Thank you so much for making this video. Whenever I discover interesting poltical commentary I try to seek out someone with an opposing point of view and hear their side of the story. So once again, thank you for convincing me that LiberalViewer is correct, he couldn't have done a better job himself.
bill ayers is a fucking terrorist, a solid left wing nut terrorist, there are some terrorists on the right, there are some muslim terrorists but the vast majoirtiy of both muslims and ppl on the right are not terrorists. The same cannot be said of left wing nuts, every left wing nut is terrorist
You're an extremeist, self-centered, piece of sh** right-winger! this is the reason the USA is on the decline. You and all who think like you are fucked up asshole who make the most unbelievable invalid point....
@Bakah978 YOUR A RETARD, the reason America is on the decline is because democrats and republicans in dc have been systematical destroying the middle class with free trade agreements that make it impossible to protect the American worker from cheap overseas labor and provide an incentive for big business to go else where, quit being a dumb cunt open your eyes and use ur brain dumb mother fucker, or is that 2 much 2 ask of some1 with a 3rd grade education, start being a person not a stupid pawn
No, that's not why; it's because the Constitution CANNOT be enforced against the fed BY the fed-- and that includes the voting majority who ELECT them. That's pretty much the big "no duh," as Jefferson and Madison pointed it out more than 200 years ago; rather, it can only be enforced by nullification and secession. That's why Lincoln is the one to blame, since he ended these through mass-murder and military dictatorship over the people of the individual states.
@Bakah978 the USA is on the decline because the Constitution CANNOT be enforced against the fed BY the fed-- and that includes the voting majority who ELECT them. That's pretty much the big "no duh," as Jefferson and Madison pointed it out more than 200 years ago; rather, it can only be enforced by nullification and secession. That's why Lincoln is the one to blame, since he ended these through mass-murder and military dictatorship over the people of the individual states.
@mikeyboy236 Next time? So you are following me around on YT nerd? Originality is over rated. It started in grade school when the lib teacher told your mom that "Mikeyboy is a very bright boy with alot of potential" when in actuality you are a dumbass.
@SovereignStatesman yea that goes with out saying, but it just seems that in the US at least it seams we only care to point out one sides bias and not admit to bias on the whole of the media
That's because the media isn't about informing, but CONTROLLING.
Both parties believe in elite hierarchy where the people are just rabble to be controlled through lies and propaganda, not informed of the facts in order to make their OWN decisions. They think the people are too stupid to be trusted with democracy, and so the self-appointed media elites and politicians have taken it upon themselves.
That's how it's done in Washington, ever since the Lincoln Administration.
@SovereignStatesman yea and the internet is not any better for as much of the real truth is out there you'll find just as much Media control as you find crack pot theories
Do you even know wat that faggot lee is talking about. Hes just bashing the leftist radical policies that he doesnt like. You on the other hand are just blabing on about government policies that fucked up this country. Are the same ones lee supports. The same ones fox supports. All obama is trying to do is fix those problems. And your just ignorant if you dont think bush wasted all of our extra cash on a useless war.
I should say that Lee probably does have a bias against Liberal Viewer.
The problem isn't really bias. If I see someone using consistently flawed arguments, then I develop the bias that they're going to be consistently flawed. The question is whether or not I seek to determine whether or not they actually ARE flawed each time I check their arguments.
So really, the question is of blind bias - and when someone makes multiple videos showing "bias," which turn out to be illegitimate arguments,
An argument can have a base, even when examples are not given. Similarly, it's possible to give examples while your argument is baseless.
For example, your argument against me contains the premise that liberal viewer is either unbiased, or not unreasonably biased (for that's the only way I could be wrong) - but you haven't bothered to give examples.
First, I never said anything denying that a arguement can't have a base without it being present in context. You are blindly assuming I was talking about all arguements, but I was merely talking about your previous comment.
The second part of your comment also displays your flawed reading conprehension. There is no premise to my arguement to suggest that I was going against your opinion of liberal viewer being bias. If I were to say I agreed with you, it wouldn't contadict my previous arguement, as I was only suggesting you attempt to provide support to your arguement, since you failed to list any supporting evidence.
Then you should have simply suggested that I provide some evidence, or take the step yourself to provide evidence (if you do agree with me) - instead of giving a flawed argument about the baselessness of my own post.
(aka.... you complete sidetracked the argument by making an unneeded nitpick. Clearly "bushonomics" needed no clarification of my position, else he'd have asked for it. Congratulations, you've wasted both of our time with this.)
Ur analyst of the liberalviewer is about as indepth and fact worthy as fox news. Like seriously dude get some facts for u start making outragist claims. The nixionian tactics was fucking hiliarous. You sound just like fox.
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Another fail, Lee.
Liberaviewer has made ~100 videos, some better than others, showing various instances of Fox bias over the last ~3 years. Any YT watcher can go and look at them and decide for themselves.
Right at the end you bash media matters and brave new films, calling them "extreme leftist hack organizations that lie on a constant basis." Then you end the video!?!? WTH?
If they lie constantly, seems like it would be pretty easy to make some vids on them, or maybe have some links?
I wouldn't call it a failure. Lee rightfully pointed out that LiberalViewer shows extraordinary bias against Fox News. LiberalViewer has given a few legitimate critiques of Fox News, but most of his videos have failed to show any real problem on behalf of Fox.
You're saying that LibViewer shows bias against Fox, by attempting to show that Fox has a bias. Does this mean that all of Lee's LV videos are examples of Lee's bias against LV? Does that really make sense?
It isn't LV (or HTWW either) that claims to be fair & balanced, claims to do hard hitting journalism on most of its programs, claims to be a news organization.
Making those claims opens them to challenge, right? Are all challengers therefore biased?
I can only conclude that they are either blindly biased in a particular area, or they are incapable of using better logic/objectivity, etc.
In this case, HTWW mentions that Liberal Viewer claimed to have checked out MSNBC, and found nothing wrong with them. I haven't yet found the original quote, but - assuming HTWW is right in the quote, this shows very clear *blind* bias on behalf of the Liberal Viewer. I haven't decided on HTWW. Thanks for the chance to clarify.
yes. let's have the government tax away half our income, under threat of going to jail, so that we can give it to a high school drop out working at mcdonalds. oh joy!
One way or another you are going to give them one way or another. but personally I like my socialist ideas, like the Police... Fire... EMS.... Clean water... you may not like them but meh ill deal with them.
oh yes, you mean those socialist policies which are handled by local government rather cheaply? Yes, I'm sure that is like a federal health insurance company and regulations costing trillions of dollars...
@albyiscool there are federally run social programs that are ran efficiently, but in the end the healthcare system will end up like medicare, It is majority funded by the feds, and mismanaged by the local government. This is something that will be considered a state responsibility.
its funny how you bring up medicare, which is bleeding money, growing to be more expensive than anybody predicted, and right now it looks like we are stuck with it, because once you have the government giving handouts, people become dependant and you must keep that entitlement indefinitely.
Whats even more funny is the reason its hemorrhaging money is the way its managed, IE the state manages it and the federal government foots the bill... hmm lets see you give a kid a free car and the kid trashes the car because he has no idea what the value is. its a universal constant.
and you want a good example of the federal government running something, VA care... routinely is under budget. O SNAP the federal government CAN run a medical system who would have thunk it!
Veteran's benefits are not an entitlement, they are earned, first of all. Second of all that is not a medical system, it is a system of paying for medical insurance, and it is for a fraction of the population. But when the federal government wants to cover a slightly larger population- the old or the poor, they fail miserably. Yet they want to cover EVERYBODY?
Helping your neighbor isn't evil at all. In fact, Capitalism supports the idea of helping your neighbor, because it makes sense.
However, the socialist idea has nothing to do with helping your neighbor - it has to do with taking money from the hard workers, and using third parties to distribute it to the lesser fortunate/lazy. It's a system which discourages hard work, and which punishes entrepreneurs. History shows that capitalism and community ties is far superior to socialism.
same thing goes with capitalism. two sides of the same coin.
If you want proof of capitalism working on its own its pretty simple lets look at the current healthcare system oh wait yeah broken, How about the power grid before the government stepped in and regulated ConEd, no wait yeah that didn't work government had to step in, and you know the economy is comming out all on its own thanks to capitalism, no wait we gave the banks trillions in charity... yep capitalism works...
The current health care system is "broken" BECAUSE of government interference, and multiple regulations for things that the health insurer must cover when not even the payers want that coverage. Bad example.
Aaaaaand the banks failed because they took enormous risks in a deregulated environment, and acted as if the government would clean up their mess (...which is did, unfortunately) - that's an example of government rewarding bad practices, nothing more.
Oh yeah. And the powergrid is currently outdated and falling apart. Strike three for government regulation.
Once again, history shows that the entrepreneurial spirit triumphs the state in improving the country and keeping things running well.
The only use gov. has is in breaking up monopolies, and in protecting our basic, fundamental rights. As far as economic is concerned, the government has been nothing but disastrous in it's policies.
the power grid is out dated and falling apart thanks to greedy companies not reinvesting into the grid, before regulation most of rual america never had power and wasnt getting it. in a successful capitalism the banks would have never got "too big to fail" and health care is in the mess it is in because healthy people wont get insurance because it costs too much. do a little research on how the power grid was when it was left to the free market. see if you would like to pay a preregulation bill
The only reason our infastructure is outdated is cus bush decided to spend all the countrys money on a useless mismanaged war that has left us an enourmous dept. And please spell chek me again like i give a fuck if i am spelling my words right in a youtube comment ur a fucking joke u christain fool.
"Cus bush decided to spend all the countrys money.."
Assuming that you're correct - that means that the problem is that "Bush" aka, "the government" spent all the money, and caused the problem. This fits perfectly with Lee Doren's argument.
You call me a Christian fool, but come on, of the two of us - who do you think the rest of the youtubers see as reasonable and rational? Calling me a fool or a joke really doesn't change the facts. See ya :-*
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Anyone who watches ten minutes of Fox knows its total bullshit. They covered a story to say that the forming of the EU was illegal, and a threat to the world, and most importantly the US! And they made out that we were trying to take over the world! Noo... we're just trying to unify a group of countries! They also covered a story saying Amsterdam had high crime rates because weed was legal, but by percentage of people they have some of the lowest crime in Europe! O'Reilly's a dick, Fox is shite!
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Ok, Mr.Doren, I get it. The Obama Administration unfairly freezes out FOX News. On the other hand, FOX News unfairly cast Obama in a consistently negative light, too. Personally, I'd like to see Obama in an interview on FOX News, but if I were him, I wouldn't go either. Compromising with a brick wall ends in a stalemate every time. ...and no, I am not a liberal, but a centrist.
Looks like the insane assylum got its internet lab working. I can see the socialist goons decided to pay a visit with all these vote downs and tantrums in the comment section.
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@HowtheWorldWorks- This is a lot of bullshit. You've given NO evidence to say that LiberalViewer has "distorted" facts yet LV has proven time and time again the short-comings and downright stupidity of the right-wing Republican party.
But hey you're republican so I don't expect you to know what "distort" means. Or freedom, or anything having to do with progressing.
What I don't get about you republicans, is that you're so wrong yet really think you're right. You have a disease.
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Having watched all of the relevant information unfortunately I would have to say that This is how the world works is more than sensationalism without a basis of fact or arguement, fearmongering and rudeness go no way in creating an arguement if your facts are rebuked remove the videos? I cannot understand why these are still up?
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One can't be left of there own policies, the policy makes the politician, & once again he ran as a lefty, not a moderate, when campaigning he didn't hold many moderate stances, SO here are some of his moderate policies, cap&trade, stem cell research, Agreeing not to place a permanent military presence in Iraq?
You're turn show one thing Obama's done that is to the far left, not moderate left, that he didn't make part of his campaign platform?
Cap and trade, stem cell research and military presence in Iraq,Afghanistan,abortion, bank bailouts, GM takeover. Everything. Now go away because I almost didn't read your comment on your user name alone.
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I hope you're not really that stupid, if you are please sterilize yourself, because most of those things are centrist positions, the remainder are not in any way an issue of political philosophy but military strategy & wouldn't be a problem if it weren't for certain people on the right, except the GM takeover which a leftest would have made it a public company by now, & abortion which your mother should have had, & non of Obama's current policies have affected.
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Dear only seen 1 bush,
It is nice to see you actually debate your position with real arguments. Oh no wait you just attack people and call them stupid because you have no real ideals of your own. Perhaps you should at least read a book on how to attack liberals. Wait maybe you have and this is what they tell you to do.
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Golly gee bush1tman, You sure are smart I wish I could be as cool as you. To bad I am not a inbred, uneducated, and close minded redneck. Damn my parents for teaching me to keep a open my mind, and to get an education. I guess I will just never be as cool as you. :(
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Sir:
You're embarrassing yourself and the sad part is you don't even know it. If you're going to argue that someone is distorting the facts, actually have facts to back up your argument. Please, try again.
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HowTheWorldWorks. It is time to stop exposing. You clearly don't have the theoretical background to commentate on these subjects.
LiberalViewer is trashing you so badly that you hurt your own cause, and all conservatives aswell. There are no "Distorts the Facts" present here. If you are going to make a case, do it more professional, or don't bother at all. You can't convince anyone with this "this is how the world works in my head" talk!
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Lee seriously,
Put the crack pipe down.
If fox news exposed Obama's leftest policies, he would thank them, America voted for a Liberal candidate, & as hard as it is for so many on the right to understand, Lefties disapprove of Obama because he is too moderate.
So to recap people whom vote for a candidate who runs on a liberal platform, want a liberal president, the majority of America voted for Obama as a lefty, so exposing leftest policies would only help Obama's image
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HowTheWorldWorks, your attempt to attack LiberalViewer's arguments in this segment were poor. Your points were like that of an untrained debate team making attacks with no substance, two ships passing through the night. Your youtube argument failed to solidify your titles acclimations of LiberalViewer distorting the facts. LiberalViewer on the other hand defends his work efficiently and accurately with each of your faulty points provided by his url due to the limited space provided on youtube
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Are you serious that Media Matters is a leftist hack organization and Fox news is an honest news network expressing no bias? Whoa, You need to take a ride on the re-examine my feelings of intellectual superiority train. Both have bias's dumby! Even you have to know that you have a bias? But your dumb enough to be sure your bias is the Absolute Truth. I imagine Yahweh handing you his new laws and when you open it there is a copy of Atlas Shrugged. Talk about a hack.
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This whole thing is more of a rant and namecalling than a debate. I was hoping to find some real opposing views in this video but i really can't find any, or at least nothing that's really supported.
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@GKCanman Agreed< i'm done following HTWW. It's not that I don't like to hear opposing viewpoints I just want to hear them from peoplewho understand what an argument and evidence are. Calling someone a Marxist isn't my idea of a zinger. Proving that they are is.
Despite the title of this video, nowhere in it do you show me distorting any facts, deliberately or otherwise. You can see a detailed description of the mistakes you made in this video on a webpage I created for that purpose at
tinyurl(.)com/HTWWMR9
Don't forget to remove the parentheses when pasting that address into your browser.
I hope that helps clear up your misunderstanding and
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@LiberalViewer It meast be nice some people have the time not contributeing anything too YouTube and just make pointless remarks about your videos. Like a very smart person once said "Internet fighting is like competeing in the special olympics, even if you win you are still a retard!"
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You argue over stupid little points with the LiberalViewer that do NOT matter. Mean while you ignore any true political commentary about the current status of our economic, and foreign situation in the world, and what your party is doing to change it. Your time would be better spent focusing on items of real importance than dissecting some one else videos. As far as I am concerned you are just a joke.
Really are you serious? You can not honestly say that Fox news is not bias in their coverage? There are tons of example of them doing so. After watching all of your anti-LiberalViewer vids, I have to admit you are just a bias idiot your self. Whatever happened to people having a open mind in this country? Even your pill popping racist buddy Rush Limbaugh has admitted that the Fox news is a conservative slanted news network.
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Lee's conclusions are unfounded and he has PR and News clips mixed up. How the hell can anyone be so misleading. HowTheWorldWorks is broken at the core.
I would like to know if you believe if Fox news does, be it deliberatily or not , distort their viewers with some of their shows? Not being able to watch Fox news where i live, there are many clips of where it seems really clear that Fox news isnt always ''correct'' to say the least. In that context, how is Liberal Viewer misleading (except for the obvious cynisism every now and again?
Umm.. You make no sense. Dunn wasnt talking about news when she was talking about putting their stuff up somewhere without any reporter getting between there. You do see that right? (this whole vid looks like your the distorting the facts) And whats up with this extreme left thing? Your like straight from foxnews, you dont even know what socialism means.
I appreciate what you're trying to do here, liberal viewer is guilty of distortion and does film with a point of view. However you're not doing it well. your videos are hacky and make you seem like a crackpot rather than enforcing your point. Do better or don't do at all.
I appreciate your disputing the nonsense posted by LiberalViewer. I found their videos to be edited to a fault to promote the far left agenda, without substance and based in fantasy land so I never viewed another one of there videos. Keep up the good work!
Howtheworldworks makes another great point, after all, what would we do without Fox? Seeing Barack Obama compared to Hitler on a constant basis makes it the only reliable news source left
@rectaltsunami He's compared to Hitler because his policies are the same as Hitler's. Whereas the left will go around and say things like AHHHH!!! YOU DONT BELIEVE IN LETTING WOMEN MURDER THEIR UNBORN CHILD!!! YOUR WORSE THAN HITLER AHHHH!!!! YOU OPPOSE GUN CONTROL AND HATE SPEECH LAWS! HITLER!! YOU DONT LIKE PAYING TAXES! NAZI! RACIST! AHHHHH!!!
All I'm saying is any president can be compared to Hitler on multiple levels, I didn't see Fox making the same comparisons to bush, Fox is just as bad as msnbc or cnn
fox news is worse than msnbc. I pretty much only watch fox, and there isnt a single liberal host anymore (since hannity and colmes). MSNBC at least has that Morning Joe guy that is a republican. Might be more, i dont watch it enough.
I havent seen much, if any bias out of CNN as they have a good mix of both liberals and conservatives.
BBC is a mixed bag? you realize all European countries are ENTIRELY liberal. Barack Obama is a downright conservative compared to the rest of the advanced nations of the world.
You know i wish i watched more of the other news stations so i could refute you. But im not pompous enough to try to say i know better because there is only so much news i can watch in day. But the logical side of me says they cant all be liberal. And i doubt you watch them all either.
@mark1m, hey! Colmes still has a radio show on Fox radio. And also Geraldo Rivera, to me, is pretty liberal. So I think Fox does try to maintain some sort of balance. But that's my opinion.
Well done! Liberal media outlets like CNN and ABC ETC do nothing except sing Obama's praises. Meanwhile, one network decides to expose Obama's flaws and all of a sudden there's a conservative bias.
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And when Bush was in office, FOX did nothing but sing his praises. The problem with FOX is not that they "point out Obama's flaws" it's that they make up fake controversies about him to scare people with. Remember the "czars" expose? Turns out there have been czars in many admin. before Obama, including the Bush Admin. When it was Bush, there wasn't a single word about them. When it's Obama, it's some brand new communist plot to force Americans to accept big government.
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It's pretty presumptuous of you to assume you know exactly what I do and do not watch. I did see FOX condemn policies on immigration enacted under the Bush administration, particularly on the O'Reilly factor; I did not see them condemn Bush himself, in contrast to how quick they are to blame Obama and his administration for everything that is going wrong in America. I'm not saying the other networks aren't guilty of the same sin, I'm simply calling a spade a spade.
I saw Fox condemn Bush all the time. He is a traitor. He helped ruin this country. Not as much as Obama is now or the way Clinton Bush 1 and Jimmy Carter did but none the less Fox pointed it out.
The tittle of this video is ironic considering how much Doren distorts facts. Fox News is nothing more than a propaganda outlet and this douche supports their insane agenda. What an idiot.
There IS no such thing as objective news coverage, so this whole discussion is silly. Most media lean to the left, and fox leans to the right. Whats the problem?. I personally would love, if had a news station like that in my country. Here all stations and newspapers are leaning to the left, even the ones that are called right wing. Go figure.
#4. David Axelrod did not say that their goal was to make sure other news organizations don't act like Fox, mainly because other news organizations already know not to act like them if they want to be considered a legitimate news organization, not only by the administration, but by the public at large. Axelrod said that other news organizations ought not to refer to Fox as a legitimate news organization, which they are not. There is ample evidence of this straight from Fox.
Hey, genius, Fox News is considered a legitimate news organization by the public at large. That's the very reason why they continue to trounce the network Anita Dunn was spouting her BS on. And I doubt they care what the administration thinks about them. The more the White House whines and tries to stifle Fox News, the higher their ratings go up.
There is ample evidence proving that you don't have enough knowledge to comment on the subjects you do.
No, it's not. And FYI, Neilson shows Fox is continuously slipping in the ratings. Just because a network is watched does not legitimize it's content. People watch Nickelodeon, does that make it a legitimate news source? No. So if you are going to make the claim that the public at large believes they are legitimate, then show some real evidence. Otherwise, my evidence, ie the current administration and their continued support on the issue, stands.
Yeah, sure they are. I guess that's probably why shows like O'Reilly actually compete with and sometimes beat network news now. Your evidence that Fox is not legitimate news is the current administration? You are a moron.
God is LV a dishonest moron. Thank you so much HTWW for ripping him apart.
TheDavoo 1 week ago
@HowTheWorldWorks
Thank you so much for making this video. Whenever I discover interesting poltical commentary I try to seek out someone with an opposing point of view and hear their side of the story. So once again, thank you for convincing me that LiberalViewer is correct, he couldn't have done a better job himself.
DownThereForDancing 1 month ago
@DownThereForDancing
If this convinces you that LiberalViewer is correct, you've got your head further up your ass than he does.
SovereignStatesman 4 weeks ago
bill ayers is a fucking terrorist, a solid left wing nut terrorist, there are some terrorists on the right, there are some muslim terrorists but the vast majoirtiy of both muslims and ppl on the right are not terrorists. The same cannot be said of left wing nuts, every left wing nut is terrorist
tsharpmac420 5 months ago
You're an extremeist, self-centered, piece of sh** right-winger! this is the reason the USA is on the decline. You and all who think like you are fucked up asshole who make the most unbelievable invalid point....
Bakah978 8 months ago
@Bakah978 YOUR A RETARD, the reason America is on the decline is because democrats and republicans in dc have been systematical destroying the middle class with free trade agreements that make it impossible to protect the American worker from cheap overseas labor and provide an incentive for big business to go else where, quit being a dumb cunt open your eyes and use ur brain dumb mother fucker, or is that 2 much 2 ask of some1 with a 3rd grade education, start being a person not a stupid pawn
tsharpmac420 5 months ago
@tsharpmac420
No, that's not why; it's because the Constitution CANNOT be enforced against the fed BY the fed-- and that includes the voting majority who ELECT them. That's pretty much the big "no duh," as Jefferson and Madison pointed it out more than 200 years ago; rather, it can only be enforced by nullification and secession. That's why Lincoln is the one to blame, since he ended these through mass-murder and military dictatorship over the people of the individual states.
SovereignStatesman 4 weeks ago
@Bakah978 It's nice to see yet another leftist showing how open-minded, debate-driven, and tolerant of other viewpoints the left really is.
Redmanfms 3 months ago
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@Bakah978 the USA is on the decline because the Constitution CANNOT be enforced against the fed BY the fed-- and that includes the voting majority who ELECT them. That's pretty much the big "no duh," as Jefferson and Madison pointed it out more than 200 years ago; rather, it can only be enforced by nullification and secession. That's why Lincoln is the one to blame, since he ended these through mass-murder and military dictatorship over the people of the individual states.
SovereignStatesman 4 weeks ago
You are an idiot who makes no valid points. You're the best recruiting tool for the left ever!
If its this easy to get subscriers and views for your videos I think I might make my own channel! I thought it was hard!
cisseshairdresser 9 months ago
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TheConservatveLibral 9 months ago
LiberalViewer's always come off to me as an ideological moron who sees one single point of view and considers all others unequivocally wrong.
SickBritKid 10 months ago 3
know how to spot an elitist in a crowd? you can hang your coat on their nose.
kevduck1 1 year ago
know how to spot an elitist in a crowd? you can hang your coat no their nose.
kevduck1 1 year ago
@KidSheIeen HEY!
Whats wrong with crack?!?!?
As.shole
mikeyboy236 1 year ago
@mikeyboy236 Nothing. It provided a good track for the brown stain containing your dad's best dna into the sheets and mattress.
KidSheIeen 1 year ago
@KidSheIeen At least try to be original next time okay. Lines from "Full metal Jacket' are strait out of the fucking 90s.
mikeyboy236 1 year ago
@mikeyboy236 Next time? So you are following me around on YT nerd? Originality is over rated. It started in grade school when the lib teacher told your mom that "Mikeyboy is a very bright boy with alot of potential" when in actuality you are a dumbass.
KidSheIeen 1 year ago
Id like to see those lies MM and BNF have made? Please show us one lie or distortion theyve made before you call them "extreme leftist hack orgs".
And btw, extreme left? Neither are extreme left. You keep on "distorting the facts"!
whirlii 1 year ago
Liberal viewer is communist propaganda.
cozyfoxstudio 1 year ago
What's with all the ad hominem? Quit bitching and prove Lee wrong. I guess all you people can do is slander him, huh?
elvishairdude12 1 year ago
Howthisdorkworks is such a sly-Fox "news" flunky!
CandJCuesta 1 year ago
keep fighting the good fight
503mindst 1 year ago
a simple take on this is your saying fox news is not bias?
smithbrass 1 year ago
This guy's idea of fact distortion is when people don't call others "Marxist leftist radical hacks".
He has no idea what facts are.
TheFeralzebra 1 year ago
@TheFeralzebra my thoughts exactly.
Besides, americans dont even seem to know what socialism or "marxism" really is. Obama is as far from leftist as you one can be.
Greetings from the free world o/
whirlii 1 year ago
why cant we admit that all media has bias and just shut up about it
henshinman 1 year ago 4
@henshinman in america maybe. Norwegian media has no bias and reporters NEVER give out personal opinions. That's the way news should be.
cl1mbat1ze 1 year ago
@henshinman
Because we must SPEAK UP against ALL bias, or else we're taken to agree.
SovereignStatesman 4 weeks ago
@SovereignStatesman yea that goes with out saying, but it just seems that in the US at least it seams we only care to point out one sides bias and not admit to bias on the whole of the media
henshinman 3 weeks ago
@henshinman
That's because the media isn't about informing, but CONTROLLING.
Both parties believe in elite hierarchy where the people are just rabble to be controlled through lies and propaganda, not informed of the facts in order to make their OWN decisions. They think the people are too stupid to be trusted with democracy, and so the self-appointed media elites and politicians have taken it upon themselves.
That's how it's done in Washington, ever since the Lincoln Administration.
SovereignStatesman 3 weeks ago
@SovereignStatesman yea and the internet is not any better for as much of the real truth is out there you'll find just as much Media control as you find crack pot theories
henshinman 3 weeks ago
@henshinman Yeah if you don't know how to FACT-CHECK.
Dumbass.
SovereignStatesman 3 weeks ago
@SovereignStatesman + 1 person who isnt able to tell sarcasm(i.e. you )
henshinman 3 weeks ago
@henshinman
Your comment didn't convey any sarcasm.
SovereignStatesman 3 weeks ago
Obama is acting like Nixon with the media
GovernmentSham912 1 year ago
Do you even know wat that faggot lee is talking about. Hes just bashing the leftist radical policies that he doesnt like. You on the other hand are just blabing on about government policies that fucked up this country. Are the same ones lee supports. The same ones fox supports. All obama is trying to do is fix those problems. And your just ignorant if you dont think bush wasted all of our extra cash on a useless war.
f0rumrr 1 year ago
I should say that Lee probably does have a bias against Liberal Viewer.
The problem isn't really bias. If I see someone using consistently flawed arguments, then I develop the bias that they're going to be consistently flawed. The question is whether or not I seek to determine whether or not they actually ARE flawed each time I check their arguments.
So really, the question is of blind bias - and when someone makes multiple videos showing "bias," which turn out to be illegitimate arguments,
theflyingjbird 1 year ago
@theflyingjbird
Your comment was completely baseless because you didn't even give one example of being "bias."
Just take the time to list the "flawed" arguements.
MrPatrioticUSA 1 year ago
Incorrect.
An argument can have a base, even when examples are not given. Similarly, it's possible to give examples while your argument is baseless.
For example, your argument against me contains the premise that liberal viewer is either unbiased, or not unreasonably biased (for that's the only way I could be wrong) - but you haven't bothered to give examples.
Your own argument undermines itself.
theflyingjbird 1 year ago
@theflyingjbird
Your reading conprehension is flawed.
First, I never said anything denying that a arguement can't have a base without it being present in context. You are blindly assuming I was talking about all arguements, but I was merely talking about your previous comment.
MrPatrioticUSA 1 year ago
(Continued)
The second part of your comment also displays your flawed reading conprehension. There is no premise to my arguement to suggest that I was going against your opinion of liberal viewer being bias. If I were to say I agreed with you, it wouldn't contadict my previous arguement, as I was only suggesting you attempt to provide support to your arguement, since you failed to list any supporting evidence.
MrPatrioticUSA 1 year ago
Then you should have simply suggested that I provide some evidence, or take the step yourself to provide evidence (if you do agree with me) - instead of giving a flawed argument about the baselessness of my own post.
(aka.... you complete sidetracked the argument by making an unneeded nitpick. Clearly "bushonomics" needed no clarification of my position, else he'd have asked for it. Congratulations, you've wasted both of our time with this.)
theflyingjbird 1 year ago
Ur analyst of the liberalviewer is about as indepth and fact worthy as fox news. Like seriously dude get some facts for u start making outragist claims. The nixionian tactics was fucking hiliarous. You sound just like fox.
f0rumrr 1 year ago
@f0rumrr
"Your"
"analysis"
"in depth"
"get some facts before you start.."
"outrageous"
"Nixonian"
I would take "You sound just like fox" to be a compliment.
Are you a fourth grader? Do some research. It's obvious that HTWW has done his own.
theflyingjbird 1 year ago
not to mention during the election the liberal media talked 80% about obama and 20% on mcain if that
gundamfreak4 1 year ago
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bhstwo 1 year ago
our Founding Fathers said without freedom of the press we'd walk like sheep to the slaughter by our own government
BTW
Media Matters is owned by NWO globalist George Soros
GovernmentSham912 2 years ago
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Another fail, Lee.
Liberaviewer has made ~100 videos, some better than others, showing various instances of Fox bias over the last ~3 years. Any YT watcher can go and look at them and decide for themselves.
Right at the end you bash media matters and brave new films, calling them "extreme leftist hack organizations that lie on a constant basis." Then you end the video!?!? WTH?
If they lie constantly, seems like it would be pretty easy to make some vids on them, or maybe have some links?
bushonomics 2 years ago
@bushonomics
I wouldn't call it a failure. Lee rightfully pointed out that LiberalViewer shows extraordinary bias against Fox News. LiberalViewer has given a few legitimate critiques of Fox News, but most of his videos have failed to show any real problem on behalf of Fox.
theflyingjbird 1 year ago
Well now hold on a minute here.
You're saying that LibViewer shows bias against Fox, by attempting to show that Fox has a bias. Does this mean that all of Lee's LV videos are examples of Lee's bias against LV? Does that really make sense?
It isn't LV (or HTWW either) that claims to be fair & balanced, claims to do hard hitting journalism on most of its programs, claims to be a news organization.
Making those claims opens them to challenge, right? Are all challengers therefore biased?
bushonomics 1 year ago 3
I can only conclude that they are either blindly biased in a particular area, or they are incapable of using better logic/objectivity, etc.
In this case, HTWW mentions that Liberal Viewer claimed to have checked out MSNBC, and found nothing wrong with them. I haven't yet found the original quote, but - assuming HTWW is right in the quote, this shows very clear *blind* bias on behalf of the Liberal Viewer. I haven't decided on HTWW. Thanks for the chance to clarify.
theflyingjbird 1 year ago
OMG NOT SOCALISTS, HELPING MY NEIGHBOR IS SOO EVIL. lets stop them now!
KusuriRX 2 years ago
yes. let's have the government tax away half our income, under threat of going to jail, so that we can give it to a high school drop out working at mcdonalds. oh joy!
Albyiscool 2 years ago 3
One way or another you are going to give them one way or another. but personally I like my socialist ideas, like the Police... Fire... EMS.... Clean water... you may not like them but meh ill deal with them.
KusuriRX 2 years ago
@KusuriRX
oh yes, you mean those socialist policies which are handled by local government rather cheaply? Yes, I'm sure that is like a federal health insurance company and regulations costing trillions of dollars...
Albyiscool 2 years ago
@albyiscool there are federally run social programs that are ran efficiently, but in the end the healthcare system will end up like medicare, It is majority funded by the feds, and mismanaged by the local government. This is something that will be considered a state responsibility.
KusuriRX 2 years ago
like what?
its funny how you bring up medicare, which is bleeding money, growing to be more expensive than anybody predicted, and right now it looks like we are stuck with it, because once you have the government giving handouts, people become dependant and you must keep that entitlement indefinitely.
Albyiscool 2 years ago
Whats even more funny is the reason its hemorrhaging money is the way its managed, IE the state manages it and the federal government foots the bill... hmm lets see you give a kid a free car and the kid trashes the car because he has no idea what the value is. its a universal constant.
KusuriRX 2 years ago
@KusuriRX
and yet the federal government still wants to add another entitlement on top of that?
And yet you still bring up that hilarious argument of "well what about fire..."
I love that argument because it means you liberals either want government everywhere or nowhere...fascism or anarchy.
Albyiscool 2 years ago 2
and you want a good example of the federal government running something, VA care... routinely is under budget. O SNAP the federal government CAN run a medical system who would have thunk it!
KusuriRX 2 years ago
@KusuriRX
Veteran's benefits are not an entitlement, they are earned, first of all. Second of all that is not a medical system, it is a system of paying for medical insurance, and it is for a fraction of the population. But when the federal government wants to cover a slightly larger population- the old or the poor, they fail miserably. Yet they want to cover EVERYBODY?
Albyiscool 2 years ago 2
Helping your neighbor isn't evil at all. In fact, Capitalism supports the idea of helping your neighbor, because it makes sense.
However, the socialist idea has nothing to do with helping your neighbor - it has to do with taking money from the hard workers, and using third parties to distribute it to the lesser fortunate/lazy. It's a system which discourages hard work, and which punishes entrepreneurs. History shows that capitalism and community ties is far superior to socialism.
theflyingjbird 1 year ago
same thing goes with capitalism. two sides of the same coin.
If you want proof of capitalism working on its own its pretty simple lets look at the current healthcare system oh wait yeah broken, How about the power grid before the government stepped in and regulated ConEd, no wait yeah that didn't work government had to step in, and you know the economy is comming out all on its own thanks to capitalism, no wait we gave the banks trillions in charity... yep capitalism works...
KusuriRX 1 year ago
The current health care system is "broken" BECAUSE of government interference, and multiple regulations for things that the health insurer must cover when not even the payers want that coverage. Bad example.
Aaaaaand the banks failed because they took enormous risks in a deregulated environment, and acted as if the government would clean up their mess (...which is did, unfortunately) - that's an example of government rewarding bad practices, nothing more.
theflyingjbird 1 year ago
Oh yeah. And the powergrid is currently outdated and falling apart. Strike three for government regulation.
Once again, history shows that the entrepreneurial spirit triumphs the state in improving the country and keeping things running well.
The only use gov. has is in breaking up monopolies, and in protecting our basic, fundamental rights. As far as economic is concerned, the government has been nothing but disastrous in it's policies.
theflyingjbird 1 year ago
the power grid is out dated and falling apart thanks to greedy companies not reinvesting into the grid, before regulation most of rual america never had power and wasnt getting it. in a successful capitalism the banks would have never got "too big to fail" and health care is in the mess it is in because healthy people wont get insurance because it costs too much. do a little research on how the power grid was when it was left to the free market. see if you would like to pay a preregulation bill
KusuriRX 1 year ago
The only reason our infastructure is outdated is cus bush decided to spend all the countrys money on a useless mismanaged war that has left us an enourmous dept. And please spell chek me again like i give a fuck if i am spelling my words right in a youtube comment ur a fucking joke u christain fool.
f0rumrr 1 year ago
"Cus bush decided to spend all the countrys money.."
Assuming that you're correct - that means that the problem is that "Bush" aka, "the government" spent all the money, and caused the problem. This fits perfectly with Lee Doren's argument.
You call me a Christian fool, but come on, of the two of us - who do you think the rest of the youtubers see as reasonable and rational? Calling me a fool or a joke really doesn't change the facts. See ya :-*
theflyingjbird 1 year ago
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Anyone who watches ten minutes of Fox knows its total bullshit. They covered a story to say that the forming of the EU was illegal, and a threat to the world, and most importantly the US! And they made out that we were trying to take over the world! Noo... we're just trying to unify a group of countries! They also covered a story saying Amsterdam had high crime rates because weed was legal, but by percentage of people they have some of the lowest crime in Europe! O'Reilly's a dick, Fox is shite!
dan892k7 2 years ago
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Ok, Mr.Doren, I get it. The Obama Administration unfairly freezes out FOX News. On the other hand, FOX News unfairly cast Obama in a consistently negative light, too. Personally, I'd like to see Obama in an interview on FOX News, but if I were him, I wouldn't go either. Compromising with a brick wall ends in a stalemate every time. ...and no, I am not a liberal, but a centrist.
rdpeete19861 2 years ago
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I find it funny that you have no sources to back up any of your claims against LiberalViewer. If anyone is bad about giving facts, it would be you.
doomsoth 2 years ago
@doomsoth Try watching the video to the end.
phantastickyle 2 years ago
Looks like the insane assylum got its internet lab working. I can see the socialist goons decided to pay a visit with all these vote downs and tantrums in the comment section.
phantastickyle 2 years ago
@phantastickyle Im surprised they even know how to use the internet.
dominicanjtfer 2 years ago 3
@phantastickyle Lol, exactly 216 libs have watched this video (note number of thumbs down).
jeffms2 1 year ago
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@HowtheWorldWorks- This is a lot of bullshit. You've given NO evidence to say that LiberalViewer has "distorted" facts yet LV has proven time and time again the short-comings and downright stupidity of the right-wing Republican party.
But hey you're republican so I don't expect you to know what "distort" means. Or freedom, or anything having to do with progressing.
What I don't get about you republicans, is that you're so wrong yet really think you're right. You have a disease.
piemakesmelol 2 years ago
@piemakesmelol Actually Lee's facts are accurate. look it up and get with the schtick. Otherwise go back to eating pies.
phantastickyle 2 years ago
@phantastickyle I love my pies...
Compwhiz128 1 year ago
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Having watched all of the relevant information unfortunately I would have to say that This is how the world works is more than sensationalism without a basis of fact or arguement, fearmongering and rudeness go no way in creating an arguement if your facts are rebuked remove the videos? I cannot understand why these are still up?
johnnyboy41 2 years ago
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a battle for the ages 'right-wing' vs. 'leftist' ... you can't smear fox they are a joke.
GeoliphicMedia 2 years ago
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Lee is a liar and a deluded pied piper.
billpasdmf 2 years ago
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Fuctmentality 2 years ago 2
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Surely you can find a "Fact" to support your position Lee. Another weak attempt.
scole665 2 years ago
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One can't be left of there own policies, the policy makes the politician, & once again he ran as a lefty, not a moderate, when campaigning he didn't hold many moderate stances, SO here are some of his moderate policies, cap&trade, stem cell research, Agreeing not to place a permanent military presence in Iraq?
You're turn show one thing Obama's done that is to the far left, not moderate left, that he didn't make part of his campaign platform?
Fuctmentality 2 years ago
Cap and trade, stem cell research and military presence in Iraq,Afghanistan,abortion, bank bailouts, GM takeover. Everything. Now go away because I almost didn't read your comment on your user name alone.
KidSheIeen 2 years ago 2
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I hope you're not really that stupid, if you are please sterilize yourself, because most of those things are centrist positions, the remainder are not in any way an issue of political philosophy but military strategy & wouldn't be a problem if it weren't for certain people on the right, except the GM takeover which a leftest would have made it a public company by now, & abortion which your mother should have had, & non of Obama's current policies have affected.
Fuctmentality 2 years ago
Dear Fuctinthehead, Your comment is a run on sentence. Idiot. lol
bush1tman 2 years ago 2
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Dear never seen a bush,
I am aware, & kidsheleen is still retarded for not knowing what he's talking about.
Fuctmentality 2 years ago
kidsheleen is a genius. 143 IQ
bush1tman 2 years ago
As a ratio at 9 years old?
Fuctmentality 2 years ago
Don't judge idiot.
bush1tman 2 years ago
Don't be retarded.
Fuctmentality 2 years ago
whatever you say moron.
bush1tman 2 years ago
Wow your so smart.
Fuctmentality 2 years ago
Wow you have a forehead like a drive in movie.
bush1tman 2 years ago
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Dear only seen 1 bush,
It is nice to see you actually debate your position with real arguments. Oh no wait you just attack people and call them stupid because you have no real ideals of your own. Perhaps you should at least read a book on how to attack liberals. Wait maybe you have and this is what they tell you to do.
DahaktheDragon 2 years ago
I'm writing a book on how to attack libruls. It will be a best seller. lol
bush1tman 2 years ago
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Golly gee bush1tman, You sure are smart I wish I could be as cool as you. To bad I am not a inbred, uneducated, and close minded redneck. Damn my parents for teaching me to keep a open my mind, and to get an education. I guess I will just never be as cool as you. :(
DahaktheDragon 2 years ago
No you won't ever be cool .
bush1tman 2 years ago 4
lol. rouge is the french word for red. its spelled rogue
pronaper 2 years ago
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Sir:
You're embarrassing yourself and the sad part is you don't even know it. If you're going to argue that someone is distorting the facts, actually have facts to back up your argument. Please, try again.
rdpeete19861 2 years ago
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This is soo poor.
Gustafullt 2 years ago
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HowTheWorldWorks. It is time to stop exposing. You clearly don't have the theoretical background to commentate on these subjects.
LiberalViewer is trashing you so badly that you hurt your own cause, and all conservatives aswell. There are no "Distorts the Facts" present here. If you are going to make a case, do it more professional, or don't bother at all. You can't convince anyone with this "this is how the world works in my head" talk!
Crextal 2 years ago
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Lee seriously,
Put the crack pipe down.
If fox news exposed Obama's leftest policies, he would thank them, America voted for a Liberal candidate, & as hard as it is for so many on the right to understand, Lefties disapprove of Obama because he is too moderate.
So to recap people whom vote for a candidate who runs on a liberal platform, want a liberal president, the majority of America voted for Obama as a lefty, so exposing leftest policies would only help Obama's image
Fuctmentality 2 years ago
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HowTheWorldWorks, your attempt to attack LiberalViewer's arguments in this segment were poor. Your points were like that of an untrained debate team making attacks with no substance, two ships passing through the night. Your youtube argument failed to solidify your titles acclimations of LiberalViewer distorting the facts. LiberalViewer on the other hand defends his work efficiently and accurately with each of your faulty points provided by his url due to the limited space provided on youtube
JMason1984 2 years ago
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Are you serious that Media Matters is a leftist hack organization and Fox news is an honest news network expressing no bias? Whoa, You need to take a ride on the re-examine my feelings of intellectual superiority train. Both have bias's dumby! Even you have to know that you have a bias? But your dumb enough to be sure your bias is the Absolute Truth. I imagine Yahweh handing you his new laws and when you open it there is a copy of Atlas Shrugged. Talk about a hack.
jfraas1 2 years ago
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This whole thing is more of a rant and namecalling than a debate. I was hoping to find some real opposing views in this video but i really can't find any, or at least nothing that's really supported.
GKCanman 2 years ago
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@GKCanman Agreed< i'm done following HTWW. It's not that I don't like to hear opposing viewpoints I just want to hear them from peoplewho understand what an argument and evidence are. Calling someone a Marxist isn't my idea of a zinger. Proving that they are is.
jfraas1 2 years ago
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how the world works is as bias as fox...
he's also a liar and a fool.
FOOL I SAY!
hammerfallsokk 2 years ago
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um i'm 2 min in and so far i've just heard you say that everything she and liberalviewer said was true o.o
pengubaby 2 years ago
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@pengubaby Yeah! He didn't even show LiberalViewer distorting facts! I don't know if this guy understands the meaning of fact!
jfraas1 2 years ago
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Epic debate fail.
guppy65 2 years ago
Lee,
Despite the title of this video, nowhere in it do you show me distorting any facts, deliberately or otherwise. You can see a detailed description of the mistakes you made in this video on a webpage I created for that purpose at
tinyurl(.)com/HTWWMR9
Don't forget to remove the parentheses when pasting that address into your browser.
I hope that helps clear up your misunderstanding and
thanks for the video :-)
LiberalViewer 2 years ago 31
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@LiberalViewer It meast be nice some people have the time not contributeing anything too YouTube and just make pointless remarks about your videos. Like a very smart person once said "Internet fighting is like competeing in the special olympics, even if you win you are still a retard!"
chris812125 2 years ago
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You argue over stupid little points with the LiberalViewer that do NOT matter. Mean while you ignore any true political commentary about the current status of our economic, and foreign situation in the world, and what your party is doing to change it. Your time would be better spent focusing on items of real importance than dissecting some one else videos. As far as I am concerned you are just a joke.
DahaktheDragon 2 years ago
Really are you serious? You can not honestly say that Fox news is not bias in their coverage? There are tons of example of them doing so. After watching all of your anti-LiberalViewer vids, I have to admit you are just a bias idiot your self. Whatever happened to people having a open mind in this country? Even your pill popping racist buddy Rush Limbaugh has admitted that the Fox news is a conservative slanted news network.
DahaktheDragon 2 years ago
Opened minds? Interesting possibility. Why don't you try it? If it doesnt' hurt too much.
KidSheIeen 2 years ago 3
@KidSheIeen okay you first!
DahaktheDragon 2 years ago
You go Forrest.
bush1tman 2 years ago
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Lee's conclusions are unfounded and he has PR and News clips mixed up. How the hell can anyone be so misleading. HowTheWorldWorks is broken at the core.
Trueskorn 2 years ago
LOL...not 1 single positive post on here towards you HowYOURWorldWorks
bassisgood6969 2 years ago
Hey whats up! I loved your channel!
Its cool. Check out mine! Stay in touch. Hope you got my friend request! Maybe you can sub
bhstwo 2 years ago
I would like to know if you believe if Fox news does, be it deliberatily or not , distort their viewers with some of their shows? Not being able to watch Fox news where i live, there are many clips of where it seems really clear that Fox news isnt always ''correct'' to say the least. In that context, how is Liberal Viewer misleading (except for the obvious cynisism every now and again?
megeler 2 years ago
Obviously when Obama moves into a neighborhood without knowing what every one of his neighbors did decades ago it proves he is a marxist.
destroyenatar 2 years ago
LOL....good point
bassisgood6969 2 years ago
Umm.. You make no sense. Dunn wasnt talking about news when she was talking about putting their stuff up somewhere without any reporter getting between there. You do see that right? (this whole vid looks like your the distorting the facts) And whats up with this extreme left thing? Your like straight from foxnews, you dont even know what socialism means.
whirlii 2 years ago 5
@whirlii You don't know what socialism is. ANd DUNN did say that she wants the media controlled exclusively by the left.
mainestategop 2 years ago
Good Job..Your videos are great!
Never liked "liberalviewer"
majortom321 2 years ago
lee, i'm sure i've mentioned before that you're a smart guy... so why not use your brain constructively and not just to follow someone else's agenda?
you're an idiot
moother888 2 years ago
No your an idiot. Dumbass communist.
mainestategop 2 years ago
YAY!!...
bassisgood6969 2 years ago
2:35 That is scary. And if I recall Anita Dunn even praised Mao Tse Tung.
phantastickyle 2 years ago
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You summed LV up very well. Great vid.
pharaoh337 2 years ago
I appreciate what you're trying to do here, liberal viewer is guilty of distortion and does film with a point of view. However you're not doing it well. your videos are hacky and make you seem like a crackpot rather than enforcing your point. Do better or don't do at all.
SPACKlick 2 years ago
I appreciate your disputing the nonsense posted by LiberalViewer. I found their videos to be edited to a fault to promote the far left agenda, without substance and based in fantasy land so I never viewed another one of there videos. Keep up the good work!
dantheleo 2 years ago
libview's videos make sense.. yours are just.. sort of ... rubbish
bankashvids 2 years ago
How the hell did does a wrench surgery video come into play with politics?
Karrus01 2 years ago
You have a lot of baseless accusations in this video, but no arguments, and no support, Lee.
Tofu4Dinner 2 years ago
You should pay attention to the video instead of just coming here and baselessly accusing Lee of baseless accusations.
QuartuvLarry 2 years ago
you like the word baseless
mark1m 2 years ago
I also like cute little bunny rabbits roasted to a golden brown for supper.
QuartuvLarry 2 years ago
Howtheworldworks makes another great point, after all, what would we do without Fox? Seeing Barack Obama compared to Hitler on a constant basis makes it the only reliable news source left
rectaltsunami 2 years ago
@rectaltsunami He's compared to Hitler because his policies are the same as Hitler's. Whereas the left will go around and say things like AHHHH!!! YOU DONT BELIEVE IN LETTING WOMEN MURDER THEIR UNBORN CHILD!!! YOUR WORSE THAN HITLER AHHHH!!!! YOU OPPOSE GUN CONTROL AND HATE SPEECH LAWS! HITLER!! YOU DONT LIKE PAYING TAXES! NAZI! RACIST! AHHHHH!!!
mainestategop 2 years ago
All I'm saying is any president can be compared to Hitler on multiple levels, I didn't see Fox making the same comparisons to bush, Fox is just as bad as msnbc or cnn
rectaltsunami 2 years ago 2
fox news is worse than msnbc. I pretty much only watch fox, and there isnt a single liberal host anymore (since hannity and colmes). MSNBC at least has that Morning Joe guy that is a republican. Might be more, i dont watch it enough.
I havent seen much, if any bias out of CNN as they have a good mix of both liberals and conservatives.
mark1m 2 years ago
Well yeah...but let's look at *why*
ABC - Liberal
NBC - Liberal
CBS - Liberal
MSNBC - Liberal
CNN - Primarily Liberal
BBC - Mixed bag, being foreign
FOX - Clearly Conservative (often to a fault)
CBN - Usually more Conservative than Fox but often so far "out there" that even the secular right wingers can't follow their logic.
araeshkigal 2 years ago
BBC is a mixed bag? you realize all European countries are ENTIRELY liberal. Barack Obama is a downright conservative compared to the rest of the advanced nations of the world.
You know i wish i watched more of the other news stations so i could refute you. But im not pompous enough to try to say i know better because there is only so much news i can watch in day. But the logical side of me says they cant all be liberal. And i doubt you watch them all either.
mark1m 2 years ago
@mark1m, hey! Colmes still has a radio show on Fox radio. And also Geraldo Rivera, to me, is pretty liberal. So I think Fox does try to maintain some sort of balance. But that's my opinion.
pharaoh337 2 years ago
i do love the attitude of "if its not ultra conservative, then its liberal main stream media"
if it aint glenn beck, it aint fair and balanced.
mark1m 2 years ago
Well done! Liberal media outlets like CNN and ABC ETC do nothing except sing Obama's praises. Meanwhile, one network decides to expose Obama's flaws and all of a sudden there's a conservative bias.
Liberals are idiots.
phantastickyle 2 years ago
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And when Bush was in office, FOX did nothing but sing his praises. The problem with FOX is not that they "point out Obama's flaws" it's that they make up fake controversies about him to scare people with. Remember the "czars" expose? Turns out there have been czars in many admin. before Obama, including the Bush Admin. When it was Bush, there wasn't a single word about them. When it's Obama, it's some brand new communist plot to force Americans to accept big government.
CanadianQueer 2 years ago
Wrong. Fox condemned Bush when he did a porr job IE: giving a free pass to illegals. But what do you care. You don't even watch Fox.
phantastickyle 2 years ago 5
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It's pretty presumptuous of you to assume you know exactly what I do and do not watch. I did see FOX condemn policies on immigration enacted under the Bush administration, particularly on the O'Reilly factor; I did not see them condemn Bush himself, in contrast to how quick they are to blame Obama and his administration for everything that is going wrong in America. I'm not saying the other networks aren't guilty of the same sin, I'm simply calling a spade a spade.
CanadianQueer 2 years ago
I saw Fox condemn Bush all the time. He is a traitor. He helped ruin this country. Not as much as Obama is now or the way Clinton Bush 1 and Jimmy Carter did but none the less Fox pointed it out.
I didn't even know you watch Fox.
dominicanjtfer 2 years ago 3
Enjoyed the video but rogue isn't spelled rouge - made that error a few times.
zardozcs 2 years ago
The tittle of this video is ironic considering how much Doren distorts facts. Fox News is nothing more than a propaganda outlet and this douche supports their insane agenda. What an idiot.
OldSchoolSkill 2 years ago
There IS no such thing as objective news coverage, so this whole discussion is silly. Most media lean to the left, and fox leans to the right. Whats the problem?. I personally would love, if had a news station like that in my country. Here all stations and newspapers are leaning to the left, even the ones that are called right wing. Go figure.
kjakobsen 2 years ago
I believe it is called "trendy leftist politics".
wikicross 2 years ago
rogue not rouge
corenothing 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
You're a right wing shill on youtube, congrats on being a douchebag.
Rantandreason 2 years ago
And congratulatesion to rantandreason for proving the stupidity and futility of liberalism.
YOU DONT THINK FOX IS BIASED! YOU DONT WANT THE STATE TO CONTROL THE PRESS! YOUR A DOUCHE! WAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
Shut up and go play in the sandbox toddler.
phantastickyle 2 years ago
The irony of your statement is astounding
Rantandreason 2 years ago
@Rantandreason Its hypocrisy my friend, not irony. but dont worry, alot of people mix them up.
mrcrizp 2 years ago
The liberal viewer needs to remove his liberal blinders.
BryanShotYou 2 years ago
I love the sound of angry liberals!!
conradpilapil 2 years ago
#5. Please provide proof that media matters lies. Just because you say they lie doesn't make it true.
BlueFireWitch 2 years ago
#4. David Axelrod did not say that their goal was to make sure other news organizations don't act like Fox, mainly because other news organizations already know not to act like them if they want to be considered a legitimate news organization, not only by the administration, but by the public at large. Axelrod said that other news organizations ought not to refer to Fox as a legitimate news organization, which they are not. There is ample evidence of this straight from Fox.
BlueFireWitch 2 years ago
Hey, genius, Fox News is considered a legitimate news organization by the public at large. That's the very reason why they continue to trounce the network Anita Dunn was spouting her BS on. And I doubt they care what the administration thinks about them. The more the White House whines and tries to stifle Fox News, the higher their ratings go up.
There is ample evidence proving that you don't have enough knowledge to comment on the subjects you do.
realnarutoboy 2 years ago
No, it's not. And FYI, Neilson shows Fox is continuously slipping in the ratings. Just because a network is watched does not legitimize it's content. People watch Nickelodeon, does that make it a legitimate news source? No. So if you are going to make the claim that the public at large believes they are legitimate, then show some real evidence. Otherwise, my evidence, ie the current administration and their continued support on the issue, stands.
BlueFireWitch 2 years ago
Yeah, sure they are. I guess that's probably why shows like O'Reilly actually compete with and sometimes beat network news now. Your evidence that Fox is not legitimate news is the current administration? You are a moron.
realnarutoboy 2 years ago