80 of the R46s (more, it the North Shore line ir reactivated) are slated to replace the R44s on the Staten Island Railway. The R44s have a modified structure and stainless steel beltlines (unlike the subway versions, which were carbon steel). They were modified for the SIR when they originally arrived to FRA standards and run under a special waiver, as the SIR is a class-B commuter railroad. The R46 structure was already designed for the LIRR and the aborted Queens Super Express Bypass.
The cost of realigning the sides of the A units to line the doors up with each other (necessary to accomodate the necessary full-length cabs) was cost prohibitive. However, the 75-foot all-stainless steel R46s are being considered for such a re-fit, with the same ceiling, lighting, speakers and HVAC units as the R160, fluting added to the exterior roof structure, similar Kawasaki trucks (modified to handle the weight of the heavier cars), and Bombardier propulsion in current A-B-B-A form.
The R40s and R42s (a few of the latter still running on the J line) were becoming structurally unsound, thanks to St. Louis Car's shotwelding of stainless steel parts to carbon steel and the extreme corrosion at the points where they were joined; that's what killed the R44 cars. Kawasaki had proposed useing the all-stainless steel and aluminum R32 shells to remanufacture them as new cars with the R160 features in A-B-B-B-A unit configuration like the R160s.
Beautiful! Just beautiful! Coral will thrive on something like this, and this will make for a fascinating discovery for any divers 20-30 years into the future!
it s to stimulate sea life...not sure where there dumpin them out there but they use to do it with old rail cars out here in the west .youd be suprised how much shit is dumped in the ocean.try lookin up the trash island you'll fuckin loose it!...CHILL
what idiots. instead of spending money and harming the enviroment by tossing them into the ocean they could have sold them as scrap metal and made some money. or even better, convert them into places where people can live and let homeless people live in them.
Hey...I thought they had their breifcases up their ass about being "environmentally friendly" and "green". You can "go green" by removing the 'Bestos, repairing these old cars, and putting them back in service!
It pollutes the environment more to keep re-producing rail cars and road cars instead of fixing up and repairing the old ones!
... recycle the fish popu... What fish population? NYC's been dumping hellzknows what in that ocean area for since the time some Brit sailor took a dump off'n th' poop deck of the HMS Killthenatives... hell throw some tires in there too- so after all the steel and aluminum
corrode away the mutant 'sealife' will have something to live in...
@FrEsHtOdEaTh1990 They ARE being recycled -- they're being used as artificial reefs for sea life to thrive on them. So not only are you recycling the cars, you're recycling the fish population.
This makes no fucking sense. Why don't they make one model of a train and stick with it. These R40's were perfectly good running trains, but NOO, they needa throw it in the damn ocean.
@timo518 Even better, why don't they make model reefs instead of going through making something artificial, that's going to be used to look real but be artificial :L
@timo518 Technology changes, upgrades are needed, companies stop making replacement parts. Example. Long Island Railroad designs their own engines, DE/DM-30, the company that made them went out of business, when they need parts, well that's too bad time for a new fleet.
@timo518 Train cars has a life span of about 30 years. They will eventually have be replaced with newer up-to-date models as technilogy gets better. More expensive to overhaul/maintenance of older cars.
@timo518 that's for fish and they are recycling anyway and stop talking about damn train numbers im a railfan and yet i don't care about the train number.
@tryithere The V sets on the Cityrail Network in Sydney Australia were released in 1968 and there still on the rails (last one put on to tracks in 1989) so some of which are 44 odd years old and there a good reliable train there soon to be retired from 2020, there an awesome train and despite there age they are quieter and more comfertable then the Newer trains on the cityrail fleet but I prefer the Tangara's (Tangara is an aboriginal word meaing "TO GO" known as the T and G sets)
@music1chanel Natural reefs will grow on any hard substance, so the government and a group of scientists started to put unused Ships, trains, tanks, whatever else would be fitting for the job in order to increase the biomass in the ocean. It is actually pretty genius.
at least those trains go down and have a usefull end as a playground for fish n stuff...our o,uld subway trains go to the blastfurnaces-recacling u know
its gonna be until 2011 until they finally see what to do about reefing. They better stop it and keep everything. I'm sick and tired of the MTA retiring and reefing all those "good memory" trains.
Good way to clean these trains...
zapper067 1 week ago
wow, imagine being inside that subway - better hold on to the pole.....!! lol
solarisgalrocks 3 months ago
80 of the R46s (more, it the North Shore line ir reactivated) are slated to replace the R44s on the Staten Island Railway. The R44s have a modified structure and stainless steel beltlines (unlike the subway versions, which were carbon steel). They were modified for the SIR when they originally arrived to FRA standards and run under a special waiver, as the SIR is a class-B commuter railroad. The R46 structure was already designed for the LIRR and the aborted Queens Super Express Bypass.
Noveltooner 3 months ago
The cost of realigning the sides of the A units to line the doors up with each other (necessary to accomodate the necessary full-length cabs) was cost prohibitive. However, the 75-foot all-stainless steel R46s are being considered for such a re-fit, with the same ceiling, lighting, speakers and HVAC units as the R160, fluting added to the exterior roof structure, similar Kawasaki trucks (modified to handle the weight of the heavier cars), and Bombardier propulsion in current A-B-B-A form.
Noveltooner 3 months ago
The R40s and R42s (a few of the latter still running on the J line) were becoming structurally unsound, thanks to St. Louis Car's shotwelding of stainless steel parts to carbon steel and the extreme corrosion at the points where they were joined; that's what killed the R44 cars. Kawasaki had proposed useing the all-stainless steel and aluminum R32 shells to remanufacture them as new cars with the R160 features in A-B-B-B-A unit configuration like the R160s.
Noveltooner 3 months ago
dam I bet my Old boy Bombed that one during his bombing years...
ShadowXFX1 3 months ago
I love the sound it makes at 0:18
MisterAlexadner 3 months ago
@calleyne90 Oh yeah
metroliner89 4 months ago
Beautiful! Just beautiful! Coral will thrive on something like this, and this will make for a fascinating discovery for any divers 20-30 years into the future!
RocketRodder 4 months ago
Wmata never does this shit! GO WMATA!
metroliner89 5 months ago
Sad that this was when recycling was for suckers... they did it wrong anyways... and those cars could of made a whole new subway car...
nickeox 6 months ago
why would you dump it like that wouldnt the rust polluting the water destroy the reefs anyway
gtasandman 7 months ago 2
hey mta heres an idea
insted of throwing trains in the ocean.
melt them down and make new trains out of the old trains
RECYCLING
Dortizr160 8 months ago
well at least that was the last time they will "reef" a train as the MTA contract with the reefing company ended. now they just dismantle the trains.
JerichoUniverse 9 months ago
it s to stimulate sea life...not sure where there dumpin them out there but they use to do it with old rail cars out here in the west .youd be suprised how much shit is dumped in the ocean.try lookin up the trash island you'll fuckin loose it!...CHILL
LBSR71 9 months ago
why don't they just recycle the metal.. or sell them
retrotronikal 9 months ago
it's kinda sad =(
angievalefan1 9 months ago
Is This Even Legal ??
WTH Ii Find This Pointless ! Wouldn't This Be Called Dumping !??!??!
MS2MAN 9 months ago
0:18
jj34351 10 months ago
it was a legal way of ilegal dumping
gtasandman 10 months ago
what idiots. instead of spending money and harming the enviroment by tossing them into the ocean they could have sold them as scrap metal and made some money. or even better, convert them into places where people can live and let homeless people live in them.
KevinRobots 10 months ago
whats the whole point of throwing a train in the ocean? what? is the ocean gonna drive them NO! its water dummy water doesnt play with trains
chris40539 11 months ago
I want the r40 slants back on the N. I miss the slants! i hate r160 trains!
ChrisJakob510 11 months ago
good that they threw these stupid old tech trains away
swiiszy 11 months ago
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Hey...I thought they had their breifcases up their ass about being "environmentally friendly" and "green". You can "go green" by removing the 'Bestos, repairing these old cars, and putting them back in service!
It pollutes the environment more to keep re-producing rail cars and road cars instead of fixing up and repairing the old ones!
SeberHusky 11 months ago
FUCK IS THAT R32 TRAIN!!!!
FUCK THEY'RE RUINING THE PAST!!!!!
Romerjon17 1 year ago 4
they are polluting!
Rockgirl2go 1 year ago
MTA : Underwater Subway
sinchydogtrainz 1 year ago
Damn you MTA. You buy new trains and replace the old classics. I may have a plan for revenge.
R68love11 1 year ago
@R68love11 I know right.. and they always have budget problems but they keep buying more models of trains and making non needed changes
kill7ree 1 year ago
@R68love11 LMAO
easternpiro 1 year ago
these old school trains were the shit! I fucking hate watching this!
authentic09 1 year ago
and there goes a perfectly good R40 into the water **PLOP**
4P3607 1 year ago
@Romerjon17 I now they reuse all these parts to make newer trains instead of using them to make artificial reef ;)
FrEsHtOdEaTh1990 1 year ago
... recycle the fish popu... What fish population? NYC's been dumping hellzknows what in that ocean area for since the time some Brit sailor took a dump off'n th' poop deck of the HMS Killthenatives... hell throw some tires in there too- so after all the steel and aluminum
corrode away the mutant 'sealife' will have something to live in...
SittingMooseShaman 1 year ago
I don't think they should do this they should recycle the train cars
FrEsHtOdEaTh1990 1 year ago
@FrEsHtOdEaTh1990 They ARE being recycled -- they're being used as artificial reefs for sea life to thrive on them. So not only are you recycling the cars, you're recycling the fish population.
LoSamZayin 1 year ago
@LoSamZayin LOL recycling the fish population
easternpiro 1 year ago
@FrEsHtOdEaTh1990 Thats TRUE!
Romerjon17 1 year ago
i dont understand how they take away the good and smooth trains away and make the dumm trains
lala149 1 year ago
this is pollution
MrPivot127 1 year ago
@MrPivot127 no its not they put them in a pile to form an artificial reef
1digidude 1 year ago
yah the should save them in case a train crashed or something else happen to it
jonathan4ize 1 year ago
haha, throw those silver cars away! i mis the red birds
TotalGraffiti 1 year ago
i dontt like R40 just get on with throwing it away!
koolmazin 2 years ago 3
WTF is wrong with the mta anyway!
ApplePieManFromMars 2 years ago 3
@ApplePieManFromMars nothing
Moarburritosforu101 1 year ago
These were perfect trains!!
five0fan 2 years ago 5
This makes no fucking sense. Why don't they make one model of a train and stick with it. These R40's were perfectly good running trains, but NOO, they needa throw it in the damn ocean.
timo518 2 years ago 22
@timo518 I totally agree!
ApplePieManFromMars 2 years ago
@timo518 because it was past a 40 year life expectancy
Moarburritosforu101 1 year ago
@timo518 Even better, why don't they make model reefs instead of going through making something artificial, that's going to be used to look real but be artificial :L
MasterJHT 1 year ago
@timo518 Technology changes, upgrades are needed, companies stop making replacement parts. Example. Long Island Railroad designs their own engines, DE/DM-30, the company that made them went out of business, when they need parts, well that's too bad time for a new fleet.
uberstupidmove 1 year ago
@timo518 agreed
TheDalekdave 11 months ago
@timo518 Train cars has a life span of about 30 years. They will eventually have be replaced with newer up-to-date models as technilogy gets better. More expensive to overhaul/maintenance of older cars.
kidfrombrooklyn66 8 months ago
@kidfrombrooklyn66 its 40 yrs not 30
junjun798 2 months ago
@timo518 that's for fish and they are recycling anyway and stop talking about damn train numbers im a railfan and yet i don't care about the train number.
likitty20 6 months ago
@timo518 Suck it up and get with the times.
RocketRodder 4 months ago
@timo518 Along with the 68'sand the 44's they were one of the fastest
mrlal1234 3 months ago
@timo518 some people want to get to places faster. they throw the trains in the ocean to promote marine life and to control erosion
skorpeon450 3 months ago
@timo518 They were perfectly good running trains because they cost a fortune in maintenance with their age.
tryithere 3 months ago
@tryithere The V sets on the Cityrail Network in Sydney Australia were released in 1968 and there still on the rails (last one put on to tracks in 1989) so some of which are 44 odd years old and there a good reliable train there soon to be retired from 2020, there an awesome train and despite there age they are quieter and more comfertable then the Newer trains on the cityrail fleet but I prefer the Tangara's (Tangara is an aboriginal word meaing "TO GO" known as the T and G sets)
my90tp 2 months ago
dang I'm gonna miss these trains :(
At last they're at the transit museum now while the R-1 and R -9 are out for next month :D
Going to see them at the museum tomorrow
deadlyarrow23 2 years ago
why throw old trains in the water?
music1chanel 2 years ago 16
@music1chanel Natural reefs will grow on any hard substance, so the government and a group of scientists started to put unused Ships, trains, tanks, whatever else would be fitting for the job in order to increase the biomass in the ocean. It is actually pretty genius.
uberstupidmove 1 year ago
@music1chanel to maintain fish in the area they are thrown in, the trains will soon be overgrown and will make a good reef for fish
dansidan888 4 months ago
Did you know, the MTA seals it for $5 bucks and the trucks without the motor are sold for $250 a pice
Kyheem25 2 years ago
what a waste of metal
GTA4NikoB 2 years ago 5
bye bye R40 *sobs*
BVEguy 2 years ago 4
this almost made me cry. all the graffiti writers from NYC must have been sad when they saw this.
yrahcaz411 2 years ago 5
HOLY SHIT!
Videomaker326 2 years ago
at least those trains go down and have a usefull end as a playground for fish n stuff...our o,uld subway trains go to the blastfurnaces-recacling u know
mta77 2 years ago
its gonna be until 2011 until they finally see what to do about reefing. They better stop it and keep everything. I'm sick and tired of the MTA retiring and reefing all those "good memory" trains.
DaSt00G3s 2 years ago 3
Wow, a fucking reef in new york?
trainboy99 2 years ago
They Reefing R40 and the rest of them into the Sea since they were Retired
Georgejoyrider 2 years ago
THAT IS ONE DAMN STRONG CRANE
BROAdWAYexpressN 3 years ago 3
think about the probably millions of people that car transported
phatguy25 3 years ago 4
poor R40 !!
rafigonzalez 3 years ago 4
WTF?!
LukRacer 3 years ago 3