when you see 44+ dislikes on a video where a guy opens a can with a knife you start to notice the internet is full of retards as they all start coming out of the woodwork. myself excluded.
Now really that just bloody dangerous because what if the fucking knife accidentally slipped, I mean if someone was to try this with a dodgy knife they could slip and accidentally cut their jugular vein they would be dead within there 50 seconds or 1- 3 to 4-5 minutes to live. main artery to the brain cut no chance of survival 0% chance of survival infact -100% chance of survival
"No, as previously discussed, there were no shavings. Have you ever looked at a can opener? How do you think it opens them? By a round metal blade, that is forced into the metal and rotated. It does not produce shavings.
A lot of people were missing the point here. This test was not about opening the cans, it was about using a knife to do something that most people would consider to be misuse or abuse of a knife and show how it didn't damage it."
@awn9 you where using a sawing motion ,, that is not the same as a roller or even a chisel edge shearing the can open ,,,, much more opportunity for filings or shavings ,,, i have worked with metal all my life and yes i have looked at rollers cutting metal ,,,shearing,,, there is a difference ,,, you sawed the dam lid ,,,,, also , have you cut your hand yet by holding the can that way , be careful
@awn98q air damages knife edges ,,,, what do you think your knife's edge looks like under a magnifying glass ,,, you'd be surprised at the before and after
@iBeZeY As I've said repeatedly, DON'T TRY THIS! It is VERY dangerous, and I regretted doing it once I had started. This is not an efficient way to open a can. I would use a P-38 or Swiss Army knife. The reason I did this was a knife test to show that it could cut through steel without damage or dulling to the blade.
@gageweber99 These are no ordinary knives. They are made of special heat treated jack-hammer bit tool steel. They can chop through a cinder block with no damage. I cut a hole in a car hood with a hawk made of the same metal. A tin can is nothing, you could pry open a safe with this knife.
@probe5656 Yeah, I certainly don't advocate using this method to open a can, as there are far more efficient (and safe) ways to do it. This object of this video, was not a can opening method, but a hard-use test of an expensive, tough knife.
wow nice knife.. im about to trade for one on BF(dot)com what do you think of this knife? hows the handles? and edge retention from your prespective and any things you DONT like about it?
@silentknight2112 It's a little big knife. The handles are from the old Busse Basic series, they're a little small if you have big hands, but manageable. What I don't like about it, is due to the thickness of the blade, it's not very good for fine whittling and cutting tasks. It is pretty much a sharpened pry-bar, only thicker. It stays sharp pretty well, but not as well as SR-101. My favorite thing to use it for it splitting wood when making a fire. Thick blade helps it split the wood easier.
@awn98q ok PERFECT thats exactly what i wanted to hear (about the wood splitting and being a sharpened prybar... lol) i was looking for a good tough, rough use knife and i was hoping this would be a good canidate i really appreciate the comment thanks.
@Ryz0n89 Just because you don't understand something, doesn't mean it's weird. I was trying to get the camera to focus on the edge to show there were no nicks, chips, dings, or rolls. This is considered hard use, and abusive according to a number of knife manufacturers. This video was intended to show a hard use test of an expensive quality ($150ish) knife to test its mettle. Lesser knives could incur serious edge damage from such a test.
@SOLOK1LLA No, as previously discussed, there were no shavings. Have you ever looked at a can opener? How do you think it opens them? By a round metal blade, that is forced into the metal and rotated. It does not produce shavings.
A lot of people were missing the point here. This test was not about opening the cans, it was about using a knife to do something that most people would consider to be misuse or abuse of a knife and show how it didn't damage it.
@awn98q we know what you where trying to convey ,, we just wanted to point out the danger of holding the can that way ,,, and filings in the beans ,, why don't you just thank us and let it go
@godyrwita Nah, didn't hurt it a bit. This is one of the toughest knives you'll find. A friend of mine hammered his through a car hood with no damage.
BTW do you think you could do a table top w/ this knife-I noticed the original DM (Still for sale on scrapyard's website) is .035" thicker than other versions of the DM-cheaper too, big plus. I would love to see what kind of sheath it comes with etc.
Unfortunately, SY no longer sells this knife. IF you can find someone selling one, they usually go for about double the original price. They didn't come with a sheath, their knives never do. You can see pics I've taken of this knife on my Flickr page. My username there is: andywayne
what a great knife-it is giving my BK-2 penis envy-especially since the DM is only 70 bucks-i payed a little less than 55 for my BK-2 (which I really do love btw.
Ok...I've said this again and again. The focus of this video was not about how I opened the can, it was about the knife. Lesser knives would severely dull or chip from hard use like this, but this knife did not. It was a performance test of the knife.
And why is that strange? They sell them at Walmart, so I'm not the only one who buys them. Not every one needs 5 or 10 lbs of potatoes at a time. Also you don't have to peel them.
They make knives for military units all over the world. They're pretty expensive, so usually only special units get them unless they buy them themselves.
Oh come on man, the likelihood of that knife slipping and cutting your hand is pretty high. This is a stupid video that ought to come with a warning.....
"Don't try this at home because I am a moron that's too cheap to buy a can opener."
@Neil6000 and with being very dangerous, he treats his knife like a bitch. look as he finishes his first can. Like he is cutting bread or something lol... Really bad for you and your knife
This was not a test of an opening method. It was a performance test of the knife. Sometimes you forget your P38, so it's nice to know it can handle it.
The point of the video was not the method, it was the knife doing this with no damage to the edge. I ate them. There weren't any filings. It sheared the can.
Most people would not be able to use this method without serious injury. And you can't tell me there isn't metal filings in that can after you are done.
Are there more knives like that in the scrap yard? I need a good, free knife! Maybe you can give me yours when I go to visit you in the hospital after you chop your hand off.
yes i would agree - yes the knife gets the can open, but it would seem the knife could so easily slip off the can and either go on the table or worser still onto the other hand which is holding the can - plus I wouldn't be sawing down the last bit of the can because bits of metal shavings will end up in the food
NO WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
lelyssantiago 1 week ago
looks safe
123qwerty 1 week ago
when you see 44+ dislikes on a video where a guy opens a can with a knife you start to notice the internet is full of retards as they all start coming out of the woodwork. myself excluded.
69beargyrlls 1 week ago
@69beargyrlls Retarded Dumbass
lindaNxay 1 week ago
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
TheAdisah 3 weeks ago
guys iv tried that and the can sliped and i ended up with 8 stiches on my finger so i dont recomend this
brokenflowerz 2 months ago
@brokenflowerz dumbass
69beargyrlls 1 week ago
A video on how to take a finger off??? LOL
Thunkful2 3 months ago
@Thunkful2 dumbass
69beargyrlls 1 week ago
Holy crap, the entire video I was fearing that you were going to slice off your fingers. Just use your P38 or better yet, a P51.
TheShockwave 3 months ago
@TheShockwave dumbass
69beargyrlls 1 week ago
Now really that just bloody dangerous because what if the fucking knife accidentally slipped, I mean if someone was to try this with a dodgy knife they could slip and accidentally cut their jugular vein they would be dead within there 50 seconds or 1- 3 to 4-5 minutes to live. main artery to the brain cut no chance of survival 0% chance of survival infact -100% chance of survival
MegaJjb10 3 months ago
@MegaJjb10 funny dumbass
69beargyrlls 1 week ago
tough knife though.
radicallykind 3 months ago
using a spoon is way better dude.
radicallykind 3 months ago
@radicallykind dumbass
69beargyrlls 1 week ago
hahahahaha!
radicallykind 3 months ago
HARDCORE :D
Valtrimus 4 months ago
this vid is almost useless ,,, i have opened can lids with dollar knives with no damage to the edge ,,,can metal is very soft and shearable
heettreet 5 months ago
oh boy , metal filings in my beans ! open cans this way and eventually your holding hand is going to get lots of damage
heettreet 5 months ago 2
@heettreet Had you read the comments:
"No, as previously discussed, there were no shavings. Have you ever looked at a can opener? How do you think it opens them? By a round metal blade, that is forced into the metal and rotated. It does not produce shavings.
A lot of people were missing the point here. This test was not about opening the cans, it was about using a knife to do something that most people would consider to be misuse or abuse of a knife and show how it didn't damage it."
awn98q 5 months ago 3
@awn9 you where using a sawing motion ,, that is not the same as a roller or even a chisel edge shearing the can open ,,,, much more opportunity for filings or shavings ,,, i have worked with metal all my life and yes i have looked at rollers cutting metal ,,,shearing,,, there is a difference ,,, you sawed the dam lid ,,,,, also , have you cut your hand yet by holding the can that way , be careful
heettreet 5 months ago
@awn98q air damages knife edges ,,,, what do you think your knife's edge looks like under a magnifying glass ,,, you'd be surprised at the before and after
heettreet 1 week ago
@heettreet ignorant know it all dumbass that doesn't know shit.
69beargyrlls 1 week ago
@69beargyrlls hmmmmmmm, maybe i am an ignorant know it all dumbass ,,, but ,,,, one that has kept all his fingers
heettreet 1 week ago
Use to open cans all the time with my pocket knife when I was in the military .
mwillblade 5 months ago
What could possibly go wrong?
kelzan202 5 months ago
@kelzan202 ya i agree ,, this guy seems to think he is immune to the laws of nature
heettreet 5 months ago
stupidest thing ive done it litterarly took me 45 minutes and i cut myself twice,,, but now im enjoying my fruit (:
iBeZeY 6 months ago
@iBeZeY As I've said repeatedly, DON'T TRY THIS! It is VERY dangerous, and I regretted doing it once I had started. This is not an efficient way to open a can. I would use a P-38 or Swiss Army knife. The reason I did this was a knife test to show that it could cut through steel without damage or dulling to the blade.
awn98q 5 months ago
Awsome knife dude next time just stab the can for fun
WesternRocket 8 months ago
@WesternRocket I've seen people stab these knives through military steel ammo cans and car hoods.
awn98q 5 months ago
@WesternRocket I've seen people stab these knives through military steel ammo cans and car hoods.
awn98q 5 months ago
Mine too.
awn98q 9 months ago
my p-38 is 10 times faster
FaceSmileProduction 9 months ago
@FaceSmileProduction yes ,, and it leaves no shavings ,, like when he had to saw the dam lid
heettreet 5 months ago
Sooo complicated... I'd rather spend 3 bucks on a can opener...
lindaNxay 9 months ago
@lindaNxay Too much. Spend $.50 for a P-38. You can carry it in your wallet, or on your keychain. It has a myriad of other uses too.
awn98q 5 months ago
@lindaNxay dumbass
69beargyrlls 1 week ago
that's definitely doable, thanks for showing that.... But I'm glad I always carry a Swiss Army Knife
eeeeeeeeesssaaaaaaaa 10 months ago
@eeeeeeeeesssaaaaaaaa I used to EDC a SAK, but I don't like how the blade dulls so quickly. I do like that it easily takes a very sharp edge though.
awn98q 5 months ago
I think I'll stick with a can opener...
SamForShort3 10 months ago
lol
je187u 10 months ago
EEK! Watch those fingers.
paft 11 months ago
@paft don't worry ,,, he'll know which one to bring to the hospital
heettreet 5 months ago
@heettreet Haha
paft 5 months ago
@gageweber99 These are no ordinary knives. They are made of special heat treated jack-hammer bit tool steel. They can chop through a cinder block with no damage. I cut a hole in a car hood with a hawk made of the same metal. A tin can is nothing, you could pry open a safe with this knife.
awn98q 11 months ago
@awn98q lol....so do u suggest we get that special knife vs jst going out and buying a can opener?
omar4wb21 11 months ago
those cans parents have been looking for them for just over three years now. you murderer.
bleedingseasons 11 months ago
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bleedingseasons 11 months ago
scrap yard!!!
DroPsyDro 1 year ago
My comment wasn't posted with the video sorry. Basically the same thing. Done a little differently.
bishop85gt 1 year ago
i spent the whole time thinkin "goin through his hand in a minute"
minicrop 1 year ago
mmmmmm i love metal shavings in my green beans!
Ajrivera52 1 year ago
@Ajrivera52 If you had read the comments, this was already addressed. There were NO shavings.
awn98q 1 year ago
@awn98q when you saw metal ,,, there ARE filings ,, why don't you listen to our comments and learn somethiing ,,, don't be a thick head
heettreet 5 months ago
dont go as deep next time and itll work better
TheBigpunn421 1 year ago
when i tried this the lid sprang up and cut my finger lol..can opener was broken
probe5656 1 year ago
@probe5656 Yeah, I certainly don't advocate using this method to open a can, as there are far more efficient (and safe) ways to do it. This object of this video, was not a can opening method, but a hard-use test of an expensive, tough knife.
awn98q 1 year ago
Poor knife..
failedmission1 1 year ago
@failedmission1 Why that's nothing for this knife. If you were strong enough, you could pry open a safe door with it. :)
awn98q 1 year ago
wow nice knife.. im about to trade for one on BF(dot)com what do you think of this knife? hows the handles? and edge retention from your prespective and any things you DONT like about it?
silentknight2112 1 year ago
@silentknight2112 It's a little big knife. The handles are from the old Busse Basic series, they're a little small if you have big hands, but manageable. What I don't like about it, is due to the thickness of the blade, it's not very good for fine whittling and cutting tasks. It is pretty much a sharpened pry-bar, only thicker. It stays sharp pretty well, but not as well as SR-101. My favorite thing to use it for it splitting wood when making a fire. Thick blade helps it split the wood easier.
awn98q 1 year ago
@awn98q ok PERFECT thats exactly what i wanted to hear (about the wood splitting and being a sharpened prybar... lol) i was looking for a good tough, rough use knife and i was hoping this would be a good canidate i really appreciate the comment thanks.
silentknight2112 1 year ago
@silentknight2112 I have a bunch of pics of it I took, if you'd like to see them they're on Flickr. My username there is: andywayne
w w w.flickr.c o m/photos/andywayne/sets/72157620993600711/
(remove the spaces, it won't let me post a URL.)
awn98q 1 year ago
@awn98q awesome, thanks alot thats a beautiful knife... and your a great photographer
silentknight2112 1 year ago
@silentknight2112 Thanks! :) If you haven't checked out the Scrap Yard forum, it's a GREAT place to hang out.
awn98q 1 year ago
Why does he just keep showing the knife at the end? Shit's fucking weird. Knife fetish. Opening cans with knives fetish.
Ryz0n89 1 year ago
@Ryz0n89 Just because you don't understand something, doesn't mean it's weird. I was trying to get the camera to focus on the edge to show there were no nicks, chips, dings, or rolls. This is considered hard use, and abusive according to a number of knife manufacturers. This video was intended to show a hard use test of an expensive quality ($150ish) knife to test its mettle. Lesser knives could incur serious edge damage from such a test.
awn98q 1 year ago
yummmm metal shavings and green beans lol...
SOLOK1LLA 1 year ago
@SOLOK1LLA No, as previously discussed, there were no shavings. Have you ever looked at a can opener? How do you think it opens them? By a round metal blade, that is forced into the metal and rotated. It does not produce shavings.
A lot of people were missing the point here. This test was not about opening the cans, it was about using a knife to do something that most people would consider to be misuse or abuse of a knife and show how it didn't damage it.
awn98q 1 year ago
@awn98q we know what you where trying to convey ,, we just wanted to point out the danger of holding the can that way ,,, and filings in the beans ,, why don't you just thank us and let it go
heettreet 5 months ago
I bet the knife cost more than a can opener.
xXBloodbatXx 1 year ago
@xXBloodbatXx Yep, and more useful in the woods too.
awn98q 1 year ago
i like how someone responded with a p-51 can opener video XD
ironhikaru 1 year ago
It helps to start with a high quality knife. I don't recommend anyone try this though, it's very dangerous, you could lose a finger.
awn98q 1 year ago
tried that and the knife broke
kris200998 1 year ago
poor green beans and potatoes! stabbed violently over and over lol
superneoncolors 1 year ago
Canned potatoes?? What has the world come to?
ReisendeMac1 1 year ago
It didn't need sharpening.
awn98q 1 year ago
now take the money u invest in sharpening ur knife to buy a can opener itl do u good
Sycopathio 1 year ago
how to ruine a good knife.....use the other side.....
godyrwita 1 year ago
@godyrwita Nah, didn't hurt it a bit. This is one of the toughest knives you'll find. A friend of mine hammered his through a car hood with no damage.
awn98q 1 year ago
yea, slip and its all over. love the metal shavings in the green beans.
no damage to the edge?? but lots of paint from the tip in the food....
mrbeligos 1 year ago
@mrbeligos There were no shavings or paint.
awn98q 1 year ago
@awn98q well just be careful, that's why I purposefully carry a p-38 in the field.
mrbeligos 1 year ago
@mrbeligos Me too. I would NEVER try this in a wilderness setting, the risk for serious injury is too great.
awn98q 1 year ago
Bussekin knives are the best in the world IMO. :)
5440Borderline 1 year ago
Check my vid, i use a simple kitchen knife and open a lid without even trying in about 7 seconds.
buttondiet 1 year ago
thats totally effective if you wanna make a mess and risk stabbing your hand
Pntbll891 1 year ago
BTW do you think you could do a table top w/ this knife-I noticed the original DM (Still for sale on scrapyard's website) is .035" thicker than other versions of the DM-cheaper too, big plus. I would love to see what kind of sheath it comes with etc.
dertnberny 1 year ago
Unfortunately, SY no longer sells this knife. IF you can find someone selling one, they usually go for about double the original price. They didn't come with a sheath, their knives never do. You can see pics I've taken of this knife on my Flickr page. My username there is: andywayne
awn98q 1 year ago
w w w . flickr. c o m/photos/andywayne/sets/72157620993600711/
is the link to my DM pics.
awn98q 1 year ago
what a great knife-it is giving my BK-2 penis envy-especially since the DM is only 70 bucks-i payed a little less than 55 for my BK-2 (which I really do love btw.
dertnberny 1 year ago
made me shiver- i'd cut my hand doing something like that because i'm a klutz.
redkittyspaw 2 years ago
I open my canned potatoes with pump-action 12 gauge.....PULL!!!
ZombieOrchestra 2 years ago
Ok...I've said this again and again. The focus of this video was not about how I opened the can, it was about the knife. Lesser knives would severely dull or chip from hard use like this, but this knife did not. It was a performance test of the knife.
awn98q 2 years ago
I know my friend i was only joking, they are VERY tough knives! How long have you owned it? And how thick is the blade at the spine?
ZombieOrchestra 2 years ago
Since they first came out. Thickness is .285 inches.
awn98q 2 years ago
@awn98q ok ,, i'll say this again and again ,, my dollar knife has opened cans with no damage to the edge , this vid says nothing new
heettreet 5 months ago
@heettreet dumbass
69beargyrlls 1 week ago
And by the way, it's very strange that you have potatoes in a can..
Decebal88 2 years ago
And why is that strange? They sell them at Walmart, so I'm not the only one who buys them. Not every one needs 5 or 10 lbs of potatoes at a time. Also you don't have to peel them.
awn98q 2 years ago
For ME, it was strange, because I've never seen that before (here in Germany). Don't worry about my commentary.
And by the way, yes, your knife's perfomance was very good. It's from army?
Greetings.
Decebal88 2 years ago
They make knives for military units all over the world. They're pretty expensive, so usually only special units get them unless they buy them themselves.
awn98q 2 years ago
effective, but dowdy ;D
Decebal88 2 years ago
It looks dangerous when doing this.
theRecONcile 2 years ago
Yes, it was very dangerous.
awn98q 2 years ago
your nuts lol ahaha
AZUFO1123 2 years ago
my knife got fucked up yo... im dead
Guideist 2 years ago
Oh come on man, the likelihood of that knife slipping and cutting your hand is pretty high. This is a stupid video that ought to come with a warning.....
"Don't try this at home because I am a moron that's too cheap to buy a can opener."
Neil6000 2 years ago 21
@Neil6000 and with being very dangerous, he treats his knife like a bitch. look as he finishes his first can. Like he is cutting bread or something lol... Really bad for you and your knife
hrmarinkovic 2 years ago
There's no need for personal insults. I had a can opener, that wasn't the point. This was a knife test, not an opening method test.
awn98q 2 years ago
@Neil6000 If it does slip and cut his hand, a little duck tape and some beer will fix it right up :)
HellFire8693 1 year ago
Man, are you so lazy that you bought canned potatoes instead of peeling them yourself ? :D
Cassandre1986 2 years ago
I didn't need 5 or 10 pounds of them. If I peeled them, I might slip and cut myself! ;) :)
awn98q 2 years ago
Ahah, man. No offense but, don't you think that you have more chances to cut yourself in opening a can with a big knife ? :D
Cassandre1986 2 years ago
I was entirely mesmorized ....WHAT ...ain't you got no gun??
zwreckless1 2 years ago
thats not overkill at alllllll...
jamila4102 2 years ago
Or you could carry a 50 cent folding can opener that's less likely to slip and take your eye out. Different strokes I guess.
edwdixon5 2 years ago 4
how could you possibly take your eye out by doing this?
cut your hand maybe..
lexmarkx8 2 years ago
This was not a test of an opening method. It was a performance test of the knife. Sometimes you forget your P38, so it's nice to know it can handle it.
awn98q 2 years ago
@edwdixon5 yeah we know all the strokes you have take place in the bathroom!
frenchfried100 9 months ago
@frenchfried100 Take that back.
edwdixon5 9 months ago
@edwdixon5 it's called a joke dude sorry .
frenchfried100 9 months ago
thx
Bomburk 2 years ago
1 its hard and 2 you just spill lots.......wow
scrimbie120598 2 years ago
He makes it look easyier then it is. I cut self myself
pfrclan 2 years ago
Kids, don't try this at home. :p ;)
awn98q 2 years ago
The point of the video was not the method, it was the knife doing this with no damage to the edge. I ate them. There weren't any filings. It sheared the can.
awn98q 2 years ago
Most people would not be able to use this method without serious injury. And you can't tell me there isn't metal filings in that can after you are done.
nougatine77 2 years ago
yum, can filings in my green beans...
matoro1989 2 years ago
There weren't any filings.
awn98q 2 years ago
So no metal comes off when you saw a can with a serrated knife?
matoro1989 2 years ago
It's not serrated. It just cut through it, like a can opener would.
awn98q 2 years ago
Oh, it sounded like sawing when you got to the end.
matoro1989 2 years ago
exactly, i did it it worked except i've got some shitty knives. and i had no Filings
RubenKaboom 2 years ago
There's no need for sarcasm. This is not something I generally do, it was an example to show the toughness of this particular knife.
awn98q 2 years ago
wow, that doesn't look dangerous at all.
JumpinJesuits 2 years ago
Are there more knives like that in the scrap yard? I need a good, free knife! Maybe you can give me yours when I go to visit you in the hospital after you chop your hand off.
Umaxen 2 years ago
he says with no damage to the knife but he just severely dulled the tip so it needs to be reprofiled and im surprised the tip didnt break
robgar10 2 years ago
I guess you're not familiar with Scrap Yard. To see what it takes to break this steel, see here: knifetests.c0m/scrapyardscrapper6test.h t m l
For more info, see my page here: geocities.c0m/awn98q/Busse.h t m l
awn98q 2 years ago
Replace the zeros with o, and not spaces at the end. I had to do that for it to let me post a link.
awn98q 2 years ago
mom has same potatoes
msmusic4evr 2 years ago
what brand of knife is that?
allemander 2 years ago
Scrap Yard.
awn98q 2 years ago
I think this video is proof we DO need a can opener.
dany1441 2 years ago 31
yes i would agree - yes the knife gets the can open, but it would seem the knife could so easily slip off the can and either go on the table or worser still onto the other hand which is holding the can - plus I wouldn't be sawing down the last bit of the can because bits of metal shavings will end up in the food
rchan0 2 years ago
@dany1441 indeed.
Chugiddy 1 year ago
you should try opening one with a spoon
butchik73 2 years ago
thats a sharp ass knife
lmyhoosier 2 years ago 3
potato in can :-)
summ22 2 years ago
I cant do it- cans too tough :(
m2mfan4eva 2 years ago
potatos in a can ? are they good ?
shangbang94 3 years ago
They're ok. A lot easier than peeling and boiling them yourself. They're nice to throw in with some green beans and bacon.
awn98q 3 years ago
gotta try it sometime then :D
shangbang94 3 years ago
I'm a fellow Hoosier from Fort Wayne!
bmbullman 3 years ago
Nice to meet you. If you go to the Indy 1500 gunshow, they have a table there where they sell these knives.
awn98q 3 years ago
Wanna sell that knife to me?
bmbullman 3 years ago
not suprised
itxploded 3 years ago
i don't think i've ever seen potatoes in a can before
pedicabdr1ver 3 years ago 2
You must not cook much. ;) Those were from Walmart.
awn98q 3 years ago