Hey @Stefbot just how much are you talking about yourself here as well? I mean, you want to convince people that social darwinism and the private ownership of other people's labor under wage slavery are good, while you suck the teat of corporations that take our tax money, amirite?
well then who decides moral code? i do agree that the government perpetrate the same evils on us that we are not allowed to perpetrate on each other, but who assigns the moral code that stefbot is assigning to us?
@Miner49erize-with all do respect(not that you give us any), you and people like you are the reason we are in this mess. you refuse to see the truth, you refuse to listen, you refuse to ask question, you refuse to look at the documents that back up our "conspiracies". i dont blame you, you have been conditioned to shut out the world, conditioned to laugh at people or so called "conspiracy theorists" because modern movies mock them and make them seem crazy. its called mind control.
I liked the video for the main point but I think some of the individual examples were a bit off. for example taxes are needed to provide services for the people so I don't think you can really attack it as being akin to stealing. I think you can criticise where the money goes and consider some of that money stolen, but not taxes as a whole.
@uaenruotel you miss the point! Unless I have voluntarily surrendered my property for taxes it is still theft regardless of what you call it and regardless of what your stated need may be. Is a man holding a gun to my head while demanding my wallet any less of a thief if he does so while explaining the need to feed his poor, starving children?
@rickrobeAK I disagree, there are certain services that you use up just by living in a country, such as the protection given by the police, they might not be defending you from murderers at the moment but they do provide security for the neighbourhood. Also there are many services that need to be funded and if you gave people the option of whether or not to pay taxes most people wouldn't. so in order for a society to function, mandatory taxes are necesary
@uaenruotel Exactly... I'm surprised how many people either forget this or reject it (unthinkingly) outright.
This kind of video makes me sad, mostly, because there are some important lessons to be learned about society, power, etc., but it is then framed in an extreme and flawed argument. I fear there is no way to get the conversation back to reason. At this point, in the US, the extreme conservative libertarianism is so rampant. Society is about practical objectives not philosophies.
Well made video, but I'd like to point out that universal morality can have exceptions based on the context of a given situation or under certain conditions, that is to say that the rules apply everywhere but exceptions are allowable. Absolute morality, by contrast, not only applies universal but does so without allowing any exceptions of any kind, ever.
I believe nothing. I know little. I think much. My thoughts are that evil and good cannot exist, because "right" is not always "good", nor is "wrong" "bad". So, looking into what will be socially accepted, what is "right", how much is not "wrong" at all? Or say, Good always wins against Evil in stories. If Good kills Evil, is Evil the victim, and therefore Good evil? I love videos like these that use logic, not social standards, to make their point.
If those in power create rules to control you. The question shouldn't be, "Are our freedoms lost?" The question should be, "Do those rules keep us safe, and defend our human rights?" I believe an evil person is one who removes innocence from another. Hurting innocent people is evil to me. What about hurting someone who has hurt you - revenge? Is revenge good or evil? I say it depends on who has the power.
@maidenak Ok, be nice if you would point out why this video is absurd & why you think it presents no proof & not merely stating it hasn't. Who said anything about history this is the method they are currently using to control the masses. I'm assuming your religious but so are many who claim to be & who talk about God but in plain site of evil they do nothing. How many innocents have died in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Palestine in current times through War. What have you & your God done about it?
Holy shit, stef. May I say I love you? Platonically, that is. I'm not gay. Sucks that people have to clarify that these days. Why can't we freely express non-sexual love anymore?
@taylort123 the doublethink never ceases to amaze me. Did you read what you wrote before you clicked Post? Read it slowly and out loud, maybe that will help. Good luck.
@maidenak yes I did, and its astounding that you havent taken notice of the evolution of morality as a tool for power. thats what this video broke down. try re reading before you post
You said, "not a history but its 100% accurate". That's doublethink my friend. Two contradictory thoughts being maintained simultaneously. And this blasphemous video is absolutely absurd. For one thing, there is no proof presented, its merely a made-up story that can only be accepted by the weak-minded. Evil did not come first, evil is the absence of good, just like darkness is merely the absence of light. Darkness = no light. Evil = no good. Light and Good are the Absolutes, not evil.
anarcist? stay off the roads and beaches please. my gladly paid tax dollars will keep them going because life is not black and white absolutes... unless you're a fear based personality. just please don't spread the unresolved trauma.
@pheowobbo Sometimes an absolute may prove necessary. Circumstances can arise where a moderate approach applies, and circumstances can arise where we find it necessary to draw the line in the sand and take a stand.
Don't steal, the government hate's the competition.
You know what the problem is? (ya ya I'm going to tell you) The problem is the Powers-That-Be have grown to comfortable. Justifiably so I might add. Well men it's time to let the animal out, assuming of course you still have that capability.
The system of government we all live under is insanity... The trick is figuring out a way to convince the insane to stop drinking the kool-aide of insanity.
Those that are seem in the eyes of good must be deemed as evil . Those that show the bad must be thought as good. Those that provide the good will be the evil's that have already sink further then the depths of hell. Those that change us and gives us knowledge are the ones that corrupted us. Would life be different if humans never attempt to consume the fruit of knowledge. We take our sides and our futures will be changed.
... and thus took money by force! I asked her how could she sleep at night?! She didn't know what to say! In fact she said nothing and promptly returned to her van and drove off!.... I wonder to myself, have I planted a little seed of doubt? She seemed rather surprised to of been confronted, anyway After this I went to a site called captain ranty. He had an article saying that public sector workers were scum because they are crying about their pensions and wanting him to pat for it!....
... and thus took money by force! I asked her how could she sleep at night?! She didn't know what to say! In fact she said nothing and promptly returned to her van and drove off!.... I wonder to myself, have I planted a little seed of doubt? She seemed rather surprised to of been confronted, anyway After this I went to a site called captain ranty. He had an article saying that public sector workers were scum because they are crying about their pensions and wanting him to pat for it!....
I've been trying it lately and getting some strange results... Basically i've been fairly brazen with people recently, For instance I saw a BBC van outside my house (I'm in the UK obviously) and so I put one of their threatening letters under the wind screen wipers! I waited for them to return and I saw a lady come back with a puzzled look on her face, she took the envelope and put it over my fence. I confronted her and informed her that she was a thief because she worked for the BBC.....
Hmmmm I think you have this twisted a bit stefan, governments flout the moral rules definitely! But that does not mean moral rules were created to somehow aid the government! It still does not explain why people do not see the government as immoral... I believe morals to be built into us, we all know that murder is wrong! Because we ourselves would not wish to be murdered, No one had to invent the notion! You see I think we should use morals as our main weapon!
No, dear; people support blatant violations of moral rules because of the vicarious psychological satisfaction of identifying with the perpetrator of the "legal force" while pretending to be righteous. It's called hypocrisy.
I don't think anyone had even thought of paper money when "thou shalt not steal," thou shalt not murder," etc. were first accepted as the basis for a free society. All liberty is based on non-aggression. The only legitimate purpose of the STATE is to enforce individual's negative rights, like not to be murdered, stolen from, etc. I'm all about Ending the FED, but I believe the cart is in front of the horse here.
Morality is fine. And I dont think it's an invention of a man. Some people think that they are beyond morality - thats the problem I think. Not the morality by itself.
Morality does serve a purpose. It's the only way most people might enjoy life. That the state murders and steals and is the most powerful doesn't make morality wrong. Bureaucrat after bureaucrat all throughout history, since before the Roman empire even, they were all delivered to death, the worst of them by heinous imposition by the same empire they served. If history isn't a statement against immorality, I don't know what is.
Morality does serve a purpose. It's the only way most people might enjoy life. That the state murders and steals and is the most powerful doesn't make morality wrong. Bureaucrat after bureaucrat all throughout history, since before the Roman empire even, they were all delivered to death, the worst of them by heinous imposition by the same empire they served. If history isn't a statement against immorality, I don't know what is.
@StPetePussPatrol So, is this a broad view of violence or narrow? Are you saying that if we ceased committing violence against eachother (or even a step further, the initiation of force against other humans) then we would stop evolving? I am really curious now, sorry if "you aren't serious" sounded trollish or came across as rude. These short comment boxes get me conveying things poorly from time to time.
I'm confused about the use of the video clip of the guy faking his electrocution... how is that relevant to the subject being discussed? I'm probably not seeing it, so any tip throwing me over the edge of understanding would be appreciated. ;-)
Good vid and good morality values shown and how TPTB have taken us down the primrose path to our destruction and vilification by them. It surely is Orwellian philosophy which we are being attacked with all the time these days. Right is wrong and wrong is right. They just change the names. Wars are righteous because TPTB are waging them aganist "bad" people when in reality it's innocents who are dying in them for the gains of TPTB gangsters who control us. Thanks. Love to all. Keep an open mind.
I LIKE this. It reminds me of something. Once I was in a grocery store "minding my own business", I got lost in the soap aisle and as I walked along I overheard two women speaking a foreign language, TRUTH. I am serious, and it was in public no less.
Well, as I was being nosey, a hobby of mine. Don't act like you have never done it. I heard one of the ladies say to the other, "Oh yeah, that is like those fears we call faith." Those words opened my eyes and my life would never be the same
Your point is well taken! Thanks! It take a rocket scientist to notice that though there are stringent laws and admonishments curtailing many of the natural inclinations of the population, the ruling class is known to indulge in any activity and business practice they please with impunity. Thanks for posting this video.
This video is an interesting but paranoid theory. There are holes in it. Religious books ban murder but praise wars. Same can be said for violence and taxation. Groups of people had rules against violence and stealing, and then paradoxically they used violence to enforce those rules even before government was a concept. You can't have organization without rules. Even criminal organizations had internal rules against inter-member violence and crime and those are enforced with violence and crime.
I think I am missing the 'property rights' portion ?? As well, while I understand the premise of this, being a long time listener, I think there are many places where new people who might consider morals to be 'inherent' in humanity could be confused. As if ethic and morals would not exist without the juxtaposition? I would love to send this to friends, but I feel it would open up arguments/holes not qualified. They have already brought up with Stef property rights issues.
@Illthak His argument is that morality was made to justify power, but there's always an inherent contradiction in the justification. In other videos, he's always pointing out these contradictions and argues that sticking to a consistent morality is the way to freedom.
If you're still curious and care to find out more, check out his other videos or website. He's not against morality. He's actually worked out his own ethical theory called 'Universally Preferable Behavior' and the book is free.
It is very hard, hard to the point of a kind of cruelty, to get the average guy, who is pretty nice and harmless for the most part, and of good will towards all in the main, to even look at the state of mind of those in power, who turn all morality to evil, murder as they smile and wave to the cameras, and more or less cause all the trouble in the world, though they are insignificant in number. But Stef is the guy to do it, and it does need doing, I say. And he's not alone!
I don't think I have every met one person who would believe the truth no matter how you explained it to them.
At least I have not heard it articulated in a way that would convince a single person I have ever met.
I almost have my brother convinced but he brings up that countries in Europe with heavy socialist governments have the highest happiness scores in census polls taken from around the world.
I think this is a really terrible video. You can believe that the government is a terrible hypocritical organization without engaging in a ridiculous attack on morality itself.
You seem to attack a notion of ethics that you would be hardpressed to find a philosopher actually subscribes to.
@Epydemic2020 I believe he is making the case that the "ruling elites" want everybody to follow a universal morality but then convince everybody else that they are better off for letting there be an exception (for the rulers, of course). Stef has always spoken very highly of the concept of morality to my knowledge.
"The most brilliant theives invent property rights"
He is calling John Locke a brilliant thief. What he should be saying, if he takes your approach, is that the government merely hijacks this concept of rights and then twists it in some way to suit their ends. That is just one example, but the whole video goes on repeating that same notion that morality is nothing but a government invention.
Almost all moral theories (except Kant) factor into circumstances. You could consider this factoring in circumstances as "making exceptions" if you insist upon only using really vague moral principles like "don't steal". The problem is now what having exceptions to vague moral rules, but with having unjustified exceptions.
If you want to avoid exceptions, just make very specific moral claims (like "killing non-consenting people solely for entertainment is wrong")
@Epydemic2020 Of course, that's the grain argument against absolutist principles. The thing that Stef and other libertarians would attempt to do is discover what underlies all of our ad hoc, "this is wrong" reasoning at least when it comes to social problems. If we agree that theft, murder, and fraud is wrong, what is the principle that makes it so? The initiation of aggression. Libertarians wouldn't say killing is wrong, they would say murder is wrong.
@Epydemic2020 Of course, if the parasitic class (i.e., government) says, "you, citizen, can never steal!", they are obviously making an egregious exception in the case for themselves. To say, one cannot steal unless one is a tax collector, is not a moral rule against theft since it would legitimize it in this instance. It fails a universalizability test miserably.
The fact that the american gov is fucked up doesn't mean it's by design. And about morality.. your reasoning wont get you very far with anything that isnt just black and white.
Stef, you should compose and send a letter to Sam Harris refuting his new book "The Moral Landscape." I could do it, as his premise is pretty week and he seems to think that the mind is not the self (odd for a neuroscientist) but you could do it so much better than me.
Criminality starts at the top of the social construct.Wealth causes poverty. Govt. (rulers) sets all standards of pay and constraints to production so it can keep profits high for its own combines. It's the ruling elite that hoard,are greedy, want total control, that has mostly the unearned,wants to be admired and worshipped for their fake benevolence confirred with stolen lucre in exchange for souls, that keeps score. Government is vile and should be strongly curtailed. Profane wealth = evil.
Criminality starts at the top of the social construct.Wealth causes poverty. Govt. (rulers) sets all standards of pay and constraints to production so it can keep profits high for its own combines. It's the ruling elite that hoard,are greedy, want total control, that has mostly the unearned,wants to be admired and worshipped for their fake benevolence confirred with stolen lucre in exchange for souls, that keeps score. Government is vile and should be strongly curtailed. Profane wealth = evil.
Why on earth do we even need governments? Why can't people be free to live their lives they way they want too? And even if most people want one, is what we currently really what was intended?
Stef, I wholeheartedly enjoy you anti-state videos. They reach the standard of "anarchist-porn", and I mean that in the most positive sense and hope you're not offended.
However, I feel like where you've really shown the value of what you have to tell is in your relationship videos ... I've noticed you're not doing them quite so often anymore, at least not on youtube. Just know there would be one person rooting for more videos like that! :)
Maybe we should strikeout "taxation" from the English dictionary. That way they have to call it by what it really is. Then again, they'll probably call it "voluntary redistribution of wealth" instead, and I'd rather not strikeout "voluntary" or any of its variants from language.
I do not understand your reference to 'property rights' in a negative context. The state did not invent property rights. The guy who first made a nice club for himself invented property rights when he objected to other people simply taking away the fruits of his labor. Surely you do not mean that we should all simply accept that everyone can take anything they want, that in effect we can all be thieves and it will be fine because property rights are illegitimate?
@Panpiper I think he means property rights as something given by gvt written down in a law. It is indeed unclear. He does believe in the concept of property (unless he changed his mind). Same thing happened with morality. He has a theory of ethics called UPB, but it seems from this video morality is a tool of bad guys. Not clear if he changed his mind.
You have no idea how brainwashed you are have you?
It's sad that you have so little respect or even recognition for someone with so much integrity, such high moral standing, who is so right on so many issues in so many ways, which is why he is leading by far in the elections...Ron Paul.
Put it this way... If Ron Paul doesn't win in 2012 & one of those real "joke" politicians get elected then I would definately recomend getting out of the USA while you can.
Ron Paul isn't leading. He's behind Rick Perry and Mitt Romney, and far behind Barack Obama. He's a joke, a hypocrite, and has a totally incoherent political philosophy.
"Who is right on so many issues"
Let's take a look at what the world would be like if we followed Ron Paul's advice over the last 20 years. Saddam Hussein would still be the private owner of an oppressed, scared populace..
...further, he would have annexed and abolished an independent, sovereign state that was a member of the Arab league. Slobodan Milosevic would still be in power, Bosnia and Kosovo would be part of a greater Serbia and be ethnically cleansed. The Taliban would still be the lords of Afghanistan, and Al-Qaeda their guests.
@migkillertwo "Let's take a look at what the world would be like if we followed Ron Paul's advice over the last 20 years. Saddam Hussein would still be the private owner of an oppressed, scared populace.."
No he would not, because he would not have gotten funding and weapons from the us gvt. Same for OBL's CIA training and funding.
A million people died in Irak, 500000 children died because of Madeleine Albright's blokkade. I'm sure they were quite happy with the intervention.
'oppressed scared populace.' a couple of days ago 51 people died when bombs exploded in 7 cities. over a million died so far, 3 million displaced. do you think they would pick iraq of the late 80s, or iraq after the liberation? also, did you ask the iraqies whether they wanted your help? the media and politician likes you to think a certain way, builds you a manufactured reality, a delusion, they manipulate you, and like the mental slave that you are, you don't even know it.
No it's actually a fact if one evaluates all the evidence. The best source on iraq war casualties places civilian casualities at around 150,000. Saddam killed AT LEAST that many Kurds and at least that many shiites in his reign of terror. Furthermore, Saddam used the UN sanctions to starve his own people, which killed over a million iraqis.
The iraq liberation was far, FAR too late and should have happened in 1992.
the best source? which is....the pentagon? give me break. the most accepted death toll is by Lancet which said that 5 years ago 650000 died. We can say that since bombs have not stopped going off, it is just the journalists who have stopped talking about it, that the figure is over a million now. the ones who need to be stopped in their reign of terror is Western governments. They have already killed 50k Libyans. And many more over the years.
The Iraqi ministry of health, which has the verifiable deaths from Iraq.
"THe most accepted death toll is by Lancet"
The Lancet "toll" is a phone survey. Similar analyses place the number FAR lower. The survey is complete bullshit, it means that the Iraqi ministry of health has, somehow, forgot that they issued 600,000 death certificates. The amount of VERIFIED deaths stands at a mere 150,000.
@migkillertwo The 150,000 thousand casualties is just the people who were murdered. Lets not forget about the roughly 6 million that have died from starvation and preventable diseases as a result of their food and water sources being bombed to shit. All of the doctors and professionals are fleeing the country instead of treating patients because it's so dangerous in Iraq now. Is this your idea of liberation??
"the roughly 6 million that have died from starvation and preventable diseases"
Do you have even a shred of evidence for that claim? That is an enormous estimate especially considering the fact that globalization has largely eradicated the problem of famines in open economies. The absolute highest death toll is at 1.2 million, but that survey is bullshit anyway.
FACT: there have only been 150,000 deaths CONFIRMED in the iraq war.
@migkillertwo Saddam hussain = CIA asset on US govt.payroll double agent just like hitler was a brittish double agent. The real joke politicians are the ones who want to take everybodies guns, property rights, free speech, & basic human rights & replace them with mandatory forced inoculations by injection of dangerous concoctions, carbon taxes, more & more debt., war mongering, death, GMOs, & basicly turn the country into a prison slave camp. You need to get a fucking grip on reality idiot
@migkillertwo BTW I don't know where you get your info from lol but last time I checked Ron Paul was leading by a long long way ahead of the psychopathic puppet joker monster fake bankster employed actors who call themselves politicians.
I am a private floor layer, so Im in a different house just about everyday and I did a floor for a US Postal Inspector and I asked him "Factually what's the difference between taxation and theft", so he thought for about 5 seconds and said "None"-And every time you get the same damn response "But who will build the roads"?
And For mrtomashorvath-If people with guns did not drive around and point guns at you and make you believe in govt.-that concept would disappear
If men trained in martial arts drove around in cars with cages, and had bat belts full of deadly weapons and pointed them at you in the name of "Santa Clause"-you would believe that Santa was real too. Or the "Easter Bunny" for that matter. How do you not see the coercion and violence to make you believe in fictions. Govt. is a mental abstract that has to be taught(Keyword TAUGHT) for you to believe it.
Brilliant! Stef, one suggestion. I always watch your videos while in lunch break... Any way they could have "softer" images or just a white screen, the important content is what you say, I don't think anyone needs to see a dying animal or a dead person to understand the immorality of the State=violence. I'll try to swallow now.... (hope you consider this a constructive commentary)
So no one will steal once we live under corporate feudalism? The problem is the concentration and unaccountability of power, not the state per se. A democracy and democratic state are preferable to a plutocratic state or corporate feudalism. Lemmings and the ignorant too often confuse issues pertaining to the exercise of power with issues pertaining to the state its self; blaming the state for ills that are the consequence of oligarchy, capitalism, imperialism etc.
Another incredible video. I don't always agree with you, but the state as it is has to go. I will be including a link to this video in my afternoon show.
"In order for us to accept such madness, the wheels of our minds must be broken by indoctrination."
I have been awoken and cannot go back to sleep nor do I desire to. The ideas of truth and reality are making it progressively more difficult to exist within a world defined by deception and violence. Old me yields to Diogenes.
Wow. Powerful. I like how you speak slowly and pause between sentences. Each one is thought-provoking. Even still, I have to replay the video a few times because not all of it sunk in. This style is probably the antithesis of something like the mainstream news, which is a mile and minute yet still devoid of any real content.
I am a big fan of most of your work on FDR but when you talk about morality it confuses me. Morality has only ever been used for things that people like us don't like. You accept this, but then you say that YOU CAN use morality for good. Why can you wear the ring of power and not be corrupted. everyone you want to reach is already mostly rational and values peace and prosperity - and there are solid cause and effect arguments for how to get to those - so the moral argument are moot anyway
I haven't read nietzsche yet, but if this is how he argued then continental philosophy is dead and should have been buried long ago. This entire video is nothing one string of ad homs and strawmen.
So good!
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jjdelg 3 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
Hey @Stefbot just how much are you talking about yourself here as well? I mean, you want to convince people that social darwinism and the private ownership of other people's labor under wage slavery are good, while you suck the teat of corporations that take our tax money, amirite?
Laughingblades 3 weeks ago
well then who decides moral code? i do agree that the government perpetrate the same evils on us that we are not allowed to perpetrate on each other, but who assigns the moral code that stefbot is assigning to us?
JpassTheTime 1 month ago
In my life so far, ive only found a select minority of people who see things like i do. Stef, you are one of them.
MrDoobious 1 month ago
I used to be an crazy psychopath conspiracy theorist like you, then I took an arrow in the knee.
Miner49erize 1 month ago
@Miner49erize oh fuck off.
Andysbat 1 month ago
@Miner49erize-with all do respect(not that you give us any), you and people like you are the reason we are in this mess. you refuse to see the truth, you refuse to listen, you refuse to ask question, you refuse to look at the documents that back up our "conspiracies". i dont blame you, you have been conditioned to shut out the world, conditioned to laugh at people or so called "conspiracy theorists" because modern movies mock them and make them seem crazy. its called mind control.
unrevealedskill 3 weeks ago
this makes Keaneu sad
majorcornwallace 2 months ago
@majorcornwallace ha ha ha this makes me laugh "the solution is in the premise" HA HA HA pre hoc ergo propter hoc
majorcornwallace 2 months ago
I liked the video for the main point but I think some of the individual examples were a bit off. for example taxes are needed to provide services for the people so I don't think you can really attack it as being akin to stealing. I think you can criticise where the money goes and consider some of that money stolen, but not taxes as a whole.
uaenruotel 2 months ago
@uaenruotel you miss the point! Unless I have voluntarily surrendered my property for taxes it is still theft regardless of what you call it and regardless of what your stated need may be. Is a man holding a gun to my head while demanding my wallet any less of a thief if he does so while explaining the need to feed his poor, starving children?
rickrobeAK 2 months ago
@rickrobeAK I disagree, there are certain services that you use up just by living in a country, such as the protection given by the police, they might not be defending you from murderers at the moment but they do provide security for the neighbourhood. Also there are many services that need to be funded and if you gave people the option of whether or not to pay taxes most people wouldn't. so in order for a society to function, mandatory taxes are necesary
uaenruotel 2 months ago
@uaenruotel Exactly... I'm surprised how many people either forget this or reject it (unthinkingly) outright.
This kind of video makes me sad, mostly, because there are some important lessons to be learned about society, power, etc., but it is then framed in an extreme and flawed argument. I fear there is no way to get the conversation back to reason. At this point, in the US, the extreme conservative libertarianism is so rampant. Society is about practical objectives not philosophies.
majorcornwallace 2 months ago
BRILLIANT ANALYSIS
willywillyization 2 months ago
Well made video, but I'd like to point out that universal morality can have exceptions based on the context of a given situation or under certain conditions, that is to say that the rules apply everywhere but exceptions are allowable. Absolute morality, by contrast, not only applies universal but does so without allowing any exceptions of any kind, ever.
DRAKULU 3 months ago
Its not fascism when my team does it.
chuck3377 3 months ago
I believe nothing. I know little. I think much. My thoughts are that evil and good cannot exist, because "right" is not always "good", nor is "wrong" "bad". So, looking into what will be socially accepted, what is "right", how much is not "wrong" at all? Or say, Good always wins against Evil in stories. If Good kills Evil, is Evil the victim, and therefore Good evil? I love videos like these that use logic, not social standards, to make their point.
UkeUchiwa 3 months ago
If those in power create rules to control you. The question shouldn't be, "Are our freedoms lost?" The question should be, "Do those rules keep us safe, and defend our human rights?" I believe an evil person is one who removes innocence from another. Hurting innocent people is evil to me. What about hurting someone who has hurt you - revenge? Is revenge good or evil? I say it depends on who has the power.
mocurio 3 months ago
I'm stoned and this is blowing my mind right now.
berserkz0r 3 months ago 2
@berserkz0r lmfao I love how people always watch stuff like this stoned.
RetroTheSkywalker 2 months ago in playlist More videos from stefbot
@maidenak Ok, be nice if you would point out why this video is absurd & why you think it presents no proof & not merely stating it hasn't. Who said anything about history this is the method they are currently using to control the masses. I'm assuming your religious but so are many who claim to be & who talk about God but in plain site of evil they do nothing. How many innocents have died in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Palestine in current times through War. What have you & your God done about it?
RaykwonDaKilluminati 3 months ago
wow so many stupid points... holyfuck
ADOG51412 4 months ago
Holy shit, stef. May I say I love you? Platonically, that is. I'm not gay. Sucks that people have to clarify that these days. Why can't we freely express non-sexual love anymore?
LastStand2010 4 months ago 2
@LastStand2010 yes - and thanks you! :)
stefbot 4 months ago
@stefbot You're certainly welcome. Keep on rockin'!
LastStand2010 4 months ago
No, this is not anywhere close to "true history".
maidenak 4 months ago
@maidenak well no its not a history but its 100% accurate in describing how its evolved
taylort123 4 months ago
@taylort123 the doublethink never ceases to amaze me. Did you read what you wrote before you clicked Post? Read it slowly and out loud, maybe that will help. Good luck.
maidenak 4 months ago
@maidenak yes I did, and its astounding that you havent taken notice of the evolution of morality as a tool for power. thats what this video broke down. try re reading before you post
taylort123 4 months ago
You said, "not a history but its 100% accurate". That's doublethink my friend. Two contradictory thoughts being maintained simultaneously. And this blasphemous video is absolutely absurd. For one thing, there is no proof presented, its merely a made-up story that can only be accepted by the weak-minded. Evil did not come first, evil is the absence of good, just like darkness is merely the absence of light. Darkness = no light. Evil = no good. Light and Good are the Absolutes, not evil.
maidenak 4 months ago
@taylort123 Check out w w w dot Proof That God Exists dot org.
maidenak 4 months ago
Moral relativism leads to complete societal disintegration. You have been warned.
riethc 4 months ago
@riethc
Yes, excellent! Threaten and warn - that's is the most evil good path. Thank you!
AnEvilMan666 2 months ago
wow this was deep ......check this /watch?v=jOTAPU-UqFY
KhanQSolomon 5 months ago
anarcist? stay off the roads and beaches please. my gladly paid tax dollars will keep them going because life is not black and white absolutes... unless you're a fear based personality. just please don't spread the unresolved trauma.
pheowobbo 5 months ago
@pheowobbo Sometimes an absolute may prove necessary. Circumstances can arise where a moderate approach applies, and circumstances can arise where we find it necessary to draw the line in the sand and take a stand.
Personally I am against all wars.
landgabriel 4 months ago
Don't steal, the government hate's the competition.
You know what the problem is? (ya ya I'm going to tell you) The problem is the Powers-That-Be have grown to comfortable. Justifiably so I might add. Well men it's time to let the animal out, assuming of course you still have that capability.
wisdomtrek 5 months ago
Complete horse shit
MaxamillianArturo 5 months ago
The system of government we all live under is insanity... The trick is figuring out a way to convince the insane to stop drinking the kool-aide of insanity.
batfly 5 months ago 4
He sounds like william schatner when he so ok alright theft is wrong... so on and so forth...
maleavail 5 months ago
Happy Birthday Stef!
mikedurland 5 months ago
Those that are seem in the eyes of good must be deemed as evil . Those that show the bad must be thought as good. Those that provide the good will be the evil's that have already sink further then the depths of hell. Those that change us and gives us knowledge are the ones that corrupted us. Would life be different if humans never attempt to consume the fruit of knowledge. We take our sides and our futures will be changed.
Livevilification 5 months ago
What's next? Let*s refuse now!!!
a49614 5 months ago
this evening I was was looking for my copy of Plato's Republic to inform my writing but couldn't find it. Oh the humanity.
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... and thus took money by force! I asked her how could she sleep at night?! She didn't know what to say! In fact she said nothing and promptly returned to her van and drove off!.... I wonder to myself, have I planted a little seed of doubt? She seemed rather surprised to of been confronted, anyway After this I went to a site called captain ranty. He had an article saying that public sector workers were scum because they are crying about their pensions and wanting him to pat for it!....
snaz27 5 months ago
... and thus took money by force! I asked her how could she sleep at night?! She didn't know what to say! In fact she said nothing and promptly returned to her van and drove off!.... I wonder to myself, have I planted a little seed of doubt? She seemed rather surprised to of been confronted, anyway After this I went to a site called captain ranty. He had an article saying that public sector workers were scum because they are crying about their pensions and wanting him to pat for it!....
snaz27 5 months ago
I've been trying it lately and getting some strange results... Basically i've been fairly brazen with people recently, For instance I saw a BBC van outside my house (I'm in the UK obviously) and so I put one of their threatening letters under the wind screen wipers! I waited for them to return and I saw a lady come back with a puzzled look on her face, she took the envelope and put it over my fence. I confronted her and informed her that she was a thief because she worked for the BBC.....
snaz27 5 months ago
Hmmmm I think you have this twisted a bit stefan, governments flout the moral rules definitely! But that does not mean moral rules were created to somehow aid the government! It still does not explain why people do not see the government as immoral... I believe morals to be built into us, we all know that murder is wrong! Because we ourselves would not wish to be murdered, No one had to invent the notion! You see I think we should use morals as our main weapon!
snaz27 5 months ago
Sure, govermental schools can indoctrinate, just like a private school. It's the same shit!
NobiscumDeus1 5 months ago
awesome job on yet another great vid, stefan! will definitely share.
solidarity!
syk0saje 5 months ago
The government works for the economic elite.
danzigstorer 5 months ago
@danzigstorer yes, but not for much longer
stefbot 5 months ago 7
Stef hits the nail on the head - AGAIN! Woo-hoo.
wilster200 5 months ago
No, dear; people support blatant violations of moral rules because of the vicarious psychological satisfaction of identifying with the perpetrator of the "legal force" while pretending to be righteous. It's called hypocrisy.
crazyforcanada 5 months ago
I don't think anyone had even thought of paper money when "thou shalt not steal," thou shalt not murder," etc. were first accepted as the basis for a free society. All liberty is based on non-aggression. The only legitimate purpose of the STATE is to enforce individual's negative rights, like not to be murdered, stolen from, etc. I'm all about Ending the FED, but I believe the cart is in front of the horse here.
MrEasypoint 5 months ago
Morality is fine. And I dont think it's an invention of a man. Some people think that they are beyond morality - thats the problem I think. Not the morality by itself.
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Morality does serve a purpose. It's the only way most people might enjoy life. That the state murders and steals and is the most powerful doesn't make morality wrong. Bureaucrat after bureaucrat all throughout history, since before the Roman empire even, they were all delivered to death, the worst of them by heinous imposition by the same empire they served. If history isn't a statement against immorality, I don't know what is.
danielvincentkelley 5 months ago
Morality does serve a purpose. It's the only way most people might enjoy life. That the state murders and steals and is the most powerful doesn't make morality wrong. Bureaucrat after bureaucrat all throughout history, since before the Roman empire even, they were all delivered to death, the worst of them by heinous imposition by the same empire they served. If history isn't a statement against immorality, I don't know what is.
danielvincentkelley 5 months ago
so true. the fact that we are all brainwashed from birth is a fact that most people arte unaware of, or cant accept.
jancrowb 5 months ago
Looks like Obama at the beginning.
DuncanL7979 5 months ago
@StPetePussPatrol So, is this a broad view of violence or narrow? Are you saying that if we ceased committing violence against eachother (or even a step further, the initiation of force against other humans) then we would stop evolving? I am really curious now, sorry if "you aren't serious" sounded trollish or came across as rude. These short comment boxes get me conveying things poorly from time to time.
ToiletBomb 5 months ago
I'm confused about the use of the video clip of the guy faking his electrocution... how is that relevant to the subject being discussed? I'm probably not seeing it, so any tip throwing me over the edge of understanding would be appreciated. ;-)
aaxiom31 5 months ago
The solution is in the premise !
What is the first rule in any "crime" scene ?
DO NOT TOUCH/REMOVE THE EVIDENCE IN THE CRIME SCENE !
what's the first thing that happened on 9/11 ?
the evidence was quickly shipped out and destroyed.
FIND THE MOTHERFUCKERS THAT ORDERED THE DESTRUCTION OF THE EVIDENCE, AND YOU HAVE FOUND THE PERPETRATORS
ScrewtheMossad 5 months ago 35
@ScrewtheMossad Indeed, you are correct!
induplicable 5 months ago
@ScrewtheMossad The State!!!
MetalAcitistJim 5 months ago
Awesome!
galacticcherokee 5 months ago
Bombings of innocent peoples is now called humanitarian aid.
ZombieApocalyps 5 months ago 3
666 likes on the "good is evil" video.
I love you Moleneux!
robotsaremetal1268 5 months ago
Good vid and good morality values shown and how TPTB have taken us down the primrose path to our destruction and vilification by them. It surely is Orwellian philosophy which we are being attacked with all the time these days. Right is wrong and wrong is right. They just change the names. Wars are righteous because TPTB are waging them aganist "bad" people when in reality it's innocents who are dying in them for the gains of TPTB gangsters who control us. Thanks. Love to all. Keep an open mind.
tntimberwright 5 months ago
One Word: Epic
ccadd30 5 months ago 18
@ccadd30 one more - thanks
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@stefbot Do you agree with the philosophy of Rousseau? What are your thoughts on it?
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they dont call them wars anymore, theyre not declared so its kinetic military actions =/
uwmbigb 5 months ago
holy shit..spot on my friend.
TheMrbean76 5 months ago
I LIKE this. It reminds me of something. Once I was in a grocery store "minding my own business", I got lost in the soap aisle and as I walked along I overheard two women speaking a foreign language, TRUTH. I am serious, and it was in public no less.
Well, as I was being nosey, a hobby of mine. Don't act like you have never done it. I heard one of the ladies say to the other, "Oh yeah, that is like those fears we call faith." Those words opened my eyes and my life would never be the same
CoffeeBreakDave 5 months ago
Your point is well taken! Thanks! It take a rocket scientist to notice that though there are stringent laws and admonishments curtailing many of the natural inclinations of the population, the ruling class is known to indulge in any activity and business practice they please with impunity. Thanks for posting this video.
olga2415 5 months ago
"double-think" is really always present these days
smokingslime 5 months ago
there is some truth to what you speak.......however most is just the sad harsh truth about reality
mrtundra45 5 months ago
lol...
TheEthanwashere 5 months ago
wtf? you're blaming evil on property rights? Fuck off..
daPlumber702 5 months ago
awsome !!
mogel41 5 months ago
This video is an interesting but paranoid theory. There are holes in it. Religious books ban murder but praise wars. Same can be said for violence and taxation. Groups of people had rules against violence and stealing, and then paradoxically they used violence to enforce those rules even before government was a concept. You can't have organization without rules. Even criminal organizations had internal rules against inter-member violence and crime and those are enforced with violence and crime.
hamobu 5 months ago
Don't steal - the government hates competition.
anafael1 5 months ago
I think I am missing the 'property rights' portion ?? As well, while I understand the premise of this, being a long time listener, I think there are many places where new people who might consider morals to be 'inherent' in humanity could be confused. As if ethic and morals would not exist without the juxtaposition? I would love to send this to friends, but I feel it would open up arguments/holes not qualified. They have already brought up with Stef property rights issues.
SonjaSmith 5 months ago
I'm having trouble seeing how a bizarre analogy on thievery renders morality bad.
Illthak 5 months ago
@Illthak His argument is that morality was made to justify power, but there's always an inherent contradiction in the justification. In other videos, he's always pointing out these contradictions and argues that sticking to a consistent morality is the way to freedom.
If you're still curious and care to find out more, check out his other videos or website. He's not against morality. He's actually worked out his own ethical theory called 'Universally Preferable Behavior' and the book is free.
N7a7v7i 5 months ago
I'm having trouble seeing how a bizarre analogy on thievery renders morality bad.
Illthak 5 months ago
legislating morality is great but impossible to enforce. Shall we not confuse morality with legality as this video likes to do?
herlequinstar 5 months ago
It is very hard, hard to the point of a kind of cruelty, to get the average guy, who is pretty nice and harmless for the most part, and of good will towards all in the main, to even look at the state of mind of those in power, who turn all morality to evil, murder as they smile and wave to the cameras, and more or less cause all the trouble in the world, though they are insignificant in number. But Stef is the guy to do it, and it does need doing, I say. And he's not alone!
not2tees 5 months ago
"The ends and the means are the same. Herein lies salvation." Bill Hicks
ghostofsedition 5 months ago
What is it inside the typical human that makes them think that morality should be the same for all people?
MrHappy702 5 months ago
i love how people use the word "ONLY" when referring to the death of 150,000 people
baalshin 5 months ago
I don't think I have every met one person who would believe the truth no matter how you explained it to them.
At least I have not heard it articulated in a way that would convince a single person I have ever met.
I almost have my brother convinced but he brings up that countries in Europe with heavy socialist governments have the highest happiness scores in census polls taken from around the world.
karthadastim 5 months ago
As Thoreau put it, "Any fool can make a rule, and any fool will mind it."
qstendious 5 months ago
I think this is a really terrible video. You can believe that the government is a terrible hypocritical organization without engaging in a ridiculous attack on morality itself.
You seem to attack a notion of ethics that you would be hardpressed to find a philosopher actually subscribes to.
Epydemic2020 5 months ago
@Epydemic2020 I believe he is making the case that the "ruling elites" want everybody to follow a universal morality but then convince everybody else that they are better off for letting there be an exception (for the rulers, of course). Stef has always spoken very highly of the concept of morality to my knowledge.
AtheistAltar 5 months ago
@AtheistAltar
"The most brilliant theives invent property rights"
He is calling John Locke a brilliant thief. What he should be saying, if he takes your approach, is that the government merely hijacks this concept of rights and then twists it in some way to suit their ends. That is just one example, but the whole video goes on repeating that same notion that morality is nothing but a government invention.
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Epydemic2020 5 months ago
@AtheistAltar
Almost all moral theories (except Kant) factor into circumstances. You could consider this factoring in circumstances as "making exceptions" if you insist upon only using really vague moral principles like "don't steal". The problem is now what having exceptions to vague moral rules, but with having unjustified exceptions.
If you want to avoid exceptions, just make very specific moral claims (like "killing non-consenting people solely for entertainment is wrong")
Epydemic2020 5 months ago
@Epydemic2020 Of course, that's the grain argument against absolutist principles. The thing that Stef and other libertarians would attempt to do is discover what underlies all of our ad hoc, "this is wrong" reasoning at least when it comes to social problems. If we agree that theft, murder, and fraud is wrong, what is the principle that makes it so? The initiation of aggression. Libertarians wouldn't say killing is wrong, they would say murder is wrong.
AtheistAltar 5 months ago
@Epydemic2020 Of course, if the parasitic class (i.e., government) says, "you, citizen, can never steal!", they are obviously making an egregious exception in the case for themselves. To say, one cannot steal unless one is a tax collector, is not a moral rule against theft since it would legitimize it in this instance. It fails a universalizability test miserably.
AtheistAltar 5 months ago
The fact that the american gov is fucked up doesn't mean it's by design. And about morality.. your reasoning wont get you very far with anything that isnt just black and white.
argh523 5 months ago
Stef, you should compose and send a letter to Sam Harris refuting his new book "The Moral Landscape." I could do it, as his premise is pretty week and he seems to think that the mind is not the self (odd for a neuroscientist) but you could do it so much better than me.
Killedkennyagain 5 months ago
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Criminality starts at the top of the social construct.Wealth causes poverty. Govt. (rulers) sets all standards of pay and constraints to production so it can keep profits high for its own combines. It's the ruling elite that hoard,are greedy, want total control, that has mostly the unearned,wants to be admired and worshipped for their fake benevolence confirred with stolen lucre in exchange for souls, that keeps score. Government is vile and should be strongly curtailed. Profane wealth = evil.
olga2415 5 months ago
Criminality starts at the top of the social construct.Wealth causes poverty. Govt. (rulers) sets all standards of pay and constraints to production so it can keep profits high for its own combines. It's the ruling elite that hoard,are greedy, want total control, that has mostly the unearned,wants to be admired and worshipped for their fake benevolence confirred with stolen lucre in exchange for souls, that keeps score. Government is vile and should be strongly curtailed. Profane wealth = evil.
olga2415 5 months ago
I'm a not so fresh subscriber and I admire your videos. Keep up the good thoughts!
qjmihuq100 5 months ago
Why on earth do we even need governments? Why can't people be free to live their lives they way they want too? And even if most people want one, is what we currently really what was intended?
SuperSpidey25 5 months ago
"Good is Evil" = self detonating statement. IS THIS A TEST
reliberate1991 5 months ago
Stef, I wholeheartedly enjoy you anti-state videos. They reach the standard of "anarchist-porn", and I mean that in the most positive sense and hope you're not offended.
However, I feel like where you've really shown the value of what you have to tell is in your relationship videos ... I've noticed you're not doing them quite so often anymore, at least not on youtube. Just know there would be one person rooting for more videos like that! :)
damonthemoney93 5 months ago
The U.S. is a con game and I'm tired of it!
wisdomtrek 5 months ago
"We can only avoid the traps we can see." Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and call bullshit on Stefan here.
ja524309 5 months ago
Maybe we should strikeout "taxation" from the English dictionary. That way they have to call it by what it really is. Then again, they'll probably call it "voluntary redistribution of wealth" instead, and I'd rather not strikeout "voluntary" or any of its variants from language.
HelmetUnsung 5 months ago
all rights are derived from property. This is self evident.
curiouschem 5 months ago
I do not understand your reference to 'property rights' in a negative context. The state did not invent property rights. The guy who first made a nice club for himself invented property rights when he objected to other people simply taking away the fruits of his labor. Surely you do not mean that we should all simply accept that everyone can take anything they want, that in effect we can all be thieves and it will be fine because property rights are illegitimate?
Panpiper 5 months ago
@Panpiper good point
curiouschem 5 months ago
@Panpiper I think he means property rights as something given by gvt written down in a law. It is indeed unclear. He does believe in the concept of property (unless he changed his mind). Same thing happened with morality. He has a theory of ethics called UPB, but it seems from this video morality is a tool of bad guys. Not clear if he changed his mind.
modelmark 5 months ago
8 people don't want to be confronted with the truth.
Melcarthus 5 months ago
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Melcarthus 5 months ago
FFS STOP POSTING RON PAUL SHIT HES A JOKE KK?
xplorish 5 months ago
@xplorish youre a fucking joke retard
Galv140577 5 months ago
@Galv140577 Yes so are Ron Paul.
xplorish 5 months ago
@xplorish Is that why hes leading?
You have no idea how brainwashed you are have you?
It's sad that you have so little respect or even recognition for someone with so much integrity, such high moral standing, who is so right on so many issues in so many ways, which is why he is leading by far in the elections...Ron Paul.
Put it this way... If Ron Paul doesn't win in 2012 & one of those real "joke" politicians get elected then I would definately recomend getting out of the USA while you can.
Galv140577 5 months ago
"Is that why hes leading?"
Ron Paul isn't leading. He's behind Rick Perry and Mitt Romney, and far behind Barack Obama. He's a joke, a hypocrite, and has a totally incoherent political philosophy.
"Who is right on so many issues"
Let's take a look at what the world would be like if we followed Ron Paul's advice over the last 20 years. Saddam Hussein would still be the private owner of an oppressed, scared populace..
migkillertwo 5 months ago
...further, he would have annexed and abolished an independent, sovereign state that was a member of the Arab league. Slobodan Milosevic would still be in power, Bosnia and Kosovo would be part of a greater Serbia and be ethnically cleansed. The Taliban would still be the lords of Afghanistan, and Al-Qaeda their guests.
migkillertwo 5 months ago
@migkillertwo "Let's take a look at what the world would be like if we followed Ron Paul's advice over the last 20 years. Saddam Hussein would still be the private owner of an oppressed, scared populace.."
No he would not, because he would not have gotten funding and weapons from the us gvt. Same for OBL's CIA training and funding.
A million people died in Irak, 500000 children died because of Madeleine Albright's blokkade. I'm sure they were quite happy with the intervention.
modelmark 5 months ago
@migkillertwo
'oppressed scared populace.' a couple of days ago 51 people died when bombs exploded in 7 cities. over a million died so far, 3 million displaced. do you think they would pick iraq of the late 80s, or iraq after the liberation? also, did you ask the iraqies whether they wanted your help? the media and politician likes you to think a certain way, builds you a manufactured reality, a delusion, they manipulate you, and like the mental slave that you are, you don't even know it.
nem700 5 months ago
@migkillertwo
you are deluding yourself if you think america made iraq and afghanistan better places.
nem700 5 months ago
No it's actually a fact if one evaluates all the evidence. The best source on iraq war casualties places civilian casualities at around 150,000. Saddam killed AT LEAST that many Kurds and at least that many shiites in his reign of terror. Furthermore, Saddam used the UN sanctions to starve his own people, which killed over a million iraqis.
The iraq liberation was far, FAR too late and should have happened in 1992.
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@migkillertwo
the best source? which is....the pentagon? give me break. the most accepted death toll is by Lancet which said that 5 years ago 650000 died. We can say that since bombs have not stopped going off, it is just the journalists who have stopped talking about it, that the figure is over a million now. the ones who need to be stopped in their reign of terror is Western governments. They have already killed 50k Libyans. And many more over the years.
nem700 5 months ago
@nem700
"the best source?"
The Iraqi ministry of health, which has the verifiable deaths from Iraq.
"THe most accepted death toll is by Lancet"
The Lancet "toll" is a phone survey. Similar analyses place the number FAR lower. The survey is complete bullshit, it means that the Iraqi ministry of health has, somehow, forgot that they issued 600,000 death certificates. The amount of VERIFIED deaths stands at a mere 150,000.
migkillertwo 5 months ago
@migkillertwo
Iraq ministry of health = pentagon.
nem700 5 months ago
@migkillertwo The 150,000 thousand casualties is just the people who were murdered. Lets not forget about the roughly 6 million that have died from starvation and preventable diseases as a result of their food and water sources being bombed to shit. All of the doctors and professionals are fleeing the country instead of treating patients because it's so dangerous in Iraq now. Is this your idea of liberation??
innappropriateguy 5 months ago
"the roughly 6 million that have died from starvation and preventable diseases"
Do you have even a shred of evidence for that claim? That is an enormous estimate especially considering the fact that globalization has largely eradicated the problem of famines in open economies. The absolute highest death toll is at 1.2 million, but that survey is bullshit anyway.
FACT: there have only been 150,000 deaths CONFIRMED in the iraq war.
migkillertwo 5 months ago
@migkillertwo Often times "confirmed" is the government or military report which is comparable to a celebrity tabloid for accuracy.
karthadastim 5 months ago
@migkillertwo Saddam hussain = CIA asset on US govt.payroll double agent just like hitler was a brittish double agent. The real joke politicians are the ones who want to take everybodies guns, property rights, free speech, & basic human rights & replace them with mandatory forced inoculations by injection of dangerous concoctions, carbon taxes, more & more debt., war mongering, death, GMOs, & basicly turn the country into a prison slave camp. You need to get a fucking grip on reality idiot
Galv140577 5 months ago
@migkillertwo BTW I don't know where you get your info from lol but last time I checked Ron Paul was leading by a long long way ahead of the psychopathic puppet joker monster fake bankster employed actors who call themselves politicians.
Galv140577 5 months ago
@Galv140577 You can check Gallup or Rasmussen reports, he is far behind Romney and Perry. Hell, he isn't even doing better than Michelle Bachmann.
migkillertwo 5 months ago
@migkillertwo Bullshit. The zionist media is scared of him & they wont even mention him even though he's winning. Those reports are fake.
Galv140577 5 months ago
I think you've just done an excellent job of exposing the Ron Paul movement.
migkillertwo 5 months ago
@migkillertwo Ron Paul Is Front Runner, Establishment Panicking!
watch?v=Lrj9-gHpQsw
Galv140577 5 months ago
Yes. I'm called crazy if I suggest that moral laws should apply to the state.
Zerafinel 5 months ago
Thank you for doing this most critical work.
Blaphtome 5 months ago
That Ape at the beginning is gangsta
MaxSachs 5 months ago
This is why i subscribed and faved you,Awesome work.
wize11 5 months ago
I am a private floor layer, so Im in a different house just about everyday and I did a floor for a US Postal Inspector and I asked him "Factually what's the difference between taxation and theft", so he thought for about 5 seconds and said "None"-And every time you get the same damn response "But who will build the roads"?
And For mrtomashorvath-If people with guns did not drive around and point guns at you and make you believe in govt.-that concept would disappear
THAWK3 5 months ago
Great vid Stef .. but I am a bit confused. You keep repeating that goverment does not exist but you keep using this term. Thanks for explaining.
mrtomashorvath 5 months ago
@mrtomashorvath
If men trained in martial arts drove around in cars with cages, and had bat belts full of deadly weapons and pointed them at you in the name of "Santa Clause"-you would believe that Santa was real too. Or the "Easter Bunny" for that matter. How do you not see the coercion and violence to make you believe in fictions. Govt. is a mental abstract that has to be taught(Keyword TAUGHT) for you to believe it.
THAWK3 5 months ago
@THAWK3 You are awakened.
RodCornholio 5 months ago
@THAWK3 you misunderstood my remark. Nevermind ...
mrtomashorvath 5 months ago
Brilliant! Stef, one suggestion. I always watch your videos while in lunch break... Any way they could have "softer" images or just a white screen, the important content is what you say, I don't think anyone needs to see a dying animal or a dead person to understand the immorality of the State=violence. I'll try to swallow now.... (hope you consider this a constructive commentary)
meberic 5 months ago
So no one will steal once we live under corporate feudalism? The problem is the concentration and unaccountability of power, not the state per se. A democracy and democratic state are preferable to a plutocratic state or corporate feudalism. Lemmings and the ignorant too often confuse issues pertaining to the exercise of power with issues pertaining to the state its self; blaming the state for ills that are the consequence of oligarchy, capitalism, imperialism etc.
Tuathalful 5 months ago
@Tuathalful the corporatist police state is a direct result of democracy, wake the eff up.
Sivels 5 months ago
8 government employees watched this vid.
Excellent work Stef, your work is top of the line.
Iseeyoursoul 5 months ago
Another incredible video. I don't always agree with you, but the state as it is has to go. I will be including a link to this video in my afternoon show.
rileyphillip 5 months ago
Who did the animation Stef?
Chucker84 5 months ago in playlist Videos from stefbot
The law will jail the petty thief
who steals the goose from off the commons
but let the greater felon loose
who steals the commons from under the goose.
ThePeaceableKingdom 5 months ago
Wow! Not Bad, Not Bad @ all
bluetunder40 5 months ago
"In order for us to accept such madness, the wheels of our minds must be broken by indoctrination."
I have been awoken and cannot go back to sleep nor do I desire to. The ideas of truth and reality are making it progressively more difficult to exist within a world defined by deception and violence. Old me yields to Diogenes.
Beesnchickens 5 months ago
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Beesnchickens 5 months ago
Wow. Powerful. I like how you speak slowly and pause between sentences. Each one is thought-provoking. Even still, I have to replay the video a few times because not all of it sunk in. This style is probably the antithesis of something like the mainstream news, which is a mile and minute yet still devoid of any real content.
yuppyguitar1 5 months ago
I am a big fan of most of your work on FDR but when you talk about morality it confuses me. Morality has only ever been used for things that people like us don't like. You accept this, but then you say that YOU CAN use morality for good. Why can you wear the ring of power and not be corrupted. everyone you want to reach is already mostly rational and values peace and prosperity - and there are solid cause and effect arguments for how to get to those - so the moral argument are moot anyway
Robinsonero 5 months ago
sounds like a nietzschean analysis
F1ghtclub2k11 5 months ago
I haven't read nietzsche yet, but if this is how he argued then continental philosophy is dead and should have been buried long ago. This entire video is nothing one string of ad homs and strawmen.
migkillertwo 5 months ago
Brilliant Argument.
AvgDude 5 months ago
Good point, never thought it through that far. Thanks :)
eyeswideopennimrod 5 months ago
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Marronisince1990 5 months ago
Look up his podcasts on morality if you don't get his point. He explains Libertarian morality quite well there.