I gotta disagree with Nature Boy on this one.Hulk Hogan was NOT,and IS NOT one of the greatest champions ever.Hogan is a product of professional wrestling promoters wanting him as champion.He was,and is,a GIMMICK.The wrestling fans loved Hogan because the promoters shoved him down their throats.As my boy Shane Douglas would say,"you are a character from the 80's,you sucked then and you suck now" .C'mon Ric take credit where credit is due.You are and always will be the greatest champion EVER.
Ric Flair was out of his mind when he said he was sad that Sting never worked for Vince McMahon. Not lowering himself to the WWE level is what made Sting a strong champion and one of the greatest champions ever. He had a good explanation of why he didn't go to WWE, and I'm 100% sure he made the right choice.
When Crockett bought up all the other NWA territories,the days of the traveling World Champion was over and Ric Flair was the Champion of the era.These other guys that captured the belt during WCW time period can't compare to the true old glory days of the old NWA World Heavyweight Champion because that guy went all over the world territory by territory.The World Title of today is nothing more than a TV Title.
@stephen181 Oh I agree. I always though Jeff Jarett was a good mid carder but thats it. I never thought that he should of main evented. When he debut in WCW the day after defendin the IC title and he mentioned that he was in an other company the day before I though he was an idot. I was thinking "Oh yeah didn't you lose your title to a WOMAN the day before?"
Nash wasn't a bad wrestler. He had good matchs with Bret, Shawn, Scott Hall, Undertaker, Owen and Bulldog.
I think he meant in terms of thinking he was a real legend...Sting didnt rate himself in the way others did. History proved Bischoff right, he held himself back by not working for Vince. On the flip side, Sting is one of those more selfless wrestling stories where you know he's done good without needing to be a WWE star
I think because Sting won the title in 1990 so he'd been at the top of the mountain. If they're talking about Sting in the late 90s not giving 100%, i say It's because he was more about putting others over cuz he was already way over with the crowd just for being Sting.
Part 1: people say they beat Goldbereg to early that is not neccersarily ture at Starrcade 1998 they Disco Infrno and Bam Bam Bigallow attack Goldberg and Scott Hall elerticuted him with a Taser Then Kevin Nash hit Goldberg with the Jack Nife and he pinns him and beats him the Jack Nife is Kevin Nash's Finshing move when a wrestlewr hits some one wit there finishing move the crowed go "1 2 3" but the crowed were dead silent because they didnt want kevin Nassh to be the guy to beat Goldberg
Part 2: because Kevin Nas had already been Champion in his WWE carrier but you look at 2 months befor this at Halloween Havoc 1998 DDP vs Goldberg when DDP reversed the Jack Hammer in to the Diamond Cutter then pinned Goldberg the crowed went "1 2 thr-oohh" because DDP hadnt been Champion yet and they wanted him to be champion they didn't end his title rain to earily they just didn't want sameone who had already been champion to beat Goldberg they wanted samthing new like DDP
hear is an example of WCW making a star in 1995 there are 5 top guys in WCW Lex Luger, Macho Man, Sting, Ric Flair and Hulk Hogan and then The Giant (Big Show) Debuts attacks Hulk Hogan so in The Giants first match at Halloween Havoc 1995 he beats Hulk Hogan then on Nitro April 1996 he beats Ric Flair then at Slamboree 1996 he beats Sting then at The Great american Bash 1996 he beats Luger then at Fall Brawl 1996 he beats Macho man that is in 11 months of his carrier Giant was a hugh star in WCW
and in those 11 months he was a 2 time world champion defating Hulk Hogan to win the belt in his first match and beating Ric Flair to win his second but WWE say that WCW couldn't bild him as a Giant but when he debuts in WWE he attacks Austin then he get a match against Austin a couple weeks later and Big Show loses to Austin WCW bilt him as a Giant 100X better then WWE ever did The best think WWE ever did with Big Show is that fude with Undertaker recently when Big Show Knocked out Undertaker
DDP got a raw deal here, sure he was friends with the boss but as far as im concerned he was the hardest working man (and hugely over with the fans) in WCW for several years and deserved a run with the belt.
Complete BS about Sting being uncommitted. Sting IS, WAS, and ALWAYS WILL BE WCW. He tirelessly carried that company. He was the face the of that company. Every time you thought of WCW, Sting would be the first guy you think of. He remained loyal and devoted to WCW, even through all the bad times. Sting - the greatest World Champion of all time!
Vince McMahon Sr. when people speak of him. I only hear great things about him. A very sweet, frank, geniunely nice man. And one of the greatest promoters of the territory days.
from what if read from the book "the Death of WCW" (which is a great read) WCW only put the belt on boooker T because There was a racial discrimination law suit Aginst WCW im not saying he didnt desirved it he worked hard and hes was and still is great proformer but he wasnt over with the crowed and he won after the hole Hogan Controversy so I personally belive That Booker has no right to say that DDP Diamond Dallas Page's rains as Champ were all manufactured
Sting not 100% committed? Are you shitting me? He carried that entire company on his back from the moment he stepped in 87-88 up until he left. He was 1000% committed. And Flair, Sting had his chance to work for WWE but he was smart enough to turn Vince down cause he knew that Vince wouldn't use him the right way. Look at Flair. Sixty years old and wrestling guys like the Great Khali are you kidding me? Sting=best WCW wrestler/champion ever.
yea man that's bullshit about not being committed...these guys get on here and say what they want because the fans clearly know that Sting carried the company
I think that what he was trying to say was that as talented and as great as sting is/was he had the potential to be even greater. If he would have taken than personal extra step foward he would have been the greatest wrestler of all time.
lmao at booker. "all his reigns manufactured" Um buddy, you won the title under the RUSSO era...you werent that over when you won, and ANYBODY you defended the title against, got more pops then you: Jarrett at New blood rising, Nash at fall brawl,then Steiner...Worst wcw champ ever...next ot Arquette.
and now wwe thinks cena can carry the co. bullshit and they're loseing the viewers one by one then there will only be tna nooooooooooo! (i like tna don't read me worng)
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The Great Khali is the man! He is a much better champion then David Arquette, Vince Russo, Jeff Jarrett, Booker T or anyone else who held the belt in 2000-2001
and your dilusional, the samething was said about wcw in the early 90s and what happened it almost put wwf out of business, and lets face it the wwf became #1 again because they started selling sex period the wwf could NEVER compete with wcw on a wrestling level, and oh as for rating wwe is by its self and its getting lower rating than when wcw was around
O.K, I may have the timing wrong but you got to remember Russo who used to work for WWF either was fired or quit & was hired by Bishoff to see if lightning strikes again but it didn't. Instead of doing something new, they were trying to repeat what the WWF was doing & everybody saw through that. When WCW let go Austin, Mick Foley & Vader, Sting sitting on the sideline with that The Crow gimmick, people was tired of that. Having WWF throw aways & not grooming new superstars kick WCW's ass.
The Rock & Stone Cold had better mic skills & charisma than Hogan. That eat your vitamins & pray crap didn't cut it & was too phony. When WCW saw The Rock & Stone Cold plus DX, WCW create NWO & made Hogan a heel. That save his career for awhile. Notice I said for awhile because 3 years later, WCW folded. Hogan wasn't even worth the money. As much as I hate Vince, give him credit, he gave Hogan the spotlight. Vince without Hogan or vice versa is like cornflakes without the milk.
The rock had HORRIBLE mic skills! PLEASE do NOT replace skills with Charisma! The Rock had ALL of his promo's pre written and he studied them. a man with REAL mic skills can talk on the fly, something the rock NEVER did.
I'm sorry Hogan wasn't all that. He was at the right place at the right time. Give credit to Vince McMahon. Hogan isn't all that, if he was, he would have been a movie star like The Rock or the guy that fueded with Hogan, Tony 'Tiny' Lester a.k.a. Zeus. Shit Tiny had a better movie career than Hogan instead of doing a reality show pimping his daughter's wack music. I understand you want to defend Hogan but you can't change my mind.
most wwe commentaries they really shit on the guys that vince has had grudges with but i must admit im surprised how nicely they talk about sting
sting rules b/c he never worked for vince... i have a hard time believing that mcmahon would of treated a wcw guy like sting with the same respect and success in wwf that he gave flair... usually vince shits on the og wcw that came over... and luger
'Hogan the greatest Champion ever'? PLEASE!!! I would give credit to Flair, Race or even VADER but Hulkamania to me destroyed wrestling. I was happy to see someone like Vader, Stone Cold, The Rock, Triple H & Mick Foley that was so opposite than Hogan because they had that attitude instead of Hulkamania bullshit. And notice they skip Vader in this segment. Vader was the best champion WCW ever had since Rhodes, Race & Flair. Vader kept it real. As usual WWE disrespected VADER!
HAHAHAHA!!!! That is the biggest wrestling-related noob comment that I've ever read! I can't believe that some people still believe that bullshit. WCW was Jim Crockett Promotions, a PART of the NWA that owned about 3 promotions within the NWA. The NWA still exists to this day. You should be ashamed of yourself for even making such a comment. That's about as dumb as still thinking the WWE is called the WWF!
INDEED! HOGAN IS GOING TO BE HOGAN BUT HE IS NO STING AND STING IS NO HOGAN... AND I SAY THAT WITH THE MOST RESPECT TO TWO LEGENDS AND BIG NAMES IN THE SPORT. I don't know how you feel but Hogan made ton of money from Sting and Flair...Hogan will go down in histroy for saving the WWF/E but WCW had Flair and Sting and I they were doing fine. Flair was in the mid-card too because of that but because of who he and Sting is it still didn't effect they're legendary status.
hey wheres the commentary for one of wcw s choice champions of all time?you know,the guy from that see spot run movie?lmao!the Rock said it best,the wcw lost meaning!til it came to wwe.
True. Wcw lost its meaning because Time Warner were putting some guys in charge that knew nothing at all. It's funny that the Rock said ... seeing as how he never was in Wcw.. with all respect to the Great One.
The WCW title meant as much to me as a wrestling fan as WWF or ECW title. UNTIL the david arquette incident. But out of all those guys, Sting was my absolute favorite in wcw. Hogan I thought was better in the WWF.
Yeah ... That image is printed in my brain of wrestling... I can't get it out...LOL. I tell you something worse.. when Flair did that ugly cross body block on Windam to win the title at Slamboree.
That's Cool. How would you have felt If Sting (black n'White) tag teamed with Undertaker (Ministry). Two of my all time favorites with Steamboat, Flair, Angle, Austin and others.
Goldberg got over alot but he just could not handle the pressure. He could wrestle to a degree but as you know... when he wrestled against Bret, Sting, Saturn and others... you could see that he could not hang with them. The WWE killed his character... Vince does not like putting over stars that he didn't create.... Sad!
I agree with you to a point. Remember (not that I liked him when he did this) that Flair put over Rico...What! If you can put over a mid-carder than like you said he should have put over Eddie.
As far as Rock vs. Sting...I would go with Sting because he is one of my all time favorites. I like the Rock too. The Rock did things that Sting couldn't do and the same for Sting doing things that The Rock couldn't do. They both are legends and they are one of the biggest names and money draws in their respective era in wrestling. Let me know what you think.
I already knew about Flair and his workings with Crockett... similiar to you I've been into and watching the business for a long time and I can tell that you have a huge amount of knowledge about the business too and I respect that.
i bet you didn't know vince secretly owned wcw and ecw BEFORE 2001 think about it bare guys that he fired when to them and eric bishop pretened to ownwcw but worked for mr. mcmhon himself from wcw to raw same thing with paul heyman acted like he owned ecw but vince did from ecw to smackdown like booker t or rvd they where in wcw and ecw now on wwe i wouldn't be surprised if vince owned tna i mean would you really let a great wrestler like kurt angle go never
During this time many tna's top guys were either not signed or contracts coming up, Jeff knew he wouldn't jump ship to wwe, but he didn't know about everyone else. the last thing he wanted was for a guy to show up on wwe with the world title.
right now the fans go wild for Jarrett, and for the first 3 years of TNA he was like god to those nashville yahoos. last year he did have some "x-pac heat" but that's only because he was doing what was right for tna and making sure the world champ didn't jump to wwe, the only way he could by keeping it for himself.
I undrstand not counting TNA... as you know... the legends that I mentioned previously are the few to hold the WOrld Title atleast 8 times... which now and days are unheard of.
Jeff Jarrett is one of the best of all time, he knows how to wrestle with high impact moves, he can brawl, he can go on the mat and he can get thousands of people either wanting to kill him, or falling in love with him.
ever seen DDP's reviews on lezlove? I'm sure the kids he tutors learn tons with that! LOL As for the moves - it's all in the delivery! And Flair makes it look effortless, even when he is suplexing someone twice his size! Flair isn't mad at Vince for killing WCW or stifling his legacy and the Horsemen legacy - why should Bret be mad for an accident that proved fatal - only because Owen agreed to do for WWF what STING DID SO EFFORTLESSLY -again- for WCW?
do you know how owen died? Owen made 80 foot descent and vince wanted it done faster then sting. so he went and got a quick resease clip, which when tugged on the cord release the harness. but instead of the proper thing he got a $57 boat clip designed to hold up a sail. then the guys who put it together was a cheap guy whose claim ONCE helping set up stings,he was the supervisor. at the end all owen had to do was take a deep breathe and the clip would release
the reasone sting did it so EFFORTLESSLY is because WCW wasn't a bunch of cheap motherfuckers. i don't asume they cut cost on shane's jump off the titan tron at backlash 2001 or when vinces limo exploded he probably wasn't in it, just so they didn't have to stop camera and start it again.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Is that all you have to say you don't want to bash a good man like owen hart or support charles manson (because apparently killing some doesn't make you lose respect for them)?
I've got no respect for Vinnie Mac, man! That little speech by Dusty was such hogwash... At least Flair didn't seem too sad Vinnie Mac's "dead" - whoooooo! The thing with Bret though is this: he called WCW a second-rate show? That second-rate show never had such HORRIBLE security lapses as the "big time" WWF/WWE did... Wrestlers didn't go to sleep never to wake up in the ol' WCW (ok, Renegade was driven to off himself; but that's another story)
And Owen, had he remained in WCW like he was circa 1991, he would have not only lived but he would've also not embarrassed his family's alleged "great tradition" by not wrestling his own brother!
Booker became champion when WCW was already down the toilet. It really isn't his fault that money wasn't drawn, since Booker at no time or another had the show built around him, as the show was always built around Russo, Nash, Jarrett, and Goldberg.
yeah vince would do one of three things:1) make him lose to every jobber he's got to prove wwe is supperior 2) give him some crappy gimmick like an always smiling guy or a superhero 3) what he always does to guys he's got nothing for, give him a crown and call him king sting.
Fuck You Flair! what an asskissing jackass why don't you just blow all the mcmahons on national tv. did anyone see his OTR interview on TSN when he said Bret Hart had no right to be mad at Vince for Owens death, Fuck you Ric, Fuck you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DDP is 100x more talented as you, you 5 move asshole!!!
Well lets count his moves, 1- belly to back suplex 2- vertical suplex 3- figure four 4- knee drop 5- back drop 6-(it's getting hard to think of any more).... that knee to knee move 7- chop block 8-.... that's pretty much it. I agree DDP's a lowlife all he does is spend his time and money to help kids learn to read, Ric has much more class... even though he won't even spend time with his own kids, little own other peoples.
Its funny that Booker said DDp wasnt a good champion. Um buddy, you drew the worst buyrates and ratings in wcw history, you only got the belt because Russo just wanted to give it to you to rub it in hogans face. DDP drew 50x more money then Booker ever dreamed of.
True. I liked the King Booker reign last year. I liked DDP as champ even though FLair didn't. There is not many people that can make as much money as champs then HOgan, Flair, Sting, and Austin. The Rock did too but he wasn't around all the time. Do you agree?
I find the commentaries for the champion something the wwu locker room fighters can learn from hey people check out our youtube we have unique group of wrestlers
The ones that has the most total World Title regins is Hogan (12), Flair (16) but if you count the International title regins in Wcw (19), Sting (12or13) counting NWA,TNA,WCW. and I believe that's it. I know HHH had it (10) and Harley Race (8).
Look at Booker T acting like he's better then Goldberg, Goldberg held the WCW title longer in his one run as champ longer then Booker did his 5 times(not counting the 5 months he didn't wrestle with it)
Yeah and during those 5 times he held it for 134 days (not including the time he had the title and WCW wasn't even holding cards, then he showed up and lost to Kurt Angle) Booker lost it to Vince Russo also. Goldberg held it for 174 days in his first reign and lost because he was attacked by 4 guys and shocked with a stun gun. Goldberg kills little bitches like Booker T's ass.
Hogan arrived in '94. And the funny thing is, about a year later, everybody was booing him because he was so boring. Or maybe they knew what a dick he was backstage.
Lou Thesz deserved to be mentioned. Harley Race wasn't fast,strong, acrobatic, or charismatic. In reality people like Tony Atlas, Andre the Giant and others could beat him. His self disqualifications and his ability to capitalize on an opponents single mistake overcame the talent difference.
Ok PPL. the WCW title IS NOT, I repeat, IS NOT linked to the NWA World Title. The physical belt IS NOT a title, it simply represents it. WCW dropped out of NWA and naimed their own champion. Therefore the WCW title Started in 1991, PERIOD.
people dont understand how extremely complex the history of the relationship between NWA and WCW is, and how complex the sucession of WCW from NWA is. It's easier for most people to just say "the NWA World Title became the WCW World Title" or "Ted Turner bought NWA and renamed it WCW". Its way more complicated than that. Do your research people (Wikipedia is a great site).
Sting doesnt need to come to WWE. He never will need to come to WWE. WWE is a crap load of garbage now, without any respect for "wrestling". The Hall Of Fame, and any type of nostalgia they use these days, are only smokescreens. If you are a wrestling fan, you watch more than WWE, and TNA. But I will tell you, Sting won't go knocking on Vince's door, Vince will come knocking on Sting's door. Vince knows he cant get away with ANOTHER smeer campaign. Thats why he gave up the smeer on Bret Hard
Having great technical ability in the ring like Bret Hart is nice and all, but pro wrestling is much more about entertainment than technical ability. It's not a coincidence that the WWE was tanking in the mid 90s with Hart as the top guy and making money hand over fist in the 80s and late 90s when Hogan, Stone Cold, and Rock were the main attractions.
Flair does not like Hogan on a personal level and he does agree that Hogan had very little technical wrestling talent, but he has also repeatedly stated that Hogan is the best ever in the business because of his ability to be an entertainer and draw fans.
What's interesting about that is that Flair has very litle technical ability himself. Has Flair had great matches? Yes, he has. But never great technical wrestling matches a la Beniot, Malenko, Al Snow, Regal, and so forth. Flair is a showman with little technical skill.
Flair i think was one of the worst technical wreslters ever to win the belt. If i was best friends with the bookers i'd be 50 time champ too. Guys like Booker T, Malenko, Benoit and the Steiners busted their asses for years behind guys like Flair and Hogan. Those two refused to pass the torch or let anyone else get any credit for anything.
Flair does like Hogan on a personal level. They arent best friends, but they are friends. Flair said it himself on Off the Record when asked if he likes Hogan.
While this is probably true, DDP was the epitome of cool. Hell, he was the People's Champion before The Rock was. DDP and the 90s went hand in hand (OK, so he did rip off Nirvana). Keep in mind DDP didn't get into wrestling until his 30s and didn't win his first title until after 35 or so. DDP was a good, entertaining wrestler and cut good promos. Very underutilized.
My Brother is the spitting image of Eric Bishoff seriously if i get video of him on youtube, i'll show you guys, BTW RIP WCW one of the greatest wrestling promotions in history.
Even Flair agrees that Hogan is the greatest of all time. What is the point arguing about it if Flair himself says the same thing. Hogan revolutionized pro wrestling not only once, but twice when he turned heel and became Hollywood. Who else can claim they did that? Not even Flair can say that.
he was the first wrestler to ever hold the championship for a 3 year course, he gave the fans wot they wanted and he was the best known icon that the company thought he could handle. he is the greatest, that is a fact...brother :D
This is the wwf changing wrestling history again. This is propaganda for Vince jr. If you read the book "Choke Hold" you'll see why Vince Sr was still in the NWA. He never left. The NWA and wwf Champion met 3 times.
Jim Wilson's book tells it all. Chokehold is the real history book for pro wrestling.
JCP was a financial wreck because the crockets suck at business... Flair and Duh-sty still braught in the ratings,video sales, closed circuit tv buys, and put asses in the seats... See the first two bash tours for proof...
See ANY main event Flair headlined in any territory in the early 80s... Saint Louis against Brody drew 20,000... Parade of champions in texas drew 43,000! And that was WITHOUT the wwf pr machine or pandering to kids... Turner baught it and didn't do anything with it until nitro...
I meant JCP in last post. Anyway, I agree with you about Hogan in '94 and '95. Thats the only thing he was good at was bringing in money. But hell he couldn't wrestle worth crap. My Grandma could do a better leg drop than he could. Bottom line, Flair and the Horsemen were the greatest performers and wrestlers of all time!!
In this farcical business that is rasssslin, you have to be a little bit two-faced. The only piece of shit in the video though is Bischoff. If Vinnie Mac had shown his face when his daddy was mentioned, that would have made it 2.
WWE did a piece on the NWA World Heavyweight championship -- a title which is currently owned by TNA up until 2014. They also mixed up the histoy of the NWA World Heavyweight title (which ended it's association with NWA/WCW when Shane Douglas won it in 1994) and the NWA/WCW World title -- a different title which dates back to 1991. I'm sure they were pretending that their WWE World Heavyweight title was what they were talking about -- but that title's history only dates back to 2002.
First of all, I don't know what possessed u idiots of dissing the nature boy like that. If u really think about it, both Sting and Flair worked extra hard to keep WCW running up until its downfall. I think Sting and Flair are the two greatest wreslters of all time in WCW. He didn't criticize anybody EXCEPT Jim Herd and the people who wanted him to change. Oh and dogfan4lyfe, get your facts right watch his DVD so you won't say anymore bullshit.
Shut your hole, puke. Everything I said is true. I have already watched that kiss-asses' dvd and it proved nothing except what a two-faced lying piece of shit hypocrite Dick Flair really is.
I gotta disagree with Nature Boy on this one.Hulk Hogan was NOT,and IS NOT one of the greatest champions ever.Hogan is a product of professional wrestling promoters wanting him as champion.He was,and is,a GIMMICK.The wrestling fans loved Hogan because the promoters shoved him down their throats.As my boy Shane Douglas would say,"you are a character from the 80's,you sucked then and you suck now" .C'mon Ric take credit where credit is due.You are and always will be the greatest champion EVER.
samr336 1 year ago
Ric Flair was out of his mind when he said he was sad that Sting never worked for Vince McMahon. Not lowering himself to the WWE level is what made Sting a strong champion and one of the greatest champions ever. He had a good explanation of why he didn't go to WWE, and I'm 100% sure he made the right choice.
spinemelter2000 1 year ago
When Crockett bought up all the other NWA territories,the days of the traveling World Champion was over and Ric Flair was the Champion of the era.These other guys that captured the belt during WCW time period can't compare to the true old glory days of the old NWA World Heavyweight Champion because that guy went all over the world territory by territory.The World Title of today is nothing more than a TV Title.
mightyblack1 2 years ago 2
great video
dada8181 2 years ago
What about Bret Hart?
spernoadversa 2 years ago
Who's that some Mid Carder?
MrPezzzz 2 years ago
@MrPezzzz Which one are you talking about
ecwecwecw1 1 year ago
With Luger, Nash, Vicious, Jarrett, Arquette, Russo and Steiner all making it to be WCW Champion it wasn't quite as rosy as this video makes out.
Bischoff is so smarmy and arrogant - if Sting wasn't committed to WCW why did he work their from it's inception to it's closure?
stephen181 2 years ago
What's wrong with Nash and Jarrett?
skull902 2 years ago
Jarrett is mid card material nothing more, look at where he was booked on the card when he either 1) Didn't own the company
2) Wasn't best friends with the booker (Russo in WCW wanted Jarrett to beat Flairs number of title reigns).
Nash is a horrible wrestler, funny dude tho
stephen181 2 years ago
Well...considering the amount of times that title changed hands in the year 2000...
Wich makes him awesome.
skull902 2 years ago
@stephen181 Oh I agree. I always though Jeff Jarett was a good mid carder but thats it. I never thought that he should of main evented. When he debut in WCW the day after defendin the IC title and he mentioned that he was in an other company the day before I though he was an idot. I was thinking "Oh yeah didn't you lose your title to a WOMAN the day before?"
Nash wasn't a bad wrestler. He had good matchs with Bret, Shawn, Scott Hall, Undertaker, Owen and Bulldog.
ecwecwecw1 1 year ago
I think he meant in terms of thinking he was a real legend...Sting didnt rate himself in the way others did. History proved Bischoff right, he held himself back by not working for Vince. On the flip side, Sting is one of those more selfless wrestling stories where you know he's done good without needing to be a WWE star
heyarnoldsknee 2 years ago
I think because Sting won the title in 1990 so he'd been at the top of the mountain. If they're talking about Sting in the late 90s not giving 100%, i say It's because he was more about putting others over cuz he was already way over with the crowd just for being Sting.
matt4lyfe 1 year ago
This was a great segment. What show did this air on??
xobrentox 2 years ago
WWE Confidential, it's available on DVD. They did various topics like the downfall of WCW and wrestler biographies.
stephen181 2 years ago
Awesome! Thank you for the info!
xobrentox 2 years ago
This was on WWE confidential back in late 2002.
SylentEcho 2 years ago
ddp's reign was manufatured? hey book Page got the belt to late he deserved it in 97-98 he was over more than Luger was in 96-97.
MBK2K 3 years ago
Part 1: people say they beat Goldbereg to early that is not neccersarily ture at Starrcade 1998 they Disco Infrno and Bam Bam Bigallow attack Goldberg and Scott Hall elerticuted him with a Taser Then Kevin Nash hit Goldberg with the Jack Nife and he pinns him and beats him the Jack Nife is Kevin Nash's Finshing move when a wrestlewr hits some one wit there finishing move the crowed go "1 2 3" but the crowed were dead silent because they didnt want kevin Nassh to be the guy to beat Goldberg
ecwecwecw1 3 years ago
Part 2: because Kevin Nas had already been Champion in his WWE carrier but you look at 2 months befor this at Halloween Havoc 1998 DDP vs Goldberg when DDP reversed the Jack Hammer in to the Diamond Cutter then pinned Goldberg the crowed went "1 2 thr-oohh" because DDP hadnt been Champion yet and they wanted him to be champion they didn't end his title rain to earily they just didn't want sameone who had already been champion to beat Goldberg they wanted samthing new like DDP
ecwecwecw1 3 years ago
and maybe wcw would have been more competive with the wwf in the later years if ddp and other younger new talent got pushed
prstn 3 years ago
I agree.
ecwecwecw1 3 years ago
hear is an example of WCW making a star in 1995 there are 5 top guys in WCW Lex Luger, Macho Man, Sting, Ric Flair and Hulk Hogan and then The Giant (Big Show) Debuts attacks Hulk Hogan so in The Giants first match at Halloween Havoc 1995 he beats Hulk Hogan then on Nitro April 1996 he beats Ric Flair then at Slamboree 1996 he beats Sting then at The Great american Bash 1996 he beats Luger then at Fall Brawl 1996 he beats Macho man that is in 11 months of his carrier Giant was a hugh star in WCW
ecwecwecw1 3 years ago
and in those 11 months he was a 2 time world champion defating Hulk Hogan to win the belt in his first match and beating Ric Flair to win his second but WWE say that WCW couldn't bild him as a Giant but when he debuts in WWE he attacks Austin then he get a match against Austin a couple weeks later and Big Show loses to Austin WCW bilt him as a Giant 100X better then WWE ever did The best think WWE ever did with Big Show is that fude with Undertaker recently when Big Show Knocked out Undertaker
ecwecwecw1 3 years ago
DDP got a raw deal here, sure he was friends with the boss but as far as im concerned he was the hardest working man (and hugely over with the fans) in WCW for several years and deserved a run with the belt.
blackelvis70 3 years ago
it is so strange that they say DDP only got to his possion because he was friends with Eric yet look at triple H
ecwecwecw1 3 years ago
sting is 1 of the most under rated wrestlers ever wcws greatest champ ever
mckearney111 3 years ago 5
WCW was NOT the NWA title, no if ands or butts about it.
WCW World championship has a different lineage than NWA World championship.
Rcksaltnnails 3 years ago 3
they just join at one point wwe is allways rewriteing wrestling history
prstn 3 years ago
Heyman was brought in as an annoucer 1 month before ECW offfically went out of business. Heyman was brought in as a GM much later then that.
54spiritedwill54 3 years ago
Complete BS about Sting being uncommitted. Sting IS, WAS, and ALWAYS WILL BE WCW. He tirelessly carried that company. He was the face the of that company. Every time you thought of WCW, Sting would be the first guy you think of. He remained loyal and devoted to WCW, even through all the bad times. Sting - the greatest World Champion of all time!
jsadighi 3 years ago 4
actually when i thought of wcw i thought of goldberg
terromus 3 years ago
Vince McMahon Sr. when people speak of him. I only hear great things about him. A very sweet, frank, geniunely nice man. And one of the greatest promoters of the territory days.
Sweetguy9009 3 years ago
from what if read from the book "the Death of WCW" (which is a great read) WCW only put the belt on boooker T because There was a racial discrimination law suit Aginst WCW im not saying he didnt desirved it he worked hard and hes was and still is great proformer but he wasnt over with the crowed and he won after the hole Hogan Controversy so I personally belive That Booker has no right to say that DDP Diamond Dallas Page's rains as Champ were all manufactured
ecwecwecw1 3 years ago 6
I find it weird that WCW put the world strap on a African American wrestler before WWF/e did.With the whole North/South propaganda.
wherethepowerlies 3 years ago
and yet they are the ones getting suded for racial discrimination
ecwecwecw1 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
DDP was so awful!
MMMBloat 3 years ago
no he wasnt he was the first peoples champion
ecwecwecw1 3 years ago
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best champs in my mind.
5. Dusty Rhoads
4. bruno sammartino
3. flair
2. hogan
1. Austin
fridogg 3 years ago
booker deserved the damn title reigns he worked hard there for years and hes damn good on the stick and in the ring
beantna 4 years ago 5
Sting not 100% committed? Are you shitting me? He carried that entire company on his back from the moment he stepped in 87-88 up until he left. He was 1000% committed. And Flair, Sting had his chance to work for WWE but he was smart enough to turn Vince down cause he knew that Vince wouldn't use him the right way. Look at Flair. Sixty years old and wrestling guys like the Great Khali are you kidding me? Sting=best WCW wrestler/champion ever.
ACDCfreak50 4 years ago 15
yea man that's bullshit about not being committed...these guys get on here and say what they want because the fans clearly know that Sting carried the company
mattpg22 4 years ago 4
I think that what he was trying to say was that as talented and as great as sting is/was he had the potential to be even greater. If he would have taken than personal extra step foward he would have been the greatest wrestler of all time.
mexxa84 4 years ago
lmao at booker. "all his reigns manufactured" Um buddy, you won the title under the RUSSO era...you werent that over when you won, and ANYBODY you defended the title against, got more pops then you: Jarrett at New blood rising, Nash at fall brawl,then Steiner...Worst wcw champ ever...next ot Arquette.
leftyoublueandblack 4 years ago
Sting, Goldberg and DDP all got digs on their...its such BS.
leftyoublueandblack 4 years ago 4
Sting is the greatest ever. Period.
ACDCfreak50 4 years ago 6
and now wwe thinks cena can carry the co. bullshit and they're loseing the viewers one by one then there will only be tna nooooooooooo! (i like tna don't read me worng)
smilinbob1234 4 years ago
Sickening to see that the physical title that was being held by Hogan, Nash, DDP, Sting, Flair, and Booker is now being held by The "Great" Khali.
korbaz21 4 years ago
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The Great Khali is the man! He is a much better champion then David Arquette, Vince Russo, Jeff Jarrett, Booker T or anyone else who held the belt in 2000-2001
krazyeman 4 years ago
Actually i'd rather see Arquette win the belt again over Khali or f'ing Horswaggle any day.
TNA4EVER13 4 years ago 6
To be fair, Hornswoggle gets a helluva better reaction coming out then any cruiserweight not named Rey Mysterio.
krazyeman 4 years ago
a good point they have great wrestlers but how do you top stone cold, the rock, dx,wrestlemania 15 how are you gonna top that
joec470 4 years ago
and your dilusional, the samething was said about wcw in the early 90s and what happened it almost put wwf out of business, and lets face it the wwf became #1 again because they started selling sex period the wwf could NEVER compete with wcw on a wrestling level, and oh as for rating wwe is by its self and its getting lower rating than when wcw was around
nwauwf 4 years ago
O.K, I may have the timing wrong but you got to remember Russo who used to work for WWF either was fired or quit & was hired by Bishoff to see if lightning strikes again but it didn't. Instead of doing something new, they were trying to repeat what the WWF was doing & everybody saw through that. When WCW let go Austin, Mick Foley & Vader, Sting sitting on the sideline with that The Crow gimmick, people was tired of that. Having WWF throw aways & not grooming new superstars kick WCW's ass.
blachubear 4 years ago
The Rock & Stone Cold had better mic skills & charisma than Hogan. That eat your vitamins & pray crap didn't cut it & was too phony. When WCW saw The Rock & Stone Cold plus DX, WCW create NWO & made Hogan a heel. That save his career for awhile. Notice I said for awhile because 3 years later, WCW folded. Hogan wasn't even worth the money. As much as I hate Vince, give him credit, he gave Hogan the spotlight. Vince without Hogan or vice versa is like cornflakes without the milk.
blachubear 4 years ago
The rock had HORRIBLE mic skills! PLEASE do NOT replace skills with Charisma! The Rock had ALL of his promo's pre written and he studied them. a man with REAL mic skills can talk on the fly, something the rock NEVER did.
HUGE Charisma, YES. Mic Skills, NOPE!
Rcksaltnnails 3 years ago 5
woah nwo and hogans heel turn was like 3 years befor austin rock and dx dude and that was bout 4 years b4 wcw folded ur way off on timeing
prstn 3 years ago
I'm sorry Hogan wasn't all that. He was at the right place at the right time. Give credit to Vince McMahon. Hogan isn't all that, if he was, he would have been a movie star like The Rock or the guy that fueded with Hogan, Tony 'Tiny' Lester a.k.a. Zeus. Shit Tiny had a better movie career than Hogan instead of doing a reality show pimping his daughter's wack music. I understand you want to defend Hogan but you can't change my mind.
blachubear 4 years ago
most wwe commentaries they really shit on the guys that vince has had grudges with but i must admit im surprised how nicely they talk about sting
sting rules b/c he never worked for vince... i have a hard time believing that mcmahon would of treated a wcw guy like sting with the same respect and success in wwf that he gave flair... usually vince shits on the og wcw that came over... and luger
12TNAbuDDay18 4 years ago
hogan was only champ b/c he was hogan
in a wrestling aspect he wouldnt even be top ten
his reigns sucked
flair
race
vader
sting
waaaaay better champs knew how to job out too
12TNAbuDDay18 4 years ago
Hogan was the biggest champion due to his fame and that's it.
BlackProductions 4 years ago
For Flair to say that Hogan will go down as the greatest Champion of all time is HUGE!
killercomet306 4 years ago
'Hogan the greatest Champion ever'? PLEASE!!! I would give credit to Flair, Race or even VADER but Hulkamania to me destroyed wrestling. I was happy to see someone like Vader, Stone Cold, The Rock, Triple H & Mick Foley that was so opposite than Hogan because they had that attitude instead of Hulkamania bullshit. And notice they skip Vader in this segment. Vader was the best champion WCW ever had since Rhodes, Race & Flair. Vader kept it real. As usual WWE disrespected VADER!
blachubear 4 years ago
Seriously Ted Turner bought a NWA promotion and it became WCW. NWA at that time period like Shane Douglas had said "died".
BlackProductions 4 years ago
It's sad how even at that time, WCW/WWF was trying to lie and say that the WCW is the NWA title.
SRChameleon 4 years ago
WCW was NWA before Ted Turner bought it.
BlackProductions 4 years ago
HAHAHAHA!!!! That is the biggest wrestling-related noob comment that I've ever read! I can't believe that some people still believe that bullshit. WCW was Jim Crockett Promotions, a PART of the NWA that owned about 3 promotions within the NWA. The NWA still exists to this day. You should be ashamed of yourself for even making such a comment. That's about as dumb as still thinking the WWE is called the WWF!
SRChameleon 4 years ago
INDEED! HOGAN IS GOING TO BE HOGAN BUT HE IS NO STING AND STING IS NO HOGAN... AND I SAY THAT WITH THE MOST RESPECT TO TWO LEGENDS AND BIG NAMES IN THE SPORT. I don't know how you feel but Hogan made ton of money from Sting and Flair...Hogan will go down in histroy for saving the WWF/E but WCW had Flair and Sting and I they were doing fine. Flair was in the mid-card too because of that but because of who he and Sting is it still didn't effect they're legendary status.
Evanprout84 4 years ago
hey wheres the commentary for one of wcw s choice champions of all time?you know,the guy from that see spot run movie?lmao!the Rock said it best,the wcw lost meaning!til it came to wwe.
poopsyko 4 years ago
True. Wcw lost its meaning because Time Warner were putting some guys in charge that knew nothing at all. It's funny that the Rock said ... seeing as how he never was in Wcw.. with all respect to the Great One.
Evanprout84 4 years ago
The WCW title meant as much to me as a wrestling fan as WWF or ECW title. UNTIL the david arquette incident. But out of all those guys, Sting was my absolute favorite in wcw. Hogan I thought was better in the WWF.
cdowg187 4 years ago
yeah... like he did in Wcw.
Evanprout84 4 years ago
Yeah ... That image is printed in my brain of wrestling... I can't get it out...LOL. I tell you something worse.. when Flair did that ugly cross body block on Windam to win the title at Slamboree.
Evanprout84 4 years ago
That's Cool. How would you have felt If Sting (black n'White) tag teamed with Undertaker (Ministry). Two of my all time favorites with Steamboat, Flair, Angle, Austin and others.
Evanprout84 4 years ago
Goldberg got over alot but he just could not handle the pressure. He could wrestle to a degree but as you know... when he wrestled against Bret, Sting, Saturn and others... you could see that he could not hang with them. The WWE killed his character... Vince does not like putting over stars that he didn't create.... Sad!
Evanprout84 4 years ago
I agree with you to a point. Remember (not that I liked him when he did this) that Flair put over Rico...What! If you can put over a mid-carder than like you said he should have put over Eddie.
Evanprout84 4 years ago
As far as Rock vs. Sting...I would go with Sting because he is one of my all time favorites. I like the Rock too. The Rock did things that Sting couldn't do and the same for Sting doing things that The Rock couldn't do. They both are legends and they are one of the biggest names and money draws in their respective era in wrestling. Let me know what you think.
Evanprout84 4 years ago
I already knew about Flair and his workings with Crockett... similiar to you I've been into and watching the business for a long time and I can tell that you have a huge amount of knowledge about the business too and I respect that.
Evanprout84 4 years ago
but that title is reconized as a seperate lineage, it just has the same big gold belt.
ultimatedude1 4 years ago
actually if you count all the times flair lost the title and got it back over seas, he is like a 20 time champ.
ultimatedude1 4 years ago
but vince russo said that wasnt a title change and jarrett was still champion. so its 6 wwe 6 wcw 2 awa.
ultimatedude1 4 years ago
Heyman was brought in as an annoucer 1 month before ECW offfically went out of business. Heyman was brought in as a GM much later then that.
newbington 4 years ago
i bet you didn't know vince secretly owned wcw and ecw BEFORE 2001 think about it bare guys that he fired when to them and eric bishop pretened to ownwcw but worked for mr. mcmhon himself from wcw to raw same thing with paul heyman acted like he owned ecw but vince did from ecw to smackdown like booker t or rvd they where in wcw and ecw now on wwe i wouldn't be surprised if vince owned tna i mean would you really let a great wrestler like kurt angle go never
indisputed 4 years ago
WCW was owned by Ted Turner and the only reason Eric and Heyman were brought to WWE is because ratings were low and they needed new faces.
newbington 4 years ago
who is booker t to say anything about some ones title reign.he brought the naacp to scare wcw into giving him a push.plus where and when did he draw
SOLOMONPHIL 4 years ago
excatly! thank you
newbington 4 years ago
i still think sting should have gone to the wwf/e
joec470 4 years ago
Sting doesn't
mangamegs 4 years ago
yes but tna's champ leaving would hurt them and tell fans wwe is the place to be. and wwe could use the title for an nwa storyline.
newbington 4 years ago
During this time many tna's top guys were either not signed or contracts coming up, Jeff knew he wouldn't jump ship to wwe, but he didn't know about everyone else. the last thing he wanted was for a guy to show up on wwe with the world title.
newbington 4 years ago
hey tna is now recognized world championship status by pwi and they are the sports top experts.
newbington 4 years ago
right now the fans go wild for Jarrett, and for the first 3 years of TNA he was like god to those nashville yahoos. last year he did have some "x-pac heat" but that's only because he was doing what was right for tna and making sure the world champ didn't jump to wwe, the only way he could by keeping it for himself.
newbington 4 years ago
What did you mean by that?
Evanprout84 4 years ago
I undrstand not counting TNA... as you know... the legends that I mentioned previously are the few to hold the WOrld Title atleast 8 times... which now and days are unheard of.
Evanprout84 4 years ago
Jeff Jarrett is one of the best of all time, he knows how to wrestle with high impact moves, he can brawl, he can go on the mat and he can get thousands of people either wanting to kill him, or falling in love with him.
newbington 4 years ago
okay, 15 moves, wow, they are moves that any wrestling school drop out has mastered.
newbington 4 years ago
ever seen DDP's reviews on lezlove? I'm sure the kids he tutors learn tons with that! LOL As for the moves - it's all in the delivery! And Flair makes it look effortless, even when he is suplexing someone twice his size! Flair isn't mad at Vince for killing WCW or stifling his legacy and the Horsemen legacy - why should Bret be mad for an accident that proved fatal - only because Owen agreed to do for WWF what STING DID SO EFFORTLESSLY -again- for WCW?
ladsk 4 years ago
do you know how owen died? Owen made 80 foot descent and vince wanted it done faster then sting. so he went and got a quick resease clip, which when tugged on the cord release the harness. but instead of the proper thing he got a $57 boat clip designed to hold up a sail. then the guys who put it together was a cheap guy whose claim ONCE helping set up stings,he was the supervisor. at the end all owen had to do was take a deep breathe and the clip would release
newbington 4 years ago
the reasone sting did it so EFFORTLESSLY is because WCW wasn't a bunch of cheap motherfuckers. i don't asume they cut cost on shane's jump off the titan tron at backlash 2001 or when vinces limo exploded he probably wasn't in it, just so they didn't have to stop camera and start it again.
newbington 4 years ago
he wasn't in it?!? Damn - you've dashed my hopes big time now!!! :(
ladsk 4 years ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Is that all you have to say you don't want to bash a good man like owen hart or support charles manson (because apparently killing some doesn't make you lose respect for them)?
newbington 4 years ago
I've got no respect for Vinnie Mac, man! That little speech by Dusty was such hogwash... At least Flair didn't seem too sad Vinnie Mac's "dead" - whoooooo! The thing with Bret though is this: he called WCW a second-rate show? That second-rate show never had such HORRIBLE security lapses as the "big time" WWF/WWE did... Wrestlers didn't go to sleep never to wake up in the ol' WCW (ok, Renegade was driven to off himself; but that's another story)
ladsk 4 years ago
And Owen, had he remained in WCW like he was circa 1991, he would have not only lived but he would've also not embarrassed his family's alleged "great tradition" by not wrestling his own brother!
ladsk 4 years ago
AND, maybe, just maybe, if Owen had stuck around he would have won a world title and been a much better one-time WCW champ than Bret was!!!
ladsk 4 years ago
I'll agree with you there
newbington 4 years ago
Booker became champion when WCW was already down the toilet. It really isn't his fault that money wasn't drawn, since Booker at no time or another had the show built around him, as the show was always built around Russo, Nash, Jarrett, and Goldberg.
kevinisnumber1 4 years ago
i agree with flair on sting he should go to the wwe vince would know exactly what to do with him
joec470 4 years ago
yeah vince would do one of three things:1) make him lose to every jobber he's got to prove wwe is supperior 2) give him some crappy gimmick like an always smiling guy or a superhero 3) what he always does to guys he's got nothing for, give him a crown and call him king sting.
newbington 4 years ago
Fuck You Flair! what an asskissing jackass why don't you just blow all the mcmahons on national tv. did anyone see his OTR interview on TSN when he said Bret Hart had no right to be mad at Vince for Owens death, Fuck you Ric, Fuck you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DDP is 100x more talented as you, you 5 move asshole!!!
newbington 4 years ago
No way that FLAIR knows only FIVE moves - NO FREAKING WAY! And DDP is a lowlife bum; Flair has class.
ladsk 4 years ago
Well lets count his moves, 1- belly to back suplex 2- vertical suplex 3- figure four 4- knee drop 5- back drop 6-(it's getting hard to think of any more).... that knee to knee move 7- chop block 8-.... that's pretty much it. I agree DDP's a lowlife all he does is spend his time and money to help kids learn to read, Ric has much more class... even though he won't even spend time with his own kids, little own other peoples.
newbington 4 years ago
Let me know if you agree. Top Represenatives for each company... NWA= Ric Flair, WCW= Sting, WWF= Undertaker, WWE=?
Evanprout84 4 years ago
Who?... John Cena?! Hogan did have but two (boot/leg drop) and if you count the Axe Bomber when he was in Japan.
Evanprout84 4 years ago
Its funny that Booker said DDp wasnt a good champion. Um buddy, you drew the worst buyrates and ratings in wcw history, you only got the belt because Russo just wanted to give it to you to rub it in hogans face. DDP drew 50x more money then Booker ever dreamed of.
leftyoublueandblack 4 years ago
True. I liked the King Booker reign last year. I liked DDP as champ even though FLair didn't. There is not many people that can make as much money as champs then HOgan, Flair, Sting, and Austin. The Rock did too but he wasn't around all the time. Do you agree?
Evanprout84 4 years ago
That too. Both from Texas.
Urvy1A 4 years ago
I find the commentaries for the champion something the wwu locker room fighters can learn from hey people check out our youtube we have unique group of wrestlers
Calypsospear 4 years ago
Hogan was awesome he is a 12 time World Champion with the WWE and WCW.
BigD1293 4 years ago
The ones that has the most total World Title regins is Hogan (12), Flair (16) but if you count the International title regins in Wcw (19), Sting (12or13) counting NWA,TNA,WCW. and I believe that's it. I know HHH had it (10) and Harley Race (8).
Evanprout84 4 years ago
Look at Booker T acting like he's better then Goldberg, Goldberg held the WCW title longer in his one run as champ longer then Booker did his 5 times(not counting the 5 months he didn't wrestle with it)
newbington 4 years ago
Yeah, Booker T held that title 5 times though which makes him better.
BigD1293 4 years ago
Yeah and during those 5 times he held it for 134 days (not including the time he had the title and WCW wasn't even holding cards, then he showed up and lost to Kurt Angle) Booker lost it to Vince Russo also. Goldberg held it for 174 days in his first reign and lost because he was attacked by 4 guys and shocked with a stun gun. Goldberg kills little bitches like Booker T's ass.
newbington 4 years ago
Hogan arrived in '94. And the funny thing is, about a year later, everybody was booing him because he was so boring. Or maybe they knew what a dick he was backstage.
JIFTheChosen1 4 years ago
The NWa title is not related to the WCw title.
kevinhardy 4 years ago
Yes it is, It was the WCW title until WCW broke away from NWA.
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bullyjoey 4 years ago
Edge is the new World Heavyweight Champion
realmusicyeah 4 years ago
Fuck Edge...
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AFBN 4 years ago
Sting sucks! He can't wrestle! He was only made famous becaus eo that face paint. Overall he sucks and shoulda never won a world championship.
vivilakers 4 years ago
Lou Thesz deserved to be mentioned. Harley Race wasn't fast,strong, acrobatic, or charismatic. In reality people like Tony Atlas, Andre the Giant and others could beat him. His self disqualifications and his ability to capitalize on an opponents single mistake overcame the talent difference.
micksstarr 4 years ago
Ok PPL. the WCW title IS NOT, I repeat, IS NOT linked to the NWA World Title. The physical belt IS NOT a title, it simply represents it. WCW dropped out of NWA and naimed their own champion. Therefore the WCW title Started in 1991, PERIOD.
love2lickabbw 4 years ago
its about damn time someone said that!
people dont understand how extremely complex the history of the relationship between NWA and WCW is, and how complex the sucession of WCW from NWA is. It's easier for most people to just say "the NWA World Title became the WCW World Title" or "Ted Turner bought NWA and renamed it WCW". Its way more complicated than that. Do your research people (Wikipedia is a great site).
kudos to you love2lickabbw!
bumper11002 4 years ago
i regard the wcw title as the real worlds title belt.
ziggs111 4 years ago
sting is washed up and was made in 1988 by ric flair bascially if it wasnt for flair there would bascially be no sting.
Freebird79 4 years ago
Sting doesnt need to come to WWE. He never will need to come to WWE. WWE is a crap load of garbage now, without any respect for "wrestling". The Hall Of Fame, and any type of nostalgia they use these days, are only smokescreens. If you are a wrestling fan, you watch more than WWE, and TNA. But I will tell you, Sting won't go knocking on Vince's door, Vince will come knocking on Sting's door. Vince knows he cant get away with ANOTHER smeer campaign. Thats why he gave up the smeer on Bret Hard
gocatsgo82 4 years ago
The Stinger was my fav wrestler i wish he would come to wwe to show them how its done
sesshosama 4 years ago
Having great technical ability in the ring like Bret Hart is nice and all, but pro wrestling is much more about entertainment than technical ability. It's not a coincidence that the WWE was tanking in the mid 90s with Hart as the top guy and making money hand over fist in the 80s and late 90s when Hogan, Stone Cold, and Rock were the main attractions.
roymunson 4 years ago
Flair does not like Hogan on a personal level and he does agree that Hogan had very little technical wrestling talent, but he has also repeatedly stated that Hogan is the best ever in the business because of his ability to be an entertainer and draw fans.
roymunson 4 years ago
What's interesting about that is that Flair has very litle technical ability himself. Has Flair had great matches? Yes, he has. But never great technical wrestling matches a la Beniot, Malenko, Al Snow, Regal, and so forth. Flair is a showman with little technical skill.
dogfan4lyfe 4 years ago
Flair i think was one of the worst technical wreslters ever to win the belt. If i was best friends with the bookers i'd be 50 time champ too. Guys like Booker T, Malenko, Benoit and the Steiners busted their asses for years behind guys like Flair and Hogan. Those two refused to pass the torch or let anyone else get any credit for anything.
blacksocko 4 years ago
In other words, his ability to be a pro wrestler.
Honkyrappa 4 years ago
Flair does like Hogan on a personal level. They arent best friends, but they are friends. Flair said it himself on Off the Record when asked if he likes Hogan.
chrispaulpage 4 years ago
Yeah, but you're also talking about Ric Flair. Whenever someone who knows him talks about him, you're bound to hear the words "two-faced."
dogfan4lyfe 4 years ago
Sting is THE man. booker t, goldberg, austin, the rock were never as popular as him. even when he turned heel with luger pple still cheered him.
maypaxvobiscum 4 years ago
why are they ripping on DDP? morons.
sonofsarek 4 years ago
Because a lot of people think the only reason he succeeded was because he was good friends with Uncle Eric.
dogfan4lyfe 4 years ago
While this is probably true, DDP was the epitome of cool. Hell, he was the People's Champion before The Rock was. DDP and the 90s went hand in hand (OK, so he did rip off Nirvana). Keep in mind DDP didn't get into wrestling until his 30s and didn't win his first title until after 35 or so. DDP was a good, entertaining wrestler and cut good promos. Very underutilized.
JIFTheChosen1 4 years ago
100% agreed
ecwecwecw1 3 years ago
My Brother is the spitting image of Eric Bishoff seriously if i get video of him on youtube, i'll show you guys, BTW RIP WCW one of the greatest wrestling promotions in history.
NapalmWeed 4 years ago
DuhUhUhUh you're stoopid
Is that all you got? Anything Flair says these days is questionable since it's been well documented that he's getting a tad crazy...kinda like Vince.
60BloodyChamp60 4 years ago
Flair may be crazy BUT he is an incredible historian and very very truthful just read his book
theguyjames 4 years ago
its not real, dont take it too serious
aligwannabe1 4 years ago
Ric Flair in this video said Hulk Hogan was the greatest champion of all time, so you should really have watched it.
GilbeRRRt 4 years ago
DDP was no doubt the most underused WCW Wrestler that went to WWE.
wherethepowerlies 4 years ago
Diamond Dallas Page has the greatest moves,the greatest style,the greatest song,the greatest gimmick of all the WCW world heavyweit champions.
And...yes WWE sucks.
BOUDERSAMAD 4 years ago
Even Flair agrees that Hogan is the greatest of all time. What is the point arguing about it if Flair himself says the same thing. Hogan revolutionized pro wrestling not only once, but twice when he turned heel and became Hollywood. Who else can claim they did that? Not even Flair can say that.
SatansRealm 4 years ago
he was the first wrestler to ever hold the championship for a 3 year course, he gave the fans wot they wanted and he was the best known icon that the company thought he could handle. he is the greatest, that is a fact...brother :D
hollywoodhogan311 4 years ago
Bruno Sammartino had two reigns of over 3 years before Hogan's
Nightmarenorman 4 years ago
This is the wwf changing wrestling history again. This is propaganda for Vince jr. If you read the book "Choke Hold" you'll see why Vince Sr was still in the NWA. He never left. The NWA and wwf Champion met 3 times.
Jim Wilson's book tells it all. Chokehold is the real history book for pro wrestling.
Not this stuff.
Nat1831 4 years ago
never 100 positive of of the none contracted stars
smudgeVIW 5 years ago
remember the wcw title "fused" with the wwe title. So now the wwe title is THE world heavyweight title.
ultimatedude1 5 years ago
When you look at DDP then he was good and when he went to wwe he was abused. They made a fued out of him and Christian
snazzycazzy 5 years ago
Great video...too bad they violated kayfaybe a little. Five stars!
mattyblast 5 years ago
What dvd is this from?
wirednampd2 5 years ago
JCP was a financial wreck because the crockets suck at business... Flair and Duh-sty still braught in the ratings,video sales, closed circuit tv buys, and put asses in the seats... See the first two bash tours for proof...
patrickthadude 5 years ago
See ANY main event Flair headlined in any territory in the early 80s... Saint Louis against Brody drew 20,000... Parade of champions in texas drew 43,000! And that was WITHOUT the wwf pr machine or pandering to kids... Turner baught it and didn't do anything with it until nitro...
patrickthadude 5 years ago
Brody was a big draw in St Louis. He would have drawn that well against any credible main eventer.
In Texas, the Von Erichs were the draw. They came to see the Von Erich's, not Ric Flair.
dogfan4lyfe 5 years ago
Von Erichs-Greatest Wrestling Dynasty ever.
Urvy1A 5 years ago
I meant JCP in last post. Anyway, I agree with you about Hogan in '94 and '95. Thats the only thing he was good at was bringing in money. But hell he couldn't wrestle worth crap. My Grandma could do a better leg drop than he could. Bottom line, Flair and the Horsemen were the greatest performers and wrestlers of all time!!
brettp1982 5 years ago
Hogan could wrestle fine (see my video Hogan vs Fujinami).
dogfan4lyfe 5 years ago
In this farcical business that is rasssslin, you have to be a little bit two-faced. The only piece of shit in the video though is Bischoff. If Vinnie Mac had shown his face when his daddy was mentioned, that would have made it 2.
ladsk 5 years ago
WWE did a piece on the NWA World Heavyweight championship -- a title which is currently owned by TNA up until 2014. They also mixed up the histoy of the NWA World Heavyweight title (which ended it's association with NWA/WCW when Shane Douglas won it in 1994) and the NWA/WCW World title -- a different title which dates back to 1991. I'm sure they were pretending that their WWE World Heavyweight title was what they were talking about -- but that title's history only dates back to 2002.
Ogyaf 5 years ago
First of all, I don't know what possessed u idiots of dissing the nature boy like that. If u really think about it, both Sting and Flair worked extra hard to keep WCW running up until its downfall. I think Sting and Flair are the two greatest wreslters of all time in WCW. He didn't criticize anybody EXCEPT Jim Herd and the people who wanted him to change. Oh and dogfan4lyfe, get your facts right watch his DVD so you won't say anymore bullshit.
geteagle21 5 years ago
Shut your hole, puke. Everything I said is true. I have already watched that kiss-asses' dvd and it proved nothing except what a two-faced lying piece of shit hypocrite Dick Flair really is.
dogfan4lyfe 5 years ago
yeah yeeh. good old wcw.
xJannnnyx 5 years ago