This is a bunch of Crap. All the Tunisia government has to do is to allow DNA testing on the Carthaginian graves. These people are searching for a needle in a haystack. People migrated along the coast for thousands of years. no way they can find Phoenican and Canaanite DNA. Alexander the Great killed all of the Phoenicians of Tyre (circa Lebanon) and carried women/children off to slavery around 335 BC. Romans killed off the Carthaginians and the Romans became new Carthage. This Roman DNA.
Given that we aren't even sure who the Sea People were, how can Spencer Wells be so sure that the Phoenicians weren't related to them?
All in all, not a very deep documentary. Good for people who knew nothing about the Phoenicians to begin with, not not much here for ancient history buffs.
the phoenicians(hebrews) are the basques,the original europeans...the envious greeks n romans envied us n re wrote history when they learned everything from us...cheatin bastards...karma is a bitch n italy n greece are shitholes now...no basques in their lands to school them..
Actually, they did--there is a missing, seventh part to this video. It explained that there is indeed a "Phoenician" type, a set of genetic mutations specific to Phoenicians which is detectable in their descendant populations today. They traced it on the Y-chromosome, which passes virtually untouched from father to son, unlike the X, which gets a good mix from both parents (women = XX, men = XY). You'll notice they were only testing men.
What a waste of time and money this show was. One false start after another, just for that forced feel-good ending. And what ever came of the DNA from the king's teeth?
Some NatGeo producer should have pulled the plug early on and said "sorry folks, we don't have a show here."
Or as the guy on the ship said "there goes that &%@ tool!"
@brightspark495 wrong..the real phoenicians moved to europe the pheonicians are the basques,the original europeans n the people who gave rise to white people...the basques are of a holy bloodline.
DNA is about is accurate as the people doing the tests on the dna. Furthermore, just like descriptions about ancient India, Mesopotamia and Egypt as well as that of the Sumerians are often told from the side of whites who simply ignore the written evidence as well as telling the translations wrong of the histories.
Im Lebanese and im seriously disgusted by 92% of Lebanese people. Some stupid video comes out that does nothing more than initiate more separations within the Lebanese population and the latter, like emotionally driven morons, run to it and willfully create these social constructs to further separate a, already fragile, society. Fucking useless all of you. You want to call yourselves Pheonecian/Arab? go ahead if it helps you sleep at night. I, on the other hand, will say that Im Lebanese. Period
phoenician identity doesnt exist anymore , even before arab conquest , most of Lebanon was aramized , only Tunisia spoke punic ( aphoneician dialect).
u cant say that without any proof :S and i have a really long history in my family, and as far as we know no one have ever left lebanon, and my family is HUGE, and please i think i know my history better then anyone does...
there are several proofs that prove that lebanon was aramized before the arab conquest , phoenician language was almost dead in the 7th century , except maybe in Tunisia , into its punic dialect.
this documentary is very misleading they jumped to the conclusion that modern lebanese are descendants of the phoenicians without even telling us the results of the dna tests they had done.They should've told us the dna results of the people in lebanon because i've seen another video where doctor pierre says that he and the majority of the lebanese share the same dna marker with the people in iran.
What I've actually been saying is that the people of Tyros, Byblos, Sidon ect. did not define themselves as Lebanese or Phoenicians, but as citizens of Tyros, Byblos, Sidon ect. which is a historical fact. It´s a good example of how history is redefined in order to fit into MODERN nationalist concepts (in this case to form an non-arab identity).
It´s like when Germans and French argue, whether Carolus Magnus was german or french - he was neither, he saw himself as King of the Franks.
yes it would be awesome if it could still be like that in modern day but unfortunatelly due to a bunch of reasons it, and its not like the phoenicians were just some general people who just made die. they are the modern day people of Lebanon, and when u asked those inhabitants of Tyre, Byblos ect.. the way they replyed is carrying on the phoenician legacy therefore they are basically saying they are of phoenician descent.
@TomFawley1 Who cares what they classed themselves. The point is that this theory proves once and for all that I am NOT of arab decent.... I as well as my ancestors have never classed our Lebanese roots as arab. We are the children of the Phoenicians. Taif was a JOKE!
This debate about who is genetically or linguistically "related" to "the phoenicians" and who is not, seems pointless to me. In ancient times ethnic groups where defined not by race and language, but by religion and institutions. And not forget migration/assimilation!
The people of Tyros, Byblos, Sidon ectl. were loyal to their city-states and their city-gods and that`s it. There is absolutly no sign for a common "phoenician" national identity.
"The Phoenicians" is just a collective name given by the greeks to the levantine sailers (referring to the blood-red dye those sailers brought to greece;; blood red = phoinos, so the greeks calles them the phoinikes).
basically ur just in denial that lebanese are phoenicians so you are willing to say there is no need for names for people ex: I am american, I am French etc.. now that you know lebanese are infact phoenicians you are willing to say there is no need for names like that. Fool. go be a fuking raccist somewhere else.
An exciting documentary which shed light to a people that influenced and added to the ancient world but was never really appreciated for it. Its important to understand that the Phoenicians connected civilizations not by land and military but by sea and commerce
So for all those people blindely attacking and curse the Phoenicians, understand your history and appreciate other cultures as well as your own. Because in the end we are all 1.BTW Europa is the name of a Phoenician princess, google it
haha!! they went round and round tryna question the fact that Phoenicians came from the canaanite nation.. at the end they bumped into the commonly known truth.. yet they still ignore investigating the very origin of this nation.. the Arabian Peninsula!
Thay found similarities relating to modern lebanese culture, which we already know of! which is cool but.. what a waste of time, they havent investigated the real deal.. the actual origin!!
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ye keep draeming, the pheanicions have cultorly similarity to the arabs, exacly as the jews have.
the pheanicons speak hebrew, fact, they where difrent clothes, they were sailors not a beduins, they leaved in the mountains, something that you dont do, they had conections and trad with the greeks, not with their "arab fathers" as the beduins across the meadle east doing.
A. Watch this part of the doco again, the Phoenicians ARE part of the big family and ARE also Canaanites (Aramians of the south who split from the Arabian peninsula), for that they didnt speak Hebrew, they sopke a form of Aramic and they had their own alphabet which WASNT in hebrew!
B. Isralites (Hebrews) were bedouins who later settled in the Canaanite land (Palestine), However nowadays Israelis belong to many different races from around the world with very diverse cultural backgrounds, they are just Israelis by name! so.. keep dreaming!
you wanna get the facts right then do a little research on the net or wikipedia, you will find they spoke their own form of Aramaic and have invented the first Alphabet, which is not Hebrew that anyhow was much affected by Phoenician, and maybe you will also learn how to spell better if you stop relying just on Hebrew or Israeli sources!
Lebanese are Phoenicians not Arabs, whether muslim or christian if you are Lebanese you are Phoenician, not Arab, not French, but Phoenician! May we carry on the Phoenician legacy an honor them as they honored us!
Having Phoenician origins does not mean Lebanese are not Arabs. Egyptians have Pharaoh origins, it doesn't mean they are not Arabs. All Europeans dont have the same origins, however they are all Europeans. Yes Arabs are passing through dark ages; however instead of denying reality, Lebanese should be trying to improve the Arab socio-cultural situation (and in some means they are).
you can inprove whatever you want, but what I improve is my identity being of Phoenician descent, Phoenicians are a forgotten race, we are practically invisible due to the Arabs and their silly conquerings, we shall emerge from our hole and become once again what our ancestors were but in modern day. :)
Phoenicians are a forgotten race: dividing people according to races is the definition of racism. Even biologically races dont exist. You can talk about origins, but talking about race get close to Nazism. I am not challenging the fact that Lebanese are the descendents of The Phoenicians. I am only saying that Lebanon is an Arab country, according to the constitution, and according to facts of life (location and language). Italians are Europeans even if they were Romans.
Romans are Europeans silly guy and it is modern day italy which is european anyway. Maybe you can wish lebanon to be arab country but that just you. u are new phoenician i am the old, the original one.
TheNewPhoenicians, Yes thats true! i also love history, it is fascinating for anyone to find their roots, but.. today we are Arabs, we have a cause, we need to be unified, Arabism was just another wave of cultural immigration that already happened in the ancient times from the Arabian peninsula, this time it was islamic rather Aramic or Summarian, so people, live it real and learn! i wont say i am Aramic just cuz i am from Syria, otherwise would be too silly isolating myself from the real cause!
@orientalarab I indeed agree with u, yes I am lebanese but I am arabic too and most proud that my insenstor are the prophet and his companies, that doesn't divide my lebanese society with it's different religious groups we speak same language today in lebanon we share great past, we are one family we all are brothers.
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phoenciangoddess i just wonder since u r all over u tube with this dna talk, ranting the same haplo hoopla ramblings, i just wonder do u examine the dna of the sperm that goes into ur ass? do u swallow it or send it to the lab first to see if it is cannanite before fertilization. i am just wondering.
Folk dance of the phonecians? LOL Famous singers ? Bitch please u are delusional. people care as much about that as they do the pygmies in africa ....LOL
Next time im in the club or watching MTV I'll look for the phoenician folk dance and thse famous lebanese singers
there is no desert in Lebanon so we are not sand niggers u fuckin ape go eat a banana and shut the fuck up im sick of ir racist comments, of all people to be racist a fuckin black person kiss my lebanese ass bitchj
amooreliban first u say u r sick of racist comments and then u say u r not sand niggers? hello, am i am missing something? As for this phoenician blabber no one in this world gives a fuck about it it is a prehistoric documentary in the discovery channel , nothing more and nothin less.. I dunno why some lebanese are obsessed with it.
Never heard of the idea but seems very interesting. I have seen images from Sumer and those guys seem pretty black. They will never admit it, it is right on their face. Do you know some books or authors I can start with?
Its sad the true Coastal E1b1b were denied the true Phoenician Legacy
All of Coastal Greece, Italy & north Africa is E1b1b, J2 is not found in North Africa & only inland Greece & italy those are farmers not Sailors, but this is Lebanese politics not science.
The genetic marker of the Phoencians is carried by (muslims, christians, druze, alawites, and atheists) of LEBANON about 75% of them as well as 15 million + (Phoenician-Lebanese) diaspora around the world.
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You'll learn more about the Phoenician people of Lebanon and their relationship to their famous (PHOENICIAN) ancestors.
thanks for your comment. I'm glad there's someone else who's fascinated by our history, not for religious/political purposes but for the sake of our ancient heritage.
You are wrong. M72 is I1b1. J2's defining marker is M172 and found everywhere within Mesopotamia and parts of Asia Minor. The connection you are referring to is IJ main group which probably points to the migrations from Middle East to Europe about 40.000 years ago. So your nationalistic and covertly racist arguments are baseless.
this is really facinating, i believe lebanese pple now, muslim or christians are mainly phoenician and limitly interbred with romans ( french, italians ...) remember that when the muslim army conquered lebanon, it forced pple to convert rather than bringing pple from arabia to settle in lebanon, but some lebanese families today are direct descendants of european families that settled in lebanon by the time of the crusades.
My maternal grandparents were from Lebanon. My maternal grandfather's dad was Lebanese and his mom was French. My maternal Grandmother's mother was half Italian and my grandmother's father was Lebanese. I wonder how much more European ancestry is in my Lebanese maternal background. My mom looks really Lebanese.
I'm still waiting for an answer, there's 55 Black nations in and out of the continent of Africa, How come out of all the 55 black nations how come they NEVER made any progress, Unless they consider mudd huts is progress.
1. 10 large sea going ships were excavated at Abydos, beside the cycopean temple, dating from ancient Egyptian time.
2. An ancient oriental temple was discovered in the Grand Canyon, Arizona in 1900s- excavated by Smithsonian institute, containing artefacts from Egypt, India and Tibet.
3. Scotland was named after Scota relative of Ahknaten, who is buried in Ireland.
4. Phoenician and Egyptian artefacts have been found in Australia.
What surprises me is the bust of Hannibal. His features seem to be clearly European and none of the Semitic sort. The Phoenicians were probably a mix breed of earlier Semitic Canaanite populations bred with Paleolithic Euro-Mediterranean types similar to the Minoans. If the Sea Peoples didn't mix with them, they must of at least taught them a few things about sailing and colonization.
are you sure J2 is the so called "Phoenician Marker?"
Well, the results that came out weren't directly conclusive that there is a specific unique Phoenician marker that is exclusive to the Lebanese. The tests suggested that the Phoenicians probably belonged to "some form" of J2 which was then taken literally accepted as a good political tool to "unite" the country particularly amongst enthusiastic "anti-Syrian" Maronites.
What was found in earlier independent tests, was that a visible number of Lebanese samples (most likely Christian) were found to belong to the "Old Mediterranean" stratum that is shared with southern Italians, Iberians, dark haired folks in the Greater Macedonian region (not particularly FYROM), Cretans and West Anatolains while atypical of continental Greeks and Cypriots.
I presume this "Old Mediterranean" stratum was a form of Ancient Greek influence, one that was composed of J2b1 and V13 and considerable amounts of R1b suggesting that this stratum was more Paleolithic (Pre-Mycenaean) than Indo-European (Hellenic).
20% is not really that high. These type of genetic tests are not used to measure admixture, or regional probability but a simple means of tracing one ancestor in a large group of people THOUSANDS of years ago. The same type of tests were used to prove racial equality as well (the usual Frenchman, Black, Native American publicized joint test that was found to have an overlapping relative back so and so...)
Heck, I could trace an ancestor all the way from Denmark if I were to go far back enough!
The discovery of a "Phoenician" marker is all over-hyped. J2 is a potential marker typical of Neolithic expansion, earlier Greek colonization and later Byzantine influence, as well as genetic influx from a small number of Circassians and Ottomans. Influences from the Phoenicians are probably the highest in Lebanon, second in Malta perhaps but it's the middle ages that determined the diversity of the Lebanese gene pool. Genetic differences do exist between religious groups in the aggregate.
"He hath overthrown the chief of the Nubians; the Black is helpless, defenseless, in his grasp. He hath united the boundaries of his two sides, there is not a remnant among the curly-haired, who came to attack; there is not a single survivor among them...They fall by the sword...the fragments cut from them are too much for the birds." (Tombos Stela of Thutmose I)
man the book is FICTIONAL!!! look how the holy bible got these cave people thinking that they lived in the sun lmao SECOND HOMIE. you have black blood period THEY WILL NOT TEST BLACK PEOPLES DNA. Third history channel did a dna test special called EVE found a woman that is related to EVERYBODY through DNA and guess what LMAO shes black
So why would he label it "countries of the negroes?" If they were negroes themselves they would not have a need to classify fellow negro nations as "countries of the negroes."
ohh my god fool where did you get that silly ass name from PHARONIC COPTIC EGYPTIAN shit from lmao dumbass couldnt even spell it right. ONE MORE TIME TO ALL OF YOU, egpytians the sea people are BLACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! period there are more then a few pharaohs that they are not willing to glorify which INCREDIBLE BLACK FEATURES. look at the GERF HUSSIEN TEMPLE why did they move that out of NUBIA and re modeled it hmmmmmm lets think!!!!
LOL YOU SAY WE HAVE NO CONNECTION TO THE MIDDLE EAST lmao.. where the fuck do you think the NAME SAMBO CAME FROM YOU STUPID FUCK.. look at a map for us to travel we take water and on foot YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE MIDDLE EAST lmao... fucking dumb fucking CAVEMEN lol.. soon as you challenge them mentally THEY WANT TO START CALLING PEOPLE NIGGER lmao Second he dont even know the origin that the word NIGGER CAME from the BLACK INDIANS refering to there ancestors lmao
Your an idiot, What kind of education did you get?
Did you even get through the 10th grade?
The Word Nigger, come from the famous River in west africa and it's called the Niger river, Also, your people are know as "Negroids".
So Stop Inventing bullshit, You fucking Liar, Your just Ashamed of what you are. Now you hate the word nigger, it's too bad because thats what you are...A NIGGER!!!
"Southern boundary, made in the year 8, under the majesty of the king of Upper and Lower Egypt, Sesostris III, ... in order to prevent that any Negro should cross it, by water or by land, with a ship, or any herds of the Negroes; except a Negro who shall come to do trading in Iken, or with a commission. Every good thing shall be done with them but without allowing a ship of the Negroes to pass by Heh, going down stream, forever." (Semna Stela, year 8)
Here again..."to prevent that any negro should cross" If Egyptians were negroids they would not be using this terminology against fellow negroids. Compared to the negroids, they were rather relaxed on letting neighbors from the north enter Egypt moreso than negrods from the south!
you fucking dumbass LOL CAUGHT YO ASS A LIE AGAIN the word NEGRO is an ENGLISH WORD you imbreed hill billy LMAO LMAO LMAO!!!!!!!!!!! fucking loser lmao LMAO LMAO your about as stupid and dumb as they come.
Then I took (?)] a troop of my estate, and 100 asses with me, bearing ointment, honey, clothing, oil (THnt) and [///] of every sack, in order to [make presents (?)] [in] these countries [and I went out to (?)] these countries of the Negroes. ///// [Then I sent (?)] people who were in the door, and I made letters to give information that I had gone out to bring this my father from Wawat (wAwA.t) and Utheth (wTT). I pacified these
countries ///// [in (?)] the countries of [///] the name of which is Mether (mTr). I loaded (?)] the body of this sole companion upon an ass, and I had him carried by the troop of my estate. I made for him a coffin ///// I brought [///] /// /// /// /// in order to bring him out of these countries. Never did I send [///] or any Negro-caravan //////. I was greatly praised on account of it. (Inscriptions of Sebni, 6th dynasty - J. H. Breasted)
YEA BLACK POWER homie im with you NOT ONLY DID THEY SAY THAT THEY ARE NOT PART OF THE SEA PEOPLE but the refuse to show the DNA testing of the black people in the AREA..
"Southern boundary, made in the year 8, under the majesty of the king of Upper and Lower Egypt, Sesostris III, ... in order to prevent that any Negro should cross it, by water or by land, with a ship, or any herds of the Negroes; except a Negro who shall come to do trading in Iken, or with a commission. Every good thing shall be done with them but without allowing a ship of the Negroes to pass by Heh, going down stream, forever." (Semna Stela, year 8)
I have made my boundary further south than my fathers, I have added to what was bequeathed me. I am a king who speaks and acts, what my heart plans is done by my arm. One who attacks to conquer, who is swift to succeed, in whose heart a plan does not slumber. Considerate to clients, steady in mercy, merciless to the foe who attacks him. One who attacks him who would attack, who stops when one stops, who replies to a matter as befits it. To stop when attacked is to make bold the foe's heart,
attack is valor, retreat is cowardice, a coward is he who is driven from his border. Since the Nubian listens to the word of mouth, to answer him is to make him retreat. Attack him, he will turn his back, retreat, he will start attacking. They are not people one respects. They are wretches, craven-hearted. My majesty has seen it, it is not an untruth. I have captured their women, I have carried off their
subjects, went to their wells, killed their cattle, cut down their grain, set fire to it. As my father lives for me, I speak the truth! It is no boast that comes from my mouth. (Semna Stela year 16 - W.M.Flinders Petrie A History of Egypt, Part One, page 188)
"He hath overthrown the chief of the Nubians; the Black is helpless, defenseless, in his grasp. He hath united the boundaries of his two sides, there is not a remnant among the curly-haired, who came to attack; there is not a single survivor among them...They fall by the sword...the fragments cut from them are too much for the birds." (Tombos Stela of Thutmose I)
bitch please you aint did shit THATS FOR SURE. your ancestors BOUGHT US. nobody came into your country and took us over till the late 16 century how many people went into europe over time and time again to dominate you peasents. for real you people need to get over yourself you think your the fucking rulers of the world. your ancestors had to fabricate and recreate your history make you feel suprior more then the rest of the world
Your people never made anything, you Smart Ass. Take a good look at your people in the Sub_Saharan, Why is it they still live in shit huts? IF your people are so Advanced? IF anyone has fabricated anything than, That would be your people.
Your Kind is still running around the world Murdering people for no reason.
second proof that you muthafucas done took our history and modified it. EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT NUBIA IS BLACK. correct.. then why did they move gerf hussein temple OUT OF NUBIA INTO EGYPT. and remodeled the damn thing for 20 TO 30 YEARS lol look at the pharaoh Menkaura clearly has more black features but YOUR PEOPLE REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE HIM AS BLACK. please!!!!!!!! countless pharaohs with MAD BLACK FEATURES
like for example: ITS A FACT WHITE PEOPLE DO NOT CARRY THE GENE OF SKINNY EYES OR HIGH CHEEK BONES. but egyptians are chracterized as having skinny eyes and high cheek bones. FACT: The SUN is whites enemy. YOU HAVE COMMERICALS saying that the sun carries harmful rays.. COME ON NOW all through the middle east and cental asia is sun. but you people cant survive a day at a nascar event without getting skin cancer :) YEA
Do you have "FACTS" Or Sources ? Or do you enjoy talking shit from the side of your mouth.
You niggers think this is a car you can jack. This is a country you stupid SAMBO.
But I guess ALL Niggers are dumb, No too Smart are ya?
You MUG Face APES, still walking today with your knuckles scraping the ground. Or, Your still swinging from tree to tree in search of a Banana. You Fucking Cotton picking Slave.
your about as stupid as they come HERES A FACT YOUR PEOPLE DEVIRED FROM CAVE MONKEYS called neantherdal :) NOW WHOS DRAGGING KNUCKLES respect the people who brought you out of your cave and taught you life WE ARE THE CRO MAGNUS bitch. THATS YOUR HISTORY BOY.
Faroah you are a typical Arab invader racist who thinks he is an Egyptian just cause his ancestors stole our lands, a 100 Million proud Black Americans will liberate their ancestoral lands from Kemet to Canaan
Lebanon, Israel, Palestine & Egypt are Black nations that were Black in the bible and history and will always be that way
whats funny is that say these people date back to the B.C. but dont have no blood ties to the SEA PEOPLE :) so they did not travel to egypt nor did they create carthage :) they COPIED EVERYTHING FROM THE SEA PEOPLE!!!!! lmao they jump started these muthafuckas lmao...
The Semites and Europeans stamped us as Black and evil by their GOD, so its very important to remind the desert dwelling Semites and cave living European that we are the founders of human civilization!
Hey You Stupid Negro, It's easy to make of idiots like you.
"They are not valiant men, they are miserable, both tails and bodies; my majesty saw it myself, it is no fable" (Semna Stela W.M.Flinders Petrie A History of Egypt, Part One, page 189)
My majesty has seen it, it is not an untruth. I have captured their women, I have carried off their subjects, went to their wells, killed their cattle, cut down their grain, set fire to it. As my father lives for me, I speak the truth! It is no boast that comes from my mouth. (Semna Stela year 16 - W.M.Flinders Petrie A History of Egypt, Part One, page 188)
"He hath overthrown the chief of the Nubians, the black is helpless, defenseless in his grasp. He hath united the boundaries of his two sides, there is not a remnant among the curly-haired who can come attack him. There is not a single survivor among them. The Nubian troglodytes fall by the sword and are thrust aside in their lands. Their foulness, it floods their valley and their mouths like a violent
flood, the fragments cut from them are too much for the birds, carrying off the prey to another place." (Tombos Stela of Thutmose I; "We Can't Go Home Again" - Clarence Walker 2001; "Ancient Egypt" - David P Silverman, 2003)
The current population of Lebanon is Arab invader and some Crusdaers. The original population was Black. I know that the population today is all terrorist Arab invaders & some Armenians, the original population is what made Phoenicia great not your terrorist people
Don't worry hun, These Black Idiots are saying the same exact thing about us.
Their calling us Invaders as well.
Hey Retard, Blackweak Asshole, why do most of your people still live in mud huts and waiting to be fed IF your people are so Smart?
You fucking Idiot, you have an IQ of a lemon and it's easy to see why your people are the weakest people in this world, you SLAVES made me laugh. By the way, how does it feel to be picking cotton ALL DAY LONG LMAOF You Retard .
The real Phoenicians are Black Christian Phoenicians like Briggite Gabriel, the rest are Lebanese Arab terrorist invaders mixed with some Barbarian Crusaders.
The original Phoenicians Were BLACK CANAANITES, Lebanese Arabs are not Phoenicians they are cultural goons who came raped our beautiful Black nation and forced them to become Semites
GREEKxxprincess, listen carfully to what he says, he did NOT say less then 20% of the LEBANESE population, he said less the 20% of the population carries the Phoenician marker, he was refering to the population of Carthage. And then he goes on to say that the modern day lebanese and the Phoenicians as well as the Canaanites are the same people. Carthage is a Colony, its normal that you would find such small % of the population carrying the Phoenician Gene.
GREEKxxprincess, listen carfully to what he says, he did NOT say less then 20% of the LEBANESE population, he said less the 20% of the population carries the Phoenician marker, he was refering to the population of Carthage. And then he goes on to say that the modern day lebanese and the Phoenicians as well as the Canaanites are the same people. Carthage is a Colony, its normal that you would find such small % of the population carrying the Phoenician Gene.
Greekxxprincess, listen carefully, he DID NOT say less then 20% of the LEBANESE population, he said less then 20% of the population carries the Phoenician marker. He was refering to the population of Carthage in Tunisia. Then he said that the modern day Lebanese and Phoenicians as well as the Canaanites are the same people. Carthage is simply a colony, its normal that the odds of having Phoenician Genes are small, but not in Lebanon, the home of the Phoenicians!
"Less than 20% of todays Lebanese population carries the Phoenician marker"
then he goes on and says that this probably means that Phoenician influence is not big in Lebanon, and then he goes and says that the lebanese are phoenicians, which was ODD! lol
Thanks again for such an interesting series, I have always loved History and Geography. With such kind ppl like yourself putting all these on YT, I could enjoy my love for these two subjects. BTW, I am a middle aged retiree, so i have time to watch all these programs.
This is a bunch of Crap. All the Tunisia government has to do is to allow DNA testing on the Carthaginian graves. These people are searching for a needle in a haystack. People migrated along the coast for thousands of years. no way they can find Phoenican and Canaanite DNA. Alexander the Great killed all of the Phoenicians of Tyre (circa Lebanon) and carried women/children off to slavery around 335 BC. Romans killed off the Carthaginians and the Romans became new Carthage. This Roman DNA.
downbrownintown 1 month ago
Given that we aren't even sure who the Sea People were, how can Spencer Wells be so sure that the Phoenicians weren't related to them?
All in all, not a very deep documentary. Good for people who knew nothing about the Phoenicians to begin with, not not much here for ancient history buffs.
mensch1066 2 months ago
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the phoenicians(hebrews) are the basques,the original europeans...the envious greeks n romans envied us n re wrote history when they learned everything from us...cheatin bastards...karma is a bitch n italy n greece are shitholes now...no basques in their lands to school them..
TheBasqueLand 2 months ago
Actually, they did--there is a missing, seventh part to this video. It explained that there is indeed a "Phoenician" type, a set of genetic mutations specific to Phoenicians which is detectable in their descendant populations today. They traced it on the Y-chromosome, which passes virtually untouched from father to son, unlike the X, which gets a good mix from both parents (women = XX, men = XY). You'll notice they were only testing men.
GhastEald 3 months ago
The Last Canaanites / Phoenicians in Libanon are killed by Alexander the great ( the killer).. what left of them are mixed later with Macedonians...
The real native Canaanites are now in north Algeria , Morocco and Malta.
That is what I think .
The old version of the language is still spoken. in Morocco and Algeria >> they call it Darija.
I m very interested in Canaanites as a special race and special bloodline.
Thank you.
njiop100 9 months ago
What a waste of time and money this show was. One false start after another, just for that forced feel-good ending. And what ever came of the DNA from the king's teeth?
Some NatGeo producer should have pulled the plug early on and said "sorry folks, we don't have a show here."
Or as the guy on the ship said "there goes that &%@ tool!"
jawmo1 1 year ago
this video is shit, but the comments are a hoot
jethro035181 1 year ago
What a beautiful story, thanks for sharing.
candyberriche 1 year ago
conclusion: lebanese=phoenician=canaanites, you guys have a great history and should be proud of it.
brightspark495 1 year ago 11
@brightspark495 wrong..the real phoenicians moved to europe the pheonicians are the basques,the original europeans n the people who gave rise to white people...the basques are of a holy bloodline.
TheBasqueLand 2 months ago
DNA is about is accurate as the people doing the tests on the dna. Furthermore, just like descriptions about ancient India, Mesopotamia and Egypt as well as that of the Sumerians are often told from the side of whites who simply ignore the written evidence as well as telling the translations wrong of the histories.
wingedlightning 1 year ago
Im Lebanese and im seriously disgusted by 92% of Lebanese people. Some stupid video comes out that does nothing more than initiate more separations within the Lebanese population and the latter, like emotionally driven morons, run to it and willfully create these social constructs to further separate a, already fragile, society. Fucking useless all of you. You want to call yourselves Pheonecian/Arab? go ahead if it helps you sleep at night. I, on the other hand, will say that Im Lebanese. Period
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jethro035181 1 year ago
im lebanese, im phoenician and i am PROUD of it!
DiZeHiZe 1 year ago
lebanese are arab not phoenician
phoenician identity doesnt exist anymore , even before arab conquest , most of Lebanon was aramized , only Tunisia spoke punic ( aphoneician dialect).
MoorishEmpire 1 year ago
u cant say that without any proof :S and i have a really long history in my family, and as far as we know no one have ever left lebanon, and my family is HUGE, and please i think i know my history better then anyone does...
DiZeHiZe 1 year ago
there are several proofs that prove that lebanon was aramized before the arab conquest , phoenician language was almost dead in the 7th century , except maybe in Tunisia , into its punic dialect.
MoorishEmpire 1 year ago
You are also black!! Canaan (aka lebanese / Phoenician) was the son of HAM (Black man)!!!!!!!
dwolfe71 1 year ago
Only according to a group of idiots who worship a dead Jewish criminal instead of an actual god.
HoundofOdin 1 year ago
@HoundofOdin You say that like there is an actual god...
GaiusIuliusTaberna 1 year ago
There are lots of gods, and even goddesses too. That dead Jewish cultist just isn't one of them.
HoundofOdin 1 year ago
this documentary is very misleading they jumped to the conclusion that modern lebanese are descendants of the phoenicians without even telling us the results of the dna tests they had done.They should've told us the dna results of the people in lebanon because i've seen another video where doctor pierre says that he and the majority of the lebanese share the same dna marker with the people in iran.
stellar6666 2 years ago
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!
dwolfe71 1 year ago
Apparenty, KVOS TV has moved to channel 70
simpleminds116 2 years ago
What I've actually been saying is that the people of Tyros, Byblos, Sidon ect. did not define themselves as Lebanese or Phoenicians, but as citizens of Tyros, Byblos, Sidon ect. which is a historical fact. It´s a good example of how history is redefined in order to fit into MODERN nationalist concepts (in this case to form an non-arab identity).
It´s like when Germans and French argue, whether Carolus Magnus was german or french - he was neither, he saw himself as King of the Franks.
TomFawley1 2 years ago
yes it would be awesome if it could still be like that in modern day but unfortunatelly due to a bunch of reasons it, and its not like the phoenicians were just some general people who just made die. they are the modern day people of Lebanon, and when u asked those inhabitants of Tyre, Byblos ect.. the way they replyed is carrying on the phoenician legacy therefore they are basically saying they are of phoenician descent.
Adonispally 2 years ago
about Carolus thats very good politically and in general but when it comes to a nation and culture i will not accept any racism.
Adonispally 2 years ago
@TomFawley1 Who cares what they classed themselves. The point is that this theory proves once and for all that I am NOT of arab decent.... I as well as my ancestors have never classed our Lebanese roots as arab. We are the children of the Phoenicians. Taif was a JOKE!
jlak8282 2 years ago
This debate about who is genetically or linguistically "related" to "the phoenicians" and who is not, seems pointless to me. In ancient times ethnic groups where defined not by race and language, but by religion and institutions. And not forget migration/assimilation!
The people of Tyros, Byblos, Sidon ectl. were loyal to their city-states and their city-gods and that`s it. There is absolutly no sign for a common "phoenician" national identity.
TomFawley1 2 years ago
"The Phoenicians" is just a collective name given by the greeks to the levantine sailers (referring to the blood-red dye those sailers brought to greece;; blood red = phoinos, so the greeks calles them the phoinikes).
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Adonispally 2 years ago
basically ur just in denial that lebanese are phoenicians so you are willing to say there is no need for names for people ex: I am american, I am French etc.. now that you know lebanese are infact phoenicians you are willing to say there is no need for names like that. Fool. go be a fuking raccist somewhere else.
Adonispally 2 years ago
An exciting documentary which shed light to a people that influenced and added to the ancient world but was never really appreciated for it. Its important to understand that the Phoenicians connected civilizations not by land and military but by sea and commerce
So for all those people blindely attacking and curse the Phoenicians, understand your history and appreciate other cultures as well as your own. Because in the end we are all 1.BTW Europa is the name of a Phoenician princess, google it
marcwil3an 2 years ago
haha!! they went round and round tryna question the fact that Phoenicians came from the canaanite nation.. at the end they bumped into the commonly known truth.. yet they still ignore investigating the very origin of this nation.. the Arabian Peninsula!
Thay found similarities relating to modern lebanese culture, which we already know of! which is cool but.. what a waste of time, they havent investigated the real deal.. the actual origin!!
orientalarab 2 years ago
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ye keep draeming, the pheanicions have cultorly similarity to the arabs, exacly as the jews have.
the pheanicons speak hebrew, fact, they where difrent clothes, they were sailors not a beduins, they leaved in the mountains, something that you dont do, they had conections and trad with the greeks, not with their "arab fathers" as the beduins across the meadle east doing.
they belong to the syrid race, not the arabid.
israeli360 2 years ago
A. Watch this part of the doco again, the Phoenicians ARE part of the big family and ARE also Canaanites (Aramians of the south who split from the Arabian peninsula), for that they didnt speak Hebrew, they sopke a form of Aramic and they had their own alphabet which WASNT in hebrew!
orientalarab 2 years ago
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B. Isralites (Hebrews) were bedouins who later settled in the Canaanite land (Palestine), However nowadays Israelis belong to many different races from around the world with very diverse cultural backgrounds, they are just Israelis by name! so.. keep dreaming!
orientalarab 2 years ago
what, it is fact that phenicions speaked hebrew, later, as israelites to, speaked aramik, all the books after the bible are in aramik.
israeli360 2 years ago
you wanna get the facts right then do a little research on the net or wikipedia, you will find they spoke their own form of Aramaic and have invented the first Alphabet, which is not Hebrew that anyhow was much affected by Phoenician, and maybe you will also learn how to spell better if you stop relying just on Hebrew or Israeli sources!
orientalarab 2 years ago
as i read they speaked hebrew, not aramik.
israeli360 2 years ago
if you read.. you'd know how to spell.
orientalarab 2 years ago
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orientalarab 2 years ago
Lebanese are Phoenicians not Arabs, whether muslim or christian if you are Lebanese you are Phoenician, not Arab, not French, but Phoenician! May we carry on the Phoenician legacy an honor them as they honored us!
zazoopalIy 2 years ago
Having Phoenician origins does not mean Lebanese are not Arabs. Egyptians have Pharaoh origins, it doesn't mean they are not Arabs. All Europeans dont have the same origins, however they are all Europeans. Yes Arabs are passing through dark ages; however instead of denying reality, Lebanese should be trying to improve the Arab socio-cultural situation (and in some means they are).
TheNewPhoenicians 2 years ago 5
you can inprove whatever you want, but what I improve is my identity being of Phoenician descent, Phoenicians are a forgotten race, we are practically invisible due to the Arabs and their silly conquerings, we shall emerge from our hole and become once again what our ancestors were but in modern day. :)
zazoopalIy 2 years ago
Phoenicians are a forgotten race: dividing people according to races is the definition of racism. Even biologically races dont exist. You can talk about origins, but talking about race get close to Nazism. I am not challenging the fact that Lebanese are the descendents of The Phoenicians. I am only saying that Lebanon is an Arab country, according to the constitution, and according to facts of life (location and language). Italians are Europeans even if they were Romans.
TheNewPhoenicians 2 years ago
Romans are Europeans silly guy and it is modern day italy which is european anyway. Maybe you can wish lebanon to be arab country but that just you. u are new phoenician i am the old, the original one.
zazoopalIy 2 years ago
TheNewPhoenicians, Yes thats true! i also love history, it is fascinating for anyone to find their roots, but.. today we are Arabs, we have a cause, we need to be unified, Arabism was just another wave of cultural immigration that already happened in the ancient times from the Arabian peninsula, this time it was islamic rather Aramic or Summarian, so people, live it real and learn! i wont say i am Aramic just cuz i am from Syria, otherwise would be too silly isolating myself from the real cause!
orientalarab 2 years ago
@orientalarab I indeed agree with u, yes I am lebanese but I am arabic too and most proud that my insenstor are the prophet and his companies, that doesn't divide my lebanese society with it's different religious groups we speak same language today in lebanon we share great past, we are one family we all are brothers.
hectorisriva 11 months ago
@TheNewPhoenicians lebanese are phoenicians, and they belong to the canaanite group !
GivenchyParisFr 8 months ago
Modern day Lebanese though are not pure Phoenician; they are Phoenician/Greek mixes. The vast bulk of their ancestors though are Phoenician.
"Land of the red people."
pillsburydoughboy47 2 years ago 2
Jesus fucking christ all that crap to be told something I ALREADY FUCKING KNEW.
pillsburydoughboy47 2 years ago
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PhoenicianGoddess 2 years ago
phoenciangoddess i just wonder since u r all over u tube with this dna talk, ranting the same haplo hoopla ramblings, i just wonder do u examine the dna of the sperm that goes into ur ass? do u swallow it or send it to the lab first to see if it is cannanite before fertilization. i am just wondering.
rumbato 2 years ago
Folk dance of the phonecians? LOL Famous singers ? Bitch please u are delusional. people care as much about that as they do the pygmies in africa ....LOL
Next time im in the club or watching MTV I'll look for the phoenician folk dance and thse famous lebanese singers
sunandmoon111 2 years ago
there is no desert in Lebanon so we are not sand niggers u fuckin ape go eat a banana and shut the fuck up im sick of ir racist comments, of all people to be racist a fuckin black person kiss my lebanese ass bitchj
Amooretliban 2 years ago
amooreliban first u say u r sick of racist comments and then u say u r not sand niggers? hello, am i am missing something? As for this phoenician blabber no one in this world gives a fuck about it it is a prehistoric documentary in the discovery channel , nothing more and nothin less.. I dunno why some lebanese are obsessed with it.
rumbato 2 years ago
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Ape? what the hell are U? Do u think youre some superior bloodline?
motherfucker, nobody cares about lebanon, you dont make the world go round , get off your high horse.
In America lebanese aint considered white so, yes they will call your ARAB ASS a sand nigger,
think about it next time u call a HUMAN being an ape.
In the states They"ll call you worse things than ape, you p.o.s. Blacks r loved here compared to Arabs. Go smoke that in your crack pipe.
sunandmoon111 2 years ago
Never heard of the idea but seems very interesting. I have seen images from Sumer and those guys seem pretty black. They will never admit it, it is right on their face. Do you know some books or authors I can start with?
avapplication 2 years ago
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Its sad the true Coastal E1b1b were denied the true Phoenician Legacy
All of Coastal Greece, Italy & north Africa is E1b1b, J2 is not found in North Africa & only inland Greece & italy those are farmers not Sailors, but this is Lebanese politics not science.
PhoenicianSomali 2 years ago
Phoenicians can suck my dick
DeniShow99 2 years ago
u can suck ur own wiwi thats if u even have one little punk
Amooretliban 2 years ago
ha-ha
DeniShow99 2 years ago
Google "Black Canaan", Buy da book by Dr Robert Howard. Educate yourself!
Blackpower718 2 years ago
Who financed the expedition?
avapplication 3 years ago
PHOENICIANS (LEBANESE) GENETIC MARKER IS:
"Haplogroup J2 (M72) Y-DNA
The genetic marker of the Phoencians is carried by (muslims, christians, druze, alawites, and atheists) of LEBANON about 75% of them as well as 15 million + (Phoenician-Lebanese) diaspora around the world.
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PhoenicianGoddess 3 years ago
thanks for your comment. I'm glad there's someone else who's fascinated by our history, not for religious/political purposes but for the sake of our ancient heritage.
kupo717 3 years ago
You are wrong. M72 is I1b1. J2's defining marker is M172 and found everywhere within Mesopotamia and parts of Asia Minor. The connection you are referring to is IJ main group which probably points to the migrations from Middle East to Europe about 40.000 years ago. So your nationalistic and covertly racist arguments are baseless.
jamoliva 2 years ago
this is really facinating, i believe lebanese pple now, muslim or christians are mainly phoenician and limitly interbred with romans ( french, italians ...) remember that when the muslim army conquered lebanon, it forced pple to convert rather than bringing pple from arabia to settle in lebanon, but some lebanese families today are direct descendants of european families that settled in lebanon by the time of the crusades.
austinguy21 3 years ago 2
My maternal grandparents were from Lebanon. My maternal grandfather's dad was Lebanese and his mom was French. My maternal Grandmother's mother was half Italian and my grandmother's father was Lebanese. I wonder how much more European ancestry is in my Lebanese maternal background. My mom looks really Lebanese.
wilburyaya 3 years ago
very true like my mothers family who are direct descendants of the german crusades in south lebanon
lebanesebarbie32 2 years ago
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Hey BlackNigger718
I'm still waiting for an answer, there's 55 Black nations in and out of the continent of Africa, How come out of all the 55 black nations how come they NEVER made any progress, Unless they consider mudd huts is progress.
Faraoh08 3 years ago
1. 10 large sea going ships were excavated at Abydos, beside the cycopean temple, dating from ancient Egyptian time.
2. An ancient oriental temple was discovered in the Grand Canyon, Arizona in 1900s- excavated by Smithsonian institute, containing artefacts from Egypt, India and Tibet.
3. Scotland was named after Scota relative of Ahknaten, who is buried in Ireland.
4. Phoenician and Egyptian artefacts have been found in Australia.
All evidence ancient sea voyages I would say.
anotherblonde 3 years ago
What surprises me is the bust of Hannibal. His features seem to be clearly European and none of the Semitic sort. The Phoenicians were probably a mix breed of earlier Semitic Canaanite populations bred with Paleolithic Euro-Mediterranean types similar to the Minoans. If the Sea Peoples didn't mix with them, they must of at least taught them a few things about sailing and colonization.
Liberaliter 3 years ago
are you sure J2 is the so called "Phoenician Marker?"
Well, the results that came out weren't directly conclusive that there is a specific unique Phoenician marker that is exclusive to the Lebanese. The tests suggested that the Phoenicians probably belonged to "some form" of J2 which was then taken literally accepted as a good political tool to "unite" the country particularly amongst enthusiastic "anti-Syrian" Maronites.
Liberaliter 3 years ago
What was found in earlier independent tests, was that a visible number of Lebanese samples (most likely Christian) were found to belong to the "Old Mediterranean" stratum that is shared with southern Italians, Iberians, dark haired folks in the Greater Macedonian region (not particularly FYROM), Cretans and West Anatolains while atypical of continental Greeks and Cypriots.
Liberaliter 3 years ago
I presume this "Old Mediterranean" stratum was a form of Ancient Greek influence, one that was composed of J2b1 and V13 and considerable amounts of R1b suggesting that this stratum was more Paleolithic (Pre-Mycenaean) than Indo-European (Hellenic).
Liberaliter 3 years ago
What I meant by saying "the Greater Macedonian region", I was thinking of the Greek province of Macedonia and parts of FYROM.
Liberaliter 3 years ago
20% is not really that high. These type of genetic tests are not used to measure admixture, or regional probability but a simple means of tracing one ancestor in a large group of people THOUSANDS of years ago. The same type of tests were used to prove racial equality as well (the usual Frenchman, Black, Native American publicized joint test that was found to have an overlapping relative back so and so...)
Heck, I could trace an ancestor all the way from Denmark if I were to go far back enough!
Liberaliter 3 years ago
The discovery of a "Phoenician" marker is all over-hyped. J2 is a potential marker typical of Neolithic expansion, earlier Greek colonization and later Byzantine influence, as well as genetic influx from a small number of Circassians and Ottomans. Influences from the Phoenicians are probably the highest in Lebanon, second in Malta perhaps but it's the middle ages that determined the diversity of the Lebanese gene pool. Genetic differences do exist between religious groups in the aggregate.
Liberaliter 3 years ago
Fantastic documentary. Thanks for posting it!
shtafey 3 years ago
Moor is believed to come from the Greek word mauros (Greek orthography μαύρος, plural μαύροι), meaning "black" or "very dark".
"""SHOW ME ONE PICTURE OF A DARK OR BLACK ARAB RIGHT NOW"""
PrinceDimeXI 3 years ago
"He hath overthrown the chief of the Nubians; the Black is helpless, defenseless, in his grasp. He hath united the boundaries of his two sides, there is not a remnant among the curly-haired, who came to attack; there is not a single survivor among them...They fall by the sword...the fragments cut from them are too much for the birds." (Tombos Stela of Thutmose I)
Faraoh08 3 years ago
man the book is FICTIONAL!!! look how the holy bible got these cave people thinking that they lived in the sun lmao SECOND HOMIE. you have black blood period THEY WILL NOT TEST BLACK PEOPLES DNA. Third history channel did a dna test special called EVE found a woman that is related to EVERYBODY through DNA and guess what LMAO shes black
PrinceDimeXI 3 years ago
So why would he label it "countries of the negroes?" If they were negroes themselves they would not have a need to classify fellow negro nations as "countries of the negroes."
Faraoh08 3 years ago
I'm NOT an ARAB and NEVER will I be.
I'm an Pharonic Cpotic Egyptian, No connection no you.
Faraoh08 3 years ago
ohh my god fool where did you get that silly ass name from PHARONIC COPTIC EGYPTIAN shit from lmao dumbass couldnt even spell it right. ONE MORE TIME TO ALL OF YOU, egpytians the sea people are BLACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! period there are more then a few pharaohs that they are not willing to glorify which INCREDIBLE BLACK FEATURES. look at the GERF HUSSIEN TEMPLE why did they move that out of NUBIA and re modeled it hmmmmmm lets think!!!!
PrinceDimeXI 3 years ago
wayofsalaf
Your an Arab, Fuck you and your people. Arab Scum bag.
Nothing happened to the Pharaohs, they rules for 3000 years.
You speak of hell?? thats where your going you fucking terriost, where you'll have your 70 virgins waiting for you, you stupid fucking Idiot.
better yet, why don't you go and blow yourself up..
Faraoh08 3 years ago
and you bitch YOU CALL ME A NIGGER but you call yourself a PHARAOH.. lmao imagine that LMAO... you dont even know what race you are boy..
PrinceDimeXI 3 years ago
wayofsalaf
Dream on Dope, You were our Slaves and thats a FACT.
Black Pharaohs..LMAOF, In your Dreams dorthy, Keep clicking your heels.
Faraoh08 3 years ago
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DaHebrewHammer 3 years ago
This doco is amazing cheers
lalaviv 3 years ago
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DaHebrewHammer 3 years ago
DaHebrewHammer
If you don't mind me asking.
Are you an Israeli? or are you a Jewish European?
And I'm surprised to finally see An Israeli or a Jew enter these discussions.
Faraoh08 3 years ago
It doesn't matter where I am from! I am in this discussion because BlackLiar718 thinks everybody is Black!
DaHebrewHammer 3 years ago
Thats cool, I Can respect that.
Yea, blackIdiot, thinks Black people were in charge of everything and we're All Invaders.
Faraoh08 3 years ago
NORTHERN EUROPE = ZERO % smart ass bitch
PrinceDimeXI 3 years ago
Idiot who said Phoencians were from Northern Europe or had any Northern Y-Dna?
They were mainly J2 & J1 those are exclusive Semitic Y-haplogroups!
DaHebrewHammer 3 years ago
but what do you look like where are you located right now. i gurantee your people are not from that area :) bitch
PrinceDimeXI 3 years ago
I look Arab
DaHebrewHammer 3 years ago
STFU you stupid Nigger.
Your people come from the west Africa, You have to connection to the middle east Sambo.
Faraoh08 3 years ago
LOL YOU SAY WE HAVE NO CONNECTION TO THE MIDDLE EAST lmao.. where the fuck do you think the NAME SAMBO CAME FROM YOU STUPID FUCK.. look at a map for us to travel we take water and on foot YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE MIDDLE EAST lmao... fucking dumb fucking CAVEMEN lol.. soon as you challenge them mentally THEY WANT TO START CALLING PEOPLE NIGGER lmao Second he dont even know the origin that the word NIGGER CAME from the BLACK INDIANS refering to there ancestors lmao
PrinceDimeXI 3 years ago
Your an idiot, What kind of education did you get?
Did you even get through the 10th grade?
The Word Nigger, come from the famous River in west africa and it's called the Niger river, Also, your people are know as "Negroids".
So Stop Inventing bullshit, You fucking Liar, Your just Ashamed of what you are. Now you hate the word nigger, it's too bad because thats what you are...A NIGGER!!!
Faraoh08 3 years ago
Thats right Nigger, we have no connection to you. And I don't buy this Bullshit out of Africa crap.
Here's what the Pharaohs have said about your people..You Douche bag..
Faraoh08 3 years ago
i dont disagree with you about us coming out of africa i think your people actually devried from THE CAVE MONKEYS lol
PrinceDimeXI 3 years ago
"Southern boundary, made in the year 8, under the majesty of the king of Upper and Lower Egypt, Sesostris III, ... in order to prevent that any Negro should cross it, by water or by land, with a ship, or any herds of the Negroes; except a Negro who shall come to do trading in Iken, or with a commission. Every good thing shall be done with them but without allowing a ship of the Negroes to pass by Heh, going down stream, forever." (Semna Stela, year 8)
Faraoh08 3 years ago
Here again..."to prevent that any negro should cross" If Egyptians were negroids they would not be using this terminology against fellow negroids. Compared to the negroids, they were rather relaxed on letting neighbors from the north enter Egypt moreso than negrods from the south!
Faraoh08 3 years ago
you fucking dumbass LOL CAUGHT YO ASS A LIE AGAIN the word NEGRO is an ENGLISH WORD you imbreed hill billy LMAO LMAO LMAO!!!!!!!!!!! fucking loser lmao LMAO LMAO your about as stupid and dumb as they come.
PrinceDimeXI 3 years ago
Then I took (?)] a troop of my estate, and 100 asses with me, bearing ointment, honey, clothing, oil (THnt) and [///] of every sack, in order to [make presents (?)] [in] these countries [and I went out to (?)] these countries of the Negroes. ///// [Then I sent (?)] people who were in the door, and I made letters to give information that I had gone out to bring this my father from Wawat (wAwA.t) and Utheth (wTT). I pacified these
Faraoh08 3 years ago
countries ///// [in (?)] the countries of [///] the name of which is Mether (mTr). I loaded (?)] the body of this sole companion upon an ass, and I had him carried by the troop of my estate. I made for him a coffin ///// I brought [///] /// /// /// /// in order to bring him out of these countries. Never did I send [///] or any Negro-caravan //////. I was greatly praised on account of it. (Inscriptions of Sebni, 6th dynasty - J. H. Breasted)
Faraoh08 3 years ago
StrikeForce20
"wow well the phoenicans were before the sea peoples or hiksos."
Yes the original Phoenicians were Black Natives not Semites
Blackpower718 3 years ago
YEA BLACK POWER homie im with you NOT ONLY DID THEY SAY THAT THEY ARE NOT PART OF THE SEA PEOPLE but the refuse to show the DNA testing of the black people in the AREA..
PrinceDimeXI 3 years ago
"Southern boundary, made in the year 8, under the majesty of the king of Upper and Lower Egypt, Sesostris III, ... in order to prevent that any Negro should cross it, by water or by land, with a ship, or any herds of the Negroes; except a Negro who shall come to do trading in Iken, or with a commission. Every good thing shall be done with them but without allowing a ship of the Negroes to pass by Heh, going down stream, forever." (Semna Stela, year 8)
Faraoh08 3 years ago
I have made my boundary further south than my fathers, I have added to what was bequeathed me. I am a king who speaks and acts, what my heart plans is done by my arm. One who attacks to conquer, who is swift to succeed, in whose heart a plan does not slumber. Considerate to clients, steady in mercy, merciless to the foe who attacks him. One who attacks him who would attack, who stops when one stops, who replies to a matter as befits it. To stop when attacked is to make bold the foe's heart,
Faraoh08 3 years ago
Cont:
attack is valor, retreat is cowardice, a coward is he who is driven from his border. Since the Nubian listens to the word of mouth, to answer him is to make him retreat. Attack him, he will turn his back, retreat, he will start attacking. They are not people one respects. They are wretches, craven-hearted. My majesty has seen it, it is not an untruth. I have captured their women, I have carried off their
Faraoh08 3 years ago
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subjects, went to their wells, killed their cattle, cut down their grain, set fire to it. As my father lives for me, I speak the truth! It is no boast that comes from my mouth. (Semna Stela year 16 - W.M.Flinders Petrie A History of Egypt, Part One, page 188)
Faraoh08 3 years ago
"He hath overthrown the chief of the Nubians; the Black is helpless, defenseless, in his grasp. He hath united the boundaries of his two sides, there is not a remnant among the curly-haired, who came to attack; there is not a single survivor among them...They fall by the sword...the fragments cut from them are too much for the birds." (Tombos Stela of Thutmose I)
Faraoh08 3 years ago
lmao you out of your fucking mind it you think your so called white egyptians took my people down LMAO..
PrinceDimeXI 3 years ago
You must be one of these Ignorant Fools who doesn't Believe in Ancient Egyptian Records.
These Information comes directly form the tombs and The Temples of luxor.
But I guess Fucking Jack Asses like you will stay stupid for ever.
Faraoh08 3 years ago
So you mean to tell me, your people were never being Slaved by anyone?
Yea, Your people were taking down by EVERYONE.
Get Over yourself, You IDIOT!!!
Faraoh08 3 years ago
bitch please you aint did shit THATS FOR SURE. your ancestors BOUGHT US. nobody came into your country and took us over till the late 16 century how many people went into europe over time and time again to dominate you peasents. for real you people need to get over yourself you think your the fucking rulers of the world. your ancestors had to fabricate and recreate your history make you feel suprior more then the rest of the world
PrinceDimeXI 3 years ago
STFU you Ghetto Nigger.
Your people never made anything, you Smart Ass. Take a good look at your people in the Sub_Saharan, Why is it they still live in shit huts? IF your people are so Advanced? IF anyone has fabricated anything than, That would be your people.
Your Kind is still running around the world Murdering people for no reason.
Faraoh08 3 years ago
second proof that you muthafucas done took our history and modified it. EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT NUBIA IS BLACK. correct.. then why did they move gerf hussein temple OUT OF NUBIA INTO EGYPT. and remodeled the damn thing for 20 TO 30 YEARS lol look at the pharaoh Menkaura clearly has more black features but YOUR PEOPLE REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE HIM AS BLACK. please!!!!!!!! countless pharaohs with MAD BLACK FEATURES
PrinceDimeXI 3 years ago
like for example: ITS A FACT WHITE PEOPLE DO NOT CARRY THE GENE OF SKINNY EYES OR HIGH CHEEK BONES. but egyptians are chracterized as having skinny eyes and high cheek bones. FACT: The SUN is whites enemy. YOU HAVE COMMERICALS saying that the sun carries harmful rays.. COME ON NOW all through the middle east and cental asia is sun. but you people cant survive a day at a nascar event without getting skin cancer :) YEA
PrinceDimeXI 3 years ago
Do you have "FACTS" Or Sources ? Or do you enjoy talking shit from the side of your mouth.
You niggers think this is a car you can jack. This is a country you stupid SAMBO.
But I guess ALL Niggers are dumb, No too Smart are ya?
You MUG Face APES, still walking today with your knuckles scraping the ground. Or, Your still swinging from tree to tree in search of a Banana. You Fucking Cotton picking Slave.
Faraoh08 3 years ago
your about as stupid as they come HERES A FACT YOUR PEOPLE DEVIRED FROM CAVE MONKEYS called neantherdal :) NOW WHOS DRAGGING KNUCKLES respect the people who brought you out of your cave and taught you life WE ARE THE CRO MAGNUS bitch. THATS YOUR HISTORY BOY.
PrinceDimeXI 3 years ago
Your JUST another Nigger Slaves under my Pharaonic FOOT!!!!!!
Faraoh08 3 years ago
Faroah you are a typical Arab invader racist who thinks he is an Egyptian just cause his ancestors stole our lands, a 100 Million proud Black Americans will liberate their ancestoral lands from Kemet to Canaan
Lebanon, Israel, Palestine & Egypt are Black nations that were Black in the bible and history and will always be that way
Blackpower718 3 years ago
Dream on SAMBO, Or should i call you..Cotton Picker...
Faraoh08 3 years ago
whats funny is that say these people date back to the B.C. but dont have no blood ties to the SEA PEOPLE :) so they did not travel to egypt nor did they create carthage :) they COPIED EVERYTHING FROM THE SEA PEOPLE!!!!! lmao they jump started these muthafuckas lmao...
PrinceDimeXI 3 years ago
wow well the phoenicans were before the sea peoples or hiksos and they didnt even colonize the medditeranean.
StrikeForce20 3 years ago
dont you see it ODD that they found a WHITE MUMMY in an EGPYTIAN TOMB lmao SEEMS KIND OF SETUP TO ME... lmao
PrinceDimeXI 3 years ago
Stupid to call a mummy white or black when Egyptians had a variety of skin colors and racial characteristics, from pale to reddish brown to black.
Are you so ashamed of your own heritage you have to rely on someone else's to feel good about yourself?
truthisholy 3 years ago
The Semites and Europeans stamped us as Black and evil by their GOD, so its very important to remind the desert dwelling Semites and cave living European that we are the founders of human civilization!
Blackpower718 3 years ago
Hey You Stupid Negro, It's easy to make of idiots like you.
"They are not valiant men, they are miserable, both tails and bodies; my majesty saw it myself, it is no fable" (Semna Stela W.M.Flinders Petrie A History of Egypt, Part One, page 189)
Faraoh08 3 years ago
My majesty has seen it, it is not an untruth. I have captured their women, I have carried off their subjects, went to their wells, killed their cattle, cut down their grain, set fire to it. As my father lives for me, I speak the truth! It is no boast that comes from my mouth. (Semna Stela year 16 - W.M.Flinders Petrie A History of Egypt, Part One, page 188)
Faraoh08 3 years ago
"He hath overthrown the chief of the Nubians, the black is helpless, defenseless in his grasp. He hath united the boundaries of his two sides, there is not a remnant among the curly-haired who can come attack him. There is not a single survivor among them. The Nubian troglodytes fall by the sword and are thrust aside in their lands. Their foulness, it floods their valley and their mouths like a violent
Faraoh08 3 years ago
Cont:
flood, the fragments cut from them are too much for the birds, carrying off the prey to another place." (Tombos Stela of Thutmose I; "We Can't Go Home Again" - Clarence Walker 2001; "Ancient Egypt" - David P Silverman, 2003)
Faraoh08 3 years ago
Its funny how Arabs and Europeans claim they are researching and keep hiding all the evidence thats proves Phoenicia was Black.
Blackpower718 3 years ago
what evidence? the only evidence you have you stupid fuck is a broken statue and some quote from the bible.
Phoenicia wasnt black you retard!
why do you black nationalist ppl always try to claim other ppl civilizations as your own.
Lebanon is closer to European Mediterrenian than it is Africa so tell me how can its native population be black?
MissLoubnan2008 3 years ago
The current population of Lebanon is Arab invader and some Crusdaers. The original population was Black. I know that the population today is all terrorist Arab invaders & some Armenians, the original population is what made Phoenicia great not your terrorist people
Blackpower718 3 years ago
@ Blackpower please go kill yourself!
GREEKxxPRINCESS 3 years ago
@ Greek thats all your good for killing!
Alexander claim to glory was killing lots of people! Unlike the Great black cultures that built in peace without killing others!
Blackpower718 3 years ago
lmaoo dude ur fuckin brainwashed, go away.
GREEKxxPRINCESS 3 years ago
You just can't handle the TRUTH Miss FAKE boobs
Blackpower718 3 years ago
haha this guy is funny!
GREEKxxPRINCESS 3 years ago
The genocide of my people by the Arabs and Europeans is not a laughing matter
Blackpower718 3 years ago
LMFAOO Mr Black Power, how much do they pay you at that low-budget comedy club of yours? HAHA!
GREEKxxPRINCESS 3 years ago
Will it still be funny if we laugh about the Turks killing & raping your people?
Blackpower718 3 years ago
hunny you have freedom to believe in whatever you want, i just choose to laugh it! HAHA!
GREEKxxPRINCESS 3 years ago
I guess If we were picking cotton ALL day long with the sun beating down our heads it's easy to see what went wrong with these black retards.
I'm just wondering IF his Knuckles are still scraping the ground as he walks .
Faraoh08 3 years ago
Don't worry hun, These Black Idiots are saying the same exact thing about us.
Their calling us Invaders as well.
Hey Retard, Blackweak Asshole, why do most of your people still live in mud huts and waiting to be fed IF your people are so Smart?
You fucking Idiot, you have an IQ of a lemon and it's easy to see why your people are the weakest people in this world, you SLAVES made me laugh. By the way, how does it feel to be picking cotton ALL DAY LONG LMAOF You Retard .
Faraoh08 3 years ago 3
The real Phoenicians are Black Christian Phoenicians like Briggite Gabriel, the rest are Lebanese Arab terrorist invaders mixed with some Barbarian Crusaders.
The original Phoenicians Were BLACK CANAANITES, Lebanese Arabs are not Phoenicians they are cultural goons who came raped our beautiful Black nation and forced them to become Semites
Blackpower718 3 years ago
Sorry first time using youtube to post a comment! ignore the last 2 comments lol
Lebfury85 3 years ago
GREEKxxprincess, listen carfully to what he says, he did NOT say less then 20% of the LEBANESE population, he said less the 20% of the population carries the Phoenician marker, he was refering to the population of Carthage. And then he goes on to say that the modern day lebanese and the Phoenicians as well as the Canaanites are the same people. Carthage is a Colony, its normal that you would find such small % of the population carrying the Phoenician Gene.
Lebfury85 3 years ago
GREEKxxprincess, listen carfully to what he says, he did NOT say less then 20% of the LEBANESE population, he said less the 20% of the population carries the Phoenician marker, he was refering to the population of Carthage. And then he goes on to say that the modern day lebanese and the Phoenicians as well as the Canaanites are the same people. Carthage is a Colony, its normal that you would find such small % of the population carrying the Phoenician Gene.
Lebfury85 3 years ago
Greekxxprincess, listen carefully, he DID NOT say less then 20% of the LEBANESE population, he said less then 20% of the population carries the Phoenician marker. He was refering to the population of Carthage in Tunisia. Then he said that the modern day Lebanese and Phoenicians as well as the Canaanites are the same people. Carthage is simply a colony, its normal that the odds of having Phoenician Genes are small, but not in Lebanon, the home of the Phoenicians!
Lebfury85 3 years ago
Moddyloc:Thanks for posting this valubale series, ppl like you makes U Tube role. Very proud to be a phoenicians decendant
wsm1z2y 3 years ago
This video is confusing, that man says in.. 2:10
"Less than 20% of todays Lebanese population carries the Phoenician marker"
then he goes on and says that this probably means that Phoenician influence is not big in Lebanon, and then he goes and says that the lebanese are phoenicians, which was ODD! lol
GREEKxxPRINCESS 3 years ago
Those 20% is in the Greatest Phoenician colony of Carthage wich is located in present day Tunesia.
So that doesnt say anything about the population in Libanon.
tizitl 3 years ago
2:10
"Less than 20% of todays Lebanese population carries the Phoenician marker"
GREEKxxPRINCESS 3 years ago
Thanks again for such an interesting series, I have always loved History and Geography. With such kind ppl like yourself putting all these on YT, I could enjoy my love for these two subjects. BTW, I am a middle aged retiree, so i have time to watch all these programs.
RupertQP 3 years ago