@TheMessianist: Here is what Jesus commanded His disciples to do: “Go you therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you…” (Matt. 28:19-20). What did He command? See Matt. 19:17. A man asked how He may have eternal life, did Christ say: "Just believe on me, that's all!" No. He said: “If you will enter into life, keep the commandments.”
@TheMessianist: Does anyone believe that Christ was saying that after John the Baptist, it became okay to covet, lie, steal, kill, worship other gods, etc? Romans 2:14 is referring to unconverted Gentiles, who live by their conscience. When we realise we have sinned, we ask God’s forgiveness through Christ and try to do better, thus building God’s character.
@TheMessianist: In Mat. 11:13 & Luke 16:16, the Greek word “nomos” translated as “law” means prescriptive usage/regulations, the ceremonial laws given by Moses.
@TheMessianist: God’s laws were not “Jewish”, they were given to His people, whoever they may be at any time. See Genesis 26:4-5 “Because that Abraham obeyed MY voice, and kept MY charge, MY commandments, MY statutes, and MY laws.” Note also, Rev. 14:12: “Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, AND the faith of Jesus.”
@TheMessianist: Acts 15:28-29 does indeed say, “That you abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if you keep yourselves, you shall do well.” Does that then mean that you can kill, steal and break all the other commandments as long as you abstain from meats offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled and from fornication? Obviously not.
@TheMessianist: Thanks for your comments. God does not contradict Himself. In Rom 2:13 it says: “For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.” Eph. 2:15 says: “Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances (translated from the Greek word “dogma”, which refers to “ceremonial” laws) for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace.”
@TheMessianist: Here is what Jesus commanded His disciples to do: “Go you therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you…” (Matt. 28:19-20). What did He command? See Matt. 19:17. A man asked how He may have eternal life, did Christ say: "Just believe on me, that's all!" No. He said: “If you will enter into life, keep the commandments.”
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@TheMessianist: Does anyone believe that Christ was saying that after John the Baptist, it became okay to covet, lie, steal, kill, worship other gods, etc? Romans 2:14 is referring to unconverted Gentiles, who live by their conscience. When we realise we have sinned, we ask God’s forgiveness through Christ and try to do better, thus building God’s character.
4272353 5 months ago
@TheMessianist: In Mat. 11:13 & Luke 16:16, the Greek word “nomos” translated as “law” means prescriptive usage/regulations, the ceremonial laws given by Moses.
4272353 5 months ago
@TheMessianist: God’s laws were not “Jewish”, they were given to His people, whoever they may be at any time. See Genesis 26:4-5 “Because that Abraham obeyed MY voice, and kept MY charge, MY commandments, MY statutes, and MY laws.” Note also, Rev. 14:12: “Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, AND the faith of Jesus.”
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@TheMessianist: Acts 15:28-29 does indeed say, “That you abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if you keep yourselves, you shall do well.” Does that then mean that you can kill, steal and break all the other commandments as long as you abstain from meats offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled and from fornication? Obviously not.
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@TheMessianist: Christ’s sacrifice is not a license to sin. It is there for
when, through weakness we succumb to temptation and break the law. As the scripture says:
“What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.”
(Rom. 6:15). Also, as it is written in Galatians 2:17: “But if, while we seek to be justified by
Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, (i.e. breakers of the law), is therefore
Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.”
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@TheMessianist :It is the ceremonial laws of the Old Testament that were abolished at the cross, not the ten
Commandments, which were given way before Moses. Remember, Cain was punished for
killing Abel, so it is clear that murder was a sin from the beginning. Also, the Sabbath and all
the other commandments were given to man from the beginning. Sin is defined as: “the
transgression of the law” (1 John 3:4).
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@TheMessianist: Thanks for your comments. God does not contradict Himself. In Rom 2:13 it says: “For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.” Eph. 2:15 says: “Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances (translated from the Greek word “dogma”, which refers to “ceremonial” laws) for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace.”
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