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@UrbanLamer It's a little different. The guitar uses a variation in magnetic field due to the metal string over a fixed coil. This setup uses a moving permanent magnet whose field cuts through coil as it moves, producing electricity. You won't be generating electricity in any quantity with an electric guitar, as it is. Magnetize the string and things will be different.
Great videos on Alternative Energy.... We just posted our three-part video covering the installation of wind turbines in New York City's East River. Do you have more projects in the works?
Tried building one of these back in school, 20 years ago ... noisy as all hell it was and not all that efficient ... but still pretty fun to play around with.
Could this have hydrodynamic applications. I'm wondering if there is a way to allow water passage through rivers and still be effective or is a specified flutter of air that would negate fluid applications.
The title is: New Wind Power - The Wind Belt Invention
To answer your question It seems pretty obvious that this does not have blades, nor turbines therefore that is how this is different from what you normally see in relation to wind power... and yes, it still uses the wind, hence "The Wind Belt". Wind is monetarily free energy. Make a device to harness the wind making the wind your fuel source and you never have to pay for wind, hence monetarily free energy.
@GlobalAwareness2525 Ya... ok.... you didn't get it. Free energy is also with the curent wind mills and turbines and everything. It uses the wind... which is free as you said.
What i'm saying is to what this wind belt is better than the old wind turbine? Does it give more power? Is it cheaper to constract? Does it look better? What? Cause i don't see any diference since both of this use the same thing, wind... which is free. Get it?
@superasg3 The creator's goal to replace kerosene lighting that's used in developing countries In his finding is turbines don't scale down to> 100 W well. He wanted to develop something that could B construct&repaired by the people who use them inexpensively In terms of micro power a couple LEDs small radio, charge cell pone Yes this should be better But I' not reading where the device is making inroad where it was intended to do so
Interesting stuff I got my own patent done cheaper with the help of the patentease software and the Patent it Yourself book - both cost me less than $400
I remember doing this with elastic bands as a kid, where you hold it out of the window of a moving car. I think the wind speeds needed for this to be practical would be too high.
what were your previous experiments like before this one? does the oscillations various the output? how many sq ft of material is needed to power large appliances?
I think you guys are getting way ahead of yourselves. No one is saying that this can be implemented in large-scale operations.
From my perspective, his intent was to invent a tool which was cheap, easy to build, accessible and easily implemented to solve a basic need in the "developing" world.
As far as i'm concerned, the invention is by far more viable and applicable in that sense.
@malaka135 Wow what a great idea! I bet nobody has thought of that before. Everyone must be an idiot except for you. All these years they have spent connecting all their fancy equipment to all sorts of energy sources, when all they needed to do was connect their two most basic bits of equipment together ! Once you've finished this invention you can start on the bootstrap levitation machine. Just bend down, grab you laces and lift.
This is brillant, while it might not be efficent on a large scale application ie. large fields of them in iowa, it could be used to make things we use everyday more efficent say in heating and cooling ducts in homes exhaust ventalation in factories.
@Indochronic1 Yeah OK then. So you go to all the trouble of making you venting smooth to reduce friction losses then you line them with fluttering bits of plastic creating horrendous friction losses that give back maybe 10% of the energy they take. Smart.
if one will power a radio thats imperssive, say with a little r and d you could get 10 watss out of 1 band you could put 100 bands in your duct work. 10 watts X 100 bands = 1000 watts of extra power . you will probaly never reach a unity of power on anything. engineered correctly you could have very little drag on vent system. too bad there was music in vid couldnt tell if it was noisey , but that could be tuned out by changing length and tension of band.
heat and air are a huge peice of the power consumtion pie. and combine with other power generation like vertical wind turbines (the cylinder ones so you dont have to have extra height for spinning blades) along the peak of yer roof and solar pannels on the roof for power and heating of water. we must widen our range of thought we must make things more efficent and use all the options. when it sunny usually less wind rainy/cloudy more wind we must use it all.
Well, well this quite a twist I really like what ya got here because of it's hyper sensitivity to air flow and it's linear design I see this device being applied to motor vehicles prehaps behind the grill or maybe the rear spoiler area to power up on board batterys or drive HHO generators.keep on plugging away kid ya got something here...
That's highly unlikely. There is always a loss of energy.
Even in motors powered by permanent magnets with an outside electrical current assist which only appears to be overunity is still drawing force from the magnets so even at that it may be highly efficient but not overunity & not perpetual according to dictionary terms but I do encourage people to always reach for the "impossible".
Why does it always have to be lost? I agree that in this case it certainly does lose energy. We haven't yet found the solution to multiply the energy used for input. It really shouldn't be that hard of a problem and when the solution is found I believe it will be elegant and simple. I believe it is possible to achieve higher output than input once we find the right combination of converting forms of energy and materials to use.
It always has to be lost given the publicly known methods presently used but here is a thought:
If you study the increase in battery efficiency (or capacitors as batteries) along with the increased efficiency of electric permanent magnet motors along with increased efficiency of let's say a windmill generator, in which all continue to increase in efficiency could they ever overlap where the motor is so efficient that the generator produces overunity? Many say no, I say maybe.
Furthermore, for the nay sayers, why does it have to be overuinity? Why not an highly efficient system that draws it's energy from the subtle energies of the earth's static electricity or from the earth's magnetic fields? Look up computer systems of the 1960s. Your cell phone has10 X the processing power of all of the 1960s CIA computers combined. To process what you do daily on your phone in 1960 would require an entire power plant...
Look at what is happening with lighting. The florescent bulb is far more efficient than the incandescent bulb, the LED is far more efficient than the florescent & this trend will not stop. There will someday be another source of illumination beyond the LED & in another 100yrs a source beyond even that & each new illumination device will be ever more efficient, where starlight will power night solar to illuminate your home, it's the evolution of technology...
We are still not talking about overunity here but highly efficient devices that require tiny subtle energies to power what we use today which presently requires huge power plants but once mankind reaches that level of technology then who really needs overunity? but reaching that threshold could bring the same achievements of 1st flight or Mach 1 to then discover an unimaginable technology that could cross the energy barrier into overunity...
Keyword being, unimaginable technology. You can't even imagine it just as ancient man could never imagine the way we live today. If ancient man visited our time then went back he would describe us as God's who sweep across the landscape & the heavens on magic carpets, we live in small castles more comfortable than Kings & too many magical devices to comprehend where people live inside boxes (tv) & small boxes that fit in the palm of your hand. We live in magical times...
Just as our world would not even be considered science by ancient man but pure magic, then so will earth's people in 2000 yrs seem to be pure magic to us even if viewed by all of the top scientists of today. In the year 4011 man will look back at us & laugh at all we didn't know viewing us as knuckle dragging neanderthals & wonder how we never blew up the entire planet with our extreme ignorance.
Yes, I know, but as long as you live on the surface of this planet & have no control over what corporations or government does then you have no choice, we will all suffer the same fate. Additionally as long as you or I drive a car or take a bus we all contribute to the hazards of oil. & because we NEED oil our Nation steals it (see Economic Hitman) our nation murders for oil in the name of peace. Someday the wrath of Nations will rain down on America. it's inevitable.
@FreeGlobalEnergy Yep, some truth in there, a good bit of truth. I was born in the Europe in the Mid sixties, and I soon realized just how incredibly lucky I was, quite an unusual state of mind I think, lol. Anyhow, I keep my consumption well down, and I have done a good bit for various Green causes. Many others have done much more than me. I have earned not to be included in 'we' ,and 'us'- thats my reward. lol. apart from ending my life I can do little more.
@FreeGlobalEnergy ... I would, not worry about jews and Christians too much, and concentrate on avoiding the causes of what you have outlined. IIf wars happen, try not to be route cause of them, as you know. So eat less, or no meat, walk, bus, cycle, low energy technology, and one child. Plant trees... spread some common sense, lots. We need renuable energy yesterday, but oil/ arms in politics are opposed to it. Good luck, and do what you can.
@AeonicMedia Living in China is not an issue. If i was to start a family, then it would be by adopting one of the millions of unwantd children in th world. Theres a good a few in the Ukraine- deformed after the accident. China also has many unwanted Girls, thats for sure. If neclear war happens, then there is nothing you can do.-stop worrying.
@AeonicMedia ... Over ther past decades there has been a steady increase in how people perceive their own importance. There are a good few reasons for that. This is not a problem until they find themselves in a situation where their lives are not coming up to their new and often unrealistic expectations. I find the prospect of Millions of unsatissfied narcissists very frightening. This is I feel a fundimental danger. I remain happily unimportant. lol
@mcwolfus I presented a series on how Christian evangelists were attempting to force Armageddon because per their belief system they think they can speed up the returning of Christ. An Atheist said they do not effect him because he does not believe in heaven or hell. I stressed to him it does not matter what his belief & that if he is caught in the nuclear cross fire of a religious endeavor then he & all of us will suffer. People should pay close attention to the Christian/Jewish power structure
Researchers at Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico have developed an environmentally friendly engine with no moving parts that is powered by sound waves.
Built on the principle of a 19th century pump invented by Robert Stirling, who discovered that cooling and heating gases could drive a piston, the thermoacoustic Stirling heat engine produces sound from heated helium within the engine. The sound waves then drive a piston which in turn generates electricity.
Very interesting...Would be interesting to see how many individual belts could be stacked and the output increased many fold. May be a good idea for a restricted area's where a regular configuration would not work or be allowed.
@56tony1 Maybe mount a rack of these devices on the grill of a car, right in front of the radiator? There'd be no more drag there than with a regular grill.
the Vibrating string causes a disturbance on the Magnetic field,
of the PERMANENTLY fixed Magnet in the middle of the coil.
in FACT, by mounting the magnets on the coils and using a thin Steel strap you can get better efficiency as YOU DONT have to move the mass of the magnets back and forth. only DRAG the magnetic FIELD across the conductors.
interresting basic concept. could result in "micro harvesting" fences. but i doubt its cost efficient with copper coils. printable piezo-like films might be the better choice here.
So............ it is harmonic oscillation?? the main thing in this generator is that the flexible turbine thingy should be able to survive harsh wind speeds....... interesting :D
lots of smart-asses on here and equally alot of ignorance. this idea does work but needs some work but then wilbur and orville never flew the very first time they got the idea, and how many times did edison invent the lightbulb before he got one that worked. if you aint got nothing to say except negative comments go someplace else
yeah the effiency is showed in the video fan is plugged in to the wall and all it can power is val clock c'mon. And yeah i understant it's "invented" for free wind energy but I don't think this would power entire town because the payload will be poor making this larger
@Dodexas What the inventor had in mind were poor countries where maybe they want to charge a battery to run a radio or a light bulb at night. It's really cheap to build as to where solar panels are very expensive even in the US & way out of reach for people in other countries who may earn $3 per day.
I see no large industrial use for these as they would be way too noisy, but then so are windmills. People who live near windmills complain of the constant motor humm,this flutter would be maddening
great machine . good to see someone is thinking out side of the box . could you atatch this device to the leading edge of a windmill blade perhaps? it should boost the out put of the blade quite well.
I could think of many places of use but for know an object that helps us get around ""car" could be best suited for recharging the battery, almost for ever!
I agree. It would be SUPER LOUD! If anyone has ever strapped a ladder down to a truck and hit the highway they know what I'm talking about. This would just be WAY too loud, and it loses all of it's momentum everytime it stops where a spinning blade never does.
i'm wondering, wouldn't it be more efficient to put a coil in the lenght in the middle as you get the most travel of the string tthere. otherwise seems like i good idea but is it more efficient than a turbine? and wouldn't that flutter thing need to have wind moving at a very paricular speed?
Yes, good observation. I imagine that a middle coil could be accomplished with enough ingenuity.
referring to the efficiency. Flutter is accomplished with far less wind than a turbine but turbine motors vary, some have ball bearings & others have magnetic floating bearings which operate with less wind but the motors easily overheat & burn up with speed so compare cost & reliability of each unit, turbine vs super cheap wind belt
@lolerdelol In theory it would be more efficient: but the problem is that the string that vibrates due to the wind probably won't vibrate very regularly because of the wind-distorting magnet attached to it.
Besides that, I wouldn't be surprised if a faster moving magnet would cause more friction because of induction, which would make regular vibration difficult.
you have a point..but i think..the reason why it is in the end of the belt is that..you'll produce more current because of its frequency...isn't that correct..??
more frequency equals more current thus producing more electricity..haha..
I think the answer is simple.......if you pray hard enough, Chuck Knorris can power your whole household and half your city block with the energy dissipated from one single round-house kick from him........
they do. but getting them down there is a very hard. the currents push the turbines around so sometimes it lands on its side or tips over. look it up. there are many places that use it.
chopppacalamari, lunar power generators already exist. However, it's the same thing like with all non-fossile fuels: These will come, when the last drop oil will have been sold and our atmosphere will have turned into a venusian like.
This has nothing to do with piezo crystals, thats all faraday right there babeeee! lol. Wonderful concept for cell phone, torch, small appliance charging on a camp site!
That is in the absence of a stream and a pocket hydro turbine, (available in pieces to the clever at an Electronics store near you) In regards to the car comment I saw , conservation of energy people. adding wind harnasses to a moving vehicle causes drag reducing efficiency, it's a waste of energy.
@DukeHastMich The best way I have been thinking about charging with wind while driving is diverting some of the air that smashes into the grill of a car and then having an internal turbine type generator that scoops some of that resistance to be used as energy... Cars all have drag .. might as well make use of it.. not to mention all IC engines make heat , should make use of that too , roof tops and hoods make good spots for light weight solar panels
Imagine the noise it would produce! I mean people are complaining even when state-of-the-art wind turbine blades are being used. Imagine the complaining when this is being used. And not to mention the lack of efficiency, if you look at the device you would see that it only covers a very petite area relative to the amount windflow area.
Yeah that would be annoying, especially at night just as you doze off and the wind picks up... ZZZZZZZzzzzzzz WbWbWbWbWbWbWb
V V V V V V V v v v v v v
You might start to have nightmares that huge bees were flying you to their hive to make honey out of you... A kind of a red colored honey, then you wake up screaming.
This is supposed to be mounted outside then the wind makes it flutter, then add more units just like adding multiple wind mills.
This is far less costly than wind generators. It's design was intended to be more affordable for people in 3rd world countries who do not have the infrastructure we have here
Ill say one thing . I am an electrical engineer involved in Rand d and this is outside the box thinking. There are many ver small applications that added together could create free total power in a home or vehicle etc. This could be utilized in your flag outside your door for the doorbell and or outside lighting or just to lend to the other sources charging batteries for a grid free system. this is the type of thinking that will break the power barriers just keep pushing the barriers
Terribly efficiency. Think about all the energy dissipated in changing the direction of the belt and the mass of the attached parts. A turbine keeps its mass going in one direction, so more energy absorbed by the turbine blades goes to the generator/alternator.
Source: B.S. in aerospace engineering. A senior design team at my school tried optimizing a wind belt for maximum power, and got single digit watts. With tons of math and computer simulations. A similar span turbine? Hundreds.
@1253tech thatys pretty much how alternating current is made...well a crude representation anyway...i beleive they pass a wire between 2 magnets tho..but same idea.... the magnet obviously has a magnetic feild which imposes a current on the windings...the more windings the higher the voltage.....kindof how a trnsformer works..if you want to step 120v down to 12 volt you use that ratio...for ever 120 in the one winding you make 12 on the other
So is the next stage to develop a larger number of these integrated to each other to comeup with higher usable voltages or would supersizing the model for rooftops be next?
I did see an electric car with generators & fan blades attached but people tell me that the wind drag the fans create do not calculate to any kind of efficiency yet I have never seen anything demonstrated to know if that is true because it would matter as to which generator technology you are using such as ball bearing vs magnetic bearing. There are higher efficiency generators or motors than what is used as standard common place
Yes, I understand this. This device is to convert wind energy into electricity. Just like a windmill does.
But generators and be run as motors, so if you feed electricity INTO a wind turbine, you could have a big fan.
So I was thinking that, if instead of using the wind belt so make electricity from wind power, you instead were to feed electricity INTO the wind belt, you could use it as a fan.
I'm suggesting that it could do either, depending.
If you tried that with this particular set up it would not blow wind in any particular direction because the ribbon is too flexible & the flapping would likely cause a small breeze on both sides of the unit & I am not so sure this thing could flap fast enough or strong enough to do any good but could be I don't have your vision. The key to clever inventing is having a vision that nobody else has or capable of seeing. It is then up to you to make that vision happen. All ideas should be considered
I'm a bass player and thought about the 15" amp I use to create energy just from my hours of practicing. the comment you replied to would be this is... extremely low fq sounds. So, if you want to waste electricity by reversing the flow to this thing, you might as well go buy a bass guitar and rock out!
Very nice invention, I like your concept on "we all need each other" and it's very true we do. We all, or should I say most of us, have certain job skills that we partake in helping to keep things (economy) moving along. one way or another everything we do effects oneanother. Thank you for sharing this.
At anytime you were in school or college, had a question for the teacher or professor or even asked another student for information you did not know at the time did they always answer your question followed up by calling you a twit?
No one person can know all things. I can guaranty u yourself do not know all things, if u can't seem to finish building that nuclear reactor then ask a physicist why it's not functioning should he give u the answer followed up with "You twit"?
I suppose living life makes u realize u are not special. U may excel in some things but will lack in others. Someone who is an electronics genius may not be able to rebuild a car engine etc. We all need each other to make this world function.
Ogre is right: Movements of magnets through coils makes AC current. So let's get busy & make all cars, boats, & aircraft run on this current! Many UTubes show trivial small outputs - go to "Mag Amp Gen" series to see it power real scooter wheel.
well the point is the efficiency to use the WIND. you can more or less take the amount of energy you put INTO making the wind and compare to the amount of energy you TOOK from the wind to get the efficiency of the device. against real wind you dont know how much energy was used to make the wind, but from a fan you DO.
as for using it to charge a battery to run a light at night...thats just weak...you could just as easily use a candle and cheaper than buying a lightbulb and wind generator.
i would be more impressed if they hooked it to a voltimetre. why do none of these ever just plain out show you the ohm output. i dont care if you can light an led or power a radio, you are using 120v to power that fan, if you only produce 98v at equivalent amps you have 80% efficiency. i would never expect you to produce more than 120v, or even really more than 90% efficiency (considering how much voltage is lost just in powering the fan i shouldnt expect more than 90%) but show me the ohms
This was designed as a cheap way to replace the expensive wind generator. The fan is only used to simulate a windy day so please recalculate excluding the fan current.
The inventor had in mind people in poor countries who live in mud huts in windy locations could charge a battery in order to run a light at night. Wind generators & solar are more expensive than current we get here in America from coal & nuclear. If all Americans can't afford solar then neither can the poor countries.
Black Box" in series with he output seems a little questionable.
What differentates this unit from any of the thousand other power generation units shown on U-Tube? This was originally posted in 2007....and it looks like little to nothing has changed s far as development....lets at least see some 3rd party testing and validating of claims....but im not holding my breath.
Anytime you move a magnet through a coil, you will get electricity no matter what you use to do it. LED's only take about .7 volts to light and those clocks only use a tiny amount of power to operate. I think he was just showing an alternative way of generating power that doesn't involve rotation. You could use magnets on a float using water waves to move them up&down through coils. Magnets in the middle of his strip would move further, resulting in more elec. but would cause much more stress
Heaven and Earth! Damn you are stupid. Any time a magnet moves through a winding of wire and voltage is induced. This wind belt is attached to a magnet. The magnet moves up and down as the belt rapidly vibrates. Up and down magnet with coils above and below is just as I stated early one.
The American youth is getting dumber than fucking hell!
"At higher wind speeds the increase in energy output is not significant in proportion to the increase in wind speed. Frayne also admits the Windbelt would probably not endure winds above 50 Mph."
It's an aerodynamic phenomena called autorotation. In the early years of aircraft it destroyed flexible wings. The ribbon increases the angle of incidence (attack) as it gains lift. The higher the angle, the greater the lift until the 'wing' stalls, then it repeats the stall going negative. In this instance the movement is also determined by the elasticity and mechanical resonance of the ribbon.
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TheServiceWeb 2 weeks ago
Brilliant! Makes sense to cut the engineering down. Multiple modular connectable units, easy to make...
I live in a windy place, it's an ill wind that blows nobody good.
They'd be noisy suckers though.
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thestirfrychicken 4 months ago
I like the videography
Zellie1994 5 months ago
awesome idea.
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DJBRKFST 5 months ago
Oh by the way, Mr. Frayne, thanks for this damned interesting device idea! Gotta try this...
youngdrjung 5 months ago
underwater stream?
rclark23 5 months ago
@rclark23
Who are you replying to?
FreeGlobalEnergy 5 months ago
@FreeGlobalEnergy a constant source of mass/better sourse of kinetic energy'' Of>COURSE:-) 101 YOU SILLY RABBIT
rclark23 5 months ago
@FreeGlobalEnergy using it on the roof of a car is pointless, it still incurs drag which will use more power from the engine.
a10fjet 4 months ago
@rclark23
Putting it underwater would work.
Offcourse, then the fishes would have to work with the noise/vibrations, even if we humans wouldn't have to hear it.
Still, a nice idea.
Good lateral thinking there. :)
Jesus45U 4 months ago
Noisy?
ColinWatters 6 months ago
I THINK THIS BELT CAN NOT WORKING UNDER HIGH SPEED WIND
gomed01 7 months ago
nice idea.but semms like stron wind is needed to make it work.
GIwillo 8 months ago
its a sound generator as well. this thing is VERY NOISY !
clonepaste 8 months ago
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indibry 8 months ago
Shits me to tears how every cool video like this one ends up being spammed by religious AND anti-religious nutters. You are ALL idiots.
Keep your damn posts confined to religious videos please.
God help me...
TVFILMBUFF 9 months ago
It's like electric guitar principle.
UrbanLamer 9 months ago
@UrbanLamer It's a little different. The guitar uses a variation in magnetic field due to the metal string over a fixed coil. This setup uses a moving permanent magnet whose field cuts through coil as it moves, producing electricity. You won't be generating electricity in any quantity with an electric guitar, as it is. Magnetize the string and things will be different.
TheWingflyer 9 months ago
Not going to save the world, but it can help those who it was intended to help.
5lkk 10 months ago
Great videos on Alternative Energy.... We just posted our three-part video covering the installation of wind turbines in New York City's East River. Do you have more projects in the works?
-Helene
HeleneLerner 11 months ago
Tried building one of these back in school, 20 years ago ... noisy as all hell it was and not all that efficient ... but still pretty fun to play around with.
Jesus45U 11 months ago
very nice thanx 4 sharing
hogi90 11 months ago
well, that is what i will call thinking out side of the box or lateral thinking. very simple. like it.
energyman1988 11 months ago
lose the corny music and actually talk during the video alil bit...
theewelder 1 year ago
@theewelder
This is just an intro video. If you want to find vids listening to a description then Google:
Shawn Frayne Wind Belt.
GlobalAwareness2525 1 year ago
Could this have hydrodynamic applications. I'm wondering if there is a way to allow water passage through rivers and still be effective or is a specified flutter of air that would negate fluid applications.
SayItAloudcom 1 year ago
So how is that diferent... you still need the wind.
superasg3 1 year ago
@superasg3
The title is: New Wind Power - The Wind Belt Invention
To answer your question It seems pretty obvious that this does not have blades, nor turbines therefore that is how this is different from what you normally see in relation to wind power... and yes, it still uses the wind, hence "The Wind Belt". Wind is monetarily free energy. Make a device to harness the wind making the wind your fuel source and you never have to pay for wind, hence monetarily free energy.
GlobalAwareness2525 1 year ago
@GlobalAwareness2525 Ya... ok.... you didn't get it. Free energy is also with the curent wind mills and turbines and everything. It uses the wind... which is free as you said.
What i'm saying is to what this wind belt is better than the old wind turbine? Does it give more power? Is it cheaper to constract? Does it look better? What? Cause i don't see any diference since both of this use the same thing, wind... which is free. Get it?
superasg3 1 year ago
@superasg3 The creator's goal to replace kerosene lighting that's used in developing countries In his finding is turbines don't scale down to> 100 W well. He wanted to develop something that could B construct&repaired by the people who use them inexpensively In terms of micro power a couple LEDs small radio, charge cell pone Yes this should be better But I' not reading where the device is making inroad where it was intended to do so
5lkk 8 months ago
Liked the video. Happy Holidays!
RoofMountWindTurbine 1 year ago
dude this is an awesome invention, you should help people build them and quit being dependant on pigs(government whatevr)
JacobH420 1 year ago
Excellent innovation Sir! And, a very tastey bit of music to go with it.
77GSlinger 1 year ago
Interesting stuff I got my own patent done cheaper with the help of the patentease software and the Patent it Yourself book - both cost me less than $400
the software has a video here on youtube
fabrekco 1 year ago
I remember doing this with elastic bands as a kid, where you hold it out of the window of a moving car. I think the wind speeds needed for this to be practical would be too high.
SOLARTRADERdotCA 1 year ago
Great idea too!
MrPanetela 1 year ago
what were your previous experiments like before this one? does the oscillations various the output? how many sq ft of material is needed to power large appliances?
MrPanetela 1 year ago
HA ha ha ha! Yea! That's Great :) And funny :) I believe that's working!
SashNone 1 year ago
I think you guys are getting way ahead of yourselves. No one is saying that this can be implemented in large-scale operations.
From my perspective, his intent was to invent a tool which was cheap, easy to build, accessible and easily implemented to solve a basic need in the "developing" world.
As far as i'm concerned, the invention is by far more viable and applicable in that sense.
Mikroskopic 1 year ago
@Mikroskopic Yes U hit the intent square on the head. I agree, this could meet his goal
5lkk 8 months ago
I always thought of connecting a generator and a motor to each other....thus as he motor spinds it spins the generator which powers the motor
malaka135 1 year ago
@malaka135
I used to think the same thing but there is always going to be a loss of power
no matter what.
brandondarr 1 year ago
@brandondarr Wind is free. No loss. What is your point again?
maxxforce 1 year ago
@malaka135 Wow what a great idea! I bet nobody has thought of that before. Everyone must be an idiot except for you. All these years they have spent connecting all their fancy equipment to all sorts of energy sources, when all they needed to do was connect their two most basic bits of equipment together ! Once you've finished this invention you can start on the bootstrap levitation machine. Just bend down, grab you laces and lift.
Idiotsmakemesad 1 year ago
This is brillant, while it might not be efficent on a large scale application ie. large fields of them in iowa, it could be used to make things we use everyday more efficent say in heating and cooling ducts in homes exhaust ventalation in factories.
Indochronic1 1 year ago
@Indochronic1 Yeah OK then. So you go to all the trouble of making you venting smooth to reduce friction losses then you line them with fluttering bits of plastic creating horrendous friction losses that give back maybe 10% of the energy they take. Smart.
Idiotsmakemesad 1 year ago
if one will power a radio thats imperssive, say with a little r and d you could get 10 watss out of 1 band you could put 100 bands in your duct work. 10 watts X 100 bands = 1000 watts of extra power . you will probaly never reach a unity of power on anything. engineered correctly you could have very little drag on vent system. too bad there was music in vid couldnt tell if it was noisey , but that could be tuned out by changing length and tension of band.
Indochronic1 1 year ago
heat and air are a huge peice of the power consumtion pie. and combine with other power generation like vertical wind turbines (the cylinder ones so you dont have to have extra height for spinning blades) along the peak of yer roof and solar pannels on the roof for power and heating of water. we must widen our range of thought we must make things more efficent and use all the options. when it sunny usually less wind rainy/cloudy more wind we must use it all.
Indochronic1 1 year ago
we must get off forign oil and stop sending our paychecks to power companies and big corporations
Indochronic1 1 year ago
Well, well this quite a twist I really like what ya got here because of it's hyper sensitivity to air flow and it's linear design I see this device being applied to motor vehicles prehaps behind the grill or maybe the rear spoiler area to power up on board batterys or drive HHO generators.keep on plugging away kid ya got something here...
toobigaman 1 year ago
can you use it to power the fan blowing into it?
mylvl200wizardpwnsjk 1 year ago
@mylvl200wizardpwnsjk
That's highly unlikely. There is always a loss of energy.
Even in motors powered by permanent magnets with an outside electrical current assist which only appears to be overunity is still drawing force from the magnets so even at that it may be highly efficient but not overunity & not perpetual according to dictionary terms but I do encourage people to always reach for the "impossible".
What's impossible today is possible tomorrow.
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
@FreeGlobalEnergy
Why does it always have to be lost? I agree that in this case it certainly does lose energy. We haven't yet found the solution to multiply the energy used for input. It really shouldn't be that hard of a problem and when the solution is found I believe it will be elegant and simple. I believe it is possible to achieve higher output than input once we find the right combination of converting forms of energy and materials to use.
ThirdEyeLight 1 year ago
@ThirdEyeLight
It always has to be lost given the publicly known methods presently used but here is a thought:
If you study the increase in battery efficiency (or capacitors as batteries) along with the increased efficiency of electric permanent magnet motors along with increased efficiency of let's say a windmill generator, in which all continue to increase in efficiency could they ever overlap where the motor is so efficient that the generator produces overunity? Many say no, I say maybe.
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
@ThirdEyeLight
A
Furthermore, for the nay sayers, why does it have to be overuinity? Why not an highly efficient system that draws it's energy from the subtle energies of the earth's static electricity or from the earth's magnetic fields? Look up computer systems of the 1960s. Your cell phone has10 X the processing power of all of the 1960s CIA computers combined. To process what you do daily on your phone in 1960 would require an entire power plant...
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
@ThirdEyeLight
B
Look at what is happening with lighting. The florescent bulb is far more efficient than the incandescent bulb, the LED is far more efficient than the florescent & this trend will not stop. There will someday be another source of illumination beyond the LED & in another 100yrs a source beyond even that & each new illumination device will be ever more efficient, where starlight will power night solar to illuminate your home, it's the evolution of technology...
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
@ThirdEyeLight
C
We are still not talking about overunity here but highly efficient devices that require tiny subtle energies to power what we use today which presently requires huge power plants but once mankind reaches that level of technology then who really needs overunity? but reaching that threshold could bring the same achievements of 1st flight or Mach 1 to then discover an unimaginable technology that could cross the energy barrier into overunity...
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
@ThirdEyeLight
D
Keyword being, unimaginable technology. You can't even imagine it just as ancient man could never imagine the way we live today. If ancient man visited our time then went back he would describe us as God's who sweep across the landscape & the heavens on magic carpets, we live in small castles more comfortable than Kings & too many magical devices to comprehend where people live inside boxes (tv) & small boxes that fit in the palm of your hand. We live in magical times...
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
@ThirdEyeLight
E
Just as our world would not even be considered science by ancient man but pure magic, then so will earth's people in 2000 yrs seem to be pure magic to us even if viewed by all of the top scientists of today. In the year 4011 man will look back at us & laugh at all we didn't know viewing us as knuckle dragging neanderthals & wonder how we never blew up the entire planet with our extreme ignorance.
The impossible is only a temporary glitch.
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
@FreeGlobalEnergy
I like your attitude :) All it takes is for one person to imagine it though :)
ThirdEyeLight 1 year ago
@FreeGlobalEnergy There are a few of us who dont want to be included in 'our'. thanks.
mcwolfus 1 year ago
@mcwolfus
Yes, I know, but as long as you live on the surface of this planet & have no control over what corporations or government does then you have no choice, we will all suffer the same fate. Additionally as long as you or I drive a car or take a bus we all contribute to the hazards of oil. & because we NEED oil our Nation steals it (see Economic Hitman) our nation murders for oil in the name of peace. Someday the wrath of Nations will rain down on America. it's inevitable.
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
@FreeGlobalEnergy Yep, some truth in there, a good bit of truth. I was born in the Europe in the Mid sixties, and I soon realized just how incredibly lucky I was, quite an unusual state of mind I think, lol. Anyhow, I keep my consumption well down, and I have done a good bit for various Green causes. Many others have done much more than me. I have earned not to be included in 'we' ,and 'us'- thats my reward. lol. apart from ending my life I can do little more.
mcwolfus 1 year ago
@FreeGlobalEnergy ... I would, not worry about jews and Christians too much, and concentrate on avoiding the causes of what you have outlined. IIf wars happen, try not to be route cause of them, as you know. So eat less, or no meat, walk, bus, cycle, low energy technology, and one child. Plant trees... spread some common sense, lots. We need renuable energy yesterday, but oil/ arms in politics are opposed to it. Good luck, and do what you can.
mcwolfus 1 year ago
@mcwolfus
maybe you should go live in china with your one child policy
AeonicMedia 11 months ago
@AeonicMedia Living in China is not an issue. If i was to start a family, then it would be by adopting one of the millions of unwantd children in th world. Theres a good a few in the Ukraine- deformed after the accident. China also has many unwanted Girls, thats for sure. If neclear war happens, then there is nothing you can do.-stop worrying.
mcwolfus 11 months ago
@AeonicMedia ... Over ther past decades there has been a steady increase in how people perceive their own importance. There are a good few reasons for that. This is not a problem until they find themselves in a situation where their lives are not coming up to their new and often unrealistic expectations. I find the prospect of Millions of unsatissfied narcissists very frightening. This is I feel a fundimental danger. I remain happily unimportant. lol
mcwolfus 11 months ago
@mcwolfus I presented a series on how Christian evangelists were attempting to force Armageddon because per their belief system they think they can speed up the returning of Christ. An Atheist said they do not effect him because he does not believe in heaven or hell. I stressed to him it does not matter what his belief & that if he is caught in the nuclear cross fire of a religious endeavor then he & all of us will suffer. People should pay close attention to the Christian/Jewish power structure
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
no offense but you would need really concentrated wind to get this to work properly. won't be as good as a basic wind turbine.
NJRocks281 1 year ago
would it be posible to make power with sound, using this consept???
JakeDRoach 1 year ago
@JakeDRoach
Researchers at Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico have developed an environmentally friendly engine with no moving parts that is powered by sound waves.
Built on the principle of a 19th century pump invented by Robert Stirling, who discovered that cooling and heating gases could drive a piston, the thermoacoustic Stirling heat engine produces sound from heated helium within the engine. The sound waves then drive a piston which in turn generates electricity.
GlobalAwareness2525 1 year ago
Very interesting...Would be interesting to see how many individual belts could be stacked and the output increased many fold. May be a good idea for a restricted area's where a regular configuration would not work or be allowed.
56tony1 1 year ago
@56tony1 Maybe mount a rack of these devices on the grill of a car, right in front of the radiator? There'd be no more drag there than with a regular grill.
youngdrjung 5 months ago
is this guy from guatemala or something
innovationscarbonell 1 year ago
Big DEAL this exactly how a GUITAR PICK UP works.
the Vibrating string causes a disturbance on the Magnetic field,
of the PERMANENTLY fixed Magnet in the middle of the coil.
in FACT, by mounting the magnets on the coils and using a thin Steel strap you can get better efficiency as YOU DONT have to move the mass of the magnets back and forth. only DRAG the magnetic FIELD across the conductors.
VOILA! better efficiency.
Don't forget to GIVE ME CREDIT!
Art4Law 1 year ago
save the music for a party. how about some speaking to tell us more about it without blasting our ears ?
lightcatcher3 1 year ago
interresting basic concept. could result in "micro harvesting" fences. but i doubt its cost efficient with copper coils. printable piezo-like films might be the better choice here.
Ucceah 1 year ago
So............ it is harmonic oscillation?? the main thing in this generator is that the flexible turbine thingy should be able to survive harsh wind speeds....... interesting :D
exponentialfunc 1 year ago
lots of smart-asses on here and equally alot of ignorance. this idea does work but needs some work but then wilbur and orville never flew the very first time they got the idea, and how many times did edison invent the lightbulb before he got one that worked. if you aint got nothing to say except negative comments go someplace else
ncblu66 1 year ago
you could stack like hundreds of these insted of the huge wind turbines
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argusengineering 1 year ago
this is really awesome stuff
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skeight976 1 year ago
Great job I saw this about a year ago. Very simple and easy to make. I made one from scrap part from the junk yard. Thanks Shawn
atlas4u2 1 year ago
FreeGlobalEnergy, you have to start banning these stupid fools here. Too many idiots who cannot see pass GaGa or whatever her name is.
Anothercoilgun 1 year ago
"On the roof of an electric car" lol. You probably use more power to overcome the extra drag produced by that contraption than what you gain from it.
ihmesekoilua 1 year ago
yeah the effiency is showed in the video fan is plugged in to the wall and all it can power is val clock c'mon. And yeah i understant it's "invented" for free wind energy but I don't think this would power entire town because the payload will be poor making this larger
Dodexas 1 year ago
@Dodexas What the inventor had in mind were poor countries where maybe they want to charge a battery to run a radio or a light bulb at night. It's really cheap to build as to where solar panels are very expensive even in the US & way out of reach for people in other countries who may earn $3 per day.
I see no large industrial use for these as they would be way too noisy, but then so are windmills. People who live near windmills complain of the constant motor humm,this flutter would be maddening
GlobalAwareness2525 1 year ago
same principle as a guitar string vibrating over a pickup... cool
11harrison11 1 year ago
way to think out of the box
hunzedog 1 year ago
Does it create energy from bullshit too?
mercurio0000 1 year ago
Enough with the stupid music and explain it already.
slyman86 1 year ago
I love the Guitar instead. Sounds more in Pentatonic
Mizkal 1 year ago
great machine . good to see someone is thinking out side of the box . could you atatch this device to the leading edge of a windmill blade perhaps? it should boost the out put of the blade quite well.
ottgooroth 1 year ago
Clever, but the buzzing noise would be significant if you head alot of them together
acerkiwi 1 year ago
you could probably incorporate some sort of piezoelectric material into the ribbon to increase it's efficiency
TGMRobotSanta 1 year ago
it would be amazing if that generator can power that electric fan your using!!!
dodongluvinday 1 year ago
I could think of many places of use but for know an object that helps us get around ""car" could be best suited for recharging the battery, almost for ever!
clydesimone 1 year ago
This is genius. If I had money to invest it would be in this.
mycharlotteoffice 1 year ago
I can't image this would scale up very well.
Cougar333 1 year ago
I agree. It would be SUPER LOUD! If anyone has ever strapped a ladder down to a truck and hit the highway they know what I'm talking about. This would just be WAY too loud, and it loses all of it's momentum everytime it stops where a spinning blade never does.
TheSporesguy 1 year ago
That's a novel approach I must say. Kudos!
But something flapping in the wind is much less efficient than something which the wind causes to spin.
Turbines gain momentum.
This loses all its momentum each time it flutters.
L00NGB00W 1 year ago
i'm wondering, wouldn't it be more efficient to put a coil in the lenght in the middle as you get the most travel of the string tthere. otherwise seems like i good idea but is it more efficient than a turbine? and wouldn't that flutter thing need to have wind moving at a very paricular speed?
lolerdelol 1 year ago
Yes, good observation. I imagine that a middle coil could be accomplished with enough ingenuity.
referring to the efficiency. Flutter is accomplished with far less wind than a turbine but turbine motors vary, some have ball bearings & others have magnetic floating bearings which operate with less wind but the motors easily overheat & burn up with speed so compare cost & reliability of each unit, turbine vs super cheap wind belt
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
@lolerdelol rememeber that the coil will resist so if you put it in the middle you will effect the flutter,,, it propably wont flutter
shorty40merza 1 year ago
@lolerdelol In theory it would be more efficient: but the problem is that the string that vibrates due to the wind probably won't vibrate very regularly because of the wind-distorting magnet attached to it.
Besides that, I wouldn't be surprised if a faster moving magnet would cause more friction because of induction, which would make regular vibration difficult.
weeardguy 1 year ago
@lolerdelol
you have a point..but i think..the reason why it is in the end of the belt is that..you'll produce more current because of its frequency...isn't that correct..??
more frequency equals more current thus producing more electricity..haha..
great invention thoug.. ^^,
wakoko77 1 year ago
well hell, if you are going to do a wind belt, might as well make a wind turbine instead... wouldn't you think?
rspikowski 1 year ago
The idea here was to make something that only costs pennies as opposed to hundreds of dollars to build
.
The inventor's mind set was focused on providing electricity to poor people in 3rd world countries who only earn pennies a day.
GlobalAwareness2525 1 year ago
I love this kind of stuff.
Thinking outside the box is what we need more of these days.
What if the whole tape were either magnetic or a micro coil and the outer frame were the "stator" or vice versa?
Just brain storming.
conspiracy777 1 year ago
I've builded one too! it doesn't work
kamikazamaster 1 year ago
@kamikazamaster i'm sorry the one you 'builded' didn't work, check the user error manual
rspikowski 1 year ago
I think the answer is simple.......if you pray hard enough, Chuck Knorris can power your whole household and half your city block with the energy dissipated from one single round-house kick from him........
MusicManB17 1 year ago
same principles as an electric guitar.
dus777 1 year ago
keep
it
simple
stupid
juggernautxtr 1 year ago
Brilliant in it's simplicity!!!!! I'm impressed!!!
I can think of a ton of applications for this, why haven't I seen this before?
nightmathzombieethan 2 years ago
I kinda have an idea about an energy source, using gravity or high preassure in deep water, but i'm too lazy and cheap to build the generator
EcoFascist 2 years ago
why don't they just stick massive turbines in the ocean bays to get pushed around by the tides. generating power on the in and the out tides.??
chopppacalamari 2 years ago
that would mean the oil, coal and banks companies wouldn't be making any money..that would be awful
xadam2dudex 2 years ago
they do. but getting them down there is a very hard. the currents push the turbines around so sometimes it lands on its side or tips over. look it up. there are many places that use it.
chriski95 1 year ago
chopppacalamari, lunar power generators already exist. However, it's the same thing like with all non-fossile fuels: These will come, when the last drop oil will have been sold and our atmosphere will have turned into a venusian like.
x_x
debrainwasher 1 year ago
This has nothing to do with piezo crystals, thats all faraday right there babeeee! lol. Wonderful concept for cell phone, torch, small appliance charging on a camp site!
That is in the absence of a stream and a pocket hydro turbine, (available in pieces to the clever at an Electronics store near you) In regards to the car comment I saw , conservation of energy people. adding wind harnasses to a moving vehicle causes drag reducing efficiency, it's a waste of energy.
DukeHastMich 2 years ago
@DukeHastMich The best way I have been thinking about charging with wind while driving is diverting some of the air that smashes into the grill of a car and then having an internal turbine type generator that scoops some of that resistance to be used as energy... Cars all have drag .. might as well make use of it.. not to mention all IC engines make heat , should make use of that too , roof tops and hoods make good spots for light weight solar panels
nakedblasphemy 2 years ago
Not a viable concept, and certainally not new. it is pirated from the Piezo-Electric Vibrating Generator concept from at least 10 years ago.
PhysicsGuerrilla 2 years ago
cool !! Some guys on here are missing the point a bit me thinks!
Moondogzzz 2 years ago
@Moondogzzz
Indeed they are.
nightmathzombieethan 2 years ago
that is such a brilliant Idea!!
thanks
badphobar 2 years ago
Imagine the noise it would produce! I mean people are complaining even when state-of-the-art wind turbine blades are being used. Imagine the complaining when this is being used. And not to mention the lack of efficiency, if you look at the device you would see that it only covers a very petite area relative to the amount windflow area.
But still a nice shot. :0
rock3tcat 2 years ago
Yeah that would be annoying, especially at night just as you doze off and the wind picks up... ZZZZZZZzzzzzzz WbWbWbWbWbWbWb
V V V V V V V v v v v v v
You might start to have nightmares that huge bees were flying you to their hive to make honey out of you... A kind of a red colored honey, then you wake up screaming.
FreeGlobalEnergy 2 years ago
Who do you want to impress?
dulcebelluminexperti 2 years ago
the fan uses more energy than this thing is making.
Total crap.
hammer663tube 2 years ago
The fan is only simulating natural wind.
This is supposed to be mounted outside then the wind makes it flutter, then add more units just like adding multiple wind mills.
This is far less costly than wind generators. It's design was intended to be more affordable for people in 3rd world countries who do not have the infrastructure we have here
FreeGlobalEnergy 2 years ago
@hammer663tube
"the fan uses more energy than this thing is making.
Total crap"
LOL, well yeah. Its a wind powered generator, not a perpetual motion machine.
mrkurt13 1 year ago
I think @hammer663tube is wondering if the fan is included.
ihitawallofassholes 1 year ago
@hammer663tube Wow.. that's a really unbelievable comment... I really hope you were joking.
utMagicMushroom 1 year ago
@hammer663tube You have got to be kidding! Your comment is total crap!
shaynadaniel 1 year ago
@hammer663tube Most understood the electric fan was used for demonstrative purposes only, nothing other than that was implied.
5lkk 1 year ago
Ill say one thing . I am an electrical engineer involved in Rand d and this is outside the box thinking. There are many ver small applications that added together could create free total power in a home or vehicle etc. This could be utilized in your flag outside your door for the doorbell and or outside lighting or just to lend to the other sources charging batteries for a grid free system. this is the type of thinking that will break the power barriers just keep pushing the barriers
WrecklessT 2 years ago
Terribly efficiency. Think about all the energy dissipated in changing the direction of the belt and the mass of the attached parts. A turbine keeps its mass going in one direction, so more energy absorbed by the turbine blades goes to the generator/alternator.
Source: B.S. in aerospace engineering. A senior design team at my school tried optimizing a wind belt for maximum power, and got single digit watts. With tons of math and computer simulations. A similar span turbine? Hundreds.
davidlvann 2 years ago
I don't know what you are all talking about. I see two coils with something blowing between them. WTF?
1253tech 2 years ago
That is a magnet moving between the coils. When you take a magnet and move it past copper it makes electrical current
FreeGlobalEnergy 2 years ago
@1253tech thatys pretty much how alternating current is made...well a crude representation anyway...i beleive they pass a wire between 2 magnets tho..but same idea.... the magnet obviously has a magnetic feild which imposes a current on the windings...the more windings the higher the voltage.....kindof how a trnsformer works..if you want to step 120v down to 12 volt you use that ratio...for ever 120 in the one winding you make 12 on the other
hardhatg69 1 year ago
So is the next stage to develop a larger number of these integrated to each other to comeup with higher usable voltages or would supersizing the model for rooftops be next?
nars66 2 years ago
I always assumed the little black spinny thing on top of vans did this, if not why not??
KKinsane2009 2 years ago
I did see an electric car with generators & fan blades attached but people tell me that the wind drag the fans create do not calculate to any kind of efficiency yet I have never seen anything demonstrated to know if that is true because it would matter as to which generator technology you are using such as ball bearing vs magnetic bearing. There are higher efficiency generators or motors than what is used as standard common place
FreeGlobalEnergy 2 years ago
I don't know how efficient the wind belt is but I do like this outside the box thinking. Very interesting concept.
imikewillrockyou 2 years ago
Yes, I understand this. This device is to convert wind energy into electricity. Just like a windmill does.
But generators and be run as motors, so if you feed electricity INTO a wind turbine, you could have a big fan.
So I was thinking that, if instead of using the wind belt so make electricity from wind power, you instead were to feed electricity INTO the wind belt, you could use it as a fan.
I'm suggesting that it could do either, depending.
SailorBarsoom 2 years ago
If you tried that with this particular set up it would not blow wind in any particular direction because the ribbon is too flexible & the flapping would likely cause a small breeze on both sides of the unit & I am not so sure this thing could flap fast enough or strong enough to do any good but could be I don't have your vision. The key to clever inventing is having a vision that nobody else has or capable of seeing. It is then up to you to make that vision happen. All ideas should be considered
FreeGlobalEnergy 2 years ago
I'm a bass player and thought about the 15" amp I use to create energy just from my hours of practicing. the comment you replied to would be this is... extremely low fq sounds. So, if you want to waste electricity by reversing the flow to this thing, you might as well go buy a bass guitar and rock out!
RuffleTheTeacher 2 years ago
Very nice invention, I like your concept on "we all need each other" and it's very true we do. We all, or should I say most of us, have certain job skills that we partake in helping to keep things (economy) moving along. one way or another everything we do effects oneanother. Thank you for sharing this.
bgause44 2 years ago
If this is a wind GENERATOR, it can also be a wind MAKER. That is, it can be a non-rotating fan.
Or a propeller? Would that work?
SailorBarsoom 2 years ago
You are perceiving this in reverse.
The wind belt does not generate wind.
It is the wind that makes the belt flap then the movement of the small magnet in & out of the copper coils makes electrical current.
The fan is plugged into the outlet but the purpose of the fan is to imitate a windy day.
FreeGlobalEnergy 2 years ago
well done you need some kind of reconition for building that
cypresbyrne 2 years ago
The little black box turns AC into DC you twits.
And probably regulates the voltage. It is still viable in windy environments for generating small amounts of power, and could be scaled up.
JRBeaman 2 years ago
Why would you address people in that manner?
At anytime you were in school or college, had a question for the teacher or professor or even asked another student for information you did not know at the time did they always answer your question followed up by calling you a twit?
FreeGlobalEnergy 2 years ago
No one person can know all things. I can guaranty u yourself do not know all things, if u can't seem to finish building that nuclear reactor then ask a physicist why it's not functioning should he give u the answer followed up with "You twit"?
I suppose living life makes u realize u are not special. U may excel in some things but will lack in others. Someone who is an electronics genius may not be able to rebuild a car engine etc. We all need each other to make this world function.
FreeGlobalEnergy 2 years ago
no its not realy able to be scaled up
the forces would be WAY too heavy
those arent ordinary forces, they pull in every direction ect.
Assi2004 2 years ago
Ogre is right: Movements of magnets through coils makes AC current. So let's get busy & make all cars, boats, & aircraft run on this current! Many UTubes show trivial small outputs - go to "Mag Amp Gen" series to see it power real scooter wheel.
PhotonDrive 2 years ago
well the point is the efficiency to use the WIND. you can more or less take the amount of energy you put INTO making the wind and compare to the amount of energy you TOOK from the wind to get the efficiency of the device. against real wind you dont know how much energy was used to make the wind, but from a fan you DO.
as for using it to charge a battery to run a light at night...thats just weak...you could just as easily use a candle and cheaper than buying a lightbulb and wind generator.
tuseroni 2 years ago
i would be more impressed if they hooked it to a voltimetre. why do none of these ever just plain out show you the ohm output. i dont care if you can light an led or power a radio, you are using 120v to power that fan, if you only produce 98v at equivalent amps you have 80% efficiency. i would never expect you to produce more than 120v, or even really more than 90% efficiency (considering how much voltage is lost just in powering the fan i shouldnt expect more than 90%) but show me the ohms
tuseroni 2 years ago
This was designed as a cheap way to replace the expensive wind generator. The fan is only used to simulate a windy day so please recalculate excluding the fan current.
The inventor had in mind people in poor countries who live in mud huts in windy locations could charge a battery in order to run a light at night. Wind generators & solar are more expensive than current we get here in America from coal & nuclear. If all Americans can't afford solar then neither can the poor countries.
FreeGlobalEnergy 2 years ago
AGAIN,,,,ANYTHING with a non-discript "Little
Black Box" in series with he output seems a little questionable.
What differentates this unit from any of the thousand other power generation units shown on U-Tube? This was originally posted in 2007....and it looks like little to nothing has changed s far as development....lets at least see some 3rd party testing and validating of claims....but im not holding my breath.
bigkim100 2 years ago 3
Anytime you move a magnet through a coil, you will get electricity no matter what you use to do it. LED's only take about .7 volts to light and those clocks only use a tiny amount of power to operate. I think he was just showing an alternative way of generating power that doesn't involve rotation. You could use magnets on a float using water waves to move them up&down through coils. Magnets in the middle of his strip would move further, resulting in more elec. but would cause much more stress
ogremeisterdom 2 years ago
@bigkim100
Heaven and Earth! Damn you are stupid. Any time a magnet moves through a winding of wire and voltage is induced. This wind belt is attached to a magnet. The magnet moves up and down as the belt rapidly vibrates. Up and down magnet with coils above and below is just as I stated early one.
The American youth is getting dumber than fucking hell!
Anothercoilgun 1 year ago
2 questions
-is it scalable...when its 100 feet tall, and 400 feet wide, will it still work efficiently?
,-all the things that you have plugged into take exteremely different voltages, and amperages...so does it produce a wide range of voltages?
The littl black box that is mysteriously in line worries me...as well.whats it doing??
bigkim100 2 years ago
"At higher wind speeds the increase in energy output is not significant in proportion to the increase in wind speed. Frayne also admits the Windbelt would probably not endure winds above 50 Mph."
rkwong792 2 years ago
Would be MORE impressive if you powered the fan with the device! *grin* *laughter*
red33410 2 years ago
how is the wind moving the belt??..
timetravler4977 2 years ago
Just take any kind of ribbon laying around the house, turn on a fan then hold the ribbon tight in front of the fan, you get the same affect.
If you require some kind of complex mathematical equation to explain how it flutters then that is beyond my ability.
BernesePuppies 2 years ago 2
It's an aerodynamic phenomena called autorotation. In the early years of aircraft it destroyed flexible wings. The ribbon increases the angle of incidence (attack) as it gains lift. The higher the angle, the greater the lift until the 'wing' stalls, then it repeats the stall going negative. In this instance the movement is also determined by the elasticity and mechanical resonance of the ribbon.
kenif 2 years ago
You could also ask how does the wind make the national flag flutter in the wind.
I would say, It just does.
I am sure someone here could give a more scientific explanation
BernesePuppies 2 years ago
its not
its generating the wind
tutorialguy72 2 years ago
Now....if only it was powering the fan too...
:)
mostangrypirate 2 years ago
Cool. Won't cut your head off like a spinning blade. Might be a little noisy. Good concept using turbulence for a good result.
SuperArglebargle 2 years ago