I can see why Abrams reversed the decision. The ref clearly sees Col. Red smack Valiant with the cane yet doesn't DQ Koloff due to interference.
Nonetheless, it does represent shitty booking on Abrams' part. All he wanted was an opportunity to play the hero but couldn't book it right.
I wonder why so many wrestlers from 1983-94 sported mullets. I could name at least 50 wrestlers who sported them, from main eventers to local job guys.
They used to do TV tapings at the Hotel Pennsylvania in NYC, and their "arena" looked absolutely filthy as hell. A high school gym would have been better. Plus their ring looked at times like it was about to collapse. Herbie had some good wrestlers, but most were over-the-hill veterans like Koloff, Valiant, Orton Jr., Orndorff, etc. And who the fuck would give a push to Barry Horowitz? In the words of Rick James: "Cocaine is a hell of a drug."
....On the "going on in the UWF." UGH....this editing is horrible even for the early 90's. I do love how Herb comes out and starts screaming in his cheap UWF jacket
What I don't get is that the ref allowed Valiant to use the cane on Koloff, and then Koloff got to use a rope on Valiant. But when Col. Red used the cane on Valiant, Koloff got DQed.
Herb Abrams was a pioneer of wrestling executives getting involved in angles. The guy was horrible at everything he did but I just can't hate the guy, he was absolutely hilarious. The man really loved the sport but didn't have a clue in regards to running a federation. Still, you've got to love the way he bought the farm. I don't think anyone's death was as bizarre as his.
Yeah, I would consider suffering a heart attack while smashing hotel furniture, wearing a diaper, covered in baby oil, being pampered by some 2 dollar whore to be pretty bizarre, lol.
wow Herb Abrams promo was HORRIBLE i mean jesus christ there was no follow up on i am going to get you its i am going to get you does not state what he plans to do to colonel red.also those production vaules are reteched its like the filmed their show on 1 side of a high school gym awful promotion nothing needs to be said about it
Col. Red was one of the lamest managers ever. He yelled loud that was about it. With his dumpy apperance & thick southern accent, which made him almost incomprehesible, he was never gonna get over with a national audience. Jimmy Valiant looked so sickly & emaciated here that a strong wind would knock him over. He was totally not credible in the ring at this point. Herb Abrams was a total mark who desperately tried to book himself into a angle to feed his ego.
everything on point i mean Abrams was someone who was such a mark that he got a guy called DAVEY Meltzer just to job him out to talnet because of what big dave wrote about him in the newsletter i mean how big of a mark can you get
I think that was done BEFORE Meltzer wrote that piece about Abrams. I guess you could say naming a jobber Davey Meltzer was a pre-emptive strike as to what was to come from ol Herbie
A Pissed Off Running Up Credit Cards And Never Paying Them Off Mark? Come on! I know one fan to the other would love to book there own fed and call a jobber "Marky Mark Madden" Or "Bull Schmidt" Bobby Ryder.
Wrestling was very popular at the time (between 1986 and 1992), and TV network executives probably thought that if they couldn't show WWF or WCW programming, anything would do.
Oh yes, I know that. However, ESPN had TV deals with both AWA and World Class, both promotions had higher production values and more talent, but had gone belly up by this time. UWF also started during the short wrestling recession of 90-91. (92 was a huge rebound before the near collapse in the mid-1990s) I just wonder what ESPN was thinking.
well ESPN still wanted wrestling as at this time it was still a nice piece of ratings but with the AWA dead and World Class renamed the USWA and no Von Erich there at all there was really no talent pool avalible as WWF was on USA and syndication WCW on TBS nothing else was really avalible in 1992 so that is why ESPN took a chance on the UWF and then ESPN never wanted wrestling on again
I don't think UWF ever aired on ESPN until 1995 or so on ESPN2 and then it was just re-runs of the Fury Hour. I think the promotion you're thinking of was Global, run by Joe Pedicino and then later Grey Pierson. They held the afternoon timeslot after the World Class/USWA run ended
ESPN never aired original run UWF content. UWF was aired on SportsChannel America (now-defunct). In 1995 (when UWF was still alive in name, but wasn't holding cards or producing new content) ESPN2, still basically in its infancy, aired re-runs really to fill out its schedule much like the original ESPN often grasped at straws to fill out its schedule in the early days. In the 2000's ESPN Classic began re-airing the shows after repackaging by UWF tape library owner Al Burke.
Herb Abrams was a HUGE cokehead who died in quite possibly the funniest way ever to go out. He died while wearing a diaper, covered in baby oil while being pampered by some whore in which he had a massive heart attack due to going ape shit while in a cocaine induced stupor
One thing I never understood was how the UWF went from ok (not great but ok) production values in 1990 to absolute shit in 1992. Horrible editing, horrible camera work, horrible lighting and horrible graphics. It looks like something from 1981, not 1992. How their production values got to be so horrible in a span of two years is beyond me
I think it has direct correlation with the amount of cocaine he was doing. I mean, you're the kind of guy who dies from a cocaine overdose, you probably spent more money on cocaine in 1992 than you did in 1990.
LOL no he is a Veggie only eater. Was down at his camp last summer. he and the Mrs are 2 of the coolest, nicest people I have met. He looked to be about 175 pounds when I seen him. But man is he a healthy, for 60 plus year old his cardio is superb...
Jimmy just needs his music, that'll get him going again. I remember Kevin Casey from the SAPW (South Atlantic Pro Wrestling.) Unfortunately, Horowitz doesn't get any graphics but Death Row 3260 does. Interesting. I remember the perpetual screaming machine that Abrams was and how unshocked I was when I found out what killed him.
I can see why Abrams reversed the decision. The ref clearly sees Col. Red smack Valiant with the cane yet doesn't DQ Koloff due to interference.
Nonetheless, it does represent shitty booking on Abrams' part. All he wanted was an opportunity to play the hero but couldn't book it right.
I wonder why so many wrestlers from 1983-94 sported mullets. I could name at least 50 wrestlers who sported them, from main eventers to local job guys.
lustyhitter 4 months ago
5:31 is the funniest thing I've ever ever seen in wrestling. It's so abrupt.
OzzyMandez 4 months ago
This makes me appreciate TNA more -________-
RSXemperor85 4 months ago
That's one high-powered mullet on the Colonel, there.
6stringsamurai7 5 months ago
Col. at 1:30-1:34 = "Who's grabbing the mic from my hand..., oh yeah, it's Abrams, time to act in character " *face change in two steps, throw fit
SeagalismyHero 11 months ago
They used to do TV tapings at the Hotel Pennsylvania in NYC, and their "arena" looked absolutely filthy as hell. A high school gym would have been better. Plus their ring looked at times like it was about to collapse. Herbie had some good wrestlers, but most were over-the-hill veterans like Koloff, Valiant, Orton Jr., Orndorff, etc. And who the fuck would give a push to Barry Horowitz? In the words of Rick James: "Cocaine is a hell of a drug."
elc1960 1 year ago
UWF production values were about a step below a high school a/v class.
frrrrrunkis 1 year ago
Listen to the HEAT Col. Red is getting! INSANNNNE! That is old school rasslin' like it used to be in the good old days.
crackhead2006 1 year ago
....On the "going on in the UWF." UGH....this editing is horrible even for the early 90's. I do love how Herb comes out and starts screaming in his cheap UWF jacket
TVTraX 1 year ago
What I don't get is that the ref allowed Valiant to use the cane on Koloff, and then Koloff got to use a rope on Valiant. But when Col. Red used the cane on Valiant, Koloff got DQed.
SaskBlade 1 year ago
The NIGHT-STAAK-AHH!!!
buckmartinez 1 year ago 2
You can see Abrahms put the blade to the head
runway27r 1 year ago
I never heard Barry Horrorwitz described as "dastardly" . Maybe Herb hates jews?
davesecx 2 years ago
@davesecx Not likely - Herbie was Jewish as well.
elc1960 1 year ago
Wow....amazingly Bad! "Bright and cheery" Steve Ray?..wow..
TUFprofan 2 years ago
This is something that one cannot be braced for...
Especially @ 5:30
shootbinary 2 years ago
herb abrams od'd on drugs while wearing a diaper in 1995. i'm not lying
IamUberStein 2 years ago
Herb Abrams was a pioneer of wrestling executives getting involved in angles. The guy was horrible at everything he did but I just can't hate the guy, he was absolutely hilarious. The man really loved the sport but didn't have a clue in regards to running a federation. Still, you've got to love the way he bought the farm. I don't think anyone's death was as bizarre as his.
brighat 2 years ago 2
Yeah, I would consider suffering a heart attack while smashing hotel furniture, wearing a diaper, covered in baby oil, being pampered by some 2 dollar whore to be pretty bizarre, lol.
AlbanianMan 2 years ago 3
Amazing Herb was so bad he was good.
He's still better than half the WWE
kinghetzer 2 years ago
wow Herb Abrams promo was HORRIBLE i mean jesus christ there was no follow up on i am going to get you its i am going to get you does not state what he plans to do to colonel red.also those production vaules are reteched its like the filmed their show on 1 side of a high school gym awful promotion nothing needs to be said about it
dadirrtywhyteboi 2 years ago
I will not interview JIMMY VALIAAAAAAAAAANT~!!!!!
dsriggs 2 years ago 3
thats a stunning mullet/centre parting/bouffant combo col red has there.
carbunkle07 2 years ago
This would be passable if Col Red would actually wear, you know, red.
chrisz31974 2 years ago
"Boogie Woogie Man" Jimmy Valiant is actually billed as 6"2 252lbs. He looks to be about 120lbs, and 5"9?
ApachePiL0T 2 years ago
Cocaine will do that to a guy. Poor Jimmy.
ants84 2 years ago
Jimmy Valiant was a great wrestler but he looked like death by the time of this video.
sdpatri 3 years ago
I will never , ever get tired of this
PhilM662 3 years ago 2
Me neither. Running a wrestling promotion looks so easy after watching these few minutes of genius.
CZ61600 3 years ago
Col. Red was one of the lamest managers ever. He yelled loud that was about it. With his dumpy apperance & thick southern accent, which made him almost incomprehesible, he was never gonna get over with a national audience. Jimmy Valiant looked so sickly & emaciated here that a strong wind would knock him over. He was totally not credible in the ring at this point. Herb Abrams was a total mark who desperately tried to book himself into a angle to feed his ego.
Lfdjake91 3 years ago
That was funny Lfd... but very true. What turned into a lame fued anyway was made worse by Abrahams making the whole thing about himself.
phenomfranklinstein 3 years ago
Agreed - Red was terrible. Who was he and where else did he work?
jwblhojer 2 years ago
He was a trainee from Jimmy Valiant's wrestling school who had previously worked for some Southern indies.
Lfdjake91 2 years ago
That makes sense. I've seen some video and photos of some Valiant graduates - they do not appear ready for prime time.
jwblhojer 2 years ago
everything on point i mean Abrams was someone who was such a mark that he got a guy called DAVEY Meltzer just to job him out to talnet because of what big dave wrote about him in the newsletter i mean how big of a mark can you get
dadirrtywhyteboi 2 years ago
I think that was done BEFORE Meltzer wrote that piece about Abrams. I guess you could say naming a jobber Davey Meltzer was a pre-emptive strike as to what was to come from ol Herbie
AlbanianMan 2 years ago
A Pissed Off Running Up Credit Cards And Never Paying Them Off Mark? Come on! I know one fan to the other would love to book there own fed and call a jobber "Marky Mark Madden" Or "Bull Schmidt" Bobby Ryder.
HorrorUniverse 2 years ago
This is a truely horrible segment. Bad, over-the-top acting, editing, graphics & production values reminiscent of a cable access TV show.
Lfdjake91 3 years ago 2
I could produce a better wrestling show (but then again, I'm a film student)
lawrence142002 3 years ago
Liar. This is the GREATEST production of ANY SHOW EVER.
EVER.
Rulinator 3 years ago 2
What I'm wondering is how did this promotion get a TV deal?
lawrence142002 3 years ago
Wrestling was very popular at the time (between 1986 and 1992), and TV network executives probably thought that if they couldn't show WWF or WCW programming, anything would do.
CZ61600 3 years ago
Oh yes, I know that. However, ESPN had TV deals with both AWA and World Class, both promotions had higher production values and more talent, but had gone belly up by this time. UWF also started during the short wrestling recession of 90-91. (92 was a huge rebound before the near collapse in the mid-1990s) I just wonder what ESPN was thinking.
lawrence142002 3 years ago
well ESPN still wanted wrestling as at this time it was still a nice piece of ratings but with the AWA dead and World Class renamed the USWA and no Von Erich there at all there was really no talent pool avalible as WWF was on USA and syndication WCW on TBS nothing else was really avalible in 1992 so that is why ESPN took a chance on the UWF and then ESPN never wanted wrestling on again
dadirrtywhyteboi 2 years ago
I don't think UWF ever aired on ESPN until 1995 or so on ESPN2 and then it was just re-runs of the Fury Hour. I think the promotion you're thinking of was Global, run by Joe Pedicino and then later Grey Pierson. They held the afternoon timeslot after the World Class/USWA run ended
AlbanianMan 2 years ago
I heard Joe Pedicino was a mark for big talent as well, and having marriage problems like Herb did with his wife and steve ray.
HorrorUniverse 2 years ago
@lawrence142002
ESPN never aired original run UWF content. UWF was aired on SportsChannel America (now-defunct). In 1995 (when UWF was still alive in name, but wasn't holding cards or producing new content) ESPN2, still basically in its infancy, aired re-runs really to fill out its schedule much like the original ESPN often grasped at straws to fill out its schedule in the early days. In the 2000's ESPN Classic began re-airing the shows after repackaging by UWF tape library owner Al Burke.
TheToughBrets 2 years ago
Because it's THAT AMAZING!
Rulinator 3 years ago
Let's be fair, the Colonel OWNS this corner. He's the Pimp of UWF!
Rulinator 3 years ago
Those Production values and graphics are fucking ace!
Rulinator 3 years ago
Vince is taking notes from this clip, I'm sure.
juntadeluxe 3 years ago
Herb Abrams was a HUGE cokehead who died in quite possibly the funniest way ever to go out. He died while wearing a diaper, covered in baby oil while being pampered by some whore in which he had a massive heart attack due to going ape shit while in a cocaine induced stupor
AlbanianMan 3 years ago
IIRC, the cops were involved as well.
jwblhojer 2 years ago
Uh the editing for "The Fury Hour" makes RF Video shoot interviews look like Oscar awarding winning films
TVTraX 3 years ago
One thing I never understood was how the UWF went from ok (not great but ok) production values in 1990 to absolute shit in 1992. Horrible editing, horrible camera work, horrible lighting and horrible graphics. It looks like something from 1981, not 1992. How their production values got to be so horrible in a span of two years is beyond me
AlbanianMan 3 years ago 2
I think it has direct correlation with the amount of cocaine he was doing. I mean, you're the kind of guy who dies from a cocaine overdose, you probably spent more money on cocaine in 1992 than you did in 1990.
timg138 3 years ago
Which also explains his self push. The more coke, the more he pushed himself on tv.
If you can get to see it, the Captain's corner with Herb and Mr.Red is hilarious, not intentionally though.
juntadeluxe 3 years ago
@juntadeluxe - Where can the captains corner segment be seen? I would love to see more of this feud. LOL
cja2k8 1 year ago
it should be said again, that this is amazing
PhilM662 3 years ago
I'm amazed, amazed that this stuff got to air.
junta028 3 years ago
lol, thank God it did though
PhilM662 3 years ago
Own this corner? Well, he does look like a low grade pimp.
buckmartinez 4 years ago 2
Face hurting laughter.
cja2k8 4 years ago 3
this is on in america now on espn classic
PhilM662 4 years ago 2
Yep, I saw it just last night on ESPN classic. They were wrestling in a high school gymnasium
AlbanianMan 4 years ago
so where did they tape these shows?
nwapro1 4 years ago
Mainly in high school gyms and dingy nightclubs. One of the PPVs took place at the 20,000-seat Las Vegas Coliseum, but only 200 people attended.
CZ61600 4 years ago
I remember Mick Foley talking about that.
jwblhojer 2 years ago
This is off the charts of the unintentional comedy scale.
djm182 4 years ago 7
Was the boogie-man on a starvation diet?
zaius316 4 years ago 7
I use to think it was cancer, but now i think its just the booze and not having money left over for food.
collectionagency1 4 years ago
LOL no he is a Veggie only eater. Was down at his camp last summer. he and the Mrs are 2 of the coolest, nicest people I have met. He looked to be about 175 pounds when I seen him. But man is he a healthy, for 60 plus year old his cardio is superb...
maddogwrestlingfan 4 years ago
Jimmy just needs his music, that'll get him going again. I remember Kevin Casey from the SAPW (South Atlantic Pro Wrestling.) Unfortunately, Horowitz doesn't get any graphics but Death Row 3260 does. Interesting. I remember the perpetual screaming machine that Abrams was and how unshocked I was when I found out what killed him.
salanh 4 years ago
"The 6 foot 9 NIGHTSTALKAAAAAAAAAAA!" I laughed at that, along with "The ever dastardly Barry Horowitz".
Xtreme21888 4 years ago 2