Fuckin hell I had to listen to the whole 30mins and I have it on my facebook as well as send it to my dad youtube needs to do the 5 stars back again this was well put together
27:00 to 28:43...people forgot about Sharmba Mitchell. and they also forgot Tszyu was injured after that and came back to fight Hatton. They celebrated Hatton also but for a long time, He never left Europe for his fights and he never fought the key guys at 140lbs either. Floyd beat him and got no credit...Pac beats him and gets a Media blowjob.
Both these guys did alot of ducking. The biggest difference is the apponents Pac did not duck were pressured into signing fucked up clauses in order to get a big money fight. That catch weight, no-rehydration shit and Pac actually got credit & praise for it.
What i want to see now is if the press and commentators and such will put the kind of pressure on Pac the way they did Mayweather by asking Pac why he will not fight Floyd
@ashyknockles keep posting videos exposing dis Shyt bro real Shyt man, u got tha boxing knowledge n people like me will listen, Hell I'm bout to start posting Sun videos
Did you see uncle tom ass mike wilbon and freddie the shake roach on pti? lol all manny needs is 8 weeks but may 5th is too son and his cuts needs to heal lmao they have ran out of excuses haha
@gqunit69 How is Victor Ortiz a bum? Manny Paqcrap never was down for giving Victor Ortiz and chance to fight him; Victor Ortiz in my opinion would destroy Canelo "Great White Hope" Alvarez. Floyd has always fought the best fighters out there for him to fight; he dosen't dehydrate opponents via making them sign Dehydration clauses at catch weight. Anyone who supports Manny Bitchmade Pac-wac-rat-crap is not a true fan of the sport they're just a whore made pathetic human and Paqcrap is a whore2!
great vid. cant believe people still think arum and pac are not responsible for this fight not taking place.people who talk the most and who change there excuses and stories are obviously the guilty ones....
@ashyknuckles1 I have a counterpoint in regards to your point about boxers no suing each other over ped accusations. Between 2 normal pro-boxers, it's out of the norm. However, M.P. isn't your typical boxer. He has political aspirations, which I never liked. His rep's still very important outside of boxing. Look @ what those accusation did. Like the movie Inception, that 1 seed that FM Sr. planted, has become a tree that no 1 has see yet. Sadly, many blindly believe that it's there w/ no proof.
@TheRestlessMinds No proof? What do you call moving up 4 weight divisions in a year? Refusing a blood test? The head size increase? The sudden surge in strength? Power? stamina? Well, based on what u saying than, we have no proof that Hitler was responsible for killing the jews I guess we just have to assume he had no idea
@TheRestlessMinds Thanks for listening to the video. Pacquiao hasn't tested positive but has done a lot to make people suspicious. He could have nipped it all in the bud years ago and the accusations go away. He had nothing to lose, right?
@mickvandam69 Floyd announced the May 5 date 2 weeks before Manny fought Juan, so where do you get the idea "Floyd waited to see Manny look like shyt against JMM"?
I agree that Pacman needs to demand the fight. but LOL at him ducking Tim Austin and Mark Johnson??????????? When Pacman came to the states he was 122 pounder, Austin and Johnson never even heard of him before he fought Barrera. So I can't agree on that he ducked those guys, how could he duck guys who were not even being mentioned to fight him? He could have faced Zahir, Guzman and Soto and Nate Campbell though.
@MisterRepoMan Thanks for listening to the video. Pacquiao may have come to the US as a 122lber, but he also came as a professional fighter and a former world champion. Name one fighter who doesn't know who the champions are in and around their divisions. Pac knew who they were, he ducked them. Fighters know who the champions are, champions don't necessarily know who's next contender.
@ashyknuckles1 Sorry I can't agree with you on that, he didn't duck 118 pounders at all. At the time no one even mentioned Pac or them in the same sentence, I have never ever heard them being mentioned when I used to watch Pac in the early 2000's,Thats like saying he ducked Rafa Marquez who was a top 118lber at the time. the only fighter I remember them trying to pit with Pac was Prince Naseem and the 3 great mexicans. Pac is the classic case of dirt poor kid boxing for money,
@MisterRepoMan then why do people say floyd ducked cotto when cotto didnt even challenge floyd when he was champ and instead fought people for vacant titiles?..why do people say floyd duckd kostya tszyu when floyds 1st fight in that class was 21 days after hatton beat AND retired tszyu...why do ppl say floyd ducked margarito because he chose to fight the UNDISPUTED CHAMP in that division instead?
@PhoenixEdwards Actually Kostya said Floyd ducked him, and people ACTUALLY talked about Floyd versus those guys, NOBODY ever ever talked about Pac vs Tim Austin or Mark Johnson, Pac skilled 118 entirely cause he failed to make 112 pounds and lost. BE FAIR DOG! dont ever come at me like im a pactard. I already said Pac avoided Zahir, Guzman, Soto, and Nate Campbell. But I am non Biased and cannot agree with this BS about Pac ducking two guys at 118 when they were never mentioned
@MisterRepoMan thats wat im talkin about man...the PEOPLE the public...listening to boxing media...floyd said he wanted to go up and fight tszyu...ARUM said floyd agreed to 8mil to fight margarito & wanted a 10mil guarantee for BOTH hatton & cotto...BUT people ignore it...4 the same reason u dont agree about pac duckin ppl at 118 i feel that way about some of these guys because people didnt look at what was actually going on at that time...i covered it tho-->/watch?v=CpKQVnUOggg
Why do people keep saying he is fighting Cotto? I have yet to see anything official on this.
Also.....I found it humorous that i have read comments from people in the last month or so who thought a potential Floyd vs. Cotto fight would be a good one. SMH
@gqunit69 Ortiz was the WBC champion at the time and Floyd DIDN'T fight him at a catch weight! Ortiz was over 160lbs on fight night. Even Freddie Roach said Ortiz gave Pac all he could handle a 140lbs when they would spar, so either Roach is lying, Pac isn't that good, or you don't know what you're about.
@Jamon55 thanks, I was just about to say that, but disbeliever don't believe in proof, so evidence is irrelevant to them. Pac Man is like a god to these people.
Good vid, but it's easy to criticize pac right now. Mayweather only just got confident now after seeing pac made to look like shit in his last two fights. Truth is both have been ducking. Both are playing the game of timing. Having said that pac is looking real bad right now, he better step up.
They got the phrase "somethings are best left unsaid" but then there's somethings that's best said in full I watched this whole video and only a someone obsessed with pacquiao can argue against this cuz everything here is a fact
@NordStar22 Arum uses the media rather than contacting Floyd also. Floyd uses the media to put pressure on Manny and to respond to what Arum is saying publically to the media. Twitter is Floyd media outlet.... no different from giving that info to a reporter (who would probably twist his words). The mainstream picks up what he says on twitter and makes it news the same way they make what Arum says to a reporter news.
@NordStar22 Thanks for listening to the video. He has Arum's number but from a professional standpoint Mayweather also put out a press release two months ago. They just don't want it with Floyd.....for whatever reasons.
Solid points made. The media don't report Arums only fighting his fighters because they all use the same tricknology. They never address the owners, so that makes them slaves, houseboys. ESPN sucks, right now they don't even practice journalism. They are becoming the faux news of sports.
Manny Wac-Paq-crap-rat told Arum; I don't wanna fight blacks, Muscle Memory Mayweather's huge risk it's like he can't miss; so fast; so quick so God Damn crisp! Paqcrap fans aren't BoxIng fans they're nigga haters; Black Sports supremacy makes them want Floyd to be destroyed unfortunately for them, Money May don't Play, he'll beat Wac-Paq-crap-rat and make an example out of him. Mayweather's a counter puncher who stalks opponents while defending, Manny only fights bumass flatfooted fighters
arum is saying that floyd has no guarantee coz he has no promoter and he blatantly did said he is willing to give floyd a guarantee. a lot of investors are willing to guarantee both fighters for this fight in abu dhabi and singapore but floyd wants to fight at las vegas so he needs a guarantee since there will be no investors or promoters. arum wants to get maximum profit for this fight for himself andpac but floyd cannot see that coz he has no promotional company,
exactly this fight is a once of a lifetime so why not make the best profit out of it. why not increase the gate from 30-40 million. we might not have this fight ever again. your wrong increasing the seat price will not guarantee that seat will be bought. who will buy it? if the price was doubled would you buy it? blood test excuse he did said it that he lost to morales coz of the blood test so if he said already lost 8 years ago to a lesser fighter would he risk getting weak to a stronger one?
@jcsgasco Lost because of a blood test? Lost because of the gloves? Sounds like more excuses to me. How about lost to the better man? Sounds accurate. Thanks for listening to the vid.
even if pac lost to floyd I don't think his stock will go down. he will lost to an undefeated champion. pac can still fight cotto, bradley, marquez after losing to floyd. however if floyd lost to pac then it will be his 1st and he will just be another boxer out there. floyds stock will go down tremendously. he would have lost to a midget.so basically you're wrong... money will still keep coming to arum even after a lost to floyd. don't know about you but i just got a blood test and I feel weak.
Gr8 vid man ur on point with a lot things, what i dont understand is why dosent pacquiao realise he dont need bob scum arum its like he wana be pimped for the rest of his career by bob arum
I agree with you, Arum never wanted the fight, but Mayweather never did either until he saw Pacquiao outed by Marquez, and then as he ALWAYS does when he sees someone else write a blue print on how to beat someone, he cowboys up and says he suddenly wants the fight. Mayweather was flat out ducking that fight for years too, and anyone who rejects that fact is equally as blind as the people that say Pacquiao's side are blameless. They both suck and dont deserve our interest.
@mickvandam69 bullshit floyd was NEVER ducking pacquiao.he always wanted that fight.that fight might generate over 50 million dollars.so dont try to twist that and blame mayweather.only fighter that floyd fought coming off a loss was to zab judah.pacquiao is the coward not mayweather
@TheRealness180 Floyd is the biggest serial ducker in boxing! He hasn't faced the number 1 legitimate fighter in his weight division since he fought at 135. When Pacquiao was ready to fight Floyd fought Marquez, Mosley and wouldn't even say Pacquiao's name in interviews when asked about the fight! He only takes fights he 100% knows he can win, he will NEVER take a fight that isn't a sure thing, hense why he DUCKED Cotto while he was still undefeated.
@TheRealness180 They are BOTH to blame. Floyd for being a coward 2 years ago and suddenly deciding he wants to "clean up" the sport (and then fighting a convicted drugs cheat LOL!!!!!), and Manny for letting Arum and his team dictate to him when as a champion he should be DEMANDING the best out there. They are both a disgrace to the sport and frankly I'd be far more interested to see Nonito Donaire fight Toshiaki Nishioka than these two celebrity wannabees face off. Fuck them both.
I agree with this. FMJ found an edge in drug use & ran with it. Pac some how flipped it & made FMJ look scared. From there it was a bluffing contest. More so with Pac saying he will take the test & calling FMJ bluff. Now its FMJ flipping it & calling Pacs bluff. They mofo's fucked up. The hype for this fight already peaked & began to fall. I wouldnt doubt if this fight is already signed but the JMM fight derailed the plans bc Pac lost alot support
@mickvandam69 Thanks for listening to the vid. Team Mayweather put a press release, about his intent to fight Pacquiao, days before the Pacquiao vs Marquez III fight. But, I do agree that him seeing the fight probably increased his confidence even moreso than before. Floyd already had two Marquez-Pac fights to watch and dissect Pacquiao for weaknesses.
@ashyknuckles1 I agree with everything you've said about the Pac side of things, but Mayweather had previously done everything in his power to avoid the fight. Was it because he was scared to lose or did he just think the longer he drew it out the more money it would be worth? Who knows, the fact is, the fight was done and he (not Manny, not Arum) threw a spanner in the works to make the fight unworkable at that time. Like I say, they are both equally to blame and now the fight is not relevant.
@mickvandam69 Apparently you haven't been listening to this video...your not a boxing FAN,,, You are a fan of a fighter.. your Not a fight Fan, your a fighters fan.,,(6:10-6:20)
Listen to all this Video,,,, Better YET go and MAKE your Video lol
@billylo2010 Apparently you didn't really read any of my posts properly. I am not a fan of either Pacquiao or Mayweather, they are both terrible for the sport and I honestly wish they'd both dissapear. I am just calling ashy out (a guy who I very rarely disagree with by the way) on the one sided nature of his argument when BOTH men have done an awful lot to ensure they dont have to risk losing to the other. The lower weight classes and guys like Andre Ward should be given the attention instead.
That's why Manny is unable to decide for himself and demands this fight to be done. Because he feels that he has to obey Arum and do as he says.
And well in the other hand if I was Floyd I wouldn't be too interested in doing this fight, Floyd does not need Pacquiao but Pacquiao really needs Floyd to convince his fans and regain some credibility after he lost to marquez but specially after this circus top rank is putting on that is making him look like a coward .
and Australia is full of Asian immigrants so I got to know them very well, then I came to Europe to study and Europe is full of asian immigrants too (mostly from China and Filipines ) and you can see that Filipinos somehow still see themselves as slaves or servants of the white people, they speak quiet when on the subway, they don't make friendship or socialize with other people but with their own kind and I'm positive that it is because of some kind of inferiority complex towards the whites
Hey man this was a great video, thank you for sharing your thought on this, well let me tell you I agree with everything you've said in this video but i would like to add that many should understand that Bob Arum works for him and not the other way around, but hey remember ( Im not trying to be racist ) but he has the mentality of an asian slave. We south americans and you blacks from USA we don't see the white man as our master you know what I mean?
Great vid. I feel like people know Pac never really wanted the fight, especially after the JMM 3. At times it did seem like Floyd didnt want the fight. It was a bluff by Pacs camp that blew up in their faces with the JMM 3 fight outcome. Floyd & the world saw Pac really did have a chance so Floyd got alot more aggressive with making the fight, so there wasnt anymore bluffs for Pac to call
@ashyknuckles1: He really didn't beat Morales. Morales beat that boy easily in the first fight. In the second fight they drained Morales making him fight at a catchweight and putting in the no hydration clause. It was in the Morales fight that they started using the drain weight formula for Pacquiao's future fight.
I don't like Dan Rafael either...He's finally adimting what we've known for years. Rafael is a donut eating slob. Teddy Atlas is the only 1 on espn that knows boxing.
And Im glad you brought up Dan Rapheal. He is the only unbias boxing writer. For those who dont know he writes for espn just a couple of years ago he question mayweather's intention. Now, he said it on live t.v, that pac man has to step up be a man and tell bob arum to negotiate the fight. Basically called him a bitch in a polite manner. On the other hand you have skip, aslo from espn always bashing floyd, and its funny because everytime he opens his mouth about any sport he sounds ridiculous.
Well said man. Completely unbias. I actually loved this vid. thumbs up. The only way were going to get this fight to happen is if we come together and boycott toprank. I made a video hoping we can come together as boxing fans and put an end to this. We can do it bro. Let our voices be heard. Great vid man. You have my subscription.
@ashyknuckles1 shit i feel u son...but ay man...dis sum real shit tho...nobody be callin out pacs ppl on nothin...everybody ask floyd when he gon fight pac...SAME ANSWER man "when he takes the tests" ppl like o pac said he agreed...but floyd said when pac takes em...not when he agree to em...and nobody ever asked pacquiao how soon he was ready 2 start takin em at all man...n im surprised how many people believin arum instead of lookin at what actually goin on...media killin boxin more each day
Don't forget Zahir Raheem after Raheem smashed Morales before the 2nd Pacquiao/Morales fight. Lampley n Stewart said he better stay away from Raheem n he did.
Fuckin hell I had to listen to the whole 30mins and I have it on my facebook as well as send it to my dad youtube needs to do the 5 stars back again this was well put together
blackPowerStick 2 weeks ago
Pacquiao and Bob Arum are cancer to the sport of boxing......
mob2p2014 1 month ago
25:03 to 26:00....nuff said. I'd like to see one...JUST ONE Pacfan debate ANYTHING on this video! They can't because there is too much knowledge.
broli28 1 month ago
Great video Ash. You definitely know your stuff bro, and you make some very true and valid points.
prospectboy 1 month ago
WOW, Great video brah...... I'm definitely gonna let other Boxing FANS to check out this video... Keep up the good work,,,, peace out
billylo2010 1 month ago
27:00 to 28:43...people forgot about Sharmba Mitchell. and they also forgot Tszyu was injured after that and came back to fight Hatton. They celebrated Hatton also but for a long time, He never left Europe for his fights and he never fought the key guys at 140lbs either. Floyd beat him and got no credit...Pac beats him and gets a Media blowjob.
broli28 1 month ago
19:44 to 21:53....can pac fight anyone on a win streak? lol!
broli28 1 month ago
09:05 to 10:03.....is very key.
broli28 1 month ago
05:22 to 06:29....this was key in describing how bias the media is and how uninformed pacfans are.
broli28 1 month ago
Keep Pacquiao winning...except he didn't win his last fight...
Anyway, i think its time to find some other fighters nuts to dip in your breakfast milk.
I wish boxing fans had enough self restraint to boycott all Arum fights.
Sonuvgawd 1 month ago
@Sonuvgawd amen
broli28 1 month ago
I'm literally scared of ashy
btw... va hee mint lee..... lol
MstrOpaI 1 month ago
30 Minutes of THE TRUTH! Great Video!
OTKP 1 month ago
@OTKP They better get their knowledge up before coming to me with that garbage. Thanks for watching the vid.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
ETHER !!!!!!!!!
MrBrickcityboxing 1 month ago
@MrBrickcityboxing Killing them slowly....
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
Straight Fire as always Ash!
OutsideTheRopes 1 month ago
@OutsideTheRopes No doubt. They never wanted to get it in with Money.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
lol LOVE the conclusion
Kidbox45 1 month ago
@Kidbox45 I appreciate it. Thanks for taking time out.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
I BEEN SAYIN THAT PAC IS RESPONSIBLE NOT JUST BOB ARUM & IT FEELS GOOD 2HEAR SOME1 ELSE FINALLY BLAME PAC.
factsism11 1 month ago
@factsism11 Most definitely. Thanks for watching. They make it seem as if paying attention is insanely difficult to do.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
subscribed - but if you love boxing bro, its ur duty to be a boxing journalist on youtube
goonsmile 1 month ago
@goonsmile It's hard to fully dedicate while my kids are so young, but as they get older my involvement in the sport will increase again.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
Quackquiao is a Bitch....Thumbs way Up
CouldBawake 1 month ago
@CouldBawake Yessir
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
Both these guys did alot of ducking. The biggest difference is the apponents Pac did not duck were pressured into signing fucked up clauses in order to get a big money fight. That catch weight, no-rehydration shit and Pac actually got credit & praise for it.
DoggysStyle 1 month ago
bradley would whoop his ass no doubt
bboyroxas 1 month ago
What i want to see now is if the press and commentators and such will put the kind of pressure on Pac the way they did Mayweather by asking Pac why he will not fight Floyd
DoggysStyle 1 month ago
Merchant keep saying I would not put Pac against Zahir through the whole fight practically...
ThaGodKingDorell 1 month ago
Pacquiao is the biggest fraud in Boxing history 3 years of ducking, pacman pound4pound
CATCH WIEGHT King.
k88m1 1 month ago 3
@k88m1 That's definitely the way it looks to me.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
@ashyknockles keep posting videos exposing dis Shyt bro real Shyt man, u got tha boxing knowledge n people like me will listen, Hell I'm bout to start posting Sun videos
MrUniquekristian 1 month ago
Did you see uncle tom ass mike wilbon and freddie the shake roach on pti? lol all manny needs is 8 weeks but may 5th is too son and his cuts needs to heal lmao they have ran out of excuses haha
Arshad221 1 month ago
@gqunit69 How is Victor Ortiz a bum? Manny Paqcrap never was down for giving Victor Ortiz and chance to fight him; Victor Ortiz in my opinion would destroy Canelo "Great White Hope" Alvarez. Floyd has always fought the best fighters out there for him to fight; he dosen't dehydrate opponents via making them sign Dehydration clauses at catch weight. Anyone who supports Manny Bitchmade Pac-wac-rat-crap is not a true fan of the sport they're just a whore made pathetic human and Paqcrap is a whore2!
switch3point 1 month ago
great vid. cant believe people still think arum and pac are not responsible for this fight not taking place.people who talk the most and who change there excuses and stories are obviously the guilty ones....
sugarnadf 1 month ago
@sugarnadf Thx for enduring 30 minutes of frustration. I appreciate it.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
thumbs up thumbs up
TheJdil 1 month ago
@TheJdil Much appreciated.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
THUMBS UP!!
bertmarx4ever 1 month ago
@bertmarx4ever Thanks for listening to it. Had a lot on my mind.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
@ashyknuckles1 I have a counterpoint in regards to your point about boxers no suing each other over ped accusations. Between 2 normal pro-boxers, it's out of the norm. However, M.P. isn't your typical boxer. He has political aspirations, which I never liked. His rep's still very important outside of boxing. Look @ what those accusation did. Like the movie Inception, that 1 seed that FM Sr. planted, has become a tree that no 1 has see yet. Sadly, many blindly believe that it's there w/ no proof.
TheRestlessMinds 1 month ago
@TheRestlessMinds No proof? What do you call moving up 4 weight divisions in a year? Refusing a blood test? The head size increase? The sudden surge in strength? Power? stamina? Well, based on what u saying than, we have no proof that Hitler was responsible for killing the jews I guess we just have to assume he had no idea
Kidbox45 1 month ago
@TheRestlessMinds Thanks for listening to the video. Pacquiao hasn't tested positive but has done a lot to make people suspicious. He could have nipped it all in the bud years ago and the accusations go away. He had nothing to lose, right?
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
@TheRealness180 amen
GeeeksOtaku2020 1 month ago
@mickvandam69 Floyd announced the May 5 date 2 weeks before Manny fought Juan, so where do you get the idea "Floyd waited to see Manny look like shyt against JMM"?
Pullcountertv 1 month ago
@Pullcountertv hes just a pactard who realized his hero got exposed for being a fraud and he wants to drag floyd down with pacquiao to
TheRealness180 1 month ago
@Pullcountertv I think what "mickvandam69" was saying is that Floyd mentioned the date before the JMM fight but did call Pac out until after.
DoggysStyle 1 month ago
Pacquiao is the biggest Bitch in boxing.
Lift1One 1 month ago
@Lift1One Thanks for listening to the vid.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
Completeness. Great Break down! wow! Check out my vidz Mannt "Excuses" Pacmeow.
MickeyGunz72 1 month ago
@MickeyGunz72 No doubt no doubt. Thanks for listening to the vid. Much appreciated.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
@MickeyGunz72 Bet. Imma give it a look.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
absolutely
fairshakeboxing 1 month ago
I agree that Pacman needs to demand the fight. but LOL at him ducking Tim Austin and Mark Johnson??????????? When Pacman came to the states he was 122 pounder, Austin and Johnson never even heard of him before he fought Barrera. So I can't agree on that he ducked those guys, how could he duck guys who were not even being mentioned to fight him? He could have faced Zahir, Guzman and Soto and Nate Campbell though.
MisterRepoMan 1 month ago
@MisterRepoMan Thanks for listening to the video. Pacquiao may have come to the US as a 122lber, but he also came as a professional fighter and a former world champion. Name one fighter who doesn't know who the champions are in and around their divisions. Pac knew who they were, he ducked them. Fighters know who the champions are, champions don't necessarily know who's next contender.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
@ashyknuckles1 Sorry I can't agree with you on that, he didn't duck 118 pounders at all. At the time no one even mentioned Pac or them in the same sentence, I have never ever heard them being mentioned when I used to watch Pac in the early 2000's,Thats like saying he ducked Rafa Marquez who was a top 118lber at the time. the only fighter I remember them trying to pit with Pac was Prince Naseem and the 3 great mexicans. Pac is the classic case of dirt poor kid boxing for money,
MisterRepoMan 1 month ago
@MisterRepoMan then why do people say floyd ducked cotto when cotto didnt even challenge floyd when he was champ and instead fought people for vacant titiles?..why do people say floyd duckd kostya tszyu when floyds 1st fight in that class was 21 days after hatton beat AND retired tszyu...why do ppl say floyd ducked margarito because he chose to fight the UNDISPUTED CHAMP in that division instead?
PhoenixEdwards 1 month ago 2
@PhoenixEdwards Actually Kostya said Floyd ducked him, and people ACTUALLY talked about Floyd versus those guys, NOBODY ever ever talked about Pac vs Tim Austin or Mark Johnson, Pac skilled 118 entirely cause he failed to make 112 pounds and lost. BE FAIR DOG! dont ever come at me like im a pactard. I already said Pac avoided Zahir, Guzman, Soto, and Nate Campbell. But I am non Biased and cannot agree with this BS about Pac ducking two guys at 118 when they were never mentioned
MisterRepoMan 1 month ago
@MisterRepoMan thats wat im talkin about man...the PEOPLE the public...listening to boxing media...floyd said he wanted to go up and fight tszyu...ARUM said floyd agreed to 8mil to fight margarito & wanted a 10mil guarantee for BOTH hatton & cotto...BUT people ignore it...4 the same reason u dont agree about pac duckin ppl at 118 i feel that way about some of these guys because people didnt look at what was actually going on at that time...i covered it tho-->/watch?v=CpKQVnUOggg
PhoenixEdwards 1 month ago
@MisterRepoMan n i kno u ain a pactard man...im just bringin in a point that what you said reminded me of
PhoenixEdwards 1 month ago
Why do people keep saying he is fighting Cotto? I have yet to see anything official on this.
Also.....I found it humorous that i have read comments from people in the last month or so who thought a potential Floyd vs. Cotto fight would be a good one. SMH
BazookaIke 1 month ago
@BazookaIke people say he's fighting cotto next because manny's wife told a reporter that manny choose cotto has his next opponent.
zarbon700 1 month ago
This fight is not going to happen ...we just need to move on. Its sad to say but boxing is dead.
dnrmafia 1 month ago
@dnrmafia Thanks for listening. But, I truly hope you're wrong (about boxing dead).
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
I got lost by all this i wont lie, it's all become a blur, this video makes it very clear. Best Pacquiao / Mayweather video i've watched.
ukwingchunstudent 1 month ago
@ukwingchunstudent agreed uk, this video has to be number 1 on this topic
delmarfo 1 month ago
@ukwingchunstudent Thanks for enduring 30 min of frustration.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
didnt manny just recently agree to a test? even 2 weeks before the fight
SizzleBizkit15 1 month ago
yea but when floyd fight ortiz yall bitches act like its a great fight..
y is it that its ok for floyd to fight handpicked bums
but if pacquiao does the same yall bitch and complain
could it be you are a hypocrite?????
gqunit69 1 month ago
@gqunit69 Thanks for listening to the video.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
@gqunit69 Ortiz was the WBC champion at the time and Floyd DIDN'T fight him at a catch weight! Ortiz was over 160lbs on fight night. Even Freddie Roach said Ortiz gave Pac all he could handle a 140lbs when they would spar, so either Roach is lying, Pac isn't that good, or you don't know what you're about.
Jamon55 1 month ago
@Jamon55 thanks, I was just about to say that, but disbeliever don't believe in proof, so evidence is irrelevant to them. Pac Man is like a god to these people.
teachm3539 1 month ago
man what you said about the arena tickets going up in prices and pay per views purchases going up blew my mind away!!!!!!!!! im subscribing LOL
Requiem4PandaZ 1 month ago
@Requiem4PandaZ Thanks for listening to the video. I appreciate it.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
Great vid. Pacroid using arum as a scapegoat.. Another shady part of Manny Duckiao exposed!!
MrNgnga 1 month ago
@MrNgnga I hope he finally mans up and fight.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
*APPLAUSE* I wish people would wake up man. Good stuff
TheNakkuruzu 1 month ago
@TheNakkuruzu Thanks for listening the video. I had a lot on my mind.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
Manny BITCHiao
Kidbox45 1 month ago
Good vid, but it's easy to criticize pac right now. Mayweather only just got confident now after seeing pac made to look like shit in his last two fights. Truth is both have been ducking. Both are playing the game of timing. Having said that pac is looking real bad right now, he better step up.
narang 1 month ago
They got the phrase "somethings are best left unsaid" but then there's somethings that's best said in full I watched this whole video and only a someone obsessed with pacquiao can argue against this cuz everything here is a fact
vidz06 1 month ago
@vidz06 Thanks for listening to it all. It wasn't coming from the media so I just release it how I thought it should be said.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
Excellent video bro, glad to see u exposing tha truth
MrUniquekristian 1 month ago
@MrUniquekristian no doubt. Thanks for listening to it all.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
exactly.......now Arum's got Bradley for the next generation. also ur right about the media givin pacman a pass.
ThunderFan1017 1 month ago
@ThunderFan1017 Thanks for listening the video. 30 min is asking a lot. I appreciate it.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
damn good vid but only thing I would say is why is Mayweather calling him out over social media instead of submitting an offer, he has Arum's number
NordStar22 1 month ago
@NordStar22 Arum uses the media rather than contacting Floyd also. Floyd uses the media to put pressure on Manny and to respond to what Arum is saying publically to the media. Twitter is Floyd media outlet.... no different from giving that info to a reporter (who would probably twist his words). The mainstream picks up what he says on twitter and makes it news the same way they make what Arum says to a reporter news.
MstrOpaI 1 month ago
@NordStar22 Thanks for listening to the video. He has Arum's number but from a professional standpoint Mayweather also put out a press release two months ago. They just don't want it with Floyd.....for whatever reasons.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
THUMBS UP!!!!!!!!!
hortonc20 1 month ago
@hortonc20 Thanks for listening to the video. Much appreciated.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
Solid points made. The media don't report Arums only fighting his fighters because they all use the same tricknology. They never address the owners, so that makes them slaves, houseboys. ESPN sucks, right now they don't even practice journalism. They are becoming the faux news of sports.
teachm3539 1 month ago
@teachm3539 Wow. Best comment so far. Thanks for listening to the video bro.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
this is the best video i have heard on this whole topic! Superb!
delmarfo 1 month ago
@delmarfo Thanks for the love homey. I appreciate it.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
Good vid
bgeezy305 1 month ago
@bgeezy305 Thanks
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
EXPOSE THEM BITCHES!!!!!!!!!KNUCKLES
hortonc20 1 month ago
@hortonc20 They don't want it with Money. For whatever reasons....
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
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Manny Wac-Paq-crap-rat told Arum; I don't wanna fight blacks, Muscle Memory Mayweather's huge risk it's like he can't miss; so fast; so quick so God Damn crisp! Paqcrap fans aren't BoxIng fans they're nigga haters; Black Sports supremacy makes them want Floyd to be destroyed unfortunately for them, Money May don't Play, he'll beat Wac-Paq-crap-rat and make an example out of him. Mayweather's a counter puncher who stalks opponents while defending, Manny only fights bumass flatfooted fighters
switch3point 1 month ago
very good break down of pretty much everything.
TheTrojanabuser 1 month ago
@TheTrojanabuser No doubt. Thanks for taking the time out to listen.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
Pacquiao is a bitch!!!
octopuspick 1 month ago
@octopuspick A big ole bitch
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
Thumbs up!!!
OuttaControlTroll 1 month ago
@OuttaControlTroll No doubt. Appreciate ya bro.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
arum is saying that floyd has no guarantee coz he has no promoter and he blatantly did said he is willing to give floyd a guarantee. a lot of investors are willing to guarantee both fighters for this fight in abu dhabi and singapore but floyd wants to fight at las vegas so he needs a guarantee since there will be no investors or promoters. arum wants to get maximum profit for this fight for himself andpac but floyd cannot see that coz he has no promotional company,
jcsgasco 1 month ago
exactly this fight is a once of a lifetime so why not make the best profit out of it. why not increase the gate from 30-40 million. we might not have this fight ever again. your wrong increasing the seat price will not guarantee that seat will be bought. who will buy it? if the price was doubled would you buy it? blood test excuse he did said it that he lost to morales coz of the blood test so if he said already lost 8 years ago to a lesser fighter would he risk getting weak to a stronger one?
jcsgasco 1 month ago
@jcsgasco Lost because of a blood test? Lost because of the gloves? Sounds like more excuses to me. How about lost to the better man? Sounds accurate. Thanks for listening to the vid.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
even if pac lost to floyd I don't think his stock will go down. he will lost to an undefeated champion. pac can still fight cotto, bradley, marquez after losing to floyd. however if floyd lost to pac then it will be his 1st and he will just be another boxer out there. floyds stock will go down tremendously. he would have lost to a midget.so basically you're wrong... money will still keep coming to arum even after a lost to floyd. don't know about you but i just got a blood test and I feel weak.
jcsgasco 1 month ago
BOTH teams are VERY hesitant to fight each other. That's The FACT!! Yes keep using your brains.
jazongmpn 1 month ago
@jazongmpn Thanks for listening to the video.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
Gr8 vid man ur on point with a lot things, what i dont understand is why dosent pacquiao realise he dont need bob scum arum its like he wana be pimped for the rest of his career by bob arum
KROGER299 1 month ago
@KROGER299 Thanks for listening to the vid. Pac probably thinks he needs Bob, or Konzc
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
I agree with you, Arum never wanted the fight, but Mayweather never did either until he saw Pacquiao outed by Marquez, and then as he ALWAYS does when he sees someone else write a blue print on how to beat someone, he cowboys up and says he suddenly wants the fight. Mayweather was flat out ducking that fight for years too, and anyone who rejects that fact is equally as blind as the people that say Pacquiao's side are blameless. They both suck and dont deserve our interest.
mickvandam69 1 month ago
@mickvandam69 bullshit floyd was NEVER ducking pacquiao.he always wanted that fight.that fight might generate over 50 million dollars.so dont try to twist that and blame mayweather.only fighter that floyd fought coming off a loss was to zab judah.pacquiao is the coward not mayweather
TheRealness180 1 month ago
@TheRealness180 Floyd is the biggest serial ducker in boxing! He hasn't faced the number 1 legitimate fighter in his weight division since he fought at 135. When Pacquiao was ready to fight Floyd fought Marquez, Mosley and wouldn't even say Pacquiao's name in interviews when asked about the fight! He only takes fights he 100% knows he can win, he will NEVER take a fight that isn't a sure thing, hense why he DUCKED Cotto while he was still undefeated.
mickvandam69 1 month ago
@TheRealness180 They are BOTH to blame. Floyd for being a coward 2 years ago and suddenly deciding he wants to "clean up" the sport (and then fighting a convicted drugs cheat LOL!!!!!), and Manny for letting Arum and his team dictate to him when as a champion he should be DEMANDING the best out there. They are both a disgrace to the sport and frankly I'd be far more interested to see Nonito Donaire fight Toshiaki Nishioka than these two celebrity wannabees face off. Fuck them both.
mickvandam69 1 month ago
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@mickvandam69 "They are BOTH to blame"
I agree with this. FMJ found an edge in drug use & ran with it. Pac some how flipped it & made FMJ look scared. From there it was a bluffing contest. More so with Pac saying he will take the test & calling FMJ bluff. Now its FMJ flipping it & calling Pacs bluff. They mofo's fucked up. The hype for this fight already peaked & began to fall. I wouldnt doubt if this fight is already signed but the JMM fight derailed the plans bc Pac lost alot support
DoggysStyle 1 month ago
@mickvandam69 Thanks for listening to the vid. Team Mayweather put a press release, about his intent to fight Pacquiao, days before the Pacquiao vs Marquez III fight. But, I do agree that him seeing the fight probably increased his confidence even moreso than before. Floyd already had two Marquez-Pac fights to watch and dissect Pacquiao for weaknesses.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
@ashyknuckles1 I agree with everything you've said about the Pac side of things, but Mayweather had previously done everything in his power to avoid the fight. Was it because he was scared to lose or did he just think the longer he drew it out the more money it would be worth? Who knows, the fact is, the fight was done and he (not Manny, not Arum) threw a spanner in the works to make the fight unworkable at that time. Like I say, they are both equally to blame and now the fight is not relevant.
mickvandam69 1 month ago
@mickvandam69 Apparently you haven't been listening to this video...your not a boxing FAN,,, You are a fan of a fighter.. your Not a fight Fan, your a fighters fan.,,(6:10-6:20)
Listen to all this Video,,,, Better YET go and MAKE your Video lol
billylo2010 1 month ago
@billylo2010 Apparently you didn't really read any of my posts properly. I am not a fan of either Pacquiao or Mayweather, they are both terrible for the sport and I honestly wish they'd both dissapear. I am just calling ashy out (a guy who I very rarely disagree with by the way) on the one sided nature of his argument when BOTH men have done an awful lot to ensure they dont have to risk losing to the other. The lower weight classes and guys like Andre Ward should be given the attention instead.
mickvandam69 1 month ago
I wanted to say on the other hand , sorry for my english
vacioprofundo 1 month ago
That's why Manny is unable to decide for himself and demands this fight to be done. Because he feels that he has to obey Arum and do as he says.
And well in the other hand if I was Floyd I wouldn't be too interested in doing this fight, Floyd does not need Pacquiao but Pacquiao really needs Floyd to convince his fans and regain some credibility after he lost to marquez but specially after this circus top rank is putting on that is making him look like a coward .
vacioprofundo 1 month ago
@vacioprofundo No doubt. Thanks for listening to the video.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
and Australia is full of Asian immigrants so I got to know them very well, then I came to Europe to study and Europe is full of asian immigrants too (mostly from China and Filipines ) and you can see that Filipinos somehow still see themselves as slaves or servants of the white people, they speak quiet when on the subway, they don't make friendship or socialize with other people but with their own kind and I'm positive that it is because of some kind of inferiority complex towards the whites
vacioprofundo 1 month ago
Hey man this was a great video, thank you for sharing your thought on this, well let me tell you I agree with everything you've said in this video but i would like to add that many should understand that Bob Arum works for him and not the other way around, but hey remember ( Im not trying to be racist ) but he has the mentality of an asian slave. We south americans and you blacks from USA we don't see the white man as our master you know what I mean?
I've lived in Australia in the past
vacioprofundo 1 month ago
great video man. Keep up the good work.
marco878ify 1 month ago
@marco878ify Thanks alot.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
Pacroid is a FRAUD! NO if's, and's, or but's!
MrJohnny583 1 month ago
@MrJohnny583 It definitely looks that way.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
"fighter of the decade my ass..you're not even a man!!!!"....classic...Ash let loose lol
SekondzOut 1 month ago
@SekondzOut Yessir!
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
on point vid!
divinesense 1 month ago
@divinesense No doubt. I appreciate it.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
Great vid. I feel like people know Pac never really wanted the fight, especially after the JMM 3. At times it did seem like Floyd didnt want the fight. It was a bluff by Pacs camp that blew up in their faces with the JMM 3 fight outcome. Floyd & the world saw Pac really did have a chance so Floyd got alot more aggressive with making the fight, so there wasnt anymore bluffs for Pac to call
DoggysStyle 1 month ago
@DoggysStyle No doubt. The gig is up. When Pac removed his official statement saying he agreed to May 5th, that pretty much sealed it.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
im with ya bruh im not a floyd fan but im done blaming floyd as well...its all on arum and pac,
elmajico361 1 month ago
@elmajico361 I would need to hear one HELL of a rebuttal to blame Floyd on this. Thanks for watching the vid.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
@ashyknuckles1: He really didn't beat Morales. Morales beat that boy easily in the first fight. In the second fight they drained Morales making him fight at a catchweight and putting in the no hydration clause. It was in the Morales fight that they started using the drain weight formula for Pacquiao's future fight.
jesusneverexisted300 1 month ago
great video!!!! pac fans need to start putting pressure on their fighter plain n simple.
elmajico361 1 month ago
I don't like Dan Rafael either...He's finally adimting what we've known for years. Rafael is a donut eating slob. Teddy Atlas is the only 1 on espn that knows boxing.
nukmuay619 1 month ago
@nukmuay619 Exactly.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
*round of applause*
mdmale80 1 month ago
@mdmale80 Thanks for support. I had to get it all out.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
And Im glad you brought up Dan Rapheal. He is the only unbias boxing writer. For those who dont know he writes for espn just a couple of years ago he question mayweather's intention. Now, he said it on live t.v, that pac man has to step up be a man and tell bob arum to negotiate the fight. Basically called him a bitch in a polite manner. On the other hand you have skip, aslo from espn always bashing floyd, and its funny because everytime he opens his mouth about any sport he sounds ridiculous.
zeekymoss11 1 month ago
@zeekymoss11 Yeah Skip brings that shocked factor to TV because its sole intent is to get ppls attention. He's garbage.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
Well said man. Completely unbias. I actually loved this vid. thumbs up. The only way were going to get this fight to happen is if we come together and boycott toprank. I made a video hoping we can come together as boxing fans and put an end to this. We can do it bro. Let our voices be heard. Great vid man. You have my subscription.
zeekymoss11 1 month ago
I'm a big Pacquiao fan (or I used to be) and I 110% agree with you.
tayag2003 1 month ago
@tayag2003 Thanks for listening to it all. Lot to say, you know?
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
GREAT VID, I WATCHED THE WHOLE THING :-)
JollyGreenGiant71 1 month ago
@JollyGreenGiant71 No doubt. I appreciate that you took the time out.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
27mins so far for me lol Awesome Stuff!!!!
916wickedloc 1 month ago
@916wickedloc thanks for listening to the vid. Had to release some frustration.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
25 mins and still here !!! great breakdown...
PGKING911 1 month ago
@PGKING911 man wea u been at lol
PhoenixEdwards 1 month ago
@PhoenixEdwards HAHA
PGKING911 1 month ago
@PhoenixEdwards Taking care of kids bro. Hard to pop vids out consistently anymore.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
@ashyknuckles1 shit i feel u son...but ay man...dis sum real shit tho...nobody be callin out pacs ppl on nothin...everybody ask floyd when he gon fight pac...SAME ANSWER man "when he takes the tests" ppl like o pac said he agreed...but floyd said when pac takes em...not when he agree to em...and nobody ever asked pacquiao how soon he was ready 2 start takin em at all man...n im surprised how many people believin arum instead of lookin at what actually goin on...media killin boxin more each day
PhoenixEdwards 1 month ago
Excellent Breakdown, This is a Masterpiece
slideways100 1 month ago
thumbs up
hdboxing1 1 month ago
good vid thank u for giving infro to these pactards
hdboxing1 1 month ago
@hdboxing1 no doubt.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
@ ashknuckles1 that was 30:06 of the truth.....THANK YOU!
octopuspick 1 month ago
Don't forget Zahir Raheem after Raheem smashed Morales before the 2nd Pacquiao/Morales fight. Lampley n Stewart said he better stay away from Raheem n he did.
1bxbomber 1 month ago
@1bxbomber Yeah Raheem was pretty hot around that time. Never given a real chance to shine, especially after they robbed him against Rocky Juarez.
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago
Great vid
MrIronbo 1 month ago
@MrIronbo thx
ashyknuckles1 1 month ago