Alex Jones routinely calls for violence against people that he is opposed to. It's no surprise that he finds himself having to distance himself and put spin on events where people who follow him, act on his words and do things like shooting at the White House, or the Pentagon, or Tuscon, etc... The list goes on and on. Sociopath is the right term to describe him. Plus, money is a motivator and whenever people like Alex Jones gets any, they get more brazen.
I totally agree with the Jones thing but Timothy McVeigh did not blow up that building with a truckload of fertilizer. There were multiple bombs placed and those that did not detonate, had to be carefully removed afterwards.
@superviewer the tips that came claiming there were other bombs turned out to be false. if you think it was just fertilizer than you need a course in explosive chemistry
Of the part this chap perfectly looks and fits: That he would accuse others of being; rather it is he himself who is a sociopath, perhaps[?]. Proclamations made in a dimly lit room in front of a web cam as though they consist of reasoned argument, thought- but are nothing of the kind - are example of a willful contempt and deep envy that perhaps drives one, such as this contemptible character, to spew unchallenged his diatribes. You know nothing of intelligence, sir. you're a joke
One difference I notice between Alex and yourself is that he uses his full name, please tell us yours as you feel you have such a right to abuse his name I think this would only be fair...Please also tell me how much money is made from posting youtube videos and hosting websites. Alex is an investigative journalist and if people want to hear what he has to say then they have every right to DONATE to help him continue his work....
@o0TobiWAN0o sorry but you my friend are a fucking idiot. The shit that alex jones says is almost.......... damm its hard for me to even put into words, its just so dammm fucking stupid. He thinks the very worst out of every possible rumor and tells his listeners to act fast or else. Like when the movie machete came out. He said there was a 95% chance there was going to be a race war with the mexicans and whites should be ready because mexicans are going to be running wild, killing whites.
@o0TobiWAN0o you know how absurd that sounds? This guy is right. Alex Jones makes a buck off of your fear. He also makes aloooooooot of stuff up that is simply bull shit. He was also one of the main sources for that whole fucking y2k shit. He scares the shit out of people and he knows it.
@KINGARTHUR3341 Thanks for your opinion, nice of you to comment on my intelligence with no knowledge of who I am.....I was speaking with someone recently and shared this opinion.....
"I understand your feelings for Alex Jones however I cannot have little or no respect for any human being that I feel is working for good rather than bad, as I feel is the case here............."
@KINGARTHUR3341 ...............Whether he is entirely accurate or not I feel he does a lot of good work and makes people aware of what is really going on. I feel there should be more of a negative reflection on the people who entirely believe everything that he talks about without further investigation themselves, than on Alex himself"
And more to the point if people wish to pay for his INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM then they have every right to DONATE to fund this.
@o0TobiWAN0o But really, to look at everything as a conspiracy and to report it as fact should tell you that he is just waiting for some stupid little rumor,gossip,myth so he can say "breaking news, this is serious people, apparently the nwo has now blah blah blah. This is now confirmed and people should blah blah blah." And to scare the shit out of his listeners like that, one of these days someone is going to get paranoid enough to go out there and commit a serious crime.
@KINGARTHUR3341 Especially, when being British myself, we are FORCED to pay out every year for propaganda from the BBC. That is far from a donation trust me......
@o0TobiWAN0o Look, alex jones is not who he says he is. Like this guy says "he throws in a fact or two" to make himself look creditable. You might think that he does good journalism and gets extreme from time to time
@o0TobiWAN0o here I looked up a video (i knew there had to be some videos capturing his stupidity). This is one of the many examples where this moron proves he nothing more than an attention whore. you tube: "alex jones makes himself look like an idiot again"
@KINGARTHUR3341 firstly thanks for your reply and change of tone. I do agree with you, which is I made my original point, however I have to stress that should this not be more of a reflection on anyone who takes what he says as the complete truth without investigation. I feel Alex has been made aware of a number of serious issues that do hold a lot of truth and for this reason he may loose control at times and let his mouth run havoc before understanding and investigating new information........
@KINGARTHUR3341 firstly thanks for your reply and change of tone. I do agree with you, which is I made my original point, however I have to stress that should this not be more of a reflection on anyone who takes what he says as the complete truth without investigation. I feel Alex has been made aware of a number of serious issues that do hold a lot of truth and for this reason he may loose control at times and let his mouth run havoc before understanding and investigating new information.......
@KINGARTHUR3341 ......on this point I agree with you fully, this is not right, however I feel this is due to Alex's individual personality and individuality should not be abused. If you disagree with it, that is understandable, that is the beauty of it. That is YOUR individuality. I simply dont think it is right to discredit anothers individual beliefs and behaviour. Especially from a distance as I do not feel that is fair.....
@KINGARTHUR3341 I would like to add that in no way is this an argument against your opinion, I am just offering mine. I have a lot of respect for both yourself and your opinion and also the fact that you supported it and took the time to reply to me. Thanks : )
Bush's people would not have wanted the destruction of the WTC to look like it was a controlled demolition. They would have wanted to make it appear to be a structural failure .If anything, the fact that it may have appeared to be a controlled demolition is more proof that it was not.If yuo want to fool the masses you don't do something that can expose your involvment.
Some sicko wrote that the Jews are behind having mercury in the shots.
Five countries had warned the FBI that they picked up chatter about an imminint threat . Why would the usa make a controlled demolition? Why would Bush want a controlled demolition when he could have had more people killed and more property damage with an uncontrolled demolition. ?
@xsithos ive gotten all my vaccinations and so has every child in a public school in america. but keep making up facts rather than deal with the real facts. a lack of vaccines has killed many more folks this year than any vaccine in history.
@battim Well first off, not every child in school in America has gotten all their vaccinations. So your kinda saying half truths, and I'll note you links to show the research of the mercury... but alot of what AJ says are predictions. If you have a brain you should read predictions as=> half BS because THEY ARE until its proven.
Now if we are talking sheeple who are scared shitless because they cant think for themselves... they would be misguided by ignorace one way or another.
@xsithos. Children in the public school system must have their vaccinations. The overwhelming consensus of science is not one study. Lol. Again...there is literally more mercury in a can of tuna than a vaccine.
@battim Yet, all states, except Mississippi and West Virginia, grant religious exemptions. Twenty states allow philosophical exemptions for those who object to immunizations because of personal, moral or other beliefs.
Look, the truth is right there; you are wrong. Some people don't want any mercury in their systems, and they will be the ones that push for getting safer medicines.
Its ok to dislike AJ; its ok to be highly skeptical of what he says; But you're totally misinformed... =\
@xsithos. Religious exemptions is not the same as saying you won't do it based on junk science. The religious who put their kids at risk of catching deadly disease are evil folks. Vaccines has literally wiped out dozens of diseases. You are misinformed. The consensus of science completely disagree with you. Fact.
@battim You know what else is a fact. If they had to put "This medicine contains Mercury a POISON" on every product they sold that had Thiomersal in it, it wouldn't be long before they were forced to come up with a preservative without the fuckin poison in it. Just like back in the 1950's when they had to remove calomel. It was a common ingredient in teething powders up until 1954, and caused widespread mercury poisoning , which at the time had a mortality rate of 1 in 10. ANY Mercury = bad
@battim What you need to learn here is that the studies you like to refer to were and still are funded by the same drug companies who profit from them. Don't you know this how the whole medical system works? Those studies that show the vaccines in a bad light don't get published. Only those with favorable results get the "peer reviewed" status. It is all about the money and when you begin to understand that 2nd part eugenics also plays a huge roll as well. Eugenics is alive and well in America!
@battim "consensus of science" sound like Al Gore & just as dishonest too. Yes but it's not injected into a babies undeveloped immune system. Explain why there's no autism in the Amish people? THEY DON"T GET VACCINATED. You don't need to be a scientist to know there's direct correlation to the increasing number of vaccines and autism. Maybe you should look into Dr Blaylock the brain surgeon on this matter. I think he knows a little more than you. Debunk this. Genius: /watch?v=aUCCdCecLTo
Do I believe in reptillians, you ask? Well, I'm reluctant to respond to your set up for another head spinningly fallacious argument. Let me guess, you'd like me to respond yes so you can use an array of fallacies such as circumstantial ad hominems(one of your favorites, I've found), an appeal to ridicule, poisoning the well, etc. I believe this is known as a red herring. Interesting.
How is this relevant? Jones isn't even a proponent of that, not that that has anything to do w/ me anyway.
This battim guy is completely full of shit. Either he is ignorant of Jones' work or he is deliberately misrepresenting it. He say Jones supported McVeigh's work in OKC when in fact Jones presented evidence that US agencies were involved in the bombing. Then he states Jones is trying to scare people by using the word pandemic re: H1N1. Jones' argument has always been that the H1N1 scare was false and warned all not to take the vaccine.
Further according to WHO, at the time this video was posted h1n1 had appeared in 79 countries so Jones was completely accurate in describing it as a pandemic. Battim also tries to discredit Jones by stating that Jones is wrong to describe a virus as a piece of DNA, "it's not, it's a piece of RNA" says Battim, but a virus is made up of a gene of either RNA or DNA. Jones was referring to the rotavirus vaccines, which in fact contained pig virus DNA, according to the FDA.
He says the govt. didn't make h1n1 because if they had that kind of control they would do it more often. Strange logic there. Then he states since h1n1 is contagious they wouldn't be able to contain it. Irrelevant. Jones is arguing that the vaccine is the danger, not the virus. As the WHO wrote in its Pandemic Report, H1N1 is much less dangerous than seasonal flu.
Misrepresentation after misrepresentation. Who is the disinformist here?
jones has said repeatedly the government invented the virus is a lab. he also claimed it was a stanic plot to coincide with cinco de mayo. the rate of death in vaccine use for h1n1 is about 2 in one million. the rate of death in contracting h1ni is about one in 600. so the odds are in favor of being vaccinated. so the disinformist would be jones.
@battim Rate of death is not the concern with the vaccine, it's the effect on the immune system, making a person more susceptible to the seasonal flu or other illness. According to the WHO, h1n1 is much less dangerous than seasonal flu so why would it be in anyone's interest to take a vaccine that compromises the immune system for a a specific low level virus? Also, the notion that h1n1 was created in a lab did not originate with Jones. It originated from virologists such as Adrian Gibbs.
first of all, you can't keep citing organiozations you have already called illegitimate. lol. you have to make up your mind, are they legitimate or part ofthe conpspriacy, you cant have it both ways. that said, according to the WHO, "The global impact of the current pandemic has not yet been estimated." so stop lying.
@battim Are you just pulling these numbers out of thin air? According to the CDC report from Jan 2010, there were approximately 39 million infections and 8,000 deaths. By my math, that works out to one in 4875.
i said it was a pandemic. i never claimed it was not. i smply gave the proper definition of the term. it simply means an increase in exposure over geograpihcal areas. jones absolutely says the h1n1 virus is DNA. were are speaking of a specific virus, not all virus. the vaccine contains either rna or dna of a virun that is not live.
evidence? what evidence? mcviegh admitted he was responsible, even wrote a book about it. he was absolving mcvieh by claiming he was a victim of mind control. jones never said it was false, he clearly stated on several occasions before he changed his story that the government invented the virus as a test.
@battim In the vid, you claim Jones "supported Timothy McVeigh's action in OKC, bombings where he killed innocent people...it's cowardly" Here you say, correctly, that Jones claims he was a victim of mind control. Big difference.
Then you state "it's disinformation...and it's intentional disinformation so you go to his website and buy his books and the guys is making millions of buck...so, um you know, and, uh, if you watch his blog, on the.. you know it started out the name of it was...
..."pandemic swine flu", now he's changed the title...which shows the propaganda he uses." "The term is semantically are used to scare the living shit out of people." But Jones was correct in labeling a pandemic, so how can you use it as an example of his propaganda? You're the one assuming people don't know what the word means, not surprising considering your arrogance.
Jones doesn't hide behind his microphone, either - he has confronted in person politcal figures, law enforcement, FBI agents and angry crowds over and over again. He's been arrested numerous times. The man has balls, even his worse critics agree to that. And you can't be concerned about things if you're successful? You're just wrong on every count.
a lot of crazy people confront politicians. some even kill them. your point? he was arrested, was he convicted? having balls means youre not crazy? he is succesful promoting lies.
@battim My point is that you say in the vid that Jones hides behind his microphone. Absolutely untrue. You yourself are promoting lies as a result of your untruthful statements.
apparenlty context is what you miss. he then contniues to say that its a government conspiracy, a satanic plot and an experiment to control population. the title hasn't changed. i talk about his sotry as a whole. its progandistic hogwash.
he did support the actions, actually. mcvieh claims to have done it in response to the waco killings. jones has consistently supported that mindset. he also supported mcvieh and a dude who imp;risonedand brainwashed people claiming he was the messiah. no difference. are you caliming mcvieh was mind controlled? if not was it ok to kill folks to in response to waco?
@battim So anyone, according to your rational, who is critical of the Waco event supports McVeigh? That's quite the leap. I never have any hinted at claiming that McVeigh was mind controlled. I agreed with your statement that Jones claims McVeigh was mind controlled. See, this is the kind of leap you make, that in addition to your ad hominem attacks, that shows your statements are hackneyed BS.
when they excuse mcviehs behaviorm, yes. jones excused his behavior (and i have no idea why jones would care, considering, he agreed with the rationale behind the bombing). when one makes a crazy defense (mind control indeed) to make a rationale for a murderer, thats called defending them. you are vmaking the leap with your made up numbers from the WHO, who jones says is in on the conspiracy.
@battim You clearly are stating in the vid that Jones supports terrorism because he supported the OKC bombing. Again, claiming that McVeigh was mind controlled does not equate to condoning or encouraging terrorism.
Where exactly have I referred to the WHO as an illegitimate organization?? Look, you are the one citing figures without a source, I was giving the WHO numbers to point out the fact you are just making stuff up. What is the source for your figures?
what i said is he is supporting a terrorist. yes. when you give a homocidal maniac an excuse for said behavior citing that he was "mind cotrolled" with on evidence whatsoever...well. lol. that said your statistics. regardless you were making claims that were untrue. your paranoai is a wasted effort.
@Gtfoots i am amazied at idiots like you who folow morons like alex jones. the only morons are ones who accept conspiracies with no scientific proof. i go by logic and reason, you go by crazy silly weridness.
@battim "the only morons are ones who accept conspiracies with no scientific proof"
So I guess all the studies done on the major increase in autism has nothing to do with the increased number of vaccines that are required.
Have you heard about the new vaccines that keep you calm and tranquil. The Government says it is good for you but I'm not so sure. Why dont you google "Brain Eating Vaccines". I'm sure you will side with the establishment but I still think you should know.
@TripleC86 . All those studies that have been peer reviewed and found that there is no correlation between autism and vaccines. In fact, we have no idea what causes autism. That's called junk scienxe. Jim carrey and oprah are not scientists. Not one of those studies have been replicated and peer review has destroeyed their validity. There has no been a study that proves a link between mercury and autism.
Well the study on mercury poisoning from Thiomerisal in infants that I saw suggested that the development regression from the mercury was "similar" to the symptoms of autisim. So it doesn't cause autisim, the fact is it causes "similar symptoms".
Take that for what its worth; but isn't it just as bad? =\
Look, the bottom line is that the pharmaceutical companies won't spend their money making this stuff safe if people dont go after them. Thats just how things work...
@xsithos you really are lost the more you write. first of all vaccines are not nor have they ever been money makers for pharm companies. ever. autistic children and children who have similiar symptoms to autism have never ever been shown to have higher mercury levels at any time in their lives. you are lying to people. mouth powder is not administered in controlled doses by a medical professional, your metaphor is faulty. that said thermisol hasnt been used in vaccines since 2004.
I never said mercury causes autisim. Your strawman arguments are getting tireing. Its already known mercury in children causes a regression that has similar symptoms to autisim. It isn't autisim, like I said: just similar symptoms.
Your not even reading what I wrote.
Its not going to bankrupt the pharmacy to make cuts on the safe side of things to keep even small amounts of poisons like mercury out of their products. There are other preservatives out there besides Thiomerisal.
@xsithos no its doesn't please state the study that indicates that. you are lying. its nto similiar symptoms for trace amounts found in former vaccines. thermisol is no longer used.
quote:" Exposure to mercury has previously been shown to cause immune, sensory, neurological, motor, and behavioral dysfunctions similar to traits defining or associated with autistic disorders."
Its poison, Look up MINAMATA DISEASE. If I put trace amounts in my blood every year it won't cause much harm? I won't notice the effects?
@xsithos exposure to higher concentrations of mercury. in context. its all about dosage. water is poison in large doses. so are vitamins and iron. but in low doses they are actually beneficial. again, you are taking things out of context, that study did not show that low doses of mercury in a vaccine shot cause these side effects, its simply stated that generally "exposure to mercury" can cause these thing. exposure to iron can do similiar things in higher doses. one study is all ya got?
@xsithos you also ignore the fact that the sudy you are citing showed no causal likn between Thimerosal and neural damage. why do you pick this tiny paragraph out of context from a study that disproves your theories? very odd you'd quote a study that completely obliterates your arguments. lol. typical really of conspiracists.
@battim I originally posted that to disprove what another poster on your page said about autisim being related to mercury. Though it IS proven that mercury does hurt the brain; and that putting it directly into the bloodstream is worse than eating it. The tests on animals showed that.
Stop with the pointless strawman arguments. I cant discuss with you if you are going to be senselessly skeptical. If your going to be skeptical, you have to be reasonable as well.
@xsithos once again your science is poor. A 2008 study found that the half-life of blood mercury after vaccination with thiomersal-containing vaccines averages 3.7 days for newborns and infants, much shorter than the 44 days for methylmercury. continued...
@battim Ethylmercury clears from the brain in about 14 days in infant monkeys. Inorganic mercury metabolized from ethylmercury has a much longer clearance, at least 120 days; it appears to be much less toxic than the inorganic mercury produced from mercury vapor, for reasons not yet understood
@battim The only debatable part of this whole conversation:
We have to weigh the amount of damage Thiomerisal causes in trace amounts when put directly into the bloodstream, AGAINST making pharmaceutical companies come up with another preservative.
discuss with me
They foolishly chose to use the preservative with the poison mercury; which people would obviously oppose using. It was their decision; people just wont believe a trace amount does zero damage. Thats why they now use others.
@xsithos they have done hundred of studies that you simply ignore that show the there is no relationship to Thiomerisal and nervous system complications. none. you also ignore the fact its not even used anymore. lol. you are whining and crying over something that is not even used in childrens vaccines anymore. i have no idea what your point is.
@battim "vaccines are not nor have they ever been money makers for pharm companies. ever." WTF! you call him a liar?. Sir, YOU ARE THE LIAR! OR PAID SHILL OR BOTH! Nobody could be as smart as you "sound" without an agenda and so little proof. How is it that the government gave 8 billion to the drug companies for H1N1? No money?!! Yes vaccines are huge money makers. Why would AL Gore and Obama be so heavily invested in them then? Obama tried so hard to push them he lied saying his kids got them!
@zenman44 its not a lie. the reocrds are clear. its subsidized to break even. you can make up your alex jone truths all you want, but the facts are facts. the government gave them 8 billion and how much did it cost to make them in a such a rapid amount of time? is it a surprise that the virus has been virtually wiped out in less than a yeat? brack obama is not allowed investments as president of the united states. you can take your lies elsewhere.
@xsithos now its apparent to me you like to lie to people. the one study by andrew wakefield that claimed a link between Thimerosol and autism has NEVER been replicated. its been disproved hundred of times. literally. hundreds. you are practicing post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacies all over here. you ignore science and believe in junk science. there is more mercury in a naval orange than any vaccine on the market today. you have not given one fact that relative.
@battim You are dead wrong.No mercury in vaccines? It's right there on the package insert dude. It's not just mercury/thimeresol that causes autism. It's the adjuvant oil that cause more harm when injected. This is what causes Gulf War Syndrome. You are wrong about Alex Jones. He knows and tells it on his show that Timothy McVey was working in military intelligence and like Oswald was sacrificial lamb. Lot's of evidence to show Oklahoma City was another inside job like 911. You must be a shill!
@zenman44 no. it hasn't been used in childrens vaccine since 2001 and in 2004 for all vaccines. mcvey was a private. he never worked for DIA. lol. a private doesn't get the kind of clearance you are speaiking of. gotta love you conspriacists, you make shit up with no proof. alex says so and you beleive. sheep.
911summarydotcom Not sure what research could lead you to believe the official story. Google 9 11 barely anyone really believes any of the official story including more than half of the 9 11 commissioners. Google "without Precedent" its a book...written by the 9 11 commissioners...READ IT. Then talk about research. You people like in la la land.
Alex has been on major news and they didnt air his interviews. Of course you dont believe me..because YOU haven't done your research. Maybe you should read without precedent. Written by 2 of the 9 11 commissioners who say specifically that the gov. lied and covered up not just failed with their intelligence programs. Did you know Alex also predicted 9 11 to a T? No you didnt. Maybe Alex Jones just knows what he is talking about.
he didnt predict it to a tea. he simply stated there'd be a terrorist attack and we'd blame al quaeda. boy thats an easy prediction considering how many times its actually happened. lol. he never predicted planes. bin laden admitted to 9.11
@battim Actually Bin Laden didnt admit that he attacked us on 9/11. His supporters actually said they would turn him in if we could provide proof that he did it.
BTW you apparently havent been keeping up with your Mainstream Media news or you would know that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is the "admitted mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks".
If your going to regurgitate propaganda, alteast stay up to date on it.
@TripleC86. You are clueless. Bin laden has cited al quaeda involvement in 911 several time. Its not msm, he has made videos for al jazeera stating it
Its really sad how infected his show is with crappy products nobody will buy. Colloidal Silver Lungs? Give me a break. Commercials for water purifiers, buying gold, buying seedsmost of which he claims to use. Yeah right. Theyre paid to advertise on his show and Alex probably charges a premium if the advertisers want him to say he uses them. He uses scare tactics on his own fans to buy his stuff and buy the paid advertisers products. He is laughing all the way to the bank.
@Konstrict Yeah dont buy gold and clean water. Never you mind that the dollar is about to tank along with every fiat currency in the history of mankind. While Gold has gone from 300 an ounce to about 1300 an once in a very short time even with all the market supression to keep your money in stocks and debt notes. Never you mind the Fluoride in your water that the Nazi germans first came up with. Just keep drinking your poisons and buying debts be a good american.
lol. can you explain why the dollar is actually getting stornger as we speak? gold, like any commodity, bubbles. flouride and nazis. lol. tin foil caps. you paranoid whackos never cease to amaze me. got your bomb shleter and canned good ready too? lol.
You are a hopeful day dreamer, things are going bad - you stick your head in the sand. If you lived in Nazi Germany you would have thought that Hitler was a good guy and of course he wouldn't murder millions of jews - what a silly thing to say! And if you lived in Russia - you would have never believed what Stalin could do. YOU need to wake up. Big time.
why? Its true isn't it.? Millions DID NOT believe Hitler had evil plans, they thought he was GREAT. Winston Churchill was derided and laughed down when he spoke out against Hitler and warned people about his agenda. Alex Jones is doing an amazing job, trying to wake the sheep up. wakey wakey........
How do you KNOW that no one in America is GOING to do what Hitler did? How are you so sure? Germany before Hitler took over was well-off, cultured and admired. So how do you know that Alex Jones isn't right?
Look around you. Stop believing everything the media tells you. The show IS controlled by the BANKERS because MONEY rules the world. Many of these things are happening NOW. There is no conspiracy about it. Again, I don't understand your weird, depraved logic....don't want to...but Alex is probably, spot on about many things.
Well you and alex jones have the liberty to spew your lies. Not nazi like. Gays are getting rights instead of slaughtered. Gun ownership is up and the supreme court upheld that right. What is nazi like?
The censorship is more sneaky then with the nazis. Hidden. But the laws are encroaching more and more on civil liberties. We DO have freedom, but that freedom is being curtailed more and more. I mentioned the nazis - because you are sceptical about all these 'conspiracy theories' and I compared those theories and your unbelief to the utter unbelief in Europe and the world during the 1940's that German (civilised) people could be capable of utter evil.
@battim "invoking nazi germany is intellectual failure." Another logically fallacious argument. Straw man? Begging the question? False dilemma? Appeal to consequences of a belief? I can't decide.
its true he may just be selling fear, but this whole war is based on fear . the govt said we have to go to war or we will be killed by them . which i dont believe either. so i listen to both sides and try to be unbiased and make my own decision
I from time to time listen to what the man has to say, and with more than a grain of salt. One thing he preaches is that the "sheeple" blindly follow leaders and how it's so asinine, however even after hammering that into peoples head they defend the man at every single facet. They're no better than this herd of sheeple that they think they're so sepperated from, but are more just a matrix of them. He cuts off anyone with a logical retort and his following is very cultish.
i am a football fan, but porn not so much. that said, again you dont want to talk about the issues, you want to personally attack. typical alex jones stuff. you need help with your paranoia. they have good meds for it.
and here, you are advocating free speach, while saying that he shouldn't say anything. Free speech does not mean that someone who speaks up is safe from disagreement and attack. You also use a personal attack directly AFTER attacking him for using a personal attack. You are a hypocrite, i have found several examples of that in your simple two sentences. I have no real opinion either way on this whole "conspiracy" thing.
You either don"t get it, or you are a gov agent- do you think people are stupid, and they won't click on links provided and research the info?
Alex Jones exposes info that is documented, a lot of times mainstream articles that people overlook or don't fully understand. For people who are STILL in denial: you deserve your destiny!
No, but where are you getting this information from?. All the conspiracy theories that I've heard I have researched for myself, I have yet to find a reason that would lead me to the conclusion that you have found yourself. To be quite honest if I hadn't actually done research to look into Alex Jones theories i would think he is a complete lunatic but the information is right in front of me I'd be stupid to not acknowledge it, Maybe you should try doing the same.
@shawnmd shawn you really are lost. googling things is not research. listening to charlie sheen or watching a youtube video is not research. give me academic references that agree with alex jones that are scientific in any way. please.
Why don't you remove the useless stats in your info bar and give us some proof behind your statements. We aren't sponges ready to soak up your every word. I advise everyone to find proof in what people are telling you. Alex Jones does not ask you to believe anything he says but instead to do the research for yourself.
Alex Jones was the first one to say that the whole swine flu thing was nothing but fear-mongering. You have completely misunderstood what he was saying.
so his response was to fear monger himself by saying it will give the government an excuse to use fema camps? he also said it was generated in a lab and used on the poplace, thats not fear mongering?
I've never heard that Alex Jones supported McVeigh's actions. In fact I heard him say that McVeigh was a CIA black ops puppet. That Alex Jones at one time supported McVeigh is a pretty damning allegation... Can you point us to proof? - thanks!
I think it would be in humanity's best interest to take guidence from the fictional world not just dismiss it as nonsense that has no relevence to reality. The truth is the fictional world is the main reason humans have the capacity to create and communicate. Otherwise we are just animals who only exist to destroy.
here is a scenario for you all what if the world was all facts and figures? Would people want to live in it? Do facts give people the courage and will to live on even though they have felt so much pain?
With your sceince you will only drive humanity towards more ignorance and destruction. Humans are more than just flesh and blood. The real world is but only a mere catalyst that supports all life. Without these fictional things humans would just be animals destroying each other.
You are wrong about there being only 1-2 vacines for viruses, I believe. People have been using vacines for viruses for several hundred years now. There are vacines for dozens of strains of flu viruses alone, I believe. But other than that a very good presentation in my humble opinion.
Alex Jones is full of crap. He takes things out of context, misrepresents his videos, acts paranoid or makes it look as though he is. He employs guilt by association, he is involved in character assassination, he is, an unrepentant sociopath who is making money out of exploiting the fears out of collective unconscious. He is as much as a person who pretends to have a PhD and not know what a dissertation is. If you disagree with him, you are part of an imaginary conspiracy.
For some strange reason, this video came up during a search about Alex Jones. I wasn't searching for Oklahoma bombing or Timothy Mcwhatever he's called. Title your vids properly...
when its track record was 100% untill the morning of 911, that just a failure is it? and thats just for starters! all the things alex talks about you can check out for yourself, do your own research on google or even check out past main streem news clips that are funnely enough not shown that often, remember they dont drill into our heads what they dont want us to know, unlike with terrorism or the swine flu! stop trying to make excuse's for
your an idiot, you think alex jones like to report this stuff? course he doesn't. yes he does have an agender, to warn the rest of us about what our government's are doing. if he was that bothered about making money he wouldn't be telling people as often as he does to go watch his films on google/ you tube for FREE!!! or tell people to copy it and give it away, again for free! and as for no proof on 911, are you actually serious? norad failling as many times in 1 day as it did
the common cold is pandemic. and no i do not believe the government made swine flu. that is the subject here, triangulate elsewhere. the government can set off a nuke, think their gonna do it in an american city too? the possiblity does not logically jump to....that it is happening.
Alex Jones routinely calls for violence against people that he is opposed to. It's no surprise that he finds himself having to distance himself and put spin on events where people who follow him, act on his words and do things like shooting at the White House, or the Pentagon, or Tuscon, etc... The list goes on and on. Sociopath is the right term to describe him. Plus, money is a motivator and whenever people like Alex Jones gets any, they get more brazen.
MrSkunkwork100 2 months ago
This person is a fucking lying little cunt
iconoclast911 3 months ago
supported McVey's acts? prove it
iconoclast911 3 months ago
I totally agree with the Jones thing but Timothy McVeigh did not blow up that building with a truckload of fertilizer. There were multiple bombs placed and those that did not detonate, had to be carefully removed afterwards.
superviewer 11 months ago
@superviewer the tips that came claiming there were other bombs turned out to be false. if you think it was just fertilizer than you need a course in explosive chemistry
battim 11 months ago
this guy stinks i quit at 2:00 minutes....he don't know his a__ from a whole in the ground....alot of guessing going on.
clking61 1 year ago
@clking61 but someone who follows alex jones is an academic mastermind, huh? refute what i am saying using academic sourcing.
battim 11 months ago
Of the part this chap perfectly looks and fits: That he would accuse others of being; rather it is he himself who is a sociopath, perhaps[?]. Proclamations made in a dimly lit room in front of a web cam as though they consist of reasoned argument, thought- but are nothing of the kind - are example of a willful contempt and deep envy that perhaps drives one, such as this contemptible character, to spew unchallenged his diatribes. You know nothing of intelligence, sir. you're a joke
RoninMaximus 1 year ago
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o0TobiWAN0o 1 year ago
Stop paying your TV licence!!! : P LAWFUL Rebellion....
o0TobiWAN0o 1 year ago
One difference I notice between Alex and yourself is that he uses his full name, please tell us yours as you feel you have such a right to abuse his name I think this would only be fair...Please also tell me how much money is made from posting youtube videos and hosting websites. Alex is an investigative journalist and if people want to hear what he has to say then they have every right to DONATE to help him continue his work....
o0TobiWAN0o 1 year ago
@o0TobiWAN0o sorry but you my friend are a fucking idiot. The shit that alex jones says is almost.......... damm its hard for me to even put into words, its just so dammm fucking stupid. He thinks the very worst out of every possible rumor and tells his listeners to act fast or else. Like when the movie machete came out. He said there was a 95% chance there was going to be a race war with the mexicans and whites should be ready because mexicans are going to be running wild, killing whites.
KINGARTHUR3341 1 year ago
@o0TobiWAN0o you know how absurd that sounds? This guy is right. Alex Jones makes a buck off of your fear. He also makes aloooooooot of stuff up that is simply bull shit. He was also one of the main sources for that whole fucking y2k shit. He scares the shit out of people and he knows it.
KINGARTHUR3341 1 year ago
@KINGARTHUR3341 Thanks for your opinion, nice of you to comment on my intelligence with no knowledge of who I am.....I was speaking with someone recently and shared this opinion.....
"I understand your feelings for Alex Jones however I cannot have little or no respect for any human being that I feel is working for good rather than bad, as I feel is the case here............."
o0TobiWAN0o 1 year ago
@KINGARTHUR3341 ...............Whether he is entirely accurate or not I feel he does a lot of good work and makes people aware of what is really going on. I feel there should be more of a negative reflection on the people who entirely believe everything that he talks about without further investigation themselves, than on Alex himself"
And more to the point if people wish to pay for his INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM then they have every right to DONATE to fund this.
o0TobiWAN0o 1 year ago
@o0TobiWAN0o But really, to look at everything as a conspiracy and to report it as fact should tell you that he is just waiting for some stupid little rumor,gossip,myth so he can say "breaking news, this is serious people, apparently the nwo has now blah blah blah. This is now confirmed and people should blah blah blah." And to scare the shit out of his listeners like that, one of these days someone is going to get paranoid enough to go out there and commit a serious crime.
KINGARTHUR3341 1 year ago
@KINGARTHUR3341 Especially, when being British myself, we are FORCED to pay out every year for propaganda from the BBC. That is far from a donation trust me......
o0TobiWAN0o 1 year ago
@o0TobiWAN0o Look, alex jones is not who he says he is. Like this guy says "he throws in a fact or two" to make himself look creditable. You might think that he does good journalism and gets extreme from time to time
KINGARTHUR3341 1 year ago
@o0TobiWAN0o here I looked up a video (i knew there had to be some videos capturing his stupidity). This is one of the many examples where this moron proves he nothing more than an attention whore. you tube: "alex jones makes himself look like an idiot again"
KINGARTHUR3341 1 year ago
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@KINGARTHUR3341 firstly thanks for your reply and change of tone. I do agree with you, which is I made my original point, however I have to stress that should this not be more of a reflection on anyone who takes what he says as the complete truth without investigation. I feel Alex has been made aware of a number of serious issues that do hold a lot of truth and for this reason he may loose control at times and let his mouth run havoc before understanding and investigating new information........
o0TobiWAN0o 1 year ago
@KINGARTHUR3341 firstly thanks for your reply and change of tone. I do agree with you, which is I made my original point, however I have to stress that should this not be more of a reflection on anyone who takes what he says as the complete truth without investigation. I feel Alex has been made aware of a number of serious issues that do hold a lot of truth and for this reason he may loose control at times and let his mouth run havoc before understanding and investigating new information.......
o0TobiWAN0o 1 year ago
@KINGARTHUR3341 ......on this point I agree with you fully, this is not right, however I feel this is due to Alex's individual personality and individuality should not be abused. If you disagree with it, that is understandable, that is the beauty of it. That is YOUR individuality. I simply dont think it is right to discredit anothers individual beliefs and behaviour. Especially from a distance as I do not feel that is fair.....
o0TobiWAN0o 1 year ago
@KINGARTHUR3341 I would like to add that in no way is this an argument against your opinion, I am just offering mine. I have a lot of respect for both yourself and your opinion and also the fact that you supported it and took the time to reply to me. Thanks : )
o0TobiWAN0o 1 year ago
''Logic & reason''.....LOL
well, that's not working for you, is it?
alleygh0st 1 year ago
Bush's people would not have wanted the destruction of the WTC to look like it was a controlled demolition. They would have wanted to make it appear to be a structural failure .If anything, the fact that it may have appeared to be a controlled demolition is more proof that it was not.If yuo want to fool the masses you don't do something that can expose your involvment.
43slax 1 year ago
Some sicko wrote that the Jews are behind having mercury in the shots.
Five countries had warned the FBI that they picked up chatter about an imminint threat . Why would the usa make a controlled demolition? Why would Bush want a controlled demolition when he could have had more people killed and more property damage with an uncontrolled demolition. ?
43slax 1 year ago
Jones and his followers are scared of their own shadows.
TheArmy19D 1 year ago
@TripleC86. Me my kids etc have had scores of them. No problems whatosever asshat
battim 1 year ago
@TripleC86 LOL! Yeah lets see him get his vaccination! Don't worry the brain hemmoraging, cancer, and mercury will fix him right up.
xsithos 1 year ago
@xsithos ive gotten all my vaccinations and so has every child in a public school in america. but keep making up facts rather than deal with the real facts. a lack of vaccines has killed many more folks this year than any vaccine in history.
battim 1 year ago
@battim Well first off, not every child in school in America has gotten all their vaccinations. So your kinda saying half truths, and I'll note you links to show the research of the mercury... but alot of what AJ says are predictions. If you have a brain you should read predictions as=> half BS because THEY ARE until its proven.
Now if we are talking sheeple who are scared shitless because they cant think for themselves... they would be misguided by ignorace one way or another.
xsithos 1 year ago
@xsithos. Children in the public school system must have their vaccinations. The overwhelming consensus of science is not one study. Lol. Again...there is literally more mercury in a can of tuna than a vaccine.
battim 1 year ago
@battim Yet, all states, except Mississippi and West Virginia, grant religious exemptions. Twenty states allow philosophical exemptions for those who object to immunizations because of personal, moral or other beliefs.
Look, the truth is right there; you are wrong. Some people don't want any mercury in their systems, and they will be the ones that push for getting safer medicines.
Its ok to dislike AJ; its ok to be highly skeptical of what he says; But you're totally misinformed... =\
xsithos 1 year ago 2
@xsithos. Religious exemptions is not the same as saying you won't do it based on junk science. The religious who put their kids at risk of catching deadly disease are evil folks. Vaccines has literally wiped out dozens of diseases. You are misinformed. The consensus of science completely disagree with you. Fact.
battim 1 year ago
@battim You know what else is a fact. If they had to put "This medicine contains Mercury a POISON" on every product they sold that had Thiomersal in it, it wouldn't be long before they were forced to come up with a preservative without the fuckin poison in it. Just like back in the 1950's when they had to remove calomel. It was a common ingredient in teething powders up until 1954, and caused widespread mercury poisoning , which at the time had a mortality rate of 1 in 10. ANY Mercury = bad
xsithos 1 year ago
@battim What you need to learn here is that the studies you like to refer to were and still are funded by the same drug companies who profit from them. Don't you know this how the whole medical system works? Those studies that show the vaccines in a bad light don't get published. Only those with favorable results get the "peer reviewed" status. It is all about the money and when you begin to understand that 2nd part eugenics also plays a huge roll as well. Eugenics is alive and well in America!
zenman44 1 year ago
@battim "consensus of science" sound like Al Gore & just as dishonest too. Yes but it's not injected into a babies undeveloped immune system. Explain why there's no autism in the Amish people? THEY DON"T GET VACCINATED. You don't need to be a scientist to know there's direct correlation to the increasing number of vaccines and autism. Maybe you should look into Dr Blaylock the brain surgeon on this matter. I think he knows a little more than you. Debunk this. Genius: /watch?v=aUCCdCecLTo
zenman44 1 year ago
@battim Also consider that if he WAS lying they would have sued him off the air for slander YEARS AND YEARS ago....
xsithos 1 year ago
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Vengeance31 1 year ago
Do I believe in reptillians, you ask? Well, I'm reluctant to respond to your set up for another head spinningly fallacious argument. Let me guess, you'd like me to respond yes so you can use an array of fallacies such as circumstantial ad hominems(one of your favorites, I've found), an appeal to ridicule, poisoning the well, etc. I believe this is known as a red herring. Interesting.
How is this relevant? Jones isn't even a proponent of that, not that that has anything to do w/ me anyway.
subg88 1 year ago
its called sarcasm and ridicule. not a logical response, but one that is still fitting. you are defending alex jones. seriously. lol.
battim 1 year ago
yup whole family has it. and everyone is healthy. your point?
battim 1 year ago
This battim guy is completely full of shit. Either he is ignorant of Jones' work or he is deliberately misrepresenting it. He say Jones supported McVeigh's work in OKC when in fact Jones presented evidence that US agencies were involved in the bombing. Then he states Jones is trying to scare people by using the word pandemic re: H1N1. Jones' argument has always been that the H1N1 scare was false and warned all not to take the vaccine.
subg88 1 year ago
Further according to WHO, at the time this video was posted h1n1 had appeared in 79 countries so Jones was completely accurate in describing it as a pandemic. Battim also tries to discredit Jones by stating that Jones is wrong to describe a virus as a piece of DNA, "it's not, it's a piece of RNA" says Battim, but a virus is made up of a gene of either RNA or DNA. Jones was referring to the rotavirus vaccines, which in fact contained pig virus DNA, according to the FDA.
subg88 1 year ago
He says the govt. didn't make h1n1 because if they had that kind of control they would do it more often. Strange logic there. Then he states since h1n1 is contagious they wouldn't be able to contain it. Irrelevant. Jones is arguing that the vaccine is the danger, not the virus. As the WHO wrote in its Pandemic Report, H1N1 is much less dangerous than seasonal flu.
Misrepresentation after misrepresentation. Who is the disinformist here?
subg88 1 year ago
jones has said repeatedly the government invented the virus is a lab. he also claimed it was a stanic plot to coincide with cinco de mayo. the rate of death in vaccine use for h1n1 is about 2 in one million. the rate of death in contracting h1ni is about one in 600. so the odds are in favor of being vaccinated. so the disinformist would be jones.
battim 1 year ago
@battim Rate of death is not the concern with the vaccine, it's the effect on the immune system, making a person more susceptible to the seasonal flu or other illness. According to the WHO, h1n1 is much less dangerous than seasonal flu so why would it be in anyone's interest to take a vaccine that compromises the immune system for a a specific low level virus? Also, the notion that h1n1 was created in a lab did not originate with Jones. It originated from virologists such as Adrian Gibbs.
subg88 1 year ago
first of all, you can't keep citing organiozations you have already called illegitimate. lol. you have to make up your mind, are they legitimate or part ofthe conpspriacy, you cant have it both ways. that said, according to the WHO, "The global impact of the current pandemic has not yet been estimated." so stop lying.
battim 1 year ago
@battim Are you just pulling these numbers out of thin air? According to the CDC report from Jan 2010, there were approximately 39 million infections and 8,000 deaths. By my math, that works out to one in 4875.
subg88 1 year ago
my numbers come from the UN report. that said one in 4800 is still a MUCH higher percentage than 2 in one million.
battim 1 year ago
i said it was a pandemic. i never claimed it was not. i smply gave the proper definition of the term. it simply means an increase in exposure over geograpihcal areas. jones absolutely says the h1n1 virus is DNA. were are speaking of a specific virus, not all virus. the vaccine contains either rna or dna of a virun that is not live.
battim 1 year ago
evidence? what evidence? mcviegh admitted he was responsible, even wrote a book about it. he was absolving mcvieh by claiming he was a victim of mind control. jones never said it was false, he clearly stated on several occasions before he changed his story that the government invented the virus as a test.
battim 1 year ago
@battim In the vid, you claim Jones "supported Timothy McVeigh's action in OKC, bombings where he killed innocent people...it's cowardly" Here you say, correctly, that Jones claims he was a victim of mind control. Big difference.
Then you state "it's disinformation...and it's intentional disinformation so you go to his website and buy his books and the guys is making millions of buck...so, um you know, and, uh, if you watch his blog, on the.. you know it started out the name of it was...
subg88 1 year ago
..."pandemic swine flu", now he's changed the title...which shows the propaganda he uses." "The term is semantically are used to scare the living shit out of people." But Jones was correct in labeling a pandemic, so how can you use it as an example of his propaganda? You're the one assuming people don't know what the word means, not surprising considering your arrogance.
subg88 1 year ago
Jones doesn't hide behind his microphone, either - he has confronted in person politcal figures, law enforcement, FBI agents and angry crowds over and over again. He's been arrested numerous times. The man has balls, even his worse critics agree to that. And you can't be concerned about things if you're successful? You're just wrong on every count.
subg88 1 year ago
a lot of crazy people confront politicians. some even kill them. your point? he was arrested, was he convicted? having balls means youre not crazy? he is succesful promoting lies.
battim 1 year ago
@battim My point is that you say in the vid that Jones hides behind his microphone. Absolutely untrue. You yourself are promoting lies as a result of your untruthful statements.
subg88 1 year ago
going out three times and getting arrested is hardly my idea of being out there. lol. you beleive in reptilians too?
battim 1 year ago
apparenlty context is what you miss. he then contniues to say that its a government conspiracy, a satanic plot and an experiment to control population. the title hasn't changed. i talk about his sotry as a whole. its progandistic hogwash.
battim 1 year ago
he did support the actions, actually. mcvieh claims to have done it in response to the waco killings. jones has consistently supported that mindset. he also supported mcvieh and a dude who imp;risonedand brainwashed people claiming he was the messiah. no difference. are you caliming mcvieh was mind controlled? if not was it ok to kill folks to in response to waco?
battim 1 year ago
@battim So anyone, according to your rational, who is critical of the Waco event supports McVeigh? That's quite the leap. I never have any hinted at claiming that McVeigh was mind controlled. I agreed with your statement that Jones claims McVeigh was mind controlled. See, this is the kind of leap you make, that in addition to your ad hominem attacks, that shows your statements are hackneyed BS.
subg88 1 year ago
when they excuse mcviehs behaviorm, yes. jones excused his behavior (and i have no idea why jones would care, considering, he agreed with the rationale behind the bombing). when one makes a crazy defense (mind control indeed) to make a rationale for a murderer, thats called defending them. you are vmaking the leap with your made up numbers from the WHO, who jones says is in on the conspiracy.
battim 1 year ago
@battim You clearly are stating in the vid that Jones supports terrorism because he supported the OKC bombing. Again, claiming that McVeigh was mind controlled does not equate to condoning or encouraging terrorism.
Where exactly have I referred to the WHO as an illegitimate organization?? Look, you are the one citing figures without a source, I was giving the WHO numbers to point out the fact you are just making stuff up. What is the source for your figures?
subg88 1 year ago
what i said is he is supporting a terrorist. yes. when you give a homocidal maniac an excuse for said behavior citing that he was "mind cotrolled" with on evidence whatsoever...well. lol. that said your statistics. regardless you were making claims that were untrue. your paranoai is a wasted effort.
battim 1 year ago
@subg88 This video and this guy has got to be one of the dumbest ..SOB ive seen..
I am speechless at just how moist american's just have there heads in the sand !!
Gtfoots 1 year ago
@Gtfoots i am amazied at idiots like you who folow morons like alex jones. the only morons are ones who accept conspiracies with no scientific proof. i go by logic and reason, you go by crazy silly weridness.
battim 1 year ago
@battim "the only morons are ones who accept conspiracies with no scientific proof"
So I guess all the studies done on the major increase in autism has nothing to do with the increased number of vaccines that are required.
Have you heard about the new vaccines that keep you calm and tranquil. The Government says it is good for you but I'm not so sure. Why dont you google "Brain Eating Vaccines". I'm sure you will side with the establishment but I still think you should know.
TripleC86 1 year ago 2
@TripleC86 . All those studies that have been peer reviewed and found that there is no correlation between autism and vaccines. In fact, we have no idea what causes autism. That's called junk scienxe. Jim carrey and oprah are not scientists. Not one of those studies have been replicated and peer review has destroeyed their validity. There has no been a study that proves a link between mercury and autism.
battim 1 year ago
@TripleC86
Well the study on mercury poisoning from Thiomerisal in infants that I saw suggested that the development regression from the mercury was "similar" to the symptoms of autisim. So it doesn't cause autisim, the fact is it causes "similar symptoms".
Take that for what its worth; but isn't it just as bad? =\
Look, the bottom line is that the pharmaceutical companies won't spend their money making this stuff safe if people dont go after them. Thats just how things work...
xsithos 1 year ago
@xsithos you really are lost the more you write. first of all vaccines are not nor have they ever been money makers for pharm companies. ever. autistic children and children who have similiar symptoms to autism have never ever been shown to have higher mercury levels at any time in their lives. you are lying to people. mouth powder is not administered in controlled doses by a medical professional, your metaphor is faulty. that said thermisol hasnt been used in vaccines since 2004.
battim 1 year ago
@battim
I never said mercury causes autisim. Your strawman arguments are getting tireing. Its already known mercury in children causes a regression that has similar symptoms to autisim. It isn't autisim, like I said: just similar symptoms.
Your not even reading what I wrote.
Its not going to bankrupt the pharmacy to make cuts on the safe side of things to keep even small amounts of poisons like mercury out of their products. There are other preservatives out there besides Thiomerisal.
xsithos 1 year ago
@xsithos no its doesn't please state the study that indicates that. you are lying. its nto similiar symptoms for trace amounts found in former vaccines. thermisol is no longer used.
battim 1 year ago
@battim
"Early Downward Trends in Neurodevelopmental
Disorders Following Removal of Thimerosal-
Containing Vaccines"
Page 8
quote:" Exposure to mercury has previously been shown to cause immune, sensory, neurological, motor, and behavioral dysfunctions similar to traits defining or associated with autistic disorders."
Its poison, Look up MINAMATA DISEASE. If I put trace amounts in my blood every year it won't cause much harm? I won't notice the effects?
Its my brain... do not want.
xsithos 1 year ago
@xsithos exposure to higher concentrations of mercury. in context. its all about dosage. water is poison in large doses. so are vitamins and iron. but in low doses they are actually beneficial. again, you are taking things out of context, that study did not show that low doses of mercury in a vaccine shot cause these side effects, its simply stated that generally "exposure to mercury" can cause these thing. exposure to iron can do similiar things in higher doses. one study is all ya got?
battim 1 year ago
@xsithos you also ignore the fact that the sudy you are citing showed no causal likn between Thimerosal and neural damage. why do you pick this tiny paragraph out of context from a study that disproves your theories? very odd you'd quote a study that completely obliterates your arguments. lol. typical really of conspiracists.
battim 1 year ago
@battim I originally posted that to disprove what another poster on your page said about autisim being related to mercury. Though it IS proven that mercury does hurt the brain; and that putting it directly into the bloodstream is worse than eating it. The tests on animals showed that.
Stop with the pointless strawman arguments. I cant discuss with you if you are going to be senselessly skeptical. If your going to be skeptical, you have to be reasonable as well.
I'm sorry, but I'm done here
xsithos 1 year ago
@xsithos once again your science is poor. A 2008 study found that the half-life of blood mercury after vaccination with thiomersal-containing vaccines averages 3.7 days for newborns and infants, much shorter than the 44 days for methylmercury. continued...
battim 1 year ago
@battim Ethylmercury clears from the brain in about 14 days in infant monkeys. Inorganic mercury metabolized from ethylmercury has a much longer clearance, at least 120 days; it appears to be much less toxic than the inorganic mercury produced from mercury vapor, for reasons not yet understood
battim 1 year ago
@battim The only debatable part of this whole conversation:
We have to weigh the amount of damage Thiomerisal causes in trace amounts when put directly into the bloodstream, AGAINST making pharmaceutical companies come up with another preservative.
discuss with me
They foolishly chose to use the preservative with the poison mercury; which people would obviously oppose using. It was their decision; people just wont believe a trace amount does zero damage. Thats why they now use others.
xsithos 1 year ago
@xsithos they have done hundred of studies that you simply ignore that show the there is no relationship to Thiomerisal and nervous system complications. none. you also ignore the fact its not even used anymore. lol. you are whining and crying over something that is not even used in childrens vaccines anymore. i have no idea what your point is.
battim 1 year ago
@battim "vaccines are not nor have they ever been money makers for pharm companies. ever." WTF! you call him a liar?. Sir, YOU ARE THE LIAR! OR PAID SHILL OR BOTH! Nobody could be as smart as you "sound" without an agenda and so little proof. How is it that the government gave 8 billion to the drug companies for H1N1? No money?!! Yes vaccines are huge money makers. Why would AL Gore and Obama be so heavily invested in them then? Obama tried so hard to push them he lied saying his kids got them!
zenman44 1 year ago
@zenman44 its not a lie. the reocrds are clear. its subsidized to break even. you can make up your alex jone truths all you want, but the facts are facts. the government gave them 8 billion and how much did it cost to make them in a such a rapid amount of time? is it a surprise that the virus has been virtually wiped out in less than a yeat? brack obama is not allowed investments as president of the united states. you can take your lies elsewhere.
battim 1 year ago
@xsithos now its apparent to me you like to lie to people. the one study by andrew wakefield that claimed a link between Thimerosol and autism has NEVER been replicated. its been disproved hundred of times. literally. hundreds. you are practicing post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacies all over here. you ignore science and believe in junk science. there is more mercury in a naval orange than any vaccine on the market today. you have not given one fact that relative.
battim 1 year ago
@battim You are dead wrong.No mercury in vaccines? It's right there on the package insert dude. It's not just mercury/thimeresol that causes autism. It's the adjuvant oil that cause more harm when injected. This is what causes Gulf War Syndrome. You are wrong about Alex Jones. He knows and tells it on his show that Timothy McVey was working in military intelligence and like Oswald was sacrificial lamb. Lot's of evidence to show Oklahoma City was another inside job like 911. You must be a shill!
zenman44 1 year ago
@zenman44 no. it hasn't been used in childrens vaccine since 2001 and in 2004 for all vaccines. mcvey was a private. he never worked for DIA. lol. a private doesn't get the kind of clearance you are speaiking of. gotta love you conspriacists, you make shit up with no proof. alex says so and you beleive. sheep.
battim 1 year ago
911summarydotcom Not sure what research could lead you to believe the official story. Google 9 11 barely anyone really believes any of the official story including more than half of the 9 11 commissioners. Google "without Precedent" its a book...written by the 9 11 commissioners...READ IT. Then talk about research. You people like in la la land.
beatmaster1234567 1 year ago
and tin foil caps and mind control conspiracies arent lalaland? lol
battim 1 year ago
Alex has been on major news and they didnt air his interviews. Of course you dont believe me..because YOU haven't done your research. Maybe you should read without precedent. Written by 2 of the 9 11 commissioners who say specifically that the gov. lied and covered up not just failed with their intelligence programs. Did you know Alex also predicted 9 11 to a T? No you didnt. Maybe Alex Jones just knows what he is talking about.
beatmaster1234567 1 year ago
he didnt predict it to a tea. he simply stated there'd be a terrorist attack and we'd blame al quaeda. boy thats an easy prediction considering how many times its actually happened. lol. he never predicted planes. bin laden admitted to 9.11
battim 1 year ago
@battim Actually Bin Laden didnt admit that he attacked us on 9/11. His supporters actually said they would turn him in if we could provide proof that he did it.
BTW you apparently havent been keeping up with your Mainstream Media news or you would know that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is the "admitted mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks".
If your going to regurgitate propaganda, alteast stay up to date on it.
TripleC86 1 year ago 2
@TripleC86. You are clueless. Bin laden has cited al quaeda involvement in 911 several time. Its not msm, he has made videos for al jazeera stating it
battim 1 year ago
u are so dumb.
dcrider5150 2 years ago
you are a lost sheep, and have no idea what you are talking about. Get your facts straight., by the way your tattoos suck ass.
brassmonkey1010 2 years ago
@brassmonkey1010 ooooo, very intileligent. YOU ARE BRAINED WASHED
Kikkankleiven 2 years ago
lol.
battim 1 year ago
Amen battim!
Its really sad how infected his show is with crappy products nobody will buy. Colloidal Silver Lungs? Give me a break. Commercials for water purifiers, buying gold, buying seedsmost of which he claims to use. Yeah right. Theyre paid to advertise on his show and Alex probably charges a premium if the advertisers want him to say he uses them. He uses scare tactics on his own fans to buy his stuff and buy the paid advertisers products. He is laughing all the way to the bank.
Konstrict 2 years ago
konstrict, its nice to see logic once in a while on a video that bashes alex jones.
battim 1 year ago
@Konstrict Yeah dont buy gold and clean water. Never you mind that the dollar is about to tank along with every fiat currency in the history of mankind. While Gold has gone from 300 an ounce to about 1300 an once in a very short time even with all the market supression to keep your money in stocks and debt notes. Never you mind the Fluoride in your water that the Nazi germans first came up with. Just keep drinking your poisons and buying debts be a good american.
beatmaster1234567 1 year ago
lol. can you explain why the dollar is actually getting stornger as we speak? gold, like any commodity, bubbles. flouride and nazis. lol. tin foil caps. you paranoid whackos never cease to amaze me. got your bomb shleter and canned good ready too? lol.
battim 1 year ago
What are those tattoos you have on your arms? What are the pictures of, do you have any words on your arms. Just interested.
JMMCL16 2 years ago
No words except the chinese symbol for love
battim 2 years ago
This guy has no idea what is going on. What a waste of time to listen to his points. STAY BLIND DUDE!!!
skunkielizard 2 years ago
You are a hopeful day dreamer, things are going bad - you stick your head in the sand. If you lived in Nazi Germany you would have thought that Hitler was a good guy and of course he wouldn't murder millions of jews - what a silly thing to say! And if you lived in Russia - you would have never believed what Stalin could do. YOU need to wake up. Big time.
JMMCL16 2 years ago
invoking nazi germany is intellectual failure.
battim 2 years ago
why? Its true isn't it.? Millions DID NOT believe Hitler had evil plans, they thought he was GREAT. Winston Churchill was derided and laughed down when he spoke out against Hitler and warned people about his agenda. Alex Jones is doing an amazing job, trying to wake the sheep up. wakey wakey........
JMMCL16 2 years ago
no, its a false metaphor. noone in america is doing what hitler did. alex jones is spreading lies. much in the same way hitler did.
battim 2 years ago
How do you KNOW that no one in America is GOING to do what Hitler did? How are you so sure? Germany before Hitler took over was well-off, cultured and admired. So how do you know that Alex Jones isn't right?
JMMCL16 2 years ago
That is called the logical fallacy of jumping to conclusions...so are we to assume your daddy could fuck kids simply because others have done so?
battim 2 years ago
WHAT?!!!!!! What are you on about?!!!
Look around you. Stop believing everything the media tells you. The show IS controlled by the BANKERS because MONEY rules the world. Many of these things are happening NOW. There is no conspiracy about it. Again, I don't understand your weird, depraved logic....don't want to...but Alex is probably, spot on about many things.
JMMCL16 2 years ago 2
Well you and alex jones have the liberty to spew your lies. Not nazi like. Gays are getting rights instead of slaughtered. Gun ownership is up and the supreme court upheld that right. What is nazi like?
battim 2 years ago
The censorship is more sneaky then with the nazis. Hidden. But the laws are encroaching more and more on civil liberties. We DO have freedom, but that freedom is being curtailed more and more. I mentioned the nazis - because you are sceptical about all these 'conspiracy theories' and I compared those theories and your unbelief to the utter unbelief in Europe and the world during the 1940's that German (civilised) people could be capable of utter evil.
JMMCL16 2 years ago
@battim "invoking nazi germany is intellectual failure." Another logically fallacious argument. Straw man? Begging the question? False dilemma? Appeal to consequences of a belief? I can't decide.
subg88 1 year ago
false metaphor. Reductio ad Hitlerum. i can continue. again bringing up nazi's in this conversation is moot.
battim 1 year ago
your a evil retard whoi needs to be taken out of life.
Your a slave of the new world order . The devil is taken souls like yourself and made them into devil slaves !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope you get killed by the devil police and your soul burns in hell !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Most people download alex jones's movies for free.
I hope you die !!!!!!!!!
ErieParties 2 years ago
@ErieParties and this is what follows alex jones. lol. thanks for making my point about idiot paranoid violent folks following jones.
battim 2 years ago
yea, but his information isn't bad to know doesn't mean it's perfect. Fox ain't gonna give it to you. So you think he's "shill" & he upset you.
satirycon7 2 years ago
its true he may just be selling fear, but this whole war is based on fear . the govt said we have to go to war or we will be killed by them . which i dont believe either. so i listen to both sides and try to be unbiased and make my own decision
rowin09 2 years ago
all war is based on fear propaganda. two wrongs dont make a right.
battim 2 years ago
OPENNICK
opennick 2 years ago
I from time to time listen to what the man has to say, and with more than a grain of salt. One thing he preaches is that the "sheeple" blindly follow leaders and how it's so asinine, however even after hammering that into peoples head they defend the man at every single facet. They're no better than this herd of sheeple that they think they're so sepperated from, but are more just a matrix of them. He cuts off anyone with a logical retort and his following is very cultish.
eefums 2 years ago
so then he has sheeple following his nonsense. see no hypocrisy?
battim 2 years ago
how has loose change made millions? didn't they put the video out online for free.
WillahG 2 years ago
You"re the sociopath loser. What do you do besides personally attacking people who speak up? Go back to watching porn and football games.
szanyivica 2 years ago
i am a football fan, but porn not so much. that said, again you dont want to talk about the issues, you want to personally attack. typical alex jones stuff. you need help with your paranoia. they have good meds for it.
battim 2 years ago
and here, you are advocating free speach, while saying that he shouldn't say anything. Free speech does not mean that someone who speaks up is safe from disagreement and attack. You also use a personal attack directly AFTER attacking him for using a personal attack. You are a hypocrite, i have found several examples of that in your simple two sentences. I have no real opinion either way on this whole "conspiracy" thing.
GearsofFate101 2 years ago
well logic and science tells us alex jones is lying. he is a liar, simply put.
battim 2 years ago
You either don"t get it, or you are a gov agent- do you think people are stupid, and they won't click on links provided and research the info?
Alex Jones exposes info that is documented, a lot of times mainstream articles that people overlook or don't fully understand. For people who are STILL in denial: you deserve your destiny!
szanyivica 2 years ago
typical alex jones rhetoric....if you dont agree with us, you are a government agent. lol. the paranoia.
battim 2 years ago
No, but where are you getting this information from?. All the conspiracy theories that I've heard I have researched for myself, I have yet to find a reason that would lead me to the conclusion that you have found yourself. To be quite honest if I hadn't actually done research to look into Alex Jones theories i would think he is a complete lunatic but the information is right in front of me I'd be stupid to not acknowledge it, Maybe you should try doing the same.
shawnmd 2 years ago 10
@shawnmd shawn you really are lost. googling things is not research. listening to charlie sheen or watching a youtube video is not research. give me academic references that agree with alex jones that are scientific in any way. please.
battim 1 year ago
i agree when some1 calls and tries to argue he just cuts him/her off and starts his bullshit talk
ExtraTerrestrials 2 years ago
Why don't you remove the useless stats in your info bar and give us some proof behind your statements. We aren't sponges ready to soak up your every word. I advise everyone to find proof in what people are telling you. Alex Jones does not ask you to believe anything he says but instead to do the research for yourself.
shawnmd 2 years ago 2
lol. proof that virus are rna? or proof that alex jones has no proof? you conpriracists and your circular logic.
battim 2 years ago
It is happening, Nano Thermite you fuckin noodle.
MrFunkysquirrel 2 years ago
you freaks and your nano thermite...that is not used in controlled demos...
battim 2 years ago
This is complete disinformation, the guy is probably on gov't payroll
abankertakeover 2 years ago
of course, i am part of the conspiracy...lol. everyone who disagrees with alex must be in on it...lol.
battim 2 years ago
Alex Jones was the first one to say that the whole swine flu thing was nothing but fear-mongering. You have completely misunderstood what he was saying.
MrsSarb 2 years ago
so his response was to fear monger himself by saying it will give the government an excuse to use fema camps? he also said it was generated in a lab and used on the poplace, thats not fear mongering?
battim 2 years ago
I've never heard that Alex Jones supported McVeigh's actions. In fact I heard him say that McVeigh was a CIA black ops puppet. That Alex Jones at one time supported McVeigh is a pretty damning allegation... Can you point us to proof? - thanks!
gbfromsea 2 years ago
its all over the net. jone's defended him by stating he was a product of mind control and that he was a government operative. its all over the net.
battim 2 years ago
Excellent video.
burnemupcrx 2 years ago
I think it would be in humanity's best interest to take guidence from the fictional world not just dismiss it as nonsense that has no relevence to reality. The truth is the fictional world is the main reason humans have the capacity to create and communicate. Otherwise we are just animals who only exist to destroy.
Syranus66 2 years ago
here is a scenario for you all what if the world was all facts and figures? Would people want to live in it? Do facts give people the courage and will to live on even though they have felt so much pain?
With your sceince you will only drive humanity towards more ignorance and destruction. Humans are more than just flesh and blood. The real world is but only a mere catalyst that supports all life. Without these fictional things humans would just be animals destroying each other.
Syranus66 2 years ago
ignorant idiot
Malmoesoldier 2 years ago
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derekWC3 2 years ago
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derekWC3 2 years ago
Fuck Tim it's not looking too good for that little anti religion, religion you've got going in that head of yours.
tbgx1 2 years ago
What's not looking good? When did I ever say I was antireligion. I sinply stated a fact religion is nothing more than unprovable superstition.
battim 2 years ago
Sir I don't believe you. Alex Jones is telling the truth.
eyofirsttrumpet 2 years ago
You are wrong about there being only 1-2 vacines for viruses, I believe. People have been using vacines for viruses for several hundred years now. There are vacines for dozens of strains of flu viruses alone, I believe. But other than that a very good presentation in my humble opinion.
Joe2Klempner 2 years ago
Nice to see a well-reasoned opinion on Youtube for a change. Thanks for the clip. Alex Jones needs to be exposed.
Joe2Klempner 2 years ago 2
Alex Jones is full of crap. He takes things out of context, misrepresents his videos, acts paranoid or makes it look as though he is. He employs guilt by association, he is involved in character assassination, he is, an unrepentant sociopath who is making money out of exploiting the fears out of collective unconscious. He is as much as a person who pretends to have a PhD and not know what a dissertation is. If you disagree with him, you are part of an imaginary conspiracy.
Nguli34689 2 years ago
For some strange reason, this video came up during a search about Alex Jones. I wasn't searching for Oklahoma bombing or Timothy Mcwhatever he's called. Title your vids properly...
kimdaviscali 2 years ago
i did.
battim 2 years ago
our government's doing the things they do u moron, you realy need to wake up!!! or stop trying to defend them, 1 of the 2
colledge41 2 years ago
when its track record was 100% untill the morning of 911, that just a failure is it? and thats just for starters! all the things alex talks about you can check out for yourself, do your own research on google or even check out past main streem news clips that are funnely enough not shown that often, remember they dont drill into our heads what they dont want us to know, unlike with terrorism or the swine flu! stop trying to make excuse's for
colledge41 2 years ago
your an idiot, you think alex jones like to report this stuff? course he doesn't. yes he does have an agender, to warn the rest of us about what our government's are doing. if he was that bothered about making money he wouldn't be telling people as often as he does to go watch his films on google/ you tube for FREE!!! or tell people to copy it and give it away, again for free! and as for no proof on 911, are you actually serious? norad failling as many times in 1 day as it did
colledge41 2 years ago
i dont like ron paul
battim 2 years ago
blonde
azrienkoch 2 years ago
epic fail...uh love the uh um valley boy logic dude so uh accurate...um, y'know...
daddysevenpointfiver 2 years ago
I'm not scared I'm just watching the watchers!
Trust No One.
otroe1 2 years ago
An organism has RNA but not DNA? FAIL. Keep your day job. And, oh, by the way, the WHO has declared H1N1 an official pandemic, so there.
Alienyouth111 2 years ago
a virus is not an organism. keep your day job. lol.
battim 2 years ago
ok so h1n1 is a pandemic, and are you really that naive to beleive governments can't create or control diseases?
youngloenoe 2 years ago
the common cold is pandemic. and no i do not believe the government made swine flu. that is the subject here, triangulate elsewhere. the government can set off a nuke, think their gonna do it in an american city too? the possiblity does not logically jump to....that it is happening.
battim 2 years ago