Piaget Experiments

[ciarao55]

you have to remember to ask "are they *same* OR does one have more?" if you ask only "which one has more?" you imply that one does have more; that is confusing language for the child.

[mefelicia]

The nodding of the head and verbal confirmations influenced the childs answers.

[happyxlolx]

This is interesting, and does reflect Piagets experiments. BUt you do prompt her alot?

[zimmawoman]

cute video, but i dont really think you did piagets experiment right. your questions suggested the right answer. instead of asking "do they still have the same amount?" you should have asked " does this one have more, does this one have more, or do they have the same amount?"

[jairoller4life]

this experiment clearly proves my hypothesis all children are insane!

[ricky887]

the child is adorable!

[PrinceszInLove]

kill her ^-^ She ruined your experiment

[AnEscapedMind]

Awesome video man...I've been wanting to do these experiments with kids, but I didn't have any kids available...good job.

[azncell05]

@ladyslove89 are you kidding me? the purpose of the experiment was expressed perfectly. the purpose of the experiment is to show that the cognitive developmental stage of 3 year olds cannot comprehend the idea of conservation.

[gasquetgoddess]

she answered correctly that the glasses had the same amount but one of the adults asked "which one has more?"

I think the experiment is null due to the third persons input.

[abcdenoerrors]

terrible. who taught these idiots to do an experiment?

[FrogFin]

@abcdenoerrors

yea man get out there and show them how it's done.

[Roziniahan]

too many leading Question

[FarynSand]

While agree that the researcher definitely interjected way too much in the experiments, just a note to those who commented specifically on the fact that they told her that the two rows of candy initially had the same amount, and that the two glasses initially had equal levels of water-for these Piaget experiments for conservation of number and volume, it is actually imperative that the child knows that the items/liquids are equal. It is the child's response to the "change" that is of importance.

[axe84]

shit, th woman in this experiment really didnt know what was going on! she probebly thought the test was for her! stupid

[sanguru]

I agree with the misleading questions, but I think there's an important not so obvious observation.

When the child is asked why one has more and she responds, "Because I like water" it shows the egocentric characteristic of Piaget's Preoperational stage. She still sees the world in how it relates to her.

Very cute though :)

[Lokussapiens]

her cells in brain are not fully grown :P When you as a child, learn to talk, are being given things and so on, of course you see the world "egocentric"? some even continue with that. Its learning. don't you see that all of this is from the environment and a developing organism?

[sanguru]

Yes, development is based largely on the world around us; why wouldn't it be? I was merely pointing out that while the video is attempting to show one aspect of Piaget's theories about age and spacial relationships, that there is another of Piaget's concepts that is ultimately displayed.

And the cells in her brain are pretty much all there, just all the axon connections haven't been made properly...

[Lokussapiens]

He thought this was a syncronical development, and is no more than observations of children exposed for about the same stimuli. The cause aspect is missing.

About the axon connections was a nice correction, then I have learnt more:) Then the nervesystem actually are made to make connections based on what the surroundings present?

[ShotokanKarateRules]

Leading questions. And the woman is answering for the child.

[ladyslove89]

thank you. their not really following the purpose of the experiment.

[ShotokanKarateRules]

@ladyslove89

I know. Demand characteristics.

Another psychologist, I can't remember the name, proved Piaget wrong. When "naughty teddy" messed up the smarties or counters, the child still knew there was the same amount in each row.

My brain feels like mush right now so I won't bother trying to sound intelligent. Maybe I'll post in a few days.

[ladyslove89]

Ok thanks. Also, sorry for that horrible mistake on grammar. they're****

[ShotokanKarateRules]

@ladyslove89

Lol, you're welcome. :)

[azncell05]

@ShotokanKarateRules i'd like to see the evidence that proved piaget wrong...

[ShotokanKarateRules]

I didn't mean "proved wrong" really, sorry, he just underestimated the children. Leading questions and demand characteristics. They asked children questions like "NOW how many are there?" making them think that something had changed, so the children would say what they wanted them to say. From this they concluded that children of this age lack conservation.

[ShotokanKarateRules]

Continued:

When the children were in a comfortable environment and "naughty teddy" came and messed up the counters, this was something the children could relate to, so they understood there was still the same amount of counters in each row.

[azncell05]

@ShotokanKarateRules Your not really getting the experiment at all. The purpose of Piaget's experiment is to show that children under 7 YEARS OLD are INCAPABLE of understanding the law of conservation. let me repeat that. THEY ARE INCAPABLE OF UNDERSTAND THE LAW OF CONSERVATION. You should try this with a kid if you can, its actually pretty funny.

[ShotokanKarateRules]

@azncell05

My point is that Piagets experiments can be criticised and that he underestimated the seven-year-old's ability to understand the law of conservation.

[JackBovine]

@azncell05

The purpose of the experiment is not to prove anything, it is to investigate. Being 7 years old, that is, taking y rides around the sun, does not make a person incapable of understanding. A pre-concrete child is incapable of understanding the what the words 'more' and 'bigger' mean. She correctly answered the question "which line of has more units of length between the first and last Smartie." The problem is not with perception, it is with the understanding of the language.

[ShotokanKarateRules]

@azncell05

I know that wasn't the best explanation ever.

[PabloOzuna]

next time try letting the kid anwser for herself

[pittsburghohyea]

I toatlly agree. i think the results would have been much more effective. The woman seems to interupt the little girl a little too much.

[pingupenguin]

I also did a school project like this and ran into the same problem - that children are smart! They will sense that something is going on, and will say what they think you want to hear. I completely messed up my primary experiment (that I thought was fool-proof) because of this error. But I did learn something!

[bluroptimo]

The woman was annoying and bad for science

[masterstghm]

The questioning wasn't neutral, as many people already said!

[mealz313]

yeah talk about unfair testing, she was leading the little girl.

[persona19]

I don't even know if the child understood if the water in the two glasses was equal to begin with, they just answer for her.

[boredtodeath88]

the chick kept on implying answers, when she told the girl at the beginning "they have the same number right"

[salmahb]

hoow sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee­eeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!

[SriAgustiani]

Children have naturally math and inner beauty. They would do the right thing while the adult don't. Why? Because they are kids. When you were kids you needn't learn. sounds complicated, right?

[masterstghm]

You are wrong.

[caramunda]

However, it has lower ecological validity. Kids perform much better in more 'natural' settings-in more life-like situations. Try to do the same'water' experiment like this: Take two identical glasses and crack or chip one of them lightly. Poor the same amount of water in and ask your child if there is the same amount of water. When the child agrees, tell to your child 'Oh No, this one is cracked lets poor the water in the new glass' (of course wider or taller)then, ask your child again.

[MJCastellanos]

simple yet such amazing experiments of how the mind works when were at such a young age.

[mohdhebili]

though it seems so confusing but it supports the theory of Piaget .........interesting

[volades]

If Piaget lives , sure he will very happy about this videos.

[blueangelarts]

we do the same in Piaget art and dance training, we ask them to judge and describe often.

[elshalif]

Maybe she's more correct in judging than we all are...

[tomazzin]

loved her answer!

[sneech2]

That's so interesting because I've never seen a kid choose the short fat glass. They usually say that the tall skinny glass has more water, but I guess it depends on the child's experience with what constitutes "bigger." It still demonstrates preoperational thought very well.

And I know you don't know who I am, but I was just browsing Youtube for "Piaget" and I came across your video.

[DaFloFromme]

I wouldn't that's true, sometimes kids choose the smaler glas and say it's more spaced out, especially in the, sorry but I just know the german word "präoperativen Phase".

ps: I know my english sucks but I'm German ;)

[caramunda]

pre-operational stage

[boredtodeath88]

yeah maybe she judged on how wide the short glass was

[STHsuperMovies07]

But they asked for the amount of water not the width. It was the same amount of water in both.

[boredtodeath88]

yeah, but she thought the short glass had more water because it was wider, its just interesting because usually kids in this stage pick the tall glass instead of the short one. also the woman in the video has some influence because she keeps making comments that will lead the girl to choose what the woman wants not what the little girl thinks its the answer.

[STHsuperMovies07]

I agree I thought children would pick the taller glass when I first heard of the experiment, but my psychology teacher told me otherwise. And that women didn't seem to influence the child. When the child pointed to the row of smarties she didn't answer because she was unsure. The women seemed to influence her to say it was right. (At least thats what I think). When watching it again I heard the child say that the glasses of water was the same amount, but she changed her mind.

[boredtodeath88]

yeah we did this experiment in my class, and the child was 7, and he kept saying that they didnt have the same amount of water, even though it was like one millimeter of difference in the glasses, so we had to measure it, and put some more water, hahaha it was funny

[Lokussapiens]

yes, and this is how children are being brought up in school based on piaget and vygotskis theories. Someone (or trials to criterion), must learn the child to differ, limited by not developed cells and experience. Choose the most necessary stimuli wisely- is it a prerequisite to the necessary skill intended? :=)