IN THE WORLD OF JACK THE RIPPER (History Channel, 2008) Part Two

[celticlofts]

The murder of Eddowes was the breakthrough in this case. The cops should had deduced that he didn't care about being caught and secondly he didn't live locally. The savagery of his attacks and his mental state would have driven his desire to kill more often had he lived locally. So what kept him away from women and Whitechapel? My guess he worked where women didn't work and where he was a away a lot of the time.. Our boy worked on a ship.

[GuildfordGhost]

@celticlofts That's your opinion, which is contrary (in part) to most historians. If you're an advocate of Marriott's CF tale, I can tell you the man knows little and states a great deal of proven nonsense as fact. His suspect was not even known to have been in England after the 1870s. I'm not dismissing your views as to his employ, but I'm saying you shouldn't be taken in by a loose cannon (if, indeed, that is the case).

[celticlofts]

@GuildfordGhost: My own opinion is just as valid as anyone elses at this stage of the game. We'll never know for sure who committed those murders and my guess is we'll never see anyone standing in a court of law accused of them either :-)

[GuildfordGhost]

@celticlofts With all due respect, opinions are only as valid as the sources which inform them.

[PianoLove1968]

@GuildfordGhost What CF tale? Sounds interesting. I can tell you have read a lot on this case.

[celticlofts]

"He killed twice in one month" No he killed three times in one month. Chapman on the 8th, Stride on the 30th and Eddows also on the 30th. All in September 1888.

[GuildfordGhost]

@celticlofts Indeed. Schoolboy error on their part, but they may have meant (and I'm sure they did, badly phrased) two DATES in September.

[nickh1974]

@GuildfordGhost

On the double event murders, Lindsay says that Jack made a conscious decision to cross the invicible boundary from the Met Police area to The City Police area to confuse his persuers. Would you agree that this suggests that Jack was indeed a cunning and therefore intelligent man as your average EastEnder would not have had the brains to think that way thus eliminating suspects such as Kosminksi etc. He must have been an outsider who knew the well.

BTW Lindsay is a sort! Agree?!

[GuildfordGhost]

@nickh1974 No. This is Lindsay's unique opinion and not one I've ever heard from anyone else in the field.

[ghostdivision7]

@PandaMan724

I guess he commited those murders, because he was a serial murder. These guys get a seksual thrill of doeing these things. Also these persons are often women haters and what ia more easy target than a prostitute?

[superglens67]

do you think liz stride was a ripper victim,dutfields yard was an entrance to a very raucous socialist club,he would have been taking a hell of a risk to murder ,mutilate a victim in such a busy area,just a thought

[GuildfordGhost]

@superglens67 Hi. The Stride question comes more from the witness statements of the possible assailant and the fact she only had her throat cut. I personally think she IS a Ripper victim. The location was even less risky than 29 Hanbury Street or George Yard Buildings, both of which were overlooked by many windows. That rage and urge will make consideration of personal security almost irrelevant.

[mariemcvie]

@superglens67: Liz Stride was indeed a Ripper victim. Jack the Ripper couldn't complete his work with her because he was interrupted. 30-40 minutes later Catherine Eddowes dies and her body was slashed to kingdom come, down the middle from throat to groin and from groin to knee. He took out her left kidney and her uterus. This is seen as the "double event."

[latehare1]

If you close your eyes, the bloke with the beard sounds like David Cameron.

[TheGudZeBadAnDaFozzy]

With Elisabeth Stride's photo, was that taken at the morgue or at the scene, coz the floor around her doesn't look like it would be the morgue

[GuildfordGhost]

@TheGudZeBadAnDaFozzy Liz Stride's photo was taken at St George In The East mortuary off Cannon Street Road on 1st October 1888. The building still stands, and I have film of it on my account. We don't really know if, in this instance, she was flat on a slab or propped against a wall (as Catherine Eddowes had been at Golden Lane mortuary the same day).