It's amusing how they always keep the Galaxy class starships' registrations out of view so that no one realizes that they're all the NCC-1701-D Enterprise.
@namedonimpulse They didn't always. In a later episode, one of them gets close enough so we could see it was the USS Galaxy herself. (Apparently the class namesake survived longer than three of her younger sisters.) :)
What i still dont get is why the hell does Starfleet send Miranda Class starships to massive battles... You see them everywhere... Since most of them wont make it out of a battle alive (or even the ship still intact) they might as well use the computer to use it to kamikaze or something.
@TheLastPieceOfBacon - Mirandas are basically the filler ships: token ships to include so you can see actual federation casualties and such, but not important enough to make people wonder why it doesn't become a plot point that such-and-such a ship was destroyed.
This battle is so unrealistic. I've accepted that they have spaceships, and warp drives, and every other coool space tech and weapons, but the battle is so illogical. They're in space!!! Why are hundreds of ships huddled in a tiny area where there is barely enough room to manuver?
you have long range weapons and a completely open battlefield where you can attack from literally any direction. why in the bluehell would you group your ships into a close formation where if the enemy misses one they may hit another? where a crippled ship has a high chance to hit a friendly ship or even friendly fire becomes a real issue? Why are these ships not spread in EVERY DIRECTION and why are they not hundreds if not thousands of miles apart from one another?
This part of DS9 is arguably one of the best space battles in the entirety composing DS9, TNG, and Voyager. It's also one of the few where the Federation's equivalent of a "fighter" ship shows up, the Peregrine. And it presents a clear case for the Defiant being likely the most powerful of any ship in the Federation, including yes, the Enterprise.
@Pyradonis They were actually really desperate at this point in the war. They were pulling old ships out of mothballs to fill the ranks of destroyed ships. The Federation pulled out all the stops to retake DS9 because if they didn't, the war was as good as lost. At the point this battle took place, it was literally a matter of hours before the wormhole mines were disabled and the Dominion were able to simply pour through.
Look at what Star Trek has been reduced to. Starships dogfighting over a space station... Klingon officers serving in Star Fleet... Kirk stealing a car and getting beat up in a barfight... A super-human android wanting to be more human... Suliban fighting a temporal cold war with the past... Biological lifeforms assimilating one another into a collective... This is most illogical, Captain. Most illogical indeed.
I was always surprised with how 'conventional' these battles were, why wasn't everyone venting plasma or focusing polychron particles through their deflector arrays or something? So uncreative :P I also love how the ships are flying so close together they crash into eachother every time gets hit, if only space was infinite right?
You know what would have been funny if when the to fleets were still waiting to attack a little ship maybe some sort of cargo ship (not involved in the war) just came out of warp between the two fleets and just have a WTF moment before running off
@miloootic Ya, notice how DS9 never used Intrepids or Sovereign classes in their space battles? Even though those are newer ship classes that clearly would be used in these battles..I think the reason they did this was so as not to confuse the audience into thinking it was either Voyager or the Enterprise E (since the movies came out around this time).Diehard Trekkies obviously would know its not either ship on DS9, but others might not.
At 1:22, A Klingon Vorcha cruiser partially passed THROUGH a Cardassian ship..I think the CGI dept probably got a little confused with so many ships in the shot at once..
This just gets better with age. Compared to what budgets are for TV shows now and the sophistication of CGI today, they did a magnificent job back in the late 90s and still put a lot of today's shows to shame.
Time for some pining for the good ol' days methinks...
The NX-04 should be Referenced in Hindsight as the Reliant. That ship name was Smeared by Khan. Her name was Once Honorable.
Star Trek 12 should have a USS Reliant, NCC-1864 in it as a " Wink " to Star Trek 2 The Wrath of Khan" which really did in Fact Bring Star Trek back,Period.
@starflame34 One of the Klingon Bird of Prey's crew thought for a second about retreating should the battle go poorly for them, so to prevent this dissent from contaminating the Empire, the dishonoured ship was destroyed so the crew would regain their honour and enter Sto'vo'kor.
Something tells me after the Dominion War the Federation began to invest a little bit more in military technology. They almost got their asses handed to them during this war.
Starships DO have shields; it's just the stupid Dominion ships that can take down older ships like Mirandas and Excelsiors or smaller craft like the Defiant class ships or small attack fighters. Dominion ships are freakin' powerful and can easily get through old ships' shields!
@Romulan64 And if you notice, The Galaxy Class ships are pasting the Cardassians really hard - the same kind of Cardassian ships the Enterprise easily defeated in The Wounded, while those Galor class ships are having trouble taking down old Mirandas, and at 0:25 we can see one of the Federation fighters take a hit, but the explosion is a bit away, suggesting its shields took the blow, before a second blast blew it apart.
@66D00ds At this point in the timeline, the Enterprise-D was already gone. The only Enterprise in this battle would be the Enterprise-E, if it's there at all (we don't see it in any of the footage). So, from what we see, there are no Enterprises.
@culiculi459 They didn't Just before the war started, they focused production completely on warship class designs, such as the akira, saber, & defiant classes, and halted production on galaxy & nebula class production. All of the Miranda, Excelsior, Galaxy, Nebula class ships were already in service in the fleet, and used to supplement the newer classes. Although extremely formidable, the Galaxy was no longer worth the "bang for the buck" thanks to wide spread kamikaze attacks by the Jemhadar
@culiculi459 - The Miranda class was built in the 23rd century...around the time of Kirk. And was a good design and became one of the few workhorses of the Federation. Thus when the war broke out, there were lots of them still around.
Never seen this stuff, but, I'd guess on the shields that at least as far as technical reasons would be the shape of the fields might make it so that the ships cannot move as close to each other as they are here without bouncing off of each others shields. Also, by lowering shields, firepower and engines could get a bit of a power boost from the unused shield energy. Just a random guess though.
@HelmutVillam - hell yeah...look behind the two shootin' up the Galor and you can see 1 rushing in and another back in behind the second Galaxy shooting as well. Awesome video :)
The writers / SFX guys watched some Babylon 5 and saw battles that looked nice, fast paced and chaotic...like you would expect a large-scale battle would be... so they came up with the Dominion's weaponry being capable of slicing through shields like they weren't even there.
Watch some of Star Trek's early battles, they're slow slugfests.
@KaneinEncanto The SFX guys WERE the same guys who did B5. Paramount poached them after Season 3 of B5 to work for them. Hence the Battles suddenly got more kinetic on and a vaster scale. BUT, and like Beyonce's rear it's a firm one, Star Trek never really had the same feel for tactics that B5 had. The B5 battles always made a lot more sense tactically then anything Trek ever managed to produce.
The battles in DS9 were ruined by how easily the ships explode. It feels more like a starwars space-fighter battle than a clash between massive warships. I doubt starfleet would bother building massive ships with thousands of crew members if they exploded after 2 phaser hits.
@KrazyKommieKiller B5 always managed the best ship damage and destruction imo. It still has the crowning moment of space fights of the moment when mid fight for Babylon 5 it cut to show the Omega Destroyer 'Churchill' a mass of rent armour and fires. Back in the days where ships tended to explode it was a gut wrenching show of the potential of CGI.
@ilikemyhamthankyou98 I WAS'NT SAYING ANYTHING BAD PERSONALLY I LIKE STAR TREK AND STAR WARS TOO BUT, I WATCHED THAT EPISODE OF D.S. NINE BACK IN 1998 THAT'S HOW OLD THIS EPISODE IS THATS WHY I SAID THAT WAS THE SHIT!! IT'S A GOOD EPISODE I SAY THE BEST EVER!! REAL TALK!!
never likeed DS 9 the space battles were too fake considering the range of the weapons...i think the special effects team had a contest on how many startships they could cram into a screen shot
Flying in formation in space = bad idea. Your movements become predictable and you become an easy target. Just fly one junk ship loaded with antimatter into the middle at warp 9 and collide with the centermost ship. Boom. No more enemy.
I know I can't be first person to notice this but wasn't there a point when ships could withstand more than two hits? I think defiant is only ship with shields.
Starfleet designers are terrible, why must we always have the warp engines be attached to pylons and then the hull? if the engines get shot off, the ship is screwed.
why not mount the engines on the hull like the defiant?
@MrCanadianComedian it's definitely not, aircraft dont have armor like land vehicles, they are designed have a strong airframe while be as light as possible, so no armor plating(yet).
you're thinking of the advantages of military aircraft performance against a commercial aircraft, which doesnt involve into damage resistance by design.
@CrypticWatcher From what I've read most Federation Starfleet ships have their warp nacelles mounted on pylons to minimize the radiation danger to the crew. The Defiant class which is a new design has the nacelles moved in to the minimal safe distance but are more heavily shielded from the personnel areas of the ship.
they made this more a fighter craft battle then a naval battle like it should of been. Come to think of it, makes no sense not to use small fighter craft in a massive war like this.
@obsidian179 all these ships do, even the little marquis fighters. idk why this wasn't shown in the battle. maybe because they wanted to show shit blowing up?
@obsidian179 If they had left the shields on then the Federation would actually have to have an intelligent tactical plan other than throw wave after wave of what should be useless attack fighters at the Cardassians in the hopes of getting them to stupidly move out of position. And if they left the shields on the battle would have taken days to finish. Can't fit that long of a battle into a single episode.
@obsidian179 the dominion had the ability to pass the federations shields (im guesing others as well) so their attacks kept hitting the hull straight away and in the star trek uniform hulls werent much
@CymruAlteran Actually, they came up with a countermeasure with that very early on. If you are referring to why we don't see shields, according to the producers, it would simply be too expensive and difficult.
@obsidian179 I should think the Cardassian phasers have been significantly upgraded by the Dominion, allowing them to punch through shields more easily.
I you think about all the Star Trek spin offs that could be made, there is the early comand of Picard when he comanded the Stargazer, there is alot of history not told with the first Cardasian war, there is alot of history with the many years of Federation vs Klingon war, Star Trek Enterprise just started to touch on that before the plug got pulled.
It's amusing how they always keep the Galaxy class starships' registrations out of view so that no one realizes that they're all the NCC-1701-D Enterprise.
namedonimpulse 1 week ago
@namedonimpulse They didn't always. In a later episode, one of them gets close enough so we could see it was the USS Galaxy herself. (Apparently the class namesake survived longer than three of her younger sisters.) :)
tyranusfan 5 days ago
Klingons, they always join at the end and hog all the glory.
vandal420 1 week ago
0:41 Galaxy gang bang.
aj74205 2 weeks ago
now this is what I'm talking about. kinda reminds me of EVE online fleet battles.
xenomagnus 2 weeks ago
My favorite part of the whole DS9 series right here...
JoeGuy0000 3 weeks ago
What i still dont get is why the hell does Starfleet send Miranda Class starships to massive battles... You see them everywhere... Since most of them wont make it out of a battle alive (or even the ship still intact) they might as well use the computer to use it to kamikaze or something.
TheLastPieceOfBacon 1 month ago 2
@TheLastPieceOfBacon - Mirandas are basically the filler ships: token ships to include so you can see actual federation casualties and such, but not important enough to make people wonder why it doesn't become a plot point that such-and-such a ship was destroyed.
CaitiVoltaire 4 weeks ago
Just noticed this, where do the two mirandas that are flanking the defiant in the initial charge go once the camera pans, at about 30 seconds in?
plexeh 1 month ago
This battle is so unrealistic. I've accepted that they have spaceships, and warp drives, and every other coool space tech and weapons, but the battle is so illogical. They're in space!!! Why are hundreds of ships huddled in a tiny area where there is barely enough room to manuver?
samysasy419 1 month ago
@samysasy419 Of course ships are designed to engage at 100,000km+, but why not go for a knife fight if your enemy isn't expecting it?
GangsterHutterite 1 month ago
@GangsterHutterite The enemy isn't expecting a knife fight, because the enemy brought guns, really big guns...
samysasy419 1 month ago
@samysasy419 Because it's a TV show, it's fake. If it was real they'd never fly past eachother and there would be nothing to watch.
danyeo 2 weeks ago
you have long range weapons and a completely open battlefield where you can attack from literally any direction. why in the bluehell would you group your ships into a close formation where if the enemy misses one they may hit another? where a crippled ship has a high chance to hit a friendly ship or even friendly fire becomes a real issue? Why are these ships not spread in EVERY DIRECTION and why are they not hundreds if not thousands of miles apart from one another?
Fektthis 1 month ago
This part of DS9 is arguably one of the best space battles in the entirety composing DS9, TNG, and Voyager. It's also one of the few where the Federation's equivalent of a "fighter" ship shows up, the Peregrine. And it presents a clear case for the Defiant being likely the most powerful of any ship in the Federation, including yes, the Enterprise.
CulannHS 1 month ago
1:40... have fun.
LetsFifaWithChelsea 1 month ago
Love the Defiant.
333oceanbreeze 1 month ago
I saw this but let me just ask.
Where is the Fucking Enterprise????
LordHannigan 2 months ago
@LordHannigan I think 0:40 might be Enterprise, or her sister ship Im not sure
NemesisMarine01 2 months ago
@NemesisMarine01 I don't think so it would have been acknowledged. I think it was just another Galaxy class ships.
LordHannigan 2 months ago
@NemesisMarine01
Enterprise was destroyed in 2371, this battle was in 2379.
The Galaxy classes here are most likely Challenger, Venture and other unnamed ships.
HelmutVillam 2 months ago
@HelmutVillam Awwh sucks that
NemesisMarine01 2 months ago
@NemesisMarine01 By this time, the Enterprise you are thinking about was destroyed.
BMWM3GTRLOVER 1 month ago
@LordHannigan Enterprise E was kept strictly as a movie ship which sucks I know.
BMWM3GTRLOVER 1 month ago
1:33
Honestly?!! How did two Birds-of-Prey and a Defiant-class manage to destroy a DOMINION BATTLESHIP with only a few hits???
sephservant 2 months ago
@sephservant Have you ever played Star trek online before!
anthony2806 2 months ago
0:40 You think you are hard Mr Cardassian ? Have some Galaxy Class Firepower....
h3akalee 3 months ago
Star wars is shit!
badwolfvlm 3 months ago
How desperate must the Federation be to send Miranda-class ships into battle?
Pyradonis 3 months ago
@Pyradonis They were actually really desperate at this point in the war. They were pulling old ships out of mothballs to fill the ranks of destroyed ships. The Federation pulled out all the stops to retake DS9 because if they didn't, the war was as good as lost. At the point this battle took place, it was literally a matter of hours before the wormhole mines were disabled and the Dominion were able to simply pour through.
DistendedPerinium 3 months ago
1:29 bellissima azione
lollus2000 4 months ago
Star Wars don't stand a chance.
Idazmi7 4 months ago
Star Fleet: EVERYONE DROP SHEILDS!
icestorm218 4 months ago 2
Look at what Star Trek has been reduced to. Starships dogfighting over a space station... Klingon officers serving in Star Fleet... Kirk stealing a car and getting beat up in a barfight... A super-human android wanting to be more human... Suliban fighting a temporal cold war with the past... Biological lifeforms assimilating one another into a collective... This is most illogical, Captain. Most illogical indeed.
Edocsil6437 5 months ago
I was always surprised with how 'conventional' these battles were, why wasn't everyone venting plasma or focusing polychron particles through their deflector arrays or something? So uncreative :P I also love how the ships are flying so close together they crash into eachother every time gets hit, if only space was infinite right?
TheRhinehart86 5 months ago
@TheRhinehart86 And they always said space was so big.
losigler 5 months ago
@losigler Well, then they wouldn't be able to fit in on your TV screen.
danyeo 4 months ago
where's the part where that octopus guy says It's a trap?
NilChoudhury 5 months ago 15
@NilChoudhury wrong franchise, dude
B1izzardHawk 3 months ago
@B1izzardHawk Is this the one with the cylons? I like the remake they had on sci fi...
NilChoudhury 3 months ago 8
@NilChoudhury no
B1izzardHawk 3 months ago
@B1izzardHawk so what ur telling me is that this battle was to help Frodo travel through Mordor by distracting Sauron's fleet of starships?
NilChoudhury 3 months ago 10
@NilChoudhury no, this is star trek deep space 9, the octopus guy saying that it's a trap is from Star Wars Episode 6: Return of the Jedi
B1izzardHawk 3 months ago
@B1izzardHawk k, got it. So Buck Rogers is piloting one of those ships?
NilChoudhury 3 months ago 6
@NilChoudhury ok, now your just screwing with me
B1izzardHawk 3 months ago
@B1izzardHawk So why don't those ships launch their mobile suits. Where is the Gundam?
NilChoudhury 3 months ago 5
ever play the Ultimate Universe mod for Star Trek Legacy? it has this battle in it i think...
Belgarion234 5 months ago
@Belgarion234 i play galactic civilization
mariamole011 5 months ago
@jceiras
They're not shooting lasers, first off.
Second, go point a laser pointer at something from 5 feet away, now try it from 50 feet, 100 feet, and 1000 feet.
JaedwynClements 6 months ago
nananannananhanahanahna......Kligons? 1:19
greshattack 6 months ago
This should be a movie... it's too bad they didn't give it the HUGE budget some StarWars movies had. The Dominion war would have been even more EPIC!
FoxBatinaHat 6 months ago
You know what would have been funny if when the to fleets were still waiting to attack a little ship maybe some sort of cargo ship (not involved in the war) just came out of warp between the two fleets and just have a WTF moment before running off
CymruAlteran 6 months ago 3
@CymruAlteran LOL
sgtmyers88 5 months ago
Why can't they just go round them?
sirisaac2000 6 months ago
i would have loved to see intrepid class swooping around and blasting evryone
miloootic 6 months ago
@miloootic Ya, notice how DS9 never used Intrepids or Sovereign classes in their space battles? Even though those are newer ship classes that clearly would be used in these battles..I think the reason they did this was so as not to confuse the audience into thinking it was either Voyager or the Enterprise E (since the movies came out around this time).Diehard Trekkies obviously would know its not either ship on DS9, but others might not.
Quisquellano26 5 months ago
Netflix now has TOS
MrKellG 6 months ago
Mmmmmm... Bacon tasty bacon
cokeblob11 6 months ago
It would have been really cool if the Borg showed up and assimilated everyone.... The End.
happymax1 7 months ago
When the Klingons come in, that was the best moment in DS9!
mongoingo 7 months ago 3
That was suicide! Just look at how badly those Federation ships got owned!
starflame34 7 months ago
One has to wonder with spaceships even need to get close to fire a laser, which is just light... !
jceiras 7 months ago
"It must've been pure hell being inside of a starship that was flipping around after being hit!"
MrWINNSLAW 7 months ago
Netflix sucks! It doesn't have any Star Trek series on Instant Queue!
starflame34 7 months ago
@starflame34 It does now, actually.
aventine62 6 months ago
@aventine62 yeah, actually figured that out my-self couple days ago, but thanks anyways.
starflame34 6 months ago
wait are those miranda class ships they're using too? aren't they pretty old?
littlejacobhughes 7 months ago
i swear the Bird of Prey that explodes at 1:29 was hit by friendly fire!
BMWM3GTRLOVER 7 months ago 24
@BMWM3GTRLOVER it was lol :)
cowboykenny21 7 months ago
@BMWM3GTRLOVER yeah you're right lol
littlejacobhughes 7 months ago
@BMWM3GTRLOVER probably an American at the helm! XD
MrXclio 6 months ago 3
@BMWM3GTRLOVER Klingons: Shooting first and asking questions later since 2154.
Culane 6 months ago 2
@BMWM3GTRLOVER me too
MegaTitanicboy 5 months ago
@BMWM3GTRLOVER Youre right! it was hit by ANOTHER BOP!
Quisquellano26 5 months ago
At 1:22, A Klingon Vorcha cruiser partially passed THROUGH a Cardassian ship..I think the CGI dept probably got a little confused with so many ships in the shot at once..
Quisquellano26 5 months ago
@Quisquellano26 well its hard to tell
BMWM3GTRLOVER 5 months ago
@BMWM3GTRLOVER It probibly was. Think about it. Someone tried to simulate a bar room brawl with this firefight.
cabbievonbump 3 months ago
@BMWM3GTRLOVER The weapons computer malfunctioned.
Oops.
benjaminmullin96 2 months ago
@BMWM3GTRLOVER hahahah imagine what the captain is saying to the gunner on that ship!!!
Syed1792000 1 month ago
HELL Yeah Klingon Reinforcements!!!
CorranHorn3331 8 months ago
awesome editing thanks for the post
kohstamojahn 8 months ago
01:15 ENTER THE KLINGONS! Q'apla!!!
Blade92776 8 months ago
This just gets better with age. Compared to what budgets are for TV shows now and the sophistication of CGI today, they did a magnificent job back in the late 90s and still put a lot of today's shows to shame.
Time for some pining for the good ol' days methinks...
jongredic 8 months ago 2
Nicely edited. It was a lot of fun to watch.
TomatoeAssassin 8 months ago 2
The NX-04 should be Referenced in Hindsight as the Reliant. That ship name was Smeared by Khan. Her name was Once Honorable.
Star Trek 12 should have a USS Reliant, NCC-1864 in it as a " Wink " to Star Trek 2 The Wrath of Khan" which really did in Fact Bring Star Trek back,Period.
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KenethDominguez 8 months ago
1:31 WTF! The klingon ship shot one of it's own!
starflame34 8 months ago 3
@starflame34 You know what they say: Lead, follow or get the hell out of the way.
TomatoeAssassin 8 months ago
@starflame34 Your right, I saw the Bird o Prey kill its counterpart there!
TheMontanaDave 8 months ago
@starflame34 One of the Klingon Bird of Prey's crew thought for a second about retreating should the battle go poorly for them, so to prevent this dissent from contaminating the Empire, the dishonoured ship was destroyed so the crew would regain their honour and enter Sto'vo'kor.
randomface54 7 months ago
I never saw this entire episode, so could someone tell me who exactly wins this? The Federation and its allies or the Cardassians?
TheLegolasguy 8 months ago
Something tells me after the Dominion War the Federation began to invest a little bit more in military technology. They almost got their asses handed to them during this war.
smcneal057 8 months ago
Some starships dont need shields, there are some without shields that can take a nuke and survive.
LordKorloros 8 months ago
this is fucking awesome.
youresoshain 8 months ago
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starflame34 8 months ago
The Defiant had bitchin firepower!
scidriver 9 months ago
Starships DO have shields; it's just the stupid Dominion ships that can take down older ships like Mirandas and Excelsiors or smaller craft like the Defiant class ships or small attack fighters. Dominion ships are freakin' powerful and can easily get through old ships' shields!
Romulan64 9 months ago
@Romulan64 And if you notice, The Galaxy Class ships are pasting the Cardassians really hard - the same kind of Cardassian ships the Enterprise easily defeated in The Wounded, while those Galor class ships are having trouble taking down old Mirandas, and at 0:25 we can see one of the Federation fighters take a hit, but the explosion is a bit away, suggesting its shields took the blow, before a second blast blew it apart.
Teranewone 9 months ago
how many enterprises are there!?
66D00ds 9 months ago
@66D00ds At this point in the timeline, the Enterprise-D was already gone. The only Enterprise in this battle would be the Enterprise-E, if it's there at all (we don't see it in any of the footage). So, from what we see, there are no Enterprises.
eepruls 9 months ago
so why the hell did starfleet mass-produce crsppy ships like the miranda when the war started?
culiculi459 9 months ago
@culiculi459 They didn't Just before the war started, they focused production completely on warship class designs, such as the akira, saber, & defiant classes, and halted production on galaxy & nebula class production. All of the Miranda, Excelsior, Galaxy, Nebula class ships were already in service in the fleet, and used to supplement the newer classes. Although extremely formidable, the Galaxy was no longer worth the "bang for the buck" thanks to wide spread kamikaze attacks by the Jemhadar
CrimsonMystery 9 months ago
@culiculi459 - The Miranda class was built in the 23rd century...around the time of Kirk. And was a good design and became one of the few workhorses of the Federation. Thus when the war broke out, there were lots of them still around.
dougeagle 9 months ago
@dougeagle I remember using the Miranda in one of the Starfleet Academy games. A good ship if I say so myself.
TheLegolasguy 8 months ago
Never seen this stuff, but, I'd guess on the shields that at least as far as technical reasons would be the shape of the fields might make it so that the ships cannot move as close to each other as they are here without bouncing off of each others shields. Also, by lowering shields, firepower and engines could get a bit of a power boost from the unused shield energy. Just a random guess though.
TheMobiusTrap 9 months ago
0:41 FUCK YEAH Galaxy Class ownage!!!
HelmutVillam 10 months ago 40
@HelmutVillam - hell yeah...look behind the two shootin' up the Galor and you can see 1 rushing in and another back in behind the second Galaxy shooting as well. Awesome video :)
dougeagle 8 months ago
@HelmutVillam yea it was great to see that after the galaxy class ship was destroyed
CymruAlteran 8 months ago
@HelmutVillam WOOOOOO!!!!! My favorite ship of the line. Mmmm.
Thanks for the upload!
Shaprika 8 months ago
All the of the sudden the Cardasian(sp) ships are as powerful as Federation Starships?
RCTPatriot75 10 months ago
90s sci-fi <3
richardmaudsley77 10 months ago 2
My bet:
The writers / SFX guys watched some Babylon 5 and saw battles that looked nice, fast paced and chaotic...like you would expect a large-scale battle would be... so they came up with the Dominion's weaponry being capable of slicing through shields like they weren't even there.
Watch some of Star Trek's early battles, they're slow slugfests.
Just my bet...
KaneinEncanto 10 months ago
@KaneinEncanto The SFX guys WERE the same guys who did B5. Paramount poached them after Season 3 of B5 to work for them. Hence the Battles suddenly got more kinetic on and a vaster scale. BUT, and like Beyonce's rear it's a firm one, Star Trek never really had the same feel for tactics that B5 had. The B5 battles always made a lot more sense tactically then anything Trek ever managed to produce.
ScreamingTc 10 months ago
what the hell is a noob?
lovelace1964 10 months ago
they cut the shields out when obama took office
lovelace1964 10 months ago
The battles in DS9 were ruined by how easily the ships explode. It feels more like a starwars space-fighter battle than a clash between massive warships. I doubt starfleet would bother building massive ships with thousands of crew members if they exploded after 2 phaser hits.
KrazyKommieKiller 10 months ago
@KrazyKommieKiller B5 always managed the best ship damage and destruction imo. It still has the crowning moment of space fights of the moment when mid fight for Babylon 5 it cut to show the Omega Destroyer 'Churchill' a mass of rent armour and fires. Back in the days where ships tended to explode it was a gut wrenching show of the potential of CGI.
ScreamingTc 10 months ago
WHERE WAS THEIR SHIELDS?? THE FEDERATION GOT ASS- RAPED JUS A LITTLE IF IT WERE'NT FOR THE KLINGONS SAVING THE DAY!!
marshallk24 10 months ago
YOU SHOULD OF CUT IN N OUT OF MAIN BATTLE SCENE , SHOWING MORE DIRECT DESTRUCTION OF STARSHIP WESSELES N ADD SOMR SLOW MOTION CLOSEUP EXPLOSIONS
TOMSLASSIE 10 months ago
i find it hilarious how only the defiant had their shields up but no one else did
guitarhero849 10 months ago
@guitarhero849 That's because Warf was on the bridge of the Defiant.
MBails1987 10 months ago
THAT WAS THE SHIT!!!
marshallk24 10 months ago
@marshallk24 you suck you know, i want to see you make this battle make it happen with your computer im offended i like star trek
ilikemyhamthankyou98 10 months ago
@ilikemyhamthankyou98 I WAS'NT SAYING ANYTHING BAD PERSONALLY I LIKE STAR TREK AND STAR WARS TOO BUT, I WATCHED THAT EPISODE OF D.S. NINE BACK IN 1998 THAT'S HOW OLD THIS EPISODE IS THATS WHY I SAID THAT WAS THE SHIT!! IT'S A GOOD EPISODE I SAY THE BEST EVER!! REAL TALK!!
marshallk24 10 months ago
Miranda class ships seem to have a history of getting owned by just about everything
skeve613 10 months ago
Massive starships, now with the lifespan of a Tie-Fighter. What happend to Star Trek ?
TTOTheTrueOne 10 months ago
The 2nd smallest ship in the entire fleet is the only one that didn't take damage, wtf!
starflame34 10 months ago
How the Defiant got through all that carnage unharmed is beyond me.
MrMcb1990 10 months ago
@MrMcb1990 If you watched the episode they suffered a lot of internal damage getting through.
eyeofbast 10 months ago
@eyeofbast Starfleet vessels, strong on the outside, weak on the inside even with such sleek, fast, streamlined ships like the USS Defiant.
MrMcb1990 10 months ago
never likeed DS 9 the space battles were too fake considering the range of the weapons...i think the special effects team had a contest on how many startships they could cram into a screen shot
RJF1966 10 months ago
Flying in formation in space = bad idea. Your movements become predictable and you become an easy target. Just fly one junk ship loaded with antimatter into the middle at warp 9 and collide with the centermost ship. Boom. No more enemy.
fredthefrowner 11 months ago
I know I can't be first person to notice this but wasn't there a point when ships could withstand more than two hits? I think defiant is only ship with shields.
Chessbama 11 months ago
Starfleet designers are terrible, why must we always have the warp engines be attached to pylons and then the hull? if the engines get shot off, the ship is screwed.
why not mount the engines on the hull like the defiant?
CrypticWatcher 11 months ago
@CrypticWatcher Most of these ships were not designed for combat.
MrCanadianComedian 11 months ago
@MrCanadianComedian that's saying commercial aircraft can have their engines to fall off while military aircraft shouldn't
CrypticWatcher 11 months ago
@CrypticWatcher Is it not easier to shoot the engine of a commercial aircraft than a military one?
MrCanadianComedian 11 months ago
@MrCanadianComedian it's definitely not, aircraft dont have armor like land vehicles, they are designed have a strong airframe while be as light as possible, so no armor plating(yet).
you're thinking of the advantages of military aircraft performance against a commercial aircraft, which doesnt involve into damage resistance by design.
CrypticWatcher 11 months ago
@CrypticWatcher so right
TheStargatefan1000 11 months ago
@CrypticWatcher From what I've read most Federation Starfleet ships have their warp nacelles mounted on pylons to minimize the radiation danger to the crew. The Defiant class which is a new design has the nacelles moved in to the minimal safe distance but are more heavily shielded from the personnel areas of the ship.
seebee077 3 months ago
they made this more a fighter craft battle then a naval battle like it should of been. Come to think of it, makes no sense not to use small fighter craft in a massive war like this.
vguyver2 11 months ago
I think the MIranda class is the redshirt of starfleet.
tslebeau 11 months ago
Why are there like 20 Enterprise D's?
EliteAdmiral 11 months ago
@EliteAdmiral there galaxy class.. by that time they could make more of them..
RemusRomulas 11 months ago
@RemusRomulas I still woulda thought there would of been some differences lol.. Picard is like... wtf -.-
EliteAdmiral 11 months ago
This is why I love star trek, and despise starwars
CptPicard832 1 year ago
Klingons are just too awesome.
Talixir 1 year ago
Maybe the dominion used special tech to drop other starships shields and use troops to attack the Feds.
GunUmDown82 1 year ago
Remember when starships used to have shields?
obsidian179 1 year ago 74
@obsidian179
They needed all power to fire the phasers
Snowwie88 11 months ago
@obsidian179 all these ships do, even the little marquis fighters. idk why this wasn't shown in the battle. maybe because they wanted to show shit blowing up?
xKILLZONAx 10 months ago
@obsidian179 If they had left the shields on then the Federation would actually have to have an intelligent tactical plan other than throw wave after wave of what should be useless attack fighters at the Cardassians in the hopes of getting them to stupidly move out of position. And if they left the shields on the battle would have taken days to finish. Can't fit that long of a battle into a single episode.
Fbueller129 10 months ago
@obsidian179 iirc they said it would have taken too much time if they rendered shields for each ship
DShadow911 10 months ago
@obsidian179 the federation are playing with the Mythic Scull on ;)
pw8987 10 months ago
@obsidian179 Pepperidge Farm remembers....
simpsonfan13 9 months ago 2
@obsidian179 only hero ships have shields lol
cloudinfinity 9 months ago
@obsidian179 I think everyone's shields went down pretty quick, with that much action going on
pacificimporters 8 months ago
@obsidian179 "We can't repel firepower of that magnitude!"
andrewxc1335 8 months ago
@obsidian179 the dominion had the ability to pass the federations shields (im guesing others as well) so their attacks kept hitting the hull straight away and in the star trek uniform hulls werent much
CymruAlteran 8 months ago
@CymruAlteran Actually, they came up with a countermeasure with that very early on. If you are referring to why we don't see shields, according to the producers, it would simply be too expensive and difficult.
aventine62 6 months ago
@obsidian179 I should think the Cardassian phasers have been significantly upgraded by the Dominion, allowing them to punch through shields more easily.
BMWM3GTRLOVER 7 months ago
@obsidian179
its cause of the dominion weapons, they have to use different shields.
WhiteTiger1607 7 months ago
i know u r but wat am i
roush26 1 year ago
I you think about all the Star Trek spin offs that could be made, there is the early comand of Picard when he comanded the Stargazer, there is alot of history not told with the first Cardasian war, there is alot of history with the many years of Federation vs Klingon war, Star Trek Enterprise just started to touch on that before the plug got pulled.
hinahanta 1 year ago
@hinahanta Sounds too boring to me.
JediBillman 1 year ago
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whitemanstand72 1 year ago
star trek would fuck star wars up, wat a fucken x wing against a defiant class?
roush26 1 year ago
@roush26 idiot
whitemanstand72 1 year ago
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roush26 1 year ago
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roush26 1 year ago
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whitemanstand72 1 year ago
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roush26 1 year ago
@roush26 an idiot
whitemanstand72 1 year ago
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roush26 1 year ago
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whitemanstand72 1 year ago
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roush26 1 year ago
@roush26 an idiot
whitemanstand72 1 year ago