Actually this is a Psalm written prior to the coming of Christ. What we did was take very ancient words and set them to more contemporary music of the times. If you look at modern songs we are still taking the psalms and setting them to contemporary music in our day. I enjoy all of the settings in the broad spectrum of church music from the very latest to that which comes from the earliest parts of our tradition. I wonder how the psalms are sung or said in a synagog.
GRAÇAS A DEUS SOU CRISTÃO E DE UMA CERTA FORMA LUTERANO PQ DEUS USOU MARTINHO PARA TIRAR O JUGO DA IGREJA CATÓLICA INQUISIDORA , ASSASSINA HOJE POSSO LER A BIBLIA SAGRADA E ATRAVÉS DA VERDADE JESUS MI LIBERTOU.GRAÇAS TE DOU Ó PAI POR TER USADO HOMENS COMO MARTINHO LUTERO QUE ATRAVÉS DA SUA PALAVRA DESAFIO A IGREJA CATÓLICA NÃO NEGANDO SUA PRÓPRIA VIDA EM BUSCA DA VERDADE QUE É O AMOR DE JESUS E SUA ETERNA SALVAÇÃO PARA OS HOMENS.CONHECERES A VERDADE E A VERDADE VOS LIBERTARÁ, GLÓRIA À JESUS.
@TheLordAwaked No it is not "Vatican Music" Is is the music of one of the most important churches of the maristerial reformation. But then most of what you would likely denounce as "Vatican Music" i.e. gregorian chant is the hart and soul of christianity.
beautiful. can anybody tell me where i can buy some of the candle holders featuered in this video as i want to donate to a church. wingsary@yahoo.co.uk.
@totoeforyou why don't you call the Cathedral? I would look at this page: kings.cam.ac.uk/choir/index.html The Choirmaster will know who to contact about the holders, if he does not know where they came from himself.
It is saddening to see some of you label vatican music as "pure hell" when it carries the works of millions through generations for 2000 years and counting. In calling them arrogant and recalling your absolute superiority over others have you not become arrogant?
As a passionate atheist, I couldn't agree more, and take personal offense whenever it's suggested otherwise.
Still, on the other hand, water is water. And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now you tell me what you know.
@ThineDoor3 I am a staunch atheist myself. However, having been brought up studying music since early age, and heard and sung a lot of religious music, I couldn't bring myself to deny the beauty of most of it. As I said, art is art, and can be appreciated for its own sake. For what it's worth, I work for a local Episcopal church as an organist, and don't give a damn what anybody thinks of that. I like music.
From 1963-1968 I attended an American school fashioned after the choir schools of England. We sang through the entire Psalter using Anglican Chant, Gregorian Chant, The English Gradual, and Metric Psalmody once every month. You can't believe what a chore it was as a kid, but nothing has ever been able to replace that daily rendering of those profound expressions set to beautiful music. It gave me the irreplaceable appreciation of all the world's chanting. Thanks for this!
Goosebumps washed over me right as I started listening to this video. Praise God. Anyone know of a good sight/resource to learn Anglican Chant that I could use with the Psalms?
This is beautiful Anglican chant, so spiritual and uplifting.
It is such a shame that people cannot appreciate the beautiful music rather than write stupid theological arguments, Us Christians all worship the same God and we should appreciate each others differences. Christianity is about love and not hate.
It's not "Christian" chant. It's "Anglican" chant: a tradition observed throughout the world in Angican (Episcopal) churches. It's more suitable to the rhythm of the English language, whereas Gregorian chant was meant to be sung in Latin.
In Jesus's Blessed Name I humbly speak out for the cause of our Lord and Savior and do Thank You for posting this on here for all of us to enjoy. Peace be with You All in the Name of Jesus
I came to hear this music which I've heard before (on a Catholic T.V. Network) no less and thought I'd not hear again (for which I am most grateful). What a joy it is to hear the music and see the images. I don't play theoligical tennis here or anywhere. Thank you, DonRaphel, for posting this nice MUSIC. Bless you.
I see from the comments that the christians are again at each others throats, god save us from the christians. Why don't you all go out and help some poor down and outs or some other christian act or did that never enter your heads, too busy fighting over psalms.
One of my top favourite Psalm settings and one I have sung many times usually to Ps. 100. Choristers and their masters rehears these psalm settings for hours. There are fewer and fewer churches nowadays singing these great settings usually because there is no choir to lead the congregation and I don't think these settings really suit drums, guitars etc. Other settings that tingle the spine are... Lord Mornington (Psalm 86), Hylton-Stewart (for Psalm 23) both super compositions
@RectorChori1 Thank you RectorChori1, singing Hylton-Stewart is like putting in cruise control in a vat of chocolate. The man knew how to write Anglican Chant. You are literally fighting tears singing the chant in f, it is that lovely.
And Xfranman, I'd rather be in hell singing H-S than listening to the dreck coming from the Vatican (which IS hell!). The Roman church is far as I am concerned, very far from God.
@choirboyfromhell1 mmmmmmmm chocolate! I've played at many RC churches over the years and there's one occasion that springs to mind.... I remember a Priest once stating that 'hymn singing is the work of the Devil' and 'they don't come to church to sing, they come to church to be reminded that they will die as sinners'. Which seminary did he appear from?!
@RectorChori1 to add... I've been treated with much scorn whilst visiting RC Churches and often whilst offering my services freely. The amount of bickering and hatred talk between members of the congregation is saddening - and not just within RC churches. Those evangelical congregations who insist on throwing scriptures around patronisingly and arrogantly... they might as well hit you round the head with the Bible!
@RectorChori1 What's truly sad (with the exception of Bavaria) is that there is no singing in the great cathedrals on the continent, and most of the crowd walks out when the priest leaves, despite the organ voluntary or cheap hymn.
"Oh Lord, only say the word I will be healed.....BINGO!"
I get the idea that most in the RCC are there only out of guilt, and they want to get through it as fast as possible. A miserable cult it has turned itself into, and no amount of dogma-
@RectorChori1 : A very good seminary of ideas I should say ! Hymns have much of the world mixed with very little Truth thrown in. Take the carol, God Rest Ye, Merry Gentlemen ! And as for organs, we are all equipped with organs by which to sing, so off to the tinsmiths and brass mongers every organ in Britain thankyou very much !
@MusicPredominates "Be with us, Lord, in all that we do to to help share your love and peace with others".
@MusicPredominates.... the same 'Priest' was later prosecuted for thee most hateful and ungodly act of child molestation - his past kept secret by his employers for many years!
@ all those here to argue the toss..... can we not just enjoy the music?! If you're not a believer in these works then leave and listen to something more to your own personal taste and beliefs.
I've seen this very presentation - on Catholic t.v. no less - and I'm delighted to have found it here to view/hear whenever I wish. Ignoring the absurd, not to say obscene, nonsense about the Holy Father and the Holy Roman Catholic and Apostolic Church, I wonder if some folks are hearing the powerful words of King David - and God's - heart. Someone may find himself the choirboyINhell. Peace.
@Xfranman : Holy Father ? He is captive of his own institution ! The Holy Roman Catholic and Apostolic Church ? No such thing ! The Pope; the former Cardinal Ratzinger ? A modern day Esau !
@MusicPredominates : Nicene creed (omit Roman) more than a millenium before neurotic Marty began scarring Wittenburg's cathedral doors. The (Ratzinger) Pope, not Esau, Peter - the 264th in unbroken succession from Jesus' senior apostle. All there in "The (Holy) Book" some claim infallible while others pick and choose. But that's me. I don't argue with others about theirs. I'm just hoping they've got that purgatory thing down right or I'm in doo-doo deep.
@Xfranman : Fellowship with the Lord Jesus Christ the only way to heaven ! The pope such a weak man. Twice over. Get yourself a copy of the Case of the Pope by the Australian-Anglo or the Anglo-Australian Geoffrey Robertson. The Pope an Esau indeed.
I sang this chant with my choir, The Walbrook Singers at Hereford Cathedral only two weeks ago on a residential visit, but we sang it to Psalm 107 verses 1-14!! Gorgeous tune...!
I think that this Choir is excellent and Christians should learn to return to God's Holy Voice to enable the problems of life that mankind is facing today! May God Bless them all. Tulipan702
@elisa13 What matters is that the English tradition preserves the important things. God doesn't enter into it. Atheists can love this music, it's a cultural heritage performed in an idiosyncratic musical setting.
Anglicans/Episcopalians would never, ever, change their liturgical/musical heritage. There would be a massive revolt. Music is very important in our services, thankfully so.
Certainly, since the Vatican Councils & the NO Pauline-Bugnini (1969) service was fabricated Roman Catholic liturgical standards have plummeted to banality & taken musical repertoire and quality with it. We need to restore The Latin Mass of All Time codified by Pope St Pius V & the Tridentine Councils to restore choral standards.
In the meantime, High Anglican choral tradition is a true musical gem that needs to be maintained at all costs. It is magnificent. It is unique & incomparable.
"Praise him in the sound of the trumpet : praise him upon the lute and harp. Praise him in the cymbals and dances : praise him upon the strings and pipe." (God.) Only musical instrument my backside.
5 Praise him upon the well-tuned cymbals : praise him upon the loud cymbals.
May God forgive you. Did you try to read, pray and sing through this psalm as they are singing it. Why condemning this great contribution to the wok of God on earth? You have to calm down and allow the spirit of God flow in you to enjoy and understand and be filled with this prayer of King David given to the redeemed and beloved children of God.
@gbolagun I also agree with you and second that emotion....Peace be with You for All Eternity in the Name of Jesus..the Angels of Heaven have praised Your good works and Comments through the Mercy of Jesus Christ...Amen
So good to see that some Anglicans are joining the Catholic Church (and hopefully bringing their musical traditions with them - then we might start to enhance and replace the beautiful music we binned at Vatican II!!
@MixtureBoy a huge mistake to combine the Anglican Service with the Roman Catholics... didn't we take care of that hundreds of years ago with Henry and his Daughter Elizabeth.. on a more lighter note.. have you heard the music at St.Peters on midnight mass...HORRID... the Catholic church is so boring...and here in North America ( Canada & State - their take on modern Church music is very FOLK oriented and terrible... I have played for several Catholic churches here when they were in a bind...
@MixtureBoy - on another note.. most Canadian Anglicans cringe at the the thought of joining the Roman Catholics... just a feel they miss the mark with not only their preaching, teaching but lack of spirit in their worship ( music ) I shutter at the thought...
If the bible is allowed to be read aloud, then why do some consider it blasphemous to sing the bible aloud. I am refering here to "I am the Bread of LIfe".
I conduct a choir in a Catholic church, and I love the Gregorian chant, but when I listen so much music unsuitable in the Catholic church ... I prefer the Anglican chant!!... The English choral tradition is really wonderful!
And what matter if it is done by Protestants, Calvinists or Baptists?
This music is wonderful because it is in perfect harmony with the text sung and the Choir of King's College is one of the best that can be listen ! I would like to live in UK only for this! Mary
The original argument here is that the "Roman" countries have been devastating to classical church music, Westminster Cathedral notwithstanding. That's a fact you can't deny.
Define 'Catholic' It ain't just the Roman freaking Church.
No, the Roman countries haven't been devastating to music, the Pope has... ;-)
I think the fact that the English choirs are still flourishing is indeed because they are not under the influence of the Vatican. The consevative thoughts and stupid dogmas from Rome is killing for catholic churches and choirs and I see this in my city every day.
How can the pope be destroying Catholic choral music? He has been very benevolent and highly appraising of Traditionalism. The Traditionalists are the ones upholding sacred choral music in churches.
Absolutely bang on Don Raphel. We in the Anglican faith are not afraid to admit that we don't know all yet what is God, yet we try (at least the sensible of us) to preserve what is dear to us and pass it on.
Your statement is fraught with ignorance. The Pope himself, is a great lover of classical music especially choral music & has been advocating a return to traditional forms of music especially during Holy Mass. The Catholic love for tradition is not killing anything except the ugliness of modern practices. Please check out videos all over youtube of the music during His Holiness's recent PAPAL VISIT TO BRITAIN. It included both Latin hymns & Anglican hymns.
@zacman4u Thank you for your defense of the beauty of ancient tradition. Of course, many modern composers create beautiful music, but I think that in an attempt to be "original", many create nothing but novelty and nonsense, and, ultimately, as you say, the ugly. Bless you.
@3NUNS The Pope is the head of God's church. Our Lord said to St. Peter "thou art rock, and from this rock I shall build my church". You try and find another church with an unbroken line of heads from St. Peter.
@3NUNS My question is unanswered, which many people of your position often do. S Mat 16:17Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father, who is in heaven. And I say to you, that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it. Please, lets not fill up this good video's comment board with this. If you want to respond, send me a message.
Quit incorrect. It is not the teaching of Catholicism that the pope is the head of the Church. The Catechism clearly states - as does Scripture - that Christ is the Head of the Church. The pope is the vicar (i.e. representative) of Christ but not the Head of the Church.
@albanman Yes, I know, thank you for making that clear. I should have phrased it in a more proper way. But it would be true to say that as the representative of Christ, the Holy Father is the head of the Church on earth, would it not?
I can agree with you... But it is not in ALL the European Catholic churches...Surely, modernism is affecting and destroying the good religious music supposed to be in Churches... But there are also good churches that still pertain to the Roman Catholic Choral tradition.
do you mean Catholic or catholic?
The Catholic faith is that which pertains to the Church and is universal. The catholic quality means it is just universal.
Good, I 'm glad you have a Meriam-Webster Dictionary handy for moments like this. Now grab your rosary and pray hard for those who are singing 'I am the Bread of Life' or anything from 'Celebration', along with Father Chuck and Mister Microphone.
I sing at Tridentines with the local Latin Choir, that is, when the local (Roman) bishop isn't giving them fits. The local diocese allows dispensation for two parishes (out of 230) to say (sing) the Tridentine. One of the parishes only does organ masses, so that leaves one unpaid choir to delve into the likes of Palestrina, Victoria, Du Fay, de Lassus and the like in a metro area of about 2 million.
@gregoriusXVII compare Black Gospel, Kings College ...to the dire, sad, amatuer voices of the boys at StPeters midnight mass... pitiful... of all services of the year... compare them to Kings College... the Bible says to make a joyful noise unto the Lord... Catholics... seem to be missing this... played at dozens of Catholic churhes over the years...they can tell I am a Protestant boy...by the beauty I put into the Praise... Music God's gift through me...
@timothyj1966 Gotta disagree with you there, brother. Think for a moment; the original culture that brought out Psalm 50 was Hebraic, not American. That means that what we think of as a "joyful noise" was NOT what the Psalmist would. True, the Jews had wonderfully upbeat music but Psalms is full of dirges and laments. Moreso that "happy tunes".
This is good music in its content: Medieval & European. It glorifies God. Perhaps it's not in your taste but that doesn't make it less spiritual. Peace!
@ElJibaroBravo the Anglicans have turned praise into a High art form, music used of God to bless, minister and move through His spirit... I was just saying from a musical point of view...there is nothing in the Catholic church ( ROME & North America) that even comes close to as moving as Kings College, I always found the Catholic services ( mass ) deadly dull, dry, unpraiseful
@choirboyfromhell1 from my musical experience... as a organist for many different denominations... the music in the Roman Catholic church is dire, dead, plain, unjoyful, not very moving or pretty... where as alot of the Protestant churches music is joyful, soulful, sweet, and above all Praiseful... compare the nine lessons on Christmas eve at Kings College Cambridge to the very dry, and casual voices of St Peters on of all nights and service Christmas Eve Mass...point in case... amatuer
You are like a Cathar or Donatist who dares to criticise the Church of God for not being up to your own extraordinary levels of personal purity. How about this--return to the one body of Christ, extra quam salus non est, and then set about reforming her, following in the footsteps of Athanasius rather than Tertullian.
i love the chant and psalm, but i prefer the music of saint pauls cathedral choir london, their technique is superb than kings college and chant selection is unmatched
this is so moving, its reverentially sung even though its taken from the 16th century where worship of God was simple and understandable. In my view this is the equivalent of sacred gregorian chant and very moving and inspiring
It sounds like a superb organ, but the finest liturgical music is always unaccompanied. In the Russian Orthodox Church, an organ is neither allowed nor needed.
That's a rather sweeping statement! Some of the finest liturgical music not only has organ accompaniment, but also orchestral accompaniment e.g. Mozart and Haydn Masses.
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How can such severe words be sung so lovingly? There is a sense of immense power behind their meaning and yet the composer gives them such a human character. Did the psalmist really give God such humanity in the first place? I am really glad Jesus was invented. Only such a character can hold together the inexorability of the universe and the necessity to be positive.
note that in anglican chant, melodies aren't written for specific psalms.
on a separate point, all the 'nastyness' in the bible is countered by our being redeemed, so even the most damning words can be sung to cheery music since salvation will come in the end
Please... in Personal Message, explain to me WHAT, specifically is Anglican Chant ? We do it in my church. I know it when I hear it. And yet, I can't DEFINE it.
Well essentially, what it is is an attempt and rather successful one by the Anglicans, the most musical of Christian denominations to put music and melody to the psalms of David.
Lest we forget, the psalms were put to music often times stringed instruments.
The chants are at times the most entertaining of the music at an Anglican sevice minus Christmas and Easter and that's saying something since many people go to Anglican churches strictly for the music.
What do you mean: "most musical of Christian denominations"? I don't think that's true. Catholic Masses are tradition filled with chant, as are Orthodox liturgies, and everyone knows how important Luther thought music was to worship (as do his followers).
Oh yes, the Roman Church is a stellar example of present day musicality in Christianity, just suffer through one of their countless guitar masses. And make sure you go to a cathedral in France, then one in England and see you still think the same. And Luther might have been friendly to music, but his successors in Calvinism where anything but.
Keep in mind everyone... King's College, St. John's College, and almost every other cathedral choir in England was once Catholic... Boys choirs are COMPLETELY from Catholic Choral Tradition.
Westminster Cathedral is "Continental". I think one of the few, maybe the only, cathedral choir in Enland with boy altos. In England very rare, in Germany, France and The Netherlands very normal. (My choir has boy altos, too.)
You're quite right that Catholic music is currently in a rather sordid place. Hopefully, we'll restore the Josquin, Byrd, Tallis, Palestrina, and Perotin soon! I wouldn't say that Calvin was a successor to Luther; they each created separate churches with rather different views of music and everything else (the nature of the Sacraments, etc.). Bach was of course a Lutheran; I don't think Calvinists are nearly as friendly to "earthly" beauty.
You're absolutely right, Luther was theological, Calvin was doctrinal and Henry VIII was political.
Funny thing, in the small town where I grew up the Presbyterians were the musical church (although their liturgy was non-existent), strange how things get turned around in the course of time. And there are plenty of Episcopal parishes that have shamefully destroyed their music traditions. Blame it on the leadership of all of our denominations.
let's not forget the sins of the angelican church, what with it's electric guitar, piano and drum masses.
the situation is pretty much the same everywhere in both denominations; go to a local church, you'll be lucky to get a psalm. go to a cathedral/abbey/larger church, there's a chance you'll get decent music.
Inadvertently walked into a (Episcopal) eucharist the other day with a drum combo, piano and power point projector. Freak'in white middle-aged suburbanites stuck in continual mid-life crisis and raised on rock-n-roll (and of course can't read music).
lol, you may have learnt it from us, but you've certainly perfected the art of a lame techno-mass, but enough of that.
i'd happily do gregorian chant and would prefer to use the tridentine mass. it seems however the those in power in both denominations seem to think modernising church music is crucial for giving off a 'modern' image and inviting youth and what not. i'd argue it's heavily counter productive, but when when you've got influential people saying they love crap, what can you do...
I sing (ring) at an occasional Tridentine 9the only one allow in this area) with their Latin choir. It is quite moving as is the Anglican Chants, Howells canticles, Harris anthems, etc., are to me. Quite odd the first time I experienced a "silent" prayer of consecration (canon of mass), that was a little bit of a shocker-
Why can't we have a church that is intelligent, and yet respectful of the traditions of the past and relish in the arts?
The Church is respectful of the past and even in the arts ... but often the people choose not to listen and ignore what is truly beautiful ....How sad....God is beauty, and deserves only the best!
the cliques are in, and it's ridiculously difficult to get them out.
and the more we entertain the likes of christopher walker, paul inwood, bernadette farrel (to name a few), the harder it becomes to get rid of them and their poor excuse for music. they won't give up without a fight, because 1.) it's worth a ridiculous amount of money, 2.) they've probably deluded themselves into thinking their music is better than the traditional stuff
oh yes, there's another criminal. michael joncas, yet another. there are too many to name tbh.
the problem with voting with your feet is that it'll deteriorate, but there won't come a point when people will go "hang on, this is rubbish". calling out the emperor's new clothes is certainly possible, but in a sea of voices shouting 'bravo', your voice may not be heard...
I've seen enough of the silly types singing "Bread of Life" with their hands outstretched to know that' there's no substitute for a good (musical) education. Here in the USA we're too obsessed with football, getting stoned and worrying about making the next payment on the SUV. Is it any wonder we are where we are, at least here.
I'm Catholic we may be the originators of chant but the Anglicans are way more serious about perfecting what we started and he's right, the Anglican church has the richest music-they spend more time educating people about music and its usually executed far more superior in their churches. Don't let me become Pope I would get an Anglican choir to lead the music. As a choirdirector/organ I'd take an anglican choir over a Catholic one anydayprecisionHave u heard the Sistine chapel choir? Horrible!
Anglican Chant is similar to Gregorian chant psalm tones...
They sing repeatedly the melody and harmony on the sentences of the psalm. They can indicate this by arabic numerals. Pointing to where the notes are supposed to be sung...
we cannot overemphasise the fact that the entire world is really blessed by Anglican chants. great worship of our Lord and God. God is awesome. i am still searching for chants of psalms 145 to 150 by this wonderful choir. God bless you all and Happy Chrismas and New Year.
Actually this is a Psalm written prior to the coming of Christ. What we did was take very ancient words and set them to more contemporary music of the times. If you look at modern songs we are still taking the psalms and setting them to contemporary music in our day. I enjoy all of the settings in the broad spectrum of church music from the very latest to that which comes from the earliest parts of our tradition. I wonder how the psalms are sung or said in a synagog.
robert0199 2 months ago
GRAÇAS A DEUS SOU CRISTÃO E DE UMA CERTA FORMA LUTERANO PQ DEUS USOU MARTINHO PARA TIRAR O JUGO DA IGREJA CATÓLICA INQUISIDORA , ASSASSINA HOJE POSSO LER A BIBLIA SAGRADA E ATRAVÉS DA VERDADE JESUS MI LIBERTOU.GRAÇAS TE DOU Ó PAI POR TER USADO HOMENS COMO MARTINHO LUTERO QUE ATRAVÉS DA SUA PALAVRA DESAFIO A IGREJA CATÓLICA NÃO NEGANDO SUA PRÓPRIA VIDA EM BUSCA DA VERDADE QUE É O AMOR DE JESUS E SUA ETERNA SALVAÇÃO PARA OS HOMENS.CONHECERES A VERDADE E A VERDADE VOS LIBERTARÁ, GLÓRIA À JESUS.
jocelitowel 4 months ago
Look at the right hand side of the chior and listen to the singing and you can see why St. Gergory the Great said Non Angli, sed Angeli.
cuthbertstephenson 4 months ago
I really want to find Psalm 59. I just can't seem to find it- because I sang it at St. Johns Cambridge.
LIonGraphiK 5 months ago
@TheLordAwaked No it is not "Vatican Music" Is is the music of one of the most important churches of the maristerial reformation. But then most of what you would likely denounce as "Vatican Music" i.e. gregorian chant is the hart and soul of christianity.
WideBelly280 6 months ago
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@TheLordAwaked No it is not "Vatican Music" Is is the music of one of the most important churches of the maristerial reformation.
WideBelly280 6 months ago
@TheLordAwaked No it is not "Vatican Music" Is is the music of one of the most important churches of the maristerial reformation.
WideBelly280 6 months ago
@TheLordAwaked I'm sorry to say but you are pathetic. Why couldn't you people just stop arguing over religious beliefs and just enjoy the music?
DonRaphel 6 months ago
beautiful. can anybody tell me where i can buy some of the candle holders featuered in this video as i want to donate to a church. wingsary@yahoo.co.uk.
may God be praise at all times.
totoeforyou 6 months ago
@totoeforyou I have really no idea if they are for sale. I think you should look for a prive manufacterer, maybe he will do it on request...
DonRaphel 6 months ago
@totoeforyou why don't you call the Cathedral? I would look at this page: kings.cam.ac.uk/choir/index.html The Choirmaster will know who to contact about the holders, if he does not know where they came from himself.
JRichardYoung 3 months ago
you can get the candle holders from Wippells..or email the college and ask for a vendor
whaleswolex 2 months ago
It is saddening to see some of you label vatican music as "pure hell" when it carries the works of millions through generations for 2000 years and counting. In calling them arrogant and recalling your absolute superiority over others have you not become arrogant?
4yall 7 months ago
As a passionate atheist, I couldn't agree more, and take personal offense whenever it's suggested otherwise.
Still, on the other hand, water is water. And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now you tell me what you know.
ThineDoor3 8 months ago
@ThineDoor3 I am a staunch atheist myself. However, having been brought up studying music since early age, and heard and sung a lot of religious music, I couldn't bring myself to deny the beauty of most of it. As I said, art is art, and can be appreciated for its own sake. For what it's worth, I work for a local Episcopal church as an organist, and don't give a damn what anybody thinks of that. I like music.
AmplifiedNonsense 8 months ago
@AmplifiedNonsense "Staunch Atheist". Hee-hee - funny how you lot make it sound like a grave and austere religion.
nicksum29 8 months ago
@nicksum29 I know, right? :)
AmplifiedNonsense 8 months ago
I don't even think you have to be christian to appreciate this. Art is art.
AmplifiedNonsense 8 months ago
From 1963-1968 I attended an American school fashioned after the choir schools of England. We sang through the entire Psalter using Anglican Chant, Gregorian Chant, The English Gradual, and Metric Psalmody once every month. You can't believe what a chore it was as a kid, but nothing has ever been able to replace that daily rendering of those profound expressions set to beautiful music. It gave me the irreplaceable appreciation of all the world's chanting. Thanks for this!
deearedub 9 months ago
Goosebumps washed over me right as I started listening to this video. Praise God. Anyone know of a good sight/resource to learn Anglican Chant that I could use with the Psalms?
camlemons 9 months ago
Beautiful.
DIBBY40 10 months ago
this video and chant reminds me of saint Cyprian church choir Port Harcourt and matins service. may God restore saint Cyprian to its statute quo
ibijoy 10 months ago
this video and chant reminds me of saint Cyprian church choir Port Harcourt and matins. may God restore saint Cyprian to its statute quo
ibijoy 10 months ago
This is beautiful Anglican chant, so spiritual and uplifting.
It is such a shame that people cannot appreciate the beautiful music rather than write stupid theological arguments, Us Christians all worship the same God and we should appreciate each others differences. Christianity is about love and not hate.
Thank you Kings College choir.
m0bob 11 months ago
@m0bob
Well said. For us Christians there should be no denominations. Only Jesus.
melomaniacful 9 months ago
It's not "Christian" chant. It's "Anglican" chant: a tradition observed throughout the world in Angican (Episcopal) churches. It's more suitable to the rhythm of the English language, whereas Gregorian chant was meant to be sung in Latin.
oyapeg 11 months ago
Beautiful chant!!! It is good to hear the ancient tradition of Christian chant being preserved by King's College choir. Te Deum.
cchristophermark 11 months ago
Absolutely beautiful! The English choral tradition is unlike no other!
hiroshi2020 11 months ago
Thanks for the posting, but I'm surprised to find I have two major gripes with this:
1) the organ is much too 'in your face' and
2) the pointing (for the uninitiated, the way the text is fitted to the music) is ugly and unpoetic - not what one expects from King's.
Nothing wrong with the singing or playing of course!
venividiu 11 months ago
In Jesus's Blessed Name I humbly speak out for the cause of our Lord and Savior and do Thank You for posting this on here for all of us to enjoy. Peace be with You All in the Name of Jesus
ConwingL162007 1 year ago
Quintessential English; as an ex chorister now living in the Arizona Sonoran desert, pure heart tugging nostalgia.
armstrongariz 1 year ago
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3NUNS 11 months ago
Good grief, have we sunk to such depths that we can't enjoy beauty for its own sake?
annikee59 1 year ago
Thanks for posting. Beautiful!
naymelful 1 year ago
Bravo! Cheers from Brazil
PiscaCPT 1 year ago
This is absolutely beautiful! Thank you so much for posting!
hiroshi2020 1 year ago
I came to hear this music which I've heard before (on a Catholic T.V. Network) no less and thought I'd not hear again (for which I am most grateful). What a joy it is to hear the music and see the images. I don't play theoligical tennis here or anywhere. Thank you, DonRaphel, for posting this nice MUSIC. Bless you.
Xfranman 1 year ago
I see from the comments that the christians are again at each others throats, god save us from the christians. Why don't you all go out and help some poor down and outs or some other christian act or did that never enter your heads, too busy fighting over psalms.
TAPlastic 1 year ago
One of my top favourite Psalm settings and one I have sung many times usually to Ps. 100. Choristers and their masters rehears these psalm settings for hours. There are fewer and fewer churches nowadays singing these great settings usually because there is no choir to lead the congregation and I don't think these settings really suit drums, guitars etc. Other settings that tingle the spine are... Lord Mornington (Psalm 86), Hylton-Stewart (for Psalm 23) both super compositions
RectorChori1 1 year ago
@RectorChori1 : Good comment !
MusicPredominates 1 year ago
@RectorChori1 Thank you RectorChori1, singing Hylton-Stewart is like putting in cruise control in a vat of chocolate. The man knew how to write Anglican Chant. You are literally fighting tears singing the chant in f, it is that lovely.
And Xfranman, I'd rather be in hell singing H-S than listening to the dreck coming from the Vatican (which IS hell!). The Roman church is far as I am concerned, very far from God.
choirboyfromhell1 1 year ago
@choirboyfromhell1 mmmmmmmm chocolate! I've played at many RC churches over the years and there's one occasion that springs to mind.... I remember a Priest once stating that 'hymn singing is the work of the Devil' and 'they don't come to church to sing, they come to church to be reminded that they will die as sinners'. Which seminary did he appear from?!
RectorChori1 1 year ago
@RectorChori1 to add... I've been treated with much scorn whilst visiting RC Churches and often whilst offering my services freely. The amount of bickering and hatred talk between members of the congregation is saddening - and not just within RC churches. Those evangelical congregations who insist on throwing scriptures around patronisingly and arrogantly... they might as well hit you round the head with the Bible!
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RectorChori1 1 year ago
@RectorChori1 What's truly sad (with the exception of Bavaria) is that there is no singing in the great cathedrals on the continent, and most of the crowd walks out when the priest leaves, despite the organ voluntary or cheap hymn.
"Oh Lord, only say the word I will be healed.....BINGO!"
I get the idea that most in the RCC are there only out of guilt, and they want to get through it as fast as possible. A miserable cult it has turned itself into, and no amount of dogma-
choirboyfromhell1 1 year ago
@choirboyfromhell1 : Well Bavaria was the bastion of Nazism of course. Catholicism is like heroin in Europe. Thanks for your comment !
MusicPredominates 1 year ago
@RectorChori1 -convince me otherwise. It's a sad cult lead by a bunch of old grumpy (mostly) white men very detached from their flock.
choirboyfromhell1 1 year ago
@RectorChori1 : A very good seminary of ideas I should say ! Hymns have much of the world mixed with very little Truth thrown in. Take the carol, God Rest Ye, Merry Gentlemen ! And as for organs, we are all equipped with organs by which to sing, so off to the tinsmiths and brass mongers every organ in Britain thankyou very much !
MusicPredominates 1 year ago
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@MusicPredominates "Be with us, Lord, in all that we do to help share your love and peace with us".
RectorChori1 1 year ago
@MusicPredominates "Be with us, Lord, in all that we do to to help share your love and peace with others".
@MusicPredominates.... the same 'Priest' was later prosecuted for thee most hateful and ungodly act of child molestation - his past kept secret by his employers for many years!
@ all those here to argue the toss..... can we not just enjoy the music?! If you're not a believer in these works then leave and listen to something more to your own personal taste and beliefs.
RectorChori1 1 year ago
I've seen this very presentation - on Catholic t.v. no less - and I'm delighted to have found it here to view/hear whenever I wish. Ignoring the absurd, not to say obscene, nonsense about the Holy Father and the Holy Roman Catholic and Apostolic Church, I wonder if some folks are hearing the powerful words of King David - and God's - heart. Someone may find himself the choirboyINhell. Peace.
Xfranman 1 year ago
@Xfranman : Holy Father ? He is captive of his own institution ! The Holy Roman Catholic and Apostolic Church ? No such thing ! The Pope; the former Cardinal Ratzinger ? A modern day Esau !
MusicPredominates 1 year ago
@MusicPredominates : Nicene creed (omit Roman) more than a millenium before neurotic Marty began scarring Wittenburg's cathedral doors. The (Ratzinger) Pope, not Esau, Peter - the 264th in unbroken succession from Jesus' senior apostle. All there in "The (Holy) Book" some claim infallible while others pick and choose. But that's me. I don't argue with others about theirs. I'm just hoping they've got that purgatory thing down right or I'm in doo-doo deep.
Xfranman 1 year ago
@Xfranman : Fellowship with the Lord Jesus Christ the only way to heaven ! The pope such a weak man. Twice over. Get yourself a copy of the Case of the Pope by the Australian-Anglo or the Anglo-Australian Geoffrey Robertson. The Pope an Esau indeed.
MusicPredominates 1 year ago
Beautiful
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3NUNS 1 year ago
I sang this chant with my choir, The Walbrook Singers at Hereford Cathedral only two weeks ago on a residential visit, but we sang it to Psalm 107 verses 1-14!! Gorgeous tune...!
practicecrazypianist 1 year ago
I think that this Choir is excellent and Christians should learn to return to God's Holy Voice to enable the problems of life that mankind is facing today! May God Bless them all. Tulipan702
tulipan702 1 year ago
Love the Tennor parts about 4mins 50 seconds. Well done!!
nigelmclelland 1 year ago
AMAZING MUSIC!
jackooboy1 1 year ago
wrote on search : psalmul 50 - and choose the first vid
DeathNest94 1 year ago
what is this ??? listen to the orthodox version is not so complex and it's more touching... trust me you'll think you can sense god in that moment
DeathNest94 1 year ago
We all believe in the same God and Jesus but why must we fight...why must we fight?
is it because we all are from different religions...
God loves us all and that's all that really matters!
elisa13 1 year ago
@elisa13 What matters is that the English tradition preserves the important things. God doesn't enter into it. Atheists can love this music, it's a cultural heritage performed in an idiosyncratic musical setting.
UnOxonien 1 year ago
Why is it that the Vatican choirs -- at the very seat of western Christianity -- can't match these guys?
stpetric 1 year ago
Anglicans/Episcopalians would never, ever, change their liturgical/musical heritage. There would be a massive revolt. Music is very important in our services, thankfully so.
901cleo 1 year ago 2
Certainly, since the Vatican Councils & the NO Pauline-Bugnini (1969) service was fabricated Roman Catholic liturgical standards have plummeted to banality & taken musical repertoire and quality with it. We need to restore The Latin Mass of All Time codified by Pope St Pius V & the Tridentine Councils to restore choral standards.
In the meantime, High Anglican choral tradition is a true musical gem that needs to be maintained at all costs. It is magnificent. It is unique & incomparable.
hughraphaeli 1 year ago 6
@hughraphaeli Thank you. Vatican II is to blame!
wainscottbl 1 year ago
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I agree. Though, the NO said correctly can be quite beautiful...
I am not defending the NO, though.
hiroshi2020 1 year ago
Hi there, thanks for the video it is a great blessing too me. Love them
orchidilly8 1 year ago 2
Amen!
echa199 1 year ago
Where can we find this song for download?
OneHolyTrinity 1 year ago
This is sung beautifully!
I miss it so much, 34 years later in Australia, it brought me tears
jiloml75 2 years ago 9
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3NUNS 2 years ago
@jiloml75 Yes - but you've grown up so much in those 34 years since leaving
vernvern4 1 year ago
@jiloml75 Go to Christchurch Cathedral, Newcastle NSW - psalms are beautifully sung to Anglican Chant with wonderful organ and Organist there .
fatherkent 1 year ago
Amen!
Qreqorius 2 years ago
a taste of heaven- proof that Scripture requires Psalms and hymns and spiritual songs- BUT PSALMS FIRST!
beast543210 2 years ago 18
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3NUNS 2 years ago
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this crap sucks!....try Psalm 50 - Romanian Orthodox Byzantine Chant not this crap...the heart and the voice must be the only musical instruments...
cataspecial 2 years ago
"Praise him in the sound of the trumpet : praise him upon the lute and harp. Praise him in the cymbals and dances : praise him upon the strings and pipe." (God.) Only musical instrument my backside.
5 Praise him upon the well-tuned cymbals : praise him upon the loud cymbals.
baldwalrus7 2 years ago 10
try psalm 150, according to the Bible, we are encouraged to use any intrument we can get a hold of to praise God.
kensingtonpalace 2 years ago 6
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This is awful. I've listened to good choirs, I've sung in good choirs, this is just.. a long, preachy psalm set to computer-generatable music.
FreeRadical64 2 years ago
May God forgive you. Did you try to read, pray and sing through this psalm as they are singing it. Why condemning this great contribution to the wok of God on earth? You have to calm down and allow the spirit of God flow in you to enjoy and understand and be filled with this prayer of King David given to the redeemed and beloved children of God.
gbolagun 2 years ago 22
Amen!
baldwalrus7 2 years ago 12
Thank you very much, my friend. God bless you. Amen!
gbolagun 2 years ago 5
@gbolagun I also agree with you and second that emotion....Peace be with You for All Eternity in the Name of Jesus..the Angels of Heaven have praised Your good works and Comments through the Mercy of Jesus Christ...Amen
ConwingL162007 1 year ago
So good to see that some Anglicans are joining the Catholic Church (and hopefully bringing their musical traditions with them - then we might start to enhance and replace the beautiful music we binned at Vatican II!!
MixtureBoy 10 months ago 2
@MixtureBoy a huge mistake to combine the Anglican Service with the Roman Catholics... didn't we take care of that hundreds of years ago with Henry and his Daughter Elizabeth.. on a more lighter note.. have you heard the music at St.Peters on midnight mass...HORRID... the Catholic church is so boring...and here in North America ( Canada & State - their take on modern Church music is very FOLK oriented and terrible... I have played for several Catholic churches here when they were in a bind...
timothyj1966 5 months ago
@MixtureBoy - on another note.. most Canadian Anglicans cringe at the the thought of joining the Roman Catholics... just a feel they miss the mark with not only their preaching, teaching but lack of spirit in their worship ( music ) I shutter at the thought...
timothyj1966 5 months ago
This is Anglican hymn-singing....at it's best!!!
lanamaid 2 years ago 9
If the bible is allowed to be read aloud, then why do some consider it blasphemous to sing the bible aloud. I am refering here to "I am the Bread of LIfe".
Justme1583 2 years ago
I conduct a choir in a Catholic church, and I love the Gregorian chant, but when I listen so much music unsuitable in the Catholic church ... I prefer the Anglican chant!!... The English choral tradition is really wonderful!
And what matter if it is done by Protestants, Calvinists or Baptists?
This music is wonderful because it is in perfect harmony with the text sung and the Choir of King's College is one of the best that can be listen ! I would like to live in UK only for this! Mary
tritus67 2 years ago
What Catholic Philosophy?
Quote your source.
The original argument here is that the "Roman" countries have been devastating to classical church music, Westminster Cathedral notwithstanding. That's a fact you can't deny.
Define 'Catholic' It ain't just the Roman freaking Church.
choirboyfromhell1 2 years ago
No, the Roman countries haven't been devastating to music, the Pope has... ;-)
I think the fact that the English choirs are still flourishing is indeed because they are not under the influence of the Vatican. The consevative thoughts and stupid dogmas from Rome is killing for catholic churches and choirs and I see this in my city every day.
DonRaphel 2 years ago
??? That is an illogical statement.
How can the pope be destroying Catholic choral music? He has been very benevolent and highly appraising of Traditionalism. The Traditionalists are the ones upholding sacred choral music in churches.
choirboy526 2 years ago 4
Absolutely bang on Don Raphel. We in the Anglican faith are not afraid to admit that we don't know all yet what is God, yet we try (at least the sensible of us) to preserve what is dear to us and pass it on.
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3NUNS 1 year ago
@DonRaphel
Your statement is fraught with ignorance. The Pope himself, is a great lover of classical music especially choral music & has been advocating a return to traditional forms of music especially during Holy Mass. The Catholic love for tradition is not killing anything except the ugliness of modern practices. Please check out videos all over youtube of the music during His Holiness's recent PAPAL VISIT TO BRITAIN. It included both Latin hymns & Anglican hymns.
zacman4u 1 year ago 2
@zacman4u Thank you for your defense of the beauty of ancient tradition. Of course, many modern composers create beautiful music, but I think that in an attempt to be "original", many create nothing but novelty and nonsense, and, ultimately, as you say, the ugly. Bless you.
glenxaris 1 year ago
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3NUNS 11 months ago
@3NUNS The Pope is the head of God's church. Our Lord said to St. Peter "thou art rock, and from this rock I shall build my church". You try and find another church with an unbroken line of heads from St. Peter.
hiroshi2020 11 months ago
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3NUNS 11 months ago
@3NUNS My question is unanswered, which many people of your position often do. S Mat 16:17Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father, who is in heaven. And I say to you, that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it. Please, lets not fill up this good video's comment board with this. If you want to respond, send me a message.
hiroshi2020 11 months ago
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3NUNS 11 months ago
Quit incorrect. It is not the teaching of Catholicism that the pope is the head of the Church. The Catechism clearly states - as does Scripture - that Christ is the Head of the Church. The pope is the vicar (i.e. representative) of Christ but not the Head of the Church.
albanman 10 months ago
@albanman Yes, I know, thank you for making that clear. I should have phrased it in a more proper way. But it would be true to say that as the representative of Christ, the Holy Father is the head of the Church on earth, would it not?
hiroshi2020 10 months ago
I can agree with you... But it is not in ALL the European Catholic churches...Surely, modernism is affecting and destroying the good religious music supposed to be in Churches... But there are also good churches that still pertain to the Roman Catholic Choral tradition.
do you mean Catholic or catholic?
The Catholic faith is that which pertains to the Church and is universal. The catholic quality means it is just universal.
choirboy526 2 years ago 3
Good, I 'm glad you have a Meriam-Webster Dictionary handy for moments like this. Now grab your rosary and pray hard for those who are singing 'I am the Bread of Life' or anything from 'Celebration', along with Father Chuck and Mister Microphone.
choirboyfromhell1 2 years ago
Yes, I will pray for them...
I'm sure absolutely none of that is going on in the episcopalian parishes either...
:P
There is something called the Latin Mass in the Catholic Church.
choirboy526 2 years ago 2
Really? Is that a fact? LOL.
I sing at Tridentines with the local Latin Choir, that is, when the local (Roman) bishop isn't giving them fits. The local diocese allows dispensation for two parishes (out of 230) to say (sing) the Tridentine. One of the parishes only does organ masses, so that leaves one unpaid choir to delve into the likes of Palestrina, Victoria, Du Fay, de Lassus and the like in a metro area of about 2 million.
choirboyfromhell1 2 years ago
That's horrible. Those bishops should be thrown out.
However, the pope is in working. Soon, the Latin mass and the true novus ordo will have its pride in the parishes.
Westminster cathedral Choir sings for a solemn high Latin Mass every day.
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3NUNS 1 year ago
oh protestants.... you are convenient only for producing wonderful ecclesial music!
God bless you despite everything...
gregoriusXVII 1 year ago
@gregoriusXVII And we'll be in heaven singing good music...because we want to, not because of some dogmatic obligation....
choirboyfromhell1 1 year ago
@gregoriusXVII compare Black Gospel, Kings College ...to the dire, sad, amatuer voices of the boys at StPeters midnight mass... pitiful... of all services of the year... compare them to Kings College... the Bible says to make a joyful noise unto the Lord... Catholics... seem to be missing this... played at dozens of Catholic churhes over the years...they can tell I am a Protestant boy...by the beauty I put into the Praise... Music God's gift through me...
timothyj1966 1 year ago
@timothyj1966 Gotta disagree with you there, brother. Think for a moment; the original culture that brought out Psalm 50 was Hebraic, not American. That means that what we think of as a "joyful noise" was NOT what the Psalmist would. True, the Jews had wonderfully upbeat music but Psalms is full of dirges and laments. Moreso that "happy tunes".
This is good music in its content: Medieval & European. It glorifies God. Perhaps it's not in your taste but that doesn't make it less spiritual. Peace!
ElJibaroBravo 1 year ago
@gregoriusXVII I disagree with you but THAT was funny! XD
God bless you, Brother!
BTW - I don't think the Anglicans would be too fond of you calling them Protestants. You know, with that whole "via media" view and all.
ElJibaroBravo 1 year ago
@ElJibaroBravo the Anglicans have turned praise into a High art form, music used of God to bless, minister and move through His spirit... I was just saying from a musical point of view...there is nothing in the Catholic church ( ROME & North America) that even comes close to as moving as Kings College, I always found the Catholic services ( mass ) deadly dull, dry, unpraiseful
timothyj1966 1 year ago
@timothyj1966 Have you discovered the Latin Mass? or the Anglican Use?
hiroshi2020 1 year ago
@timothyj1966 : Yea, verily that is true !
MusicPredominates 1 year ago
@choirboyfromhell1 from my musical experience... as a organist for many different denominations... the music in the Roman Catholic church is dire, dead, plain, unjoyful, not very moving or pretty... where as alot of the Protestant churches music is joyful, soulful, sweet, and above all Praiseful... compare the nine lessons on Christmas eve at Kings College Cambridge to the very dry, and casual voices of St Peters on of all nights and service Christmas Eve Mass...point in case... amatuer
timothyj1966 1 year ago
@choirboyfromhell1
You are like a Cathar or Donatist who dares to criticise the Church of God for not being up to your own extraordinary levels of personal purity. How about this--return to the one body of Christ, extra quam salus non est, and then set about reforming her, following in the footsteps of Athanasius rather than Tertullian.
baldwalrus7 1 year ago
@baldwalrus7 Yeah, sure whatever. I'd just rather sing evensong.
choirboyfromhell1 1 year ago
i love the chant and psalm, but i prefer the music of saint pauls cathedral choir london, their technique is superb than kings college and chant selection is unmatched
whaleswolex 2 years ago
Sublime. The Choir of Kings college at its usuall best, accompanied by a wonderful H&H Organ.
keybora 2 years ago
Wonderfull,,, sublime song!
pertencoacristo 2 years ago
this is so moving, its reverentially sung even though its taken from the 16th century where worship of God was simple and understandable. In my view this is the equivalent of sacred gregorian chant and very moving and inspiring
kalidastony 2 years ago
It sounds like a superb organ, but the finest liturgical music is always unaccompanied. In the Russian Orthodox Church, an organ is neither allowed nor needed.
Baileathacliath666 2 years ago
That's a rather sweeping statement! Some of the finest liturgical music not only has organ accompaniment, but also orchestral accompaniment e.g. Mozart and Haydn Masses.
ZBQY5 2 years ago
The Russian Orthodox church doesn't seem very traditional not using polyphonic instruments....
But it's true, some of the finest music does not require organ: palestrina, Victoria, Lassus, Tallis, Byrd...
choirboy526 2 years ago
they sound good n thier soud is well
dofus49dudeboy 2 years ago
The organ accompaniment is truly sublime!
choirboy526 2 years ago 2
I always love the Psalm when it is sung!
jackooboy1 2 years ago 2
Odd but interesting statements - are they your words?
Andante735 2 years ago
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How can such severe words be sung so lovingly? There is a sense of immense power behind their meaning and yet the composer gives them such a human character. Did the psalmist really give God such humanity in the first place? I am really glad Jesus was invented. Only such a character can hold together the inexorability of the universe and the necessity to be positive.
pablomelendez 2 years ago
note that in anglican chant, melodies aren't written for specific psalms.
on a separate point, all the 'nastyness' in the bible is countered by our being redeemed, so even the most damning words can be sung to cheery music since salvation will come in the end
sirinferno 2 years ago 2
Please... in Personal Message, explain to me WHAT, specifically is Anglican Chant ? We do it in my church. I know it when I hear it. And yet, I can't DEFINE it.
I have Honor.
I admit my Ignorance......
PAX
anglicansag 2 years ago
Well essentially, what it is is an attempt and rather successful one by the Anglicans, the most musical of Christian denominations to put music and melody to the psalms of David.
Lest we forget, the psalms were put to music often times stringed instruments.
The chants are at times the most entertaining of the music at an Anglican sevice minus Christmas and Easter and that's saying something since many people go to Anglican churches strictly for the music.
qlaw04 2 years ago
What do you mean: "most musical of Christian denominations"? I don't think that's true. Catholic Masses are tradition filled with chant, as are Orthodox liturgies, and everyone knows how important Luther thought music was to worship (as do his followers).
baldwalrus7 2 years ago
Oh yes, the Roman Church is a stellar example of present day musicality in Christianity, just suffer through one of their countless guitar masses. And make sure you go to a cathedral in France, then one in England and see you still think the same. And Luther might have been friendly to music, but his successors in Calvinism where anything but.
choirboyfromhell1 2 years ago
Keep in mind everyone... King's College, St. John's College, and almost every other cathedral choir in England was once Catholic... Boys choirs are COMPLETELY from Catholic Choral Tradition.
choirboy526 2 years ago 3
They still are 'catholic'. Just not Roman.
choirboyfromhell1 2 years ago
Not of the Catholic Philosophy. ..
And yes... all of it is from Roman Catholic Choral tradition...
Westminster Cathedral is Catholic... they have choir almost equivalent to King's
choirboy526 2 years ago
Westminster Cathedral is "Continental". I think one of the few, maybe the only, cathedral choir in Enland with boy altos. In England very rare, in Germany, France and The Netherlands very normal. (My choir has boy altos, too.)
DonRaphel 2 years ago
You're quite right that Catholic music is currently in a rather sordid place. Hopefully, we'll restore the Josquin, Byrd, Tallis, Palestrina, and Perotin soon! I wouldn't say that Calvin was a successor to Luther; they each created separate churches with rather different views of music and everything else (the nature of the Sacraments, etc.). Bach was of course a Lutheran; I don't think Calvinists are nearly as friendly to "earthly" beauty.
baldwalrus7 2 years ago
You're absolutely right, Luther was theological, Calvin was doctrinal and Henry VIII was political.
Funny thing, in the small town where I grew up the Presbyterians were the musical church (although their liturgy was non-existent), strange how things get turned around in the course of time. And there are plenty of Episcopal parishes that have shamefully destroyed their music traditions. Blame it on the leadership of all of our denominations.
choirboyfromhell1 2 years ago
let's not forget the sins of the angelican church, what with it's electric guitar, piano and drum masses.
the situation is pretty much the same everywhere in both denominations; go to a local church, you'll be lucky to get a psalm. go to a cathedral/abbey/larger church, there's a chance you'll get decent music.
sirinferno 2 years ago
Yep, we learnt that from the Romans.
Inadvertently walked into a (Episcopal) eucharist the other day with a drum combo, piano and power point projector. Freak'in white middle-aged suburbanites stuck in continual mid-life crisis and raised on rock-n-roll (and of course can't read music).
choirboyfromhell1 2 years ago 4
lol, you may have learnt it from us, but you've certainly perfected the art of a lame techno-mass, but enough of that.
i'd happily do gregorian chant and would prefer to use the tridentine mass. it seems however the those in power in both denominations seem to think modernising church music is crucial for giving off a 'modern' image and inviting youth and what not. i'd argue it's heavily counter productive, but when when you've got influential people saying they love crap, what can you do...
sirinferno 2 years ago
I sing (ring) at an occasional Tridentine 9the only one allow in this area) with their Latin choir. It is quite moving as is the Anglican Chants, Howells canticles, Harris anthems, etc., are to me. Quite odd the first time I experienced a "silent" prayer of consecration (canon of mass), that was a little bit of a shocker-
Why can't we have a church that is intelligent, and yet respectful of the traditions of the past and relish in the arts?
choirboyfromhell1 2 years ago
The Church is respectful of the past and even in the arts ... but often the people choose not to listen and ignore what is truly beautiful ....How sad....God is beauty, and deserves only the best!
Mary
tritus67 2 years ago
lol no
BenjaminMJ 2 years ago
the cliques are in, and it's ridiculously difficult to get them out.
and the more we entertain the likes of christopher walker, paul inwood, bernadette farrel (to name a few), the harder it becomes to get rid of them and their poor excuse for music. they won't give up without a fight, because 1.) it's worth a ridiculous amount of money, 2.) they've probably deluded themselves into thinking their music is better than the traditional stuff
sirinferno 2 years ago
Let's not forget Jay Althouse (Outhouse).
Vote with your feet and don't be afraid to call the Emperor's new clothes for what they are.
choirboyfromhell1 2 years ago
oh yes, there's another criminal. michael joncas, yet another. there are too many to name tbh.
the problem with voting with your feet is that it'll deteriorate, but there won't come a point when people will go "hang on, this is rubbish". calling out the emperor's new clothes is certainly possible, but in a sea of voices shouting 'bravo', your voice may not be heard...
sirinferno 2 years ago
I've seen enough of the silly types singing "Bread of Life" with their hands outstretched to know that' there's no substitute for a good (musical) education. Here in the USA we're too obsessed with football, getting stoned and worrying about making the next payment on the SUV. Is it any wonder we are where we are, at least here.
choirboyfromhell1 2 years ago 3
I'm Catholic we may be the originators of chant but the Anglicans are way more serious about perfecting what we started and he's right, the Anglican church has the richest music-they spend more time educating people about music and its usually executed far more superior in their churches. Don't let me become Pope I would get an Anglican choir to lead the music. As a choirdirector/organ I'd take an anglican choir over a Catholic one anydayprecisionHave u heard the Sistine chapel choir? Horrible!
blackmaestro 2 years ago
Actually, the person who is to be thanked for developing Gregorian chant in England is Sr. Mary Berry... A Roman Catholic Canoness
choirboy526 2 years ago 5
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tritus67 2 years ago
Anglican Chant is similar to Gregorian chant psalm tones...
They sing repeatedly the melody and harmony on the sentences of the psalm. They can indicate this by arabic numerals. Pointing to where the notes are supposed to be sung...
choirboy526 2 years ago 3
Chant that is sung to four part-SATB (the melody is usually in the soprano), and metricized.
choirboyfromhell1 2 years ago 2
Exodus 15:1: "I will sing to the LORD, for he is highly exalted.
Beautiful
hannahtova 2 years ago
Stunning. 5* Sometimes I wish I were a 12 yo boy!
Musicliz1 2 years ago
Lovely, just LOVELY.
PAHS09 2 years ago 7
Thank you so so much for posting this... it's very dear to me on many levels. It makes me want to cry. Stunningly beautiful!!
dap1979 3 years ago
we cannot overemphasise the fact that the entire world is really blessed by Anglican chants. great worship of our Lord and God. God is awesome. i am still searching for chants of psalms 145 to 150 by this wonderful choir. God bless you all and Happy Chrismas and New Year.
gbolagun 3 years ago 4
"Thinkest thou that I will eat bulls' flesh : and drink the blood of goats?"
LOL! This is why I love the BCP!
jg5912 3 years ago 2
What meanest thou by the (BCP) I hate acronims but this is my favourite DGAF
joetoorivers 3 years ago
Book of Common Prayer! Best translation of the psalms EVER!
jg5912 3 years ago 5
Ah yes the Coverdale translation. To me it is some of the best literature in the English language.
Knappa22 3 years ago