illiterate..and many scientific verses give any body with vision a clear concept that it is the word of God ..if you want some i 'll give you many proofs :D
@CaesarDicax " was illiterate..and many scientific verses give any body with vision a clear concept that it is the word of God ..if you want some i 'll give you many proofs :D "
I have read them all my freind many, many, muslims have used the SAME argument when debating with me. It is sad that this nonsense is still taught in the Arab world. Please google sceintific miracles debunked in the Quran because it seems you never had a chance to read these articles.
@wowamonn BTW..you will not find any muslim tells you how God looks like !..because we don't know..we know that this world was made by a Great Creator..And this world didn't come out of nothing or by chance or by a single cell..and If it was by a single cell..so who made it?
@wowamonn I did my friend...this is not my first time to debate in such cases..Ok..You know what !.they manipulate with words..and the funny thing that they even don't know Arabic..But they lie..and i can prove that to you..just pick any miracle and its "Refutation" and i will counter that :D
@wowamonn Do you know that AIDS first appeared in Monkeys and then was transferred to humans..and that is a recent thing..the retro viruse proves one thing that there are many diseases are common between man and chimp.."Common Disease" not "Common Ancestor" !
@CaesarDicax Aids is a active virus it is not a Retro virus. I am beginning to suspect you never studied biology or have a minimum understanding of how biology works. Why dont you google or find on youtube vidoes on ERV's (retro viruses) and try to understand the evidence for common ancestory.Your god would not mind if you do this in fact I am pretty sure he/she will want you to investigate this evidence.
@CaesarDicax Sigh.....I am not sure what you where you got your information but Evolution by Natural Selection is a fact and this has been proven by the the fossils of our ancestors that are on display in Natutural Museums around the world. It has been comfirmed by studying the genetic code. Also what do you mean they are both virus? HIV is the virus is the virus causes aids you are confusing an active virus with ERVs are not active. Stop getting your information from creationist websites.
@saintpine Actually i read that book of Richard Dawkins..and i can tell you it sucks..the man doesn't give you anything...he "claims"...but doesn't prove anything...Look pal..if i told you Einstein was Wrong..you can post so many evidences that he was not..and that's true..because he was not..but Darwin? seriously? people plz..get a life !
@CaesarDicax "Actually i read that book of Richard Dawkins..and i can tell you it sucks..the man doesn't give you anything...he "claims"..."
Don't talk bullshit, your silly and ridiculous questions you've been asking all over is sufficient proof that you have never opened a book about evolution, or you slept on it.
Get and education, learn something about what you are trying to debunk, otherwise you will become the laughing stock of YouTube.
@CaesarDicax " I think "the laughing stock of YouTube." is you..because you can't prove the shit out of it..accept it man..You lose !"
If it makes you happy believing this, go ahead, it doesn't cause me any harm.
You are not interested in the truth, you have already made up your mind, due to fear or whatever, your fairy tale Allah is more important than the truth for you.
You indoctrination program was a great success, well done.
Isn't this shit getting old, guys?
paularizer 3 weeks ago
@paularizer It never gets old ^^
ismaeel747 1 week ago
@pamuk7. Listen the prophet of Islam. Was illiterate it is basically impossible for him to have taken ideas from e.g. Egypt. The science in the Qur'an is not distorted if it was 1400 year old nonsense how is it so scientific. And answer this if evolution is true then where did the first living cell come about. From an unconscience mechanism, really come on even our daily lives we do not see such ridiculous occurences. It's like saying bill gates got rich by chance.
kago500 3 months ago
@kago500 The reason the Quran is so scientific to you is because when you say scientific you mean something different to what most people consider science. For every supposed scientific miracle claim you can present from the Quran there are hundreds of videos on this very website thoroughly debunking them. All it takes is a quick browse. Anyone with an internet connection can see the scientific miracles of the Quran are actually not that miraculous at all and most often simply wrong.
Sinnessa 3 months ago
@kago500 he was illiterate not deaf ,he could not read/write he was not an idiot, or he would not b able to gather a group of loyal warriors and rule ( not all prophets ruled )Besides didnt he do commerce ?=he met ppl was not a homebound housewife,he was a man of the world
Besides would that mean that Pythagoras+others had also revelations by angels since noone taught them what they knew?-they discovered by THEMSELVES Also i do not understand what is the extra knowledge u claim he had
delagrazia 3 months ago
Go to creation minustery in google refutes venters experiment about building blocks for life incase that comes up.
pamuk7 4 months ago
Yes brainless mother.nature created everything but me atheiest with all my brain can not compete with brainless.mother nature and create a fly, brainless mother nature didnt need to go to school nor sit maths exam yet defeats all you educated atheits who spend billions of tax payers dollars to come close..lol
pamuk7 4 months ago
Guidance!
pamuk7 4 months ago
What a retarded video response, im actually sitting with a university student who studies biology and shes laughing with me, the cell is very very complex in design that even scientist can not create one with all there intelegence yet atheists claim its the product of brainless mother nature, and yes it proves design and yes the cell when it comes across elements it does not need it stores and has defence to not allow in bad elements..now thats amazing and if thats not chance u agree its devine
pamuk7 4 months ago
@pamuk7 Just because you don't understand evolution doesn't mean you can go around converting people into your 1400 years old barbaric nonsense by distorting scientific facts to suit your propaganda. This so called "scientific facts" in Quran are basically cherry picked stuff from ancient Greek, Egyptian and Babylonian schools of thought. Your prophet probably thought, "Hey this is useful stuff to get followers, let me put them in a single book!" Grow up my dear and understand science better!
pleasantleethedragon 4 months ago
@hydromett
Allah didn't suddenly appear, because there was no time before the existence of Allah.
I know it is difficult for you to think far from time, but it is easy to you to understand that, time itself can be created. And before time, there was nothing we can comprehend.
And for the pedophile thing, I believe you had experienced that in your childhood, for that, you think every body think like your people.
amersabag 4 months ago
@amersabag
allah was a moon god, the greatest of the lot.
thats why muslims shout, " allah is the greatest"
fuck you pig idiot. you can't comprehend cos you have a thick skull and thats why you remain forced into pisslam
AreebaAmigo 4 months ago
BULLSHIT
Hkhan23 5 months ago
@hydromett ur brain cant understand this..its is called gnosticism ..thats all
MrBess81 6 months ago
@MrBess81
muslims have no brains. if they have they would have left pisslam.
how can anyone with brains would believe a criminal evil greedy sex maniac and motherfucker mohamed was send from god.
fuck you idiot, you are a psycho to believe that shit.
i fuck allah the imaginary bastard of muslim
muhamadick 6 months ago
@muhamadick ur just a words saying maniac....
MrBess81 6 months ago
@muhamadick ur a so sick...ur mind is just a great piece of shit
MrBess81 6 months ago
@MrBess81
mohamed was the sick bastard
AreebaAmigo 4 months ago
@muhamadick why do you attack islam? How is it any different from christianity and judaeism?
nejtilsvampe 5 months ago
@nejtilsvampe It has milions of radicals who say Kill the Americans and the jews.
that's why.
chrstilen5 5 months ago
@nejtilsvampe islam is a hybrid of christianity, mohmaed fucked a dead woman
AreebaAmigo 4 months ago
@AreebaAmigo not sure you know what a hybrid is, but I guess I know what you mean. However, by that logic christianity is a "hybrid" of judaeism...
The people writing the bible were slavelords, rapists, murderers and pillaging sadistic jews..
You're using an ad hominum, it's a logical fallacy. These religions are no different..
nejtilsvampe 4 months ago
@muhamadick
It is easy for Muslims to believe in that, because the definitions are different.
A good husband to Muslims, is a greedy sex maniac in your culture.
And a great honest prophet to Muslims, is called motherfucker in your culture.
Good food to Muslims called shit in your culture. And shit to Muslims called good food in your culture.
It is that easy my friend, but you are really so amazingly stupid to believe what you believe about Muhammad (PBUH)
amersabag 4 months ago
@amersabag
mohamed was the greedy sex maniac. read your hadith. even the quran demand he get 20% lootings and spoils of war. fuck you hypocrite pig muslim. fuck allah and fuck mohamed
AreebaAmigo 4 months ago
@MrBess81
Actually I don't understand it because it is not for reasonable human being.
amersabag 4 months ago
2 Peter 3:3-4 states
3 knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, 4 and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.”
Jude 18-19 states
18 how they told you that there would be mockers in the last time who would walk according to their own ungodly lusts. 19 These are sensual persons, who cause divisions, not having the Spirit
doobersmanster 7 months ago
@doobersmanster
That's what someone who would try and convince you not to be a scoffer would write.
It's called "ruling by fear"
It's a basic religious tactic and people have been lusting and scoffing for 2000 years and probably will for another 2000 barring resource wars and environmental breakdown etc etc
Incidentally, all lusts are godly, if god exists he created them, he made the trees he made the fruit he made the lust, lust is godly, sort it out.
mattshark100 4 months ago
@hydromett FUCK YOU EVIL SCUM, NO LIFE BITCH, GO TO HELL, OR KILL YOURSELF.
17jun1989 7 months ago
@17jun1989
mohamed was the evil scum low life motherfucker
AreebaAmigo 4 months ago
I can see 'The Jeffery Bada!'
Troutmasta 7 months ago
Islam is the real actual answer to the questions of your lost soul, and you will waste your life and the life of many generations to find (if ever) the same what Islam is telling us now.
Your problem is that, you don't accept the proof of Islam until it is experimental science. But that will never answer your questions about death (for example).
My advice to you is, that there are many logically acceptable proofs about Islam, and you better stop the curse of scientific narrow-minded fanatic.
amersabag 7 months ago
@amersabag It's better to die finding answers than making them up :)
omarsabih 7 months ago
@omarsabih
Yes, I agree. But you are missing the point.
amersabag 4 months ago
Actually you are debunking her with other lies.
There is nothing called "sudden appearance by CHANCE" in Islam. Even more, there is nothing called "CHANCE" in Islam regarding reality.
And your science is telling nothing about the start, and for that, it is very silly if compared to the really important information all human beings are really in need to know, which is the Start.
And by the way, your science is really useless, because it is only talking about the possibility, but not actuality.
amersabag 7 months ago
@amersabag
Why is everyone so fascinated by the start? Without miracles and other amazing things and the presence of god one can only ASSUME the start was something else of natural origins. Something else is actually the logical place to start, not God or Allah or whomever you so choose. You see if your god started this and hasn't shown himself to the modern man then it is likely he is dead or never existed, pray for him to appear and be dissappointed because he WILL NOT.
mattshark100 7 months ago
@mattshark100
You assumption is not reasonable along side the so many many examples we see in this world that, every system has a creator.
And at the same time, how can your assumption explain the history and scriptures?
Allah do not show himself even to prophet, because that will defeat the whole point of this temporary life.
You should have the choice, and if Allah (SWT) showed himself, you will no longer have any choice. So, who will go to paradise and who will go to hell with witnesses?
amersabag 4 months ago
@amersabag
how can muslims worship the lies from a pedophile necrophile thief rapist robber murderer scum filthy rotten motherfucker mohamed??
how can muslims worship , bow and run round a stone? thats pure idolatry and paganism. fuck you pig muslim
AreebaAmigo 4 months ago
@amersabag
How indeed can we explain the scriptures? Well men wrote them and they are total nonsense. That is how. There are no WITNESSES the scriptures are fiction written by people with grand delusions.
Truth and knowledge took a big step backwards with the advent of islam.
As for "showing" himself, it's irrelevant, how come god is secretive now but not in a time when knowledge consisted of myth and folklore, seems the more we know the less miracles there are.....
mattshark100 4 months ago
@amersabag What is possible, happens...what is not possible does not...science works with possibles...
omarsabih 4 months ago
lol.. farkin ho spreadin disinfo just to prove her religion...
chinamanspeakenlis 8 months ago
Ok what the hell are you posting here? the stupid Dawkins while talking about Gloss paper !?..O my God..and his morals are really shown by his mockery and sarcasm..and did Dawkins give us the indisputable fossil?..you screwed yourself with this Video rather than supporting it !!!!
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax
Sweetheart, get yourself and education, and come back in about 10 years time.
saintpine 9 months ago
@saintpine Ok the same stereotype of all evolutionists,can't give one evidence hahaha.Ok..some similarity in genes doesn't mean that all creatures have a common ancestor..this is so lame..even Darwin himself said that his theory have many gapes..and you can't say that it's an accepted theory and no body can deny it..because it's wrong. You can't prove it? you see..you can't..you are just mocking and kidding..but where is the prove,don't say go and read because i did..that's why i see it stupid !
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax " Ok the same stereotype of all evolutionists,can't give one evidence hahaha"
I haven't said anything about evolution, I only told you to do some research on what you are trying to debunk, from the words you are using and your own understanding of the matter coming from preachers like Naik, it's quite clear that you have never opened a book about the subject.
I see that you have a very skeptical attitude, why don't you apply this same criticism to your fairy tale book ?
saintpine 9 months ago
Who said that Qur'an talks about sudden emergence?..6 days and sudden? you must be kidding..Your videos are total crap..save time and effort for all of us and search google as if you are a muslim..i search google as an athiest to know your thinking..and plz tell me how do you think the world began?...and give me one clue on the missing link between apes and humans..I 'm waiting :)
CaesarDicax 10 months ago
@CaesarDicax
"plz tell me how do you think the world began?"
It doesn't matter how he thinks the "world" began, what matters is the evidence. Lack of evidence is not automatic proof that the other hypothesis is correct.
"give me one clue on the missing link between apes and humans"
Since we're talking on a Yaya video, it would be like asking a missing link between Bush 12 years old, and Bush 18 years old, but then you'd reject it saying, but look at all the gaps at 13, 14, 15, 16 & 17!
TurboDally 10 months ago
@TurboDally You gave an example which is so far from the truth....what if i told you that Bush 12 yeras old, and Obama 18 years old !!! where is the surgery that transformed Bush to Obama..this is the main point ...i want the period when it was a human half Bush and half Obama !
CaesarDicax 10 months ago
@CaesarDicax
"what if i told you that Bush 12 yeras old, and Obama 18 years old! where is the surgery that transformed Bush to Obama.this is the main point..i want the period when it was a human half Bush & half Obama"
That's like saying that you want to see a half-baby half-adult, you didn't even read or comprehend my comment. You don't get baby body sprouting adult arms, then next week adult legs. Likewise, you don't find half-crocodile half-duck forms.
TurboDally 9 months ago
@TurboDally i don't say that baby apes have adult parts..but it's obvious that there are bunch of important differences between apes and men..what's the indisputable clue !?.. unfortunately pal you can't put your claims based on imagination..It's just a theory no logical or scientific claims..even the skulls they found weren't confirmed scientifically as those of the period between apes and humans !
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax
"it's obvious that there are bunch of important differences between apes and men"
Evolution is about change over time is it not?
"It's just a theory no logical or scientific claims"
In the context of everyday language, "just a theory" means guess, but in the scientific context, theory means much more. There are logical and scientific claims each supported with good evidence- which is one of the many reasons why biological scientists have no problem accepting evolution.
TurboDally 9 months ago
"unfortunately pal you can't put your claims based on imagination"
This has nothing to do with imagination, pal, it's all to do with evidence. If your religious based dogma forces you to reject evidence from various fields (e.g. biochemistry, bioinformatics, paleontology, etc) which point to one direction- that is your loss. I on the otherhand, value science over religious dogma. Your inability to understand or address my comments prompts me to not bother responding to you anymore.
TurboDally 9 months ago
@TurboDally ooooooooooooh my God...why don't you give ONE evidence?...If you argue me in something i will give you quotations with references.... and you say that you don't want to bother yourself..but you can attack other dogmas and religious beliefs !!!!
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@TurboDally Ok but why don't you say that man is the same as roaches? instead of apes? it's a cahnge also....."in the scientific context, theory means much more. There are logical and scientific claims each supported with good evidence- which is one of the many reasons why biological scientists have no problem accepting evolution." : Ok where is the undisputable evidence? i 'm waiting !
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax
"Ok but why don't you say that man is the same as roaches? instead of apes?"
Because we're not related to cockroaches to the same degree we are to other primates you budhoo.
"Ok where is the undisputable evidence? i'm waiting!"
I am not your baby sitter, there are articles & books you can read- many you can access for free. Biological evolution is no simple thing. I'm not going to waste hours of my life on someone who can't even comprehend basics of the foundation of biology.
TurboDally 9 months ago
@TurboDally OK i see that your reply becomes less decent and tends to mockery..but i tell you there is no such evidence OK..and i read a lot in every scientific field...but there are nothing, and i know that if a person know something and really believe it like you do..he shall be aware of these evidences and name one at least..but evolution is CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP !
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax Why dont you do research on Evolution from reputable websites? There are tons of Paper and books explaining how it works.
wowamonn 9 months ago
@wowamonn i did, but they all crap..the uploader "debunkingharunyahya" asked any muslim to give him an example of a scientific discovery from Quran and i gave him one with reputable references..but when i ask for a proof for human evolution from apes..nobody gives me one..i searched..but they all claim..not confirm..so i still need one that is true..and not with some apes and gorilla's skulls :::::
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax " i gave him one with reputable references..but when i ask for a proof for human evolution from apes..nobody gives me one "
This is your first mistake humans are apes we did not Evolve from apes. All the great apes share a common ancestor that is why chimps and humans share almost identical DNA. You have have never been to a natural History Museaum? Where do you live?
wowamonn 9 months ago
@wowamonn Ok.who is this common ancestor?..and how can you prove it?..In fact i didn't visit any natural history museum..but i saw all the included stuff..and it proves nothing...and i read tons of books..they all shallow with no evidence..even if they are based on Carbon radiation and Paleontology.Check the Cranial shape of humans and apes and you will see the difference i even searched on artificial cranial deforming for some people like Pharaohs, Huns and Mayas and non of them is like apes !
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax You can look on youtube for pics and commentry on human ancestors.
wowamonn 9 months ago
@wowamonn I did and they talk about researches that found all people are descendants from the same "mother" not the same "Ape" !!!!!!...And some Similarity doesn't mean that we are descendants from them..And all those photos belong to Peking Man who was not an Ape but he was a "Man" !!!
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax I am not sure how you are interpreting the information you read or where you are getting it from but tthe evidence from the fossil record and the study of Genetics prove that we Evolved from Hominds like our cousins the chimps. Peking man is a Homo Erectus is a Arachiac human ancestor that left Africa 2.5 million years ago.
wowamonn 9 months ago
@wowamonn Ok how does it prove that?..i don't want anyone to just say something without evidences..what's the evidence?..how can you tell that those fossils really belong to humans !!..I talk about Peking man because it's the most ancient and reliable record..i tell you honestly "It looks like a man"..but chimps !!?..dude..do you really listen to yourself !?..All fossils tell us one thing : Apes have always existed as apes, and humans have always existed as humans and there is no common ancestor
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax Homo Erectus is not an ancestor of modern chimps. Humans and chimps shared a common ancestor millions of years before Homo Erectus. Do you want me to explain how we know that Humans and chimps share a common ancestor.
wowamonn 9 months ago
@wowamonn I read it and i don't need you to explain it because it has no evidence..but what is this ancestor that humans and chimps share?..did you see a single fossil for it?..even Darwin himself said that his theory is just a claim and can't answer many things..Unlike someone like Dawkins for example whe refuses to admit it..and says arrogantly that evolution must be believed as a fact even if there are no fossils at all..Those people are insane..check this plz : watch?v=A2UDOMXjCtM
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax Sigh...I have been to the Human Evolution Exibit in The US Natural History Museaum that has dozens of skeletons and skulls of these older human species when compared next to a modern human skull shows quiet clearly they are diffrent to us. I have personally seen a complete skelton of a Neaderthal. You are getting your information from creationist sources who lie AND distort the findings of these early human discoveries.
wowamonn 9 months ago
@wowamonn No i don't..but i use my brain and logic as well..There are many gaps in this theory which proves its failure..unlike many theories which proved to be correct by scientific evidences..not claims..OMG i 'm so surprised to see people want to be descendants from a common ancestor with chimps !.still there is no evidence.similarities proves nothing.It's as if you say BMW and Ferrari both have doors and steering wheels and windshields so they are manufactured based on the same prototype !
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax Do you know what is a retro virus? Its a virus that leaves a copy of its self in a host when the host becomes infected but after the infection is cured. A creature can pass on this copy of a retro virus to its offspring. That is why modern doctors can do blood tests to determine if a child has any genetic diesaes from its parents. In one of our Chromasome sequences there are 16 retro viruses that ALL humans share only one other creature share these same retro viruses.......
wowamonn 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax and that is the modern chimpaze. Now the question is how can two diffrent species have the same retro viruses in the same locations? Because our common ancestor had these retro viruses that passed them on to its offspring which later evolved in to humans and chimps. So it not a matter of wanting to be related to chimps we ARE related to them because we shared a common ancestor. Where are from friend?
wowamonn 9 months ago
@wowamonn All these stuff are claims..back to my example, BMW and Ferrari have steering wheels in the same place in front of the same seat and their positions are the same..so what? that doesn't prove anything..I think pal you are asking where am i from?..I 'm from Egypt !
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax Are you saying that we were created?
wowamonn 9 months ago
@wowamonn Of course we were created by the one God, the creator of all universe..why it is so difficult and impossible for many people?..Yeah God created us and wants the good for us but he gave us the freedom of choice in a limited form, to distinguish between the good and the bad and behave well in our life in order to be rewarded in heaven..It's quite simple..In Qur'an God says " We have indeed created man in the best of moulds"..We are high intellectual creatures not emerged from others !
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax My Apolgise I meant to say ERVs.
wowamonn 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax My apolgise I meant to say ERVs.
wowamonn 9 months ago
@wowamonn I know what you was talking about it is the sequence in the genome "thought" to be derived from ancient viral infections of germ cells in humans, mammals and other vertebrates..but all these stuff are thoughts and still need proofs !
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax Sorry, but the evidence is plain to see. just because you think its not true does not make it so, only folks who cling to this old mindset of a creator refuse to acknowledge these facts. Sorry but Evolution has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.
wowamonn 9 months ago
@wowamonn so what is it?..if you asked me about Theory of relativity i would tell you all sequences lead to E = mc2...but Evolution doesn't give you anything..And if you insist plz give me the evidence..why not?..you cn defeat me by giving me the evidence and i will renounce religion right now !
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax Its right on the web. Google the Smithsonion Instittue of Natural History ot pictures of fossils that have been found that clearly show The Evolution of Humans and other creatures. Look at vidoes of of the Modern science of Genetics that clearly shows that we Evolved. By the way can you please provide evidence for your god
wowamonn 9 months ago
@wowamonn Homer Jacobson, Professor Emeritus of Chemistry, makes the following admission regarding how impossible it is for life to have come about by chance:
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@wowamonn Directions for the reproduction of plans, for energy and the extraction of parts from the current environment, for the growth sequence, and for the effector mechanism translating instructions into growth—all had to be simultaneously present at that moment [when life began]. This combination of events has seemed an incredibly unlikely happenstance...
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@wowamonn You must be kidding !..All i see are pictures of Human skulls or that of chimps !..where is the period when there was a mix?..how do you think our very advanced brains came to their current form?..It's so stupid to even think that we were evolved from other animals_Don't think i 'm against it because i like my religion or something_ but there is no evidence..My dog has a more similar skeleton than these fossils..Come on, It's way big the gap between man and chimp..
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax iIt is not surprsing that you say you do not understand or wont accept the evidence that prove human Evolution. People like yourself think humans are a privilaged species created in the image of a god. Yet evan when the evidence is in your face you will deny it. So yes I think it s because of your attachment to the religon of the Arabs that is preventing you from acknowledgeing or understanding evidence for human Evolution.
wowamonn 9 months ago
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CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@wowamonn Look man, i studied philosophy from the age of 12..Existentialism , and was affected by Nietzsche, Sartre and schopenhauer and many more..and i was about to become an athiest..my dad told me..search on your own till you convince with whatever you find it right..and i stated to study religions..eastern and western..even hidden sects..Being an Arab or a Muslim don't limit my mind...I live with logic that's all !
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@wowamonn where is the logic in your theory?..Can i tell you that i bought the ingredients to make a cake..and i went to my work..then i came and Voila..the cake is ready by itself !..How?..It's away from logical thinking..and all fossils i see..are that of either Chimps or Humans !..where is the evolutionary period?..Sorry for that..but how people be so arrogant to debate something that even didn't happen in front of their eyes !?
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax Word games only make sense in the mind of the person hwo shape thier lives trying to get into your gods heaven. Its funny that a reliogn that says the Quran supports science actual denies Evolution which is a science that we have the MOST evidence for it occuring, I just find it Ironic lol. But I am glad your country teachs it in Public schools so that gives me hope that your country will not turn into those other middle east countires were religon retards its progress.
wowamonn 9 months ago
@wowamonn Look man, till now..no one gave me a clear evidence for evolution..On the contrary, all evolutionists are avoiding this point..and give me some fossils that related to Apes and chimps..what's the evidence that these fossils are for another creature and don't belong to early chimp? the answer is zero..no evidence..no body is sure that we actually had a common ancestor..only claims..but nothing is confirmed..and all similarities don't introduce an evidence !
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax Well unfortuantly you have never visited a Natural History Museaum were thousands of fossial are stored or on display that clearly show our pre-human ancestors so regardless of what you think these fossils exist and this tells us that we were not created by any god. Why did the Arab god revel himself to Arabs and not to your people during the time of the Pharoahs? Dont you think that is strange?
wowamonn 9 months ago
@wowamonn No..in our religion..Nobody saw God..Never..but as for the pharaohs; God sent Joseph and Moses (PBUT), and in Qur'an God tells us that he will not punish any unbeliever as long as he didn't send him a messenger. So for example, Siberians, live in a remote area, and don't have any technologies..so they can't obtain knowledge..So God will not punish them whatever they do, because they don't know what he wants them to behave like..!
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax Quran is NOT the word of a god so it carries no weight in your arguments. It is not holy its just a book written by men who lived in the middle east but not from a diety.
wowamonn 9 months ago
@wowamonn Alright, it's normal you say so..but what did these men gain from that?...but look to any religion that man made it by himself..like Hinduism..you will find that they put sex as a part of their rituals..Buddhism : you pray for an idol of Buddha.. but in Islam, what does God want you to do?..All are good things..what did Muhammed (PBUH) gain? nothing ! he was oppressed and opposed..They tried to kill him..
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax So what if sex is part of some Hindu rituals? So what if some people pray to idols in thier religon it is THIER religon. Mohammed created Islam based on his tribal god, infused it with some christian and jewish teachings, and then declared that this was a revelation of his god but when you read the Quran from a non-relgious bias it is quiet obvious that the book is very silly and primitive with a mix of stories and myths from the old jewish and christian teachings and dogma.
wowamonn 9 months ago
@wowamonn It's obvious that they put these things to gain something out of it..but Mohammed (PBUH) fought and faced a lot of hardships for what? only for God...And it's obvious that you get your knowledge without any reading; because Arab worshiped idols..so how come that he created Islam and based it on his tribal god !?..I don't think you ever read the Qur'an..try to read it first please..and about its similarities with Jewish and Christian dogmas because all of them from the same God !!!
CaesarDicax 8 months ago
@CaesarDicax No, my friend why would the Jewsih god reveal this ' holy ' book to Arabs? Mohammed had an agenda and he used this infusion of jewish and christian myths to spread his twisted form of religon. Hey do you believe that Jesus was born for a virgin birth?
wowamonn 8 months ago
@wowamonn What agendas? and seriously..tell me what did Muhammed (PBUH) gained? tell me !...and of course i believe that Jesus was born for a virgin birth
CaesarDicax 8 months ago
@CaesarDicax Guess what, the book of Matthew where the story is told was a fullfillment of a ' prophecy ' found in the book of Isaiah. In the book of Isaiah it states that child would be born to a young maiden, Matthew used the word virgin instead of young maiden. Evan if you read the book of Isaiah the context of the story says nothing of a redemer being born. So billions of folks have come to believe this story of jesus which was based on a simple mistranslation of a single word.
wowamonn 8 months ago
@wowamonn Guess what, it's also familiar with the story of Horus the Egyptian sun god...but that doesn't prove anything..and as for the bible..we _Muslims_ believe that many chapters were written afterwords and there are many many mistakes in translations from Latin..Our knowledge is based on Qur'an only !
CaesarDicax 8 months ago
@CaesarDicax The original translations of the gospels including the book of Matthew was in Greek, not Latin. Therefore the mistake was made in the original Greek. Matthew was not a very good Hebrew translator. Theofore the asseration still stands the error was carried over into your belifs and now you muslims inherited the mistake.
wowamonn 8 months ago
@wowamonn OMG..what have i just said?..we believe only in Qur'an..but unlike christians _as they look upon the old testament_ we see that both the old and the new testaments are full of many mistakes..But that doesn't mean they are totally wrong !
CaesarDicax 8 months ago
@CaesarDicax " we believe only in Qur'an "
My freind the Quran is NOT a Holy book it is a fradulent version of Christian and jewish belifs evan the ex-muslims whom I talk to at work say the Mohammed stole these ideas and infused them in his tribal religon.
wowamonn 8 months ago
@wowamonn Don't build your believes upon others' !..you search by yourself..and no..Qur'an is holy..as the bible and the Gospel ..They are all from one God..that's why they talk about the same principles !..That doesn't make any sense; because the source is the same !..Read this book :" Muhammad: A Biography of the Prophet (1991)"..by Karen Armstrong !
CaesarDicax 8 months ago
@CaesarDicax " That doesn't make any sense; because the source is the same !.."
No, its not the same, because divine messages are not given to humans from gods because they dont exist friend
wowamonn 8 months ago
@wowamonn "No, its not the same, because divine messages are not given to humans from gods because they dont exist friend" >>> that's true they don't exist because there is only one God..so how do you think the world come?
CaesarDicax 8 months ago
@CaesarDicax Google big bang then read serveral artcicles on the Hypothosis then post but make sure you understand the argument. Let me ask you this were did your god come from was he created?
wowamonn 8 months ago
@wowamonn I read about it a lot before..but as for God..he wasn't created..he is the creator..unlike bible..we muslims don't give God human qualities or weakness..he is omnipotent...but the big bang doesn't give a clue itself..what's the origin according to your point of view...BTW check this in youtube : "Ex-atheist Romanian Girl Accepts Islam because of the Miracle of the Big Bang in the Quran"
CaesarDicax 8 months ago
@CaesarDicax Er..... That video of the Romanian Girl was a hoax I actually have a sub to her. Her name is
ZONGitsCriss and she has tons of videos making fun of all religons on youtube go check her out. The Arab god was not created? Then how did the Arab god come in to existance?
wowamonn 8 months ago
@wowamonn Man, you can't apply human qualities upon God !..He is the Alpha and the Omega; nothing was before him and nothing is after..he is the One..and BTW..there is no Arab God and Asian God and etc..There is only one God Allah..and the word God in Arabic is Allah..so we worship him..and there is nothing bad in that...he doesn't order us to do any wrong !..away from fanatics..Moderate Muslims represents the true religion !
CaesarDicax 8 months ago
@CaesarDicax " Man, you can't apply human qualities upon God "
Then why does the Arab god behaviour just like human? With human emotions. In fact if I did not know better the Arab god seems almost man made!!
wowamonn 8 months ago
@CaesarDicax Hey my freind I foud a really cool video you would like I just saved it to my channel go check out my page its playing now.
wowamonn 8 months ago
@CaesarDicax Actually only religion - specifically Islam - gives human characteristics to God....Emotions such as anger, vanity, jealously and an occasional psychotic tendencies....What we already know about the universe makes a complete mockery of all bronze age religious texts....The Quran being the pinnacle of outdated, 6th century superstitions.
rogan71 8 months ago
@CaesarDicax all that alpha n omega bullshit.. now lets talk about evidence.. show me one evidence of god..or yur allah outside the book??? dont say book is the evidence cuz that is just horse shit...bring me evidence n i can show you evidence of evolution put in different catagories... FOSSILS, DNA, HUMAN GENOME, CARBON DATING etc etc.
chinamanspeakenlis 8 months ago
@chinamanspeakenlis Just talk in a decent way without insults and i will answer you..if not so no talking with you !
CaesarDicax 8 months ago
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wowamonn 8 months ago
@CaesarDicax By the way I dont think you understand my comments. You tried to equate my last comment about Mary to that of the birth of Horus, your peoples ancient sun god, but that was not my point my point was that this is a well known mistake attributed to the write of the book of Matthew in using the wrong word from Hebrew to Greek.
wowamonn 8 months ago
@wowamonn I see..but what i meant that maybe he wrote something wrong..but maybe he translated from a different source !
CaesarDicax 8 months ago
@CaesarDicax No,The writer of Matthew did not know the diffrence between a young maiden and virgin in Hebrew so when he wrote his gospel in greek he used the wrong word that is how the belief of Mary being a virgin when she gave birth to Jesus of Nazereth begun.
wowamonn 8 months ago
@wowamonn check this : oneummah.net/quran/
CaesarDicax 8 months ago
@wowamonn and when he became powerful they came to him and asked him what would he do with them..he said..Go, you are free..after about 22 years of wars with him and killing his companions and treachery !!..so what? is he a liar? noooooooo..he ordered us to be better..please read this..and don't ignore reading it..read it and you will know everything : 4shared.com/document/wlhvQhZ5/The_Life_of_the_Prophet_Muhamm.html
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@wowamonn Look,even if you don't believe in God.Read the Qur'an,what is so bad in it for that degree?Western media tend to deform us,Its roots are so ancient, since crusades.I think maybe our struggle with zionist Israel made them do so,but the point is.you will find many Islam haters and the funny thing that they read about Islam on the internet,where anyone can claim anything.but for better reading.read for people who lived for writing about the subject like:Washington Irving& Karin Armstrong
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax Islam is a hoax friend it is not based on revalations but on a fraud if you can just only open your eyes you will see this a not through the interpretations of your teachers.
wowamonn 9 months ago
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@wowamonn This led him to conclude that there is a fundamental genetic
difference between the species of about 5 percent
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax " This led him to conclude that there is a fundamental genetic
difference between the species of about 5 percent "
Yes, that is why its called a diffrent species. Since you like doing do research why dont you look at my Subs one is called WhyEvolutionistrue it has alot of shows that explain the basic workings of Evolution. By the way I know a few mulims that accept Evolution and still believe in a god. They just dont take the Quran literally.
wowamonn 9 months ago
@wowamonn Look man, i believe in Evolution but in a limited degree..And of course in no way concerning humans..I know some things are true and with evidences..For example, i know that horses were poly-dactyl..Why?..because we have fossils for "Horses"..But we don't have the same in human case..We have either the skeletons of Chimps or Humans..but there is no way that there is a single fossil for the alleged ancestor and it beyond doubt..Unlike horses !
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax We have lots of fossils of out pre-human ancestors. The problem is that you get your information from religous sites or books that distort the Theory of Evolution by Natural selection.
wowamonn 9 months ago
@wowamonn No, i don't take knowledge from Islamic sites..to tell the truth..they don't introduce enough evidences..but as for my knowledge about evolution..i read for Ricahard Dawkins : God delusion and the greatest show..and i criticized the first one and sent him the criticism in a wordpad file..but he didn't answer till now !..I studied excavations in Gobi desert, Baluchestan and in Cairo; but there is no evidence of a common ancestor..no way to tell !!!
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax " but there is no evidence..My dog has a more similar skeleton than these fossils..Come on, It's way big the gap between man and chimp.. "
A dog has a protruding face, narrow skull. The socket is at the back of the head for the spinal cord to be attached no eye ridge, small nasal cavity, no vocal bones in the throat. And you want to copare a dog bone to that of hominds. In your comments there is a lot of words but no substance.
wowamonn 9 months ago
@wowamonn I will send you messages because comments are so limited and i need to write a lot of separate ones :D
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
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@CaesarDicax "you cn defeat me by giving me the evidence and i will renounce religion right now !"
Apes have 24 chromosome pairs and we have 23 pairs. Human chromosome 2 is a fusion of two ape chromosomes. It even has the telomeres (the parts at the ends) in the middle of the chromosome. Why would we have two fused chimpanzee chromosomes in us if we weren't descended from a common ancestor?
cidvisions 7 months ago
@CaesarDicax That is silliest thing I ever heard you actually beieve in the existance of gods? Snf you actually beieve that a god gave you his veiws in a book called the Quran? Wow I had no idea you believed in myths.
wowamonn 9 months ago
@wowamonn Myths? so tell me how did you come to existence ?
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax Our species Evolved. Can you tell me where your god came from?
wowamonn 9 months ago
@wowamonn Our species evolved?..what's the proof? some people said that so you follow?..and my God is the creator of all things..he is only one..the Alpha and the Omega..can you even realize the nature of your soul?..you ask about God?..He is the creator..He is always there..Unlike the concept of christianity, God has no son or wife..everything will perish except himself..He is not alive nor dead, because you can't even apply human measures upon him..your concept of God is so shallow !!!!
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax " your concept of God is so shallow !!!! "
Please provide evidence for the existance of a god.
wowamonn 9 months ago
@wowamonn Everything in the world must have a creator so are we !
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax Very weak assertion. By the way are you an Arab or a desendant of the the native Egyptians?
wowamonn 9 months ago
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CaesarDicax 9 months ago
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@wowamonn Why very weak? everything must have a creator..there is a rule in science : nihil ex nihilo est..nothing comes out of nothing..I believe in The omnipotent God..but you believe in what? chance? Self_catalyst? ...
I really don't know if i 'm of Arab origin or Egyptian !!...Many nationalities live in Egypt through times..but i have Caucasian features..Brown hair, white skin...etc !
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax By the way I did not flag your comments someone must have.
wowamonn 9 months ago
@wowamonn I know...you are a polite person :D
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@wowamonn Look, search about the whole matter very well..I swear God exists..It's your life don't waste it for no reason..there is nothing God orders you to do and it is a bad thing.Look in the Qur'an_Unlike the common image_ we don't have the killing penalty for apostasy as haters say.if somebody argues with you in that..ask him to give you this verse in Qur'an that states so.Muhammed (PBUH) didn't marry Aisha when she was 6 years old as they say..He didn't kill innocents, he defended his state
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@wowamonn watch?v=6wgKakuoyIQ&feature=related
watch?v=xGbynOi9tIY&feature=related
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax I tried, but the link is not working.
wowamonn 9 months ago
@wowamonn after youtube.com/watch?v=6wgKakuoyIQ&feature=related
youtube.com/watch?v=xGbynOi9tIY&feature=related
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax I will watch the vidoes but the links are not working just post the titles and i will check em out
wowamonn 9 months ago
@wowamonn I can give you scientific proofs from the Qur'an that it's the word of God..Muhamed (PBUH) was illiterate..and many scientific verses give any body with vision a clear concept that it is the word of God ..if you want some i 'll give you many proofs :D
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax " was illiterate..and many scientific verses give any body with vision a clear concept that it is the word of God ..if you want some i 'll give you many proofs :D "
I have read them all my freind many, many, muslims have used the SAME argument when debating with me. It is sad that this nonsense is still taught in the Arab world. Please google sceintific miracles debunked in the Quran because it seems you never had a chance to read these articles.
wowamonn 9 months ago
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@wowamonn BTW..you will not find any muslim tells you how God looks like !..because we don't know..we know that this world was made by a Great Creator..And this world didn't come out of nothing or by chance or by a single cell..and If it was by a single cell..so who made it?
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@wowamonn I did my friend...this is not my first time to debate in such cases..Ok..You know what !.they manipulate with words..and the funny thing that they even don't know Arabic..But they lie..and i can prove that to you..just pick any miracle and its "Refutation" and i will counter that :D
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax Coming from n Egytian I find funny that you defend the religon of your conquerors
wowamonn 9 months ago
@wowamonn Do you know that AIDS first appeared in Monkeys and then was transferred to humans..and that is a recent thing..the retro viruse proves one thing that there are many diseases are common between man and chimp.."Common Disease" not "Common Ancestor" !
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax Aids is a active virus it is not a Retro virus. I am beginning to suspect you never studied biology or have a minimum understanding of how biology works. Why dont you google or find on youtube vidoes on ERV's (retro viruses) and try to understand the evidence for common ancestory.Your god would not mind if you do this in fact I am pretty sure he/she will want you to investigate this evidence.
wowamonn 9 months ago
@wowamonn I 'm giving an Example..and BTW they are both viruses !..I studied biology but not in college
check this please : (h)ttp://95.211.11.218/download/06/21/df084b3ace5ef132d672d202d353382b/evolution_20_questions.zip
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax Sigh.....I am not sure what you where you got your information but Evolution by Natural Selection is a fact and this has been proven by the the fossils of our ancestors that are on display in Natutural Museums around the world. It has been comfirmed by studying the genetic code. Also what do you mean they are both virus? HIV is the virus is the virus causes aids you are confusing an active virus with ERVs are not active. Stop getting your information from creationist websites.
wowamonn 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax
I suggest you get a simple book on evolution, at least you would understand the basics without asking silly questions.
You
You should know the argument before trying to debunk it.
These two books are quite easy to read, and don't require high school education:
1. The Greatest Show on Earth: The Evidence for Evolution Richard Dawkins
2. Why Evolution Is True by Jerry A. Coyne
saintpine 9 months ago
@saintpine Actually i read that book of Richard Dawkins..and i can tell you it sucks..the man doesn't give you anything...he "claims"...but doesn't prove anything...Look pal..if i told you Einstein was Wrong..you can post so many evidences that he was not..and that's true..because he was not..but Darwin? seriously? people plz..get a life !
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax "Actually i read that book of Richard Dawkins..and i can tell you it sucks..the man doesn't give you anything...he "claims"..."
Don't talk bullshit, your silly and ridiculous questions you've been asking all over is sufficient proof that you have never opened a book about evolution, or you slept on it.
Get and education, learn something about what you are trying to debunk, otherwise you will become the laughing stock of YouTube.
saintpine 9 months ago
@saintpine I think "the laughing stock of YouTube." is you..because you can't prove the shit out of it..accept it man..You lose !
CaesarDicax 9 months ago
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@CaesarDicax " I think "the laughing stock of YouTube." is you..because you can't prove the shit out of it..accept it man..You lose !"
If it makes you happy believing this, go ahead, it doesn't cause me any harm.
You are not interested in the truth, you have already made up your mind, due to fear or whatever, your fairy tale Allah is more important than the truth for you.
You indoctrination program was a great success, well done.
saintpine 9 months ago
@CaesarDicax
2. what Dawkins thinks about Harun Yahya.
watch?v=xn4ACWR0aag&feature=related
saintpine 9 months ago
PLEASE keep debunking that psychopathic toad harun yahya. He is poisoning minds with his crap. Unfortunately many muslims buy into his bullshit...
kusalaviro 11 months ago
you're not debu