Christianity is NOT a religion we do not pray to idols and he said "OUR FATHER" because God is he's father and the father of the earth so he can say that, we do not worship any idols Muslims pray facing mecca y? the devil can use any 1so if u say that does bad things done by so called Christians is what we do so y cant we say u bombing and killing is what u do? salvation is PERSONAL please do NOT argue my Faith and we wouldn't argue yours understand d bible b4 u start quoting it Thank you
There are a ton of false statements in here. He says a God died and cant be created. Jesus is the one who died. Jesus is the son of God but since they are side by side in heaven, technically they are the same. God spoke through Jesus in the New Testament. The Cross isnt a symbol of death. Its a symbol of life and what Jesus did for us. And our religion doesnt tell us to kill others who dont believe. I am just saying. This whole video is a misunderstanding of what Christianity is.
@xxPCPlumxx50 Being a muslim myself, I don't hate jews. I don't know why any group religious, racial, ethnic, etc. would ever hate another group purely for being so. I don't know any other muslims who hate jews. Not even sure where you got this idea...
We do not wear the cross vaguely. We don't wear it for fun and not for bad intension. We wear it in remembrance of the sacrifice God made for us. He wasn't murdered, he was executed. He was killed but never muted. He resurrected and then protected. He died so we didn't have to kill. Kill life for forgiveness of our sin. He did it protect us from the world, that we currently live in.
As a Christian I believe in one God the Father! and one lord...Jesus 1 Cor 8-6. Also as Christians we are suppsed to worship God alone! and do this according to, and in the name of Jesus
I feel like everyone truly needs to learn their history! This is just proof that people have taken the word and manipulated it and turned into what they want to believe what they want. It proves they are clueless to what Jesus really was and really said. This shows true complete ignorance!
@cavigtorres Lol.Common Kid as I can see you sent this message 2 days ago which means your living in the present, with your comment you have just contradicted yourself for the"word"is different stories by mankind you were not there in the past to witness any of this, so how are you so different from us who are apparently"clueless"to what Jesus really said?I see your comment no more arrogant than this videos.Come on now.. use critical thinking and stop piggy backing on the scriptures
"In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight." St.Luke 10
Clearly is written that JESUS said "O Father" !!!!
The cross is more of a memory , of how he died for our sins. Its not what you Muslims think, even the bible says jesus is the son of god with godly power, you guys just want people to see islam as a a religion of being right all the time. But its islamist who commit sucide and spread murder. You guys might call me a ricest but im doing the this guy as this guy in the vid doing doing.
Love how your Old Testament and Gospel (Injeel) reference verses are taken out of context - You say Jesus didn't claim to be God and didn't want to be worshipped so why in John 14:6 does he say 'I am the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE. NO-ONE comes to the Father except through ME'. ?? The problem with Islam, is that it's a DO religion - you don't know you are saved - you only hope you've done enough to get in when you die which sadly will never be enough without JESUS.
I really enjoyed this video. Even though I think the interpretation of why Christians wear the cross is a bit off, everything else in this was a GREAT explanation of Muslim beliefs regarding Jesus! Awesome! I'm sure a lot of Christians will be surprised.
@johnthemanish Why is this man a retarded mother fucker?..I dont get it. He politely gave his views on things in the Universe in a rhyme. Why are you so angry about it? Baby Jesus would hate your language and hostility toward your fellow men. >:)
Y'shua was dependent because He was manifested in the flesh, 100% man yet 100% God, He did the will of the Father, the Bible tells the truth of Y'shua, Take a look at John chapter 1, It's also a historical fact that Jesus was crucified, The Koran is mistaken of the devised suffering of Messiah, Humility is part of Christianity, The Koran is contradictory, tellin you lies that ought to be brought to light
@oscarmarin1995 How can something be 100% one thing and 100% another thing? Anything regarding religion or religious writings CANNOT be a fact, because all religions based on Faith. Existence or crucifixion of Jesus cannot be proved or disproved, nor his resurrection. Bible was written centuries later by MEN who didn't even live during the time when supposedly Jesus existed. So we can either choose to believe or not - that IS the ONLY FACT.
@Chudakov77 Well Mary was human and God is God. So, God was manifested in the flesh, 100% man, 100% God. Not 50/50
Just because religion takes faith doesn't mean there's no evidence. Most historical scholars agree that Christ existed and was crucified. There's plenty of sources outside the Bible that says so. The Koran was written 500+ years after. Why would anyone believe something that contradicts evidence?
I think I trust the Apostles. Their writings are only confirmed w/ evidence
@oscarmarin1995 There are official historical sources outside the bible that claim Jesus was real, that he was crucified AND resurrected? If you claim something like this you better back it up with sources. There is not even ONE real historian or scholar in Ancient Rome or Egypt who recorded anything about Jesus. And these guys were meticulous about writing things down. We have their records of taxes collected and how much rain fell each crop season. Yet NOTHING about Jesus.
@Chudakov77 There aren't outside sources that are evidence for the Resurrection. However that's a different topic, but I can present you reason to believe it really happened.
Here are sources of the Crucifixion: Tacitus, Talmud, Josephus, Thallus, Lucian, Pliny the Younger. I think that's enough evidence that suggests Jesus existed and was crucified. Another reason to believe the Bible is the accuracy of the gospels and other books. No contradictions at all.
@oscarmarin1995 Thought so. All these people you named wrote years after the supposed events happened. Some wrote more than 100 years afterwards. Thallus maybe the closest to the events, but still decades passed. Another thing he wasn't present at the actual event, so his writing is nothing but speculation and hearsay and cannot be considered a source. Its like if I was writing about events I haven't witnessed. What I asked you for was official historical records. There are none
@Chudakov77 In ancient history, two independent sources for an event are often quite evidential. This is because there weren't that many writers and even some major events get very little coverage. Besides, we have the Gospel accounts and they count, too. In total, this amounts to quite a few sources for the darkness. Cornelius Tactius was a Roman historian. He has been referred to as the "greatest historian" of ancient Rome, how would he be wrong? How is the Talmud & Josephus wrong?
@Chudakov77 How can they all be wrong about the Crucifixion? I think they're all pretty accurate. Why would they all write about a mere legend? Africanus, who cites Thallus on other matters as well, is exercised to expose as erroneous Thallus’ explaining the darkness as due to a solar eclipse. He points out that such an explanation is unreasonable because Passover always occurs at the time of the full moon, and the full moon cannot come between the earth and the sun.
@oscarmarin1995 My problem is not really with Crucifixion, its with what happened after. How HONEST were the people who told tales of all the other events? Can we trust them? Did they have an agenda to make things up to get more followers? Did they added things and painted them more colorful than they really were? I am sure some of them believed very deeply into this whole idea of this person Jesus dying and resurrecting. But did it really happen the way they say it did?
@oscarmarin1995 My problem is with the fact that Christianity has been pushed down everyone's throat with vicious ferocity. I am Russian, we used to have our own faith and our own Slavic Gods. Just as all other Pre-Christian cultures. Gods whom were born and forged together with my people as part of OUR culture - given to us by the CREATOR. They watched over us for thousands of years. Yet a mere thousand years ago Greeks brought Christianity to Rus' and introduced it to us.
@oscarmarin1995 Because my forefathers were trusting folk and believed in freedom of any kind of worship. You were free to worship all manner of Gods. Light and Dark ones. People actually had a choice and free will to follow any path they wished. My ancestors allowed Christianity to stay. Huge mistake. At first Christianity was meek and timid but as it grew stronger and stronger eating its way into peoples minds, it became more and more aggressive.
@oscarmarin1995 Finally as it gained a lot of control it started an open war against our Gods and their Temples. They forbid free worship of our Gods. Christianity was burning our holy places, destroying temples and slaughtering people who didnt want to convert. A lot of people died because of this. It was literally a civil war. The rest were subjugated and forcefully converted. They destroyed ALL pre-Christian historical documents and completely erased all our history.
@oscarmarin1995 According to old Slavic calendar our summer count should be around 7518. Instead its a year 2012. I shudder at the thought that 5500 years of our history just GONE, because few treacherous bastards sold and betrayed the faith of their Forefathers and accepted an alien faith that has nothing to do with our culture with a Jewish god Yahweh who poses in the Bible as the CREATOR and hates all non-Jews with great passion.
@oscarmarin1995 As for Jesus himself. I dont know who he was or what he was. Some things that he says seemed true and honest without any malice or ill intent, but there are also dark things which no matter what ANYONE says or tries to explain them to me, or tell me that they dont really mean what they say and that they mean absolutely something else. I dont care about any of that mind fucking nonsense.
@oscarmarin1995 If GREAT, ULTIMATE GOD is unable to formulate his thoughts and ideas so that mere mortals are able to understand what exactly he means - he is not a GOD. All this: "It really doesnt mean what it says'' or ''Only ones with great Faith can really understand what it means'' - to me its nothing but bunch of BS and indoctrination crap. If it doesn't mean what it says then rewrite your stupid books so its says what it really means.
@oscarmarin1995 Going back to Jesus and his teachings ...when I read things like - Matthew 10:34-39. This is definitely something I will NEVER follow. A family is basis for existence it is a holy thing which from dawn of time was cherished and protected. People give their lives to protect their loved ones. And Jesus wants me to forsake that? NO WAY in HELL, it will freeze over first.
@Chudakov77 I'm sorry to hear that Christianity was forceful against your native culture... Christianity is supposed to be about mercy, hope, truth and love. And I believe people should have freedom in whatever belief they have as long as it doesn't harm anyone else.
Matthew 10:34-39 isn't about forsaking family. It's about bringing truth and getting rid of traditions and exposing the problems of the family so it might take those problems out and grow spiritually.
@Chudakov77 It's also about loving God more than family. I love God more than family, though I still unconditionally love my family.
Christ is the same yesterday, today and for ever.
Friend, you can find the answers to your questions in the Bible and in theology. Those are good questions and I'll look to see if I can get answers.
Everyone makes mistakes (sins)... I know Christians have screwed up A LOT in history. And I am sorry for that.But I don't let bad people speak for mybelief
@oscarmarin1995 I dont know what made Jesus say such things sometimes, or what he felt or thought. Where there two or more Christ who all preached different things? Did they merge them all together? Or they just added these things to discredit him? Or he really wanted to just wrestle control away from Old Testament Priests and start his own Church and have power instead of them? I don't know, nor do I care. We will NEVER know that.
@oscarmarin1995 I just know one thing. I rather worship Gods of my forefathers than a man of another culture and nationality? Especially of people who's behavior wasn't really good and honest throughout the history. Why should I worship someone else's God who states that all other nations and kingdoms will be in the servitude of HIS "Chosen People" if they follow his WILL? Why should I consider their culture, history, myths and legends divine? They have nothing to do with me.
@oscarmarin1995 Anyways thats is all I wanted to say I guess. Thats my take on why I cant except Christianity. On deeper level I just feel this dark side to Christianity as if I was staring at some Trojan Horse in ways. I can sense some sort of danger from it like blackness which tries to envelop peoples minds, to block them from the true understanding of their place and themselves. Its kinda hard to explain. I just know its like a trap wrapped in half truths as bait.
@Chudakov77 You know what man... I hope you don't let bad people give you a view on Christianity... You should study it to find out yourself what it's about. You don't have to, I'm just suggesting, but anyways yeah glad you found your worldview friend. :)
@oscarmarin1995 "In ancient history, two independent sources for an event are often quite evidential." - Well I would agree with this statement if I haven't witnessed how easily historical events are being manipulated and changed. You dont even have to go as far as 2000 years. It would be enough to just go back 60 years to see history is being twisted. If we have trouble sorting out events which happen 60 years ago, how can we be sure of what really occurred 2000 years back?
@oscarmarin1995 As for Darkness and if it was miraculous or not. We cant really be sure because we do not have accurate dates of Jesus`s birth or death. All the dates are rough estimations and guesswork. There is absolutely no solid evidence when it all happened. If they say that there was an eclipse close to event, than it must be that. Was it miraculous eclipse or a regular one? No one knows, nor no one ever will. If Gods wanted us to see miracles we would see them.
@oscarmarin1995 Look, I dont wanna really shake your Faith or anything its not my intent. I just think that this story was heavily edited and modified to sound more awesome than it really was. After all Jesus was voted by mere men if he should be considered a God or not at the the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD. I think it was 298 to 2 in favor that Jesus is a Son of God. Thats in itself not very convincing in my opinion. Men deciding if someone God or not? Please. : )
@oscarmarin1995 "Well, the men decided based on scripture... I don't know. I've having doubts about the whole thing though" <--- What exactly do you have doubts about? The religion itself or the miracles? Please elaborate if you can.
@oscarmarin1995 As for do I think its ALL a Myth? It could be 50/50 chance. I think SOMETHING did happen. A man called Ieyasu started spreading new ideology and got taken out by priests who advocated old ideology, thus this new man with his radical new teaching was a danger to them - they had him crucified. The followers of this man decided to make a martyr out of him so they stole his body and spread tales of his miraculous resurrection. Thats what I think really happened.
@oscarmarin1995 I am not an atheist. I believe in Creator, for our Universe and ourselves are evidence of this Creation. But all the other things and concepts are unnecessary and pointless. If God really wanted to send us signs or show us miracles he would have done so a long time ago. Or sent another Avatar of his to correct our path if we are on the wrong one. Or simply destroyed us and remade the world as he saw fit. It is ALL knowing ALL powerful God after all no?
@oscarmarin But he doesn't. So either he is busy, or simply doesn't like to interfere in human affairs. Face it there hasn't been any magic miracles in our world for a long time if not forever. I consider more miraculous forces of nature and the Universe than such things as Jesus or Virgin birth which cant be even checked or tested 100%. I have a feeling Christians will be waiting for second coming for a VERY VERY long time. But thats just my opinion about it. Who knows.
@oscarmarin1995 ''So you must be deist?'' Heh, you know its pretty interesting. I never heard of this word nor knew its meaning, so I had to look it up actually. I was very surprised because amazingly enough it almost fits perfectly with how I view the Concept of God and the Universe. I didn't even know such definition existed. I guess you learn new things all the time. I guess ya you can say I am Deist. :)
Jesus died on the cross to pay for our sins. Thats why the cross is seen as a good thing and why the death of Jesus is seen as a good thing. He was the "sacrificial, spotless lamb" of God. Then he rose from the dead that we would be also raised with him too when we put our faith in him.
You muddy the water. All you are doing is trying to say that believing the Jesus is a Religion. It is not. Muslims say they believe Jesus was a Prophet, and therefore can not lie.
He said the Temple in Jerusalem would be torn down. And it happened.
He also said: "I and My Father are One and the same." and they are.
God the Father. God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. One God, One Savior, One Faith.
But he also said you can not even begin to Know this Unless You Are Born Again.!!
Muslims must believe in the revelation given to Jesus as prescribed above. Sura 5:75 is clear that Jesus' primary assignment was to be a messenger that allah had sent down the Torah of moses and the gospel of Jesus ---sura 3:3.
Here is where your problem lies...How can a muslim confirm the message of Christ if the Old Testament and New Testament are corrupt? Let's look at sura 2:136 "Say ye: we believe in allah and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to all Prophets from their Lord..."
Surah 18:89-98 says Alexander the Great was a devout Muslim and lived to a ripe old age.
Historical records show that Alexander the Great died young at 33 years of age. He believed he was divine and forced others to recognize him as such. In India on the Hyphasis River Alexander erected twelve altars to twelve Olympian gods.
In Sura 3:42, 45 SEVERAL angels appear to Mary in the annunciation of the birth of Jesus.
How many angels were talking to Mary? In Sura 19:17-21 only ONE angel appears to the virgin Mary. In Sura 22:47 and 32:5 Allah's day is equal to 1,000 human years.Allah's day is equal to how many human years? In Sura 70:4, Allah's day is equal to 50,000 human years.
While it is true that reason is a gift from God, the heart of man is deceitful. Arguing the validity of your view of God based on reason is the position of humanists. Taking a subsequent literary work and using it to supersede a previous work with no historical information to back it up is not reasonable. Not to mention that the hadith is filled with stories that defy reason; as is the Qua'ran, the Bible and every other religious work. If it's all so reasonable, there is no need for faith.
Jesus has two natures. Jesus was not denying that He was God. He was merely acknowledging the fact that He was also a man. Jesus is both God and man. As a man, he was in a lesser position than the Father. He had added to Himself human nature (Col. 2:9). He became a man to die for people.
No follower of God should wear a cross.
2:32 "no one used to worship Jesus" read Matthew 8:2; Luke 24:52; Hebrews 1:6;
@Mcstroke57 Do you honestly realise what your saying? God is man as well as being God? that is the biggest contradiction ever made. How can the Creator who is immortal be immortal and mortal at the same time, how can the Creator who is unlike anyother being be unique as welll as being one human amongst 6 billion? How can the Creator who is independant of all needs, be independant aswell as being dependant upon food, water etc for survival. Seriously re-evalute your comment.
@Ayan120 maybe he could be a man as well to prove his love for his creation and show the only path to him. To assume that God can't do what he wants.. even become a man is worth re-evaluation.
@Ayan120 The answer to the whole concept between god being jesus (a man) and the holy spirit, to me, lies in faith, and intangible inner guidance. When one question religon, he himself is still in the beginning steps of bein apart of any religon, or he is a non-believer. I do not question and ask I understand believe and accept god can and is all he wishes to be. And that he came down in human form. Honestly if he came down as god floating instead of walking, and all holy-looking, in this day
@BrowardCountyBoy and age do you believe us men would believe that god came down in a godly form anyway. It really doesnt matter which way he came down. Us humans can not answer "why did he come down as a human" based on our knowledge. or opinion. To ask why god came down as human instead of a god is a total opinion, deriving from disbelief. Faith does not involve opinion but rather the inner belief of what is.
@BrowardCountyBoy I think god may have known that whether he came down as a god or human, that in 2000 years later (today) we would still question something that happened so long ago. God can do anything. He could end the world, he could have brainwashed us into believing only one religon like some sort of spiritual soldier. He wants us to explore, have the choice and understand all the fruits here on earth and in the end be with him.
@BrowardCountyBoy But he rather us come to him and earn our way into heaven. Tell me, in a relationship between man and woman, what two people want the other to HAVE to be with them? No one does, everyone wants to be with someone that wants to be with them.
Please understand that all denominations like the Roman Catholic church, Protestantism, Pietism, Evangelicalism, Pentecostalism and so many other...(approximately 38,000) have nothing to do with Jesus.
The Almighty God of Israel was, is, and forever shall be, one. There was no God formed before him, neither shall there be after him (Isaiah 44:8). He is the only saviour (Isaiah 43:11). He created heaven and earth by himself (Isaiah 44:24, Genesis 1:1, John 1:1-3, 10-14). He has sworn that every knee shall bow to him (Isaiah 45:23, Philippians 2:10), and he will not give his glory to another (Isaiah 42:8, 48:11).
If your mother died because she allowed it, in order for you aka her son to live, even if she died by being butchered with an axe. A confident loving man would wear an ae because of the tie he has with this weapon. It makes perfect sense why I as a christian would wear the cross. Its a homage and understanding that I love the cross.
@BrowardCountyBoy But how can that please you? For example, say someone I loved died on a deathbed, that doesn't meean I'm gonna wear a deathbed around my head in respect to him. That would only put someone through further anguish, at the mere remembrance. It doesn't make logical sense.
@Ayan120 well, ill state this fact, it is possible to embrace and accept the death for what it is, and move one, while still loving the person who past just as much as when they were alive. but its also possible to be depressed and stuck because of it. Doesnt it depend on a certain amount of spiritual maturity. Maybe maturity in general? I understand everyone accepts and deals with things differently. But for me a christian, u dont believe its possible for me to accept and love the cross?
i wanted to NOT comment, buti think theres a reater purpose in saying my opinion so that others may see it, and not follow the ideas i nthis video. The man here is very abundant in wisdom and knowledge. but is not mature enough in faith. Its very evident in your manners. and the way you criticize. the man in this video who shows so much adversity for others and jesus, i dont believe he could possibly know the truth. For example he doesnt even follow love and acceptance
Christianity asks that you follow the standards which means to practice them onto others and demonstrate the right way.Telling the world why another religon is wrong is only going to make believers out of the uninformed. and those who settle for another wordly mans opinions. We have to be accepting and loving. I work with people of other faiths and can tell in the manner they feel and look that they lack acceptance of others, confidence, and mercy- jesus traits
@BrowardCountyBoy i will alwys rise above because i know the truth. and i feel jesus' love. I LOVE JESUS for the record! and i love man too.. and i wil lalwyas try to demonstrate his ways because i am a follower of his love and ways. BTW Jesus allowed himself to die to pay for our sins. It is out of homage that I, as a christian, would wear something so blunt and potent around my neck. To others the cross is a symbol to be scared of, but to me it is power.
its so infuriating how many times we have to say as a christian that jesus is not god he is the son of god half man half a god thats why he speaks to me because he shows us that we all get it wrong we all make mistakes in our lives sometimes we commit unforgivable crimes but he will forgive us because he sees our faults as humans he sees our faults as nature but humans can change for the better like nature changes for the better he showed me that the dark turns into dawn and bad can turn good.
@Majstar7 Great video man! :) I am a christian and I just want to say that it's a really noble thing to search other faiths, enhancing your own. But in the bible there are chapters that say that Jesus was the son of God, one being Matthew 16:13 - 20 where Jesus himself said he was the Son of God, not just a prophet like Elijah. But I would love to chat more on it as we have a lot of truth between us and a lot of similarities in our faith that is often masked by conflict, thanks again mate!!!
YOUR 'BROTHER LEBO2196' BLOCKS ALL CHRISTIANS AND REMOVES COMMENTS THAT PROVE JESUS IS GOD! IF HE WAS SO CONFIDENT IN WHAT HE SAYS IN HIS VIDEO, HE WILL NOT BEHAVE IN SUCH DEFENSIVE MANNER AND WILL GIVE CHANCE TO CHRISTIANS TO TAKE PART IN A HEALTHY DEBATE!! FUNNY ENOUGH HE DOES NOT REMOVECOMMENTS INCLUDING 'FILTHY, CUSSING AND DISGUSTING WORDS' - GOES TO SHOW WHO THIS GUY IS IN REALITY. WHY DO MUSLIMS CHICKEN OUT WHEN FACED WITH TRUTH?
@JESUSmyLifemySaviour Dude, you can't prove Jesus is God when Jesus by his physical self was a man, your OWN bible states that God is not a man (Numbers 23:19).You make statues of Jesus as a man, claim he is God, when your own scripture contradicts you. Seriously, research your own religion, rather than following the Church. See, The Church and The Bible teach completely OPPOSING things, The Bible (old testament) teaches submission to God whereas the Church teaches total opposite.
wow..can u stop this racism ok! u have no rights to condone ppls believe.Why u ppl got nothing better to do?? or just an attention seeker??. I believe in Jesus n he is my God.Who the hell are you to stop me.No matter u cite the whole bible or Quran trying to prove that he is not God but we all know the truth n U cant stop us from beveling that. So respects ppl beliefs cause God gave us the choice to choose n stop all this bullshit because you are just making a religion stir among us.
@smanahassan Let's consider broken telephone. The Original Old Testament was written in Hebrew, where as the New Testament was originally written in Greek (if I'm not mistaken) and was translated many times to accommodate the fact that our religion is culturally diverse. For many years the Bible and its contents were shared orally,then were copied by hand. It's inevitable that there are some discrepancies. Despite the MINOR differences, the stories, the morals, the teachings, the TRUTH remains.
@TheHeineken1990 Dont condem all religions without studying them in depthly, then with sufficent prove you'll come to find that the Qu'ran is the only book in the history of time which has stayed intact, flawless and without error for 14000 years. Dont simply elimante all religions because you see a few religous people in error, it just makes you seem like a ignorant person.
@TheHeineken1990 But you see.....you'll never be able to.Sure you can try, but I can GUARANTEE 100% you'll never succeed. Why? Because even the most eloquent, most knowledable arabs in the Prophet's (pbuh) time were not able to, and I'm most certain you cant either.
Allah taught Adam all the names of the plants and animals, which must have taken a while since there are 1.7 million species that are known today, with probably another 10 million or so that are yet to be discovered. And this only includes those that are alive today. If extinct species are included (~99%), then Allah must have taught Adam a billion or so names. 2:31
And while 1+1+1 would give u 3, the trinity is better understood mathematically via the analogy in multiplication that says 1 x1x1=1. Here you have three distinctions yet equalling 1 in another respect. U can't defeat a position by using logical fallacies in this case setting up strawmen/false representations+distortions of a view+knocking those down thinking u have even commented on what the real view really is. If the Muslim really cared about being rational they wouldn't do this+nor b Muslim.
Shows the same false assumptions Mohamed had of christianity..if he didn't even properly understand the Bible or its message why would anyone believe anything else he had to say? God wasn't killed on the cross, Jesus had two different natures, 1 human 1 divine. Jesus died via His human nature not divine. And the trinity doesn't teach 3 gods but 1 God revealed in three persons, or 3 persons that share the same 1 divine nature.
Jesus replied, "IF ANYONE LOVES ME, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. John 14:23
You cannot say you love Jesus and practice Islam because Jesus is diametrically apposed to it's false teachings. Your love for Jesus is disingenuous because you have made for yourself a version of Jesus that is false and incompatible to the Gospel.
One major difference between Islam and the teachings of Jesus is the assurance of salvation.
"Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.)" The Quran 191-2.
Jesus said in John 10:10, "The thief comes only to steal and KILL and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full."
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him." John 3:36
Allah says that you must keep fighting until there is no more persecution and everyone on earth is a Muslim. Then you can stop KILLING people. But if there are any wrong-doers around after you've KILLED off all the disbelievers, persecutors and aggressors, then you'll have to KILL them too. The Quran 2:193
In Matthew 5:43,44 Jesus said, "You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you."
No peace, like on a farm - no solice, euros caught up like predicted...i actually wanna be a farm hand again. i like muslim, it translates over in the bible i am familure with, it gives me a clearer sharper view everyday! things seem to get clearer and less "mystical" i just hope to alwase hit the subject matter, n never miss.it's not good to pray to same god with so many interpetations. so war happens,butti dont have to like it! all thease people r good, caught up and blined in a power struggle
Worship the one that created you, not the one that was created. Jesus worshipped and prayed to God, he submitted his will to God as did all the Prophets Peace be upon them all. This is arabic is called a Muslim.
As Muslims we know that to judge a religion one must approach it's source of guidance, in the case of christianity, judaism & Islam that is the divine scriptures. As a Muslim when we want to know id something is true according to Christian scripture we would pick up a bible, strangely enough there are that many stories such as the whole 'moon god' story that have been invented yet with no source in Islamic scripture. Stop telling stories and go and read who Jesus was himself.
And those who disbelieve say to those who believe, "Follow our way, and we will carry your sins." But they will not carry anything of their sins. Indeed, they are liars."
"But they will surely carry their [own] burdens and [other] burdens along with their burdens, and they will surely be questioned on the Day of Resurrection about what they used to invent."
he has to have unlimited potential in creating every fabric of matter in the entirety of the universe and he also cannot be in compliance with the laws of physics [gravity], This means that being is out of the universe and has created it for one purpose, so how can Christians believe he was a man, wouldn't that mean he was dependant as he had to breathe oxygen, as well as eat food, as well as go sleep, as well as walk on the ground, as well as drink water? These are characteristics of man
For there to be the universe there must be something to create it, athiests believe there is a repeat button that makes the universe stretch and then shrink but they forget there has to be someone to also press the repeat button.
The problem with Islam is that you focus on a creator, whereas Christianity, we acknowledge HIM as the creator, but also take HIM as our Father. Islamic teachings is that the creator would have us all act as loyal and obedient slaves... With Christianity, since we are seen as Children of God... then we may partake in the inheritance. How many slaves have inherited their master's kingdom? Answer... NONE... But as Children of GOD (Father/Son/HolySpirit), we may partake in the inheritance.
@MrBbqweed yeh we are all gods children but what you inherit from god would be in the afterlife due to you thanking god for giving you the chance to repent and if you thank him every day so that you do not forget him then you will be able to inherit the eternal time in heaven you don't need to inherit anything in this world.
25 “Though I have been speaking figuratively, a time is coming when I will no longer use this kind of language but will tell you plainly about MY Father.
Please do not misquote and take things out of context. Jesus died because we cannot redeem ourselves by being good or following rules. We are all sinful so He died in OUR place. That's not weakness that is LOVE.
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@valenvid No, you are right, we believe in his miraculous ascension also. However we believe that he was raised up by God without having died like the Christains say he did. Jesus was protected by God. There is no way God would have let him die in that manner being that God and Jesus both knew the implacations of dying on a peice of would or hanged on a tree. The Jews knew that if they killed Jesus then Jesus could not be the Messiah. That's why God saved him from this kind of death.
@IsaHamzaBilal.. So the idea of him being the sacrificial lamb to replace sacrifices of blood and all he has said like I lay may life down and raise it up in three days... etc... you are saying you dont believe?
@valenvid No, there is absolutely no need for Christ to be Crucified. Meaning, that God is all-Merciful. That was not Jesus' mission to come here to die. All the prophets taught repentance. To turn back to God when you sin. People just think that God needed to send a person to die for us, why? Nothing you or I do will diminish the Glory, Benevolence, or Majesty of God. We cannot increase His dominion nor can we decrease it. He does NOT need us, we need him.
@valenvid He allows us to live by His own Will. He forgives who He Wills with or without my or your permission. If We turn away from Him, He will replace us with people who won't turn away. We are meerly lowly people. The creation cannot be equal to the Creator. Nothing in this world can compare to Him in His Knowledge or Glory. Who can complete with God? Jesus? Not a chance, and Jesus would be the first to say he cannot.
@123beserious Definitly... I do NOT disagree with you. The people took his message and changed it. Therefore his message was no longer authentic. The church is responsible for do that. However, it would not be in the nature of Jesus to say that he is the Son, or that he is God, or that he had any kind of divine qualities. All Jesus did was exactly what God told him to do. Muslims have no problem with that. We only have a problem when men say that a human had God-like qualities. Not Jesus!
@123beserious My friend, I'm with you on this. I'm not taking anything out of context. I mean exactly what you said, I just said it in different words. People mislead people not Jesus.
@valenvid Remember, Jesus said: "I can of my own self do NOTHING!" But the Chrsitians took it as: "There is nothing Jesus can't do." This is a HUGE misconception of Jesus. Jesus, on the day of Judgement will be shaking in his boots hoping for God to shower him with mercy. Lets get real, friends. Lead not by emotion, but lets lead by truth and reason!
Gospel of John 5:28-30 28 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29 and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned. 30 By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.
I couldn't fit it in but start reading at verse 24 and it will make even more sense.
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“The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque.” Quran 9:28
“Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies.” Quran 22:19
“Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them.” Quran 47:4
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“Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood.” Quran 9:123
“When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them.” Quran 9:5
“Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable.” Quran 3:85
“The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them.” Quran 9:30
“Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam” Quran 5:33
AvangingAngel 1 day ago
salaam
There are 114 Surah in the Quran that Muslims are required to follow.
Sutra 5:48 Muslims must not accept any constitution or set of laws other than the Quran.
Sutra 5:51, 5:54, and 5:60 label Jews and Christians as "pigs and monkeys."
Sutra 9:5, 9:3, and 9:29 of the Quran, among others, command Muslims to kill non-believers.
“Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them.” Quran 2:191
AvangingAngel 1 day ago
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etdownfall1 1 day ago
Christianity is NOT a religion we do not pray to idols and he said "OUR FATHER" because God is he's father and the father of the earth so he can say that, we do not worship any idols Muslims pray facing mecca y? the devil can use any 1so if u say that does bad things done by so called Christians is what we do so y cant we say u bombing and killing is what u do? salvation is PERSONAL please do NOT argue my Faith and we wouldn't argue yours understand d bible b4 u start quoting it Thank you
MsTiiiina 6 days ago
There are a ton of false statements in here. He says a God died and cant be created. Jesus is the one who died. Jesus is the son of God but since they are side by side in heaven, technically they are the same. God spoke through Jesus in the New Testament. The Cross isnt a symbol of death. Its a symbol of life and what Jesus did for us. And our religion doesnt tell us to kill others who dont believe. I am just saying. This whole video is a misunderstanding of what Christianity is.
gbosler42 1 week ago
No Offense But If u say U Love Jesus More Than Christians & Most Muslims I Know Tell Me They Hate Jews How Can u You Love Jesus When He Is a Jew??
xxPCPlumxx50 3 weeks ago
@xxPCPlumxx50 Being a muslim myself, I don't hate jews. I don't know why any group religious, racial, ethnic, etc. would ever hate another group purely for being so. I don't know any other muslims who hate jews. Not even sure where you got this idea...
Cacophony997 2 weeks ago
@xxPCPlumxx50 No jesus isnt (pbuh) HE IS A MUSLIM!!!!!!!!!!
muslimah134 6 days ago
Also this proves the theory that "allah" is not God. Just saying. Now all of you fight over what I just said :P
TVLandon 3 weeks ago
We do not wear the cross vaguely. We don't wear it for fun and not for bad intension. We wear it in remembrance of the sacrifice God made for us. He wasn't murdered, he was executed. He was killed but never muted. He resurrected and then protected. He died so we didn't have to kill. Kill life for forgiveness of our sin. He did it protect us from the world, that we currently live in.
TVLandon 3 weeks ago
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May ALLAH(swt) bless u.. and guide them.. ameen ya rab!!!
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ulived1969 1 month ago
As a Christian I believe in one God the Father! and one lord...Jesus 1 Cor 8-6. Also as Christians we are suppsed to worship God alone! and do this according to, and in the name of Jesus
smokeybirdman 1 month ago
I feel like everyone truly needs to learn their history! This is just proof that people have taken the word and manipulated it and turned into what they want to believe what they want. It proves they are clueless to what Jesus really was and really said. This shows true complete ignorance!
cavigtorres 1 month ago
@cavigtorres Lol.Common Kid as I can see you sent this message 2 days ago which means your living in the present, with your comment you have just contradicted yourself for the"word"is different stories by mankind you were not there in the past to witness any of this, so how are you so different from us who are apparently"clueless"to what Jesus really said?I see your comment no more arrogant than this videos.Come on now.. use critical thinking and stop piggy backing on the scriptures
55shakiel 1 month ago
Is somebody taking the trash out in the background??
johoyouknow 1 month ago
i dont hate religion and thats haram but i dont think he means that he dosnt like his religion beacuse there is Just one God allah o akbar ! <3
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DeToL7 1 month ago
you say JESUS say Our Father, not father ?
Please read from "Holy Bible" :
"In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight." St.Luke 10
Clearly is written that JESUS said "O Father" !!!!
NeooNo1 1 month ago
Time to travel back to Mt.Athos
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milionis 1 month ago
The cross is more of a memory , of how he died for our sins. Its not what you Muslims think, even the bible says jesus is the son of god with godly power, you guys just want people to see islam as a a religion of being right all the time. But its islamist who commit sucide and spread murder. You guys might call me a ricest but im doing the this guy as this guy in the vid doing doing.
pavle634 1 month ago
Love how your Old Testament and Gospel (Injeel) reference verses are taken out of context - You say Jesus didn't claim to be God and didn't want to be worshipped so why in John 14:6 does he say 'I am the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE. NO-ONE comes to the Father except through ME'. ?? The problem with Islam, is that it's a DO religion - you don't know you are saved - you only hope you've done enough to get in when you die which sadly will never be enough without JESUS.
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SpeakingWisdom 1 month ago
This is like a Muslim rap about Jesus or something. o_O
Chudakov77 1 month ago
I really enjoyed this video. Even though I think the interpretation of why Christians wear the cross is a bit off, everything else in this was a GREAT explanation of Muslim beliefs regarding Jesus! Awesome! I'm sure a lot of Christians will be surprised.
RustyHarpsichord 1 month ago
Your religion bring doom to the world.
kiler00 1 month ago
@kiler00 Why would you say that?
WFSW32 1 month ago
I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALLAHUAKBAR!!!!!
TheAynushka 1 month ago
Hey i just wanted to let you know that you only have aprox 17,000 views and the guy you're responding to has about 17,000,000
JustinLoveComedy 1 month ago
This man is a fucking retarded mother fucker... go fuck yourself you should burn in hell
johnthemanish 1 month ago
@johnthemanish Why is this man a retarded mother fucker?..I dont get it. He politely gave his views on things in the Universe in a rhyme. Why are you so angry about it? Baby Jesus would hate your language and hostility toward your fellow men. >:)
Chudakov77 1 month ago
@johnthemanish Why would you say that?
WFSW32 1 month ago
Y'shua was dependent because He was manifested in the flesh, 100% man yet 100% God, He did the will of the Father, the Bible tells the truth of Y'shua, Take a look at John chapter 1, It's also a historical fact that Jesus was crucified, The Koran is mistaken of the devised suffering of Messiah, Humility is part of Christianity, The Koran is contradictory, tellin you lies that ought to be brought to light
oscarmarin1995 1 month ago
@oscarmarin1995 How can something be 100% one thing and 100% another thing? Anything regarding religion or religious writings CANNOT be a fact, because all religions based on Faith. Existence or crucifixion of Jesus cannot be proved or disproved, nor his resurrection. Bible was written centuries later by MEN who didn't even live during the time when supposedly Jesus existed. So we can either choose to believe or not - that IS the ONLY FACT.
Chudakov77 1 month ago
@Chudakov77 Well Mary was human and God is God. So, God was manifested in the flesh, 100% man, 100% God. Not 50/50
Just because religion takes faith doesn't mean there's no evidence. Most historical scholars agree that Christ existed and was crucified. There's plenty of sources outside the Bible that says so. The Koran was written 500+ years after. Why would anyone believe something that contradicts evidence?
I think I trust the Apostles. Their writings are only confirmed w/ evidence
oscarmarin1995 1 month ago
@oscarmarin1995 There are official historical sources outside the bible that claim Jesus was real, that he was crucified AND resurrected? If you claim something like this you better back it up with sources. There is not even ONE real historian or scholar in Ancient Rome or Egypt who recorded anything about Jesus. And these guys were meticulous about writing things down. We have their records of taxes collected and how much rain fell each crop season. Yet NOTHING about Jesus.
Chudakov77 1 month ago
@Chudakov77 There aren't outside sources that are evidence for the Resurrection. However that's a different topic, but I can present you reason to believe it really happened.
Here are sources of the Crucifixion: Tacitus, Talmud, Josephus, Thallus, Lucian, Pliny the Younger. I think that's enough evidence that suggests Jesus existed and was crucified. Another reason to believe the Bible is the accuracy of the gospels and other books. No contradictions at all.
oscarmarin1995 1 month ago
@oscarmarin1995 Thought so. All these people you named wrote years after the supposed events happened. Some wrote more than 100 years afterwards. Thallus maybe the closest to the events, but still decades passed. Another thing he wasn't present at the actual event, so his writing is nothing but speculation and hearsay and cannot be considered a source. Its like if I was writing about events I haven't witnessed. What I asked you for was official historical records. There are none
Chudakov77 1 month ago
@Chudakov77 In ancient history, two independent sources for an event are often quite evidential. This is because there weren't that many writers and even some major events get very little coverage. Besides, we have the Gospel accounts and they count, too. In total, this amounts to quite a few sources for the darkness. Cornelius Tactius was a Roman historian. He has been referred to as the "greatest historian" of ancient Rome, how would he be wrong? How is the Talmud & Josephus wrong?
oscarmarin1995 1 month ago
@Chudakov77 How can they all be wrong about the Crucifixion? I think they're all pretty accurate. Why would they all write about a mere legend? Africanus, who cites Thallus on other matters as well, is exercised to expose as erroneous Thallus’ explaining the darkness as due to a solar eclipse. He points out that such an explanation is unreasonable because Passover always occurs at the time of the full moon, and the full moon cannot come between the earth and the sun.
oscarmarin1995 1 month ago
@oscarmarin1995 My problem is not really with Crucifixion, its with what happened after. How HONEST were the people who told tales of all the other events? Can we trust them? Did they have an agenda to make things up to get more followers? Did they added things and painted them more colorful than they really were? I am sure some of them believed very deeply into this whole idea of this person Jesus dying and resurrecting. But did it really happen the way they say it did?
Chudakov77 1 month ago
@Chudakov77 So your problem is just with the Resurrection?
oscarmarin1995 1 month ago
@oscarmarin1995 My problem is with the fact that Christianity has been pushed down everyone's throat with vicious ferocity. I am Russian, we used to have our own faith and our own Slavic Gods. Just as all other Pre-Christian cultures. Gods whom were born and forged together with my people as part of OUR culture - given to us by the CREATOR. They watched over us for thousands of years. Yet a mere thousand years ago Greeks brought Christianity to Rus' and introduced it to us.
Chudakov77 1 month ago
@oscarmarin1995 Because my forefathers were trusting folk and believed in freedom of any kind of worship. You were free to worship all manner of Gods. Light and Dark ones. People actually had a choice and free will to follow any path they wished. My ancestors allowed Christianity to stay. Huge mistake. At first Christianity was meek and timid but as it grew stronger and stronger eating its way into peoples minds, it became more and more aggressive.
Chudakov77 1 month ago
@oscarmarin1995 Finally as it gained a lot of control it started an open war against our Gods and their Temples. They forbid free worship of our Gods. Christianity was burning our holy places, destroying temples and slaughtering people who didnt want to convert. A lot of people died because of this. It was literally a civil war. The rest were subjugated and forcefully converted. They destroyed ALL pre-Christian historical documents and completely erased all our history.
Chudakov77 1 month ago
@oscarmarin1995 According to old Slavic calendar our summer count should be around 7518. Instead its a year 2012. I shudder at the thought that 5500 years of our history just GONE, because few treacherous bastards sold and betrayed the faith of their Forefathers and accepted an alien faith that has nothing to do with our culture with a Jewish god Yahweh who poses in the Bible as the CREATOR and hates all non-Jews with great passion.
Chudakov77 1 month ago
@oscarmarin1995 As for Jesus himself. I dont know who he was or what he was. Some things that he says seemed true and honest without any malice or ill intent, but there are also dark things which no matter what ANYONE says or tries to explain them to me, or tell me that they dont really mean what they say and that they mean absolutely something else. I dont care about any of that mind fucking nonsense.
Chudakov77 1 month ago
@oscarmarin1995 If GREAT, ULTIMATE GOD is unable to formulate his thoughts and ideas so that mere mortals are able to understand what exactly he means - he is not a GOD. All this: "It really doesnt mean what it says'' or ''Only ones with great Faith can really understand what it means'' - to me its nothing but bunch of BS and indoctrination crap. If it doesn't mean what it says then rewrite your stupid books so its says what it really means.
Chudakov77 1 month ago
@oscarmarin1995 Going back to Jesus and his teachings ...when I read things like - Matthew 10:34-39. This is definitely something I will NEVER follow. A family is basis for existence it is a holy thing which from dawn of time was cherished and protected. People give their lives to protect their loved ones. And Jesus wants me to forsake that? NO WAY in HELL, it will freeze over first.
Chudakov77 1 month ago
@Chudakov77 I'm sorry to hear that Christianity was forceful against your native culture... Christianity is supposed to be about mercy, hope, truth and love. And I believe people should have freedom in whatever belief they have as long as it doesn't harm anyone else.
Matthew 10:34-39 isn't about forsaking family. It's about bringing truth and getting rid of traditions and exposing the problems of the family so it might take those problems out and grow spiritually.
oscarmarin1995 1 month ago
@Chudakov77 It's also about loving God more than family. I love God more than family, though I still unconditionally love my family.
Christ is the same yesterday, today and for ever.
Friend, you can find the answers to your questions in the Bible and in theology. Those are good questions and I'll look to see if I can get answers.
Everyone makes mistakes (sins)... I know Christians have screwed up A LOT in history. And I am sorry for that.But I don't let bad people speak for mybelief
oscarmarin1995 1 month ago
@oscarmarin1995 I dont know what made Jesus say such things sometimes, or what he felt or thought. Where there two or more Christ who all preached different things? Did they merge them all together? Or they just added these things to discredit him? Or he really wanted to just wrestle control away from Old Testament Priests and start his own Church and have power instead of them? I don't know, nor do I care. We will NEVER know that.
Chudakov77 1 month ago
@oscarmarin1995 I just know one thing. I rather worship Gods of my forefathers than a man of another culture and nationality? Especially of people who's behavior wasn't really good and honest throughout the history. Why should I worship someone else's God who states that all other nations and kingdoms will be in the servitude of HIS "Chosen People" if they follow his WILL? Why should I consider their culture, history, myths and legends divine? They have nothing to do with me.
Chudakov77 1 month ago
@oscarmarin1995 Anyways thats is all I wanted to say I guess. Thats my take on why I cant except Christianity. On deeper level I just feel this dark side to Christianity as if I was staring at some Trojan Horse in ways. I can sense some sort of danger from it like blackness which tries to envelop peoples minds, to block them from the true understanding of their place and themselves. Its kinda hard to explain. I just know its like a trap wrapped in half truths as bait.
Chudakov77 1 month ago
@Chudakov77 You know what man... I hope you don't let bad people give you a view on Christianity... You should study it to find out yourself what it's about. You don't have to, I'm just suggesting, but anyways yeah glad you found your worldview friend. :)
oscarmarin1995 1 month ago
@Chudakov77 So the explanation, according to Africanus, must be that the darkness was miraculous
There's also medical evidence.
Do you think the whole thing is a myth?
oscarmarin1995 1 month ago
@oscarmarin1995 "In ancient history, two independent sources for an event are often quite evidential." - Well I would agree with this statement if I haven't witnessed how easily historical events are being manipulated and changed. You dont even have to go as far as 2000 years. It would be enough to just go back 60 years to see history is being twisted. If we have trouble sorting out events which happen 60 years ago, how can we be sure of what really occurred 2000 years back?
Chudakov77 1 month ago
@oscarmarin1995 As for Darkness and if it was miraculous or not. We cant really be sure because we do not have accurate dates of Jesus`s birth or death. All the dates are rough estimations and guesswork. There is absolutely no solid evidence when it all happened. If they say that there was an eclipse close to event, than it must be that. Was it miraculous eclipse or a regular one? No one knows, nor no one ever will. If Gods wanted us to see miracles we would see them.
Chudakov77 1 month ago
@oscarmarin1995 Look, I dont wanna really shake your Faith or anything its not my intent. I just think that this story was heavily edited and modified to sound more awesome than it really was. After all Jesus was voted by mere men if he should be considered a God or not at the the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD. I think it was 298 to 2 in favor that Jesus is a Son of God. Thats in itself not very convincing in my opinion. Men deciding if someone God or not? Please. : )
Chudakov77 1 month ago
@Chudakov77 Well, the men decided based on scripture... I don't know. I've having doubts about the whole thing though
oscarmarin1995 1 month ago
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@oscarmarin1995 "Well, the men decided based on scripture... I don't know. I've having doubts about the whole thing though" <--- What exactly do you have doubts about? The religion itself or the miracles? Please elaborate if you can.
Chudakov77 1 month ago
@oscarmarin1995 As for do I think its ALL a Myth? It could be 50/50 chance. I think SOMETHING did happen. A man called Ieyasu started spreading new ideology and got taken out by priests who advocated old ideology, thus this new man with his radical new teaching was a danger to them - they had him crucified. The followers of this man decided to make a martyr out of him so they stole his body and spread tales of his miraculous resurrection. Thats what I think really happened.
Chudakov77 1 month ago
@oscarmarin1995 I am not an atheist. I believe in Creator, for our Universe and ourselves are evidence of this Creation. But all the other things and concepts are unnecessary and pointless. If God really wanted to send us signs or show us miracles he would have done so a long time ago. Or sent another Avatar of his to correct our path if we are on the wrong one. Or simply destroyed us and remade the world as he saw fit. It is ALL knowing ALL powerful God after all no?
Chudakov77 1 month ago
@oscarmarin But he doesn't. So either he is busy, or simply doesn't like to interfere in human affairs. Face it there hasn't been any magic miracles in our world for a long time if not forever. I consider more miraculous forces of nature and the Universe than such things as Jesus or Virgin birth which cant be even checked or tested 100%. I have a feeling Christians will be waiting for second coming for a VERY VERY long time. But thats just my opinion about it. Who knows.
Chudakov77 1 month ago
@Chudakov77 So you must be deist?
oscarmarin1995 1 month ago
@oscarmarin1995 ''So you must be deist?'' Heh, you know its pretty interesting. I never heard of this word nor knew its meaning, so I had to look it up actually. I was very surprised because amazingly enough it almost fits perfectly with how I view the Concept of God and the Universe. I didn't even know such definition existed. I guess you learn new things all the time. I guess ya you can say I am Deist. :)
Chudakov77 1 month ago
@Chudakov77 I can message you on the Resurrection. It's quite a bit to type on here.
oscarmarin1995 1 month ago
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@Chudakov77 I can message you on the Resurrection. It's quite a bit to type on here.
oscarmarin1995 1 month ago
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@Chudakov77 I can message you on the Resurrection... It's quite a bit to type on here.
oscarmarin1995 1 month ago
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SpeakingWisdom 1 month ago
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EchoRevelation4Jesus 1 month ago
Jesus died on the cross to pay for our sins. Thats why the cross is seen as a good thing and why the death of Jesus is seen as a good thing. He was the "sacrificial, spotless lamb" of God. Then he rose from the dead that we would be also raised with him too when we put our faith in him.
nicholasnovak4 1 month ago
You muddy the water. All you are doing is trying to say that believing the Jesus is a Religion. It is not. Muslims say they believe Jesus was a Prophet, and therefore can not lie.
He said the Temple in Jerusalem would be torn down. And it happened.
He also said: "I and My Father are One and the same." and they are.
God the Father. God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. One God, One Savior, One Faith.
But he also said you can not even begin to Know this Unless You Are Born Again.!!
John 3:1-21
Vulcaneer900 1 month ago
@Ayan120--I just did this morning. Have you not read my contradictions?
BeaconofLight1970 1 month ago
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Muslims must believe in the revelation given to Jesus as prescribed above. Sura 5:75 is clear that Jesus' primary assignment was to be a messenger that allah had sent down the Torah of moses and the gospel of Jesus ---sura 3:3.
BeaconofLight1970 1 month ago
Here is where your problem lies...How can a muslim confirm the message of Christ if the Old Testament and New Testament are corrupt? Let's look at sura 2:136 "Say ye: we believe in allah and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to all Prophets from their Lord..."
BeaconofLight1970 1 month ago
Surah 9:30 says the Jews believe that Ezra is the Son of God - the Messiah!
This has never been a tenet of Judaism.
Surah 20:90-100 says a Samaritan helped the Israelites build the golden calf, and it mooed after coming out of the fire.
Samaritans did not exist as a people until at least 1000 years after the time of Moses and the Israelite exodus from Egypt.
BeaconofLight1970 1 month ago
Surah 18:89-98 says Alexander the Great was a devout Muslim and lived to a ripe old age.
Historical records show that Alexander the Great died young at 33 years of age. He believed he was divine and forced others to recognize him as such. In India on the Hyphasis River Alexander erected twelve altars to twelve Olympian gods.
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BeaconofLight1970 1 month ago
esus was born more than 1,000 years after Moses
Moses and the Injil
Sura 7:157 Allah speaks to Moses about what is written in the Injil (the book given to Jesus)
Sura 2:97 - The Angel Gabriel
Who brings the revelation from Allah to Muhammad?
Sura 16:102 - The Holy Spirit
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BeaconofLight1970 1 month ago
Sura 41:11 states that in the process of creation heaven and earth were first apart and are called to come together.
Heaven and earth ripped apart or called together?
Sura 21:30 states that they were originally one piece and then ripped apart.
Does Allah forgive shirk? Sura 4:48, 116
No Sura 4:153, 25:68-71
Yes
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BeaconofLight1970 1 month ago
Sura 7:54, 10:3, 11:7, and 25:59 all clearly state that God created "the heavens and the earth" in six days.
How many days did creation take?
Sura 41:9-12, the detailed description of the creation procedure, add up to eight days.
Sura 2:29 says the earth was created first and then heaven.
Which was created first, the heavens or the earth?
Sura 49:27-30 says the heaven was created first and then the earth was created.
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BeaconofLight1970 1 month ago
Who takes people's souls at death? Sura 39:42 "It is Allah that takes the souls at death"
Sura 35:1 Angels have 2, 3, or 4 pairs of wings
How many wings do angels have?
The angel Gabriel had 600 wings. (Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 455)
Sura 54:19 - One day
How many days did Allah need to destroy the people of Aad?
Sura 41:16 & 69:6,7 - several days
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BeaconofLight1970 1 month ago
In Sura 41:30 and 57:21 there is said to be only one garden in Paradise.How many garden's are there in paradise?
In Sura 18:31, 22:23, 25:33, and 78:32 there are many gardens in Paradise.
Sura 56:7 says there will be three distinct groups of people at the Last Judgment.
How many groups will there be at the last judgement?
Sura 90:18-19 and 99:6-8 say there will be two distinct groups at the Last Judgment.
Sura 32:11 The angel of death
Sura 47:27 The angels (plural)
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BeaconofLight1970 1 month ago
In Sura 3:42, 45 SEVERAL angels appear to Mary in the annunciation of the birth of Jesus.
How many angels were talking to Mary? In Sura 19:17-21 only ONE angel appears to the virgin Mary. In Sura 22:47 and 32:5 Allah's day is equal to 1,000 human years.Allah's day is equal to how many human years? In Sura 70:4, Allah's day is equal to 50,000 human years.
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BeaconofLight1970 1 month ago
While it is true that reason is a gift from God, the heart of man is deceitful. Arguing the validity of your view of God based on reason is the position of humanists. Taking a subsequent literary work and using it to supersede a previous work with no historical information to back it up is not reasonable. Not to mention that the hadith is filled with stories that defy reason; as is the Qua'ran, the Bible and every other religious work. If it's all so reasonable, there is no need for faith.
manyfaceddestiny 1 month ago
Cute but it's still Muslim.
1tontomato 1 month ago
@YEHBRO100 As oppose to the olden youtube day's when nodoy commeted on anything.
There is a place to put comments why shouldn't I do so
TheHeineken1990 1 month ago
Jesus has two natures. Jesus was not denying that He was God. He was merely acknowledging the fact that He was also a man. Jesus is both God and man. As a man, he was in a lesser position than the Father. He had added to Himself human nature (Col. 2:9). He became a man to die for people.
No follower of God should wear a cross.
2:32 "no one used to worship Jesus" read Matthew 8:2; Luke 24:52; Hebrews 1:6;
Mcstroke57 1 month ago
@Mcstroke57 Do you honestly realise what your saying? God is man as well as being God? that is the biggest contradiction ever made. How can the Creator who is immortal be immortal and mortal at the same time, how can the Creator who is unlike anyother being be unique as welll as being one human amongst 6 billion? How can the Creator who is independant of all needs, be independant aswell as being dependant upon food, water etc for survival. Seriously re-evalute your comment.
Ayan120 1 month ago
@Ayan120 maybe he could be a man as well to prove his love for his creation and show the only path to him. To assume that God can't do what he wants.. even become a man is worth re-evaluation.
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@Ayan120 The answer to the whole concept between god being jesus (a man) and the holy spirit, to me, lies in faith, and intangible inner guidance. When one question religon, he himself is still in the beginning steps of bein apart of any religon, or he is a non-believer. I do not question and ask I understand believe and accept god can and is all he wishes to be. And that he came down in human form. Honestly if he came down as god floating instead of walking, and all holy-looking, in this day
BrowardCountyBoy 1 month ago
@BrowardCountyBoy and age do you believe us men would believe that god came down in a godly form anyway. It really doesnt matter which way he came down. Us humans can not answer "why did he come down as a human" based on our knowledge. or opinion. To ask why god came down as human instead of a god is a total opinion, deriving from disbelief. Faith does not involve opinion but rather the inner belief of what is.
BrowardCountyBoy 1 month ago
@BrowardCountyBoy I think god may have known that whether he came down as a god or human, that in 2000 years later (today) we would still question something that happened so long ago. God can do anything. He could end the world, he could have brainwashed us into believing only one religon like some sort of spiritual soldier. He wants us to explore, have the choice and understand all the fruits here on earth and in the end be with him.
BrowardCountyBoy 1 month ago
@BrowardCountyBoy But he rather us come to him and earn our way into heaven. Tell me, in a relationship between man and woman, what two people want the other to HAVE to be with them? No one does, everyone wants to be with someone that wants to be with them.
BrowardCountyBoy 1 month ago
Please understand that all denominations like the Roman Catholic church, Protestantism, Pietism, Evangelicalism, Pentecostalism and so many other...(approximately 38,000) have nothing to do with Jesus.
Mcstroke57 1 month ago
The Almighty God of Israel was, is, and forever shall be, one. There was no God formed before him, neither shall there be after him (Isaiah 44:8). He is the only saviour (Isaiah 43:11). He created heaven and earth by himself (Isaiah 44:24, Genesis 1:1, John 1:1-3, 10-14). He has sworn that every knee shall bow to him (Isaiah 45:23, Philippians 2:10), and he will not give his glory to another (Isaiah 42:8, 48:11).
Mcstroke57 1 month ago
If your mother died because she allowed it, in order for you aka her son to live, even if she died by being butchered with an axe. A confident loving man would wear an ae because of the tie he has with this weapon. It makes perfect sense why I as a christian would wear the cross. Its a homage and understanding that I love the cross.
Read my comment below this one!!
BrowardCountyBoy 1 month ago
@BrowardCountyBoy But how can that please you? For example, say someone I loved died on a deathbed, that doesn't meean I'm gonna wear a deathbed around my head in respect to him. That would only put someone through further anguish, at the mere remembrance. It doesn't make logical sense.
Ayan120 1 month ago
@Ayan120 well, ill state this fact, it is possible to embrace and accept the death for what it is, and move one, while still loving the person who past just as much as when they were alive. but its also possible to be depressed and stuck because of it. Doesnt it depend on a certain amount of spiritual maturity. Maybe maturity in general? I understand everyone accepts and deals with things differently. But for me a christian, u dont believe its possible for me to accept and love the cross?
BrowardCountyBoy 1 month ago
i wanted to NOT comment, buti think theres a reater purpose in saying my opinion so that others may see it, and not follow the ideas i nthis video. The man here is very abundant in wisdom and knowledge. but is not mature enough in faith. Its very evident in your manners. and the way you criticize. the man in this video who shows so much adversity for others and jesus, i dont believe he could possibly know the truth. For example he doesnt even follow love and acceptance
BrowardCountyBoy 1 month ago
@BrowardCountyBoy (continuation)
Christianity asks that you follow the standards which means to practice them onto others and demonstrate the right way.Telling the world why another religon is wrong is only going to make believers out of the uninformed. and those who settle for another wordly mans opinions. We have to be accepting and loving. I work with people of other faiths and can tell in the manner they feel and look that they lack acceptance of others, confidence, and mercy- jesus traits
BrowardCountyBoy 1 month ago
@BrowardCountyBoy i will alwys rise above because i know the truth. and i feel jesus' love. I LOVE JESUS for the record! and i love man too.. and i wil lalwyas try to demonstrate his ways because i am a follower of his love and ways. BTW Jesus allowed himself to die to pay for our sins. It is out of homage that I, as a christian, would wear something so blunt and potent around my neck. To others the cross is a symbol to be scared of, but to me it is power.
BrowardCountyBoy 1 month ago
@BrowardCountyBoy
For i know, and i know not with brains but by faith.....
Feel free to comment
BrowardCountyBoy 1 month ago
I LOVED IT! MASHALLAH!
PoeticEmpowerment 1 month ago
its so infuriating how many times we have to say as a christian that jesus is not god he is the son of god half man half a god thats why he speaks to me because he shows us that we all get it wrong we all make mistakes in our lives sometimes we commit unforgivable crimes but he will forgive us because he sees our faults as humans he sees our faults as nature but humans can change for the better like nature changes for the better he showed me that the dark turns into dawn and bad can turn good.
lollylopdraws 1 month ago
@Majstar7 Great video man! :) I am a christian and I just want to say that it's a really noble thing to search other faiths, enhancing your own. But in the bible there are chapters that say that Jesus was the son of God, one being Matthew 16:13 - 20 where Jesus himself said he was the Son of God, not just a prophet like Elijah. But I would love to chat more on it as we have a lot of truth between us and a lot of similarities in our faith that is often masked by conflict, thanks again mate!!!
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SpeakingWisdom 1 month ago
YOUR 'BROTHER LEBO2196' BLOCKS ALL CHRISTIANS AND REMOVES COMMENTS THAT PROVE JESUS IS GOD! IF HE WAS SO CONFIDENT IN WHAT HE SAYS IN HIS VIDEO, HE WILL NOT BEHAVE IN SUCH DEFENSIVE MANNER AND WILL GIVE CHANCE TO CHRISTIANS TO TAKE PART IN A HEALTHY DEBATE!! FUNNY ENOUGH HE DOES NOT REMOVECOMMENTS INCLUDING 'FILTHY, CUSSING AND DISGUSTING WORDS' - GOES TO SHOW WHO THIS GUY IS IN REALITY. WHY DO MUSLIMS CHICKEN OUT WHEN FACED WITH TRUTH?
JESUSmyLifemySaviour 1 month ago
@JESUSmyLifemySaviour Dude, you can't prove Jesus is God when Jesus by his physical self was a man, your OWN bible states that God is not a man (Numbers 23:19).You make statues of Jesus as a man, claim he is God, when your own scripture contradicts you. Seriously, research your own religion, rather than following the Church. See, The Church and The Bible teach completely OPPOSING things, The Bible (old testament) teaches submission to God whereas the Church teaches total opposite.
Ayan120 1 month ago
wow..can u stop this racism ok! u have no rights to condone ppls believe.Why u ppl got nothing better to do?? or just an attention seeker??. I believe in Jesus n he is my God.Who the hell are you to stop me.No matter u cite the whole bible or Quran trying to prove that he is not God but we all know the truth n U cant stop us from beveling that. So respects ppl beliefs cause God gave us the choice to choose n stop all this bullshit because you are just making a religion stir among us.
shiryasaran23 1 month ago
@smanahassan Let's consider broken telephone. The Original Old Testament was written in Hebrew, where as the New Testament was originally written in Greek (if I'm not mistaken) and was translated many times to accommodate the fact that our religion is culturally diverse. For many years the Bible and its contents were shared orally,then were copied by hand. It's inevitable that there are some discrepancies. Despite the MINOR differences, the stories, the morals, the teachings, the TRUTH remains.
3xtralicious 1 month ago
Are you here to talk about Jesus or Mohammed. Teach us Islam let us have an open mind. Everybody knows Christ.
dicksnko 1 month ago
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what the fuck has god got against pork
Bsideshit 1 month ago
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Bsideshit 1 month ago
@SonOfHassan How can you trust something And base your life on something that has so many contradictions and wrongs and immorals.
ohmysausages 1 month ago
@DaneStolthed Stop saying 'bible quote*' teaches us" it show how much of a sheep and idiot you are.
ohmysausages 1 month ago
@DaneStolthed Thus showing the disgusting anger that lies in the bible.
ohmysausages 1 month ago
This video is so fucking stupid this guy is the biggest hypocrite i have ever seen in my whole life!
Why don't Muslims,Jews and Christians realize that all three of the religions are equally stupid and pointless
TheHeineken1990 1 month ago
@TheHeineken1990 Dont condem all religions without studying them in depthly, then with sufficent prove you'll come to find that the Qu'ran is the only book in the history of time which has stayed intact, flawless and without error for 14000 years. Dont simply elimante all religions because you see a few religous people in error, it just makes you seem like a ignorant person.
Ayan120 1 month ago
@Ayan120 Well firstly 14000 years ?
secondly you haven't studied Judaism , Christianity and Islam in depth (hardly anybody has )
And thirdly the Qu'ran can hardly be called flawless and without error
TheHeineken1990 1 month ago
@TheHeineken1990 I CHALLENGE YOU, ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER MUSLIMS ON HERE, TO PROVE ONE ERROR, ONE MISTAKE, ONE FLAW IN THE GLORIOUS QU'RAN.
Ayan120 1 month ago
@Ayan120 challenge accepted
TheHeineken1990 1 month ago
@TheHeineken1990 But you see.....you'll never be able to.Sure you can try, but I can GUARANTEE 100% you'll never succeed. Why? Because even the most eloquent, most knowledable arabs in the Prophet's (pbuh) time were not able to, and I'm most certain you cant either.
Ayan120 1 month ago
@Ayan120 1. And He taught Adam all the names.”
Allah taught Adam all the names of the plants and animals, which must have taken a while since there are 1.7 million species that are known today, with probably another 10 million or so that are yet to be discovered. And this only includes those that are alive today. If extinct species are included (~99%), then Allah must have taught Adam a billion or so names. 2:31
TheHeineken1990 1 month ago
@TheHeineken1990 that pretty unlikely
TheHeineken1990 1 month ago
And while 1+1+1 would give u 3, the trinity is better understood mathematically via the analogy in multiplication that says 1 x1x1=1. Here you have three distinctions yet equalling 1 in another respect. U can't defeat a position by using logical fallacies in this case setting up strawmen/false representations+distortions of a view+knocking those down thinking u have even commented on what the real view really is. If the Muslim really cared about being rational they wouldn't do this+nor b Muslim.
Dominick7 1 month ago
Shows the same false assumptions Mohamed had of christianity..if he didn't even properly understand the Bible or its message why would anyone believe anything else he had to say? God wasn't killed on the cross, Jesus had two different natures, 1 human 1 divine. Jesus died via His human nature not divine. And the trinity doesn't teach 3 gods but 1 God revealed in three persons, or 3 persons that share the same 1 divine nature.
Dominick7 1 month ago
What's the name of the song in the background?
Smartboy7 1 month ago
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Jesus replied, "IF ANYONE LOVES ME, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. John 14:23
You cannot say you love Jesus and practice Islam because Jesus is diametrically apposed to it's false teachings. Your love for Jesus is disingenuous because you have made for yourself a version of Jesus that is false and incompatible to the Gospel.
One major difference between Islam and the teachings of Jesus is the assurance of salvation.
DaneStolthed 1 month ago
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"Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.)" The Quran 191-2.
Jesus said in John 10:10, "The thief comes only to steal and KILL and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full."
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him." John 3:36
DaneStolthed 1 month ago
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Allah says that you must keep fighting until there is no more persecution and everyone on earth is a Muslim. Then you can stop KILLING people. But if there are any wrong-doers around after you've KILLED off all the disbelievers, persecutors and aggressors, then you'll have to KILL them too. The Quran 2:193
In Matthew 5:43,44 Jesus said, "You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you."
DaneStolthed 1 month ago
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God is worthy of worship because He created all things by His Word.
John 1:1-3 teaches that Jesus is the the Word of God thus He is the creative force. Therefore, Jesus is worthy of the same worship due to God.
Jesus made Himself equal to God in John 5:18
Men worshiped Jesus in John 9:38
Kings worshiped Jesus in Psalm 72:10-15
Angels worship Jesus in Hebrews 1:6
In Luke 4:8 Jesus answered, "It is written: Worship the Lord your God and serve him only."
Conclusion: Jesus is God John 10:30
DaneStolthed 1 month ago
No peace, like on a farm - no solice, euros caught up like predicted...i actually wanna be a farm hand again. i like muslim, it translates over in the bible i am familure with, it gives me a clearer sharper view everyday! things seem to get clearer and less "mystical" i just hope to alwase hit the subject matter, n never miss.it's not good to pray to same god with so many interpetations. so war happens,butti dont have to like it! all thease people r good, caught up and blined in a power struggle
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SpeakingWisdom 1 month ago
Worship the one that created you, not the one that was created. Jesus worshipped and prayed to God, he submitted his will to God as did all the Prophets Peace be upon them all. This is arabic is called a Muslim.
worshipcreatoronly 1 month ago
True = love is / BLIND!! and god gave a brain! this speaks volume's to me! i wanna know more!! MUCH MORE! i donno how to even find you again....
flogginyerbanterbox 1 month ago
As Muslims we know that to judge a religion one must approach it's source of guidance, in the case of christianity, judaism & Islam that is the divine scriptures. As a Muslim when we want to know id something is true according to Christian scripture we would pick up a bible, strangely enough there are that many stories such as the whole 'moon god' story that have been invented yet with no source in Islamic scripture. Stop telling stories and go and read who Jesus was himself.
SonOfHassan 1 month ago
WORD!! MashaAllah.
And those who disbelieve say to those who believe, "Follow our way, and we will carry your sins." But they will not carry anything of their sins. Indeed, they are liars."
"But they will surely carry their [own] burdens and [other] burdens along with their burdens, and they will surely be questioned on the Day of Resurrection about what they used to invent."
[Qur'an 29:12-13]
AmatullahSharif 1 month ago
he has to have unlimited potential in creating every fabric of matter in the entirety of the universe and he also cannot be in compliance with the laws of physics [gravity], This means that being is out of the universe and has created it for one purpose, so how can Christians believe he was a man, wouldn't that mean he was dependant as he had to breathe oxygen, as well as eat food, as well as go sleep, as well as walk on the ground, as well as drink water? These are characteristics of man
09krymez 1 month ago
For there to be the universe there must be something to create it, athiests believe there is a repeat button that makes the universe stretch and then shrink but they forget there has to be someone to also press the repeat button.
09krymez 1 month ago
can any1 please tell me what the nasheed in the background is called???
MsMeryem76 1 month ago
The problem with Islam is that you focus on a creator, whereas Christianity, we acknowledge HIM as the creator, but also take HIM as our Father. Islamic teachings is that the creator would have us all act as loyal and obedient slaves... With Christianity, since we are seen as Children of God... then we may partake in the inheritance. How many slaves have inherited their master's kingdom? Answer... NONE... But as Children of GOD (Father/Son/HolySpirit), we may partake in the inheritance.
MrBbqweed 1 month ago
@MrBbqweed yeh we are all gods children but what you inherit from god would be in the afterlife due to you thanking god for giving you the chance to repent and if you thank him every day so that you do not forget him then you will be able to inherit the eternal time in heaven you don't need to inherit anything in this world.
123beserious 1 month ago
Gospel of John 16:26-33:
25 “Though I have been speaking figuratively, a time is coming when I will no longer use this kind of language but will tell you plainly about MY Father.
Please do not misquote and take things out of context. Jesus died because we cannot redeem ourselves by being good or following rules. We are all sinful so He died in OUR place. That's not weakness that is LOVE.
hayworthhome 1 month ago
Such a STRONG saying subhanallah
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SuperPoetryslam 1 month ago
So muslims believe in Jesus' miraculous birth but not in his miraculous ascension?
valenvid 1 month ago
@valenvid No, you are right, we believe in his miraculous ascension also. However we believe that he was raised up by God without having died like the Christains say he did. Jesus was protected by God. There is no way God would have let him die in that manner being that God and Jesus both knew the implacations of dying on a peice of would or hanged on a tree. The Jews knew that if they killed Jesus then Jesus could not be the Messiah. That's why God saved him from this kind of death.
IsaHamzaBilal 1 month ago
@IsaHamzaBilal.. So the idea of him being the sacrificial lamb to replace sacrifices of blood and all he has said like I lay may life down and raise it up in three days... etc... you are saying you dont believe?
valenvid 1 month ago
@valenvid No, there is absolutely no need for Christ to be Crucified. Meaning, that God is all-Merciful. That was not Jesus' mission to come here to die. All the prophets taught repentance. To turn back to God when you sin. People just think that God needed to send a person to die for us, why? Nothing you or I do will diminish the Glory, Benevolence, or Majesty of God. We cannot increase His dominion nor can we decrease it. He does NOT need us, we need him.
IsaHamzaBilal 1 month ago
@valenvid He allows us to live by His own Will. He forgives who He Wills with or without my or your permission. If We turn away from Him, He will replace us with people who won't turn away. We are meerly lowly people. The creation cannot be equal to the Creator. Nothing in this world can compare to Him in His Knowledge or Glory. Who can complete with God? Jesus? Not a chance, and Jesus would be the first to say he cannot.
IsaHamzaBilal 1 month ago
@IsaHamzaBilal your taking things out of concept Jesus was a prophet so he did not mislead people its people who got the wrong message from his words
123beserious 1 month ago
@123beserious Definitly... I do NOT disagree with you. The people took his message and changed it. Therefore his message was no longer authentic. The church is responsible for do that. However, it would not be in the nature of Jesus to say that he is the Son, or that he is God, or that he had any kind of divine qualities. All Jesus did was exactly what God told him to do. Muslims have no problem with that. We only have a problem when men say that a human had God-like qualities. Not Jesus!
IsaHamzaBilal 1 month ago
@123beserious My friend, I'm with you on this. I'm not taking anything out of context. I mean exactly what you said, I just said it in different words. People mislead people not Jesus.
IsaHamzaBilal 1 month ago
@valenvid Remember, Jesus said: "I can of my own self do NOTHING!" But the Chrsitians took it as: "There is nothing Jesus can't do." This is a HUGE misconception of Jesus. Jesus, on the day of Judgement will be shaking in his boots hoping for God to shower him with mercy. Lets get real, friends. Lead not by emotion, but lets lead by truth and reason!
IsaHamzaBilal 1 month ago
@IsaHamzaBilal
Gospel of John 5:28-30 28 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29 and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned. 30 By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.
I couldn't fit it in but start reading at verse 24 and it will make even more sense.
hayworthhome 1 month ago
@hayworthhome so do you think jesus is god, the holy spirit or gods son?
123beserious 1 month ago
@123beserious
Gospel of John 20:31
31 but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.
hayworthhome 1 month ago