tony blair is the first religious person who has made any sense in his arguments at all and concede on certain irrefutable things against religion..respect
Blair, you had me. You weren't about to convert me or anything, but I thought you had a very gentle and poetic opening statement... for a while.
But then you had to go and ruin it! You ruined it with that absolutely false statement about Hitler being an atheist! It is an outright lie, and you know it! You HAVE to know it! It's a part if history! You were the freaking prime minister, for crying out loud! You should KNOW that Hitler ran a theocracy! "God With Us" was their freaking motto!
Hitler only did those things because he wanted the support of a large proportion of protestant and catholic germans, yes hitler was baptised , but so was stalin and stalin actually wanted to be a priest in his early years. neither proves a substantial faith in god.
i am a rustic man with some clear-cut rationale? in mind? .with the grace of ALLAH i catch up things so quickly,specially the irrational part of something .i humbly say i have forte to rebut your Atheism. i have a short video (2 min) for you , a challenge based .
also,don't forget to watch my 2 hours long video on subject of Atheism in your leisure.
/watch?v=wpwbQAWt30E (2 min)
/watch?v=czr8QqPLzgA ( 2 hrs )
don't call me names if i disillusion you from Atheism.
Blair's assertion that only compassionate bridge-building religion is true religion, if taken as an assertion of fact, is embarrassingly weak and worn. Every religious believer makes the tattered claim that his or her religion is the true one. All disown evil done in the name of God. That way, religion gets credit for the good and can externalize blame for the bad. But what if you consider his assertion as part of an argument being had among religionists--one that could potentially be won?
Only a REAL FOOL would claim there is no God! Man creates awesome skyscrapers, fake hearts, tunnels, vehicles etc.. If we are very imperfect then what more can God create THE UNIVERSE! You must accept Jesus Christ as your Savior to receive eternal rest in heaven! Simple! John 3:16 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him! Repent & accept Jesus Christ! Jesus Christ or HELL?!? Visit cbn. com
Oh mr. Blair... Nazism was based on atheism, and Einstein was religious? For a politician of your stature, this is unforgivable...
I think Hitchens was extremely soft in his wording and choice of subjects. He did not counter above mistakes of Blair, nor did he attack Blair for his constant referral to christianity as how he thought it should be - there are 2.2 billion christians in the world, and 2.200.000.001 opinions on what true christianity is. Too bad, Hitchens could have been devastating.
so hitchens sais that we shoul rely on our brain, the reasoning and...common sounse...; not in prozelitism, misionarism, lobby earners very well wrapped in the sour-sweet candy for the ignorants--the religion that is-the institusionalized and the "self-righteous" shapeshifter of churches and "charity fundations"!
This crowd needs to learn that if you clap every 20 seconds you don't get to listen to the people you paid to listen to. When did everyone become so "X-factor"?
Why have I NEVER seen a debate of this caliber in the United States? Both parties and even the moderator actually know what they are talking about...
Hitchens' acute retorts are to be only admired. It would be wrong to say Blair wasn't a intellect it I believe Christopher is able to dumfound anyone in a debate. He'll be truly missed.
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Hitchens is my all time HERO!!!! I think he would have appreciated this point...The ONLY disagreement I (would have LOVED to have asked Christopher, - is the anti (pro-christian mythology) put forward by Leo Strauss - who he quotes TOO much.. the silent moral leader of the neo-cons & (i'm not impressed by Paul Wolfowitz's wife - sorry) - I would LOVE to see if he was aware of some of Michael Ledeen's attitude & Cheneys pre 2001 oil plans but see TED - Thomas Barnett for a way to solve this.
I felt sorry for Tony. He kept saying the same thing over ander over again and didnt bring up any valid points. Saying that religious people did bad things But also non religious people did bad things doesnt make it right :S Also, the bad things the non religious people did werent in the name of the non religion. The bad things religious people do are in name of religion. Christopher, you will be missed :(
Was it painfully obvious to others that Tony knew he was fucked after Christopher's opening? It felt more like a political debate by Tony. He read off the script and didn't stray. Christopher took notes, and responded to Blair's points. Strong debater vs weak debater.
Where is my democracy where the two sides of an argument can debate without any fear in Tehran?!!! Death to the barbaric, tyrannical, anti- Iranian & evil unelected Islamic regime in Iran. Go Chris! Christopher Hitchens my 21 century hero
Had I have been marking Blair in an essay he would have been marked down as his debate largely was of a political nature in that he actually avoided the question - but slid in alongside it- like a pen that falls down the side of a sofa cushion. Hitchens was spot on target.
It is a breath of fresh air to listen to two British heavyweight intellectuals engage in the cut and thrust of debate...........Almost compensates for the mass of dross found on youtube.
What I ask you after viewing this is whether Tony proves that the world is better for having religion, or simply that people will and do do both good and bad regardless of religion.
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In my opinion, I feel that the both of them are arguing about the wrong things. The biggest problem is the government and not religion. I am a Christian but I feel religion is manipulated by politicians to misinterpret and incite hate. Both Hitchens and Blair are for the wrong things - MORE GOVERNMENT.
@aykayddon the notion that religion is not responsible for an innumerable number of heinous acts is ridiculous. You will not have the satisfaction of acquitting religion of its crimes.
politicians aren't saying anything new - tony tried to win the croud with lines like: good people are GOOD...! Hitch is right - To have a healthy society every human being must be scientifically literate...
Hitchens clearly won the debate, given that religious issues are not something that people change their mind on quickly, I would assume that almost all of the vote changing came from the Undecided camp. If so, aprox 2/3 of the Undecided's were swayed by Hitchens, in other words Hitchens won the "open minded" crowd by a 2:1 ratio.
People gush at Obama's "oratory skill". Obama would seem mentally retarded trying to hold his own against Christopher Hitchens in a debate. Sadly, sophistication of thought and speech is nowhere in America's political sphere. Wish we had the kinds of debates that Brits are used to seeing in Parliament regularly.
Hitch is brilliant as always and even if I knew before watching that he would win this debate, I have to give Blair a lot of credit for participate in this.
But.... not even a great prime minister has a chance of beating the worlds greatest debater, Christopher Hitchens!
Blair says some people need religion to do good, i say this just makes them weak. Religion prays on the weak minded, yes in some cases making them do good, in most other cases abhorent things based in igorance. The other point is religion leads to a greater understanding, i disagree i think religion acts a thought dictatorship towards any sought of free thinking philosophy, its supresses it's flock and demands that they do so of others. I don't think Blair is religious, not my definition of it.
The crowd acts to show support by laughing to great rebuttals by Hitchens but only displays that its nature is pathetic and actually religious and wanting to lessen his arguments with this act.When Blair does not rebut Hitchens's argument and passes it, remains stall and acts not.
Blair acts as if Religion and Atheism share the same weight in the horror of the past. We are going to have bigger wars because of Religion, not because lack of it!
i want to say "rest in peace" but Chris would probably hate it..
i have nothing but respect for this man..even though i disagree with some of his "stances" if you would say but overall, he was a man of wisdom, integrity,honesty who told it like it is..
procommenter is copy-pasting the same insulting and degrading comment about Hitchens' sexuality on several videos. Ignore him, he's either a troll or misinformed about us giving a damn about anyone's sexuality, past or present. What matters is your brain, which is why we don't need to mention procommenter's sexuality to say that he is a worthless human being.
Judge the law! Acquit anyone who's being tried for violating an unconstitutional statute. The courts are established. ALL citizens must acquit defendants. It's an action that can be taken immediately. It requires no new laws. If 90% of all citizens being tried for violating unconstitutional laws were acquitted, how long would it take to turn things around?
2 MEN IN MATRIMONY...A man marrying a man? I reckon that's the gay thing to do. 2 men married to each other: 1 predominately gay, the other passionately heterosexual. One {the gay one} enjoys the homosexual lifestyle because it's all he's ever known, the other {the straight one} deplores the homosexual way because it's a life he's never known, a life he's only read about, a life his husband seldom speaks of.
THE GYNECOLOGY OF DARKNESS [abortogenic adj. : causing abortion : ABORTIFACIENT] — [“Out of the night, two cocks together crow, Cleaving the darkness with a silver blow.” — Edward Thomas (1878-1917)]
The best camera-work entails NOT smashing the camera into the faces of the peo. being filmed. Please note that I capitalized all the letters of NOT. One of the rules of pointing out the obvious entails NOT smashing printed materials into the faces of the peo. be informed as Maryland (to Gen. Lee) wasn't exactly Laos (to Nixon) in relation to N. Vietnam nor reflective of the way Northern whites habitually sacrificed themselves for negroes in the 1860's on orders from Lincoln the melancholic.
I honestly did not see that any side won or lost. In a debate like this the only real winner is humanity itself: You, me and everyone else.
Watching this debate I began to understand that with tolerance, engagement and understanding this could be the century that humans come together and create alot more 'good' in the world.
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Wikipedia: Hitchens has written of his homosexual experiences when in boarding school in his memoir, "Hitch-22." These experiences continued in his college years when he allegedly had relationships with two men who eventually became a part of the Thatcher government.
Was sodomite Christ' Hitchens' hollow death an early Christmas gift, or retribution for the total-war that he endorsed against the mothers & children of the Arab sphere?
@procommenter What a disgusting and narrow minded point you make. Sexual preferences neither affect the intelligence nor goodness of a person. Hitchens, rallied against backward religious dogma holding so much of the world back, including the Middle East. Mothers and Children are abused all the time in the name of religion. Hitchens, simply advocated for strong solutions, as many hawks do. You Sir are sick!
@procommenter Hitchens' death was neither hollow nor retribution for anything. He may have had homosexual experiences but could hardly be called a "sodomite." Referring to him as one is a cheap shot. You're probably a closet case...
It boggles my mind to the extent of bush era retardation that " X amount of charities are based in religion" is a positive argument. As many have stated before: How did religion make those initiatives better in any way?
@fusedchromosome Incorrect. "God" did not resurrect Jesus, in the sense that with that phrasing you imply Jesus as separate from the term "God." Jesus Christ is the Son and is different from the Father. However, Jesus resurrected himself, since he is God, and in his own words, had the power to lay down and raise up his own life. Who knows where Hitchens ended up, hopefully with God.
@celticwomanfan01 "he is God" but "is different from the Father," and talks to himself with nonsensical questions like "why have you forsaken me?" I believe the medical term is "multiple personality disorder." He must have been off his meds during the whole "I think I'll get myself (or is it my other self) crucified in order to pay my own blood debt for sins that haven't even been committed yet." It's entertaining to watch the mental gymnastics, but, quoting Hitchens, it's "white noise."
That was the only "intellectually honest" part of that entire comment. The rest was just unsupported assertions. Ironically, theists of every color and stripe have been making these kinds of supernatural claims for thousands of years without the slightest hesitation. The funny thing is the less they know about the natural world, the more confident they are in their "knowledge" about the supernatural. Go figure!
Every religion has historically positioned itself as an equivalent for slavery, hatred, war and (or) irrational thinking, under a charity disguise, none of which is a good thing for any rational man or woman, or for any other human being that would not want to be rational. Religion has been, again and again, a fight for imposition of irrational ideology to others to obtain power....
Religion doesn't help reach out to people. People reach out to people...for whatever cause, whether you do it for your religion or feelings of good. People still are the ones who do it. God doesn't do anything...esp. since he doesn' exist.
George W Bush and Tony Blair: TWO CRIMINALS, TWO LUNATICS, TWO HORRIBLE HUMAN BEINGS who should be in jail for the rest of their wicked and mediocre lives for the killings of thousands and thousands of innocent people.
SHAME ON YOU TONY BLAIR. SHAME ON YOU, DISGUSTING GEORGE W BUSH.
Hitchens supported the war in Iraq, unfortunately. No one is perfect.
Unfortunately, I don't have enough courage to kill these two criminals myself. I do consider that killing people is very harsh, though. Also, I'd lose the rest of my life because of the criminal acts of two morons. Wishing their deaths is nothing in comparison to the harm they've done. I've never wished bad things to people, but these two mass-murderers are exceptions. I firmly believe that the world will be a much better place without their evil presence.
@Roflcopter4b authorizing and supporting an invasion that killed thousands and thousands of innocents - and doing so based on lies such as the WMD fallacy - is very much wrong.
Tony Blair is a criminal. He and his demented pal George Bush ought to be in jail right now.
And NO, I did not support Saddam Hussein's regime, far from it. BUT we are in the 21st century. Bush and Blair are two coward medieval mass murderers.
@otavioandradas Bush used that as his flawed Casus Belli. I don't believe Blair did. Of course this was a breach of international law, and the war went on for far too long, but the intentions of the war were essentially good, at least on Blair's side. Bush is indeed a war criminal.
I would not be surprised if Blair only agreed to this because he knew that Hitchens would not criticise him on his religious beliefs with regard to his decision to attack Iraq
(although he's such a fucking snake that I strongly suspect he uses the religious thing as a cover, to conveniently explain away an otherwise rather dubious decision to invade).
Blair knew Hitchens was one of the very few prominent free-thinking intellectuals who agrees with him on Iraq and wouldn't challenge him on it.
tony blair is the first religious person who has made any sense in his arguments at all and concede on certain irrefutable things against religion..respect
arsenalsrini 10 hours ago
Blair, you had me. You weren't about to convert me or anything, but I thought you had a very gentle and poetic opening statement... for a while.
But then you had to go and ruin it! You ruined it with that absolutely false statement about Hitler being an atheist! It is an outright lie, and you know it! You HAVE to know it! It's a part if history! You were the freaking prime minister, for crying out loud! You should KNOW that Hitler ran a theocracy! "God With Us" was their freaking motto!
FrankLightheart 11 hours ago
@FrankLightheart
Hitler only did those things because he wanted the support of a large proportion of protestant and catholic germans, yes hitler was baptised , but so was stalin and stalin actually wanted to be a priest in his early years. neither proves a substantial faith in god.
barnaulishe 1 hour ago
lmao, 2hrs of Blair backtracking and Hitchens kicking his ass, brilliant
envirogrunt 11 hours ago
all my respectful Atheists,
i am a rustic man with some clear-cut rationale? in mind? .with the grace of ALLAH i catch up things so quickly,specially the irrational part of something .i humbly say i have forte to rebut your Atheism. i have a short video (2 min) for you , a challenge based .
also,don't forget to watch my 2 hours long video on subject of Atheism in your leisure.
/watch?v=wpwbQAWt30E (2 min)
/watch?v=czr8QqPLzgA ( 2 hrs )
don't call me names if i disillusion you from Atheism.
yoursincerefriend 14 hours ago
Blair's assertion that only compassionate bridge-building religion is true religion, if taken as an assertion of fact, is embarrassingly weak and worn. Every religious believer makes the tattered claim that his or her religion is the true one. All disown evil done in the name of God. That way, religion gets credit for the good and can externalize blame for the bad. But what if you consider his assertion as part of an argument being had among religionists--one that could potentially be won?
TrustingDoubt 17 hours ago
These two motherfuckers deserve to suffer because of their support for the Iraq war.
MegaChairmanMao 19 hours ago
@MegaChairmanMao Hitches only downfall..... otherwise a king among men
envirogrunt 12 hours ago
No more bitches getting Hitch-slapped, genuinely sad, what a treasure he is.
Angel8795 1 day ago
why is it that every time some one thinks that religion is a problem, there called a Nazi or a Communist?
KingVego 1 day ago
World got a lot dumber we he left it.
johnparrot9 3 days ago 5
Wow, can we actually have intelligent discourse?
johnparrot9 3 days ago
i would like to know how the voting turned out and how many were swayed either way
ace1sod 5 days ago
Hitchens was the most evolved communicator in our world. What a loss! There was no way anyone could hustle with him on an intellectual level.
jacknapier394 5 days ago 4
57:33 tony got it completely wrong,democracy isnt for benefit of the people as a whole,,its the oppression of 49% of the people by 51% of the people.
however we dont live in a democracy we live in a plutocracy masquerading as a republic.
ace1sod 5 days ago
@ace1sod You may do, but Tony and the rest of that audience don't
drunkest100 4 days ago
As a person I like Tony Blair, however, I do think he is very misguided. RIP Hitch
berealisticdemandthe 6 days ago
It almost makes me laugh when they claim Hitler was trying to destroy religion.
RetrousseRaptor 1 week ago 6
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PharaohDaniyal 1 week ago
Love his tribute to Marcion of Sinope
ramatirthadasa 1 week ago
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50:32 looks like he was thinking "Oh shit,what did I get myself into" LOL
ramatirthadasa 1 week ago
50:32 looks like he was thinking "Oh shit,what did I get myself into" LOL
ramatirthadasa 1 week ago
41:29 I'd like to globalize her!
ramatirthadasa 1 week ago
Blair's face at 0:48:16 haha. Defeat.
mon1the1biff 1 week ago
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Only a REAL FOOL would claim there is no God! Man creates awesome skyscrapers, fake hearts, tunnels, vehicles etc.. If we are very imperfect then what more can God create THE UNIVERSE! You must accept Jesus Christ as your Savior to receive eternal rest in heaven! Simple! John 3:16 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him! Repent & accept Jesus Christ! Jesus Christ or HELL?!? Visit cbn. com
tigersforchrist 1 week ago
06:36
Straight to Hitch
liamjlhill 1 week ago
Oh mr. Blair... Nazism was based on atheism, and Einstein was religious? For a politician of your stature, this is unforgivable...
I think Hitchens was extremely soft in his wording and choice of subjects. He did not counter above mistakes of Blair, nor did he attack Blair for his constant referral to christianity as how he thought it should be - there are 2.2 billion christians in the world, and 2.200.000.001 opinions on what true christianity is. Too bad, Hitchens could have been devastating.
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That is intersting..
panicattacksymptoms1 1 week ago
All Christians and atheists agree on one thing: there are no atheists in hell. LOL.
AcAwSk8Vids 1 week ago
christopher hitchens in this video looks like bruce willis, and we all know something about bruce willis..... he kicks ass!
Brengmathew 1 week ago
Thankyou Christopher, somehow you made it so much more clear...
luckyyellow70 1 week ago
anyone else feeling the urge to use hitchens's voice to narrate their thoughts?
Sock1122 1 week ago 19
@Sock1122 Seriously I was debating religion with someone and I retorted something in Hitch's accent... It diffused the tension at least.
osuguy555 4 days ago
@Sock1122 haha yes
fuckingwiththestars 3 days ago
@Sock1122 yeah, but I think I'll stick with Morgan Freeman
iWantAGoodName 5 hours ago
so hitchens sais that we shoul rely on our brain, the reasoning and...common sounse...; not in prozelitism, misionarism, lobby earners very well wrapped in the sour-sweet candy for the ignorants--the religion that is-the institusionalized and the "self-righteous" shapeshifter of churches and "charity fundations"!
scathomancer 1 week ago
@scathomancer the online translator that you're using isn't helping you out much
Sock1122 1 week ago
26:15 .... Chris goes to smooth his hair. Sad.
133maxiboy 1 week ago
I love the thumbnail
[My mind is full of fuck]
TheSittingArchitect 1 week ago
The amount of hitchslaps dished out here is astonishing
biggboots 1 week ago
This crowd needs to learn that if you clap every 20 seconds you don't get to listen to the people you paid to listen to. When did everyone become so "X-factor"?
melonjames100 1 week ago
Christopher Hitchens will never be dead. He will always live on in our minds and thoughts. Sure a great man. I love him and miss him.
Ballygowanxx 1 week ago 4
Tony Blair was a good Prime Minister. But I agree with Hitchens in this debate.
EvilJohnnyAllen 1 week ago
@BiggestBallsAround because the U.S. is filled with religious bigots
agkjsdghjfkghsfdjkgh 1 week ago
@agkjsdghjfkghsfdjkgh wow man, little blunt don't you think?...
TheAdminty 1 week ago
@BiggestBaalsAround Because the U.S. is filled with religious bigots, that's why you don't see this
agkjsdghjfkghsfdjkgh 1 week ago
Why have I NEVER seen a debate of this caliber in the United States? Both parties and even the moderator actually know what they are talking about...
BiggestBallsAround 1 week ago
How banal is it to watch someone reading out a question that they wrote as opposed to just saying it? It's like a quick ad before the question.
ShawnD613 1 week ago
another free thinker killed by tobacco, legalize cannabis
SmileyGarrish 1 week ago
HUGE mistake on Tony's part! Yes, admit that religion has caused problems but he repeated it so many times it was supporting Hitchens!
1KevinsFamousChili1 1 week ago
Hitchens' acute retorts are to be only admired. It would be wrong to say Blair wasn't a intellect it I believe Christopher is able to dumfound anyone in a debate. He'll be truly missed.
JustTomm1st 2 weeks ago
I skipped Blair, only listened to Hitchens.
InASexyDimension 2 weeks ago
@InASexyDimension not much of a debate then.
TheAdminty 1 week ago
@TheAdminty Well yea, but I knew Tony Blair was going to bullshit. *Heard some of his arguments actually*
InASexyDimension 1 week ago
@InASexyDimension wasn't having a nock ;)
TheAdminty 1 week ago
oh Hitchens, Canada misses you dearly.
ryanrenesis 2 weeks ago 30
@ryanrenesis Like the rest of the world, my dear friend... like the rest of the world.
schpoutns 1 week ago
so i got through hitchens, started watching blair, got bored. Hitchens wins on his first point every time.
zdunichme 2 weeks ago
So after all of that what's the upshot? What are the final numbers? Hitchens clearly hit it out of the park but what was the voting tally?
Kkevra 2 weeks ago
@Kkevra
"Before the debate, 25% voted for, 55% voted against, and 20% undecided."
"After the debate, 32% voted for the motion, 68% voted against."
ryanrenesis 2 weeks ago
PS - click my icon & find some 30 playlists 3! devoted to Christopher Hitchens, from the rare 80's cspan in full - to his final (heart-wrenching!!) 1min8sec clip with an 8 year old texan girl. With 1500+ videos like Carl Sagan's 'COSMOS' series - to Ancient Cultures & Politics, Art & well chosen series & clips - subscribe & vibe! & I will, new YouTuber or not, return the interest. PS - I have met Tony Blair as he was my local MP, & I asked him at 8! if he ever wanted to be Prime Minister. icon!
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Hitchens is my all time HERO!!!! I think he would have appreciated this point...The ONLY disagreement I (would have LOVED to have asked Christopher, - is the anti (pro-christian mythology) put forward by Leo Strauss - who he quotes TOO much.. the silent moral leader of the neo-cons & (i'm not impressed by Paul Wolfowitz's wife - sorry) - I would LOVE to see if he was aware of some of Michael Ledeen's attitude & Cheneys pre 2001 oil plans but see TED - Thomas Barnett for a way to solve this.
MrDespo3 2 weeks ago
06:37 to get past the introductions
lumpheadthump 2 weeks ago 2
@lumpheadthump motherfuckin' thankyou
antoroma009304 2 weeks ago
Tony Blair is a great deliverer of a rehearsed speech. But he's not a great intellect.
microscopic 2 weeks ago 2
I felt sorry for Tony. He kept saying the same thing over ander over again and didnt bring up any valid points. Saying that religious people did bad things But also non religious people did bad things doesnt make it right :S Also, the bad things the non religious people did werent in the name of the non religion. The bad things religious people do are in name of religion. Christopher, you will be missed :(
thewizard2006 2 weeks ago
haha he said ... doodoo!! WITH LOVE, PETER GRIFFIN
TheDalzielcw 2 weeks ago
1:16:55
Now that's ...wow.
norfsk 2 weeks ago
Was it painfully obvious to others that Tony knew he was fucked after Christopher's opening? It felt more like a political debate by Tony. He read off the script and didn't stray. Christopher took notes, and responded to Blair's points. Strong debater vs weak debater.
MHardeman25 2 weeks ago
Does anybody know the results from the audience survey at the end?
cycodoeboy 2 weeks ago
@cycodoeboy
PRE-DEBATE PRO: 25% CON:55% UNDECIDED:20%
POST-DEBATE PRO: 32% CON: 68%
solhsa 2 weeks ago
Where is my democracy where the two sides of an argument can debate without any fear in Tehran?!!! Death to the barbaric, tyrannical, anti- Iranian & evil unelected Islamic regime in Iran. Go Chris! Christopher Hitchens my 21 century hero
Mirfenderski 2 weeks ago
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z4tz 3 weeks ago
If God resurrects Hitchens, I will be officially impressed.
fusedchromosome 3 weeks ago 2
Blair sounds like a country bumpkin,he's completely intellectually outclassed here!
thedirtydeltas 3 weeks ago
@thedirtydeltas Tony Blair himself was a force for good in the world. It says something about Blair that Hitchens didn't tear him a new one.
Nuff said.
Kleinfurkon 3 weeks ago
Had I have been marking Blair in an essay he would have been marked down as his debate largely was of a political nature in that he actually avoided the question - but slid in alongside it- like a pen that falls down the side of a sofa cushion. Hitchens was spot on target.
Thanks for uploading this.
alypally100 3 weeks ago
It is a breath of fresh air to listen to two British heavyweight intellectuals engage in the cut and thrust of debate...........Almost compensates for the mass of dross found on youtube.
movement26 3 weeks ago 2
What I ask you after viewing this is whether Tony proves that the world is better for having religion, or simply that people will and do do both good and bad regardless of religion.
RAMartin223 3 weeks ago
Tony never had a chance. (How could he?)
I almost feel sorry for him... almost.
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gasmask4poop 3 weeks ago
I live in Northern Ireland. i'm afraid sectarianism is a serious issue here
GiddersParadise 3 weeks ago
EVERY WORD TONEY SAYS IS ENGLISH // BUT DID HE MAKE A SINGLE COGENT REMARK .. OR HELP ANYONE TO UNDERSTAND HIS POINT OF VIEW..
IT IS LIKE CHINESE RICE AND SQUID YOU GET A LOT BUT YOUR STILL HUNGRY..
IF CHRISTOPHER WAS NOT THERE I WOULD NEVER SIT THROUGH HIS CRAP.
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YouTutorials0 3 weeks ago
"In respect of Jerusalem, it is absolutely imperative that we doodoo." - Tony Blair at 1:12:04
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22:45, glasses on - 22:46, glasses off
24:53, glasses on - 24:54, glasses off
25:33, glasses on - 25:35, glasses off
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fauxx82 4 weeks ago
Man I hate seeing Hitch like this. I will always remember him looking as sharp as his mind is.
RIP, Hitch. Thank you for working to end ignorance against the religions of the world that mean to perpetuate it. You are, and ever shall be missed.
Mrsiepel 4 weeks ago 2
Zionism is all these religions which keep people fighting against each other while the sheperds of the sheep run off to the bank.
millingtonjp 4 weeks ago
are they using a generator to power the lights?
shownowt 4 weeks ago
In my opinion, I feel that the both of them are arguing about the wrong things. The biggest problem is the government and not religion. I am a Christian but I feel religion is manipulated by politicians to misinterpret and incite hate. Both Hitchens and Blair are for the wrong things - MORE GOVERNMENT.
aykayddon 4 weeks ago
@aykayddon the notion that religion is not responsible for an innumerable number of heinous acts is ridiculous. You will not have the satisfaction of acquitting religion of its crimes.
fauxx82 4 weeks ago
Christopher Hitchens nailed it constantly, time after time haha!
FreakyShow95 4 weeks ago
politicians aren't saying anything new - tony tried to win the croud with lines like: good people are GOOD...! Hitch is right - To have a healthy society every human being must be scientifically literate...
TZMrazvitie 1 month ago
Yaawwwnnn Tony bores me
fuzzyjem3 1 month ago
Hitchens had a great sense of humor, and a brilliant mind. He's sorely missed.
jajohnson7809 1 month ago
Tears are gathering as I watch Hitch!
It is such a shame he passed away, we lost a lot :(
DontBeAZombie 1 month ago
Tony was thoroughly stomped into the dirt.
twilitprince 1 month ago
Hitchens clearly won the debate, given that religious issues are not something that people change their mind on quickly, I would assume that almost all of the vote changing came from the Undecided camp. If so, aprox 2/3 of the Undecided's were swayed by Hitchens, in other words Hitchens won the "open minded" crowd by a 2:1 ratio.
CCRider100 1 month ago
People gush at Obama's "oratory skill". Obama would seem mentally retarded trying to hold his own against Christopher Hitchens in a debate. Sadly, sophistication of thought and speech is nowhere in America's political sphere. Wish we had the kinds of debates that Brits are used to seeing in Parliament regularly.
ezdeth 1 month ago
I really like this debate.
Hitch is brilliant as always and even if I knew before watching that he would win this debate, I have to give Blair a lot of credit for participate in this.
But.... not even a great prime minister has a chance of beating the worlds greatest debater, Christopher Hitchens!
OskarHellstroem 1 month ago
Right on for leaving the comments section open
hilldiggity 1 month ago 37
good one.
laoshapigou 1 month ago
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This video should be called "Catholic Tony Blair fails in debate loses to wiser Christopher Hitchens"...
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goldbluntz 1 month ago
Blair says some people need religion to do good, i say this just makes them weak. Religion prays on the weak minded, yes in some cases making them do good, in most other cases abhorent things based in igorance. The other point is religion leads to a greater understanding, i disagree i think religion acts a thought dictatorship towards any sought of free thinking philosophy, its supresses it's flock and demands that they do so of others. I don't think Blair is religious, not my definition of it.
XepicmeauX 1 month ago
The crowd acts to show support by laughing to great rebuttals by Hitchens but only displays that its nature is pathetic and actually religious and wanting to lessen his arguments with this act.When Blair does not rebut Hitchens's argument and passes it, remains stall and acts not.
Blair acts as if Religion and Atheism share the same weight in the horror of the past. We are going to have bigger wars because of Religion, not because lack of it!
celpabedn 1 month ago
tony blair speaks alot but says nothing.
AdeptisInfurnis 1 month ago 10
@AdeptisInfurnis Once a politician, always a politician.
ultimateZigzag 2 weeks ago
watch how many times blair looks down at his notes compared to hitchens.
iamtheubermenscher 1 month ago
These religious groups were charitable therefor they are true. - holy shit, It never ceases to amaze me how completely insane this sentiment is.
nickosharp 1 month ago
Oh for fuck sake. Quoting Mohammad the pedophile?
nickosharp 1 month ago
FUCK blood thirsty Tony Blair
EricTyce 1 month ago
i want to say "rest in peace" but Chris would probably hate it..
i have nothing but respect for this man..even though i disagree with some of his "stances" if you would say but overall, he was a man of wisdom, integrity,honesty who told it like it is..
respect
Alkindi90 1 month ago
@Alkindi90 He also didn't like being referred to as "Chris."
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hitchens was prompted to make an argument for blair by an audience member. blair then hijacked the argument and made it a statement <--- LAWL
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ddandevil67 1 month ago
procommenter is copy-pasting the same insulting and degrading comment about Hitchens' sexuality on several videos. Ignore him, he's either a troll or misinformed about us giving a damn about anyone's sexuality, past or present. What matters is your brain, which is why we don't need to mention procommenter's sexuality to say that he is a worthless human being.
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Judge the law! Acquit anyone who's being tried for violating an unconstitutional statute. The courts are established. ALL citizens must acquit defendants. It's an action that can be taken immediately. It requires no new laws. If 90% of all citizens being tried for violating unconstitutional laws were acquitted, how long would it take to turn things around?
procommenter 1 month ago
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2 MEN IN MATRIMONY...A man marrying a man? I reckon that's the gay thing to do. 2 men married to each other: 1 predominately gay, the other passionately heterosexual. One {the gay one} enjoys the homosexual lifestyle because it's all he's ever known, the other {the straight one} deplores the homosexual way because it's a life he's never known, a life he's only read about, a life his husband seldom speaks of.
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THE GYNECOLOGY OF DARKNESS [abortogenic adj. : causing abortion : ABORTIFACIENT] — [“Out of the night, two cocks together crow, Cleaving the darkness with a silver blow.” — Edward Thomas (1878-1917)]
procommenter 1 month ago
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The best camera-work entails NOT smashing the camera into the faces of the peo. being filmed. Please note that I capitalized all the letters of NOT. One of the rules of pointing out the obvious entails NOT smashing printed materials into the faces of the peo. be informed as Maryland (to Gen. Lee) wasn't exactly Laos (to Nixon) in relation to N. Vietnam nor reflective of the way Northern whites habitually sacrificed themselves for negroes in the 1860's on orders from Lincoln the melancholic.
procommenter 1 month ago
I honestly did not see that any side won or lost. In a debate like this the only real winner is humanity itself: You, me and everyone else.
Watching this debate I began to understand that with tolerance, engagement and understanding this could be the century that humans come together and create alot more 'good' in the world.
guymedia2012 1 month ago
Major Intelligence vs Not so much
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Wikipedia: Hitchens has written of his homosexual experiences when in boarding school in his memoir, "Hitch-22." These experiences continued in his college years when he allegedly had relationships with two men who eventually became a part of the Thatcher government.
Was sodomite Christ' Hitchens' hollow death an early Christmas gift, or retribution for the total-war that he endorsed against the mothers & children of the Arab sphere?
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guerrillaroach 1 month ago in playlist Religious Debate
@procommenter What a disgusting and narrow minded point you make. Sexual preferences neither affect the intelligence nor goodness of a person. Hitchens, rallied against backward religious dogma holding so much of the world back, including the Middle East. Mothers and Children are abused all the time in the name of religion. Hitchens, simply advocated for strong solutions, as many hawks do. You Sir are sick!
guerrillaroach 1 month ago in playlist Religious Debate
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@guerrillaroach :
Is this the best you can do? Have you learned nothing from your prison experience?
procommenter 1 month ago
@procommenter Hitchens' death was neither hollow nor retribution for anything. He may have had homosexual experiences but could hardly be called a "sodomite." Referring to him as one is a cheap shot. You're probably a closet case...
yardgoods 1 month ago 4
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@yardgoods : Your boyfriend has crapped out. Move on.
procommenter 1 month ago
Laughing and joking with a mass-murderer ...I just lost a huge amount of respect for Hitchins
RFID666 1 month ago
Christopher Hitchens should have been president of the US.
EmotionalIntrovert 1 month ago 3
cool story bro
LiLTthatsme 1 month ago
Tony Blair only held 1 argument in this debate... Religious people did some worse things but some good things aswell!
resparee 1 month ago 41
@resparee I agree. He couldn't escape from his singular argument
arsovatiticus 1 month ago
@resparee and also "look at all the bad stuff secularists do!"
iamtheubermenscher 1 month ago
The Bible says that God resurrected Jesus. Well, if he wants to do something really useful, he should resurrect Hitchens.
fusedchromosome 1 month ago 151
@fusedchromosome Totally agree
arsovatiticus 1 month ago
@fusedchromosome Haha that comment fucking killed me v.n v.n
MeeuwtjeMovies 1 month ago
@fusedchromosome That would infuriate Hitchens though... ;) RIP :'(
wilbermoremonticore 1 month ago
@fusedchromosome I though only religious people were stupid, I was wrong.
gnossticc 1 month ago
@fusedchromosome Fuck yeah.
Kevin32001 1 month ago
It boggles my mind to the extent of bush era retardation that " X amount of charities are based in religion" is a positive argument. As many have stated before: How did religion make those initiatives better in any way?
nickosharp 1 month ago
@fusedchromosome Incorrect. "God" did not resurrect Jesus, in the sense that with that phrasing you imply Jesus as separate from the term "God." Jesus Christ is the Son and is different from the Father. However, Jesus resurrected himself, since he is God, and in his own words, had the power to lay down and raise up his own life. Who knows where Hitchens ended up, hopefully with God.
celticwomanfan01 1 month ago
@celticwomanfan01 "he is God" but "is different from the Father," and talks to himself with nonsensical questions like "why have you forsaken me?" I believe the medical term is "multiple personality disorder." He must have been off his meds during the whole "I think I'll get myself (or is it my other self) crucified in order to pay my own blood debt for sins that haven't even been committed yet." It's entertaining to watch the mental gymnastics, but, quoting Hitchens, it's "white noise."
fusedchromosome 1 month ago
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"Who knows where Hitchens ended up..."
That was the only "intellectually honest" part of that entire comment. The rest was just unsupported assertions. Ironically, theists of every color and stripe have been making these kinds of supernatural claims for thousands of years without the slightest hesitation. The funny thing is the less they know about the natural world, the more confident they are in their "knowledge" about the supernatural. Go figure!
fusedchromosome 1 month ago
@fusedchromosome why would God resurrect someone who doesn't think hes real?
300pzl 1 month ago
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"why would God resurrect someone who doesn't think hes real?"
Seriously?
fusedchromosome 1 month ago
@300pzl He's saying it would be more beneficial to society. -_-
ObscureHarmonic 4 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
Every religion has historically positioned itself as an equivalent for slavery, hatred, war and (or) irrational thinking, under a charity disguise, none of which is a good thing for any rational man or woman, or for any other human being that would not want to be rational. Religion has been, again and again, a fight for imposition of irrational ideology to others to obtain power....
1984serpiente 1 month ago
@1984serpiente Hinduism,Parsi,Buddhism,Sikhism and Jainism have not,learn your damned history
ramatirthadasa 1 week ago
Religion doesn't help reach out to people. People reach out to people...for whatever cause, whether you do it for your religion or feelings of good. People still are the ones who do it. God doesn't do anything...esp. since he doesn' exist.
BamfFromLA 1 month ago
George W Bush and Tony Blair: TWO CRIMINALS, TWO LUNATICS, TWO HORRIBLE HUMAN BEINGS who should be in jail for the rest of their wicked and mediocre lives for the killings of thousands and thousands of innocent people.
SHAME ON YOU TONY BLAIR. SHAME ON YOU, DISGUSTING GEORGE W BUSH.
Hitchens supported the war in Iraq, unfortunately. No one is perfect.
Hitchens will be missed.
Tony Blair and George W Bush, please die soon.
otavioandradas 1 month ago
@otavioandradas Pretty harsh huh?
BamfFromLA 1 month ago
@BamfFromLA not quite, not quite.
Unfortunately, I don't have enough courage to kill these two criminals myself. I do consider that killing people is very harsh, though. Also, I'd lose the rest of my life because of the criminal acts of two morons. Wishing their deaths is nothing in comparison to the harm they've done. I've never wished bad things to people, but these two mass-murderers are exceptions. I firmly believe that the world will be a much better place without their evil presence.
otavioandradas 1 month ago
@otavioandradas What, what did Blair do that was so wrong?
Roflcopter4b 3 weeks ago
@Roflcopter4b authorizing and supporting an invasion that killed thousands and thousands of innocents - and doing so based on lies such as the WMD fallacy - is very much wrong.
Tony Blair is a criminal. He and his demented pal George Bush ought to be in jail right now.
And NO, I did not support Saddam Hussein's regime, far from it. BUT we are in the 21st century. Bush and Blair are two coward medieval mass murderers.
otavioandradas 3 weeks ago
@otavioandradas Bush used that as his flawed Casus Belli. I don't believe Blair did. Of course this was a breach of international law, and the war went on for far too long, but the intentions of the war were essentially good, at least on Blair's side. Bush is indeed a war criminal.
Roflcopter4b 3 weeks ago
@Roflcopter4b He made an ass of himself in front of millions of people
ramatirthadasa 1 week ago
who won?
Micklol 1 month ago
@Micklol HITCHENS, with a very large margin...
otavioandradas 1 month ago
I miss Hitch :(
SkyFortStudios 1 month ago 2
I would not be surprised if Blair only agreed to this because he knew that Hitchens would not criticise him on his religious beliefs with regard to his decision to attack Iraq
(although he's such a fucking snake that I strongly suspect he uses the religious thing as a cover, to conveniently explain away an otherwise rather dubious decision to invade).
Blair knew Hitchens was one of the very few prominent free-thinking intellectuals who agrees with him on Iraq and wouldn't challenge him on it.
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