Worst version of the Internationale ever, I can't help but cringe every time I hear that phrase.
What happened to the angry lyrics, the vengeance against the parasites, the workers standing on their own against a hostile world?
Bleeding heart liberalism never broke a single chain. Rights are taken, not given, and lyrics like this are only fit for baked hippies whose idea of a revolution is ditching their social studies class.
@MrQuaker62 But how can there be a free so society if Socilism is there? Why should we strive to be like Russia or China? Where if you think the "wrong" thing, they will make you dissaper, same with not saying how great the party is. If you want to see Socilism look at Obama, there you go.
@bandboy11111 Why would we want to look like Russia or China? They are not and have never been socialist.....a closer example might be Sweden perhaps but capitalism still is to be found. What does the evil and ungodly system of Capitialism have to do with freedom?? Unless it is freedom to be selfish,greedy and to exploit others? Obama is a socialist you say? Then please tell me why large international corperations and Wall St interests give his party money?
@MrQuaker62 Capitialism is the base of America, where one can come and work hard to get the American dream. Now adays not so much, but in Capitialism you can choose what job you want, you are free to do what you want. And yes Obama does get money from the big guys (even though he says he don't). But look at his polocies that he pushed through
@bandboy11111 Obama gets money form "big guys" because he serves capitialism, the big money intersts on Wall St wouldn't give him the money without a "quid pro quo" now would they??. Capitialism is evil to the core and (despite the religious right's claims) anti-christian. It's economic Darwinism which only exsists by exploiting workers. If you are not one of the 1% then you are being exploited my friend. The "armeican dream" is an illusion and so is your "freedom". Peace!
this song is powerful i think,it encourage people to march on ,nice song
as a chinese i dont agree communistic ideology which use violence to exterminate capitalist or to kill them .it wull divide society and freak people out i think nowaday most chinese youngsters wont agree or allow this happen again there,maybe democratic socializm is the way for human beings
Americans! I'm from Russia. You know nothing of USSR and socialism. Sometimes I read comments with American video clips. I hate the prases like "USSR was a horrible prison" or "Stalin killed millions of innocents". You are brainwashed that you don't object to capitalist politic. Need proof? Read up my next comments to the end.
Foreigners! You astonish me. I often communicate with people who lived in USSR. Almost all of them love Soviet Union - a light of socialism in the world! Other countries spread lies about us in order to you don't know the truth! You don't belive USSR was very amazing country. You think It's our propaganda. You think socialism is evil. No it isn't! I know the opinions of people who lived there. People were really happy. Don't listen to american propaganda, it's lying and lying
You are so funny, americans. Money does not bring happiness. And it is pointless to live for private welfare. Capitalism is a stupid system that can destroy the Earth. We lived in the country and society free from false values, hate each other, greed and vulgarity. So the people lived in the USSR most often tell. Isn't it simple happiness to live so? Or do you like to turn into a pig? The majority voted for the Communist Party: izbircom2011.ru! Now, do you believe?
Lenin was indifferent to religion. He believed that this intimate matter of every man and clergy should have no impact on state and have privileges. Lenin was a man with an open mind brought up in atheism. No one is forbidden to believe in God. I refer to the biography of Lenin.
Communism is a political, economic, and social ideology that has a Classless, Stateless, Moneyless, Atheist, and Revolutionary Socialist Society. People in Communism live on Needs, unlike Socialism where people are paid equally.
Communism strives for the Common Ownership of the Means of Production(basically machines, factories, etc. are owned by the people), and it refuses to let the Modes of Production(workers) be oppressed by a bigger group.
@havee3333333 Actually, it is not. Real Communism is not stateless, nor is it moneyless, because let us face it - a stateless society would die within hours.
How do you know it won't work?Computers are able to check all the possibilities and pick which one would be the most beneficial in a matter of moments.This takes modern politicians weeks to months.
Some will argue that having a computer as a government defeats the purpose of statelessness,but it follows into the Leninist ideology of Vanguardism.
I believe there should be some human presence in government, but Computers take over all the Bureaucratic jobs.
@havee3333333 Because I don't want these proto-futuristic robots to try and take things over for us. "Computers are everything" people tell me, well they are not. What are computers, except tools for information and enternatinment? That is what they are and what they should be.
@havee3333333 As I said, I do not want computers to have ANYTHING to do with governance. Not for politics or bureaocracy. I don't want that. You say keep movies out of this, but is this "perfect robot-state" some sort of sci-fi movie idea? We need a human government. Also, I don't want computers to drive our cars for us or do a lot of the things, that are predicted in the future. We are making mankind dependant on computers.
You have some interesting points, but your ideas are riddled with your own feelings with little to no logistics on it.
Human Governments kill millions every year, whether by economic sanctions, trade-rights, war, capital punishments, etc.
Your ideas are also not representative of Human Society, and, excluding a minority population of Nationalist, most people just want a government that will offer them a good Quality of life.
@havee3333333 We are already far more dependant on computers than we should be, we don't need some computer to do everything for us! A computer is a tool, it isn't a mind. Few are the perfect people, but they are people none the less.
Thank you for sharing your Fascistic ideas in that last sentence, but I've already given enough examples of why it is better. You seem to just repeat yourself, so I'll just stop.
That's interesting, since I'm sure that everything you think you know about Communism is actually Socialism.
The USSR? China? Cuba? Eastern Bloc?
All Socialist!
The only difference is that the four I named followed the Leninist/Marxist-Leninist model of Socialist, which says that Socialism is the transition from Capitalism to Communism.
Do you think we live in the year 500 AD? I don't agree with Lenin's actions against religions, but anyone with an elementary education should be able to know that they are all wrong.
There are hundreds of forms of Socialism, but the basic idea uniting them all is three ideas. Liberty, Egality(equality), and Brotherhood.
No where does it say there is such a thing as tolerance to religion, and anyone that claims so is ignorant.
@havee3333333 Never said we live in the year 500 A.D...Who's being ignorant now?
Anyway, I fail to see how promoting tolerance of religion is "ignorant" in the slightest....You may hate our God (yes he's your God too) but that's your own personal problem.
If you read the Bible and the Qur'an you'll see a strong theme of socialism.
I called those who follow religion ignorant(not you specifically) because they believe in an idea that has been proven wrong by science since the enlightenment.You can nitpick at certain quotes from religious books,but by doing that you distort their original meanings.
I don't care what those bronzed aged books say,it is up to you to realize that they are completely false. Anything I say will be disregarded by you,so there is no point in debate.
As I said, "You can nitpick at certain quotes from religious books,but by doing that you distort their original meanings." I've heard of these "scientific proof" in Islam, and I must say that they are taken out of context and their meanings have been distorted. Richard Dawkins talks about this in more detail in some of his works.
To be honest, the religious will tell you whatever they want to make sure you stay in the religion. All religions do this.
@thegtawizard Well I would describe myself as a socialist too but if you really think what lenin did was socialism you didn't get marx right. And dont you think patriotism is kinda displaced eh?
@dave59934 I have read about Karl Marx and his political idealogy Comrade, But after the October Revolution when Russia became USSR it never achieved full Communism so it was more of a Socialistic county then a Communistic country.
@thegtawizard Marx never said that communism could be achieved overnight. Russia was a specific case, a country with little industry and thus almost no proletariat. With Stalin taking power, the idea of communism became even less reachable, at least in the Soviet Union. Communism means a free association of working individuals and production goods under democratic control by workers, not a single man, a party or its bureaucracy (the state).
Сommentators-anticommunists are stupid degenerate who have been brainwashed with lies about USSR, Che Guevara and socialism. You know nothing of them. I'm from Russia. Sometimes I read comments with American video clips. I hate the prases like "USSR was a horrible prison" or "Stalin killed millions of innocents". You are brainwashed that you don't object to capitalist politic. Read my second comment.
Foreigners!You astonish me. I often communicate with people who lived in USSR. Almost all of them love Soviet Union - a light of socialism in the world! Other countries spread lies about us in order to you don't know the truth! You don't belive USSR was very amazing country. You think It's our propaganda. You think socialism is evil. No it isn't! I know the opinions of people who lived there. People lived and were really happy. Don't listen to american propaganda, it's lying and lying
Ok first of all, the purges were the killing of every actual communists by Stalin. He sold out the international revolutionary movement for trade agreements with Capitalists. He wanted the U.S.S.R. to remain its own country with the beuracracy maintaining control, which would be gone if the resources from a country with a successful revolution were sent to the U.S.S.R. and it was able to industrialize, with Soviet control over the development of the industrialization.
To answer your question the answer is simple: collectivisation. He purged so-called "kulaks" (relatively wealthy peasants), and this caused a massive famine in the Ukraine, North Caucasus, Kazakhstan and the Volga. All historians will be able to tell you that at least 5 million peasant died of starvation during the 1930s, and this was because of the huge procurements the state (under Stalin) was taking from the peasantry. Quite how you can believe the BS of Stalin being "great" I do not know.
@BasilFawlty4444 I agree, and a lot of Americans think Barack Obama is a socialist, which to me is absolutely crazy but they obviously see things very differently.
@lewars1912 Ideology depends upon the personal, geographical and the chronological political climate. Judging upon the previous leader of the USA Obama is Socialist.
However I am not a Socialist. I don't trust Socialism and I do think Obama is rather Socialist. There again Ed Miliband in my opinion is a Marxist.
@STOPTHEEU This is the Internationale on here! You must be one of those terrible trolls. (:o( I see you want to stop the EU: Well you should go and stop it then. You won't stop the EU by making silly comments on here and saying that Ed Miliband is a Marxist. The Miliband's father, Ralph Miliband was a Marxist, and a socialist intellectual of great integrity. Neither of his sons have these qualities.
@lewars1912 I am posting my personal opinion. You will not destroy free speech with accusations of silliness, nor will you destroy it with "political correctness".
The European Union is a dictatorship and Marxists and Communists are brainwashed idiots. Socialism is merely a mask for them and for Fascism.
See NSDAP and USSR. The S = SOCIALISM.
Why should we trust Socialism when these extremist regimes were self declared Socialists?
yeah, um- on all the videos of the english internationale, this issues has continuously arisen- why is there a picture of the union jack? I don't see how that flag expresses socialism at all.
@TheAmazingRusski You don't need a Parliament to be Socialist. All you need is an ideology, a flag, and people. And you have yourself an unstoppable force.
Im sick of the rich treating me like im dirt, I want freedom and mean propper freedom away from the rich, for one thing FOR SOCIALISM! UNITE MY BROTHERS AND SISTER!
Foreigners! You make me laugh. I often communicate with people who lived in USSR. We love Soviet Union - a light of socialism in the world! Capitalist countries spread lies about us that you don't know the truth! And you believe. You don't belive USSR was the most amazing country. You think It's our propaganda. You think socialism is evil. No it isn't! I know the opinions of people who lived there. We were really the happiest nation. Don't listen to american propaganda, it's lying and lying.
This isn't the Internationale translated into English; Billy Bragg wrote new lyrics for it. If you want the actual Internationale translated into English, search for Alistair Hulett's version.
Yes, thats the point, Communism means an equal society without a totalitarian state.
And Stalinism was not only state-capitalism, it was and is a contra-revoltionary dictatorship too. And Mao took the idea of stalinism to creat the chinese implementation.
But for the stage of real Communism it is necessary that the society is self-emanzipated. Only with a self-conscious society is a self-determined World possible.
@SmashThaNaziscum 'state-capitalism' can't exist by definition. capitalism requires a free market, with private property, where individuals are free to answer economics' 3 main questions: what to produce, how to produce it, and who to produce it for.
i understand your points that 'communism' can't exist with a huge state bureaucracy, by teh definition of communism...same as 'state capitalism.'
Stalin was closer to 'fascism' , by definition. a more true term would be 'statist socialism.'
Question: If Communists take over a government and the people aren’t happy with them, can they be removed through a democratic electoral process? Answer: No, because they’ll ban elections.
@MrColigings but if the majority of a nation wants communism in a capitalist nation, can it be elected either? no because the capitalists will leap at every opportunity to crush anything out of place in it's regime. however a true communist nation would give all power to the people and therefore democracy is in place. Let's not forget how many fascist governments also formed dictatorships.
@stanleybob921 How about what happened in Hungary? The people were clamoring for democratic change and the Communist government crushed them brutally with the help of the Soviet Union. The same thing happened in China. The Chinese government even forbade the families of dead protesters from mourning them. And we mustn’t forget the Berlin Wall, built to keep the citizens of East Berlin from escaping to the west.
@MrColigings In communism if the majority of the people disagree with the government, they can start a revolution, and overthrow the government then start with a brand new government. But in democracy, people elect, and in which case, they elect people for the government, they elect the president, but that can hardly change the overall government, as they cannot elect to change the system. Plus as said, a true communist government is based on the ordinary working class people.
@14j3ketlgds Revolutions can be messy and too many people can get killed. Also, going by my country’s history, they can be hijacked to serve the agendas of others. Elections can also be messy and deadly but, at least, they don’t have to be.
@MrColigings Communism is a system that gives power to it's people. if at any point, the government takes away a citizens liberties then in my opinion it is no longer a communist government. However I will not deny that many communist nations may need to revise some of their policies, my point was that almost all democratic systems in capitalist nations are also flawed. I will not argue the other point as your other comments already have.
@stanleybob921 The freedoms to own private property and to worship as one chooses are two basic freedoms denied by many Communist governments. During the days of the Soviet Union, churches were closed and turned into museums. The Viet Cong were known to execute landowners, just because they owned land.
@stanleybob921 So, according to what you're saying, the USSR, the PRC and the GDR aren't Communist states. I think you're just not willing to admit that Communism is a failure. Without individual freedoms, including the right to private property which, by its very name, Communism is opposed to, there can never be a perfect society,
@MrColigings I will respond to each of your statements in turn. Firstly communism isn't about the abolition of private property but, to quote Marx, of bourgeois property. As for the statement about religion, I agree with you that all should be free to their own belief and that it is unjust not to allow them, but it cannot be denied that religion is a major cause of inequality. as for whether the USSR and what not were communist, I think we may have to agree to disagree, I have made my argument.
@MrColigings As for "Communism being a failure" I will not deny that communism on the whole has failed in the majority of countries it is in, this is usually because capitalist ideals are reintroduced, class is reinstated, and/or a complete nutter takes charge. To your final point regarding the perfect society I extend that there cannot be a perfect society because the bourgeoisie will not allow there to be one.
@MrColigings P.S. I'm willing to take this argument to the end of time. I very much doubt that either of our minds are going to change on this matter, so it may be best if we trying stopped soon. However I will happily debate this matter indefinitely so continue if you want to. Hey we may even solve the world economic crisis and bring democracy to China.
'it cannot be denied that religion is a major cause of inequality'
Do you know Luther's Two kingdom(reigns) doctrine? That was the reason to seperate church and Goverment.To be Christian should be and is complete voluntarily,to be a part of this World is it not.And so we have political Goverments,because no-one should be forced to be christian,but we all live togheter in this World and we must find a way to live in peace togheter and so we need a kind of Goverment.
@MrColigings then I do not accept that that is communism. This is a valid point though, but after the death of the primary revolutionary (such as Lenin), then a counter revolution always strikes. This reintroduces class and that is the biggest problem in a communist country. However I do think it's avoidable, if Trotsky had been chosen after Lenin's death instead of Stalin it may have been very different for Russia.
The Faithful-One is in the Faith, the Wordly-One is in the World. A Christian is not a slave of anybody, but a Christian helps everyone. When it is possible to do it without sin, then a Christian can serve a Goverment, if not then 'We ought to obey God rather than men.' Act 5:29.
@SmashThaNaziscum Where did I say I support any of those people? If it was implied, I can verify that I do not support Stalin or Mao, they stand against all of my beleifs. And I am absolutely not in favor of fascism!
@MrColigings Some of your comments on here are very silly: "Without individual freedoms....there can never be a perfect society." (:o( There is no such thing as a "perfect society" and never ever could be. People can only try and do their very best to make this a better world, and with regard to your idea of communism it would be a waste of time trying to communicate with you as it would be like an atheist trying to communicate with someone who believed in flying pink elephants.
@MrColigings the problem that most socialist / communist have is that with humans, you can never take the greed aspect out, and by necessity you need a large strong government to implement the system.
the 'human' factor is what causes communism to fail in most cases. the perfect example of this was the original Plymouth Bay colony in the US. they failed under a communal system, and efforts at revision of this ignore Wm Bradford's comments about how it led to confusion, resentment, etc.
Anarcho-syndicalist Catalonia didn't use a government to implement socialism. Neither did the Ukranian Free Territory (anarcho-communism). Somehow I think those examples (being from the 20th century and large scale) are more telling, than some colony on the coast of an unexplored continent in the early 17th century, don't you?
The notion that the Makhno free state in ukraine achieved anarchy successfully is a lie , It was a band of theiving marauders with Makhno governing as a defacto warlord regime, To be fair it was Bolshevik gov that killed before it had a chance to achieve anything, In the years it existed rape ,murder & theft particularly against Mennonites was their only accomplishment.
If you believe in anarcho-syndicalism I wouldn't bring up the Ukrainian Makhno regime,
1) Ukranian Free Territory was anarcho-communist, not anarcho-syndicalist. Catalonia was anarcho-syndicalist.
2) To my understanding Makhno had no ruling function in governance. He organized the military and advised.
I have no knowledge of theft etc. If you care to address these claims or wish me to take them seriously, please provide a source, preferably peer-reviewed.
@Udany147 The English to be honest. There are a lot of parallels run along the English Civil War and the American Revolution (which can be resonably argued as the 'Second English Civil War')
@MrColigings None of these countries have ever thought of themselves as being communist and have never ever called themselves communist. The only people who do this are either being dishonest or don't seem to know very much.
@MrColigings Well you thought wrong, though if you still wish to continue to believe this you are welcome to do so. Lenin, the first leader of the USSR was a Marxist and believed in the creation of a communist society, however he died of a stroke in 1924, and Stalin took over. with all the negative things that have happened; Stalin, etc; it has never stopped me believing that we need a much more equal, just world, based on Marxist theory.
@lewiske I never suggested that Lenin did "nothing wrong," however a lot of the things he has been criticised for have been made by people who seem to be living in cloud cuckoo land. Lenin was ruthless with the enemies of the revolution, and needed to be like this. He would have been very silly indeed if he hadn't been.
@lewars1912 The anarchist-marxist theory is obsolete, true Communism, based on Marxism-Leninism. Stalin may have done some things, which are not entierly savvy, but he was still looking for the best interests of the people and regardless of the purge, the USSR was still at its peak under his leadership. You can call him a murderer, but you cannot deny the advancements he made, to preserve socialism, protect his people and to win WWII.
@rimlanin You'll find that most people in the world will find your views about Stalin as obsolete. He did some good things but a lot of terribly bad ones, and with regard to the "best interests of the people" Stalin showed no interest whatsoever in the welfare of the Soviet army. They were just cannon fodder. His orders led to the needless slaughter of countless thousands of Soviet soldiers. If we had never had Stalin the ideals of socialism would be far more popular today.
@lewars1912 Not true. Maybe he went a bit overboard with his purge, but do we really need to ignore his good deeds? He knew there was one way he would win the war - If he throws everything he has got at the enemy and forbids retreat and surrender. So he did, the "Not one Step Back" doctrine has won the war and is still valid for use.
@rimlanin I very much doubt that you would be agreeing with this "Not One Step Back" doctrine if he was saying it to you, and I do very much believe in ignoring his "good deeds," especially when there are people like you who actually seem to admire the man, and he didn't just go a "bit overboard" with his purges. He was a mass murderer.
@lewars1912 Actually I would still agree with it. Surrender and retreat equal death for your country, so it would be better if individual soldiers fight for their montherland, for Socialism and always push forward. War is ugly, war is bad, war is horrible, but losing it - even more so. A lot of the people he killed were criminals, dissidents, saboteurs. They deserved it. The only people I disagree for the killing of are the religious.
@rimlanin He let his own people starve you buffoon. he was no better than Tsar Nicholas II and has given socialism an even worse name than capitalists already had.
@rimlanin Reading that sounds the same as what a Fascist might say about Hitler and his National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP) Both were pure evil.
@STOPTHEEU But we have evidence that Hitler was a warmonger, imperialist, racist, discriminatory mass-murderer and is proud of it. Stalin made sacrifices, to save his people.
@STOPTHEEU Stalin's invasion of Finald was righteous. The Invasion of poland was after Poland itself refused to ally with the soviets, along with all allies, hence forcing stalin into a NAP with Nazi Germany, if he didn't want to face one-way war.
The was no "deliberate" famine. Famines happen. Their harvest was poor and some idiots were burning their already poor harvest, so Stalin couldn't collectivize them.
Only criminals died in the Gulags and I pity them not. Stalin was a great leader!
hey brothers and sisters , you will kick some butts out of your government , at last you face more motherfuckers in that government , so leave it alone , will you ?
An Englishman, a Frenchman, and a North Korean are talking. The Englishman says: "I feel happiest when I'm home, my wool pants on, sitting in front of the fire."
The Frenchman says: "I feel happiest when I go to a beach with a beautiful woman, and we do what we've got to do on the way back."
The North Korean says: "In the middle of the night, the secret police knock on the door, shouting: Kang Sung-Mee, you're under arrest! And I say, Kang Sung-Mee lives next door! That's when we're happiest!"
The Union Jack is the symbol of the united British nations....yes I know Scotland are talking about joining Scandinavia,
The concept Socialism failed in the UK is ridiculous. The failure was in the Capitalist banks...the actual economy in the UK till the banking crisis was at it's highest point in history....the facts and figures are all there to read.
@TheTollundWoman hah...Capitalism fails...thats why the USA a capitalist ''free'' country is in massive debt to a communist country. aka China. wake up dickhead and get your head out of your Ass and accept the truth.
Even in the midst of a "massive debt crisis" the US has a far higher standard of living than any communist state in history. And the US is in debt to Capitalist China. "To get rich is glorious." -CEO Deng Xiaoping. stop relying on juvenile curse words. you lost the cold war, we won, i'll see you at the 2018 Winter Olympics...in SOUTH KOREA best country in the world :D
@Spetsnaz2112 nothing about capitalism has failed...china's economy has exploded with growth since the reforms allowing private property, more ownership of industry, etc...in other words...free market reform.
facts are stubborn...but that is the fact. the US economy is being more and more regulated, or becoming 'less' capitalistic, and therefore, having troubles.
@KEV8551 oh, facts? from youre own imagination? capitalism is a machine of werewolves, it is a machine so impossible that in the end it will destroy itself
Wow! Apprently if you try to play this video outside youtube, UMG owns it! TAKE DOWN UMG! LONG LIVE THE UNION!
Demoist 2 days ago
nationalcommunism sounds as stupid as nationalsocialism to me.
soundclashpunkrock 4 days ago
>respect makes the empires fall
Worst version of the Internationale ever, I can't help but cringe every time I hear that phrase.
What happened to the angry lyrics, the vengeance against the parasites, the workers standing on their own against a hostile world?
Bleeding heart liberalism never broke a single chain. Rights are taken, not given, and lyrics like this are only fit for baked hippies whose idea of a revolution is ditching their social studies class.
harnoful 6 days ago
@harnoful Go to bed Mark.
DMitsukirules 6 days ago
For freedom, for democracy, for freedom of speech, of life, of thought. LONG LIVE FREEDOM
bandboy11111 1 week ago
@bandboy11111 Socilism can only thrive in a free society!
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@MrQuaker62 But how can there be a free so society if Socilism is there? Why should we strive to be like Russia or China? Where if you think the "wrong" thing, they will make you dissaper, same with not saying how great the party is. If you want to see Socilism look at Obama, there you go.
bandboy11111 4 days ago
@bandboy11111 Why would we want to look like Russia or China? They are not and have never been socialist.....a closer example might be Sweden perhaps but capitalism still is to be found. What does the evil and ungodly system of Capitialism have to do with freedom?? Unless it is freedom to be selfish,greedy and to exploit others? Obama is a socialist you say? Then please tell me why large international corperations and Wall St interests give his party money?
MrQuaker62 4 days ago
@MrQuaker62 Capitialism is the base of America, where one can come and work hard to get the American dream. Now adays not so much, but in Capitialism you can choose what job you want, you are free to do what you want. And yes Obama does get money from the big guys (even though he says he don't). But look at his polocies that he pushed through
bandboy11111 3 days ago
@bandboy11111 Obama gets money form "big guys" because he serves capitialism, the big money intersts on Wall St wouldn't give him the money without a "quid pro quo" now would they??. Capitialism is evil to the core and (despite the religious right's claims) anti-christian. It's economic Darwinism which only exsists by exploiting workers. If you are not one of the 1% then you are being exploited my friend. The "armeican dream" is an illusion and so is your "freedom". Peace!
Alexander 2012
MrQuaker62 3 days ago
INGSOC
BlogArsLibri 1 week ago in playlist More videos from nationalcommunism
@BlogArsLibri Funny how INGSOC isn't socialist at all huh?
redundantstudios 1 week ago
Im a democratic socialist and im proud lets take this country
xp2003bsd 1 week ago
@xp2003bsd Obama already is in power, but not for long
bandboy11111 1 week ago
this song is powerful i think,it encourage people to march on ,nice song
as a chinese i dont agree communistic ideology which use violence to exterminate capitalist or to kill them .it wull divide society and freak people out i think nowaday most chinese youngsters wont agree or allow this happen again there,maybe democratic socializm is the way for human beings
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Americans! I'm from Russia. You know nothing of USSR and socialism. Sometimes I read comments with American video clips. I hate the prases like "USSR was a horrible prison" or "Stalin killed millions of innocents". You are brainwashed that you don't object to capitalist politic. Need proof? Read up my next comments to the end.
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Foreigners! You astonish me. I often communicate with people who lived in USSR. Almost all of them love Soviet Union - a light of socialism in the world! Other countries spread lies about us in order to you don't know the truth! You don't belive USSR was very amazing country. You think It's our propaganda. You think socialism is evil. No it isn't! I know the opinions of people who lived there. People were really happy. Don't listen to american propaganda, it's lying and lying
vserossiiskiiprotest 2 weeks ago
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You are so funny, americans. Money does not bring happiness. And it is pointless to live for private welfare. Capitalism is a stupid system that can destroy the Earth. We lived in the country and society free from false values, hate each other, greed and vulgarity. So the people lived in the USSR most often tell. Isn't it simple happiness to live so? Or do you like to turn into a pig? The majority voted for the Communist Party: izbircom2011.ru! Now, do you believe?
vserossiiskiiprotest 2 weeks ago
beautiful
ComradeRedBolshevik 2 weeks ago 3
beautiful anthem
MysteryBoy431 2 weeks ago 2
Lenin was indifferent to religion. He believed that this intimate matter of every man and clergy should have no impact on state and have privileges. Lenin was a man with an open mind brought up in atheism. No one is forbidden to believe in God. I refer to the biography of Lenin.
Slashplite 3 weeks ago
@Slashplite marx clearly states that primitive behaviour like religion has no place in a socialist world.ignorance is never tolerated
MaRaX93 3 weeks ago
@March
Communism is a political, economic, and social ideology that has a Classless, Stateless, Moneyless, Atheist, and Revolutionary Socialist Society. People in Communism live on Needs, unlike Socialism where people are paid equally.
Communism strives for the Common Ownership of the Means of Production(basically machines, factories, etc. are owned by the people), and it refuses to let the Modes of Production(workers) be oppressed by a bigger group.
havee3333333 3 weeks ago
@havee3333333 Actually, it is not. Real Communism is not stateless, nor is it moneyless, because let us face it - a stateless society would die within hours.
rimlanin 3 weeks ago
@rimlanin
A stateless society run on technology, i.e. computers.
havee3333333 3 weeks ago
@havee3333333 No. It will not work.
rimlanin 3 weeks ago
@r
How do you know it won't work?Computers are able to check all the possibilities and pick which one would be the most beneficial in a matter of moments.This takes modern politicians weeks to months.
Some will argue that having a computer as a government defeats the purpose of statelessness,but it follows into the Leninist ideology of Vanguardism.
I believe there should be some human presence in government, but Computers take over all the Bureaucratic jobs.
5th International!
havee3333333 3 weeks ago
@havee3333333 I honestly don't want computers to have anything to do with the government, aside from number-crunching.
rimlanin 2 weeks ago
@rimlanin I don't want the government to have anything to do with anything, aside from fucking off and dying. Useless monkeys with guns.
ThisMachineKillsReds 2 weeks ago
@rimlanin
Alright, have an unstable human government which will cause global imperialism and genocide every few decades.
Why can't there be a single Human body at top with Computers leading the Bureaucratic jobs.
havee3333333 2 weeks ago
@havee3333333 Because I don't want these proto-futuristic robots to try and take things over for us. "Computers are everything" people tell me, well they are not. What are computers, except tools for information and enternatinment? That is what they are and what they should be.
rimlanin 2 weeks ago
@rimlanin
Well, is having leaders hover over the big red button that could destroy the world any better? Anyway, movies shouldn't influence human decisions.
How about this. An international governing body is the Central Soviet, while the Computers leads the Bureaucracy.
Can you think of a better more stable and fair system than that?
havee3333333 2 weeks ago
@havee3333333 As I said, I do not want computers to have ANYTHING to do with governance. Not for politics or bureaocracy. I don't want that. You say keep movies out of this, but is this "perfect robot-state" some sort of sci-fi movie idea? We need a human government. Also, I don't want computers to drive our cars for us or do a lot of the things, that are predicted in the future. We are making mankind dependant on computers.
rimlanin 2 weeks ago
@rimlanin
You have some interesting points, but your ideas are riddled with your own feelings with little to no logistics on it.
Human Governments kill millions every year, whether by economic sanctions, trade-rights, war, capital punishments, etc.
Your ideas are also not representative of Human Society, and, excluding a minority population of Nationalist, most people just want a government that will offer them a good Quality of life.
havee3333333 2 weeks ago
@havee3333333 We are already far more dependant on computers than we should be, we don't need some computer to do everything for us! A computer is a tool, it isn't a mind. Few are the perfect people, but they are people none the less.
rimlanin 2 weeks ago
@rimlanin
Thank you for sharing your Fascistic ideas in that last sentence, but I've already given enough examples of why it is better. You seem to just repeat yourself, so I'll just stop.
havee3333333 2 weeks ago
@havee3333333 Right, because I don't want for us to be absoluteley dependant on computers, I must also be a fascist. Your logic is impecable....
rimlanin 2 weeks ago
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havee3333333 2 weeks ago
@rimlanin
I was actually referring to your over the top pride for human government.
I didn't call you a Fascist, I meant you had Fascistical tendencies.
havee3333333 2 weeks ago
I don't like communism (though I am a socialist)...but this song is fantastic.
MarchToFreedom 3 weeks ago
@MarchToFreedom
That's interesting, since I'm sure that everything you think you know about Communism is actually Socialism.
The USSR? China? Cuba? Eastern Bloc?
All Socialist!
The only difference is that the four I named followed the Leninist/Marxist-Leninist model of Socialist, which says that Socialism is the transition from Capitalism to Communism.
havee3333333 3 weeks ago
@havee3333333Communists burned churches and banned religion....What's socialist about that?
No, true socialism is tolerance of religion.
MarchToFreedom 3 weeks ago
@MarchToFreedom
Do you think we live in the year 500 AD? I don't agree with Lenin's actions against religions, but anyone with an elementary education should be able to know that they are all wrong.
There are hundreds of forms of Socialism, but the basic idea uniting them all is three ideas. Liberty, Egality(equality), and Brotherhood.
No where does it say there is such a thing as tolerance to religion, and anyone that claims so is ignorant.
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havee3333333 3 weeks ago
@havee3333333 Never said we live in the year 500 A.D...Who's being ignorant now?
Anyway, I fail to see how promoting tolerance of religion is "ignorant" in the slightest....You may hate our God (yes he's your God too) but that's your own personal problem.
If you read the Bible and the Qur'an you'll see a strong theme of socialism.
MarchToFreedom 3 weeks ago
@Mar
I called those who follow religion ignorant(not you specifically) because they believe in an idea that has been proven wrong by science since the enlightenment.You can nitpick at certain quotes from religious books,but by doing that you distort their original meanings.
I don't care what those bronzed aged books say,it is up to you to realize that they are completely false. Anything I say will be disregarded by you,so there is no point in debate.
havee3333333 3 weeks ago
@havee3333333 Well you're free to call us whatever you wish and to think what you like of our beliefs.
Here's a quick thing for you to search up though:
Science & Islam....science backs up religion, it doesn't disprove it.
MarchToFreedom 3 weeks ago
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@MarchToFreedom
As I said, "You can nitpick at certain quotes from religious books,but by doing that you distort their original meanings." I've heard of these "scientific proof" in Islam, and I must say that they are taken out of context and their meanings have been distorted. Richard Dawkins talks about this in more detail in some of his works.
To be honest, the religious will tell you whatever they want to make sure you stay in the religion. All religions do this.
havee3333333 3 weeks ago
@MarchToFreedom Science never backs up religion. They are different worlds entierly. It would be the same thing as saying "Apples back up oranges".
rimlanin 3 weeks ago
@rimlanin Science does back up religion...Honestly, i'm not lying..
Just look it up; "Science in the Qur'an"...they also reference Bible quotes.
MarchToFreedom 3 weeks ago
@MarchToFreedom Socialism also references the bible, but in itself, it promotes atheism.
rimlanin 3 weeks ago
@rimlanin Ok...But socialism is still in the Bible and was there long before people like yourself decided to take God out of it.
I fail to see what that has to do with science backing up Islam and Christianity though.
MarchToFreedom 3 weeks ago
It needn`t be like this!
HomoHElDELBERGensis 2 weeks ago
@MarchToFreedom Well said Comrade! I too am a proud Socialist! LONG LIVE LENIN AND THE MOTHERLAND!
thegtawizard 1 week ago 9
@thegtawizard Well I would describe myself as a socialist too but if you really think what lenin did was socialism you didn't get marx right. And dont you think patriotism is kinda displaced eh?
dave59934 1 week ago
@dave59934 I have read about Karl Marx and his political idealogy Comrade, But after the October Revolution when Russia became USSR it never achieved full Communism so it was more of a Socialistic county then a Communistic country.
thegtawizard 1 week ago
@thegtawizard Marx never said that communism could be achieved overnight. Russia was a specific case, a country with little industry and thus almost no proletariat. With Stalin taking power, the idea of communism became even less reachable, at least in the Soviet Union. Communism means a free association of working individuals and production goods under democratic control by workers, not a single man, a party or its bureaucracy (the state).
Neidhardt84 1 week ago
@thegtawizard Lenin is dead. Socialism is not however but it will take a different form in the 21st century but it will prevail,
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LambChowder1 3 weeks ago
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Сommentators-anticommunists are stupid degenerate who have been brainwashed with lies about USSR, Che Guevara and socialism. You know nothing of them. I'm from Russia. Sometimes I read comments with American video clips. I hate the prases like "USSR was a horrible prison" or "Stalin killed millions of innocents". You are brainwashed that you don't object to capitalist politic. Read my second comment.
vserossiiskiiprotest 1 month ago
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Foreigners!You astonish me. I often communicate with people who lived in USSR. Almost all of them love Soviet Union - a light of socialism in the world! Other countries spread lies about us in order to you don't know the truth! You don't belive USSR was very amazing country. You think It's our propaganda. You think socialism is evil. No it isn't! I know the opinions of people who lived there. People lived and were really happy. Don't listen to american propaganda, it's lying and lying
vserossiiskiiprotest 1 month ago
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vserossiiskiiprotest 1 month ago
Ok first of all, the purges were the killing of every actual communists by Stalin. He sold out the international revolutionary movement for trade agreements with Capitalists. He wanted the U.S.S.R. to remain its own country with the beuracracy maintaining control, which would be gone if the resources from a country with a successful revolution were sent to the U.S.S.R. and it was able to industrialize, with Soviet control over the development of the industrialization.
HavidDagstrom 1 month ago
To answer your question the answer is simple: collectivisation. He purged so-called "kulaks" (relatively wealthy peasants), and this caused a massive famine in the Ukraine, North Caucasus, Kazakhstan and the Volga. All historians will be able to tell you that at least 5 million peasant died of starvation during the 1930s, and this was because of the huge procurements the state (under Stalin) was taking from the peasantry. Quite how you can believe the BS of Stalin being "great" I do not know.
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stanleybob921 1 month ago
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step to europe ghazi rusian, english that all speak SERBIAN some moaning tones staroslavna happy new Orthodox
urosognjen 1 month ago
@KrisDeBon Very true.
lewars1912 1 month ago
That is one very silly flag to have up there on a video of the Internationale, lol.
lewars1912 1 month ago
@lewars1912 Really?
The Americans seem to think that everything about Britain is pretty socialist...
BasilFawlty4444 1 month ago
@BasilFawlty4444 Què? I no understand Meester Fawlty. Americans nothing do with me. I from Barcelona.
lewars1912 1 month ago
@lewars1912 I wasn't saying you were American, I was just saying that Americans percieve Britain as a socialist state because we are a Welfare State.
BasilFawlty4444 1 month ago
@BasilFawlty4444 I agree, and a lot of Americans think Barack Obama is a socialist, which to me is absolutely crazy but they obviously see things very differently.
lewars1912 1 month ago
@lewars1912 Ideology depends upon the personal, geographical and the chronological political climate. Judging upon the previous leader of the USA Obama is Socialist.
However I am not a Socialist. I don't trust Socialism and I do think Obama is rather Socialist. There again Ed Miliband in my opinion is a Marxist.
STOPTHEEU 3 weeks ago
@STOPTHEEU (:o( I agree; you're certainly not a Socialist. You must be VERY far to the right, lol.
lewars1912 3 weeks ago
@STOPTHEEU This is the Internationale on here! You must be one of those terrible trolls. (:o( I see you want to stop the EU: Well you should go and stop it then. You won't stop the EU by making silly comments on here and saying that Ed Miliband is a Marxist. The Miliband's father, Ralph Miliband was a Marxist, and a socialist intellectual of great integrity. Neither of his sons have these qualities.
lewars1912 3 weeks ago
@lewars1912 I am posting my personal opinion. You will not destroy free speech with accusations of silliness, nor will you destroy it with "political correctness".
The European Union is a dictatorship and Marxists and Communists are brainwashed idiots. Socialism is merely a mask for them and for Fascism.
See NSDAP and USSR. The S = SOCIALISM.
Why should we trust Socialism when these extremist regimes were self declared Socialists?
Answer; We shouldn't.
STOPTHEEU 3 weeks ago
yeah, um- on all the videos of the english internationale, this issues has continuously arisen- why is there a picture of the union jack? I don't see how that flag expresses socialism at all.
TheAmazingRusski 1 month ago
@TheAmazingRusski You don't need a Parliament to be Socialist. All you need is an ideology, a flag, and people. And you have yourself an unstoppable force.
CaptSanderson 1 month ago
im surprised the clash didnt do a version of this song
also i hate it when people put down communism when they havent even read any of marx's or engles' or feurbach's work
dont comment on what u dont know
XXpunkrockwarlordXX 1 month ago
Im sick of the rich treating me like im dirt, I want freedom and mean propper freedom away from the rich, for one thing FOR SOCIALISM! UNITE MY BROTHERS AND SISTER!
0111lol 1 month ago
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Foreigners! You make me laugh. I often communicate with people who lived in USSR. We love Soviet Union - a light of socialism in the world! Capitalist countries spread lies about us that you don't know the truth! And you believe. You don't belive USSR was the most amazing country. You think It's our propaganda. You think socialism is evil. No it isn't! I know the opinions of people who lived there. We were really the happiest nation. Don't listen to american propaganda, it's lying and lying.
vserossiiskiiprotest 1 month ago
This isn't the Internationale translated into English; Billy Bragg wrote new lyrics for it. If you want the actual Internationale translated into English, search for Alistair Hulett's version.
ourhandsaretied 1 month ago
@KrisDeBon
Yes, thats the point, Communism means an equal society without a totalitarian state.
And Stalinism was not only state-capitalism, it was and is a contra-revoltionary dictatorship too. And Mao took the idea of stalinism to creat the chinese implementation.
But for the stage of real Communism it is necessary that the society is self-emanzipated. Only with a self-conscious society is a self-determined World possible.
SmashThaNaziscum 1 month ago
@SmashThaNaziscum 'state-capitalism' can't exist by definition. capitalism requires a free market, with private property, where individuals are free to answer economics' 3 main questions: what to produce, how to produce it, and who to produce it for.
i understand your points that 'communism' can't exist with a huge state bureaucracy, by teh definition of communism...same as 'state capitalism.'
Stalin was closer to 'fascism' , by definition. a more true term would be 'statist socialism.'
KEV8551 1 month ago
Question: If Communists take over a government and the people aren’t happy with them, can they be removed through a democratic electoral process? Answer: No, because they’ll ban elections.
MrColigings 1 month ago
@MrColigings but if the majority of a nation wants communism in a capitalist nation, can it be elected either? no because the capitalists will leap at every opportunity to crush anything out of place in it's regime. however a true communist nation would give all power to the people and therefore democracy is in place. Let's not forget how many fascist governments also formed dictatorships.
stanleybob921 1 month ago
@stanleybob921 How about what happened in Hungary? The people were clamoring for democratic change and the Communist government crushed them brutally with the help of the Soviet Union. The same thing happened in China. The Chinese government even forbade the families of dead protesters from mourning them. And we mustn’t forget the Berlin Wall, built to keep the citizens of East Berlin from escaping to the west.
MrColigings 1 month ago
@MrColigings In communism if the majority of the people disagree with the government, they can start a revolution, and overthrow the government then start with a brand new government. But in democracy, people elect, and in which case, they elect people for the government, they elect the president, but that can hardly change the overall government, as they cannot elect to change the system. Plus as said, a true communist government is based on the ordinary working class people.
14j3ketlgds 1 month ago
@14j3ketlgds Revolutions can be messy and too many people can get killed. Also, going by my country’s history, they can be hijacked to serve the agendas of others. Elections can also be messy and deadly but, at least, they don’t have to be.
MrColigings 1 month ago
@MrColigings Communism is a system that gives power to it's people. if at any point, the government takes away a citizens liberties then in my opinion it is no longer a communist government. However I will not deny that many communist nations may need to revise some of their policies, my point was that almost all democratic systems in capitalist nations are also flawed. I will not argue the other point as your other comments already have.
stanleybob921 1 month ago
@stanleybob921 The freedoms to own private property and to worship as one chooses are two basic freedoms denied by many Communist governments. During the days of the Soviet Union, churches were closed and turned into museums. The Viet Cong were known to execute landowners, just because they owned land.
MrColigings 1 month ago
@stanleybob921 So, according to what you're saying, the USSR, the PRC and the GDR aren't Communist states. I think you're just not willing to admit that Communism is a failure. Without individual freedoms, including the right to private property which, by its very name, Communism is opposed to, there can never be a perfect society,
MrColigings 1 month ago
@MrColigings I will respond to each of your statements in turn. Firstly communism isn't about the abolition of private property but, to quote Marx, of bourgeois property. As for the statement about religion, I agree with you that all should be free to their own belief and that it is unjust not to allow them, but it cannot be denied that religion is a major cause of inequality. as for whether the USSR and what not were communist, I think we may have to agree to disagree, I have made my argument.
stanleybob921 1 month ago
@MrColigings As for "Communism being a failure" I will not deny that communism on the whole has failed in the majority of countries it is in, this is usually because capitalist ideals are reintroduced, class is reinstated, and/or a complete nutter takes charge. To your final point regarding the perfect society I extend that there cannot be a perfect society because the bourgeoisie will not allow there to be one.
stanleybob921 1 month ago
@MrColigings P.S. I'm willing to take this argument to the end of time. I very much doubt that either of our minds are going to change on this matter, so it may be best if we trying stopped soon. However I will happily debate this matter indefinitely so continue if you want to. Hey we may even solve the world economic crisis and bring democracy to China.
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MrColigings 1 month ago
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@stanleybob921 Well, if people would just respect each other’s beliefs, religion doesn’t have to be a cause for inequality.
MrColigings 1 month ago
@stanleybob921
'it cannot be denied that religion is a major cause of inequality'
Do you know Luther's Two kingdom(reigns) doctrine? That was the reason to seperate church and Goverment.To be Christian should be and is complete voluntarily,to be a part of this World is it not.And so we have political Goverments,because no-one should be forced to be christian,but we all live togheter in this World and we must find a way to live in peace togheter and so we need a kind of Goverment.
SmashThaNaziscum 1 month ago
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SmashThaNaziscum 1 month ago
@stanleybob921 But there’s inequality in Communism as well. Party members get the best food, the best medicine, the best seats and everything.
MrColigings 1 month ago
@MrColigings then I do not accept that that is communism. This is a valid point though, but after the death of the primary revolutionary (such as Lenin), then a counter revolution always strikes. This reintroduces class and that is the biggest problem in a communist country. However I do think it's avoidable, if Trotsky had been chosen after Lenin's death instead of Stalin it may have been very different for Russia.
stanleybob921 1 month ago
@stanleybob921 Unfortunately, Stalin did get chosen and proceeded to starve his people.
MrColigings 1 month ago
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@stanleybob921
Luther wrote about it, in a very good way.
The Faithful-One is in the Faith, the Wordly-One is in the World. A Christian is not a slave of anybody, but a Christian helps everyone. When it is possible to do it without sin, then a Christian can serve a Goverment, if not then 'We ought to obey God rather than men.' Act 5:29.
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@stanleybob921
But Stalinism is exactly the opposite from them what i wish for mankind.
Dictatorship is bad in anyway. Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Co. are all enemies of freedom. The World is a better place without them.
SmashThaNaziscum 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
@SmashThaNaziscum Where did I say I support any of those people? If it was implied, I can verify that I do not support Stalin or Mao, they stand against all of my beleifs. And I am absolutely not in favor of fascism!
stanleybob921 1 month ago
@MrColigings Some of your comments on here are very silly: "Without individual freedoms....there can never be a perfect society." (:o( There is no such thing as a "perfect society" and never ever could be. People can only try and do their very best to make this a better world, and with regard to your idea of communism it would be a waste of time trying to communicate with you as it would be like an atheist trying to communicate with someone who believed in flying pink elephants.
lewars1912 1 month ago
@lewars1912 Ah, but elephants can fly. But they're green, not pink.
MrColigings 1 month ago
@MrColigings They are probably able to change colour.
lewars1912 1 month ago
@MrColigings the problem that most socialist / communist have is that with humans, you can never take the greed aspect out, and by necessity you need a large strong government to implement the system.
the 'human' factor is what causes communism to fail in most cases. the perfect example of this was the original Plymouth Bay colony in the US. they failed under a communal system, and efforts at revision of this ignore Wm Bradford's comments about how it led to confusion, resentment, etc.
KEV8551 1 month ago
@KEV8551
Anarcho-syndicalist Catalonia didn't use a government to implement socialism. Neither did the Ukranian Free Territory (anarcho-communism). Somehow I think those examples (being from the 20th century and large scale) are more telling, than some colony on the coast of an unexplored continent in the early 17th century, don't you?
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH
The notion that the Makhno free state in ukraine achieved anarchy successfully is a lie , It was a band of theiving marauders with Makhno governing as a defacto warlord regime, To be fair it was Bolshevik gov that killed before it had a chance to achieve anything, In the years it existed rape ,murder & theft particularly against Mennonites was their only accomplishment.
If you believe in anarcho-syndicalism I wouldn't bring up the Ukrainian Makhno regime,
Obasiliasfilosofos 1 month ago
@Obasiliasfilosofos
1) Ukranian Free Territory was anarcho-communist, not anarcho-syndicalist. Catalonia was anarcho-syndicalist.
2) To my understanding Makhno had no ruling function in governance. He organized the military and advised.
I have no knowledge of theft etc. If you care to address these claims or wish me to take them seriously, please provide a source, preferably peer-reviewed.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
@KEV8551 But the descendants of the Plymouth colony were the only ones to stage a fully successful revolution. And they weren't communists.
MrColigings 1 month ago
@MrColigings Tell that to the French.
Although they weren't communists either.
Udany147 1 month ago
@Udany147 Their revolution resulted in the Terror.
MrColigings 1 month ago
@MrColigings but they overthrew the ancient regime and the king!! Who do you think the Americans took inspiration from?
Udany147 1 month ago
@Udany147 The American Revolution came first.
MrColigings 1 month ago
@Udany147 The English to be honest. There are a lot of parallels run along the English Civil War and the American Revolution (which can be resonably argued as the 'Second English Civil War')
OJSlaughter93 4 weeks ago
@stanleybob921 What "communist nations" are you meaning? There are none, and you will find that no nation has ever claimed to be one.
lewars1912 1 month ago
@MrColigings None of these countries have ever thought of themselves as being communist and have never ever called themselves communist. The only people who do this are either being dishonest or don't seem to know very much.
lewars1912 1 month ago
@lewars1912 I always thought the USSR was communist.
MrColigings 1 month ago
@MrColigings Well you thought wrong, though if you still wish to continue to believe this you are welcome to do so. Lenin, the first leader of the USSR was a Marxist and believed in the creation of a communist society, however he died of a stroke in 1924, and Stalin took over. with all the negative things that have happened; Stalin, etc; it has never stopped me believing that we need a much more equal, just world, based on Marxist theory.
lewars1912 1 month ago
@lewars1912 So, let me get this straight: Lenin himself did nothing wrong? Please elaborate.
lewiske 1 month ago
@lewiske I never suggested that Lenin did "nothing wrong," however a lot of the things he has been criticised for have been made by people who seem to be living in cloud cuckoo land. Lenin was ruthless with the enemies of the revolution, and needed to be like this. He would have been very silly indeed if he hadn't been.
lewars1912 1 month ago
@lewars1912 The party is over quite literally.
lewiske 1 month ago
@lewiske What do you mean?
lewars1912 1 month ago
@lewars1912 The anarchist-marxist theory is obsolete, true Communism, based on Marxism-Leninism. Stalin may have done some things, which are not entierly savvy, but he was still looking for the best interests of the people and regardless of the purge, the USSR was still at its peak under his leadership. You can call him a murderer, but you cannot deny the advancements he made, to preserve socialism, protect his people and to win WWII.
rimlanin 1 month ago
@rimlanin You'll find that most people in the world will find your views about Stalin as obsolete. He did some good things but a lot of terribly bad ones, and with regard to the "best interests of the people" Stalin showed no interest whatsoever in the welfare of the Soviet army. They were just cannon fodder. His orders led to the needless slaughter of countless thousands of Soviet soldiers. If we had never had Stalin the ideals of socialism would be far more popular today.
lewars1912 1 month ago
@lewars1912 Not true. Maybe he went a bit overboard with his purge, but do we really need to ignore his good deeds? He knew there was one way he would win the war - If he throws everything he has got at the enemy and forbids retreat and surrender. So he did, the "Not one Step Back" doctrine has won the war and is still valid for use.
rimlanin 1 month ago
@rimlanin I very much doubt that you would be agreeing with this "Not One Step Back" doctrine if he was saying it to you, and I do very much believe in ignoring his "good deeds," especially when there are people like you who actually seem to admire the man, and he didn't just go a "bit overboard" with his purges. He was a mass murderer.
lewars1912 1 month ago
@lewars1912 Actually I would still agree with it. Surrender and retreat equal death for your country, so it would be better if individual soldiers fight for their montherland, for Socialism and always push forward. War is ugly, war is bad, war is horrible, but losing it - even more so. A lot of the people he killed were criminals, dissidents, saboteurs. They deserved it. The only people I disagree for the killing of are the religious.
rimlanin 1 month ago
@rimlanin He let his own people starve you buffoon. he was no better than Tsar Nicholas II and has given socialism an even worse name than capitalists already had.
stanleybob921 1 month ago
@stanleybob921 And how did he "let his people starve", if I may ask?
rimlanin 1 month ago
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@rimlanin The famine in the Soviet Union. Look it up
stanleybob921 1 month ago
@rimlanin Reading that sounds the same as what a Fascist might say about Hitler and his National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP) Both were pure evil.
STOPTHEEU 3 weeks ago
@STOPTHEEU But we have evidence that Hitler was a warmonger, imperialist, racist, discriminatory mass-murderer and is proud of it. Stalin made sacrifices, to save his people.
rimlanin 3 weeks ago
@rimlanin Warmonger, Stalin invaded Findland and then Poland aiding Hitler.
Imperialist, Stalin created the USSR and held many nations after world war 2 to his death.
Racist, The deliberate famine of the Ukrainians. Mass murder, Look at the Gulags.
Stalin, Hitler - Hitler, Stalin. Both brutally evil bastards with twisted ideologies.
STOPTHEEU 3 weeks ago
@STOPTHEEU Stalin's invasion of Finald was righteous. The Invasion of poland was after Poland itself refused to ally with the soviets, along with all allies, hence forcing stalin into a NAP with Nazi Germany, if he didn't want to face one-way war.
The was no "deliberate" famine. Famines happen. Their harvest was poor and some idiots were burning their already poor harvest, so Stalin couldn't collectivize them.
Only criminals died in the Gulags and I pity them not. Stalin was a great leader!
rimlanin 3 weeks ago
hey brothers and sisters , you will kick some butts out of your government , at last you face more motherfuckers in that government , so leave it alone , will you ?
I am talking to Ocuppy movement in US .
huynhminhtri 1 month ago
I have made this the national anthem of my micronation.
ShiptonShoveller 1 month ago
Stop SOPA
gokukevind 1 month ago
sticking the national flag of one country up there isn't quite in the spirit of the song.
stanleybob921 1 month ago
I'm libertarian. Come at me bro.
TheFortressOfMe 1 month ago
@TheFortressOfMe
>wants freedom
>but thinks that freedom can exist in a world where economic chaos allows hierarchies of financial power to develop
>implying right libertarianism isn't just fascism for babbys
fizzypopism 1 month ago
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Darkdrium 2 months ago
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Im not a communist but i love this song because it tells about social justice.
SerbianCommandoSCGRS 2 months ago
I would gladly sing this as my national anthem!
0111lol 2 months ago
An Englishman, a Frenchman, and a North Korean are talking. The Englishman says: "I feel happiest when I'm home, my wool pants on, sitting in front of the fire."
The Frenchman says: "I feel happiest when I go to a beach with a beautiful woman, and we do what we've got to do on the way back."
The North Korean says: "In the middle of the night, the secret police knock on the door, shouting: Kang Sung-Mee, you're under arrest! And I say, Kang Sung-Mee lives next door! That's when we're happiest!"
Aerlinger 2 months ago
@Aerlinger
To the gulag with you!
ShupaNaraic 2 months ago
danny dyer is now releasing his cover of national anthems is in stores soon
TheMrtinners 2 months ago
does this guy have a soar throat?
MalliotJuane 2 months ago
The Union Jack is the symbol of the united British nations....yes I know Scotland are talking about joining Scandinavia,
The concept Socialism failed in the UK is ridiculous. The failure was in the Capitalist banks...the actual economy in the UK till the banking crisis was at it's highest point in history....the facts and figures are all there to read.
mysteriomonkie 2 months ago
Fuck the two top rated comments, it is why socialism failed. You hear me, you killed a good idea you insufferable assholes.
peppermintjohn666 2 months ago
it's better in french, well it's originaly a french song so it makes sense
bad translation x(
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargl 2 months ago
@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargl It's because Billy Bragg bastardised the english version, find the original, it's much better.
charlottesetsu 2 months ago
loge live Capitalism
gmal436 2 months ago
@gmal436 LOL
LONG LIVE SLAVERY !!!!
XxPhoenixHarpyexX2 2 months ago
@gmal436
I agree, long live capitalism, long live FREEDOM!
TheTollundWoman 2 months ago
@TheTollundWoman hah...Capitalism fails...thats why the USA a capitalist ''free'' country is in massive debt to a communist country. aka China. wake up dickhead and get your head out of your Ass and accept the truth.
Spetsnaz2112 2 months ago
@Spetsnaz2112
Even in the midst of a "massive debt crisis" the US has a far higher standard of living than any communist state in history. And the US is in debt to Capitalist China. "To get rich is glorious." -CEO Deng Xiaoping. stop relying on juvenile curse words. you lost the cold war, we won, i'll see you at the 2018 Winter Olympics...in SOUTH KOREA best country in the world :D
TheTollundWoman 2 months ago
@Spetsnaz2112 nothing about capitalism has failed...china's economy has exploded with growth since the reforms allowing private property, more ownership of industry, etc...in other words...free market reform.
facts are stubborn...but that is the fact. the US economy is being more and more regulated, or becoming 'less' capitalistic, and therefore, having troubles.
again...facts.
KEV8551 1 month ago
@KEV8551 oh, facts? from youre own imagination? capitalism is a machine of werewolves, it is a machine so impossible that in the end it will destroy itself
supersoftaaja 1 month ago
@supersoftaaja your opinion, and you're entitled to it. i, and a vast majority of Americans humbly disagree with you.
KEV8551 1 month ago
Isn't the idea of everyone being equal... ly poor, great!
bloximonkey 2 months ago
If you're going to put the Union Jack as a picture for a communist song, at least put a hammer and sickle in the middle of the flag.
JoeytheDon1000 2 months ago
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