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  • Well at the moment there are a lot of bad degrees, I know someone who has a degree in media and works in HMV after getting it... So that's the waste

  • @ChazWaring2308 heh! Media studies is one that I had in mind when I spoke of mickey mouse degrees.

    Maybe your mate wants to work in HMV, nothing wrong with that. What would be wrong is that they are working there becaue there are so many people with degrees now that they can't get a job that will put their degree to good use due to over subscription. And yes, what a waste, not just of that persons time and money, but everything else associated with it. But hey, at least the uni got their money!

  • Haha, i don't get EMA and i definitely can't afford uni....i would never call myself filthy rich....unless i was.

  • Cheers for calling all the people that don't get EMA "Filthy Rich Familys" ...

  • @MissKittyMoonlight Oh, grow up. He said it will effect students that want to go to university and don't come from filthy rich families. In other words, he's right. If you're not rich and you can't get a student loan, HOW DO YOU GO TO UNIVERSITY? Genius, listen then comment.

    Go Connor, good job. :)

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  • Wahey, you're on the news! :P

  • Dam... they didnt film me going past in the car!

  • It would be good if the number of students were cut. Far too many 'universities' are offering mickey mouse degrees that essentially have devalued what a degree used to be about.

    Cut the number of places, revert old polytechnics and colleges of further education back to exactly that.

    Then the government could concentrae on offering and fully funding PROPER degrees to those who are capable of passing the courses.

    Univerities should be run a a provider of education, and not as a business.

  • @Sveinbeard what do you consider to be mickey mouse degrees?

  • @Joelhimself maybe not so much the degrees them selves. The main issue I have is the educational establishments that no wcall themselves universities and offer degrees.

    For example, Northbrook University! UNIVERSITY? Don't make me laugh!! the very fact tha a College of FE can now call itself a uni and offer courses is a joke.

    What value do you think employers place on a degree from such a place? A first from there is equivalent to what from say York, or even Bournemouth.

  • @Sveinbeard I'm on second year journalism fda course, which is the degree course at Northbrook, although many subjects acquire a top a year at a real university as you'd call it. I think the courses there are great in some areas, with amazingly knowledgable tutors who have worked and experienced a lot in their own fields of study for years.

  • @Joelhimself I'm sure the tutors are knowledgable and capable. it is the current system that is letting the kids down.

  • @Joelhimself It isn't the kids fault, the blam elies entirely with the educational system put in place over recent years.

    Just look at A level results. Every year we see an increase in the number of passes. Is this because kids are getting cleverer each year?..nope..human evolution doesn't work that fast

    Are teaching methods getting better? No! Kids today are simply taught how to pass the exam and less about the subject itself.

    Are A levels getting easier? You decide.

  • @Sveinbeard Yeah but we are taught that way because that's what the exams demand. The exams aren't set out to text your knowledge at all!

  • @ChazWaring2308 yep agree with that. I have said, it isn't the kids fault. But it is the kids that suffer because of it.

    The reason government cannot afford to give grants as they used too... too many students with expectations of a degree = no funding available. That is what you should be protesting about. Less university places available would benefit the country as a whole and those that did go would be sensibly funded.

    Degrees have become devalued.

  • @ChazWaring2308 So, if you can see that that is happening, should you be doing something about it, or are you happy with a sub standard education?

  • The govt want 50% of school kids to go to university. What do you think the result of this will be?...we are already seeing the down side of this - students - including yourself have been demonstrating against it today.

    I refer you to my original post as a suggestion of an answer to the issue.

    Net result is a large number of graduates with huge debts who still can't get a job and won't work in a low paid job because they have a degree. Most of them obtained from a college and not a uni.

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