@RedTanyaa It is not horrible. Those men are doing nothing wrong. They are screaming yeah so they can prick their ears forward and look pretty. They are not heartless. Read what i read above and stop being illeterate because its starting to piss me off how people like you just naturally assume its abuse.
i sorry but how can ue ride sumfing with a neck tht short and a back tht long tht goes around with its tail in a brace and with its knee action being tht high they look horrible to sit on and they dont really look ryt but thts probaly all ue do on those horses
but do they jump coz it dosnt look lyk theyv been thought to
@TheLionCub808 There is nothing wrong with the natural build of the horse. It can jump like any other horse, and it is gaited so it is actually really smooth to ride. However, I definitely dont like how the owner broke it's tail so it would stand up like that, and I don't like how they put weights on it's feet so it would pick them up. It looks and is very unnatural for the horse to prance in that way and I believe it is abuse, all for the sake of show. Blame the human, not the horse.
@silverfoxraven94 its not unnatural. The pads just help the horse. It's like human using weights to gain muscle. and they don't cut the tail. They cut a tendon which helps relax the tail. and bracing does not hurt the horse all. its not abuse because if it was we would be in trouble. And its not prancing. Its called a show trot. Please look up your information before you go accusing people of stuff they don't do
Ya I wondered about the tail as well. Horses actually can't hold their tails straight up in the air like that. How do they do this? I sure hope they weren't so cruel as to break them and cut them off. Horses should have tails!!
@kimmerkm These horses still have their tails, dont worry. They also have full function of their tails aswell. What keeps their tails up like that is called a brace. It cradles the tail up like that and then the tail falls over the top of the brace. Saddlebreds have very flexible tails like Arabs so there is no pain to the brace or anything. I hope this clears things up. =) -Melina
The rider is in complete control of that horse, and it's a beautiful thing to watch! He makes it look so easy. Anyone who's ever ridden a really nice show horse know's it's very difficult - the athleticism of the trot and the spring involved would be unpleasant for the average rider. But a great rider like this one moves with and directs the horse at the same time. It's like an elaborate dance - the tango for instance - and the rider is leading! It's thrilling! Thanks for sharing!
Jast a thought- the rider's coat sets behind the saddle and gives the appearance to people who don't ride saddleseat (ss) that the rider's seat is farther back than it really is. That said, I ride ss, dressage and hunt- it is absolutely true that a ss rider must sit farther back to allow the horse to use its shoulder freely. Look at the slope of the shoulder. The horse is forward, not exhibiting pain. Dress and hs riders must look at the horse- don't try to make it a sport horse when it isn't.
And also, it is quite funny that people are picking on this man's position. For those of you who know me or who I am that's my trainer. And he's speaking at the USEF convention in January about riding so those of you who apprecaite his riding style, you know what you're talking about!
I'm glad that you think he is nice! Did you know his owner rides Stonecroft I'm Radiant and won at the Royal this year? She is going to have Jimmy keep showing Nightlight until he's sold I think. I just love him! He's got so much personality and prescence in and out of the showring :) We all just adore him!
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Oh you mean like the way some owners have their tails reset? If it were that bad they wouldnt do it? IT IS FUCKING BAD, ITS CRUEL AND INHUMANE! ALL FOR FASHION!
calm down first off, jesus. and not everyone does that. secondly saddle breds already naturally carry their heads, tails, and feet high like arabians so its not like their making a quarter horse do it. its really not bad, and deff. no worse than soring TWH, or putting acid on jumpers legs.
Oh yeah dont get me wrong its not as bad as how they treat TWH! I still dont like the tail reset thing that some people do and i dont think sitting on their loins does them any good, regardless of breed
well i know, and the tail resetting really is NOT bad. they do it 2 arabians too sometimes. and alot of other breeds. but they arent sitting on their loins. for some reson ive found that trainers sit farther back than other ppl. cause no one i know sits that far back.
That's weird, because at the stables I go to, there are lesson horses which are Morgans and Saddlebreds in their upper 20's-lower 30's all of which got very far in showing, yet they're just as perky and healthy as they were 20 years ago. What part of "THEY WERE BRED THAT WAY" don't you understand?
i dont care how they were bred! Why would that make a difference? It wouldnt. Riding on their loins and especially at the young age they start these horses at is detrimental, simple as.
Um well it would be VERY different if they were using quarter horses now wouldn't it! And they DONT sit on their loins!! They just sit farther back in the saddle than hunt seat. I don't sit back nearly as much as that guy.
well thats fine then, the guy in the video is sitting to far back, i accept that not all riders of these horses will sit as far back and to them riders, carry on im sure your doing a fine job- just please try to leave them till they are at least 3 before riding them :) But no it wouldnt make a difference what breed it was.
Yep he was. I've come to find that trainers tend to ride weird. lol. And yeah they are started to be trained the same time as all the other horses. And when I said it would be different I didn't mean because he was sitting far back I ment that it would put alot more strain on something like a Quarter horse because they are buily wayy differently than saddlebreds, morgans and arabians are.
I think you are getting racing horses confused with show horses. There are ABSOLUTELY NO CLASSES for a two year old under saddle.When a young horse starts out they get trained to drive first.Saddle work doesn't begin until they reach 3 years of age.I'm not sure who has educated you, but your comments are futile and attacking.And to repeat, if a person were to ride on a horses loins the saddle would have to be around the barrel.
im sorry have you never seen a horse riden before? If not then your ignorance is excused. But please do look at pictures of horses and riders in say show jumping, look where the riders sit and you can see the difference.
Wrong. The correct sitting position on a show Saddlebred is determined by the horse himself. He carries his neck set back, and his shoulder sports a terrific slope: to be out of the way of his incredible elevation, the rider has to sit further back. When actually mounted on a Saddlebred one immediately feels that he requires you to sit further back, and when he moves his motion demands it.
No. Usually the horse as a yearling starts off long-lining which teaches collection and developes muscles. Also teaching voice commands.
Then usually comes harness training which does the same thing as long-lining except they can now work in straighter lines and at a greater speed than in the long-lines.
They are usually showed in-hand and driving first! THEN at age 3 begin being trained under saddle. They're usually shown under saddle around age 4 by a trainer.
saddleseat is different from huntseat. I ride both. In huntseat you have a more forward position but in saddleseat you sit back in the very back of your saddle. Helps balance the weight, expecially at the canter.
they do have 2 year old classes. We have a seven year old horse at our barn that was shown when he was two. That class you can show the horse in work tack considering they are young. well actually i've even seen people start training a yearling so its not rare.
hes sitting back on the horse so the horse can look bigger. hes not hurting the horse in any way. look up ur facts before you accuse people of abuse. I ride saddleseat. I have a five year old saddlebred and he loves what he does. a lot of them do. so don't judge
let me give you some education as to what it means to SIT ON THE HORSES LOINS.first of all, it's virtually impossible! in order for a rider to SIT ON THE HORSES LOINS, the girth would be around the horses barrel. as you know (at least i hope you do), the saddle would not stay secure and the rider would fall off. the saddle is usually 21-22 inches and sits securely on the horses back right at the withers. your attack is bogus and is merely speculative.
This is not Tre Lee this is Jim Lowry. And I do not belive that guys are taught to ride more forward as headbanger3285 said, because there are many male equtation riders. I do believe alot of trainers have a more forward seat because they are use to breaking colts and need to stay leaned forward incase they rear up.
@RedTanyaa It is not horrible. Those men are doing nothing wrong. They are screaming yeah so they can prick their ears forward and look pretty. They are not heartless. Read what i read above and stop being illeterate because its starting to piss me off how people like you just naturally assume its abuse.
horselvr22 3 months ago
i sorry but how can ue ride sumfing with a neck tht short and a back tht long tht goes around with its tail in a brace and with its knee action being tht high they look horrible to sit on and they dont really look ryt but thts probaly all ue do on those horses
but do they jump coz it dosnt look lyk theyv been thought to
TheLionCub808 10 months ago
@TheLionCub808 Its actually really confortable, especially on walkers !
vivienleigh1097 9 months ago
@TheLionCub808 There is nothing wrong with the natural build of the horse. It can jump like any other horse, and it is gaited so it is actually really smooth to ride. However, I definitely dont like how the owner broke it's tail so it would stand up like that, and I don't like how they put weights on it's feet so it would pick them up. It looks and is very unnatural for the horse to prance in that way and I believe it is abuse, all for the sake of show. Blame the human, not the horse.
silverfoxraven94 5 months ago
@silverfoxraven94 its not unnatural. The pads just help the horse. It's like human using weights to gain muscle. and they don't cut the tail. They cut a tendon which helps relax the tail. and bracing does not hurt the horse all. its not abuse because if it was we would be in trouble. And its not prancing. Its called a show trot. Please look up your information before you go accusing people of stuff they don't do
horselvr22 3 months ago
O_______O ihan kamalan näköstä.....so horrible.....
herkkupossukka 11 months ago
I don't like this,just saying!
matildaislikecool 1 year ago
Ya I wondered about the tail as well. Horses actually can't hold their tails straight up in the air like that. How do they do this? I sure hope they weren't so cruel as to break them and cut them off. Horses should have tails!!
kimmerkm 1 year ago
@kimmerkm These horses still have their tails, dont worry. They also have full function of their tails aswell. What keeps their tails up like that is called a brace. It cradles the tail up like that and then the tail falls over the top of the brace. Saddlebreds have very flexible tails like Arabs so there is no pain to the brace or anything. I hope this clears things up. =) -Melina
PunkstarsGD 1 year ago
why are their tails so stiff? It's like they can't swish their tailes or even relax them. it's cool to watch...but the tail thing is distracting.
KnightHawke01 1 year ago
Beautiful horse!!
dcmgypsy 2 years ago
Ahhhh! It's Jimmy!
PhilG380 3 years ago
The rider is in complete control of that horse, and it's a beautiful thing to watch! He makes it look so easy. Anyone who's ever ridden a really nice show horse know's it's very difficult - the athleticism of the trot and the spring involved would be unpleasant for the average rider. But a great rider like this one moves with and directs the horse at the same time. It's like an elaborate dance - the tango for instance - and the rider is leading! It's thrilling! Thanks for sharing!
highhorse313 3 years ago 2
Jast a thought- the rider's coat sets behind the saddle and gives the appearance to people who don't ride saddleseat (ss) that the rider's seat is farther back than it really is. That said, I ride ss, dressage and hunt- it is absolutely true that a ss rider must sit farther back to allow the horse to use its shoulder freely. Look at the slope of the shoulder. The horse is forward, not exhibiting pain. Dress and hs riders must look at the horse- don't try to make it a sport horse when it isn't.
cchs36 3 years ago
wow thats amazing!! he is really nice tho, to bad i dont ride ASB :C
sgtbadmouth 3 years ago
And also, it is quite funny that people are picking on this man's position. For those of you who know me or who I am that's my trainer. And he's speaking at the USEF convention in January about riding so those of you who apprecaite his riding style, you know what you're talking about!
lowrygirl001 3 years ago
i totaly agree with aznssaywhaat about the posion of the rider and that is a really nice horse!!! and he trots evenly on all 4's!
XxbellewetherxX 3 years ago
I'm glad that you think he is nice! Did you know his owner rides Stonecroft I'm Radiant and won at the Royal this year? She is going to have Jimmy keep showing Nightlight until he's sold I think. I just love him! He's got so much personality and prescence in and out of the showring :) We all just adore him!
lowrygirl001 3 years ago
this looks like bob batagalia
firered6200 3 years ago
now in some shows people are showing 2 year olds under saddle. but it isn't realy popular.
faith6307 3 years ago
this takes real skill and loyalty for horse and rider.
I did saddle seat and its nerve breaking.
but, simply wonderful.
Narutoedge 3 years ago
Okay everybody needs to like chill-- that was a great ride! and a nice horse! and a great representative of REAL horsebackriding and a nice show!
saddlebredlove824 3 years ago
although rider at 138 looks okay
happyhunter1 3 years ago
Add more show footage people!!! Support the Saddlebred!!!
4E8S8D6 3 years ago 2
wenn ich meinem Pferd auf der Lende sitze und nicht auf dem vorderen Teil des Rückens dann ist es das eben doch...
Saegola 3 years ago
so schlecht und hirnlos hab ich noch niemanden reiten sehen. Tierquälerei gepaart mit Dummheit ergibt sowas - F**** off
Saegola 4 years ago
das hat nix mit schlecht reiten zu tun, das is eben nur ne andere reitweise....
Stogadis 3 years ago
Yeah sit on the horses loins, great one! Sick f***s!
happyhunter1 4 years ago
umm...happyhunter, dumbass, they sit farther back to allow the horse to go at its natural movement the best. if it was bad they wouldnt do it.
Taliaa070 4 years ago
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Oh you mean like the way some owners have their tails reset? If it were that bad they wouldnt do it? IT IS FUCKING BAD, ITS CRUEL AND INHUMANE! ALL FOR FASHION!
happyhunter1 4 years ago
calm down first off, jesus. and not everyone does that. secondly saddle breds already naturally carry their heads, tails, and feet high like arabians so its not like their making a quarter horse do it. its really not bad, and deff. no worse than soring TWH, or putting acid on jumpers legs.
Taliaa070 4 years ago
Oh yeah dont get me wrong its not as bad as how they treat TWH! I still dont like the tail reset thing that some people do and i dont think sitting on their loins does them any good, regardless of breed
happyhunter1 4 years ago
well i know, and the tail resetting really is NOT bad. they do it 2 arabians too sometimes. and alot of other breeds. but they arent sitting on their loins. for some reson ive found that trainers sit farther back than other ppl. cause no one i know sits that far back.
Taliaa070 4 years ago
this maybe so, but it is still detrimental for future life
happyhunter1 3 years ago
That's weird, because at the stables I go to, there are lesson horses which are Morgans and Saddlebreds in their upper 20's-lower 30's all of which got very far in showing, yet they're just as perky and healthy as they were 20 years ago. What part of "THEY WERE BRED THAT WAY" don't you understand?
Taliaa070 3 years ago
i dont care how they were bred! Why would that make a difference? It wouldnt. Riding on their loins and especially at the young age they start these horses at is detrimental, simple as.
happyhunter1 3 years ago
Um well it would be VERY different if they were using quarter horses now wouldn't it! And they DONT sit on their loins!! They just sit farther back in the saddle than hunt seat. I don't sit back nearly as much as that guy.
Taliaa070 3 years ago
well thats fine then, the guy in the video is sitting to far back, i accept that not all riders of these horses will sit as far back and to them riders, carry on im sure your doing a fine job- just please try to leave them till they are at least 3 before riding them :) But no it wouldnt make a difference what breed it was.
happyhunter1 3 years ago
Yep he was. I've come to find that trainers tend to ride weird. lol. And yeah they are started to be trained the same time as all the other horses. And when I said it would be different I didn't mean because he was sitting far back I ment that it would put alot more strain on something like a Quarter horse because they are buily wayy differently than saddlebreds, morgans and arabians are.
Taliaa070 3 years ago
oh okay fair enough
happyhunter1 3 years ago
I think you are getting racing horses confused with show horses. There are ABSOLUTELY NO CLASSES for a two year old under saddle.When a young horse starts out they get trained to drive first.Saddle work doesn't begin until they reach 3 years of age.I'm not sure who has educated you, but your comments are futile and attacking.And to repeat, if a person were to ride on a horses loins the saddle would have to be around the barrel.
sjrobbins0201 3 years ago
the rider is sitting to far back, im sorry but its true. And yes many people do start these horses at two, not all but sme do.
happyhunter1 3 years ago
ok. and if you're judging the class, where would you like to see the rider sit? i'm confused by sitting too far back?
sjrobbins0201 3 years ago
im sorry have you never seen a horse riden before? If not then your ignorance is excused. But please do look at pictures of horses and riders in say show jumping, look where the riders sit and you can see the difference.
happyhunter1 3 years ago
Wrong. The correct sitting position on a show Saddlebred is determined by the horse himself. He carries his neck set back, and his shoulder sports a terrific slope: to be out of the way of his incredible elevation, the rider has to sit further back. When actually mounted on a Saddlebred one immediately feels that he requires you to sit further back, and when he moves his motion demands it.
aznssaywhaat 3 years ago
No. Usually the horse as a yearling starts off long-lining which teaches collection and developes muscles. Also teaching voice commands.
Then usually comes harness training which does the same thing as long-lining except they can now work in straighter lines and at a greater speed than in the long-lines.
They are usually showed in-hand and driving first! THEN at age 3 begin being trained under saddle. They're usually shown under saddle around age 4 by a trainer.
aznssaywhaat 3 years ago
saddleseat is different from huntseat. I ride both. In huntseat you have a more forward position but in saddleseat you sit back in the very back of your saddle. Helps balance the weight, expecially at the canter.
Saddleseatlover 3 years ago
they do have 2 year old classes. We have a seven year old horse at our barn that was shown when he was two. That class you can show the horse in work tack considering they are young. well actually i've even seen people start training a yearling so its not rare.
horselvr22 2 years ago
hes sitting back on the horse so the horse can look bigger. hes not hurting the horse in any way. look up ur facts before you accuse people of abuse. I ride saddleseat. I have a five year old saddlebred and he loves what he does. a lot of them do. so don't judge
horselvr22 2 years ago
let me give you some education as to what it means to SIT ON THE HORSES LOINS.first of all, it's virtually impossible! in order for a rider to SIT ON THE HORSES LOINS, the girth would be around the horses barrel. as you know (at least i hope you do), the saddle would not stay secure and the rider would fall off. the saddle is usually 21-22 inches and sits securely on the horses back right at the withers. your attack is bogus and is merely speculative.
sjrobbins0201 3 years ago
very pretty!!!
Taliaa070 4 years ago
This is not Tre Lee this is Jim Lowry. And I do not belive that guys are taught to ride more forward as headbanger3285 said, because there are many male equtation riders. I do believe alot of trainers have a more forward seat because they are use to breaking colts and need to stay leaned forward incase they rear up.
walktrt 4 years ago
that is tre lee and guy's dnt ride up as far as women and we dnt sit up aas straight and that is the way all guys are taught to ride saddlebreds
headbanger3285 4 years ago
Wow he's gorgeous! He's got a great headset.
saddlebredlover13 4 years ago
why is he so far back on the horse's back??
beautiful animal:)
bellabelliboo 4 years ago
its saddleseat.. that's how a saddlebrd when being ridden saddleseat provides the most movement
saddlebredlove824 4 years ago
i ride saddleseat and ive never seen that, heard of that, or been told to do that,, lol./
Taliaa070 4 years ago
wait.. u ride saddleseat but sit far forward? that doesn't make sense
saddlebredlove824 4 years ago
i dont sit far forward,, i just dont sit that far back.
Taliaa070 4 years ago
ohh.. well u sit as far back as the horse needs.
saddlebredlove824 4 years ago
yepp lol. i guess thats how far back he needs.
Taliaa070 4 years ago
Nice!!!!!! How a Three-Gaited hoss should look.....a winner in my book!
asb4life 4 years ago 2
i agree!
saddlebredlove824 4 years ago