@theamazingatheist do you have a facebook? you seem like a freaking awesome person to argue with. my name is hunter fade taylor and my picture is me in a football jersey
Omg it's a fuckin analogy! Jesus fucking Christ it annoys me to no fucking end when people start analyzing an analogy and taking it further than it was ever meant to be. The analogy was rats and snakes. So fuck your stupid hawk.
@MrTraumaMan Analogies are to make points that can be hard to make any other way and I really don't see how he could have had a shorter version of that analogy, if I had for example just ended with "Snake in a cage of rats" it wouldn't have made sense, but when he added that the snake ate the bad rats it made a lot more sense, anyway your tastes, I personally didn't mind the analogy at all.
Power is either given or earned.. There are good cops and bad cops..Cops are people like you and I . We need police, because we dont trust each other to drive safetly..but we need police to bring people to justice..
I agree with you 100%. Average Americans are no longer free thinkers. They give up their freedoms with little hesitation and swallow the lies with a spoonful of honey. We've forgotten the struggles of our forefathers and allow politicians and police to step on the constitution and trample our rights. We need to once again stand up and yell "give me liberty or give me death!"
i love all your videos but this situation goes both ways. a lot of good things are done with cameras and tracers and advanced police force. more guilty people are caught then innocent with crimes.
If you don't like it why don't you just leave the country? Instead of bitch go see how it is in a land where you can get robbed or stabbed and no one cares.
@AragornStarfire Because in this country, you're still allowed to bitch about your living conditions with less reproach than that which you'll face in any other country. However, as more of us get broken like cowboys did to their horses, the more anger we'll feel towards martyrs, whether their causes were just or not. The more we worry about regular viewings of our favorite shows, the less we worry about our vanishing freedoms.
Yo Tj, you are obviously a pretty smart guy. Did you take any post-secondary courses? How does one become savvy about all of these things? Do you read the paper or watch the news?
I'd like to learn as much as I can, although even watching your videos has made me a bit jaded on certain topics :]
All good points. The army invaded its own country in places like Nazi Germany and the police sometimes make things up in order to wrap up a difficult case faster. Thus thousands of falsely accused people are in prison in this country. True freedom is freedom to be critical of those in authority. Otherwise, the authority figures will take advantage of our naivity like they do in dictatorships and other corrupt systems.
Power is necessary to maintain control. However, we exist in a society which equivacates power with money. Thus wherever money gets directed to the individuals who get the biggest share of this money gain more power. This unfortunatly results in a growing gap between the rich and the poor. It also results in advancement of technology. As a society, we need to shift our entire paradigm to view technological advancements as a necessecity. If this occurs, than power will be given to technology.
Man I don't know where to go with this one. Power and warfare have created just as much as they've destroyed at times. (See Rome and how it ushered in a new world of technological development until fucking Constantine the Deluded through conquest)
I just can't see humans being ready to live in a border anarchy environment. I mean, people like you could do it, people who have their wits about them. But what about the idiotic theists and selfish loners? Could we really exist with people like that?
@nibbers97 I'm sorry, but that's not the way humans work. A loner with self interests who doesn't care for the well being of others will prey on the weak, and without some form of organized control, he/she will be able to do so unopposed.
@EdikShepherd Who says it's a bad thing if the strong prey upon the weak? If the weak have friends to defend them, then they can turn the tables. Justice will ultimately prevail no matter what. A murderer will not survive long in an anarchist nation.
@abusundah Heeey, abusundah, didn't expect to see you here.
So your "moderatism" within islam isn't really moderatism at all, huh? Since you distrust jews and all...
You're actually a good example for how most of the public muslim figures are. You don't like jews, you don't see that islam is about killing non-believers instead of spreading your religion peacefully (there are actually some parts that are about this, but they directly contradict the other parts where murder is okay.. whoops).
@Squiglypig Actually , I dont heat all Jews , I just distrust those who have the power , I mean american Jews who are the decision maker in the US government , their support of Israel in the UN ,supplying high tech weapons tho Israel to murder Palestinians , The Mossad committing assassination on public without any body saying no .
I like Jews who want peace with the Palestinians , I like those who believe that Wars are no good and not a way to get more money and power .
Act all self-righteous you want, TJ, and rant about the "oppression" in this country, but I think perspective is required in this instance.
I've read Kozol. I've read several books about the evils of people with political power and intentional impoverishing of certain sects of citizens. I don't deny it. I can't.
However, this does not change the fact that we have more freedom in this country than in any other, and the government hasn't killed us all despite its capability.
Upset that you can't bring poison gas or a nuclear explosive on an airplane?
You CHOSE to fly on an airline. That includes consenting to all searches. Try reading the forms next time you buy a ticket.
This is probably the worst way to make a point. In fact, if anything you strengthened my assertion...consent must be given (through a waiver) for the airline to examine a bag they are charged with transporting!
When you buy an airline ticket, you give your consent to have your stuff (and yourself) examined. Just because you choose not to read things doesn't mean the agreement isn't there.
It's not about whether or not you choose to take an airplane out of the country or just from one city another city inside the same country, it's about WHAT they demand of you.
If the norm for airflight travel was that you would be sodomized and if you didn't want to be sodomized you couldn't go, wouldn't you find that an infringement?
Speaking figureatively here, but you never know if you'd be able to see that or not.
I understood perfectly. Airlines could absolutely put "consent for sodomy" on their airline tickets if there weren't laws against it. But then no one would fly and they would go out of business.
There's national security, and there's you being a dickhead.
@TheZooCrew So it's incredibly safe for the nation to touch my penis because I might be an extremist with a very dangerous piece of "equipment" between my legs.
If you're going to bitch this much about someone checking for explosives in your suitcase, then I suggest not flying an airplane. You don't need to fly on an airplane to survive.
I seriously don't understand how you can object to something you clearly consent to have performed. Get over yourself.
I never said that they shouldn't check my luggage, but touching my penis isn't exactly like putting my suit case through an x-ray.
And would you, or would you not object to being forced to wear a butt-plug through the whole journey just to be sure that you haven't hidden any explosives inside your rectum? After all, if you want to fly you HAVE to have the butt-plug.
Dude, when you buy an airline ticket, your signature (or the box you check online) confirms that you CLEARLY understand your express consent to all searches, including your favorite...the penis-touch.
I would only object to wearing a buttplug if I hadn't signed a fucking legal document that consented to placement of said butt plug. It's your own damn fault if you don't read.
@TheZooCrew "It's your own damn fault" So what if there's extra-fine print that says that they can fuck your house and take your dog? Ahhh what freedoms they have.
You're not getting one single fucking thing I'm saying.
I'm not only talking about airplane tickets here, but obviously you get too excited about having someone actually touch your pen0r that you can't see that.
@TheZooCrew I suggest that you actually look up that quote..
You have no fucking idea who said that, huh? "Never been in any kind of peril"... Yeah right!
So you actually want to sacrifice your "precious" (in quotations because you obviously don't give a rat's ass(in parantheses because you obviously can't understand even less than subtle hints)) freedom, because you're afraid of an enemy that can't do any actual damage to you.
Consent makes everything legal, regardless of what country you're in.
Last I checked, England and Sweden didn't have their fucking planes hijacked and flown through skyscrapers. In case you didn't notice. I hated the Patriot Act, too, but excuse me for caring about my family.
@TheZooCrew Aha, so what you said about sodomy is bullshit.
I guess that if I can make you sign a document that says that I'm allowed to kill you, that I'm allowed to kill you.
Is that how it is? Wow. That's some weird shit right there!
Yeah. Blame your presidents for not thinking things through on that one. It's been what.. almost 10 years and things have escalated in security, but NOT in terrorism.
"things have escalated in security, but NOT in terrorism."
Read the damn news. This is only because we've STOPPED terrorist attacks due to security. And actually, security has backed off with the exception of TSA. Quit fucking whining and be glad you live in a country that actually lets you whine in a public forum. It's something we take for granted.
@TheZooCrew Yeah. I should just shut up and be happy that I have the choice to whine and bitch, but that I shouldn't actually USE that freedom that I have, because then it would just be a mess.
That's not a freedom.
Now go and help take someone's freedoms away somewhere else.
Okay, so you're bitching because you have the freedom to bitch and want to use it ad nauseum. Don't let me stop you. Forgive me for thinking you were trying be something other than obnoxious.
Sounds like you're one of those assholes who just won't shut up about "injustice" and "oppression," and when someone tells you to give it a rest, you get in their face about how they're taking away your freedom.
You probably need a punch in the face. I would gladly accept an arrest and a misdemeanor on my record if it made you less of a dickhead.
@TheZooCrew I'm not being obnoxious, I'm just saying that they shouldn't have the right to fucking touch my junk every time I want to take a plane in the US.
If you're going to whine about getting wet, then stay out of the pool. The airline doesn't have the right to touch your junk unless YOU give it to them.
"He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither".
Fine, let's take down all borders and dissolve the military. Erase the entire defense budget. Eliminate taxes, therefore dissolving the police force, fire departments, hospitals, and laws. After all, that's all security we got through sacrifice of monetary freedom.
If you didn't read the news, there WAS an underwear bomber in this country in the past year. If TSA didn't check your sensitive regions, terrorists would undoubtedly smuggle things by placing them in those regions. It's just common sense.
If you bothered to understand the new TSA shit, they only do the full pat-down if you refuse the x-ray, and people DO refuse the x-ray for some reason. They also do random once-overs with the wand.
@TheZooCrew You'd be surprised by how much you can fit inside a rectum.
How do you think the buttplugs work? Even a small piece of C4 double the size of a normal grape would be enough to shatter a plane's hull. Bye bye plane. WHEN WILL THEY SAVE US FROM THIS TERRORIST THREAT!!!?
If I asked if I could punch you and you said "yes, you are allowed to punch me" (without sarcasm) and I slugged you in the jaw, why would you feel the need to complain? You brought it upon yourself!
Ben Franklin didn't actually fight in the war, if I recall, and the important part of that comment was the absence of weapons of mass destruction. Franklin's quote was directly targeted towards Loyalists who sided with England because they appeared to be invincible.
@TheZooCrew There's still laws against it. If you asked me if you could shoot me, and I said yes. You would then proceed to shoot me and end up in jail with a charge for attempted homicide (or homicide, depending on where you shot me).
I guess the "Well he agreed to it" doesn't mean a SHIT, huh?
And why did that German dude still get jailed for cannibalism? He had proof that the "victim" had agreed to it.
Whoops, demolished your argument. Sorry about that.
Intent is also a significant part of crime. When the TSA guy grabs your dick, he is (usually) in the process of checking for weapons or other illegal items. The intent is to provide security for you and other passengers. If you know anything about law, you know that there comes a time when personal privacy is outweighed by the public good.
"You're not allowed to tackle full-on in football."
I don't find it illogical at all. The search is a price you pay for your safety, the safety of the other people on the flight, and the service the airline provides.
Ben Franklin was a genius of a man, but he was no soldier. He also didn't live in a time period where pointless terrorism was rampant and weapons of mass destruction existed.
If I tackled you on the street, you would be well within my rights to object and knock me through a window.
However, if I tackled you during a game of football, you would have no right to object because you agreed to the rules of football when you entered the game.
@TheZooCrew I'm also kinda pissed about minors being taken away from their parents while they're waiting for their flights. Why? Because they share the same name as someone on the terror watch list. Yep, some REALLY intelligent people are working there.
A 5 year old is CLEARLY involved with the taliban.
@TheZooCrew Of course, "Allowed to kill you" is meant in a figurative way, expressing how I can do WHATEVER to WHOEVER as long as they have signed a document that says that I have their permission.
@TheZooCrew I like that you said "We can waive said freedoms" because that just shows how little you really think about having the freedom NOT TO HAVE YOUR FUCKING PENIS GRABBED. Note how it's basically just the US doing this. England? No crotch-grabbin' there. Sweden? They don't do it either.
When you ride a rollercoaster, there are signs that inform riders that they ride at their own risk. You have the freedom to ride, but you must accept the consequences.
@SinbladeZen Well, for one thing you can learn where the power emanates. It emanates from you. Your consent. Not in some abstract way, but literally, in statute, your consent is required for enforcement (legitimate enforcement that is). Sound crazy? It's not. It's well hidden and the "reputable" media reinforces the idea of "government is God" continually to keep you from questioning its power. Power is not Authority.
@DollaBiIIz I agree with you there. Mind you, obeying any religion will be Americas downfall. Thomas Pain, author of the Declaration of Independence, says that "There exists a wall of separation between church and state." America would do well to remember the ideas of its founding fathers.
You have inspired me to write a story in which a benevolent dictator takes over a former US state and makes everything better, then returns power to the people and leaves. And everybody just thought it was the most surreal experience they ever had because they never expected a dictator that took power through force to actually have good intentions.
rant over the government and not over the police whose sole job is to keep your ass from being mugged, robbed and murdered or at least help you find the guy/s who did it
@schootingstarr Yes, the police who lock up people for doing things that are their own personal business. (like using drugs, using the services of a prostitute or being one, gambling, etc.) The countless officers who unlawfully take money as "evidence" and declare about half of it, if that. The police that arrest about 4 times the amount of minorities even though ALL races commit violent crimes at the same rate or at the very least hassle them baselessly. Congrats, you're a good little sheep.
if the law says: prostitution/drug abuse is illegal, then it's the fucking job of the police to arrest them. it's not up to the police to judge, it's their job to enforce the law.
and if your police there is corrupted, it's the fault of your system
corrupted systems offer opportunities and an open door may tempt a saint
anyways... blahblahblah FREEDOM!!! Government = evil... and that's about all the similarities.
I'm not saying he's simply stupid but this anti-authoritarian paranoia won't lead to anything. I like that snake. Sure the snake should be questioned constantly so that the people don't let it do something terrible and getting away with it but to say that the snake shouldn't be alive in the first place is advocating anarchy. and come on. don't go there.
Look at the crazy shit that happened during the war, look at the lies, the deceit, the fraud, and the invasion of our privacy. And nothing seems to change no matter how much we protest.
but yes. you're right. the government is an evil force, it's not like the authorities consists of human beings or something Nooooo, they're EVIL! they're SATAN! they want to hurt you for the sake of hurting you. We need FREEDOM! stop controling us! Anarchy! Like in the dark ages after the roman empire fell, destroy the estab
epic fucking analogy
GamerGuitarer 3 weeks ago
dude please look up the bahai faith...
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Terminal2k1 2 months ago
@theamazingatheist do you have a facebook? you seem like a freaking awesome person to argue with. my name is hunter fade taylor and my picture is me in a football jersey
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israel did 911
it is false flag attack by jews israeli
jews control usa and israel is a jews terrorist state
lollaughsuspend 3 months ago
Ironic in the "greatest country in the world" we have the highest prison population on earth...
crh2010 4 months ago
atheist dude you are fuckin accurate! more power to ya!
oxjhan9 5 months ago
Omg it's a fuckin analogy! Jesus fucking Christ it annoys me to no fucking end when people start analyzing an analogy and taking it further than it was ever meant to be. The analogy was rats and snakes. So fuck your stupid hawk.
MrTraumaMan 5 months ago
@MrTraumaMan who the fuck got a hawk out of this haha rats as in scurry to get where your going in life, but the snakes always watching you man ;)
TheTheUglyTruth 4 months ago
@MrTraumaMan Analogies are to make points that can be hard to make any other way and I really don't see how he could have had a shorter version of that analogy, if I had for example just ended with "Snake in a cage of rats" it wouldn't have made sense, but when he added that the snake ate the bad rats it made a lot more sense, anyway your tastes, I personally didn't mind the analogy at all.
Lulzalutioners 1 month ago
@ZeldaKitteh believe it or not the rats if we make life terrible for the snakes. Less snakes means less hawks. #Circle of life
mizong84 5 months ago
Anthropomorphism of power is the first step on the road to turning it into a deity.
TheGeneralCritic 5 months ago
The only way to control the snake is to call a hawk. Balance everyone.
mizong84 6 months ago
@mizong84 Who controls the hawk?
Zeldakitteh 5 months ago
Power is either given or earned.. There are good cops and bad cops..Cops are people like you and I . We need police, because we dont trust each other to drive safetly..but we need police to bring people to justice..
cjrodrigs 6 months ago
alalalalaalalalalaaal blow up
tnaustin316 6 months ago
Now I have an image of rats with swords and torches trying to kill a snake.
star3catcherSEQUEL 6 months ago
xp yeah fuck the police!
theHedgex1 6 months ago
I agree with you 100%. Average Americans are no longer free thinkers. They give up their freedoms with little hesitation and swallow the lies with a spoonful of honey. We've forgotten the struggles of our forefathers and allow politicians and police to step on the constitution and trample our rights. We need to once again stand up and yell "give me liberty or give me death!"
bobthecat420 6 months ago
with trackers in your phones your phone can get tracked and possibly retrieved if you ever lose it or if someone steals it
but i see your point
rainers10 6 months ago
i love all your videos but this situation goes both ways. a lot of good things are done with cameras and tracers and advanced police force. more guilty people are caught then innocent with crimes.
BanqoutNiqqas 6 months ago
I'm not worried, the snake only eats the black rats.
dRevan64 7 months ago
@dRevan64 i see what you did there ;)
muzzatheginger 6 months ago
@dRevan64 that doesnt make any sense, it eats whatever it can to become fatter and fatter
BlackMetalWorld 3 months ago
@BlackMetalWorld #notgettingit
dRevan64 3 months ago
If you don't like it why don't you just leave the country? Instead of bitch go see how it is in a land where you can get robbed or stabbed and no one cares.
AragornStarfire 7 months ago
@AragornStarfire Because in this country, you're still allowed to bitch about your living conditions with less reproach than that which you'll face in any other country. However, as more of us get broken like cowboys did to their horses, the more anger we'll feel towards martyrs, whether their causes were just or not. The more we worry about regular viewings of our favorite shows, the less we worry about our vanishing freedoms.
Vleader001 7 months ago
Where did he get published anyone know?
mrhnm 7 months ago
I would fight for my right to party but i could get 25 to life if i do so.
Revolution2pointO 7 months ago
Yo Tj, you are obviously a pretty smart guy. Did you take any post-secondary courses? How does one become savvy about all of these things? Do you read the paper or watch the news?
I'd like to learn as much as I can, although even watching your videos has made me a bit jaded on certain topics :]
SnIkLeeT 8 months ago
@SnIkLeeT Watch the news, or read them, read from intelligent forums (not 4chan), dont watch just ONE guys videos and follow political debates.
Also, use your goddamn logic. Is there a almighty sadist cunt in the clouds? No? Then asume there isnt and make your point from there.
baboomfucker 7 months ago
@baboomfucker Well no shit dude, I was asking him not you. If you don't have anything that's not obvious to say, then I don't care
SnIkLeeT 7 months ago
@SnIkLeeT well you appeard as an idiot so why wouldnt i type to you so an idiot would understand?
baboomfucker 7 months ago
fuck cops...we need TAA for fucking president
codern 8 months ago
american cops are brutal,and also not very bright
relmmih6 8 months ago
@relmmih6 Not usually. I knew a former cop that is a huge dick.
TehFunnehMann 7 months ago
Are you the same person as Bromoz87? See this video he did to see the resemblance: Tobias Wolff - Chocolate Jesus
I asked him and he said he is not you, but he may be lying, so I am asking you too, just to be sure.
tomaf 9 months ago
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tomaf 9 months ago
well said
sweetness583 9 months ago
what does he suggest? anarchy?
SeasonsCurse 9 months ago
@SeasonsCurse sounds good
TiteProducts 9 months ago
@SeasonsCurse I don't think he's suggesting anarchy nor is it a proper solution.
Consider this:
Without legal consequences you essentially have civilian authority (good and bad in different aspects).
Some regulations benefit YOU the consumer.
Laws facilitate RETROACTIVE consequences for criminal conduct.
Cops have artificial power which enables them to violate civilians.
Many laws are established with little or no rationale.
Prohibition doesn't work (laws don't service prevention).
mrzeroten 8 months ago
I wish there were more of you in this country. Can I clone you? ;o)
Prncssdrake 9 months ago
All good points. The army invaded its own country in places like Nazi Germany and the police sometimes make things up in order to wrap up a difficult case faster. Thus thousands of falsely accused people are in prison in this country. True freedom is freedom to be critical of those in authority. Otherwise, the authority figures will take advantage of our naivity like they do in dictatorships and other corrupt systems.
GenerationX1984 9 months ago
@GenerationX1984 Not only that but there are certain individuals make money off of how many people are in jail. It's just a natural consequence.
NorthCitySider 9 months ago
Fat bitch
YoungMoney835 9 months ago
@YoungMoney835 Dumbfuck.
TheMrbubl3s 9 months ago
@YoungMoney835 Thats Mr. fat bitch to you.
ShroomFuu86 7 months ago
da chicken
wafflegizmos 9 months ago
Well Put........
seeker6789 9 months ago
Power is necessary to maintain control. However, we exist in a society which equivacates power with money. Thus wherever money gets directed to the individuals who get the biggest share of this money gain more power. This unfortunatly results in a growing gap between the rich and the poor. It also results in advancement of technology. As a society, we need to shift our entire paradigm to view technological advancements as a necessecity. If this occurs, than power will be given to technology.
xx1Alex1xx 9 months ago
Man I don't know where to go with this one. Power and warfare have created just as much as they've destroyed at times. (See Rome and how it ushered in a new world of technological development until fucking Constantine the Deluded through conquest)
I just can't see humans being ready to live in a border anarchy environment. I mean, people like you could do it, people who have their wits about them. But what about the idiotic theists and selfish loners? Could we really exist with people like that?
EdikShepherd 10 months ago
@EdikShepherd you wouldnt have to exist WITH loners they would be loning by themselves
nibbers97 10 months ago
@nibbers97 I'm sorry, but that's not the way humans work. A loner with self interests who doesn't care for the well being of others will prey on the weak, and without some form of organized control, he/she will be able to do so unopposed.
EdikShepherd 10 months ago
@EdikShepherd Who says it's a bad thing if the strong prey upon the weak? If the weak have friends to defend them, then they can turn the tables. Justice will ultimately prevail no matter what. A murderer will not survive long in an anarchist nation.
liegeofshadows 9 months ago
your "out of the box" thinking has gone far beyond the box and has lost its way from the original concept.
kraizeguy360 10 months ago
I'm sorry, but when a crackhead's mugging me at gunpoint, the policeguy who guns that sucker down is sure as hell my friend.
AduroNoctis 10 months ago
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scumgod13 10 months ago
@AduroNoctis Unless you buy a gun, register it, get a set of balls and gun the son of a bitch down yourself.
I wish more people thought like this guy.
scumgod13 10 months ago
@scumgod13 Amen. Besides, how many run-ins with mugging crackheads have you had recently?
KillerCracker69 10 months ago
@AduroNoctis
Nice imagination, the policeman would probably be too busy giving the guy in car a speeding ticket.
NorthCitySider 9 months ago
"Fuck that rat, I never liked him anyway." LMAO!! I get what your saying, but damn that was funny.
KalimbaJakenjuwha 11 months ago
because the video was talking about politics and power in da US , i surely dont mean every sinlge jew im thw world
abusundah 11 months ago
you are trusting Jews.
abusundah 11 months ago
@abusundah Heeey, abusundah, didn't expect to see you here.
So your "moderatism" within islam isn't really moderatism at all, huh? Since you distrust jews and all...
You're actually a good example for how most of the public muslim figures are. You don't like jews, you don't see that islam is about killing non-believers instead of spreading your religion peacefully (there are actually some parts that are about this, but they directly contradict the other parts where murder is okay.. whoops).
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@Squiglypig Actually , I dont heat all Jews , I just distrust those who have the power , I mean american Jews who are the decision maker in the US government , their support of Israel in the UN ,supplying high tech weapons tho Israel to murder Palestinians , The Mossad committing assassination on public without any body saying no .
I like Jews who want peace with the Palestinians , I like those who believe that Wars are no good and not a way to get more money and power .
abusundah 11 months ago
@abusundah But by saying "You're trusting jews" you're not making that clear in any way AND you're generalizing.
Squiglypig 11 months ago
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@Squiglypig because the video was talking about politics and power in da US , i surely dont mean every sinlge jew im thw world
abusundah 11 months ago
Whoo! Anarchy! Let's go down to the Cinema! FREE MOVIES!
rabbitlove4ever 11 months ago
Act all self-righteous you want, TJ, and rant about the "oppression" in this country, but I think perspective is required in this instance.
I've read Kozol. I've read several books about the evils of people with political power and intentional impoverishing of certain sects of citizens. I don't deny it. I can't.
However, this does not change the fact that we have more freedom in this country than in any other, and the government hasn't killed us all despite its capability.
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew More freedom than any other?
Since when did you get a pat-down in a Danish airport?
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
How does that impinge upon your freedom?
Upset that you can't bring poison gas or a nuclear explosive on an airplane?
You CHOSE to fly on an airline. That includes consenting to all searches. Try reading the forms next time you buy a ticket.
This is probably the worst way to make a point. In fact, if anything you strengthened my assertion...consent must be given (through a waiver) for the airline to examine a bag they are charged with transporting!
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew My freedom to NOT have my junk touched by someone else without my strict permission. Thank you very much.
Ah, so let's say you live in NK, YOU CHOOSE to stay there. So you actually do want to be restricted in an incredible many ways.
Thanks for strengthening my assertion.
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
NK? What?
When you buy an airline ticket, you give your consent to have your stuff (and yourself) examined. Just because you choose not to read things doesn't mean the agreement isn't there.
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew NK = North Korea.
It's not about whether or not you choose to take an airplane out of the country or just from one city another city inside the same country, it's about WHAT they demand of you.
If the norm for airflight travel was that you would be sodomized and if you didn't want to be sodomized you couldn't go, wouldn't you find that an infringement?
Speaking figureatively here, but you never know if you'd be able to see that or not.
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
If you don't like people touching your stuff, then don't fly. They clearly outline the demands when you buy an airline ticket. READ.
Sodomy, as a crime, is a violent felony. Looking in someone else's suitcase isn't even a misdemeanor...it's a civil case, if anything at all.
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew Wow.. Submit yourself to authority. Why don't you just roll over and lick their boots?
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
Really? Really? Grow the fuck up.
If you're too lazy to read the lines during purchases that detail your consent to searching, you only have yourself to blame.
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew And if you would actually read my fucking comments instead of doing exactly what I thought you would, then this would be much easier.
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
What, so you think airlines should just let whomever on board planes carrying whatever and damn the consequences?
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew Where did I say that?
Where did I say that?
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
It's called a "question."
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew It's called an "assumption".
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
I'm not sure what you're getting at. I asked a question and you're throwing a tantrum.
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew I never said that they should be able to take anything they want on board an aircraft.
You didn't read my comment where I talked about what you technically would accept them doing, or else you would have understood what the fuck I said.
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
I understood perfectly. Airlines could absolutely put "consent for sodomy" on their airline tickets if there weren't laws against it. But then no one would fly and they would go out of business.
There's national security, and there's you being a dickhead.
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew So it's incredibly safe for the nation to touch my penis because I might be an extremist with a very dangerous piece of "equipment" between my legs.
Yeah..
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
If you signed a piece of paper that said "TSA CAN TOUCH MY PENIS," why the hell would you whine about it?
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew Same thing applies to a piece of paper that stated that you had to have a butt-plug on during the entire flight.
Why the hell would you complain about it if you signed it? BECAUSE I HAVE TO HAVE A FUCKING BUTT-PLUG ON!
BECAUSE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO TOUCH MY JUNK! If anyone else did it it would be considered a "bad touch", but nope, this is for 'MERICUH!
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@Squiglypig lol, youtube argments, but I'd still have to agree w/ squiglypig
cloudu8 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
If you're going to bitch this much about someone checking for explosives in your suitcase, then I suggest not flying an airplane. You don't need to fly on an airplane to survive.
I seriously don't understand how you can object to something you clearly consent to have performed. Get over yourself.
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew Again, "Clearly consent"..
And AGAIN with the assumptions. Wtf?!
I never said that they shouldn't check my luggage, but touching my penis isn't exactly like putting my suit case through an x-ray.
And would you, or would you not object to being forced to wear a butt-plug through the whole journey just to be sure that you haven't hidden any explosives inside your rectum? After all, if you want to fly you HAVE to have the butt-plug.
Hell, it'll probably be the next step.
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
Dude, when you buy an airline ticket, your signature (or the box you check online) confirms that you CLEARLY understand your express consent to all searches, including your favorite...the penis-touch.
I would only object to wearing a buttplug if I hadn't signed a fucking legal document that consented to placement of said butt plug. It's your own damn fault if you don't read.
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew "It's your own damn fault" So what if there's extra-fine print that says that they can fuck your house and take your dog? Ahhh what freedoms they have.
You're not getting one single fucking thing I'm saying.
I'm not only talking about airplane tickets here, but obviously you get too excited about having someone actually touch your pen0r that you can't see that.
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
It's OUR freedom...which means we can waive said freedoms. Read the fucking fine print and you won't look like an ass.
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew I'll quote a very wise man here: "He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither".
So go ahead, just pull your trousers down when in line instead, that saves the people some time.
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
Sounds like a man who has never been in any kind of peril.
if you don't want to "sacrifice your freedom," then I suggest not signing it away. What do you have to complain about?
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew I suggest that you actually look up that quote..
You have no fucking idea who said that, huh? "Never been in any kind of peril"... Yeah right!
So you actually want to sacrifice your "precious" (in quotations because you obviously don't give a rat's ass(in parantheses because you obviously can't understand even less than subtle hints)) freedom, because you're afraid of an enemy that can't do any actual damage to you.
Hooray, you're paranoid. Congratulations.
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
Are you always this bitchy, or is it just that time of the month?
Seriously, what the fuck are you so pissed off about?
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew I'm pissed off at the fact that people are doing something which would otherwise be considered illegal, just cause of 'MERICUH!
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
Consent makes everything legal, regardless of what country you're in.
Last I checked, England and Sweden didn't have their fucking planes hijacked and flown through skyscrapers. In case you didn't notice. I hated the Patriot Act, too, but excuse me for caring about my family.
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew Aha, so what you said about sodomy is bullshit.
I guess that if I can make you sign a document that says that I'm allowed to kill you, that I'm allowed to kill you.
Is that how it is? Wow. That's some weird shit right there!
Yeah. Blame your presidents for not thinking things through on that one. It's been what.. almost 10 years and things have escalated in security, but NOT in terrorism.
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
"things have escalated in security, but NOT in terrorism."
Read the damn news. This is only because we've STOPPED terrorist attacks due to security. And actually, security has backed off with the exception of TSA. Quit fucking whining and be glad you live in a country that actually lets you whine in a public forum. It's something we take for granted.
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew Yeah. I should just shut up and be happy that I have the choice to whine and bitch, but that I shouldn't actually USE that freedom that I have, because then it would just be a mess.
That's not a freedom.
Now go and help take someone's freedoms away somewhere else.
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
Okay, so you're bitching because you have the freedom to bitch and want to use it ad nauseum. Don't let me stop you. Forgive me for thinking you were trying be something other than obnoxious.
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew
Sounds like you're one of those assholes who just won't shut up about "injustice" and "oppression," and when someone tells you to give it a rest, you get in their face about how they're taking away your freedom.
You probably need a punch in the face. I would gladly accept an arrest and a misdemeanor on my record if it made you less of a dickhead.
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew What if I signed a document that stated that you were allowed? Would that help?
Ass.
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew I'm not being obnoxious, I'm just saying that they shouldn't have the right to fucking touch my junk every time I want to take a plane in the US.
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
If you're going to whine about getting wet, then stay out of the pool. The airline doesn't have the right to touch your junk unless YOU give it to them.
"He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither".
Fine, let's take down all borders and dissolve the military. Erase the entire defense budget. Eliminate taxes, therefore dissolving the police force, fire departments, hospitals, and laws. After all, that's all security we got through sacrifice of monetary freedom.
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew I like the cut of your jib.
Finaly you're getting it. Moron.
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
If you didn't read the news, there WAS an underwear bomber in this country in the past year. If TSA didn't check your sensitive regions, terrorists would undoubtedly smuggle things by placing them in those regions. It's just common sense.
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew And we have x-ray because...?
I mean, I'd rather have them use that thing that can scan to just my skin rather than having them man-handling my penis.
And yes, you're finaly getting it.
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
If you bothered to understand the new TSA shit, they only do the full pat-down if you refuse the x-ray, and people DO refuse the x-ray for some reason. They also do random once-overs with the wand.
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew I still find it despicable that they can grab my dick because it might be a different kind of weapon that what it normally is.
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
Despicable? Maybe. Illegal? No, because you consented to the search.
Let's go through the process:
- I am a terrorist and put a block of C4 in my underpants by my junk
- I refuse the x-ray
- I am given the pat-down, but they can't touch my junk because Squiglypig finds it offensive.
Now I'm granted access to a plane with a block of C4 in my pants. That's secure. Too easy.
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew So why haven't they implemented the butt-plug yet? After all, you could be hiding C4 literally up your ass.
WE'RE NOT SECURE ENOUGH! PEOPLE NEED TO HAVE BUTT-PLUGS ON WHILE THEY FLY!!!
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
No explosive exists that is potent enough to do significant damage with the amount of mass that can fit in the rectum.
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew You'd be surprised by how much you can fit inside a rectum.
How do you think the buttplugs work? Even a small piece of C4 double the size of a normal grape would be enough to shatter a plane's hull. Bye bye plane. WHEN WILL THEY SAVE US FROM THIS TERRORIST THREAT!!!?
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
You DO realize that these searches are mostly a deterrent, right?
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew I don't agree with the sentiment that people should be punised so they don't commit crimes.
It's actually quite illogical to punish people so they DON'T commit crimes.
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
Getting your dick grabbed isn't a punishment if you agree to have it done.
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew How come you think that "Sign a document that says that they can do it" = "Oh yeah! Turn on the Barry White music!"?
Are you that stupid?
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
If I asked if I could punch you and you said "yes, you are allowed to punch me" (without sarcasm) and I slugged you in the jaw, why would you feel the need to complain? You brought it upon yourself!
Ben Franklin didn't actually fight in the war, if I recall, and the important part of that comment was the absence of weapons of mass destruction. Franklin's quote was directly targeted towards Loyalists who sided with England because they appeared to be invincible.
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew There's still laws against it. If you asked me if you could shoot me, and I said yes. You would then proceed to shoot me and end up in jail with a charge for attempted homicide (or homicide, depending on where you shot me).
I guess the "Well he agreed to it" doesn't mean a SHIT, huh?
And why did that German dude still get jailed for cannibalism? He had proof that the "victim" had agreed to it.
Whoops, demolished your argument. Sorry about that.
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
Grabbing someone's dick isn't a violent felony.
Intent is also a significant part of crime. When the TSA guy grabs your dick, he is (usually) in the process of checking for weapons or other illegal items. The intent is to provide security for you and other passengers. If you know anything about law, you know that there comes a time when personal privacy is outweighed by the public good.
"You're not allowed to tackle full-on in football."
Yes, you are. I don't know what you mean.
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew yet you are still giving up your privacy always privacy for security is never the answer
nibbers97 10 months ago
@Squiglypig
I don't find it illogical at all. The search is a price you pay for your safety, the safety of the other people on the flight, and the service the airline provides.
Ben Franklin was a genius of a man, but he was no soldier. He also didn't live in a time period where pointless terrorism was rampant and weapons of mass destruction existed.
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew Oh yeah, because Ben Franklin wasn't instrumental a certain war against a vastly superior power that was fought some 300 years ago.
Hell, I don't even know why I mentioned him, really.
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
Better example:
If I tackled you on the street, you would be well within my rights to object and knock me through a window.
However, if I tackled you during a game of football, you would have no right to object because you agreed to the rules of football when you entered the game.
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew You're not allowed to tackle full-on in football. Get your head out of your ass.
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
You're freaking out over a slippery slope that doesn't exist.
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
And that last facetious comment of mine means I'm "getting it?" Please tell me you're not a typical anarchist.
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew
*except when minors are involved. Then consent means shit.
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew I'm also kinda pissed about minors being taken away from their parents while they're waiting for their flights. Why? Because they share the same name as someone on the terror watch list. Yep, some REALLY intelligent people are working there.
A 5 year old is CLEARLY involved with the taliban.
Squiglypig 11 months ago
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@Squiglypig
"A 5 year old is CLEARLY involved with the taliban."
When does this happen?
"But people have a right to bear arms. So why doesn't everyone have a set of bear arms?"
What?
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew Of course, "Allowed to kill you" is meant in a figurative way, expressing how I can do WHATEVER to WHOEVER as long as they have signed a document that says that I have their permission.
Squiglypig 11 months ago
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@Squiglypig
"I guess that if I can make you sign a document that says that I'm allowed to kill you, that I'm allowed to kill you."
That doesn't have to be figurative. Assisted suicide is legal in some states.
"WHATEVER to WHOEVER as long as they have signed a document that says that I have their permission."
Why is this bad?
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew AND I'm pissed off that people like you just are like dogs that they can kick and yell at all day long AND IT LIKING IT.
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew I like that you said "We can waive said freedoms" because that just shows how little you really think about having the freedom NOT TO HAVE YOUR FUCKING PENIS GRABBED. Note how it's basically just the US doing this. England? No crotch-grabbin' there. Sweden? They don't do it either.
Huh..
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
You're not entitled to a flight on an airplane. That's not a Constitutional right.
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@TheZooCrew But people have a right to bear arms. So why doesn't everyone have a set of bear arms? It's a right! They SHOULD have it!
Squiglypig 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
And for the record, you wouldn't be the first terrorist to smuggle explosives in your underpants.
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
No one chooses to stay in North Korea. They aren't allowed to leave. Why would you ever compare this country to North Korea?
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
@Squiglypig
When you ride a rollercoaster, there are signs that inform riders that they ride at their own risk. You have the freedom to ride, but you must accept the consequences.
TheZooCrew 11 months ago
I agree with what you say, but there's nothing we can do to not let that snake live. At least nothing I can think of.
SinbladeZen 11 months ago
@SinbladeZen Well, for one thing you can learn where the power emanates. It emanates from you. Your consent. Not in some abstract way, but literally, in statute, your consent is required for enforcement (legitimate enforcement that is). Sound crazy? It's not. It's well hidden and the "reputable" media reinforces the idea of "government is God" continually to keep you from questioning its power. Power is not Authority.
VerifiedNews 11 months ago
@SinbladeZen There are two simple concepts to absorb:
A: "No state shall make any law impairing the obligations of contracts." (See constitution)
B: "Uniform Commercial Code" contract sections so you can actually see what's happening
Contract Forms: Aquiessence without objection, Obeying without condition, Paying without question, etc...
Second concept: You aren't a "person." All statutory laws apply to types of "persons" which are commercial Entities.
Your SS has a Legal Name
VerifiedNews 11 months ago
@SinbladeZen Think harder. There are many ways to rid our cage of it's snake..
Keinlicht 11 months ago
ARARCHY!?
theoneawsomone 1 year ago
Obedience to the jews is America's downfall.
DollaBiIIz 1 year ago
@DollaBiIIz Obedience to the idea that "obedience to the Jews is America's downfall" is America's downfall.
Mnuh.
SomeGuyFromCrowd 1 year ago
@DollaBiIIz I agree with you there. Mind you, obeying any religion will be Americas downfall. Thomas Pain, author of the Declaration of Independence, says that "There exists a wall of separation between church and state." America would do well to remember the ideas of its founding fathers.
Darthmas2242 11 months ago
The snake-rat metaphor only works if the people have no control over the army and the police. As long as they can vote, they do.
EnigmaticPhysicist 1 year ago
You have inspired me to write a story in which a benevolent dictator takes over a former US state and makes everything better, then returns power to the people and leaves. And everybody just thought it was the most surreal experience they ever had because they never expected a dictator that took power through force to actually have good intentions.
Jeshikun 1 year ago
Well said.
captainabrhamlincoln 1 year ago
i guess it like old saying love your country but fear your government
johndebbra 1 year ago
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Give me liberty or give me death...OOOh and Iphone.
TIKOMIX 1 year ago
the police IS your friend
what you complain about is your government's laws
rant over the government and not over the police whose sole job is to keep your ass from being mugged, robbed and murdered or at least help you find the guy/s who did it
schootingstarr 1 year ago
@schootingstarr Yes, the police who lock up people for doing things that are their own personal business. (like using drugs, using the services of a prostitute or being one, gambling, etc.) The countless officers who unlawfully take money as "evidence" and declare about half of it, if that. The police that arrest about 4 times the amount of minorities even though ALL races commit violent crimes at the same rate or at the very least hassle them baselessly. Congrats, you're a good little sheep.
OnionsMakeYouCry9 1 year ago
@OnionsMakeYouCry9
no, you've got a fucked up system there
if the law says: prostitution/drug abuse is illegal, then it's the fucking job of the police to arrest them. it's not up to the police to judge, it's their job to enforce the law.
and if your police there is corrupted, it's the fault of your system
corrupted systems offer opportunities and an open door may tempt a saint
congrats, you live in shithole
schootingstarr 1 year ago
@schootingstarr watch the videos of the "riots" at the G20 Summit and get back to me and try to say the police are your friend with a straight face.
OnionsMakeYouCry9 1 year ago
@OnionsMakeYouCry9 what did I say about the "fucked up system"?
if you let the government do this, it's not the police's fault
they're merely a tool to enforce the law
if the law is unjust, the police eventually is too
but nontheless: the police are just ppl, like you and me.
about the vid:
how would you feel if thousands of ppl gather, protesting, wearing masks and shouting at you?
these men are under extreme pressure. you are noone to judge 'em, unless you walked in their boots.
schootingstarr 1 year ago
@schootingstarr You're fucking pathetic. I have nothing more to say to you.
OnionsMakeYouCry9 1 year ago
@schootingstarr RETARD ALERT
helio5777 1 year ago
@schootingstarr l0lo.
Sarezh998 1 year ago
@schootingstarr
Your grammar only proves your stupidity.
MooooonDemon 1 year ago
@MooooonDemon making bad grammar an argument in a discussion proves YOUR stupidity
schootingstarr 1 year ago
@schootingstarr
No, it's actually a very legit thing to judge intelligence on.
Sorry that you're an idiot.
MooooonDemon 1 year ago
@MooooonDemon it would be if I was somewhere in an englishspeaking-area
since you assume everyone on youtube was born in that area (otherwise you wouldn't point out bad grammar), that makes you the idiot.
I would like to read a text in german from you, THEN we can talk about bad grammar
schootingstarr 1 year ago
you sound a bit like the TEA party ¬.¬
Happypast 1 year ago
@Happypast
Did you actually pay attention to what the Tea party says?
NorthCitySider 1 year ago
@NorthCitySider "a BIT like the tea party"
anyways... blahblahblah FREEDOM!!! Government = evil... and that's about all the similarities.
I'm not saying he's simply stupid but this anti-authoritarian paranoia won't lead to anything. I like that snake. Sure the snake should be questioned constantly so that the people don't let it do something terrible and getting away with it but to say that the snake shouldn't be alive in the first place is advocating anarchy. and come on. don't go there.
Happypast 1 year ago
@Happypast
You dumb fucking loser.
Look at the crazy shit that happened during the war, look at the lies, the deceit, the fraud, and the invasion of our privacy. And nothing seems to change no matter how much we protest.
NorthCitySider 1 year ago
@NorthCitySider your mom's a dumb fucking loser.
but yes. you're right. the government is an evil force, it's not like the authorities consists of human beings or something Nooooo, they're EVIL! they're SATAN! they want to hurt you for the sake of hurting you. We need FREEDOM! stop controling us! Anarchy! Like in the dark ages after the roman empire fell, destroy the estab