In a society where abortion is illegal, we would have much less teenage pregnancy. If no one got pregnant when they weren't prepared for a baby, we would not have this problem in the 1st place.
These guys opinons mean nothing. No one word. They're all Faags and comminist bastards. Water carriers for the super rulers, my relatives. They work for my royalist family an i don't aprove. All liberals are insane an are easily bought. Chris can't think about nothing but the nut sack in his mouth.
Men controlling women. Ladies, are you fools? Men have controlled you using, violence, guilt, politics and religion. Death is death! Illness, accident, age, and murder are all death. Ladies, it is your life, and your bodies. Do I have the right to control your bodies? If you have an unwanted pregnancy, do they provide for the child's life and college? Are you fools? Men control you with lies. You use lies to survive. There is everything wrong with that. Girl Power!
That in not true. Women used to abort using simple water and techniques. I am not talking about the 20th century. Please research the 19th century. Any right women have achieved has been through difficult, and often violent, resistance. You have your right to believe, why don't women have the right to choose? Men have decided what women do with their bodies
throughout history. If you have women on your
side of this issue, they have to play along or lose status.
From an evolutionary standpoint, men are SUPPOSED to have control over women. Humans are just like every other sexually dimorphic species. Do you ever wonder why men evolved to be bigger, stronger, smarter, and more aggressive than women?
Without male dominance, our birth rates plummet, as we are seeing today. Countries in which women have equal rights, like the U.S. or Sweden, have extremely low birth rates compared to countries in which they do not, like Sudan or Iran.
Men control using violence. That is part of the survival instinct. We have evolved into intelligent beings. Men react with violence to control. Women are more apt to discuss, before fighting. Women have to accept a position that allows hatred. I want women to be selective about their offspring. War is fear,
Your post made me laugh. Are you trying to write poetry?
It's been proven again and again that men are more intelligent than women. On the SAT test, men average about 40 points higher on math and about 10 points higher on verbal. On most IQ tests, men average about 3-5 points higher. Furthermore, the variance for men is much higher than it is for women. For instance, 2.23 times as many boys than girls scored an 800 on the math SAT.
Male statistics are a small percentage of the whole without SAT's. Women are entrusted with child rearing. Most men can not handle that stress. The men you point out got their intelligence from their mothers. Social conditioning has motivated current findings, based on what you share. Fear and insecurity prompt men to work harder to be better than women. Have you ever heard a woman say,"men are so dumb?" Women have acted dumb to survive. I meant no poetry. You want a poem? Respond.
thats true, I mean are species still go through sexual selection, exsplains why some women dont like short guys ect. Its all about who will have the better genes to propogate are species. Science, its a wonderful thing.
You stupid, sexist, ignorant pig! Men shouldn't control women and they aren't smarter! Bigger and stronger on average yes, but neither of those are everything.
4u2b1ib12 is right and is way smarter than you will ever be. SAT scores and IQ tests are BS and prove nothing.
Women are more independent now, like it or not. Even more freedom and being left alone won't cause birth-rates to go down, and even if they did...that wouldn't be so horrible, because the world is already over-populated.
And another thing, it doesn't matter what most animals do...we're different. We have more self -awareness and a sense of fairness and morality. Animals don't know better, but humans don't have to treat women like things and try to control them.
People like you are dying out, you'll never succeed. You've already lost, and your old-fashioned views will one day fade into nothing-- along with every last one of you.
@CaptVelocity actualty most mammals have morality sence of fairness and self-awareness. but still, aboriton happens in nature. wolfs when one of the non-alpha females gets pregnant is harased so hard that she loses the baby. this does not happen always but usualy it happens when food is rare. allso if you do it on religius grounds then bible has no proplem with abortion, it actualy commands it in many cases,
Pro choices are lucky that as a society we are far more compassionate then they were to their baby. Justice would be dragging the woman by her hair outside into a empty cold parking lot and executing her like an animal without a choice in the matter. The same choice they refused to give the baby. But thank god we believe in life.
No it wouldn't be justice. Choosing an unborn organism over people who are here already would be stupid. And if anyone tried to drag the woman out, I would break both of their arms and make sure they pee blood for a month.
No matter how much you would like to believe that a developing organism is the same as an infant, it will never be true.
the abortion industry is only about money...they dont care about women. In fact real women are pro life. Close your legs ladies...don't make the life growing in you pay for your irresponsibility!
Screw both of you. First, leeds you don't know all the details...and I'm sick of you pricks that say women deserve to be raped, suffer, whatever. You're all the same.
And where do you get off saying what "real women" want? Only the brainwashed fundies think abortion is murder. They pretty much never abort past three months.
By the way, pro-life is funny because most of them don't give a shit about them once they can survive on their own.
And it can't be proven that they're people with souls in the development stages. Oh and some them are raped, so your idea of "irresponsibility" is skewed. In any case, saying "clothes your legs" makes you sound like an ass. What, people can't have sex without giving birth just because you don't like it. Men should just use a damn condom and the women should have a pill with them as a pre-caution.
Honestly, quit trying to shove your religion down everyone's throat.
But what life does it have when it's most important development stages where it learns how to form healthy attachments are spent with the mother hating them. Infants can sense that anger towards them. and if the mother can't take care of them? there's to many kids in orphanages. maybe we should worry about what's already here and now then what might be.
"The pro-life position, as adopted by John McCain and Sarah Palin doesn't say women can't make those decisions" yes it does, you fucking idiot, typical Conservatard at it's finest.
DEMOCRAT VIEW: If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.
S. FAILIN'S VIEW: You staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state's school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant, you're considered VERY responsible.
RepubliCANTs are Pro-LIFE, Pro-War, Pro-Death Penalty, etc. Talk about a value system that's contradictory & an oxy-moron. LOL! ~W~
What is this guys point? ; he seems to think that turning it back to the states is OK ? There's a reason why states don't get to decide issues like slavery, discrimination and abortion. No one has the right to determine if I have a child, not the state or the Feds.
'if you believe in god, you must also believe in FREE WILL. '
Belief in free will doesn't mean I have to believe people should just be allowed to do whatever they want. You think rapists and murderers should be allowed to run free?
'Small-minded politicians in states with populations full of socially conservative, religious voters will subject their citizens to a loss of rights that others of us enjoy.'
Like the right to be born? Oh yeah -- we don't have that here anymore. It's getting more and more like China every day. People like you are destroying this country.
Why is it bad for nine lawyers in Washington to make your life decisions for you but it's good for some lawyers or politicians or religious voters in your state to do it instead? How is that better? Either way it's still someone else making your own decisions for you. Better to have the highest authority in the land give everyone the equal freedom to make their own decisions. Joe is dead wrong here. Palin's position isn't as he presents it.
are you serious buskerdog? i hope to god you are being sarcastic. you would rather have a disconnected fed. enforced america than the communities that you live in, that have a hands on understanding of its culture, make decisions..... i'm so sick of you liberal and right wing fucks.
Yes I'm serious. Just because an American is born in one state and not another should not prevent them from their rights. We are all Americans and we should all have the right to live our lives in ways that aren't harming others. Small-minded politicians in states with populations full of socially conservative, religious voters will subject their citizens to a loss of rights that others of us enjoy. That's not fair. That's not American.
(continued) I mean, what if Sarah Palin wanted other rights to be decided by the "communities" that know best what is right for their local residents? Free speech? Freedom of and from religion? Slavery? Segregation? etc... Sometimes having a federal authority that ensures that all Americans share the same fundamental rights is the only option.
it is time to be brave and return to america. it doesn't matter what/who we believe in when making an argument for states power. the federal gov. doesn't have the right to make the decisions that have been made and that is one of the reasons for such a disconnect in our culture. every form of gov. has its strengths but ours is the american spirit and ability to change within the fabrics given to us by our forefathers.if we don't know ourselves we are going down the slide like bloody birds.
So if the federal gov doesn't have the right to make those decisions, why does the state gov? If you value a more localized decision making process then why don't you see that what the supreme court has done is give the decision to the ultimate locality: The individual. The supreme court made it possible for you to make the decision that's right for you and has given everyone else that right equally. I don't want to live at the mercy of my state capital which isn't even where I live. Why do you?
it wasnt so much decided that abortions were right, just that it was the womans choice. everyone has their personal beliefes, and people should just respect that.
and consenting married and unmarried adults slip on C.S. i have to say that the right to choose an abortion should be between the woman,her husband(boyfriend), the doctor,and her conscience. i have no right to make any decision. neither does the church,the state, or the courts. if you believe in god, you must also believe in FREE WILL.
i wish that abortion as a practice didn't exist. i wish that all consenting adults used common sense (and birth control) before engaging in sex. and i wish that all teens in this mtv, fuse sex saturated world didn't have sex until after marriage and realize that sex is not a toy or a game but an action that produces consequences. BUT, i live in the real world and i believe that in a country where young people don't ask for parental permission.
when people believe in bible's god, even killing children becomes moral: Moses was angry with the officers of the army who returned from battle. "Have you allowed all the women to live? They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and turned the Israelites away from the LORD in what happened at Peor, so that a plague struck the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. [Num 31:14-18]
Way after the abortion deadline, it's not babykilling.
For crying out loud you conservative drama queens, talk about over acting and and playing up philosophical grey areas as an outright yes or no question.
Abortion (pre-child consciousness) is not baby killing, it is the halting of a chemical reaction that occurs between a sperm and an egg.
Why do you republicans want to live in a luddite-1984.
"When is a baby conscious of its own existence? Way after the abortion deadline, it's not babykilling." Not to mention, way after being BORN. Show me a newborn who is conscious of its own existence. Should the state FORCE its beliefs on mothers who just want to abort their newborns? How can the state take away this right?
What's next, a burka for all American women? Back to being barefoot and pregnant, kept so busy with household duties, as assigned by their master, that women don't have the time or energy left to fight for change.....hmmm, sounds like decades of courageous women fighting for equality just might have been in vain. Young women have taken for granted the rights that were achieved for them. I was there when girlfriends bled to death from coathanger abortions, or having babies then left in poverty.
There are different opinions on what constitutes life, b/c this is a pluralistic society. I don't know if I could ever go through with an abortion. But I wouldn't judge a woman if she did. We don't have the right to tell a woman what to do with her body. I appreciate your values regarding babies and life, but we can only live our lives as we see fit and we cannot judge others when they make choices. We aren't God and have no right to indicate that someone is a murderer or a sinner. Peace.
"There are different opinions on what constitutes life, b/c this is a pluralistic society." There are different opinions on what constitutes life, because people don't like science if it doesn't agree with them. An unborn child has his/her own cell structure, his/her own DNA distinct from the mother, he/she has the 46 chromosomes that he/she will have for the rest of life, and he/she is clearly a distinct organism from the mother. So, what arguments are there that an unborn is not alive?
Dear God help us all if these two win. Conservatism is the result of poor parenting. Women have the right to choose. Pro-lifers may consciously care about a fetus but unconsciously they do not. Unconsciously it is about misogyny and an intense desire to control women's sexuality. This is the result of various mother issues. You guys need to know that. It is a psychological fact. I pray for all Republicans who are against abortion. I am sorry you have such issues with your mother.
God help those who protect the lives of our children? There is not a morally upstanding human being who believes killing one's own child is morally right. God help those who believe killing their own children is an acceptable "choice." A child that is raised by a mother who believes in killing babies will be the one with psychological issues.
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What I'm getting at here, is that people who support abortion rights get upset and say anti-abortionists are arguing on the basis of faith and forcing their beliefs on others. What they don't explain, is why their beliefs should be accepted instead. So you're simply replying to dogma with dogma. DEFEND YOUR VIEW PLEASE, and don't resort to intangible metaphysics if you say we can't use that argument.
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girlanghi, how many children (wanted or unwanted) I have adopted is irrelevant to the question. People are allowed to have opinions on issues even if they don't have direct personal experience with it. Or are you saying knowledge comes only from experience?
Tell me how many abortions you've had and performed, and then you can have an opinion about abortion, if you want to go that route!
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Barack Obama there is no point in talking to you anymore -- your heart is hardened. I will never understand the thought process of anyone who would deny the humanity of a little child in the womb of his/her mother, and advocate the death of that unborn child. I hope and pray that when your hour of need comes you are shown love and mercy -- the love and mercy you are denying the unborn child and his/her mother. God forgive and convert this unloving and merciless world. It cannot be Obama/Biden.
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Why don't people have the right to force their opinion on others when it comes to abortion? I don't understand this thinking. People don't seem to have a problem forcing their opinions on others in other cases. In fact, it's pretty clear that if you support abortion, you're forcing your opinion on others, since those being aborted don't have a say, and those who oppose abortion as immoral are left in the dust.
Now convincing others they're wrong is fine. It's argument, not "force."
As a professional health care worker of some long standing it is my informed opinion that the decision whether a termination takes place should rest with the pregnant woman and her doctor.Whatever our views may be,we have no right to force them upon others.We especially should not crimilaize a procedure that would see victims of rape/incest being forced to continue with a pregnancy.Most of us will never make such a decision,we should be mindful then when we seek to make criminals of those do.
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Why "should" the decision to have an abortion rest solely with the pregnant woman and her doctor, doodledots? Why should we not force our views on others? You feel this way, but haven't given any reasons why this should be accepted.
Why is forcing victims of rape and incest to give birth to any resulting pregnancies something we should oppose?
I AM CONFUSED! Isn't it hypocritical that those in the pro-choice movement, who are constantly telling us that they care about women's rights and reproductive safety, are the same people who are denying the humanity of the unborn, and advocating the worst assault on the female race in the history of the world abortion? They seem to conveniently forget that fifty per-cent of the unborn children killed in the womb are female. Can't they understand the hypocrisy? Choose life not death.
Why is it "more than fair" that a child conceived of rape be aborted? The child isn't at fault for the crime and sin of her father.
Abortion is forcing someone's will on the unborn child. It's like the ancient Roman practice of exposing infants the father didn't approve, or what the Arabs used to do with burying female infants. We're just doing it a little sooner. At least death row criminals get anesthetic.
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Oh, so you're a sexist bigot now, girlanghi?
Men, as well as women have a say in what is done with their bodies, and that's why I oppose abortion. When you're aborted, you have no say in whether you live or die.
Or do you think only female babies are aborted? Of course, from a medical standpoint, for the first few months we're all female.
Define abortion = "to terminate a pregnancy, you should also define the words "terminate" and "pregnancy" so that young women can understand, that Abortion means to "kill the child".
Pregnant means "with Child" not "with a tumorous fetus".
I am pro-life, because of the rights of children, who the father is, should not even be considered.
I would love to see pro-lifers champion for and even help pay for poor born children to be fed, given medical care, get an education and to get their needs met as well as birth-control sex ed for male & female to avoid abortion
Children in utero have no rights because they are not separate or equal persons. A nice woman allows a baby to stay in her womb until birth. Another woman kicks baby out. I say, work on the hearts of women, not the laws or women & fetuses will die From abortions DIY
Is that the argument? Is it really about money for people? Thats sick! Pro-lifers do pay through taxes etc. anyway. And lots of people like my sister, adopted a baby girl and that helps. I do agree that attacking the root of the problem is the answer though.
Do you eat meat sir? Because if so the animal that was killed to serve your appetite had in fact more neural activity and self awareness than a fetus that is considered undeveloped enough to abort. A child may be aborted (by the way it's entirely the woman's choice) to stop it from growing up in ill fitting circumstance. You may talk about taking away it's chance at life. The chance any of us exist is amazingly small and this argument is null and void.
So... meat is murder, but aborting unborn humans is an inalienable right of women? Strange.
The cow in your burger will never become an adult human being. Normally, the unborn child will. So they're better off dead than possibly poor? Again, very strange logic. Why don't we kill everyone who has a tough life or is handicapped in any way? Then only the richest will survive. :(
Putting words in my mouth are you then? I eat meat, I never said anything about that! I'm saying that there is no pain or thought and it's a collection of multiplying unaware cells. Talking about terminating a possibility is pretty much like saying having a wank is a crime against humanity. Any woman who has ever had a period has murdered someone then huh? I didn't say poor either (again with the assumptions) it means a lot of things. The idea of survival of the fittest was abolished an age ago!
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no problem about the meat then. ;)
no, masturbation and menstruation aren't in any way equivalent to induced abortions. Neither will ever develop into an adult human if left to nature, however a fetus will, that's the difference. We're not talking about a "potential" human here, we're talking about a human that has already begun to develop. So no this isn't the "acorn is an oak tree" argument.
Because the issue isn't over just because CNN says it is, manganzon23. Society is still divided over abortion (51 vs 49 iirc). The people who want it kept legal are the ones who say don't keep debating it. What if we stopped debating slavery or women's suffrage? Heck, by your own logic, when abortion was illegal, we should have stopped debating it then it never would have been legalized.
I'm not pro-choice, but don't confuse me with one of these anti-abortion hicks. I just feel woman shouldn't have a choice. I believe all woman should be forced to have abortions, and we should apply this law to the red-states first. In sixty years rednecks would be extinct, then american woman can be allowed to have babies again.
The lady who brought this to court, regrets her deceision. She publically announced it. Everyone regrets something you did when you were younger. Just use protection and then you won't need a abortion. If your life depends on it, different story. Take responsibilty. Stop the killings!
Plenty of women that have given birth regretted that decision too. Sex education with comprehensive birth control is good, but Palin is against anything but abstinence being taught. ALternative sexual practice which don't include ejaculation in or near the vagina is also good, but people are too repressed to teach such things. I wish more pro-lifers would champion birth-control and non-impregnating sexual practices to prevent abortions. Abstinence is often impossible, ask Palin's daughter.
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How many "backyard abortions" were done before Roe V. Wade, vs. the number of abortions now? If anything, the number of abortions INcreased after legalization, not decreased. So that seems like a poor argument. Plus, from the prolife standpoint, all abortion is killing an innocent human life, so why would the risk of the procedure or it's legality matter in the end? Many clean executions vs. a few risky killings?
I really don't understand why people aren't taking what McCain and Palin are saying seriously. Their stated objective is to appoint conservative judges to the Supreme Court to overturn Roe vs. Wade. They have been very up front about it. Yet I have heard pro-choice women say that although they disagree, they will still vote for McCain/Palin because they can't see it happening. Wake up! Roe vs. Wade was a court decision. Laws can be overturned. All it takes is 5 votes.
The only reason that this has become such a big issue for this election is because the Republicans want to draw attention away from the fact that McCain is a crappy candidate and Palin is an ignorant pig (with lipstick).
who will take care of these unwanted children??? is Sarah Palin going to adopt all of them?? she likes to have kids but she doesn't like taking care of them! where was she when her daughter needed sex education?? most probably hunting bears. this Sarah Palin is backward thinking and so are the people that vote for her she will end up being president if McCain gets in I can't believe this is happening
It's only the right wing over zealous white christian middle to upper class republicans who want to re-open this extremely personal decision. Are these freaks going to take care of these children? No way. Way to go you republican freaks, take another step backwards on progress. Who cares about what happens to the child after it's born into extreme adversity or even worse left in a dumpster because the mother doesn't know or feels shame as to what to do.
People who want to end the murder of 1.2 million babies each year want to re-open this issue.
There are waiting lists for adoption. People are traveling to China and other countries at great expense to adopt children. There are crisis pregnancy clinics in every major city that will provide support to mother and child. There are people, unlike you, who do care about the child and the challenges the mother might face.
do you honestly think that women like abortion what the hell is wrong with you??? it seem you care more about a child being born more then the child it's self tell me something how many unwanted children have you adopted??? how many???
"Do you honestly think a parent wants to kill their 3 year old when they no longer wants them? It is their right to end their 3 year old's life. Who are you to say they can't kill their 3 year old's life. Can you take care of every 3 year old out there? Then the parents should be able to kill them."
Abortion is murder of an innocent child. Why can't we allow the murder of any child or person if society or the parents find them "unwanted".
To: 666dam63, Are you saying lets just kill a human because you don't want them around or if can't take care of them? So when the going gets tuff just kill! Am I missing something? As for who is going to take care of them, you are, the people who created the human and if it too much for you to handle then don't have sex, & if you do need sex then use protection.
How disingenuous. Palin isn't really wanting states to make the decision on abortion, she really wants states to outlaw abortion in her Christian wet dream world. What pro-choicers and pro-abortionists want is for women to make the decision about abortion for themselves!!!! Breeders don't have abortions anyway, right, so let all of us pro-choice/aborters have them and we'll become extinct and the world will be full of nice pro-life breeders with guns fighting wars.
I can totally accept restrictions to that right, like "you can only have an abortion in the first 3 months".
Palin believes that if a 13 year old child is raped by a criminal with AIDS, she cannot take a pill THE NEXT DAY that will prevent pregnancy. She has to keep the baby even though it will have AIDS also, and will die by age 5.
thats a lie...its like saying that obama wants all moms to kill health babies and by the way...black moms for palin...black moms dont abort,they love thier kids like palin!!!
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Okay, last comment from me... the point is that abortion is argued to help the poor, which means you're going to have a disproportionate number of poor and women of color having abortions, which means fewer of those people. Isn't that racial genocide? Scary.
Stats show that many well off women have abortions, so it is in fact being used as birth control. Our society has unrealistic expectations of women. De-stigmatize pregnancy and motherhood! Stop discrminating and we can get around this.
Leaving the "state" to dictate what a woman can or cannot do with her body is wrong, and overturning Roe V. Wade would mean some women in some states have the decision made for them, and no Government funding or oversight for whatever "clinics" do exist.
The critical point is not to disenfranchise or disempower women at all, and certainly not to leave the issue of women's rights open whatsoever. It is not up to ANY state to make this decision, it is the woman's responsibility. Not only must women have the right to an abortion in their own state, they have a right to clean, safe, funded social support. The fetus has no rights, but the woman does--this must not be changed, for it is unethical to control or frustrate a woman's choice in this.
Mathews is a MORON. If Roe v. Wade is overturded, the people of a state will vote to keep or reject abortion. What Sarah Palin believes about abortion will have the same weigh as another person voting in favor of abortion in Alaska. Every citizen of a state will vote and what the mayority wants will win. Be it in favor or against abortion.
The constitution and bill of rights are intended to protect against a majority voting to take away rights from a minority. No majority can force a woman to abort or to carry to term, it is the woman's personal choice. Palin said her daughter made the right choice, but she had a choice. If Palin had her way, all women would be forced to carry to term and have zero choice, state by state of course.
You do know the rich right now are paying much less in terms of taxes than the middle class? Warren Buffet did an experiment to see if any CEO pays more in taxes than their secretary. Prize: A million bucks. Even he couldn't get the prize. His pays like 30 percent. He pays around 17 percent. That accounts for ALL taxes.
Why? How much money do you think they need? $250,000 a year isn't enough to live comfortably? There are families who can barely afford to eat! America is a capitalist country, so therefore, the more money the make, the more tax you should pay TO HELP OUT THE REST OF THE COUNTRY. If you're a true patriot you would care more about your fellow countrymen, you basted.
In a society where abortion is illegal, we would have much less teenage pregnancy. If no one got pregnant when they weren't prepared for a baby, we would not have this problem in the 1st place.
aaa333ify 11 months ago
Scarborough owned
smpunditz 1 year ago
These people are dumb. Capt.velocity is right
Zachdudeio2 1 year ago
These guys opinons mean nothing. No one word. They're all Faags and comminist bastards. Water carriers for the super rulers, my relatives. They work for my royalist family an i don't aprove. All liberals are insane an are easily bought. Chris can't think about nothing but the nut sack in his mouth.
ISUCN 1 year ago
so warmhearted girl who is searching for a man who would be able to satisfy my needs
AolaniAnvita1 1 year ago
This woman...retard...is the most divisive tool in America...
Palin needs to go, or at least all the 65 year olds that praise her, and her lack of intellect.
AFRICA is a COUNTRY?
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TheAMGClub 2 years ago
Oh please, Obama is a good person. McCain pulled worse bs and Palin is an idiot who doesn't represent women at all.
CaptVelocity 2 years ago 6
Men controlling women. Ladies, are you fools? Men have controlled you using, violence, guilt, politics and religion. Death is death! Illness, accident, age, and murder are all death. Ladies, it is your life, and your bodies. Do I have the right to control your bodies? If you have an unwanted pregnancy, do they provide for the child's life and college? Are you fools? Men control you with lies. You use lies to survive. There is everything wrong with that. Girl Power!
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Do you realize that men created the technology that allowed women to have abortions in the first place?
Men gave women their rights to everything they have today.
jbz7890 2 years ago
That in not true. Women used to abort using simple water and techniques. I am not talking about the 20th century. Please research the 19th century. Any right women have achieved has been through difficult, and often violent, resistance. You have your right to believe, why don't women have the right to choose? Men have decided what women do with their bodies
throughout history. If you have women on your
side of this issue, they have to play along or lose status.
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From an evolutionary standpoint, men are SUPPOSED to have control over women. Humans are just like every other sexually dimorphic species. Do you ever wonder why men evolved to be bigger, stronger, smarter, and more aggressive than women?
Without male dominance, our birth rates plummet, as we are seeing today. Countries in which women have equal rights, like the U.S. or Sweden, have extremely low birth rates compared to countries in which they do not, like Sudan or Iran.
jbz7890 2 years ago
Men are bigger, stronger...
They are not smarter. That has been proven.
Men control using violence. That is part of the survival instinct. We have evolved into intelligent beings. Men react with violence to control. Women are more apt to discuss, before fighting. Women have to accept a position that allows hatred. I want women to be selective about their offspring. War is fear,
to those who want power. We have developed
from ignorance to consciousness.
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Your post made me laugh. Are you trying to write poetry?
It's been proven again and again that men are more intelligent than women. On the SAT test, men average about 40 points higher on math and about 10 points higher on verbal. On most IQ tests, men average about 3-5 points higher. Furthermore, the variance for men is much higher than it is for women. For instance, 2.23 times as many boys than girls scored an 800 on the math SAT.
jbz7890 2 years ago
Male statistics are a small percentage of the whole without SAT's. Women are entrusted with child rearing. Most men can not handle that stress. The men you point out got their intelligence from their mothers. Social conditioning has motivated current findings, based on what you share. Fear and insecurity prompt men to work harder to be better than women. Have you ever heard a woman say,"men are so dumb?" Women have acted dumb to survive. I meant no poetry. You want a poem? Respond.
4u2b1ib12 2 years ago 6
thats true, I mean are species still go through sexual selection, exsplains why some women dont like short guys ect. Its all about who will have the better genes to propogate are species. Science, its a wonderful thing.
pbrskater26 2 years ago
You stupid, sexist, ignorant pig! Men shouldn't control women and they aren't smarter! Bigger and stronger on average yes, but neither of those are everything.
4u2b1ib12 is right and is way smarter than you will ever be. SAT scores and IQ tests are BS and prove nothing.
Women are more independent now, like it or not. Even more freedom and being left alone won't cause birth-rates to go down, and even if they did...that wouldn't be so horrible, because the world is already over-populated.
CaptVelocity 2 years ago 10
And another thing, it doesn't matter what most animals do...we're different. We have more self -awareness and a sense of fairness and morality. Animals don't know better, but humans don't have to treat women like things and try to control them.
People like you are dying out, you'll never succeed. You've already lost, and your old-fashioned views will one day fade into nothing-- along with every last one of you.
CaptVelocity 2 years ago 13
@CaptVelocity actualty most mammals have morality sence of fairness and self-awareness. but still, aboriton happens in nature. wolfs when one of the non-alpha females gets pregnant is harased so hard that she loses the baby. this does not happen always but usualy it happens when food is rare. allso if you do it on religius grounds then bible has no proplem with abortion, it actualy commands it in many cases,
gooddarkjedi 11 months ago
Pro choices are lucky that as a society we are far more compassionate then they were to their baby. Justice would be dragging the woman by her hair outside into a empty cold parking lot and executing her like an animal without a choice in the matter. The same choice they refused to give the baby. But thank god we believe in life.
LeedsUnited1984 2 years ago
No it wouldn't be justice. Choosing an unborn organism over people who are here already would be stupid. And if anyone tried to drag the woman out, I would break both of their arms and make sure they pee blood for a month.
No matter how much you would like to believe that a developing organism is the same as an infant, it will never be true.
CaptVelocity 2 years ago 17
I hope those coat hangers feel good. She deserves it.
LeedsUnited1984 2 years ago
the abortion industry is only about money...they dont care about women. In fact real women are pro life. Close your legs ladies...don't make the life growing in you pay for your irresponsibility!
sandroeleven 2 years ago
Screw both of you. First, leeds you don't know all the details...and I'm sick of you pricks that say women deserve to be raped, suffer, whatever. You're all the same.
And where do you get off saying what "real women" want? Only the brainwashed fundies think abortion is murder. They pretty much never abort past three months.
By the way, pro-life is funny because most of them don't give a shit about them once they can survive on their own.
CaptVelocity 2 years ago 5
And it can't be proven that they're people with souls in the development stages. Oh and some them are raped, so your idea of "irresponsibility" is skewed. In any case, saying "clothes your legs" makes you sound like an ass. What, people can't have sex without giving birth just because you don't like it. Men should just use a damn condom and the women should have a pill with them as a pre-caution.
Honestly, quit trying to shove your religion down everyone's throat.
CaptVelocity 2 years ago 6
They dont deserve rape, but the baby doesnt deserve death either.
sandroeleven 2 years ago
But what life does it have when it's most important development stages where it learns how to form healthy attachments are spent with the mother hating them. Infants can sense that anger towards them. and if the mother can't take care of them? there's to many kids in orphanages. maybe we should worry about what's already here and now then what might be.
Rainshi 2 years ago
"The pro-life position, as adopted by John McCain and Sarah Palin doesn't say women can't make those decisions" yes it does, you fucking idiot, typical Conservatard at it's finest.
Headhunter004 3 years ago
Hahaha, i couldnt agree more. That dude's is quite a cunt and won't admit his mistakes
johnwashere22 3 years ago
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DEMOCRAT VIEW: If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.
S. FAILIN'S VIEW: You staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state's school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant, you're considered VERY responsible.
RepubliCANTs are Pro-LIFE, Pro-War, Pro-Death Penalty, etc. Talk about a value system that's contradictory & an oxy-moron. LOL! ~W~
mavrek47 3 years ago
Nobody should take away women right! Period!
Here is Sarah going around calling Obama socialist. It seems she wants government to decide for women.
derrhewitt 3 years ago 5
Sarah Palin is an uneducated reactionary buffoon.
Someone should have aborted her ass.
lezxotic 3 years ago
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The Nation have reported that the CNP "are the hidden hand behind McCain's Palin pick".
The CNP has shared directors such as Jesse Helms, Thomas Ellis and R.E. Carter-Wrenn with the eugenics organization the Pioneer Fund.
The Pioneer Fund endorses mandatory abortion and euthanasia.
The CNP is likely a pro-life Christian front for wealthy ideologues who want a system similar to that of Communist China.
neothomist1275 3 years ago
wish i could vote because i would vote Obama hands down by a landslide.. all the way Obama 2008
minteko 3 years ago 4
What is this guys point? ; he seems to think that turning it back to the states is OK ? There's a reason why states don't get to decide issues like slavery, discrimination and abortion. No one has the right to determine if I have a child, not the state or the Feds.
LynnTT01 3 years ago 4
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Justinsax1 3 years ago
BOREWAR0758 said:
'if you believe in god, you must also believe in FREE WILL. '
Belief in free will doesn't mean I have to believe people should just be allowed to do whatever they want. You think rapists and murderers should be allowed to run free?
OneEyedJack1970 3 years ago
buskerdog said:
'Small-minded politicians in states with populations full of socially conservative, religious voters will subject their citizens to a loss of rights that others of us enjoy.'
Like the right to be born? Oh yeah -- we don't have that here anymore. It's getting more and more like China every day. People like you are destroying this country.
OneEyedJack1970 3 years ago
You don't know what you're talking about.
buskerdog 3 years ago
Why is it bad for nine lawyers in Washington to make your life decisions for you but it's good for some lawyers or politicians or religious voters in your state to do it instead? How is that better? Either way it's still someone else making your own decisions for you. Better to have the highest authority in the land give everyone the equal freedom to make their own decisions. Joe is dead wrong here. Palin's position isn't as he presents it.
buskerdog 3 years ago
are you serious buskerdog? i hope to god you are being sarcastic. you would rather have a disconnected fed. enforced america than the communities that you live in, that have a hands on understanding of its culture, make decisions..... i'm so sick of you liberal and right wing fucks.
beaulc 3 years ago
Yes I'm serious. Just because an American is born in one state and not another should not prevent them from their rights. We are all Americans and we should all have the right to live our lives in ways that aren't harming others. Small-minded politicians in states with populations full of socially conservative, religious voters will subject their citizens to a loss of rights that others of us enjoy. That's not fair. That's not American.
buskerdog 3 years ago
(continued) I mean, what if Sarah Palin wanted other rights to be decided by the "communities" that know best what is right for their local residents? Free speech? Freedom of and from religion? Slavery? Segregation? etc... Sometimes having a federal authority that ensures that all Americans share the same fundamental rights is the only option.
buskerdog 3 years ago
it is time to be brave and return to america. it doesn't matter what/who we believe in when making an argument for states power. the federal gov. doesn't have the right to make the decisions that have been made and that is one of the reasons for such a disconnect in our culture. every form of gov. has its strengths but ours is the american spirit and ability to change within the fabrics given to us by our forefathers.if we don't know ourselves we are going down the slide like bloody birds.
beaulc 3 years ago
So if the federal gov doesn't have the right to make those decisions, why does the state gov? If you value a more localized decision making process then why don't you see that what the supreme court has done is give the decision to the ultimate locality: The individual. The supreme court made it possible for you to make the decision that's right for you and has given everyone else that right equally. I don't want to live at the mercy of my state capital which isn't even where I live. Why do you?
buskerdog 3 years ago
it wasnt so much decided that abortions were right, just that it was the womans choice. everyone has their personal beliefes, and people should just respect that.
KindaSneaky 3 years ago 2
i do not get it
where is the freedom here
prolife see it as murder and prochoice not murder
i think there should not be restriction
you prolife do not abort your fetus and let those prochioce make there choice.
do not force me to follow your believes try to convince me.
talking about murder how many children you republicans killed in iraq. search the net you will know
oldworld40 3 years ago 2
Well, the supreme court decided abortion is legal, so take it up with the people who decided Roe vs. Wade.
red12512 3 years ago
and consenting married and unmarried adults slip on C.S. i have to say that the right to choose an abortion should be between the woman,her husband(boyfriend), the doctor,and her conscience. i have no right to make any decision. neither does the church,the state, or the courts. if you believe in god, you must also believe in FREE WILL.
BOREWAR0758 3 years ago 3
i wish that abortion as a practice didn't exist. i wish that all consenting adults used common sense (and birth control) before engaging in sex. and i wish that all teens in this mtv, fuse sex saturated world didn't have sex until after marriage and realize that sex is not a toy or a game but an action that produces consequences. BUT, i live in the real world and i believe that in a country where young people don't ask for parental permission.
BOREWAR0758 3 years ago
when people believe in bible's god, even killing children becomes moral: Moses was angry with the officers of the army who returned from battle. "Have you allowed all the women to live? They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and turned the Israelites away from the LORD in what happened at Peor, so that a plague struck the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. [Num 31:14-18]
missionarysarahbarry 3 years ago
When is a baby conscious of its own existence?
Way after the abortion deadline, it's not babykilling.
For crying out loud you conservative drama queens, talk about over acting and and playing up philosophical grey areas as an outright yes or no question.
Abortion (pre-child consciousness) is not baby killing, it is the halting of a chemical reaction that occurs between a sperm and an egg.
Why do you republicans want to live in a luddite-1984.
Stop sucking the states teet al your life.
Armyofcrackfiends 3 years ago 4
"When is a baby conscious of its own existence? Way after the abortion deadline, it's not babykilling." Not to mention, way after being BORN. Show me a newborn who is conscious of its own existence. Should the state FORCE its beliefs on mothers who just want to abort their newborns? How can the state take away this right?
BaronGrackle 3 years ago
What's next, a burka for all American women? Back to being barefoot and pregnant, kept so busy with household duties, as assigned by their master, that women don't have the time or energy left to fight for change.....hmmm, sounds like decades of courageous women fighting for equality just might have been in vain. Young women have taken for granted the rights that were achieved for them. I was there when girlfriends bled to death from coathanger abortions, or having babies then left in poverty.
CrankyCrone 3 years ago 2
There are different opinions on what constitutes life, b/c this is a pluralistic society. I don't know if I could ever go through with an abortion. But I wouldn't judge a woman if she did. We don't have the right to tell a woman what to do with her body. I appreciate your values regarding babies and life, but we can only live our lives as we see fit and we cannot judge others when they make choices. We aren't God and have no right to indicate that someone is a murderer or a sinner. Peace.
red12512 3 years ago 2
"There are different opinions on what constitutes life, b/c this is a pluralistic society." There are different opinions on what constitutes life, because people don't like science if it doesn't agree with them. An unborn child has his/her own cell structure, his/her own DNA distinct from the mother, he/she has the 46 chromosomes that he/she will have for the rest of life, and he/she is clearly a distinct organism from the mother. So, what arguments are there that an unborn is not alive?
BaronGrackle 3 years ago
Dear God help us all if these two win. Conservatism is the result of poor parenting. Women have the right to choose. Pro-lifers may consciously care about a fetus but unconsciously they do not. Unconsciously it is about misogyny and an intense desire to control women's sexuality. This is the result of various mother issues. You guys need to know that. It is a psychological fact. I pray for all Republicans who are against abortion. I am sorry you have such issues with your mother.
red12512 3 years ago 6
God help those who protect the lives of our children? There is not a morally upstanding human being who believes killing one's own child is morally right. God help those who believe killing their own children is an acceptable "choice." A child that is raised by a mother who believes in killing babies will be the one with psychological issues.
ekz25 3 years ago
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What I'm getting at here, is that people who support abortion rights get upset and say anti-abortionists are arguing on the basis of faith and forcing their beliefs on others. What they don't explain, is why their beliefs should be accepted instead. So you're simply replying to dogma with dogma. DEFEND YOUR VIEW PLEASE, and don't resort to intangible metaphysics if you say we can't use that argument.
XSC3 3 years ago
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girlanghi, how many children (wanted or unwanted) I have adopted is irrelevant to the question. People are allowed to have opinions on issues even if they don't have direct personal experience with it. Or are you saying knowledge comes only from experience?
Tell me how many abortions you've had and performed, and then you can have an opinion about abortion, if you want to go that route!
XSC3 3 years ago
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Barack Obama there is no point in talking to you anymore -- your heart is hardened. I will never understand the thought process of anyone who would deny the humanity of a little child in the womb of his/her mother, and advocate the death of that unborn child. I hope and pray that when your hour of need comes you are shown love and mercy -- the love and mercy you are denying the unborn child and his/her mother. God forgive and convert this unloving and merciless world. It cannot be Obama/Biden.
mcm0158 3 years ago
Palin's views on many things scare me. It seems apparent that she would have no problem in forcing her beliefs on others.
America could lose much with a person such as her in power.
aldushuxley 3 years ago 5
abortion is a human choice regardless of your believe
I'm against abortion but i have no rights to force my opinion on others.
convince them not to do is my job punishment is gods job.
oldworld40 3 years ago
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Why don't people have the right to force their opinion on others when it comes to abortion? I don't understand this thinking. People don't seem to have a problem forcing their opinions on others in other cases. In fact, it's pretty clear that if you support abortion, you're forcing your opinion on others, since those being aborted don't have a say, and those who oppose abortion as immoral are left in the dust.
Now convincing others they're wrong is fine. It's argument, not "force."
XSC3 3 years ago
alaska is part of the usa
are people of alaska different than the rest of the states that they can not make there choice because of this dictator palin
she in runing as VP based on her experince in alaska as she claims does that means she is gona be someone diferent if comes to the whitehouse
some reporters think that we are stupid by defending sara palin
oldworld40 3 years ago
As a professional health care worker of some long standing it is my informed opinion that the decision whether a termination takes place should rest with the pregnant woman and her doctor.Whatever our views may be,we have no right to force them upon others.We especially should not crimilaize a procedure that would see victims of rape/incest being forced to continue with a pregnancy.Most of us will never make such a decision,we should be mindful then when we seek to make criminals of those do.
doodledots 3 years ago 2
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Why "should" the decision to have an abortion rest solely with the pregnant woman and her doctor, doodledots? Why should we not force our views on others? You feel this way, but haven't given any reasons why this should be accepted.
Why is forcing victims of rape and incest to give birth to any resulting pregnancies something we should oppose?
XSC3 3 years ago
I AM CONFUSED! Isn't it hypocritical that those in the pro-choice movement, who are constantly telling us that they care about women's rights and reproductive safety, are the same people who are denying the humanity of the unborn, and advocating the worst assault on the female race in the history of the world abortion? They seem to conveniently forget that fifty per-cent of the unborn children killed in the womb are female. Can't they understand the hypocrisy? Choose life not death.
mcm0158 3 years ago
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Of course for the early stage abortions, they'd all be female...
XSC3 3 years ago
Why is it "more than fair" that a child conceived of rape be aborted? The child isn't at fault for the crime and sin of her father.
Abortion is forcing someone's will on the unborn child. It's like the ancient Roman practice of exposing infants the father didn't approve, or what the Arabs used to do with burying female infants. We're just doing it a little sooner. At least death row criminals get anesthetic.
XSC3 3 years ago
XSC3.If you are a man , you have no right to comment...............
How many unwanted kids have YOU adopted ?
girlanghi 3 years ago
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Oh, so you're a sexist bigot now, girlanghi?
Men, as well as women have a say in what is done with their bodies, and that's why I oppose abortion. When you're aborted, you have no say in whether you live or die.
Or do you think only female babies are aborted? Of course, from a medical standpoint, for the first few months we're all female.
XSC3 3 years ago
Define abortion = "to terminate a pregnancy, you should also define the words "terminate" and "pregnancy" so that young women can understand, that Abortion means to "kill the child".
Pregnant means "with Child" not "with a tumorous fetus".
I am pro-life, because of the rights of children, who the father is, should not even be considered.
Why do Children have no rights?
GoTimothy 3 years ago
I would love to see pro-lifers champion for and even help pay for poor born children to be fed, given medical care, get an education and to get their needs met as well as birth-control sex ed for male & female to avoid abortion
Children in utero have no rights because they are not separate or equal persons. A nice woman allows a baby to stay in her womb until birth. Another woman kicks baby out. I say, work on the hearts of women, not the laws or women & fetuses will die From abortions DIY
kimzeynkink 3 years ago 2
Is that the argument? Is it really about money for people? Thats sick! Pro-lifers do pay through taxes etc. anyway. And lots of people like my sister, adopted a baby girl and that helps. I do agree that attacking the root of the problem is the answer though.
dubbatube 3 years ago
Do you eat meat sir? Because if so the animal that was killed to serve your appetite had in fact more neural activity and self awareness than a fetus that is considered undeveloped enough to abort. A child may be aborted (by the way it's entirely the woman's choice) to stop it from growing up in ill fitting circumstance. You may talk about taking away it's chance at life. The chance any of us exist is amazingly small and this argument is null and void.
Don't dare use it!
TheStubbornDebater 3 years ago
So... meat is murder, but aborting unborn humans is an inalienable right of women? Strange.
The cow in your burger will never become an adult human being. Normally, the unborn child will. So they're better off dead than possibly poor? Again, very strange logic. Why don't we kill everyone who has a tough life or is handicapped in any way? Then only the richest will survive. :(
XSC3 3 years ago
Putting words in my mouth are you then? I eat meat, I never said anything about that! I'm saying that there is no pain or thought and it's a collection of multiplying unaware cells. Talking about terminating a possibility is pretty much like saying having a wank is a crime against humanity. Any woman who has ever had a period has murdered someone then huh? I didn't say poor either (again with the assumptions) it means a lot of things. The idea of survival of the fittest was abolished an age ago!
TheStubbornDebater 3 years ago
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no problem about the meat then. ;)
no, masturbation and menstruation aren't in any way equivalent to induced abortions. Neither will ever develop into an adult human if left to nature, however a fetus will, that's the difference. We're not talking about a "potential" human here, we're talking about a human that has already begun to develop. So no this isn't the "acorn is an oak tree" argument.
XSC3 3 years ago
People should have the right to abort pregnancy....why bring this divisive issue back to the forefront.
manganzon23 3 years ago
Because the issue isn't over just because CNN says it is, manganzon23. Society is still divided over abortion (51 vs 49 iirc). The people who want it kept legal are the ones who say don't keep debating it. What if we stopped debating slavery or women's suffrage? Heck, by your own logic, when abortion was illegal, we should have stopped debating it then it never would have been legalized.
XSC3 3 years ago
a woman should have the right to abort the worlds too fucced up for kids
MONEYHUNGRYRECORDING 3 years ago
Forgive the grammar, I'm drunk and pist.
BOONWATTHURLEY 3 years ago
I'm not pro-choice, but don't confuse me with one of these anti-abortion hicks. I just feel woman shouldn't have a choice. I believe all woman should be forced to have abortions, and we should apply this law to the red-states first. In sixty years rednecks would be extinct, then american woman can be allowed to have babies again.
BOONWATTHURLEY 3 years ago 2
black moms for palin...black moms dont abort,they love thier kids like palin!!!
liberalblowjob 3 years ago
The lady who brought this to court, regrets her deceision. She publically announced it. Everyone regrets something you did when you were younger. Just use protection and then you won't need a abortion. If your life depends on it, different story. Take responsibilty. Stop the killings!
nickigirl6 3 years ago
Plenty of women that have given birth regretted that decision too. Sex education with comprehensive birth control is good, but Palin is against anything but abstinence being taught. ALternative sexual practice which don't include ejaculation in or near the vagina is also good, but people are too repressed to teach such things. I wish more pro-lifers would champion birth-control and non-impregnating sexual practices to prevent abortions. Abstinence is often impossible, ask Palin's daughter.
Dykeborn 3 years ago 2
Nice argument. If they bring this policy in, people with be doing backyard abortions.
WhatsInYourShoes 3 years ago
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How many "backyard abortions" were done before Roe V. Wade, vs. the number of abortions now? If anything, the number of abortions INcreased after legalization, not decreased. So that seems like a poor argument. Plus, from the prolife standpoint, all abortion is killing an innocent human life, so why would the risk of the procedure or it's legality matter in the end? Many clean executions vs. a few risky killings?
XSC3 3 years ago
I really don't understand why people aren't taking what McCain and Palin are saying seriously. Their stated objective is to appoint conservative judges to the Supreme Court to overturn Roe vs. Wade. They have been very up front about it. Yet I have heard pro-choice women say that although they disagree, they will still vote for McCain/Palin because they can't see it happening. Wake up! Roe vs. Wade was a court decision. Laws can be overturned. All it takes is 5 votes.
Gamemaster729 3 years ago
Pro Choice is the ONLY choice.
lucidatheist 3 years ago
The only reason that this has become such a big issue for this election is because the Republicans want to draw attention away from the fact that McCain is a crappy candidate and Palin is an ignorant pig (with lipstick).
carriellbee 3 years ago
black moms for palin...black moms dont abort,they love thier kids like palin!!!
liberalblowjob 3 years ago
who will take care of these unwanted children??? is Sarah Palin going to adopt all of them?? she likes to have kids but she doesn't like taking care of them! where was she when her daughter needed sex education?? most probably hunting bears. this Sarah Palin is backward thinking and so are the people that vote for her she will end up being president if McCain gets in I can't believe this is happening
Duchyp 3 years ago
That was an uncomfortable interview at the end. Yowsers.
Madmoe77 3 years ago
It's only the right wing over zealous white christian middle to upper class republicans who want to re-open this extremely personal decision. Are these freaks going to take care of these children? No way. Way to go you republican freaks, take another step backwards on progress. Who cares about what happens to the child after it's born into extreme adversity or even worse left in a dumpster because the mother doesn't know or feels shame as to what to do.
666dam63 3 years ago 2
People who want to end the murder of 1.2 million babies each year want to re-open this issue.
There are waiting lists for adoption. People are traveling to China and other countries at great expense to adopt children. There are crisis pregnancy clinics in every major city that will provide support to mother and child. There are people, unlike you, who do care about the child and the challenges the mother might face.
ABORTION IS MURDER!
stgianna 3 years ago
do you honestly think that women like abortion what the hell is wrong with you??? it seem you care more about a child being born more then the child it's self tell me something how many unwanted children have you adopted??? how many???
Duchyp 3 years ago
Here is your logic caste a different way:
"Do you honestly think a parent wants to kill their 3 year old when they no longer wants them? It is their right to end their 3 year old's life. Who are you to say they can't kill their 3 year old's life. Can you take care of every 3 year old out there? Then the parents should be able to kill them."
Abortion is murder of an innocent child. Why can't we allow the murder of any child or person if society or the parents find them "unwanted".
stgianna 3 years ago
To: 666dam63, Are you saying lets just kill a human because you don't want them around or if can't take care of them? So when the going gets tuff just kill! Am I missing something? As for who is going to take care of them, you are, the people who created the human and if it too much for you to handle then don't have sex, & if you do need sex then use protection.
nickigirl6 3 years ago
so obama gets blasted because he "maybe" shares the views of a "radical" rev. wrigt, but radical Christian Palin gets a free pass???????
Slaven2000 3 years ago 7
You haven't been paying attention. Everyone knows the Repubs are not subject to the same rules as the rest of us...
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jumpwedge 3 years ago
How disingenuous. Palin isn't really wanting states to make the decision on abortion, she really wants states to outlaw abortion in her Christian wet dream world. What pro-choicers and pro-abortionists want is for women to make the decision about abortion for themselves!!!! Breeders don't have abortions anyway, right, so let all of us pro-choice/aborters have them and we'll become extinct and the world will be full of nice pro-life breeders with guns fighting wars.
Dykeborn 3 years ago 2
black moms for palin...black moms dont abort,they love thier kids like palin!!!
liberalblowjob 3 years ago
A woman has the right to choose.
I can totally accept restrictions to that right, like "you can only have an abortion in the first 3 months".
Palin believes that if a 13 year old child is raped by a criminal with AIDS, she cannot take a pill THE NEXT DAY that will prevent pregnancy. She has to keep the baby even though it will have AIDS also, and will die by age 5.
Now that's radical.
politicalfarce 3 years ago 8
thats a lie...its like saying that obama wants all moms to kill health babies and by the way...black moms for palin...black moms dont abort,they love thier kids like palin!!!
liberalblowjob 3 years ago
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Okay, last comment from me... the point is that abortion is argued to help the poor, which means you're going to have a disproportionate number of poor and women of color having abortions, which means fewer of those people. Isn't that racial genocide? Scary.
Stats show that many well off women have abortions, so it is in fact being used as birth control. Our society has unrealistic expectations of women. De-stigmatize pregnancy and motherhood! Stop discrminating and we can get around this.
XSC3 3 years ago
Leaving the "state" to dictate what a woman can or cannot do with her body is wrong, and overturning Roe V. Wade would mean some women in some states have the decision made for them, and no Government funding or oversight for whatever "clinics" do exist.
RyMooval 3 years ago
The critical point is not to disenfranchise or disempower women at all, and certainly not to leave the issue of women's rights open whatsoever. It is not up to ANY state to make this decision, it is the woman's responsibility. Not only must women have the right to an abortion in their own state, they have a right to clean, safe, funded social support. The fetus has no rights, but the woman does--this must not be changed, for it is unethical to control or frustrate a woman's choice in this.
RyMooval 3 years ago
Mathews is a MORON. If Roe v. Wade is overturded, the people of a state will vote to keep or reject abortion. What Sarah Palin believes about abortion will have the same weigh as another person voting in favor of abortion in Alaska. Every citizen of a state will vote and what the mayority wants will win. Be it in favor or against abortion.
GunnySgtHartman 3 years ago
The constitution and bill of rights are intended to protect against a majority voting to take away rights from a minority. No majority can force a woman to abort or to carry to term, it is the woman's personal choice. Palin said her daughter made the right choice, but she had a choice. If Palin had her way, all women would be forced to carry to term and have zero choice, state by state of course.
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PalinVp 3 years ago
Hilary approved my balls.
somebuddycool 3 years ago
Make the BUSH TAX CUTS PERMANENT!!
Why should the rich pay more for social programs like education, healthcare, and housing?!?! The middle class are the ones using these services!!!
McCain 08!!!!
USPatriot4life 3 years ago
You do know the rich right now are paying much less in terms of taxes than the middle class? Warren Buffet did an experiment to see if any CEO pays more in taxes than their secretary. Prize: A million bucks. Even he couldn't get the prize. His pays like 30 percent. He pays around 17 percent. That accounts for ALL taxes.
Himechansexytightass 3 years ago 2
Why? How much money do you think they need? $250,000 a year isn't enough to live comfortably? There are families who can barely afford to eat! America is a capitalist country, so therefore, the more money the make, the more tax you should pay TO HELP OUT THE REST OF THE COUNTRY. If you're a true patriot you would care more about your fellow countrymen, you basted.
somebuddycool 3 years ago 3
so you want hard working people to pay for lazy people like you
liberalblowjob 3 years ago
The wealthy use the commons much more heavily than the person who works at Wallmart.
The roads, the court system, the electrical system, water system. All are used by the activities of the wealthy.
killerbandit 3 years ago
Sarah Palin is the ULTIMATE distraction! BRILLIANT meneuver by McCain camp. Brilliant.
warrencray 3 years ago 5
They try to blind the American's to all the other important issues by distracting them with the abortion issue.
USApersian 3 years ago 4