Ziggy T - Why I advocate The Zeitgeist Movement and The Venus Project

[milesname1]

Thumbs up if you came here from gk2gk

[aldovisavee]

well said man. Its cool hearing from someone who has experienced the workings of automation.

[mastakur]

I am from a poor country and some days I have no food. I do not support them .

[TheDebtisslavery]

@Peterwhitlock no one listens to you, that's all.

[Peterwhitlock]

We have been asking the owners of such posted stuff to remove them because it still sucks in victims even after the Fresco exposed and TZm split from TVP.

We urge people to post that they wish this stuff gone from the web as fale advertising for scams.

Now TZM is welcome to grow without TVP but to link with them is wrong and make false impression that fresco is not the con man is is exposed as.

NO links to TZM with TVP should exist!

TZm stands alone with mankind and fresco in the cold.

[glassandroid]

I agree 1000%.

[Goodalfred2]

Good job! It gives inspiration



[Siren2277]

I really like your "Why I Support TMZ" video. I found that I can really relate to it because I, too, work in and study in IT/software, and I have been thinking to myself when I get out of school with all this technical knowledge, I want to contribute to TZM to help program the machines and other things that Jacques designed to make this possible, not to automation that only helps a few people for a short amount of time. Thanks for being on the good side! :-)

[Peterwhitlock]

@Siren2277

TZM is no longer link to the freak Fresco and are not building his fake crap.

TZM is almost non existant now

It has changed focuse from Fresco junk to open models of anyone because fresco was so far off in logic, materials, gravity, effects of nature... seams to have skipped the education part and faked it all only to be exposed.

so few to none support his works now and few want TZM and Fresco hates TZM by the way.

He refused to share profits and so split

Fresco scamed TZM

[eljodedor73]

@WhoShotJRBobDobbs The video you posted is a rant, shouted instead of spoken, it doesn't present any evidence of anything but accepts assumptions as truths in every single sentence, from theism to conspiracies. It speaks about the "intentions" of the fictitious NWO as if it was a political party with a publicly available platform. It speaks about "order" as something that is necessary, and in a religious way. Mate, W-T-F! Are you a 12 year-old?

[eljodedor73]

@WhoShotJRBobDobbs There is so much good scientific material that it makes no sense wasting time in writings of illuminated dudes. One quick browse through Pierce's entry in the Wikipedia is enough for me to disregard any works by him (are we talking about this dude? (wikipedia entry William_Luther_Pierce) as there were several people by that name). Why would you pay any attention to some guy who created a religion based on white supremacy? Total waste of time.

[eljodedor73]

@WhoShotJRBobDobbs That is a fallacy. Its well known now that competition for survival is not the basis for life, but rather adaptation to environment for genetic legacy. It's been unchallenged since "The Selfish Gene" in the late 60s. Competition only occurs in the face of stress, which is not the natural state; the natural state is relaxation and minding your business, whilst stress only happens in extreme circumstances. Remove stress from a community and there won't be any competition.

[eljodedor73]

@WhoShotJRBobDobbs Stating that society is a slave farm is comparable to stating that having children is an attempt to gain eternal life: you can choose to derive that meaning if you want, but it is totally pointless. There is a status quo, there are beneficiaries of such state who happens to convalidate it, justify it (everybody justifies what they do) and try and sustain it. There is no plan, no NWO, no conspiracy. This is people living their lives the way they know life. It's all environment.

[eljodedor73]

@WhoShotJRBobDobbs Everything always builds on previous knowledge and experience, nothing is entirely novel out of nowhere. Invalidating TZM (or TVP) by considering that this or that claim or proposal has been done before is rather silly: of course it's done before! Possibly many of TZM proposals are as old as recorded History and never achieved yet! But there are novel elements to TVP, and even more novel in TZM, because it takes into account recent technology as tools to help us evolving

[eljodedor73]

@WhoShotJRBobDobbs There is no way to know how a sane/peaceful society would deal with this kind of issues, as we have not have any previous examples. However I would venture saying that such community would be monitored as "Nature", and would not interfere unless the harm done would be dramatic; the RBE would try to both ensure respect for this community's right to opt-out, and try and contain (and repair) any damage caused by this "lowly" species, whilst focusing on more important matters.

[dvmovie]

@WhoShotJRBobDobbs (cont'd)... inspired by fear (from our system?). Here's my video on the "communism, new world order" comparisons -- /watch?v=SpkQyY_BT6s&feature=r­elated -- At this point, I have to put my faith in science, logic, and rationale thinking. I want scientists, technicians, and inventors leading the way. Not politicians, military men, corporate and banking interests (concerned only with money and power and gaining advantage). But I'm still hopeful. I won't let you squash that!

[dvmovie]

@WhoShotJRBobDobbs I just don't think you can compare what's happened throughout history with our current society. Indians fought each other for many reasons: fear, superstitions, a more primitive culture, to name a few. And there WERE times of scarcity for them. But it's such a different world. You can't even compare it to thirty years ago! It's a new era... with amazing technological advancements. And the "people behind the curtain"? No, that's just nonsense. Inspired by ... (cont'd)

[dvmovie]

@WhoShotJRBobDobbs Let me try to answer with a "thought exercise".  Let's say we've all taken a good look at our technological realities, and we're convinced that we can produce more than enough food, energy, and housing for everyone on the planet... with automated-systems doing almost all of the work. You have everything you need... and access to almost anything you want. Then what's the motivation to have more? Or to create weapons to have power over others? (I'll finish on your channel)

[dvmovie]

@WhoShotJRBobDobbs (cont'd) ... in order to determine the most efficient solutions... all "open source"... nothing to hide... no personal gain or private interests." I wish you could watch the "Orientation" video, which is about the FACTS of our current situation, or what's REAL! -- /watch?v=WnK5mBCFTMg -- I think this is our only hope... science and logic. Can we solve these problems in a monetary system? No, that's not how the monopoly game is played, won't work. Thanks again for listening.

[dvmovie]

@WhoShotJRBobDobbs I watched the video, and I agree with you, and I posted this comment: "Sustainable policies regarding our environmental-management are crucial at this point in time. But Agenda 21 won't solve these problems because it would be implemented by Governments... in a Monetary System...where people can manipulate and gain advantage for private interests. In a resource-economy (without money), decisions would be made by scientific method... or "logic"... (cont'd)

[dvmovie]

@WhoShotJRBobDobbs (cont'd) Our advanced technology has now made it possible to move out of this system based on scarcity, and to solve many of the overwhelming problems our current system has created. We'll have to trust each other in order to take that step. But what has our socio-economic system conditioned us to believe? You can't trust anybody! Oh well... thanks for listening. My best to you! Peace.

[dvmovie]

@WhoShotJRBobDobbs Thanks for your polite response. I understand what you're saying, but I truly believe our social system is the root cause of these "dark forces". Our system requires us to fight and take from each other, anything to gain advantage. Naturally, people are confrontational, angry and resentful, bitter and intolerant. And this sickness manifests itself in many forms of aberrant behavior. But it's human BEHAVIOR, not human nature. (cont'd)

[dvmovie]

@WhoShotJRBobDobbs The logic supporting the resource economy makes perfect sense to me. Your words don't. But I'm curious... Are you supporting this monetary system that's crumbling right before our eyes? It's completely unsustainable, you know. It "rewards" us with endless wars, overwhelming corruption and greed. It trashes our environment to keep the consumption cycle turning. It's hurting us more than it's helping us at this point. Unsustainable! You understand this, right?

[MovingUpp]

How can the selfish bullies be dealt with? It's a huge issue, from obama to ben bernake...

[Peterwhitlock]

TZM advocate the death /murder of over 200 million people at the end of the movie moving forward.We ask you leave TZM and place the reason that RBE is a lie and TZM has only the function to make CRITICAL MASS of members to harm all nations with massif migrations of overpopulation for our resources they claim be FREE to all as equals but is impossible to do. TZM moving forward is now banned world wide and we ask you remove all support to the doomsday cult TVP and TZM and future by design

[eljodedor73]

@Peterwhitlock I must confess I fought the impulse of removing (and thus censoring) your comment. I think it is important to note that what you have done is nothing more than a rant, and a libel, and I can't see in it any constructive value. It is very much what TZM advocates to leaving behind as a society, whilst moving globally towards the goals of science, knowledge, freedom, abundance and peace. I'd appreciate evidence for your claim of ZMF having been banned, and wonder who's "we".

[xXEduBuntuXx]

@Peterwhitlock WTF! he describes how he, his self, sees the answer to all our questions. And you just write any shit that its in your head or what?? READ WHAT YOU WROTE 4 MONTHS AGO; NOW!

WHAT IS YOUR ANSWER, FOR A BETTER WORLD? BTW: Realy good speech, I am also an OSS activist! I know Linux well, and use it.

[Peterwhitlock]

@xXEduBuntuXx

you have to be a super IDIOT to say that to prove you did not bother to look at my channels that does exactly that.

[EasternMerchant]

@Peterwhitlock you do realize that with an RBE society....those who choose to live out in the country and isolate will now be more possible becuase land will no longer be taxed. RBE offers more freedom to xenophobic and isolationist movements such as the Amish people.

[Peterwhitlock]

@EasternMerchant

Are you INSANE?

it forces whole countries to move to get water food and abundance the lies say they can have! it lies that the poor can be like the rich tho no such thing is possible due to LACK OF RESOURCES! Abundance does not make metals multiply or prevent births or stop extinction or stop quality loss due to over population as it is!

Please grow up!

it always was overpopulation and why YOU LIVE IN APARTMENTS OR CITIES OR WORSE!

You do not even grasp basics

[chumeza]

¡Grabálo en nuestra lengua, Ché! ¿Viste?

[OnePieceWonPeace]

Fellow developer and Venus Project supporter. I too would like to c an open-source type of society. As we c now, almost the entire mainstream internet utilization is now open-source. Now i have begun a project for the sake of contribution. I hope to c more of this.

[Profemiliomorles]

Namaste!

[eljodedor73]

@WhoShotJRBobDobbs Thanks for your opinion, unfortunately as it is so uninformed it really doesn't contribute much. My reply to Interracialnow also applies to your post. There'd be no central planning in TVP, there'd be a centralised management of resources, which is vastly different in spirit and outcome; also it'd be centralised at city level, not at world level: at world level there would be a collaboration between the individual city efforts for managing resources as optimally as practicable

[Interracialnow]

The Zeitgiest Movement and the Venus Project sound like such amazing ideas -- almost too good to be true -- and in fact, like in most cases ...THEY ARE! The main goal of the New World Order is the destruction of all religion, replaced by the worship of reason (humanism) and the destruction of all independent governments secretly replaced by a world government ruled by the Illuminati. Please do some research on this before moving forward with this advocation.

[eljodedor73]

@Interracialnow There is no more reason to believe on the existence of the illuminati as there is reason to believe in the Yeti, UFOs, ghosts, extrasensory perceptions, etc. If you look for evidence of any of these (NWO and Illuminati included) you'll find lots of accounts, vague descriptions, tons of opinion, heated discussions, and zero respectable evidence. While you talk about the illuminati your bank deposits are loaned to weapons manufacturers. I rather trust overwhelming evidence.

[DeadliestLies]

Love the music!

[bagiee1]

...very well said...thank you for your support.... :)

[VenusAsABoyFilms]

Good job. 

[Buybuffalo2]

For those who've joined or wish to join the Zeitgeist Movement, ZM is currently running a side project--we wish to gather about 25k members to participate in D-Wave's AQUA research project, through BOINC and for science!

BOINC is a volunteer grid computing system that uses your computer to solve problems. Simply put, you can help researchers with your idle CPU

for those who wish to learn more, Google "The Zeitgeist Movement title=BOINC"

[MrTabootopics]

Thank you for making this video. Good job bro.

[doomicle]

Really good Ziggy! You've really got your facts together there. Nicely done.

[strawprophet]

well done!

[Pertemba40]

Good job Jodedor. Do you really jodes? Just kidding bro. Brazil, che bonito e Brazil, zucu, zucucu, zamba! Mais grande, best.

[4everyong2]

nice job

[Pocomaxa007]

great!

[silversobe]

Great post.. 

[ricardosumo1000]

from Brazil... great vid! ;D

[keywee11]

Thanks, well said.

[Jossos]

brother it has been a privilege to listen to you!

[deniceinspain]

go brother!!!

[zeitgeistmonroe]

thanks Ziggy T

[tazmaniainc]

great!

btw: is that how you look angry? never saw you in a state below smile ;]

[eljodedor73]

@tazmaniainc It is actually very frustrating, I find it very hard to express emotion, particularly when I'm nervous. I guess it is one of the downsides of being an Aspie...

[tazmaniainc]

@eljodedor73

so many people want to get rid of that feeling - anger is accualy the worst form of communication, no need to force it ;]