Josh from the hornlists? I'd say, listen to it yourself and see what you want to change or improve on. Your vibrato is fine. Great trills, and they are so hard to do. Bunch of junior high level comments below. You play at a high level, and I'm not going to critique. You can tell what you want to change. Pickup is in distortion, so it is hard to hear all of your tone. If that is an 8D beast that you are playing, I know they are hard to master. I play on a series C 8D.
Over all great job...a few slips, but not bad...good cover up...by supporting your longer passages with plenty of air that would help over all your intonation on the higher notes...What's wrong with vibrato? I don't prefer it in my playing, but listen to some of the Russian horn players! Keep up the great work...Do you play professionally?
Disagree with your comment about vibrato. Not true at all! Even within an orchestra that is not ture, and certainly not for solo horn. Listen e.g. to Czech horn players Bedrich Tylsar, Zdenek Tylsar or Peter Damm, my fav horn player
i didn't mean to insult you but as a horn player i never thought or would think of doing vibrato on horn. i guess it's what you like but i don't like it!
lol What shit school of music did you attend? There is so much Horn music that calls for vibrato it's not even funny. The trick is knowing when to use it and how much, but like it or not, vibrato is a big part of horn playing... especially solo work.
there is a difference between horn music 'calling for vibrato' and being stupid and doing vibrato...never in my life have i heard a professional hornist do vibrato on horn!
You should broaden your genres then, I've seen many professional horn players use vibrato. It has to be done tastefully and subtly unless it's noted other wise. I typically wouldn't add much vibrato to say something like Mozart's concertos, but on much slower paced solos the absence of any kind of vibrato makes a dull a piece of music, but hey if you want sound bland then be my guest...
Not a good example at all. Vibrato comes to horn artists about the same time a triple axel comes to an ice skater during their training. It's the last thing they learn. Vibrato is so easy to do poorly. Poorly done vibrato ruins an otherwise great passage and takes away far more than it adds. Baumann is a master and his vibrato is perfectly done as is also true for the others on Raphael's list. Lastly, vibrato is the surest way to lose an audition for any major orchestra. Otherwise, very well don
Perhaps I took it wrong. You're right, HB's vibrato is wonderful. I've taught for over half a century and my goal was success for my students. Once ALL aspects have been mastered (many years), then build your vibrato. Intonation must be perfected first. Poor vibrato can subtract so much more than it adds.
I played this piece in 1987 and wouldn't attempt it now! Didn't listen to it with the music, and yeah there is the odd missed note, imagine that. Very hard piece to play in a recital with other demands too. Overall you get the hunting call sound and what a range it demands. Thought the piano was a bit overpowering, maybe the mics, maybe put the lid to half down. Enjoy your playing very much. John in Canada
Good job. But the intonation is not very well some times. I play this piece too now (I'm 15^^) and it's really hard because of the fast notes. I play it with a "Alexander 103 Model" and it sounds really great. Try something like that. ;)
good job! i am looking at this piece as a possibility for next years solo/ensemble contest, but after hearing u play it, i probably do not have a chance! ;)
My guess is that you've played this a thousand times perfectly in a practice room. It sounds great, and I bet that the couple of flubs I heard were mostly because you were tired. It's not the horn's fault. If you want a new horn, get one, but don't blame the flubs or the Youtube sound on the horn. Any chance of hearing the rest of the recital?
I think you are very musical, I can see that your technic is very good too, I don't understand why the bad notes, and I agree with others, you need other horn, maybe a professional holton, there are many with very good soun, and are bigs like conn... anyway, congratulation. bye (excuse me for me english, I speak spanish, I'm colombian)
I think this would sound alot better without a Conn 8D. You've got great dynamic contrast and at least fairly good tone (it's hard to tell on the video), but DEFINITELY your horn isn't keeping up it's tone when you get loud. great stopped playing. And I feel like I've got to comment on the trills, too, because those were plenty better than I can do them!
Great playing. Very challenging piece to attempt, and even harder to get right. Lord knows i haven't yet. My only comment is about interpretation. I am dazzled by the technical playing, but am left wishing for some emotion. You have great dynamic contrast, but it feels like a volume knob. My advice would be to play within the dynamics by varying intensity and listening to the line. This is something I have struggled with alot and feel like I have never quite mastered. Again, great job.
Challenging piece, congratulations! The high E-F-G-A get mixed-up a bit, but great control of all registers (especially the basement). Super stopped work! Thank you for posting.
Very nice - say, watch the Herman Baumann lesson clips - you would sound even better using his teachings - unfortunately, in French, but understandable anyway :-(
You look familiar... were you at Kendall Betts Horn Camp this last summer? Great Job by the way... I too am working on this piece... I might decide to put up a video of it up =]
I thought his was Penn and Teller... lmao!
bottledmalice 2 years ago
hey, man, sounds good! what were you a sophomore or something back in 07? too bad the mic couldn't quite cut it on the ff stuff
pauljosephblackstone 2 years ago
I hope the microphone has problems, because your tone is a bit off.
HCSCreveange 2 years ago
Josh from the hornlists? I'd say, listen to it yourself and see what you want to change or improve on. Your vibrato is fine. Great trills, and they are so hard to do. Bunch of junior high level comments below. You play at a high level, and I'm not going to critique. You can tell what you want to change. Pickup is in distortion, so it is hard to hear all of your tone. If that is an 8D beast that you are playing, I know they are hard to master. I play on a series C 8D.
Lorenzo8D 3 years ago
Different Josh!
beaver6d9 3 years ago
Over all great job...a few slips, but not bad...good cover up...by supporting your longer passages with plenty of air that would help over all your intonation on the higher notes...What's wrong with vibrato? I don't prefer it in my playing, but listen to some of the Russian horn players! Keep up the great work...Do you play professionally?
hornplayer322 3 years ago
first of all, vibrato on horn is NEVER good on horn! second, needs work on stopped horn! third and last, OVER-BLOWING!
omedrano 3 years ago
Disagree with your comment about vibrato. Not true at all! Even within an orchestra that is not ture, and certainly not for solo horn. Listen e.g. to Czech horn players Bedrich Tylsar, Zdenek Tylsar or Peter Damm, my fav horn player
raphaelhudson 3 years ago 4
i didn't mean to insult you but as a horn player i never thought or would think of doing vibrato on horn. i guess it's what you like but i don't like it!
omedrano 3 years ago
lol What shit school of music did you attend? There is so much Horn music that calls for vibrato it's not even funny. The trick is knowing when to use it and how much, but like it or not, vibrato is a big part of horn playing... especially solo work.
scled1007 2 years ago
there is a difference between horn music 'calling for vibrato' and being stupid and doing vibrato...never in my life have i heard a professional hornist do vibrato on horn!
omedrano 2 years ago
You should broaden your genres then, I've seen many professional horn players use vibrato. It has to be done tastefully and subtly unless it's noted other wise. I typically wouldn't add much vibrato to say something like Mozart's concertos, but on much slower paced solos the absence of any kind of vibrato makes a dull a piece of music, but hey if you want sound bland then be my guest...
scled1007 2 years ago 3
go listen to peter damm
CornoDan 2 years ago
@omedrano
jmunnecom 2 years ago
Herman Baumann. Noticeable example.
voicesinurhead01 3 years ago
Not a good example at all. Vibrato comes to horn artists about the same time a triple axel comes to an ice skater during their training. It's the last thing they learn. Vibrato is so easy to do poorly. Poorly done vibrato ruins an otherwise great passage and takes away far more than it adds. Baumann is a master and his vibrato is perfectly done as is also true for the others on Raphael's list. Lastly, vibrato is the surest way to lose an audition for any major orchestra. Otherwise, very well don
sekboi 2 years ago
Did you think I replied to the comment saying vibrato wasn't good on horn? Because I meant to say Herman Baumann was excellent at vibrato.
voicesinurhead01 2 years ago
Perhaps I took it wrong. You're right, HB's vibrato is wonderful. I've taught for over half a century and my goal was success for my students. Once ALL aspects have been mastered (many years), then build your vibrato. Intonation must be perfected first. Poor vibrato can subtract so much more than it adds.
sekboi 2 years ago 2
I can agree with that.
voicesinurhead01 2 years ago
I played this piece in 1987 and wouldn't attempt it now! Didn't listen to it with the music, and yeah there is the odd missed note, imagine that. Very hard piece to play in a recital with other demands too. Overall you get the hunting call sound and what a range it demands. Thought the piano was a bit overpowering, maybe the mics, maybe put the lid to half down. Enjoy your playing very much. John in Canada
scudderbunch 3 years ago
pich was worse
need more practices
lan3626 3 years ago
ok guys..if this is good job..I don't know what your expectations are...but this guy has a lot to work..
Flaviul 3 years ago
careful not to get too brassy, nice feeling for the piece
frenchispanicdude03 3 years ago
fancy me coming across this :)
relish643 3 years ago
great job! make sure to keep your support sturdy throughout all of your playing, especially during softer passages.
pushdontpull1 3 years ago
Good job. But the intonation is not very well some times. I play this piece too now (I'm 15^^) and it's really hard because of the fast notes. I play it with a "Alexander 103 Model" and it sounds really great. Try something like that. ;)
But nice ;)
greeetz
P0dDels 3 years ago
"Gosh, josh", nice job :) I'm one the portuguese that were with you in nove stracecci (czech republic)
rmatosinhos 4 years ago
good job! i am looking at this piece as a possibility for next years solo/ensemble contest, but after hearing u play it, i probably do not have a chance! ;)
dolphinxx123 4 years ago
My guess is that you've played this a thousand times perfectly in a practice room. It sounds great, and I bet that the couple of flubs I heard were mostly because you were tired. It's not the horn's fault. If you want a new horn, get one, but don't blame the flubs or the Youtube sound on the horn. Any chance of hearing the rest of the recital?
kortesmakifan 4 years ago
I think you are very musical, I can see that your technic is very good too, I don't understand why the bad notes, and I agree with others, you need other horn, maybe a professional holton, there are many with very good soun, and are bigs like conn... anyway, congratulation. bye (excuse me for me english, I speak spanish, I'm colombian)
danialeka 4 years ago
I think this would sound alot better without a Conn 8D. You've got great dynamic contrast and at least fairly good tone (it's hard to tell on the video), but DEFINITELY your horn isn't keeping up it's tone when you get loud. great stopped playing. And I feel like I've got to comment on the trills, too, because those were plenty better than I can do them!
oligopolization 4 years ago
ahaha trills r so fun to play!!!
AZNSk8er4lyf 4 years ago
well.....he could be playing a Hans Hoyer.....
bradhorn14 4 years ago
Great playing. Very challenging piece to attempt, and even harder to get right. Lord knows i haven't yet. My only comment is about interpretation. I am dazzled by the technical playing, but am left wishing for some emotion. You have great dynamic contrast, but it feels like a volume knob. My advice would be to play within the dynamics by varying intensity and listening to the line. This is something I have struggled with alot and feel like I have never quite mastered. Again, great job.
wdmurrell 4 years ago
Challenging piece, congratulations! The high E-F-G-A get mixed-up a bit, but great control of all registers (especially the basement). Super stopped work! Thank you for posting.
Froggie2121 4 years ago
thanks for posting this video hornjosh-it's been a real help to me in working out how this piece is supposed to sound!
magnadoodley 4 years ago
Very nice - say, watch the Herman Baumann lesson clips - you would sound even better using his teachings - unfortunately, in French, but understandable anyway :-(
EXAviatrix 4 years ago
yo where do u go to school?
horn0543 4 years ago
I am still playing on an 8D (I've had it for almost 8 years and it is definitely time for a change! haha)
hornjosh 4 years ago
You look familiar... were you at Kendall Betts Horn Camp this last summer? Great Job by the way... I too am working on this piece... I might decide to put up a video of it up =]
paxman40L 4 years ago
Yes I was at KBHC. Good times haha. Thanks for the comment and i look forward to seeing your video!
hornjosh 4 years ago
awesome job josh!! luv bacons
sadiemisty040 4 years ago