(Part3)Among the records in the aforementioned Documents of the Safety Zone are detailed complaints about misconduct attributed to Japanese military personnel. They include a total of 26 murders, only one of which was witnessed (to that account is appended a note describing the “murder” as a lawful execution). Also, recent research has proven that there is absolutely no basis for the claim that there was a massacre in that city. How could Japanese soldiers kill 300,000 Chinese?
(Part2)That figure remained unchanged, at 200,000, throughout the remainder of 1937. By the end of January, it had increased to 250,000. These statistics completely and utterly destroy the credibility of any accusation of a massacre that claimed 300,000 victims.
(Part1)The International Committee administered to the civilians remaining in Nanking, who were gathered in the Safety Zone. Records of the International Committee’s activities were published in 1939 as Documents of the Nanking Safety Zone by a British company in Shanghai, under the auspices of the Nationalist Government’s Council of International Affairs. According to those records, the population of Nanking prior to its occupation by the Japanese was 200,000.
Weren't the Japanese reporters that follow Japanese army into Nanjiang not paid?
There were a lot of press censorship by the Japanese Army administration before the reporters's wrtiings were allowed to published. There Japanese reporters dared not write the truth of massacre and also a lot of them was brainwashed to whitewash the Japanese actrocity and fabricated a wellcoming Chinese mass towards the Japanese.
@Th China can't abuse Japan because there are no prove Japan guilty about the Nanking Massacre. The Chinese always show no evidence of any vigorous critical attempt to distinguish between valid primary materials and other materials: photographs, for instance, which are known to be fabricated, or from different areas and different times, continue to be used to prove Japanese guilt in the winter of 1937-38 at Nanjing. Though, many teachers have taught the massacre to kids in schools in China.
I told you already a small portion of evidences lack credibility did not prove the whole genocide was a makeup. Only some evidences presented were faulty that is it. A judge would considered all evidences presented to balance his judgement on final verdict. That was it the war criminals stood at the Tokyo court were convicted to commit war crimes in Nanjiang Massacre.
@Thak11 (Part1/2)Where were 300,000 of dead bodies? Why did many Chinese people come back to Nanking after Japanese occupied the city? Why did Chinese government paid money to Harold Timperley for editing book What War Means which was written about so-called the Nanking Massacre?
@Thak11 (Part2/2)Why did not Mao announce about the massacre in the international mass media conference from 1937 to 1938? Why Chinese government could not prove the murder of 340,000 when the IMTFE was opened? Why Chinese government edited at least 147 pictures in the Nanking Massacre Museum?
China has no right to accuse Japan of crimes such as the Nanking Massacre because the massacre was made up story using fabricated evidence. Obviously what China says is pure fiction! Demonstration of this fake story by the Chinese government is libel and slander. It is natural that Japanese raising an objection.
@popeye5655 (Part1)Suddenly, did the Japanese military attack to the China? No! The reason for staying in China was the Boxer Protocol which was signed on Sep.7, 1901 between the China and the 8-Nation Alliance. The Japanese stationed troops in South Manchuria for protect it as the same as another countries under the boxer protocol. In fact, many Chinese military had already fought each other. Mao who was a leader of CPC finally caught Chiang Kai-shek who was a leader of KMT.
@popeye5655 (Part2)They struggled jointly against Japan. This is called the Second United Front, which means the alliance between KMT and CCP during the Second Sino-Japanese War in 1937.
Therefore, China shelled into the Japanese camp 4 times in July 7, 1937 10:40 PM. The Marco Polo Bridge Incident often used as the marker for the start of the Second Sino-Japanese War.
(Part2)On the other hand, the CCP is loudly denouncing the 'Nanking Massacre' which had been insisted on its happening more than sixty years ago, but not even clearly defined. I don't want to hear JAP or psychopaths, such a kind of words. Hey, Chinese Commentator in Youtube, tell me logical reasons.
(Part1)More than 1,200,000 people were massacred since being unfairly annexed to Communist China in 1955. The very Communist China declared that the problem of Tibet is a problem relating to domestic affairs and refused the interference of the foreign nations.
(Part2)However, these collections show no evidence of any vigorous critical attempt to distinguish between valid primary materials and other materials: photographs, for instance, which are known to be fabricated, or from different areas and different times, continue to be used to "prove" Japanese guilt in the winter of 1937-38 at Nanjing.
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(Part1)The majority of academic research on the Nanjing Incident is conducted in Japanese, English and Chinese. Of the three language groups, Japanese has produced the most sophisticated research, with the debate in English lagging decades behind. The most objective Chinese language materials are the collections of various primary sources, including the recollections of many of the Chinese military personnel in Nanjing.
There are many books regarding Nanjiang Massacre not only "What War Means", people reading these books still can analyse creditbility of the writers if they are intelligent enough. How about Iris Chang's "Rape of Nanjing" ? Japanese Rightists put on threatening phone calls, letters constantly turning herself suicidal and finally committed suicide.
@Thak11 (Part1)One of the Photos displayed at the 'Memorial Hall of Victims in Nanjing Massacre'. It is also displayed in the book The Rape of Nanking. The book states "The Japanese rounded up thousands of women. Most of them were gang raped or forced into military prostitution. (Politburo of Military Committee, Taipei)" However, this photo has nothing to do with the gang-rape nor the military prostitution.
@Thak11 (Part2)This photo has appeared in the Asahi Graph, a weekly photo journal, published in Japan on November 10, 1937, about one month before Nanking battle. A set of four pictures have appeared in the journal with the explanation, titled as "Utopia amidst the Gun-power: The 'Rising Sun' Village South of the Yangtze." The very picture is captioned with "A group of women and children from the Rising Sun Village returning from the fields, guarded by our soldiers."
@Thak11 (Part3) Iris Chang used a black pen, and she erased a womans white teeth in the picture. Do you know why? All of women smiled in the picture. After they finished work in the fields and they backed home with Japanese soldiers. They must have been pleasant chat with Japanese. Analyzing Photographic Evidence of the Nanking Massacre by historians and other recent scientific research reveal that there are no photographs attesting to a massacre in Nanking.
@Thak11 (Part4)You know, at least 143 pictures are distorted by Chinese government.
You said Iris Chang had tried to generalize this as the act against humanity before she died. I dont think so. There is no doubt that Iris Chang spread out wrong history which was the Nanking Massacre. This is one of the crimes malicious slanders.
@undertakerRach omfg.. can u stop fucking spamming all these vids? keep ur crappy lies to urself ok? ur a fucking nerd to be spamming like this all the time. jsut stfu
@SHUTUPNOOB654 (Part1)A Japanese whose name was Tokuyasu Fukuda, he was Japanese embassy staff, visited to the committee, he was surprised at the situation because John Magee and George Ashmore Fitch was writing reports, which were reported by some Chinese young guys.
@SHUTUPNOOB654 (Part2)The guys rushed into the committee office, and they told, “Japanese soldiers were raping women”, and “Japanese soldiers were seizing commodities from Chinese family”. John Magee and George Ashmore Fitch typed the stories without any inspection. Therefore, Mr. Fukuda protested to them many times. In fact, Mr. Fukuda went to check the Japanese crime scene which was reported a robbery by a Chinese guy, there was no people, no broken and no any noise.
@undertakerRach dude. i told u to fucking stop spamming. so stop. no1 will believe u, its life. pple believe different things. u cant force us to believe ur crap pro-japanese lies
@SHUTUPNOOB654 (Part4)In Nov. 1937, during the Battle of Nanking, the Nationalist Party established The International Propaganda Section (IPS). According to the top-secret document entitled “Outline of International Propaganda Operations,” the IPS held 300 press conferences in Hankou between Dec 1, 1937 and Oct 24, 1938.
(Part5) About 35 foreign journalists and diplomats attended there. However, Chinese didn’t explain the fact which was so-called the Nanking Massacre even once during any of these 300 conferences was a statement or announcement.
@undertakerRach OH. MY. FUCK. GOD. NO1 WILL FUCKING BELIEVE U FOR THE LAST TIME.. STOP FUCKING SPAMMING ME AND THE OTHER PPLE. STOP FUCKING SPAMMING THESE VIDEOS AND GET A LIFE. WHAT U THINK IS TRUE, NOT EVERY1 ELSE WILL THINK. U CANT FORCE THEM TO THINK THAT WAY. U COULD BE WRONG. GOD... GET A LIFE!
@undertakerRach thats just a retarded diss. i know u can read my comments. u know? no1 gives a shit about what u say. no1 will listen so stop spamming all these videos i see. (spam means u repeatedly comment on it) get a life man.. go get a girlfriend and get a life.
@GilaTomster One of the foundations of the massacre myth is based on the book which is called "What War Means", edited by Harold Timperley. But he was an advisor to the Chinese Nationalist governments Ministry of Information. The section was propaganda section which was established by KMT (Kuomintang, Chiang Kai-shek) in China during the War. Timperley was paid by the propaganda section for editing the book.
In fact, it estimated that a far larger number of 65,000,000 people had been victimized in China, is still existing under the dictatorial political system, and still persecuting minorities and committing human right violations ceaselessly. Especially in Tibet, more than 1,200,000 people, corresponding to roughly 20% of the total population, were massacred since being unfairly annexed to Communist China in 1955.
Yes, in a number of incidents we cannot guarantee that all Chinese are sacred but some bad guys as well. Anyway sidetrack to bad deeds done by some Chinese soldiers did not waive Japanese atrocity crime in Nanjiang.
(Part2)Monition should be made here, however, that the Chinese themselves are not altogether exonerated of depredations, at least to some extent, before the entry of the Japanese. During the last few days some violations of people and property were undoubtedly committed by them. Chinese soldiers in their mad rush to discard their military uniforms and put on civilian clothes, in a number of incidents, killed civilians to obtain their clothing.
(Part1)Around December 10, which date was Japanese surrounded the Nanking city, the city was completely fallen into a state of anarchy by Chinese soldiers. The Chinese soldiers in holy terror came to be out of control and began looting. James Espy, the vice American Council at Nanking, reported to the American Embassy at Hankow concerning the aspect of the city right before the fall of Nanking as follows :
The terrible fact is, whatever Japan did to Manchuria, the Maoists did far far worse to the whole of China. Communism is the world's greatest catastrophy. I am no apologist for Japan. As allies Hitler & a decidely Fascist inspired gov't besides, we had to stop them. Soviet agents connived to turn a newly liberated China over to that homicidal maniac. What a disaster.
yep. & you should live in current timeline of the world. U.S. & Japan are allies. So as Germany now. complaining about past instead of building the futures does not make sense. think what can you do to make your neiborhood to be much better place.
200,000 were only the people kept inside the safety zone , the maximum amount of Chinese the foreigner could protect at the time. Outside that zone there were other Chinese not counted in.
The land where is called Manchuria was Korean and Tungusic territory for thousands of years and then Manchurian after the rise of Manchu identity. Manchus finally conquered China in 1644 AD and ruled Chinese for hundreds of years. Of course, Chinese were prohibited from entering the sacred land during the colonial period.
That's why Chinese first invaded Manchuria and so did Japanese after the fall of Manchurian empire.
it looks much better & civilized when japan was there...well, it's too old news. Now Japan & the United states of America Is Allies since WW2. Time has chnaged to be better.
(Part3)Among the records in the aforementioned Documents of the Safety Zone are detailed complaints about misconduct attributed to Japanese military personnel. They include a total of 26 murders, only one of which was witnessed (to that account is appended a note describing the murder as a lawful execution). Also, recent research has proven that there is absolutely no basis for the claim that there was a massacre in that city. How does China claim that 300,000 Chinese were killed by Japanese?
(Part2)That figure remained unchanged, at 200,000, throughout the remainder of 1937. By the end of January, it had increased to 250,000. These statistics completely and utterly destroy the credibility of any accusation of a massacre that claimed 300,000 victims.
(Part1)The International Committee administered to the civilians remaining in Nanking, who were gathered in the Safety Zone. Records of the International Committees activities were published in 1939 as Documents of the Nanking Safety Zone by a British company in Shanghai, under the auspices of the Nationalist Governments Council of International Affairs. According to those records, the population of Nanking prior to its occupation by the Japanese was 200,000.
If all those information on taking those photos are available down to the minute details then it must be fabrications or arrangement by the ruling body concerned. It was war time unrest fightings people desperately saving their own lives.
You must have neglected there was a killing competition between two Japanese army soldiers during the massacre in Nanking for the first 1000 killings by sword (Chinese beheaded). Photographs of the winner soldiers holding Japanese sword and heads of the beheaded were shown in the Japanese newspaper back home in Japan.
(Part2)The January 1939 issue of Lowdown, an American magazine, commented about these photos that this was in fact a communist Chinese officer torturing a Chinese prisoner. Chinese propaganda section manufactured many fake photos. At least 143 pictures in the Nanking Massacre Museum were edited by Chinese government. Their propaganda is still ongoing.
(Part1)In the fall of 1937, the Associated Press (AP) distributed one of the photos as a Japanese soldier using a Chinese national as a guinea pig for bayonet practice. Iris Chang's The Rape of Nanking carries the same kinds of photos of Japanese atrocities. However, the soldier wears a turned-down-collared uniform, which no Japanese soldier wore at that time, so the man is not a Japanese soldier.
How can Japanese admit the wrong fact such as the Nanking Massacre?
Analyzing Photographic Evidence of the Nanking Massacre by historians and other recent scientific research reveal that there are no photographs attesting to a massacre in Nanking. You know, at least 143 pictures are distorted by Chinese government.
(Part3) At last the Chinese beheaded the ladies. In another place, the Chinese cut a pregnant womans abdomen and took out her baby. In the Chinese history, they committed a lot of cruel crimes which were similar satiation as above. They made imaginary stories; Japanese raped and killed many Chinese, based on their experiences. These stories are very similar. The Tungchow Mutiny happened in China on July 1937, and Chinese called the Nanking massacre happened in Dec 1937.
(Part2)The Tungchow Mutiny happened in Tōngzhōu, China on 29 July 1937. Japanese troops and civilians were surprised attacked by Chinese troops. According to the testimonies in The International Military Tribunal for the Far East, one of the witnesses said a Japanese woman master and her co-workers, who had worked a hotel in Tungchow, China, were raped by the Chinese, and they were tied up their wrists together.
(Part1)The 3000 of armed Chinese attacked 200 of the Uyghur people while Uyghurs were walking back to their dormitory after their night work on June, 25 2009 PM 11:30.
Only 10 of the Uyghurs survived. The Uyghur ladies were raped by the Chinese and two ladies heads were tied to a tree by the ladies hair.
@Thak11 (Part1)The majority of academic research on the Nanjing Incident is conducted in Japanese, English and Chinese. Of the three language groups, Japanese has produced the most sophisticated research, with the debate in English lagging decades behind. The most objective Chinese language materials are the collections of various primary sources, including the recollections of many of the Chinese military personnel in Nanjing.
@Thak11 (Part2)However, these collections show no evidence of any vigorous critical attempt to distinguish between valid primary materials and other materials: photographs, for instance, which are known to be fabricated, or from different areas and different times, continue to be used to "prove" Japanese guilt in the winter of 1937-38 at Nanjing.
The Nanjing Incident Recent Research and Trends by David Askew
Say that to all the relatives of the Chinsese people killed in Nanjiang and count how many angry responses from them for a try. I can assure you there would be numerous people to evidence Japanese massacre there. Lost of sons, parents, brothers and sisters kin to these people are no jokes.
@Thak11 After the battle, many Nanking citizens, who had abhorred bad deeds done by the Chinese military in the city, welcomed the Japanese military. One of the photos shows Japanese soldiers and the Nanking citizens wearing armbands of the flag of Japan and giving cheers, on the day of the Japanese militarys ceremonial entry into Nanking ("Sino-Japanese War Photograph News #15," the Mainichi Shinbun newspaper, published on Jan. 11, 1938)
@Thak11Some of the photos and videos, which obviously show restoration of order in the Safety Zone immediately after the seizure of Nanking, and also the documentary films which show the Chinese citizens rushing to get ID cards. These photos and films are made by the trustworthy sources, and coincided with the witness of over 100 Japanese correspondents dispatched to Nanking then.
@Thak11 On the contrary, some of the pictures, which were claimed to have been taken at the time of the massacre, have never indicated the date, the places, and the names of photographers. Also, some of them are showing the entirely different things, and others are forged ones.
If those pictures were already there twenty years ago and documented then, the pictures were genuine as that time no softwares like the photoshop etc. were available and the photos were of the analog type hard to alter.
The pictures were not intended for court use at the time of taking by ordinary people so the date, the places and the names of photographers may not be available especially it was taken during that unrest war time.
It was the Russians who came and took Manchuko first , the Japanese army there surrendered to the Russians. The Russian took all the Jajanese weaponry and transferred it to the CCP army then withdrew from Manchuria. The CCP later fought a civil war from there with the KMT of ROC and took whole China.
Your fact here Chinese invaded Manchuria is wrong.
@Thak11 Manchuria was hardly related to Chinese. Manchuria was Manchus territory after the rise of Manchu identity. Manchus finally conquered China in 1644 AD and ruled Chinese for hundreds of years. Of course, Chinese were prohibited from entering the sacred land during the colonial period.
That's why I said that Chinese invaded Manchuria and so did Japanese after the fall of Manchurian empire.
If you stay on the subject of whether the Japanese committed atrocities, you will find that YES, without any doubt, they did. You had rather been captured by Germans than by Japanese, and by self admitted interviews of participating soldiers and eye-witness accounts, the soldiers had beheading contests, and raped women--murdering them and their babies without mercy. Why do you think the US dropped the H-bombs? The Japanese and Germans would have divided the world. We had to defeat the Axis.
(Part2)However, these collections show no evidence of any vigorous critical attempt to distinguish between valid primary materials and other materials: photographs, for instance, which are known to be fabricated, or from different areas and different times, continue to be used to "prove" Japanese guilt in the winter of 1937-38 at Nanjing.
The majority of academic research on the Nanjing Incident is conducted in Japanese, English and Chinese. Of the three language groups, Japanese has produced the most sophisticated research, with the debate in English lagging decades behind. The most objective Chinese language materials are the collections of various primary sources, including the recollections of many of the Chinese military personnel in Nanjing.
(Part4) It has also become clear that What War Means is a propaganda book compiled and published by the Counterintelligence Division of the Nationalist Ministry of Informations International Propaganda Section. Timperley was paid by the Ministry of Information for editing the book. Thus, What War Means, perceived as proof of the Nanking Massacre, was not written from an impartial standpoint. On the contrary, it can be viewed only as war propaganda.
(Part3) Moreover, Rev. Bates, a famous Christian missionary who taught at the University of Nanking, was also an advisor to the Ministry of Information. Also Mrs. Fitch was a close friend of Mme. Chiang Kai-shek. As you know, the Chinese Nationalist governments Ministry of Information distorted at least 143 pictures in the Nanking Massacre Museum. In other words, they made many pictures which are shown Japanese atrocity.
(Part2)But Timperley was, in fact, an advisor to the Chinese Nationalist governments Ministry of Information. Timperley was paid by the Ministry of Information for editing the book. This fact based on the book which is called 曽虚白自伝, which means曽虚白 Diary P201. 曽虚白 was also one of the members of the Chinese Nationalist governments Ministry of Information.
(Part1)One of the foundation upon which the massacre myth is based on the book which is called "What War Means", edited by Harold Timperley. Rev. Miner Searle Bates and George Fitch submitted material for "What War Means". This book was written Japanese military committed many murders and raped many women.
(Pat3)Among the records in the aforementioned Documents of the Safety Zone are detailed complaints about misconduct attributed to Japanese military personnel. They include a total of 26 murders, only one of which was witnessed (to that account is appended a note describing the murder as a lawful execution). Also, recent research has proven that there is absolutely no basis for the claim that there was a massacre in that city. How does China claim that 300,000 Chinese were killed by Japanese?
(Part2)That figure remained unchanged, at 200,000, throughout the remainder of 1937. By the end of January, it had increased to 250,000. These statistics completely and utterly destroy the credibility of any accusation of a massacre that claimed 300,000 victims.
(Part1)The International Committee administered to the civilians remaining in Nanking, who were gathered in the Safety Zone. Records of the International Committees activities were published in 1939 as Documents of the Nanking Safety Zone by a British company in Shanghai, under the auspices of the Nationalist Governments Council of International Affairs. According to those records, the population of Nanking prior to its occupation by the Japanese was 200,000.
This oddballrach certainly has no life by repeatedly posing propaganda against china.. I a chinese albeit not from china, but my ancestors were from there. he kept on saying why japan went to war in a "good manner", which in fact is a aggressive one.. care to tell me where you from oddballrach?? so i can pray that time can turn back and japan attack your country and feel your ancestor suffer...
Definitely, KMT announced these crimes were committed by Japanese. After Japanese military occupied the Nanking city, the propaganda section in the KMT government broadcasted many rumors which included faked story Japanese like killed and raped many Chinese, at least 300 times by radio. This is the Chinese first propaganda mission in the war history.
Even now, Chinese government is teaching anti-Japanese education to kids.
(Part4) It has also become clear that What War Means is a propaganda book compiled and published by the Counterintelligence Division of the Nationalist Ministry of Informations International Propaganda Section. Timperley was paid by the Ministry of Information for editing the book. Thus, What War Means, perceived as proof of the Nanking Massacre, was not written from an impartial standpoint. On the contrary, it can be viewed only as war propaganda.
(Part3) Moreover, Rev. Bates, a famous Christian missionary who taught at the University of Nanking, was also an advisor to the Ministry of Information. Also Mrs. Fitch was a close friend of Mme. Chiang Kai-shek. As you know, the Chinese Nationalist governments Ministry of Information distorted at least 143 pictures in the Nanking Massacre Museum. In other words, they made many pictures which are shown Japanese atrocity.
Rev. Bates is a protestant well how can you trust protestant leaders from back then Japan might be helped by Rome who knows what happend the Nanking will not be proven untill is proven in that case Japan needs to refrom paralament whatever the case may be if that is true then I belive you because anything is possible.
Do not believe on those protestant leaders from back then they might be lying.
(Part2)But Timperley was, in fact, an advisor to the Chinese Nationalist governments Ministry of Information. Timperley was paid by the Ministry of Information for editing the book. This fact based on the book which is called 曽虚白自伝, which means曽虚白 Diary P201. 曽虚白 was also one of the members of the Chinese Nationalist governments Ministry of Information.
(Part1)One of the foundation upon which the massacre myth is based on the book which is called "What War Means", edited by Harold Timperley. Rev. Miner Searle Bates and George Fitch submitted material for "What War Means". This book was written Japanese military committed many murders and raped many women.
Japan has shown a remarkable coverup for its actions prior to and during WWII. Although it had claimed to want independence and freedom for all the nations of Asia, in reality it wanted to dominate and control all these countries. Korea is a classic example of what Japan had planned to do with the other countries of Asia. Koreans were made to throw off their culture and adopt a Japanese one. Japan's next move was the seizure of Manchuria which was condemned by the League of Nations.
(Part5)This is the letter from the International Committee to Japanese Commander Matsui.
「Dear Sirs. We express our appreciation to your artillerys praiseworthy act of having not attacked the safety zone and for becoming able to communicate with you (commander Matsui) about the future plan for supporting Chinese citizens in the same area. 」 (Stenography No.210).
(Part4)They testified they did not witness any murder and heard from someone. This trial proved nobody witnessed murders actually and they wrote reports on the basis of Hearsay. And yet, John Rabe sent a following letter of appreciation to the commander of Japanese army on behalf of the International Committee (Dec. 14).
(Part3)According to these 61 reports, they reported murder: 41, mayhem: 44, rape: 361, taking: 390, plunder and others: 170 for 2 months. However, all of these reports were hearsay, in other words, nobody of this committee witnessed them actually. The International Military Tribunal for the Far East (Tokyo Trial: 1946-1948) summoned 4 members of this committee included John G.Magee, George Ashmore Fitch, Miner Searle Bates and Robert O.Wilson.
(Part2)This committee wrote reports regarding the security situation of Nanking city 61 times from Dec.13, 1937 to Feb.9, 1938 and sent the same reports to Japanese Embassy, Embassy of the United States, British Embassy and Germany Embassy. All of these 61 reports are included in What War Means written by H.J.Timperley (The Manchester Guardianin) July of 1938.
(Part1)There was the International Committee for Nanking Safety Zone. This committee consisted of 22 Westerners and the chairman of this committee was John H.D.Rabe. The members of this committee contained John G.Magee, George Ashmore Fitch, Miner Searle Bates, Robert O.Wilson and Lewis S.C.Smythe.
A British journalist once asked a member of Japan's Ministry of Education why there was so little mention of Japan's role before and during WWII in Japan's history books. The ministry member replied that it was due to "we don't want Japan' students to think Japan was bad." Well, it was, but Japan seems to deny and sweep under the rug what it did and what its real motivations were. Japan tries to make it seem as if it was the victim, not the victimizer, in the many conflicts it initiated.
@oddballrach I agree with you and they keep on lying poor Tibetans I hope for a Japanese pope but this would be a brighter future for protestanisim and if a Japanese pope tells the truth about Nanking that is agree with the Japanese people I'll say that protestanisim will overcome Catholicsim, and that is sad why are they lying.
Reporters banned from Chinese village By BBC World News August 25, 2009
Police and local government officials in China have swamped a village at the centre of a lead poisoning case in Changqing, which left hundreds of children sick.
Villagers are forbidden from speaking to journalists, and reporters attempting to visit the area are being detained and questioned by the police.
Quentin Sommerville was one of those detained in Bao Ji, a township of Changqing.
(Part5) Exactly, the two of Chinese governments let Japan took the whole rap. Japan was made a scapegoat. People know there are many Chinese towns in the world. Do you know the Chinese mafia spreads out to all over the world? They are also lobbyists. They learned from the former war lobbying makes good consequences to the China.
(Part4) Thats why there were many cruel pictures such as dead bodies. When Chiang Kai-shek was in crisis, his wife begged the U.S.A helping China using a lot of fake pictures. They picked up many cruel pictures and put caption like Japan did! The pics were exactly imitation. Chinese killed their people! The Americans were fallen an easy prey to deception. The word POOR CHINA was advocated by Americans.
(Part3) R. J. Rummel said the Chinese gov. killed their people. For instance, The Tungchow Mutiny which was an assault on Japanese troops and Japanese and Koreans civilians by Chinese troops in Tōngzhōu, China on 29 July 1937. Moreover, in 1938, Yellow River Flood was a flood created by the KMT during the war. Before Chiang Kai-shek ordered, he commanded to his troops retreated from the area. However, he did not tell to the people, therefore, 500,000 people were died by the Chinese government.
(Part2)The former China government had two political groups. The Communist Party of China (CPC), which was led by Mao Zedong battled the Chinese Nationalist Party or Kuomintang (KMT), which was led by Chiang Kai-shek. The two group battle led to join the Japanese troops. China shelled into the Japanese camp 4 times on July 7, 1937. People called this Marco Polo Bridge Incident. This incident signified to open the war.
(Part1)In 1905, following the Japanese victory over Imperial Russia and the signing of the Treaty of Portsmouth, the South Manchuria branch (from Changchun to Lüshun) of the China Far East Railway was transferred to Japanese control. In other words, Japanese had stayed in China lawfully before the Sino-Japanese war started. Many Chinese came to study in this time. However, Nationalist-Communist Civil War began in 1927.
(Part10) Furthermore, Pius XI who was the pope is the Bishop of Rome and a leader of the worldwide Catholic Church said the Japans act was not an act of aggression. Japan tried to defend China. Japan fought for defending China from Communism, so all of Catholic Church must cooperate with Japan, in Oct, 1937.
@oddballrach and they will that is why I never broke out of the church and let me tell you something the Catholic Church is for the help of the Japanese people protestants are for the help of the Chinese people that is why protestansims will over power the Catholic Church too bad that my parents will soon be for the Chinese because they now belong to a protestant church except for my dad.
(Part9) At this time, John Van Antwerp MacMurray, who was an American envoy, said the Chinese tried to provoke a war, so Japans decision was an unavoidable choice. Moreover, Walter Lippmann was an influential American award-winning writer, journalist, and political commentator said Japan was extremely patient.
Also one of the U.K Army Generals said Japan had been received terrible prorogated action from the China.
(Part8) These Japanese acts was received an appropriate evaluation from the Chinese than cruel Chinese military. However, the Chinese propaganda led the Chinese wrongly. Even now the Chinese authorities insist anti-Japanese education to kids in school.
(Part7)When the KMT, which was Chinese military group, broke the bank of Yellow River, many Chinese people died by flood. The Japanese helped to rebuild the bank with Chinese people. The Japanese troop covered broken and floored statue of Sun Yat-sen, he was a Chinese revolutionary and political leader, by someone with a Flag of the Republic of China.
(Part6)R. J. Rummel said Chinese civilians and conscripts, as well as Japanese civilians, were maltreated by Chinese soldiers. Rummel claims that Chinese peasants "often had no less to fear from their own soldiers than they did from the Japanese." Also Chinese victims didnt have any money, so they couldnt receive any medical treatment. The Chinese government announced, You can get medical treatment for free in hospitals if you said Japanese injured you!
(Part5) At this period, the Communist Party of China (CPC), which was led by Mao Zedong battled the Chinese Nationalist Party or Kuomintang (KMT), which was led by Chiang Kai-shek. The two group battle led to join the Japanese troops. Of course, these three militaries made some conflicts in China each others.
(Part4)About 200 Korean formers upset the Chinese in China. At that time the Koreans were Japanese. The Japan and Korea annexed in 1910 lawfully, therefore, many Koreans had stayed in China as Japanese before the Sino-Japanese War happened. Their conflict escalated, so the Japanese police tried to control the unsnarl confusion. However, unfortunately, the conflict developed into a major incident.
(Part3) After finished the WW1, One of the Japanese captain whose name was Nakamura was caught by the Chinese military which was controlled by 張学良. Cap. Nakamura was killed by gun, and the body was thrown in to fire. This incident was happened on June 27, 1931. Moreover, on July 1, 1931, the Wanpaoshan Incident (万宝山事件) happened.
(Part2)In 1906, the Japanese victory over Imperial Russia and the signing of the Treaty of Portsmouth, the South Manchuria branch of the China Far East Railway was transferred to Japanese control. The Japanese stationed troops in South Manchuria as the same as another countries under the boxer protocol.
(Part1)Suddenly, did the Japanese military attack to the China? First of all, you should learn why the Japanese stayed in China. The Boxer Protocol was a protocol signed on Sep.7, 1901 between the China and the 8-Nation Alliance—Austria-Hungary, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, the U.K, and the U.S.A, Belgium, Spain and the Netherlands after China's defeat in the intervention to put down the Boxer Uprising at the hands of the 8-Power Expeditionary Force.
Wrong period of history mate. This was invasion and brutal occupation for the seizure of raw materials and new territory, regardless of the pretexts. The people in control of Japan at this time weren't much concerned with justification anyway.
Japanese are Bastard during war time. The general is an idiol suck. The emperor made a mistake and said sorry. Wat a joke.... The Japanese will remain forever in China heart that they re forever Bastard
Jpn wanted to rule Asia & Chn was was weak at the time. So it was Jpn's "now or never" golden opportunity. Ryukyu was never part of Jpn but was annexed a few centuries ago.
thx u saved my history mark!!!
HenriyLisbiss 1 year ago
(Part3)Among the records in the aforementioned Documents of the Safety Zone are detailed complaints about misconduct attributed to Japanese military personnel. They include a total of 26 murders, only one of which was witnessed (to that account is appended a note describing the “murder” as a lawful execution). Also, recent research has proven that there is absolutely no basis for the claim that there was a massacre in that city. How could Japanese soldiers kill 300,000 Chinese?
undertakerRach 1 year ago
(Part2)That figure remained unchanged, at 200,000, throughout the remainder of 1937. By the end of January, it had increased to 250,000. These statistics completely and utterly destroy the credibility of any accusation of a massacre that claimed 300,000 victims.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
(Part1)The International Committee administered to the civilians remaining in Nanking, who were gathered in the Safety Zone. Records of the International Committee’s activities were published in 1939 as Documents of the Nanking Safety Zone by a British company in Shanghai, under the auspices of the Nationalist Government’s Council of International Affairs. According to those records, the population of Nanking prior to its occupation by the Japanese was 200,000.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
undertakerRach, you're one dedicated troll. Nice job there buddy.
Breakerchase 1 year ago
@undertakerRach
Weren't the Japanese reporters that follow Japanese army into Nanjiang not paid?
There were a lot of press censorship by the Japanese Army administration before the reporters's wrtiings were allowed to published. There Japanese reporters dared not write the truth of massacre and also a lot of them was brainwashed to whitewash the Japanese actrocity and fabricated a wellcoming Chinese mass towards the Japanese.
Thak11 1 year ago
@Th China can't abuse Japan because there are no prove Japan guilty about the Nanking Massacre. The Chinese always show no evidence of any vigorous critical attempt to distinguish between valid primary materials and other materials: photographs, for instance, which are known to be fabricated, or from different areas and different times, continue to be used to prove Japanese guilt in the winter of 1937-38 at Nanjing. Though, many teachers have taught the massacre to kids in schools in China.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakenRach
I told you already a small portion of evidences lack credibility did not prove the whole genocide was a makeup. Only some evidences presented were faulty that is it. A judge would considered all evidences presented to balance his judgement on final verdict. That was it the war criminals stood at the Tokyo court were convicted to commit war crimes in Nanjiang Massacre.
Thak11 1 year ago
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@Thak11 (Part1/2)Where were 300,000 of dead bodies? Why did many Chinese people come back to Nanking after Japanese occupied the city? Why did Chinese government paid money to Harold Timperley for editing book What War Means which was written about so-called the Nanking Massacre?
undertakerRach 1 year ago
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@Thak11 (Part2/2)Why did not Mao announce about the massacre in the international mass media conference from 1937 to 1938? Why Chinese government could not prove the murder of 340,000 when the IMTFE was opened? Why Chinese government edited at least 147 pictures in the Nanking Massacre Museum?
undertakerRach 1 year ago
China has no right to accuse Japan of crimes such as the Nanking Massacre because the massacre was made up story using fabricated evidence. Obviously what China says is pure fiction! Demonstration of this fake story by the Chinese government is libel and slander. It is natural that Japanese raising an objection.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
what wrong have the Chinese done that lead to invasion by Japan....???
popeye5655 1 year ago
@popeye5655 (Part1)Suddenly, did the Japanese military attack to the China? No! The reason for staying in China was the Boxer Protocol which was signed on Sep.7, 1901 between the China and the 8-Nation Alliance. The Japanese stationed troops in South Manchuria for protect it as the same as another countries under the boxer protocol. In fact, many Chinese military had already fought each other. Mao who was a leader of CPC finally caught Chiang Kai-shek who was a leader of KMT.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@popeye5655 (Part2)They struggled jointly against Japan. This is called the Second United Front, which means the alliance between KMT and CCP during the Second Sino-Japanese War in 1937.
Therefore, China shelled into the Japanese camp 4 times in July 7, 1937 10:40 PM. The Marco Polo Bridge Incident often used as the marker for the start of the Second Sino-Japanese War.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
(Part2)On the other hand, the CCP is loudly denouncing the 'Nanking Massacre' which had been insisted on its happening more than sixty years ago, but not even clearly defined. I don't want to hear JAP or psychopaths, such a kind of words. Hey, Chinese Commentator in Youtube, tell me logical reasons.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
(Part1)More than 1,200,000 people were massacred since being unfairly annexed to Communist China in 1955. The very Communist China declared that the problem of Tibet is a problem relating to domestic affairs and refused the interference of the foreign nations.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
(Part2)However, these collections show no evidence of any vigorous critical attempt to distinguish between valid primary materials and other materials: photographs, for instance, which are known to be fabricated, or from different areas and different times, continue to be used to "prove" Japanese guilt in the winter of 1937-38 at Nanjing.
The Nanjing Incident Recent Research and Trends by David Askew
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach You go and fabricate the Atom Bomb mushroom for me buddy. It happened. End of story.
dennisbbb 1 year ago
(Part1)The majority of academic research on the Nanjing Incident is conducted in Japanese, English and Chinese. Of the three language groups, Japanese has produced the most sophisticated research, with the debate in English lagging decades behind. The most objective Chinese language materials are the collections of various primary sources, including the recollections of many of the Chinese military personnel in Nanjing.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach
There are many books regarding Nanjiang Massacre not only "What War Means", people reading these books still can analyse creditbility of the writers if they are intelligent enough. How about Iris Chang's "Rape of Nanjing" ? Japanese Rightists put on threatening phone calls, letters constantly turning herself suicidal and finally committed suicide.
Thak11 1 year ago
@Thak11 (Part1)One of the Photos displayed at the 'Memorial Hall of Victims in Nanjing Massacre'. It is also displayed in the book The Rape of Nanking. The book states "The Japanese rounded up thousands of women. Most of them were gang raped or forced into military prostitution. (Politburo of Military Committee, Taipei)" However, this photo has nothing to do with the gang-rape nor the military prostitution.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@Thak11 (Part2)This photo has appeared in the Asahi Graph, a weekly photo journal, published in Japan on November 10, 1937, about one month before Nanking battle. A set of four pictures have appeared in the journal with the explanation, titled as "Utopia amidst the Gun-power: The 'Rising Sun' Village South of the Yangtze." The very picture is captioned with "A group of women and children from the Rising Sun Village returning from the fields, guarded by our soldiers."
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@Thak11 (Part3) Iris Chang used a black pen, and she erased a womans white teeth in the picture. Do you know why? All of women smiled in the picture. After they finished work in the fields and they backed home with Japanese soldiers. They must have been pleasant chat with Japanese. Analyzing Photographic Evidence of the Nanking Massacre by historians and other recent scientific research reveal that there are no photographs attesting to a massacre in Nanking.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@Thak11 (Part4)You know, at least 143 pictures are distorted by Chinese government.
You said Iris Chang had tried to generalize this as the act against humanity before she died. I dont think so. There is no doubt that Iris Chang spread out wrong history which was the Nanking Massacre. This is one of the crimes malicious slanders.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach omfg.. can u stop fucking spamming all these vids? keep ur crappy lies to urself ok? ur a fucking nerd to be spamming like this all the time. jsut stfu
SHUTUPNOOB654 1 year ago
@SHUTUPNOOB654 (Part1)A Japanese whose name was Tokuyasu Fukuda, he was Japanese embassy staff, visited to the committee, he was surprised at the situation because John Magee and George Ashmore Fitch was writing reports, which were reported by some Chinese young guys.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@SHUTUPNOOB654 (Part2)The guys rushed into the committee office, and they told, “Japanese soldiers were raping women”, and “Japanese soldiers were seizing commodities from Chinese family”. John Magee and George Ashmore Fitch typed the stories without any inspection. Therefore, Mr. Fukuda protested to them many times. In fact, Mr. Fukuda went to check the Japanese crime scene which was reported a robbery by a Chinese guy, there was no people, no broken and no any noise.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach dude. i told u to fucking stop spamming. so stop. no1 will believe u, its life. pple believe different things. u cant force us to believe ur crap pro-japanese lies
SHUTUPNOOB654 1 year ago
@SHUTUPNOOB654 (Part4)In Nov. 1937, during the Battle of Nanking, the Nationalist Party established The International Propaganda Section (IPS). According to the top-secret document entitled “Outline of International Propaganda Operations,” the IPS held 300 press conferences in Hankou between Dec 1, 1937 and Oct 24, 1938.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@SHUTUPNOOB654
(Part5) About 35 foreign journalists and diplomats attended there. However, Chinese didn’t explain the fact which was so-called the Nanking Massacre even once during any of these 300 conferences was a statement or announcement.
Shame on you!
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach OH. MY. FUCK. GOD. NO1 WILL FUCKING BELIEVE U FOR THE LAST TIME.. STOP FUCKING SPAMMING ME AND THE OTHER PPLE. STOP FUCKING SPAMMING THESE VIDEOS AND GET A LIFE. WHAT U THINK IS TRUE, NOT EVERY1 ELSE WILL THINK. U CANT FORCE THEM TO THINK THAT WAY. U COULD BE WRONG. GOD... GET A LIFE!
SHUTUPNOOB654 1 year ago
@SHUTUPNOOB654 It's very difficult to read your comments.
But it's OK, your comments aren't worth much.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach thats just a retarded diss. i know u can read my comments. u know? no1 gives a shit about what u say. no1 will listen so stop spamming all these videos i see. (spam means u repeatedly comment on it) get a life man.. go get a girlfriend and get a life.
SHUTUPNOOB654 1 year ago
@GilaTomster One of the foundations of the massacre myth is based on the book which is called "What War Means", edited by Harold Timperley. But he was an advisor to the Chinese Nationalist governments Ministry of Information. The section was propaganda section which was established by KMT (Kuomintang, Chiang Kai-shek) in China during the War. Timperley was paid by the propaganda section for editing the book.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
In fact, it estimated that a far larger number of 65,000,000 people had been victimized in China, is still existing under the dictatorial political system, and still persecuting minorities and committing human right violations ceaselessly. Especially in Tibet, more than 1,200,000 people, corresponding to roughly 20% of the total population, were massacred since being unfairly annexed to Communist China in 1955.
Has China said sorry to Tibet?
undertakerRach 1 year ago
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China can't let Japan of the gang take the whole rap!
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakenRach
Yes, in a number of incidents we cannot guarantee that all Chinese are sacred but some bad guys as well. Anyway sidetrack to bad deeds done by some Chinese soldiers did not waive Japanese atrocity crime in Nanjiang.
Thak11 1 year ago
(Part2)Monition should be made here, however, that the Chinese themselves are not altogether exonerated of depredations, at least to some extent, before the entry of the Japanese. During the last few days some violations of people and property were undoubtedly committed by them. Chinese soldiers in their mad rush to discard their military uniforms and put on civilian clothes, in a number of incidents, killed civilians to obtain their clothing.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
(Part1)Around December 10, which date was Japanese surrounded the Nanking city, the city was completely fallen into a state of anarchy by Chinese soldiers. The Chinese soldiers in holy terror came to be out of control and began looting. James Espy, the vice American Council at Nanking, reported to the American Embassy at Hankow concerning the aspect of the city right before the fall of Nanking as follows :
undertakerRach 1 year ago
The terrible fact is, whatever Japan did to Manchuria, the Maoists did far far worse to the whole of China. Communism is the world's greatest catastrophy. I am no apologist for Japan. As allies Hitler & a decidely Fascist inspired gov't besides, we had to stop them. Soviet agents connived to turn a newly liberated China over to that homicidal maniac. What a disaster.
VictorLepanto 1 year ago
yep. & you should live in current timeline of the world. U.S. & Japan are allies. So as Germany now. complaining about past instead of building the futures does not make sense. think what can you do to make your neiborhood to be much better place.
good luck
maxinpains 1 year ago
200,000 were only the people kept inside the safety zone , the maximum amount of Chinese the foreigner could protect at the time. Outside that zone there were other Chinese not counted in.
Thak11 1 year ago
@Thak11 perhaps we should consider safty zone of the middle east instead of going back in time machine...if there is! lmao!
maxinpains 1 year ago
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The land where is called Manchuria was Korean and Tungusic territory for thousands of years and then Manchurian after the rise of Manchu identity. Manchus finally conquered China in 1644 AD and ruled Chinese for hundreds of years. Of course, Chinese were prohibited from entering the sacred land during the colonial period.
That's why Chinese first invaded Manchuria and so did Japanese after the fall of Manchurian empire.
KoriSenbay 1 year ago
it looks much better & civilized when japan was there...well, it's too old news. Now Japan & the United states of America Is Allies since WW2. Time has chnaged to be better.
maxinpains 1 year ago
@maxinpains Japanese organized Unit 731 in Manchurian when they were there and you also think it looks much better & civilized...??!!
KoriSenbay 1 year ago
(Part3)Among the records in the aforementioned Documents of the Safety Zone are detailed complaints about misconduct attributed to Japanese military personnel. They include a total of 26 murders, only one of which was witnessed (to that account is appended a note describing the murder as a lawful execution). Also, recent research has proven that there is absolutely no basis for the claim that there was a massacre in that city. How does China claim that 300,000 Chinese were killed by Japanese?
undertakerRach 1 year ago
(Part2)That figure remained unchanged, at 200,000, throughout the remainder of 1937. By the end of January, it had increased to 250,000. These statistics completely and utterly destroy the credibility of any accusation of a massacre that claimed 300,000 victims.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
(Part1)The International Committee administered to the civilians remaining in Nanking, who were gathered in the Safety Zone. Records of the International Committees activities were published in 1939 as Documents of the Nanking Safety Zone by a British company in Shanghai, under the auspices of the Nationalist Governments Council of International Affairs. According to those records, the population of Nanking prior to its occupation by the Japanese was 200,000.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach
If all those information on taking those photos are available down to the minute details then it must be fabrications or arrangement by the ruling body concerned. It was war time unrest fightings people desperately saving their own lives.
Thak11 1 year ago
@undertakerRach
You must have neglected there was a killing competition between two Japanese army soldiers during the massacre in Nanking for the first 1000 killings by sword (Chinese beheaded). Photographs of the winner soldiers holding Japanese sword and heads of the beheaded were shown in the Japanese newspaper back home in Japan.
Thak11 1 year ago
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(Part2)The January 1939 issue of Lowdown, an American magazine, commented about these photos that this was in fact a communist Chinese officer torturing a Chinese prisoner. Chinese propaganda section manufactured many fake photos. At least 143 pictures in the Nanking Massacre Museum were edited by Chinese government. Their propaganda is still ongoing.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
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(Part1)In the fall of 1937, the Associated Press (AP) distributed one of the photos as a Japanese soldier using a Chinese national as a guinea pig for bayonet practice. Iris Chang's The Rape of Nanking carries the same kinds of photos of Japanese atrocities. However, the soldier wears a turned-down-collared uniform, which no Japanese soldier wore at that time, so the man is not a Japanese soldier.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
Somebody here is whitewashing and cleansing Japanese genocide deeds in Nanjiang. Pity you.
Thak11 1 year ago
How can Japanese admit the wrong fact such as the Nanking Massacre?
Analyzing Photographic Evidence of the Nanking Massacre by historians and other recent scientific research reveal that there are no photographs attesting to a massacre in Nanking. You know, at least 143 pictures are distorted by Chinese government.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach
There were hundreds and thousands of photos more to be genuine against a few hundred odds if what you say is true.
Thak11 1 year ago
Some of videos of war time are fabricated using extra,in order to highten US army's fighting motivation, making Japan's image as EVIL.
hawkwind2002 1 year ago
Japan was not just evil invader,but some people in some countries are very thankful of Japanese army's adorable acts.
hard Anti-Japan countries are only Korea and China.People should know right history.
Do not confuse Japan with fuckin evil heartless China.
hawkwind2002 1 year ago
(Part3) At last the Chinese beheaded the ladies. In another place, the Chinese cut a pregnant womans abdomen and took out her baby. In the Chinese history, they committed a lot of cruel crimes which were similar satiation as above. They made imaginary stories; Japanese raped and killed many Chinese, based on their experiences. These stories are very similar. The Tungchow Mutiny happened in China on July 1937, and Chinese called the Nanking massacre happened in Dec 1937.
oddballrach 1 year ago
(Part2)The Tungchow Mutiny happened in Tōngzhōu, China on 29 July 1937. Japanese troops and civilians were surprised attacked by Chinese troops. According to the testimonies in The International Military Tribunal for the Far East, one of the witnesses said a Japanese woman master and her co-workers, who had worked a hotel in Tungchow, China, were raped by the Chinese, and they were tied up their wrists together.
oddballrach 1 year ago
(Part1)The 3000 of armed Chinese attacked 200 of the Uyghur people while Uyghurs were walking back to their dormitory after their night work on June, 25 2009 PM 11:30.
Only 10 of the Uyghurs survived. The Uyghur ladies were raped by the Chinese and two ladies heads were tied to a tree by the ladies hair.
oddballrach 1 year ago
@oddballrach
What are you talking about ? Where is your souce to prove what you have said ?
Thak11 1 year ago
@Thak11 (Part1)The majority of academic research on the Nanjing Incident is conducted in Japanese, English and Chinese. Of the three language groups, Japanese has produced the most sophisticated research, with the debate in English lagging decades behind. The most objective Chinese language materials are the collections of various primary sources, including the recollections of many of the Chinese military personnel in Nanjing.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@Thak11 (Part2)However, these collections show no evidence of any vigorous critical attempt to distinguish between valid primary materials and other materials: photographs, for instance, which are known to be fabricated, or from different areas and different times, continue to be used to "prove" Japanese guilt in the winter of 1937-38 at Nanjing.
The Nanjing Incident Recent Research and Trends by David Askew
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach
Say that to all the relatives of the Chinsese people killed in Nanjiang and count how many angry responses from them for a try. I can assure you there would be numerous people to evidence Japanese massacre there. Lost of sons, parents, brothers and sisters kin to these people are no jokes.
Thak11 1 year ago
@Thak11 After the battle, many Nanking citizens, who had abhorred bad deeds done by the Chinese military in the city, welcomed the Japanese military. One of the photos shows Japanese soldiers and the Nanking citizens wearing armbands of the flag of Japan and giving cheers, on the day of the Japanese militarys ceremonial entry into Nanking ("Sino-Japanese War Photograph News #15," the Mainichi Shinbun newspaper, published on Jan. 11, 1938)
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach
That was Japanese propaganda at the time, nothing special.
Thak11 1 year ago
@Thak11Some of the photos and videos, which obviously show restoration of order in the Safety Zone immediately after the seizure of Nanking, and also the documentary films which show the Chinese citizens rushing to get ID cards. These photos and films are made by the trustworthy sources, and coincided with the witness of over 100 Japanese correspondents dispatched to Nanking then.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach
So what were the reliable trustworthy sources ? The 100 witnesses were all Japanese of one side the aggressor.
Thak11 1 year ago
@Thak11 On the contrary, some of the pictures, which were claimed to have been taken at the time of the massacre, have never indicated the date, the places, and the names of photographers. Also, some of them are showing the entirely different things, and others are forged ones.
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@undertakerRach
If those pictures were already there twenty years ago and documented then, the pictures were genuine as that time no softwares like the photoshop etc. were available and the photos were of the analog type hard to alter.
The pictures were not intended for court use at the time of taking by ordinary people so the date, the places and the names of photographers may not be available especially it was taken during that unrest war time.
Thak11 1 year ago
After the fall of Manchurian empire, Chinese invaded Manchuria and so did Japanese.
KoriSenbay 1 year ago
@KoriSenbay
It was the Russians who came and took Manchuko first , the Japanese army there surrendered to the Russians. The Russian took all the Jajanese weaponry and transferred it to the CCP army then withdrew from Manchuria. The CCP later fought a civil war from there with the KMT of ROC and took whole China.
Your fact here Chinese invaded Manchuria is wrong.
Thak11 1 year ago
@Thak11 Manchuria was hardly related to Chinese. Manchuria was Manchus territory after the rise of Manchu identity. Manchus finally conquered China in 1644 AD and ruled Chinese for hundreds of years. Of course, Chinese were prohibited from entering the sacred land during the colonial period.
That's why I said that Chinese invaded Manchuria and so did Japanese after the fall of Manchurian empire.
KoriSenbay 1 year ago
If you stay on the subject of whether the Japanese committed atrocities, you will find that YES, without any doubt, they did. You had rather been captured by Germans than by Japanese, and by self admitted interviews of participating soldiers and eye-witness accounts, the soldiers had beheading contests, and raped women--murdering them and their babies without mercy. Why do you think the US dropped the H-bombs? The Japanese and Germans would have divided the world. We had to defeat the Axis.
renaissancemang1 1 year ago
(Part2)However, these collections show no evidence of any vigorous critical attempt to distinguish between valid primary materials and other materials: photographs, for instance, which are known to be fabricated, or from different areas and different times, continue to be used to "prove" Japanese guilt in the winter of 1937-38 at Nanjing.
oddballrach 1 year ago
(Part1)The Nanjing Incident
Recent Research and Trends by David Askew
The majority of academic research on the Nanjing Incident is conducted in Japanese, English and Chinese. Of the three language groups, Japanese has produced the most sophisticated research, with the debate in English lagging decades behind. The most objective Chinese language materials are the collections of various primary sources, including the recollections of many of the Chinese military personnel in Nanjing.
oddballrach 1 year ago
(Part4) It has also become clear that What War Means is a propaganda book compiled and published by the Counterintelligence Division of the Nationalist Ministry of Informations International Propaganda Section. Timperley was paid by the Ministry of Information for editing the book. Thus, What War Means, perceived as proof of the Nanking Massacre, was not written from an impartial standpoint. On the contrary, it can be viewed only as war propaganda.
oddballrach 1 year ago
(Part3) Moreover, Rev. Bates, a famous Christian missionary who taught at the University of Nanking, was also an advisor to the Ministry of Information. Also Mrs. Fitch was a close friend of Mme. Chiang Kai-shek. As you know, the Chinese Nationalist governments Ministry of Information distorted at least 143 pictures in the Nanking Massacre Museum. In other words, they made many pictures which are shown Japanese atrocity.
oddballrach 1 year ago
(Part2)But Timperley was, in fact, an advisor to the Chinese Nationalist governments Ministry of Information. Timperley was paid by the Ministry of Information for editing the book. This fact based on the book which is called 曽虚白自伝, which means曽虚白 Diary P201. 曽虚白 was also one of the members of the Chinese Nationalist governments Ministry of Information.
oddballrach 1 year ago
(Part1)One of the foundation upon which the massacre myth is based on the book which is called "What War Means", edited by Harold Timperley. Rev. Miner Searle Bates and George Fitch submitted material for "What War Means". This book was written Japanese military committed many murders and raped many women.
oddballrach 1 year ago
(Pat3)Among the records in the aforementioned Documents of the Safety Zone are detailed complaints about misconduct attributed to Japanese military personnel. They include a total of 26 murders, only one of which was witnessed (to that account is appended a note describing the murder as a lawful execution). Also, recent research has proven that there is absolutely no basis for the claim that there was a massacre in that city. How does China claim that 300,000 Chinese were killed by Japanese?
oddballrach 1 year ago
(Part2)That figure remained unchanged, at 200,000, throughout the remainder of 1937. By the end of January, it had increased to 250,000. These statistics completely and utterly destroy the credibility of any accusation of a massacre that claimed 300,000 victims.
oddballrach 1 year ago
(Part1)The International Committee administered to the civilians remaining in Nanking, who were gathered in the Safety Zone. Records of the International Committees activities were published in 1939 as Documents of the Nanking Safety Zone by a British company in Shanghai, under the auspices of the Nationalist Governments Council of International Affairs. According to those records, the population of Nanking prior to its occupation by the Japanese was 200,000.
oddballrach 1 year ago
This oddballrach certainly has no life by repeatedly posing propaganda against china.. I a chinese albeit not from china, but my ancestors were from there. he kept on saying why japan went to war in a "good manner", which in fact is a aggressive one.. care to tell me where you from oddballrach?? so i can pray that time can turn back and japan attack your country and feel your ancestor suffer...
zhenyu33 1 year ago
Definitely, KMT announced these crimes were committed by Japanese. After Japanese military occupied the Nanking city, the propaganda section in the KMT government broadcasted many rumors which included faked story Japanese like killed and raped many Chinese, at least 300 times by radio. This is the Chinese first propaganda mission in the war history.
Even now, Chinese government is teaching anti-Japanese education to kids.
oddballrach 1 year ago
Well, at least now they're a civilized, forth world country who is willing to trade, share and grow rather than ravage, loot and rape.
amig90 1 year ago
I respect the Japanese trying to wipe out them chinks.
lilbeezy4utoo 1 year ago
(Part4) It has also become clear that What War Means is a propaganda book compiled and published by the Counterintelligence Division of the Nationalist Ministry of Informations International Propaganda Section. Timperley was paid by the Ministry of Information for editing the book. Thus, What War Means, perceived as proof of the Nanking Massacre, was not written from an impartial standpoint. On the contrary, it can be viewed only as war propaganda.
oddballrach 1 year ago
(Part3) Moreover, Rev. Bates, a famous Christian missionary who taught at the University of Nanking, was also an advisor to the Ministry of Information. Also Mrs. Fitch was a close friend of Mme. Chiang Kai-shek. As you know, the Chinese Nationalist governments Ministry of Information distorted at least 143 pictures in the Nanking Massacre Museum. In other words, they made many pictures which are shown Japanese atrocity.
oddballrach 1 year ago
Rev. Bates is a protestant well how can you trust protestant leaders from back then Japan might be helped by Rome who knows what happend the Nanking will not be proven untill is proven in that case Japan needs to refrom paralament whatever the case may be if that is true then I belive you because anything is possible.
Do not believe on those protestant leaders from back then they might be lying.
Embargoman 1 year ago
(Part2)But Timperley was, in fact, an advisor to the Chinese Nationalist governments Ministry of Information. Timperley was paid by the Ministry of Information for editing the book. This fact based on the book which is called 曽虚白自伝, which means曽虚白 Diary P201. 曽虚白 was also one of the members of the Chinese Nationalist governments Ministry of Information.
oddballrach 1 year ago
(Part1)One of the foundation upon which the massacre myth is based on the book which is called "What War Means", edited by Harold Timperley. Rev. Miner Searle Bates and George Fitch submitted material for "What War Means". This book was written Japanese military committed many murders and raped many women.
oddballrach 1 year ago
Japan has shown a remarkable coverup for its actions prior to and during WWII. Although it had claimed to want independence and freedom for all the nations of Asia, in reality it wanted to dominate and control all these countries. Korea is a classic example of what Japan had planned to do with the other countries of Asia. Koreans were made to throw off their culture and adopt a Japanese one. Japan's next move was the seizure of Manchuria which was condemned by the League of Nations.
TheMidlakes 1 year ago
(Part5)This is the letter from the International Committee to Japanese Commander Matsui.
「Dear Sirs. We express our appreciation to your artillerys praiseworthy act of having not attacked the safety zone and for becoming able to communicate with you (commander Matsui) about the future plan for supporting Chinese citizens in the same area. 」 (Stenography No.210).
oddballrach 1 year ago
(Part4)They testified they did not witness any murder and heard from someone. This trial proved nobody witnessed murders actually and they wrote reports on the basis of Hearsay. And yet, John Rabe sent a following letter of appreciation to the commander of Japanese army on behalf of the International Committee (Dec. 14).
oddballrach 1 year ago
(Part3)According to these 61 reports, they reported murder: 41, mayhem: 44, rape: 361, taking: 390, plunder and others: 170 for 2 months. However, all of these reports were hearsay, in other words, nobody of this committee witnessed them actually. The International Military Tribunal for the Far East (Tokyo Trial: 1946-1948) summoned 4 members of this committee included John G.Magee, George Ashmore Fitch, Miner Searle Bates and Robert O.Wilson.
oddballrach 1 year ago
(Part2)This committee wrote reports regarding the security situation of Nanking city 61 times from Dec.13, 1937 to Feb.9, 1938 and sent the same reports to Japanese Embassy, Embassy of the United States, British Embassy and Germany Embassy. All of these 61 reports are included in What War Means written by H.J.Timperley (The Manchester Guardianin) July of 1938.
oddballrach 1 year ago
NOBODY WITNESSED MURDERS ACTUALLY
January 17, 2007
(Part1)There was the International Committee for Nanking Safety Zone. This committee consisted of 22 Westerners and the chairman of this committee was John H.D.Rabe. The members of this committee contained John G.Magee, George Ashmore Fitch, Miner Searle Bates, Robert O.Wilson and Lewis S.C.Smythe.
oddballrach 1 year ago
A British journalist once asked a member of Japan's Ministry of Education why there was so little mention of Japan's role before and during WWII in Japan's history books. The ministry member replied that it was due to "we don't want Japan' students to think Japan was bad." Well, it was, but Japan seems to deny and sweep under the rug what it did and what its real motivations were. Japan tries to make it seem as if it was the victim, not the victimizer, in the many conflicts it initiated.
TheMidlakes 1 year ago
Why does the Chinese government suppress a fact?
oddballrach 2 years ago
They might be lying!
Embargoman 1 year ago
(Part0)Chinese government has told so many lies. (continue to Part1)
oddballrach 1 year ago
@oddballrach I agree with you and they keep on lying poor Tibetans I hope for a Japanese pope but this would be a brighter future for protestanisim and if a Japanese pope tells the truth about Nanking that is agree with the Japanese people I'll say that protestanisim will overcome Catholicsim, and that is sad why are they lying.
Embargoman 1 year ago
Reporters banned from Chinese village By BBC World News August 25, 2009
Police and local government officials in China have swamped a village at the centre of a lead poisoning case in Changqing, which left hundreds of children sick.
Villagers are forbidden from speaking to journalists, and reporters attempting to visit the area are being detained and questioned by the police.
Quentin Sommerville was one of those detained in Bao Ji, a township of Changqing.
oddballrach 2 years ago
hei oddballrach i see you're still wasting your time posting your propaganda.
why do u even bother when its obvious nobody is gonna believe it?
gengar77 2 years ago
(Part5) Exactly, the two of Chinese governments let Japan took the whole rap. Japan was made a scapegoat. People know there are many Chinese towns in the world. Do you know the Chinese mafia spreads out to all over the world? They are also lobbyists. They learned from the former war lobbying makes good consequences to the China.
oddballrach 2 years ago
(Part4) Thats why there were many cruel pictures such as dead bodies. When Chiang Kai-shek was in crisis, his wife begged the U.S.A helping China using a lot of fake pictures. They picked up many cruel pictures and put caption like Japan did! The pics were exactly imitation. Chinese killed their people! The Americans were fallen an easy prey to deception. The word POOR CHINA was advocated by Americans.
oddballrach 2 years ago
(Part3) R. J. Rummel said the Chinese gov. killed their people. For instance, The Tungchow Mutiny which was an assault on Japanese troops and Japanese and Koreans civilians by Chinese troops in Tōngzhōu, China on 29 July 1937. Moreover, in 1938, Yellow River Flood was a flood created by the KMT during the war. Before Chiang Kai-shek ordered, he commanded to his troops retreated from the area. However, he did not tell to the people, therefore, 500,000 people were died by the Chinese government.
oddballrach 2 years ago
(Part2)The former China government had two political groups. The Communist Party of China (CPC), which was led by Mao Zedong battled the Chinese Nationalist Party or Kuomintang (KMT), which was led by Chiang Kai-shek. The two group battle led to join the Japanese troops. China shelled into the Japanese camp 4 times on July 7, 1937. People called this Marco Polo Bridge Incident. This incident signified to open the war.
oddballrach 2 years ago
(Part1)In 1905, following the Japanese victory over Imperial Russia and the signing of the Treaty of Portsmouth, the South Manchuria branch (from Changchun to Lüshun) of the China Far East Railway was transferred to Japanese control. In other words, Japanese had stayed in China lawfully before the Sino-Japanese war started. Many Chinese came to study in this time. However, Nationalist-Communist Civil War began in 1927.
oddballrach 2 years ago
You must have absolutely no life oddballrach.
ChilledRedux 2 years ago
@ChilledRedux
Why?
oddballrach 2 years ago
(Part10) Furthermore, Pius XI who was the pope is the Bishop of Rome and a leader of the worldwide Catholic Church said the Japans act was not an act of aggression. Japan tried to defend China. Japan fought for defending China from Communism, so all of Catholic Church must cooperate with Japan, in Oct, 1937.
oddballrach 2 years ago
@oddballrach and they will that is why I never broke out of the church and let me tell you something the Catholic Church is for the help of the Japanese people protestants are for the help of the Chinese people that is why protestansims will over power the Catholic Church too bad that my parents will soon be for the Chinese because they now belong to a protestant church except for my dad.
Embargoman 1 year ago
(Part9) At this time, John Van Antwerp MacMurray, who was an American envoy, said the Chinese tried to provoke a war, so Japans decision was an unavoidable choice. Moreover, Walter Lippmann was an influential American award-winning writer, journalist, and political commentator said Japan was extremely patient.
Also one of the U.K Army Generals said Japan had been received terrible prorogated action from the China.
oddballrach 2 years ago
(Part8) These Japanese acts was received an appropriate evaluation from the Chinese than cruel Chinese military. However, the Chinese propaganda led the Chinese wrongly. Even now the Chinese authorities insist anti-Japanese education to kids in school.
oddballrach 2 years ago
(Part7)When the KMT, which was Chinese military group, broke the bank of Yellow River, many Chinese people died by flood. The Japanese helped to rebuild the bank with Chinese people. The Japanese troop covered broken and floored statue of Sun Yat-sen, he was a Chinese revolutionary and political leader, by someone with a Flag of the Republic of China.
oddballrach 2 years ago
(Part6)R. J. Rummel said Chinese civilians and conscripts, as well as Japanese civilians, were maltreated by Chinese soldiers. Rummel claims that Chinese peasants "often had no less to fear from their own soldiers than they did from the Japanese." Also Chinese victims didnt have any money, so they couldnt receive any medical treatment. The Chinese government announced, You can get medical treatment for free in hospitals if you said Japanese injured you!
oddballrach 2 years ago
(Part5) At this period, the Communist Party of China (CPC), which was led by Mao Zedong battled the Chinese Nationalist Party or Kuomintang (KMT), which was led by Chiang Kai-shek. The two group battle led to join the Japanese troops. Of course, these three militaries made some conflicts in China each others.
oddballrach 2 years ago
(Part4)About 200 Korean formers upset the Chinese in China. At that time the Koreans were Japanese. The Japan and Korea annexed in 1910 lawfully, therefore, many Koreans had stayed in China as Japanese before the Sino-Japanese War happened. Their conflict escalated, so the Japanese police tried to control the unsnarl confusion. However, unfortunately, the conflict developed into a major incident.
oddballrach 2 years ago
(Part3) After finished the WW1, One of the Japanese captain whose name was Nakamura was caught by the Chinese military which was controlled by 張学良. Cap. Nakamura was killed by gun, and the body was thrown in to fire. This incident was happened on June 27, 1931. Moreover, on July 1, 1931, the Wanpaoshan Incident (万宝山事件) happened.
oddballrach 2 years ago
(Part2)In 1906, the Japanese victory over Imperial Russia and the signing of the Treaty of Portsmouth, the South Manchuria branch of the China Far East Railway was transferred to Japanese control. The Japanese stationed troops in South Manchuria as the same as another countries under the boxer protocol.
oddballrach 2 years ago
(Part1)Suddenly, did the Japanese military attack to the China? First of all, you should learn why the Japanese stayed in China. The Boxer Protocol was a protocol signed on Sep.7, 1901 between the China and the 8-Nation Alliance—Austria-Hungary, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, the U.K, and the U.S.A, Belgium, Spain and the Netherlands after China's defeat in the intervention to put down the Boxer Uprising at the hands of the 8-Power Expeditionary Force.
oddballrach 2 years ago
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long l;ive Machuria.
I know how manchu people suffered and are still suffering on CUMMunist state China.
We are with you!
Great from Albania
maybe one day I will visit MANCHUKUO
halobed2 2 years ago
Wrong period of history mate. This was invasion and brutal occupation for the seizure of raw materials and new territory, regardless of the pretexts. The people in control of Japan at this time weren't much concerned with justification anyway.
G0IFI 2 years ago
proud being american after the nuke japs become a dogs of american lol m i rigth
thinkinrich 2 years ago
Japanese are Bastard during war time. The general is an idiol suck. The emperor made a mistake and said sorry. Wat a joke.... The Japanese will remain forever in China heart that they re forever Bastard
macusjfox 2 years ago
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jksun12 2 years ago
hahahah
thechinkslayer 2 years ago
Still, the photograph and the video are used without the meaning's savvying.
Are they seasheperd?
CHNPower 2 years ago
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natsMmm 2 years ago
Jpn wanted to rule Asia & Chn was was weak at the time. So it was Jpn's "now or never" golden opportunity. Ryukyu was never part of Jpn but was annexed a few centuries ago.
QuorcusRubra 2 years ago
that makes no sence no way your food is like the filipinos food because filipino food is the same thing as puerto rican food :O
skateintheblack23 2 years ago
对! 韩国高丽棒子不比日本鬼子好!
OsamaBinWeinstein 3 years ago
Korean history:slaves of Hans,Yuans,Ming chinese,Manchus,Japanese,Koreans were slaves of Japan and China throughout the history!!!!
impearless 3 years ago 2