The top guns for competition-1-Perazzi 2-Beretta (Only the Trident series DT10/DT11) 3-Kreighoff 4-Kemen 5-Miroku 38 (for it's balance, not it's triggers).
To see what the pros shoot when they HAVE to make the shot, see what the Olympic shooters are using. Perazzis occupy 75 percent of the podiums with the DT10 picking up the rest. Brownings/Kemen and even Kreighoffs are non existent. The steel, triggers and wood density all combine for the ability to fire the gun 200 times with equal accuracy/cooling/ barrel distortion etc. Blazer/Miroku/Beretta 68/ Cynergy/ don't belong anywhere near the top 10.
L7GGD- Your overview contains the correct guns but the order in which they appear are wrong. I will explain: The main difference between guns of lesser quality and their more expensive counterparts is not the esthetic but something much more tangible. The locking system, triggers,steel quality and wood density all contribute to the difference in gun quality and ultimately it's price. The Beretta Trident and the Perazzi both have leaf spring/removable triggers. Fast triggers win competitions.
I've been skeet shooting for 3 months. I usually shoot 300 rounds every Saturday. My first shotgun is a browning 625 field with skeet chokes. I always shoot over 20 and have tapped 25 a few times. It's funny cause I do better than the older guys with the Perazzis and the Krieghoffs. The guys at the range have shot my hat 3 times already and I'm thinking of competing in tournaments.
Long ago I wanted a new gun because I was consistantly winning ATA events, I told my gunsmith that I wanted the Browning Special Trap... He said that I would not like it, I said whats not to like it has EVERYTHING? He said Pachmeyr rents them at thier fiels in L.A. county... Rent before you buy! I did, it halfed my score... Gunsmith said "It's because you can really shoot, you don't need all the little helpers..." porting, nutty looking bridge etc... He is right.
Let me keep my Winchester 101 single and meet me at the trap field, better yet a Mossberg 500 and let my gunsmith set the point of impact to match my Winchesters and I will embarass you.
I have used the Winchester 101 Single since I was 15, at 35 I picked up a Winchester 101 double fiels for the barrels and use it on my old stock and action after matching point of impact so I could shoot doubles. I am now 53 and seldom miss and I have bested Sean Hawly on many shoots.
Obviously among the top shooters in the world, brownings are inexistant. Consequently, the most common guns used among competetive shooters are the Blaser F3, the krieghoff k80, Berettta dt10, and the Perazzi mx8 or mx2000. Please remove all of the other shitty guns from this list.
@Bayer57 the guns you mention are high end guns worth many thousands in any currancy, the fact is they are luxury items but if you are a good shot you can break clays with any gun that fits, these fancy guns are usually bought by someone who is experienced shot and have learned to shoot well already but still think the gun has made the difference, i have seen many guys shoot with brownings, miroku, berretta etc etc and they can shoot 100 clays straight on many occasions all first barrel
I've out shot thousand dollar shotguns with my old 200$ Mossberg 500 I bought used. It's not the gun, it's the shooter. Nothing like pissing off a bunch spoiled rich kid by letting a redneck 16 year old out shoot them. :)
you have no idea what your talking about. My dad won 4 world championships in skeet and used a krieghoff k-80 most of the time and for the first 9 years he shot he used a perazzi.
Top 10 for what purpose? For what shooter? Remember my ball peen hammer is better than yours. For me guns are tools and in terms of breaking targets none of these guns will break one more target than the others given a reasonable fit and set up for the sport.
dont know whether it was just a bad gun but a friend of mine bought a brand new browninjg cynergy and after 11 shots an ejector snaped in half, i shoot skeet with a hatsan escort and am hitting 22, 23 consistantly have been shooting skeet for around 4 months
you are easily the dummest fuck i have ever heard of. i will admit you havee some of the best guns but they are no where near the right order. WHat the fuck where you thiking email me when you decide to re-do this and we'll get it right.
@nyclaybreaker just so you know, miroku have been making most of the browning mechanisms for many years since browning realised they made a better quality copy than the origonal was. They are in partnership now and as you will see, a miroku is now classed as an equal or better gun to browning as they are mostly made in same factory,. Browning medalist is made in italy and was cheap and chearful but still shot ok but never was classed as a quality gun for example.
It's all subjective obviously. And by the way, Browning makes B25's in their Belgian custom shop that cost 40,000 pounds and that no Perrazzi can touch.
I am continously amazed at how unbelievably ugly the dedicated clays guns can be - Kemen, Krieghoff, Blaser, etc. They either look like spaceships or cuckoo clocks.
@kmorgan94 brownings barrels are so heavy and unbalanced. there design and quality is nice but handiling is not so good. never held a perazzi or krieghoff but i own a blaser and it is balanced and the handiling is great. i personally think brownings are lower quality guns compared to italian guns or german guns
@personalcobra I'm not sure what Brownings you've been handling, but the Belgian B25's are widely considered to be some of the best balanced and most carefully struck barrels of any modern gun outside of English SxS's prior to WWII. Blaser is a fine gun, but it's barrels are overbuilt for millions of target loads - which is fine, it's a dedicated clays gun. Blaser also has been a leader in employing the user adjusted weights in the forend to compensate for their dead handling and barrels.
Before you guys go grab the torches and the pitchforks cause he put Berettas and Brownings infront of Kreigoff and Perazzi consider this: The Kriegoff could very well be a "better" gun (and I put that in quotes cause of the highly subjective nature of the word itself) than your average Browning, but how much better? A Kreigoff costs a good 8 grand more than a Browning (which aren't cheap to begin with) but is it really 8 grand better. I mean there is better and there is 8 grand extra better
you guys sound like children!, my dad can beat up your dad!, its the indian, not the arrow, i guarentee i know some guys who would kick most of your asses around the clays course with his 870 pump, because it fits him, he knows where it shoots, and he's just a good shooter, fact is for most guys these high dollar guns are to display, talk about, and look cool at the range(not that there is anything wrong with that)...the "BEST" is the guy who goes home with the money!!
All high dollar break actions. Which is what skeet shooters prefer. Have a Remington 11, Winchester model 12, Browning Stalker in 12 ga. And a Remington 870 Wingmaster and Browning BPS both in 20 ga. Which are great for hunting. Would like to shoot clays for practice.
The blazer is a good bit of kit, but seen a few pictures of the stock splitting around the action, apparently due to them making the wood a bit thin, think I will stick with my DT10, seems to work well and lots of champs seem to use them, one day I might be as good.
Your comparing two guns with two different shooters. Your saying you can't hit in the 20's with a kreigoff? I wasn't comparing shooters like you. I was comparing guns. In the end it comes down to what fits you best but in the long run perazzi and kreigoff are priced that way for a reason and have been around so long for a reason.
This is personal opinion i to shoot a browning cynergy 32 "brilliant gun and shoot well with it . But everyone different and fittment is the key issue that many people ignor
i noticed that all these were trap guns, you may find different results if you shoot sporting or skeet, most of the good shots i see these days (who are not sponsored my a manafacturer) seem to go for the Krieghoff K80, i mainly shoot sporting and a little skeet and have shot many makes, i used a beretta 682 gold E for a long time, sold it for a browning 525 heritage, realised my mistake and bought a beretta DT10, try one of these and you will be hooked. (one day might buy a K80 though)
I hate to break your heart, but use Google before you put your own "pride and joy" on here. You just said that the Cynergy beats the K80... That's an $800, 2 year, 8,000rd gun over a $14,000, lifetime, 600,000rd, piece of art. The K80's trigger assembly could be traded for 7 Cynergy shotguns.
You left the MX8/MX2000 out of the lineup because....
The World shoot with tow (2) guns only....Berettas and Perazzis...periot !!!!!!!.I came from Rio de Janeiro Brazil fom the C.A.T shooting competition for International Skeet ISSF.I saw 2 Kreigoff the rest was Perazzis MX series,Berettas DT-10 and Berettas 680 series.
and BTW...american skeet suxx big time,real men shoot international skeet !!!
I would like to know why my words and work seem to be the basis for this. Could I have an explanation please from the 'author' ? I am refering to the main text of course, not the commentary - Michael Y
@peterk814 Really? Because there about the 2 most expensive mass production trap guns out there is why there so good. Perazzi runs 14k a good deal. Kreig depends, usually around 20k. Beretta 682, combo set, vented ribs and high rib costs 4k Max and is still the best gun out there, and not because of the price.
I am about to buy #3 on this countdown cuz of this video. I had a hard time finding it in the same color but I did. I cant wait to get it and start destroying the clays.
@PerazziMX8 Dont think so.We did some Register targets in american skeet.My good frend a Dr who have a Kreigoff 20g 32" barrel with adjustable stock and adjustable recoil pad,a $20,000 + gun and he hit an average 13-17 per round.I got a Beretta 686 Blackwing field gun 28" barrel 12g a $1,527 gun shooting an international loads of 22grams and i hit an average of 20-23 targets per round.
Now Mr. Perazzi,come and shoot international skeet with me and ill beat you any day of the week.
@PerazziMX8 I have to agree with your comment about the Perazzi, never put money down for a Kreigoff so can't comment on that, Kemen have troubles with triggers even right out of the box. mainly what I can say about Perazzi is that they had better be as good as they are for the price they are.. I'm sure you can agree with that.. I have the Beretta DT10 Trident and for my money its better than Perazzi / Keman and pretty much any other gun in in that price range though
you cant base that off of who shoots it and how many medals theyve won....Browning and Beretta are shot by far more shooters and they have been around ALOT longer....this isnt just based on who wins what with which gun
@PerazziMX8 not realy, dont get me wrong those guns r extremely beautiful but i think he is talking about performance my friends perazzi and Ceaser Gurreini both have had problems in the matter of months of buying them. my cynergy has not had any problems in the year i have bought it.
A top 10 shotgun list is a personal preferance. The number one gun on the list should be the gun that fits and suits you best. Most guns are equally as good but you pay for the name. Some people prefer a raised rib, some don't, some people prefer a wide rib, some prefer thin rib, some people like 2 beads and some shoot using no beads. If you are using this list to choose buying a gun then they are all good, just find the one with the correct comb height and you can't really go wrong :)
FRIEND CAN YOU TELL ME PLS ANYTHING ABOUT BERETTA ASE90. I OWN ONE WHICH IS WITH THE OLYMPIC GAMES SING ON BOTH SIDES AND THE GOLD CORONE ON THE BUTTERFLY......THEY TOLD ME IS ONLY 90 PCS IN THE WORLD...IS THAT TRUE?
i have shot most of these guns and i have to agree gmgjss the triggers are the main factors in these shotguns i preffer the perazzi's and krieghoff's over any of these guns browning trigger's hang and same way with the beretta's but the beretta's are not as bad as the brownings. browning triggers are garbage along with their firing pins they get worn down way to quick and their tech suppport for ordering new parts is terrerible
I have owned a beretta ase and a 687 for many years shot thousands of clays and game never had any problems I also own a perazzi Mx 12 and I like how it handles
but it down to what you like personally for me it a beretta
Berreta makes damn good guns, except there 9mm >.>(i prefer the colt 45. its an american classic) but still, italians make good guns, they make good switchblades(i own one) and some pretty good food.
I own a DT-10 and have owned most of these guns except for Kemen. It's not the arrow OR the Indian. It's the TRIGGERS. Browning triggers are sponges compared to the leaf spring system of Perazzi and Beretta (In the DT models only). Kreighoff comes a close second. The forth should go to Galazan (Fabbri-style) Ivo Fabbri makes the best guns but are price prohibitive ergo not on this list but his design lives on in the Perazzis and Galazans. Triggers are the key-pathways from brain to target.
@Sorbik I have had a lot of trouble with an SV10. Have obtained a refund and have bought a different brand all together (Perazzi). They are not the guns they used to be.
Hi have not owned or shot theSV10 so could not give an oppinion
But have owned a 682 gold for many years and 686 sporting aswell
so i recomend any 680 model you fancy it,s a gun that been around for 30 years tried and tested by thousands of shooters world wide you should get trouble free shooting and a gun that will last a lifetime for the price you pay
Shouldn't if be more about the skill of the shooter. my first time shooting Field & Game. I scored only 2 clays less then a guy using a Beretta and I was using a Stoeger Conder Luxe... a brand name, fancy wood and engraving doesn't destroy clays !!!
i dont agree with this list.... the k80 should be higher up on the list and anybody ever hear of zoli arms.... cmon really?! it hands down should be on the list and if u disagree ur dumb
One of my fathers friends has a blaser F3 another have a Miroku MK38, my dad got a Kemen KM 4 one of my friends got a Perazzi MX-12 And one of my other friends a Beretta DT-10, and i got a Beretta silver pidgeon sporting(You need that as number one;)) But i dont like browning. i would say it sucks but we all have different tastes of guns:)
Think PRICE enters into this? Dont forget the Krieghoff is a souped up Remmington!! I would put Miroku 3800+ Mk38 in front of a Kemen. Perazzi got to be higher up but look at the Cost? (Price) Browning B25`s have and still stand test of time. Here in Uk Mk 38`s top gun for claying by a long way...........Dt10`s OK but pricey now for what they are...
i would say the best two guns are a beretta citori 625 and a benelli supersport. the benelli is not an over under but it flows very nicely, in the vid responce i addes a vid where i shoot the beretta.
kreighoff kolar and perrazi are the best guns to buy if you can afford them. beretta is better made than browning belive me i have a bt 99 and a beretta 391 teknys gold target and a 682 gold e unsingle. and i haven't had to replace any parts on the beretta's but i go through parts always with my browning
i would have to disagree with this list ... i have shot trap skeet and sporting clays for many years sure the 682 and 687 are very well built guns but the 3 best guns to buy are kreighoff kolar and perazzi if you planeon competing but you cannot beat the price of a browning or a beretta
I agree that anybody shooting trap for fun can do so buying 400$ O/Us every 4-5 years.
The DT10 and the MX12 are there with their price tags for a reason, though. Getting a new gun, getting it fitted and getting used to it is not desirable when you do it professionally. DT10 and MX12 are designed and built to discharge a few million cartridges. A competition shooter can complete a career with a single one.
I agree, I have a Benelli M2 and I can shoot skeet just as good as the folks with the Citori's and the CGs. I even borrowed a Yildiz which is about the cheapest o/u you can get and hit perfect with it. I didn't like the light weight but it will perform just as good as anything else. At 400.00 a pop you can buy a bunch an outlast the 3200.00 CGs....
Citori?
benkerr69 5 days ago
those who say the f3 is overrated obviously never shot international
classics4lf 6 days ago
browning B25 D2g should bet there its better than 525 although 525 is very good
jordansmallperson 1 week ago
The top guns for competition-1-Perazzi 2-Beretta (Only the Trident series DT10/DT11) 3-Kreighoff 4-Kemen 5-Miroku 38 (for it's balance, not it's triggers).
gmgjss 1 week ago
To see what the pros shoot when they HAVE to make the shot, see what the Olympic shooters are using. Perazzis occupy 75 percent of the podiums with the DT10 picking up the rest. Brownings/Kemen and even Kreighoffs are non existent. The steel, triggers and wood density all combine for the ability to fire the gun 200 times with equal accuracy/cooling/ barrel distortion etc. Blazer/Miroku/Beretta 68/ Cynergy/ don't belong anywhere near the top 10.
gmgjss 1 week ago
L7GGD- Your overview contains the correct guns but the order in which they appear are wrong. I will explain: The main difference between guns of lesser quality and their more expensive counterparts is not the esthetic but something much more tangible. The locking system, triggers,steel quality and wood density all contribute to the difference in gun quality and ultimately it's price. The Beretta Trident and the Perazzi both have leaf spring/removable triggers. Fast triggers win competitions.
gmgjss 1 week ago
That was well put together but not too accurate. I dont understand what you mean by clayshooting, trap? skeet? Sporting? Int trap? Int Skeet?
Mr25straight 2 weeks ago
hmmmmmmmmm i still like my 200 dollar gun if u can shoot bird with it u can shoot clay no need for fancy shit
H95Shooterv12 2 weeks ago 2
No auto-laoders or pump actions? No Remington 1100? That gun's a legend in shooting!
SuperSnowMonkeys 2 weeks ago
As these words have been written by me would you please acknowledge your source - Michael Yardley
PositiveShootingVods 4 weeks ago
Browning Cynergy, and Benelli Super Vinci are my choice of weapon
dclipe 1 month ago
Obviously one persons opinion. But, the facts from shooting Championships just don't support it.
Perazzi's dominate international competition. Bonilla's, Stafford..
Krieghoff's have multiple championships and are well respected.
Harrison III wins with the excellent DT 10.
I love the old Browning Superposed Broadway traps, the first.
All are excellent, but only a few can honestly be the best.
BigMPerazzi 4 months ago 2
Cynergy at number 4 hahahaha ya cant make it up!
leacol36 4 months ago
this video is a joke the guy has kemen and k-80 lower than the others boo hoo idiot.
leacol36 4 months ago
how does browning citori and browning cyerngy compare to you and which is better? What about beretta compared to browning over and unders
fishblade2 4 months ago
@762SLR762 Clueless!!
r1kev 4 months ago
All these guns are nice but the gun doesnt make the shooter.
bbrown4261 5 months ago
The Browning performs amazing! At least for me. There's a gun for everyone folks! In fact I'm thinking of getting another one.
imperialbedrooms 5 months ago
I've been skeet shooting for 3 months. I usually shoot 300 rounds every Saturday. My first shotgun is a browning 625 field with skeet chokes. I always shoot over 20 and have tapped 25 a few times. It's funny cause I do better than the older guys with the Perazzis and the Krieghoffs. The guys at the range have shot my hat 3 times already and I'm thinking of competing in tournaments.
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supergerlich 5 months ago
I am sorry but you sir are truly one of the most confused mentel patients i have heard of. YOU ARE A FUCK!!!!!!!!!
supergerlich 5 months ago
Long ago I wanted a new gun because I was consistantly winning ATA events, I told my gunsmith that I wanted the Browning Special Trap... He said that I would not like it, I said whats not to like it has EVERYTHING? He said Pachmeyr rents them at thier fiels in L.A. county... Rent before you buy! I did, it halfed my score... Gunsmith said "It's because you can really shoot, you don't need all the little helpers..." porting, nutty looking bridge etc... He is right.
RCWorks 6 months ago
Let me keep my Winchester 101 single and meet me at the trap field, better yet a Mossberg 500 and let my gunsmith set the point of impact to match my Winchesters and I will embarass you.
I have used the Winchester 101 Single since I was 15, at 35 I picked up a Winchester 101 double fiels for the barrels and use it on my old stock and action after matching point of impact so I could shoot doubles. I am now 53 and seldom miss and I have bested Sean Hawly on many shoots.
RCWorks 6 months ago
Obviously among the top shooters in the world, brownings are inexistant. Consequently, the most common guns used among competetive shooters are the Blaser F3, the krieghoff k80, Berettta dt10, and the Perazzi mx8 or mx2000. Please remove all of the other shitty guns from this list.
Bayer57 6 months ago
@Bayer57 the guns you mention are high end guns worth many thousands in any currancy, the fact is they are luxury items but if you are a good shot you can break clays with any gun that fits, these fancy guns are usually bought by someone who is experienced shot and have learned to shoot well already but still think the gun has made the difference, i have seen many guys shoot with brownings, miroku, berretta etc etc and they can shoot 100 clays straight on many occasions all first barrel
bogoff99 4 months ago
I've out shot thousand dollar shotguns with my old 200$ Mossberg 500 I bought used. It's not the gun, it's the shooter. Nothing like pissing off a bunch spoiled rich kid by letting a redneck 16 year old out shoot them. :)
chevy2046 6 months ago
you have no idea what your talking about. My dad won 4 world championships in skeet and used a krieghoff k-80 most of the time and for the first 9 years he shot he used a perazzi.
hrdgeauxtigers8 6 months ago
My brother just won a halliburton skeet shooting competition using a browning 12 guage pump against 30 year old men it was preety awesome
RedNeckMilkman1000 6 months ago
not having a dig at these guns they all look real nice and probably shoot great out of my price range though =)
eddyage 6 months ago
Top 10 for what purpose? For what shooter? Remember my ball peen hammer is better than yours. For me guns are tools and in terms of breaking targets none of these guns will break one more target than the others given a reasonable fit and set up for the sport.
MrARichardC 6 months ago
dont know whether it was just a bad gun but a friend of mine bought a brand new browninjg cynergy and after 11 shots an ejector snaped in half, i shoot skeet with a hatsan escort and am hitting 22, 23 consistantly have been shooting skeet for around 4 months
eddyage 6 months ago
The gun doesn't matter i've a Baikal sporting edition and I get 25/25...
BlindedHolocaust 7 months ago
I hate all these faggots who think its necessary for a 1000 dollar gun to shoot trap good, i shoot a 300 dollar 870 and get 22's and 23's
you dont need blinders on your glasses to shoot trap lol
deadleppards76 7 months ago
you are easily the dummest fuck i have ever heard of. i will admit you havee some of the best guns but they are no where near the right order. WHat the fuck where you thiking email me when you decide to re-do this and we'll get it right.
supergerlich 7 months ago
Just so you know the Miroku MK-38 is basically a Browning 425...but the Japanese plant's version
nyclaybreaker 7 months ago
@nyclaybreaker just so you know, miroku have been making most of the browning mechanisms for many years since browning realised they made a better quality copy than the origonal was. They are in partnership now and as you will see, a miroku is now classed as an equal or better gun to browning as they are mostly made in same factory,. Browning medalist is made in italy and was cheap and chearful but still shot ok but never was classed as a quality gun for example.
bogoff99 4 months ago
It's not the arrow, it's the indian
bszwed 7 months ago
It's all subjective obviously. And by the way, Browning makes B25's in their Belgian custom shop that cost 40,000 pounds and that no Perrazzi can touch.
I am continously amazed at how unbelievably ugly the dedicated clays guns can be - Kemen, Krieghoff, Blaser, etc. They either look like spaceships or cuckoo clocks.
kmorgan94 9 months ago
@kmorgan94 brownings barrels are so heavy and unbalanced. there design and quality is nice but handiling is not so good. never held a perazzi or krieghoff but i own a blaser and it is balanced and the handiling is great. i personally think brownings are lower quality guns compared to italian guns or german guns
personalcobra 9 months ago
@personalcobra I'm not sure what Brownings you've been handling, but the Belgian B25's are widely considered to be some of the best balanced and most carefully struck barrels of any modern gun outside of English SxS's prior to WWII. Blaser is a fine gun, but it's barrels are overbuilt for millions of target loads - which is fine, it's a dedicated clays gun. Blaser also has been a leader in employing the user adjusted weights in the forend to compensate for their dead handling and barrels.
kmorgan94 9 months ago
@kmorgan94 oh dude im talking about the american brownings like citori and cynergy not the belgian
personalcobra 9 months ago
Before you guys go grab the torches and the pitchforks cause he put Berettas and Brownings infront of Kreigoff and Perazzi consider this: The Kriegoff could very well be a "better" gun (and I put that in quotes cause of the highly subjective nature of the word itself) than your average Browning, but how much better? A Kreigoff costs a good 8 grand more than a Browning (which aren't cheap to begin with) but is it really 8 grand better. I mean there is better and there is 8 grand extra better
SpikeJonesTheCr0oked 10 months ago
you guys sound like children!, my dad can beat up your dad!, its the indian, not the arrow, i guarentee i know some guys who would kick most of your asses around the clays course with his 870 pump, because it fits him, he knows where it shoots, and he's just a good shooter, fact is for most guys these high dollar guns are to display, talk about, and look cool at the range(not that there is anything wrong with that)...the "BEST" is the guy who goes home with the money!!
christopherg8106 10 months ago
My favorite is the cz-upland ultralight
OK74u 11 months ago
My uncles guns are way more impressive than these.
shpongloidia 11 months ago
ive got a perazzi mx3 combo witha pfs stock and it will kick your beretta browning and kemen anyday
hawgduo1 11 months ago
I use kemen KM 4 and my dad also have one. Best skeetshooting gun ever made! - you can take parts from some perrazi's and put right over to a kemen:)
Thomas462 11 months ago
All high dollar break actions. Which is what skeet shooters prefer. Have a Remington 11, Winchester model 12, Browning Stalker in 12 ga. And a Remington 870 Wingmaster and Browning BPS both in 20 ga. Which are great for hunting. Would like to shoot clays for practice.
jrwel14 11 months ago
Citori 4 barrel set at skeet but the 3200 was always my favorite.
BWNurse1 11 months ago
i have a lamber and 2 brownings and i rate them very highly for clay pigeon shooting
Elitesnypa 11 months ago
sorry, my mossberg maverick 88 with the full barrel has outshot big name guns, nothing fancy pump action
HuskerFishing 11 months ago
@HuskerFishing Sure thing cuz
BWNurse1 11 months ago
pretty good list, what is songs name sounds like its from Red dead redemption...am i wrong?
crunch2407 11 months ago
The blazer is a good bit of kit, but seen a few pictures of the stock splitting around the action, apparently due to them making the wood a bit thin, think I will stick with my DT10, seems to work well and lots of champs seem to use them, one day I might be as good.
BPC1526 11 months ago
Blaser should be more like #4
santhony74 11 months ago
are you sure that cynergy doesnt own you
JM6067 1 year ago
Your comparing two guns with two different shooters. Your saying you can't hit in the 20's with a kreigoff? I wasn't comparing shooters like you. I was comparing guns. In the end it comes down to what fits you best but in the long run perazzi and kreigoff are priced that way for a reason and have been around so long for a reason.
PerazziMX8 1 year ago
where is the beretta m2?
theroyalgrapefruit 1 year ago
This is personal opinion i to shoot a browning cynergy 32 "brilliant gun and shoot well with it . But everyone different and fittment is the key issue that many people ignor
wishbone12340 1 year ago
Browning 525 FTW
Die4StudioProduction 1 year ago
what the hell is the term "olympias" only heard this one on black ops, guns are listed as trap, sporting, or skeet depending on theie purpose.
daffyhitter 1 year ago
Uhh dude those guns are actually all olympias. you've gotta do ur research.
BorntoskateJr 1 year ago
i noticed that all these were trap guns, you may find different results if you shoot sporting or skeet, most of the good shots i see these days (who are not sponsored my a manafacturer) seem to go for the Krieghoff K80, i mainly shoot sporting and a little skeet and have shot many makes, i used a beretta 682 gold E for a long time, sold it for a browning 525 heritage, realised my mistake and bought a beretta DT10, try one of these and you will be hooked. (one day might buy a K80 though)
daffyhitter 1 year ago
@daffyhitter K-80 is a great gun but for the money the Blaser has it beat.
santhony74 11 months ago
I hate to break your heart, but use Google before you put your own "pride and joy" on here. You just said that the Cynergy beats the K80... That's an $800, 2 year, 8,000rd gun over a $14,000, lifetime, 600,000rd, piece of art. The K80's trigger assembly could be traded for 7 Cynergy shotguns.
You left the MX8/MX2000 out of the lineup because....
squrelbate 1 year ago
As Perazzi são as Royce Royce, mas a Cynergy não quebra e possue um desenho mais moderno, sem falar na diferença de preço.
Que já atirou sabe que o calcanhar de Aquiles das Perazzis são suas molas do gatilho.
PertigueiroBR 1 year ago
nice guns personally I shoot a 686 wish I had a perazzi tho
WillLeviMarshall 1 year ago
ive owned a 682. gold and a perrazi mx 2000 both are great guns
jbbraybray 1 year ago
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you are all fags
k2snowboarder24 1 year ago
New Haven 600AT > all.
hahahahahhaha
FullContactFighers 1 year ago
The World shoot with tow (2) guns only....Berettas and Perazzis...periot !!!!!!!.I came from Rio de Janeiro Brazil fom the C.A.T shooting competition for International Skeet ISSF.I saw 2 Kreigoff the rest was Perazzis MX series,Berettas DT-10 and Berettas 680 series.
and BTW...american skeet suxx big time,real men shoot international skeet !!!
rickynazario1969 1 year ago
cynergys are garbage, i'm sorry. Blaser has the best mechanical design, as well as looks.
MrMattfisher123 1 year ago
skb4000 should be in there!!
melbourneshuffler22 1 year ago
I would still like an explanation from the author as to why this "top 10" seems to be based on my technical writing - michael yardley
yardleypen 1 year ago
@yardleypen probaly he knows that you know what you are talking about, Sir.
bogoff99 4 months ago
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I would like to know why my words and work seem to be the basis for this. Could I have an explanation please from the 'author' ? I am refering to the main text of course, not the commentary - Michael Y
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yardleypen 1 year ago
I like beretta, I LOVE BERETTA
berettero 1 year ago
k80 at 6 it should be 1
TheK80fan 1 year ago
i have many guns but the one i preffer is the browning cynergy but i guess its personal choice .
wishbone12340 1 year ago
krieghoff and perazzi 1 and 2 browning not even close
peterk814 1 year ago
@peterk814 Really? Because there about the 2 most expensive mass production trap guns out there is why there so good. Perazzi runs 14k a good deal. Kreig depends, usually around 20k. Beretta 682, combo set, vented ribs and high rib costs 4k Max and is still the best gun out there, and not because of the price.
NEBRASKANfarley96 1 year ago
KEMEN KM-4 is the best.
JJCC85 1 year ago 3
had a browning 325 grade 5,,,,nice gun.
now shooting a miroku mk70 grade 3. very good gun to shoot.
shooting is still a lot about the man and not the gun.
money spent on dear guns doesn't mean broken clays.
any of the your guns mentioned are very nice guns, personal choice on which is best i think.
if you can shoot well with a gun thats the best one
bogoff99 1 year ago
Browning b525 ftw! Got myself one :)
swissfa18 1 year ago
I am about to buy #3 on this countdown cuz of this video. I had a hard time finding it in the same color but I did. I cant wait to get it and start destroying the clays.
Opethfan79 1 year ago
@Opethfan79 i have the 525 the best gun i have eva shot with
AcGCynergy 1 year ago
How did you come up with that rating scale? You must by high to think a Kreighoff is #6!!
theskeetkid 1 year ago
Perazzi and Kreigoff beats beretta and browing any day. This video is not very accurate.
PerazziMX8 1 year ago 11
@PerazziMX8 Dont think so.We did some Register targets in american skeet.My good frend a Dr who have a Kreigoff 20g 32" barrel with adjustable stock and adjustable recoil pad,a $20,000 + gun and he hit an average 13-17 per round.I got a Beretta 686 Blackwing field gun 28" barrel 12g a $1,527 gun shooting an international loads of 22grams and i hit an average of 20-23 targets per round.
Now Mr. Perazzi,come and shoot international skeet with me and ill beat you any day of the week.
rickynazario1969 1 year ago
@PerazziMX8 probably just means best gun for the money, Perazzi and Keigoff are alot more expensive
scottycuk 11 months ago
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I would not say Perazzi and Kriegoff beats Beretta and Browing but it's true that in this video, these gun do not appear and it's not normal...
Nevertheless, i Browning is the best ration Q/P u can buy...
& i personnaly do not like Kriegoff but it"s personnal taste.
Marcuspleindpuces 11 months ago
@PerazziMX8 im srry, but i prefer Browning and Beretta over kriegoff and perazzi anyday
ACDCROCKS9601 10 months ago
@PerazziMX8 I have to agree with your comment about the Perazzi, never put money down for a Kreigoff so can't comment on that, Kemen have troubles with triggers even right out of the box. mainly what I can say about Perazzi is that they had better be as good as they are for the price they are.. I'm sure you can agree with that.. I have the Beretta DT10 Trident and for my money its better than Perazzi / Keman and pretty much any other gun in in that price range though
floisy 9 months ago
@PerazziMX8 people have different opinions, i think the winchester 101, and the remington peerless are some of the best.
LongShotz11 8 months ago
@PerazziMX8 perazzi is for gays.... and kreigoff? thats shit. learn about your guns noob, i play cod.
DrumNBassHero 8 months ago
@PerazziMX8 It doesn't matter what your gun is, the only thing that matters is the fool behind the gun pulling the trigger...
HuseyinAtai 8 months ago
@PerazziMX8
you cant base that off of who shoots it and how many medals theyve won....Browning and Beretta are shot by far more shooters and they have been around ALOT longer....this isnt just based on who wins what with which gun
nyclaybreaker 7 months ago
@PerazziMX8 not realy, dont get me wrong those guns r extremely beautiful but i think he is talking about performance my friends perazzi and Ceaser Gurreini both have had problems in the matter of months of buying them. my cynergy has not had any problems in the year i have bought it.
braggersum 7 months ago
@PerazziMX8
Depends who is shooting. It's not the arrow it's the indian
bszwed 6 months ago
@PerazziMX8 i shoot with a guy who has a perazzi and another guy with a browning, the browning wins most of the time its whos behind the gun
p4intball4lyfe 5 months ago
I bought a Browning B525 three days ago. Its just amazing. Im the happiest man alive :)
swissfa18 1 year ago
I Prefer Browning Citori Series... Besides, its all about the shooter, not the firearm, but damn, Beretta makes some fancy shotgun..
xXCocytusXx 1 year ago
what about the bt-99
ilovekershaw 1 year ago
A top 10 shotgun list is a personal preferance. The number one gun on the list should be the gun that fits and suits you best. Most guns are equally as good but you pay for the name. Some people prefer a raised rib, some don't, some people prefer a wide rib, some prefer thin rib, some people like 2 beads and some shoot using no beads. If you are using this list to choose buying a gun then they are all good, just find the one with the correct comb height and you can't really go wrong :)
sammx26 1 year ago
FRIEND CAN YOU TELL ME PLS ANYTHING ABOUT BERETTA ASE90. I OWN ONE WHICH IS WITH THE OLYMPIC GAMES SING ON BOTH SIDES AND THE GOLD CORONE ON THE BUTTERFLY......THEY TOLD ME IS ONLY 90 PCS IN THE WORLD...IS THAT TRUE?
aristodemario1 1 year ago
Ya, you know guns!!! Was that a puzzle that we had to put in order LOL
Aneesobeid 1 year ago
No. 1 Beretta
No 2. Perazzi
No.3 Krieghoff K-80
No. 4 Blaser F3
MrFishlike 1 year ago
Beretta 682 1 inch rib extended stock and raised cheek plate, more than a pro would ever need in a gun.
NEBRASKANfarley96 1 year ago
i have shot most of these guns and i have to agree gmgjss the triggers are the main factors in these shotguns i preffer the perazzi's and krieghoff's over any of these guns browning trigger's hang and same way with the beretta's but the beretta's are not as bad as the brownings. browning triggers are garbage along with their firing pins they get worn down way to quick and their tech suppport for ordering new parts is terrerible
igoescrazy 1 year ago
I have owned a beretta ase and a 687 for many years shot thousands of clays and game never had any problems I also own a perazzi Mx 12 and I like how it handles
but it down to what you like personally for me it a beretta
arwelpandy 1 year ago
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I have a 687 EELL, it's sweet as honey. Check my channel for a video.
ColonelAllan 1 year ago
Berreta makes damn good guns, except there 9mm >.>(i prefer the colt 45. its an american classic) but still, italians make good guns, they make good switchblades(i own one) and some pretty good food.
XDMWeaponCollector 1 year ago
nice! i own #3!
smokinclays 1 year ago
noice! i own #3!
smokinclays 1 year ago
I own a DT-10 and have owned most of these guns except for Kemen. It's not the arrow OR the Indian. It's the TRIGGERS. Browning triggers are sponges compared to the leaf spring system of Perazzi and Beretta (In the DT models only). Kreighoff comes a close second. The forth should go to Galazan (Fabbri-style) Ivo Fabbri makes the best guns but are price prohibitive ergo not on this list but his design lives on in the Perazzis and Galazans. Triggers are the key-pathways from brain to target.
gmgjss 1 year ago
I disagree .
Finest competiton guns on the market are -
1 Beretta SO5
2 Perazzi MX8/SC3/MX2000
3 Krieghoff K80
4 Beretta DT10
5 Miroku MK38
These are in the elite league , and stand out way above the rest.
whitet555 1 year ago
are you a metallica fan
SuperMetallicarocker 1 year ago
this is art
poliser0 1 year ago
Anyone have an opinion on the new Beretta SV10? I'm deciding between a SV10, 682 or 686 sporting
Sorbik 1 year ago
@Sorbik I have had a lot of trouble with an SV10. Have obtained a refund and have bought a different brand all together (Perazzi). They are not the guns they used to be.
HamptonSmall 1 year ago
@Sorbik i have the 682 golde sporting. i love it.
rothybaby 1 year ago
@Sorbik
Hi have not owned or shot theSV10 so could not give an oppinion
But have owned a 682 gold for many years and 686 sporting aswell
so i recomend any 680 model you fancy it,s a gun that been around for 30 years tried and tested by thousands of shooters world wide you should get trouble free shooting and a gun that will last a lifetime for the price you pay
good luck
arwelpandy 1 year ago
wooooooooooo METALLICA!!!
coltar1234 1 year ago
it is the Indian, not the Arrow...
clark5000 1 year ago
hi does the miroku mk38 have 3inch chambers ?
shaoub123 1 year ago
hi does any one know if the miroku mk38 has 3inch chambers or 2.3/4
shaoub123 1 year ago
Shouldn't if be more about the skill of the shooter. my first time shooting Field & Game. I scored only 2 clays less then a guy using a Beretta and I was using a Stoeger Conder Luxe... a brand name, fancy wood and engraving doesn't destroy clays !!!
TheKodiak72 1 year ago
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TheKodiak72 1 year ago
cynergy above krieghoff wtf lol krieghoff blates top and erazzi second then miroku cynergy is like 100th THUMBS UP IF U THINK CYNERGY IS SHIT
horatio2308 1 year ago
i think the blaser and the cynergy should switch but thats just me
10Caios 1 year ago
i dont agree with this list.... the k80 should be higher up on the list and anybody ever hear of zoli arms.... cmon really?! it hands down should be on the list and if u disagree ur dumb
BloodCrustSupperTime 1 year ago
One of my fathers friends has a blaser F3 another have a Miroku MK38, my dad got a Kemen KM 4 one of my friends got a Perazzi MX-12 And one of my other friends a Beretta DT-10, and i got a Beretta silver pidgeon sporting(You need that as number one;)) But i dont like browning. i would say it sucks but we all have different tastes of guns:)
Thomas462 1 year ago
You have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to competition shotguns!!
mq32lh70 1 year ago
Guy has no clue!
mkanavos 1 year ago
I knew the music is one of those instrumental tracks from S&M by Metaliica
cac82622 1 year ago
@cac82622 *Metallica*
cac82622 1 year ago
Think PRICE enters into this? Dont forget the Krieghoff is a souped up Remmington!! I would put Miroku 3800+ Mk38 in front of a Kemen. Perazzi got to be higher up but look at the Cost? (Price) Browning B25`s have and still stand test of time. Here in Uk Mk 38`s top gun for claying by a long way...........Dt10`s OK but pricey now for what they are...
sofalugger 1 year ago
i would say the best two guns are a beretta citori 625 and a benelli supersport. the benelli is not an over under but it flows very nicely, in the vid responce i addes a vid where i shoot the beretta.
fatcatrocky 1 year ago
@fatcatrocky i believe you mean the BROWNING citori.
guitarguyf15 1 year ago
@guitarguyf15
i have been looking for a new gun that week so i am going crazy but yes, i mean the browning.
fatcatrocky 1 year ago
its apparent you know very little about guns
igoescrazy 1 year ago
kreighoff kolar and perrazi are the best guns to buy if you can afford them. beretta is better made than browning belive me i have a bt 99 and a beretta 391 teknys gold target and a 682 gold e unsingle. and i haven't had to replace any parts on the beretta's but i go through parts always with my browning
igoescrazy 1 year ago
i would have to disagree with this list ... i have shot trap skeet and sporting clays for many years sure the 682 and 687 are very well built guns but the 3 best guns to buy are kreighoff kolar and perazzi if you planeon competing but you cannot beat the price of a browning or a beretta
igoescrazy 1 year ago
these are all nice guns
but it depends on what you like and what feels right to you
i am a picky shooter and i know someone that had a remington 11-87 (not the fancy type of gun)
but then invested into a perazzi and ended up trading back for his 11-87
adamdieter1204 1 year ago
No offense but the blazer is about 300 times better than the miroku.
Halofreak131313 1 year ago
I agree that anybody shooting trap for fun can do so buying 400$ O/Us every 4-5 years.
The DT10 and the MX12 are there with their price tags for a reason, though. Getting a new gun, getting it fitted and getting used to it is not desirable when you do it professionally. DT10 and MX12 are designed and built to discharge a few million cartridges. A competition shooter can complete a career with a single one.
BTW, I own a Cynergy with syntetic stock.
ratbertovich 1 year ago
Amazing Browning Cynergy!
yamahatmax 1 year ago
Good video!!
HighSierraBob 1 year ago
this song is from a live show intro to Metallica... great song
drummerlars 1 year ago
every shotgun looked the same lol
kul000 2 years ago
gun porn
invaderzim908 2 years ago
The best is a DT 10
prpz 2 years ago
The winer is DT 10
prpz 2 years ago
really K80 as #6 below a cynergy? seems a bit skewed. K and P guns are one and two easily by far
peterk814 2 years ago
mossberg 500 all the way!!! synthetic stock. just my opinion.
dieselmac 2 years ago
I'm sorry but Browning doesn't hold a candle to Ceasar Guerini. I own two of those. The Tempio Light in 28 gauge and The Maxum Sporting in 20 gauge.
Of course this is my opinion. I love my CG's. I will say that Brownings are great, I've shot them before. I really like their Citori line.
GreenGhost5 2 years ago
da Best the Remington Primer Upland
thewarbirdlover1 2 years ago
what is the chepest gun of the video
JSextank 2 years ago
Could you please post name of the song?
ludijoja 2 years ago
68 series! can you specify? is it the 686 or 682 or...?
Im planning to get the Cynergy...do you recommend?
thnx
mrabihnaboulsi79 2 years ago
i shoot a black ice cynergy....have put 4000 shells through it...never let me down!
686 more of a game gun, cynergy designed for clays...watch the prices of chokes though...£80.00 each in the uk or $58 from blue ridge in america
snakeshite71 2 years ago
I got the new summit impact a few weeks ago and its amazing!
383honda 2 years ago
it's all a matter of personal preferance...for example i don't like shooting over and unders.
HaughtonFutbal 2 years ago
I agree, I have a Benelli M2 and I can shoot skeet just as good as the folks with the Citori's and the CGs. I even borrowed a Yildiz which is about the cheapest o/u you can get and hit perfect with it. I didn't like the light weight but it will perform just as good as anything else. At 400.00 a pop you can buy a bunch an outlast the 3200.00 CGs....
algadster 2 years ago
hhhmmmm. remington and benelli are not in the top 10 ?
yahoorif 2 years ago
I dont like the Kemen
IDigHerps 2 years ago
I have the Browning 525 Sport - great gun!!!
Pikerray 2 years ago
beretta dt10 suk the oald ac90 is the one to have.
killving 2 years ago