@widebody123: Hahahaha! You fool! You made your comment before Climategate and now it is YOU that is shown to be unrelated to the truth and Monckton is exactly right. Besides, these are not Monckton's graphs and charts - he is only quoting from the scientific record which the IPCC and you would rather we dodn't know about. So fuck you, warmist troll.
And what of Al Gore? He and those like him are the one's making the assertion. The burden of proof belongs to him and his, not Monchton. Are we all suppose to just roll over and accept what Gore demands, or should there be an honest argument about the data, analysis, and conclusions as is required for all other matters of science?
6.42 Im fascinated by the dramatic cooling at the end of the roman warm period.
During this time people migrated into western and southern Europe(the roman empire) in the HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS.
It is often attributed to a weak Roman Empire, Aggressive Huns, and war like barbarians, but is it possible that these people were desperate? On 31-12-406 the Rhine froze, 80,000 Vandals crossed the Rhine and invaded France.
This is not exactly a true representation of what that report says. The report admits that the medieval warm period was quite probably AS WARM as today, meaning that today's temperatures are not anomalous. And since the report only looks back ~400 years, the report does NOT address the Holocene, and so does not dispute the widespread agreement among paleo-climatologists that the Holocene WAS indeed MUCH warmer than today. Tropical vegetation frozen in arctic regions is difficult to dispute.
They've found whole FORESTS that had been preserved under glaciers for thousands of years - how'd they get there? They've found entrances to silver mines in the Alps that haven't been used for hundreds of years because their entrances had been hidden by snow cover year round until recently. BOTH are examples of PAST warming episodes that occured WAY before fossil fuel CO2. You cannot DENY these facts and they aren't 'scientific' - they are just sound LOGIC! (a quality alarmists LACK.)
And let's not forget the fact that we started recording temperature as we were coming out of the Little Ice Age. A fact the general public is ignorant of and the alarmists want to keep it that way. They also don't want to acknowledge the fact that the Vikings were farming land which is now frozen. He ignores thw fact that it's been warm enough in the UK for them to have vinyards and so cold that the Themes river would freeze over. Neither is the case in the UK today.
And let's not forget that the Polar Bears were around during the times when UK was warm enough to have vinyards. They survived just fine last I checked and yet they want us to believe these bears will perish in this time period where we aren't nearly as warm as then. It'sboth laughable and sad at the same time.
If you look at the original interview, he was basically asked if he wanted to talk more about Science, or Policy. And he said he wanted to over-represent the Science, rather than talk about policy.
As for the "science" not being correct, would you care to mention even one scientific institution which has taken issue with the evidence?
ZeDollyDots - Then by your 'logic', because Al Gore is no scientist, we can dimiss everything HE has ever said in favor of this scam? (that has gained him $100's millions from book profits, carbon credit trading, speaking fees, etc. to buy Jet A to put in his jet and pay his electric bill which is 20X a normal person's...)
Al Gore actually admitted to lying in his "documentary." He also said he was infavor of overstating things (lying) to get people to do what he wants. Al Gore is a Human Caused Global Warming propagandist.
Try going to places like icecap(dot)us or co2science(dot)com & you'll find that everything Monkton is say is TRUE & no one has 'debunked' any of it. Government HACKS are desperately trying to justify changing historic data in order to hang on to their FAILED alarmist agenda for continued EMPLOYMENT & they've been CAUGHT RED HANDED! Look at GISS data from two nearby towns in CA - Orland & Marysville - EXPLAIN WHY ORLAND SHOULD BE ADJUSTED TO COMPENSATE FOR THE ERROR AT MARYSVILLE?
He will not bother. The majority of the science does not favor his view. Any thinking person woudl want to look at ALL the data and he is content in looking at doctored and cherry picked data which supports his view. The Human Caused Global Warming movement is a religious one not supported by science or logic.
try googling "hot topic blog"and "monckton and the case of the missing curry" and have a great laugh
try googling "deltoid blog" and on that blog search for monckton.
Everyrhing Monckton says is beingdebunked there.
If youw ant to learn serious climate science, do read those blogs too : RealClimate, Open Mind, RabettRun, initforthegold, etc.
Will be more interesting than losing your time in the poor science done by Monckton, a man who mainly proofs that indeed he has no degree in science...
You said a whole lot of nothing regrading the SCIENCE presented. You did the classic thing of slamming the presenter. Monckton is simply PRESENTING the work of others which contradicts your favorite view. You know, the work people and politicians who believe as you do pretend doesn't exist? Here's an idea. How about you try to attack the science? Try to remember the data being presented comes from experts in their fields. He isn't making things up like like Gore and the IPCC did.
Fact: The climate has always changed and always will.
Fact: Temperature change PRECEDES CO2 level change by average 800 years.
Fact: 1000 years ago temp was much higher than today without man's influence.
Fact: The IPCC uses graphs starting only 200 years ago from the end of the little ice age to assert AGW.
Fact: REAL science is being stifled by the IPCC and Govt.
Fact: Cooling is worse as grain doesn't grow in ice.
Fact: We've been cooling for the last 9 years!
MrOllyK 2 years ago 2
@widebody123: Hahahaha! You fool! You made your comment before Climategate and now it is YOU that is shown to be unrelated to the truth and Monckton is exactly right. Besides, these are not Monckton's graphs and charts - he is only quoting from the scientific record which the IPCC and you would rather we dodn't know about. So fuck you, warmist troll.
numbskullandy 2 years ago 3
"Warmist troll" is perfect. You should copyright it before it goes viral.
stooben1 2 years ago 3
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Monckton seems to be a self-publicist with an agenda. Whatever that is, it seems to be un-related to the facts and truth.
widebody123 2 years ago
So what is it?
elljayusmaximus 2 years ago
And what of Al Gore? He and those like him are the one's making the assertion. The burden of proof belongs to him and his, not Monchton. Are we all suppose to just roll over and accept what Gore demands, or should there be an honest argument about the data, analysis, and conclusions as is required for all other matters of science?
sniffsnarff 2 years ago 4
How does the crow taste?
searcher619 2 years ago
6.42 Im fascinated by the dramatic cooling at the end of the roman warm period.
During this time people migrated into western and southern Europe(the roman empire) in the HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS.
It is often attributed to a weak Roman Empire, Aggressive Huns, and war like barbarians, but is it possible that these people were desperate? On 31-12-406 the Rhine froze, 80,000 Vandals crossed the Rhine and invaded France.
catonz 2 years ago
4:30
Uhm, not sure we're he's getting his National Academy of Sciences report from.
But the one I got here says:
"None of the reconstructions indicates that temperatures were warmer during medieval times than during the past few decades"
greyfalcon. net/ 2000year
greyflcn 2 years ago
This is not exactly a true representation of what that report says. The report admits that the medieval warm period was quite probably AS WARM as today, meaning that today's temperatures are not anomalous. And since the report only looks back ~400 years, the report does NOT address the Holocene, and so does not dispute the widespread agreement among paleo-climatologists that the Holocene WAS indeed MUCH warmer than today. Tropical vegetation frozen in arctic regions is difficult to dispute.
jimbo1490 2 years ago
They've found whole FORESTS that had been preserved under glaciers for thousands of years - how'd they get there? They've found entrances to silver mines in the Alps that haven't been used for hundreds of years because their entrances had been hidden by snow cover year round until recently. BOTH are examples of PAST warming episodes that occured WAY before fossil fuel CO2. You cannot DENY these facts and they aren't 'scientific' - they are just sound LOGIC! (a quality alarmists LACK.)
Mikeishere1st 2 years ago
And let's not forget the fact that we started recording temperature as we were coming out of the Little Ice Age. A fact the general public is ignorant of and the alarmists want to keep it that way. They also don't want to acknowledge the fact that the Vikings were farming land which is now frozen. He ignores thw fact that it's been warm enough in the UK for them to have vinyards and so cold that the Themes river would freeze over. Neither is the case in the UK today.
searcher619 2 years ago
And let's not forget that the Polar Bears were around during the times when UK was warm enough to have vinyards. They survived just fine last I checked and yet they want us to believe these bears will perish in this time period where we aren't nearly as warm as then. It'sboth laughable and sad at the same time.
searcher619 2 years ago
re: searcher619
Would you define 1975, as "Now"?
greyfalcon. net/ mwp.png
greyfalcon. net/ mwp
==Al Gore actually admitted to lying==
If you look at the original interview, he was basically asked if he wanted to talk more about Science, or Policy. And he said he wanted to over-represent the Science, rather than talk about policy.
As for the "science" not being correct, would you care to mention even one scientific institution which has taken issue with the evidence?
greyfalcon. net/ nameone
greyflcn 2 years ago
If you google "When Antarctica was green"
you'll find a link to the Geological Society video by that name. Lots of interesting info on the thriving plant life it used to have
4TIMESAYEAR 2 years ago
ZeDollyDots - Then by your 'logic', because Al Gore is no scientist, we can dimiss everything HE has ever said in favor of this scam? (that has gained him $100's millions from book profits, carbon credit trading, speaking fees, etc. to buy Jet A to put in his jet and pay his electric bill which is 20X a normal person's...)
Mikeishere1st 2 years ago
Al Gore actually admitted to lying in his "documentary." He also said he was infavor of overstating things (lying) to get people to do what he wants. Al Gore is a Human Caused Global Warming propagandist.
searcher619 2 years ago
Al Gore indeed isn't important for indeed he's not a climate scientist but a politician.
but it's not Al Gore saying mankind is altering the climate, it's scientists...
ZeDollyDots 2 years ago
Try going to places like icecap(dot)us or co2science(dot)com & you'll find that everything Monkton is say is TRUE & no one has 'debunked' any of it. Government HACKS are desperately trying to justify changing historic data in order to hang on to their FAILED alarmist agenda for continued EMPLOYMENT & they've been CAUGHT RED HANDED! Look at GISS data from two nearby towns in CA - Orland & Marysville - EXPLAIN WHY ORLAND SHOULD BE ADJUSTED TO COMPENSATE FOR THE ERROR AT MARYSVILLE?
Mikeishere1st 2 years ago
He will not bother. The majority of the science does not favor his view. Any thinking person woudl want to look at ALL the data and he is content in looking at doctored and cherry picked data which supports his view. The Human Caused Global Warming movement is a religious one not supported by science or logic.
searcher619 2 years ago
you didn't do what i said, did you ?
everything monckton says has been debunked.
Monckton only fools the fools.
ZeDollyDots 2 years ago
try googling "hot topic blog"and "monckton and the case of the missing curry" and have a great laugh
try googling "deltoid blog" and on that blog search for monckton.
Everyrhing Monckton says is beingdebunked there.
If youw ant to learn serious climate science, do read those blogs too : RealClimate, Open Mind, RabettRun, initforthegold, etc.
Will be more interesting than losing your time in the poor science done by Monckton, a man who mainly proofs that indeed he has no degree in science...
ZeDollyDots 2 years ago
Monckton is always good for a laugh.
too bad he himself beliefs what he tells is serious business.
ZeDollyDots 2 years ago
You said a whole lot of nothing regrading the SCIENCE presented. You did the classic thing of slamming the presenter. Monckton is simply PRESENTING the work of others which contradicts your favorite view. You know, the work people and politicians who believe as you do pretend doesn't exist? Here's an idea. How about you try to attack the science? Try to remember the data being presented comes from experts in their fields. He isn't making things up like like Gore and the IPCC did.
searcher619 2 years ago