Fuse Box Danger

[TheWaynelds]

what caused the sparks at the end of the video?

[handymanrichie]

You really need a panel swap. The equipment grounds and neutral wires can be landed under the same bar on the first means of disconect as long as the green bonding screw is in place to bond the housing.

[GriggsC123]

Was that Aluminum wiring in your Box? I hope there was some Noalox on them, if not then the aluminum is going to oxide and really cause an issue.

[kc8grp]

That panel must have been wired by Mr. McPartlin!

[itsdonenow]

The panel and this guy both have an issue with a loose screw.

[letseeitplease]

hey was that video done by galliger?? thought he was still chopping up watermelons with an axx over on showtime,,

[Blobsterss]

"Dares dat dere fuse box o mine ! Lets just stick our finger in there and touch dare wires ! "

[bobbj77]

not inspected by a professional either, un insulated screwdriver, touching the MCB/ MCCB,s with bare hands. leave it to the pros

[pjselec]

Please do not ever go into a electrical circuit/fuse box. I know he mentioned a profesional should be doing that work. I have to agree, Only licensed electricians should be doing any electrical work. Please leave this work to the profesinals. Master electrician for the last 20 years. You are never to big to get hurt from electricity. It's not a hobby!!!!

[petey815]

@pjselec electronics are my hobby!

[crazybeavers155]

i would not touch an uncovered panel with a ten foot pole lol its true

[acronus]

That panel was obviously not wired up by a professional. If it was, that "professional" should have his ticket pulled.

It's a bit hard to tell, but are there white and bare copper wires running into the same buss bar? If so, that's a big no-no.

[BetaFlux]

yeah I think your right, its not grounded properly, I'm going to have a electrician friend of mine look at it and put in a bigger box.

[iamdisccomp]

@acronus Actually, in the US anyway, you can have neutral(white) and ground(bare) wires together on the ground bar as long as that is the MAIN panel, meaning it is the first stop after the electric meter. Subpanels, like what you might find in a garage or shed, require the ground wires to be connected to a bus bar that is bonded to the box and neutral wires connected to an insulated bus bar.

[pantera1125]

@acronus It's a bit hard to tell, but are there white and bare copper wires running into the same buss bar? If so, that's a big no-no.

Not really, if that is the first point of disconnect in the dwelling the whites and the ground may be on the same buss bar. If that is a sub panel then that is not right.

[CalicoatMaker]

Hmm, the location alone is a violation of NEC code. Despite peoples beliefs, there is no "color code" in the NEC besides some exceptions of how you CANT color things...and clear marking of grounds and neutrals (get an NEC and check it out).

This box is a mess and a fire hazard waiting to happen. Not only that, but all those neutrals mixed with ground...add in old ballasts and CFL lights, you have dirty, dirty power. I bet you have an amp running straight to ground. Get a clip-on ammeter & see

[BetaFlux]

I know what you mean, the previous owner put it in himself I think. The wires were not even anchored to the house only the siding so they got yanked out with a high wind storm. It is a mess.

[theogt821]

@BetaFlux Legally speaking, you need to be a licensed electrician to install a breaker box because they need to unplug the meter (for obvious reasons) before putting it in. If this person wasn't (and I'm assuming he wasn't) he's lucky he didn't get electrocuted while putting it in. I definitely would get a professional in there as soon as possible to look at that. Plus, that box is grounded, so that's probably why it sparked when you put your screwdriver in there. Hope you weren't hurt.

[xlordshavox]

Is that Galligher??

[hellsmaw84]

it does look like him! but Gallagher is still around doing his water melon smashing :D. he flew above my hometown to show that he was going to his favorite night club in Mercer County, Ohio. Lord knows how many times i seen his water melon limo pass by.

[codyE088]

yeah i agree with v1fly1 but when doing this a recorder must be set up and recording. so we can all have a laugh at the crazy people who attempt working on there homes armed with the knowledge from a 2 min video from youtube. don't know why i bothered going college for 5 years it's all here.................... Crazy!!!

[ballsniff13]

y is there a neutral wire on the 30 amp breaker

[v1fly1]

always ground yourself!!! Put 1 foot in the toilet, then touch your tongue to each screw(to test for hot). By doing this u will always be safe....

[lawnside82]

that dude looks like gallagher!!

[peakyone]

One thing I noticed right away are double wires to the same breaker, that is a no no. Only one connection per breaker with one exception, the doorbell transformer.

[OneStoneAudioPhysics]

why only one wire?

[peakyone]

Each circuit has it's own breaker, it is a requirement of the code. The only exception is the door bell transformer, it maybe piggbacked on another circuit.

It is always the hot wire that goes through the breaker.

Please be careful, you are playing with a lot of power that can kill you if you fuck up.

[OneStoneAudioPhysics]

Here in Germany we have three phase systems...to be accurate there are 3x230V at 50A each coming into your home.

I do not understand why it is illegal to connect two cables to one circuit breaker.

It will break current at its rated current no matter how many cables are attached to it so I do not understand the problem...

[peakyone]

sorry I don't know what the code is for Germany.

Here most homes have a 200 amp service 3 phase.

The government sets the requirements at although I agree with you the rules say only one curcuit per breaker.

P>S> don't do what v1cly1 is suggesting.

[hellsmaw84]

with the US home standard being single phase 240V @ 100A its a must to only have one wire attached to each breaker, as well as fuse. fuses blow faster than breakers do but regaurdless only 1 hot per breaker/fuse or you can set your house on fire if not cause wide spread short circuits to other systems. and the electric doorbell can be piggybacked but its good for it to have it on a line always on.

[trucksoner]

isn't it 2-phase technically? cause it's 2 buss bars each at 120

[hellsmaw84]

i guess you could look at it like that because the fact that you have 3 wires coming in from the transformer and 1 of which is grounded. very very good observation and point.

[trucksoner]

thanks, i thought that there were 180 degrees out-of-phase with each other and so are 2-phase, but do you know for sure what it's called?

[hellsmaw84]

everyone considers it 1 phase due to the fact that if you connect something in the 240 lines, it indeed is 1 phase. but with that ground being in there, it could indeed make it a 1phase/2phase transformer. depending on what it is used for ofcourse. being mainly homes, it would be a single phase, but with that 240 being there, it as well is a single phase. but since the transformers leads split for most devices, it could be considered 2 phase. H-N-H coming in and H-N for outlets and H-N-H for 240

[chrisw3fsd]

yes you are correct it is two buss bares at 120

that is how we get 240 for you electric stove or dryer but if you noticed in the video he had some neutral wires with the ground wires that is a no no neutral and ground wires should be kept apart.

[trucksoner]

why is that anyways? aren't they kind of the same because the neutral bus is bonded to the grounded main panel.

why is it that that's done anyways? also why is it dangerous to do the same at a sub-panel? i'm a little confused

[ab0ad]

ground is tied to the neutral at the tranformer and the service entrance panel but if they are bonded at a sub panel then the ground WILL carry part of the current back the the main not good the ground for the most part is for protection and noise shielding not current carring. Notice most neutrals are smaller then hot's becuse of the hots being out of phase and ground are even smaller then the neutral

[trucksoner]

yeah i've always thought it was kinda funny how that is. i'm pretty sure my home's neutral is the same gauge as the hots but it's then half the size in total of wire (cause of the 2 hots). i also find it funny how there are 3-wire circuits and it's ok to share a neutral between 2 hots that are the same size as it

[SilentServiceCode]

it's split single phase; the two hot leads are 180 degrees out of phase with each other... you are able to get 240V if you utilize both together or 120V if you utilize a neutral tap

[trucksoner]

yeah i know that now but thanks

[byronmufc2]

hi there i blew a fuse after i put a new light up whats should i do?

[BIackwatch]

lol the end was.... scary

[rhblakeman]

IF you are going to mess with the "service panel" (whether fuses or breakers) you need to have at least a basic understanding. First stay the heck away from the fatter wires - they are the feeds from outside and always live unless the meter or pole service has been pulled. They connect to the large breaker(s) marked SERVICE DISCONNECT. If you get a good flashlight or work in daylight you can turn off the disconnect and work the lower brkrs w/o power to them. For the avg person I would suggest...

[rhblakeman]

(contd) having a licensed electrician do a safety inspection and service. Of course with your box (as mentioned) they would have a problem with more than one circuit on a breaker. You actually need a panel with more capacity, or if the panel allows, thin stye breakers to allow for more breakers. Cute fake shock but many times people dont get thrown but muscles tighten and they stay on the lead. WEAR GOOD SOLED SHOES WHEN YOU WORK ELECTRICAL, no bare feet!

[foximissi]

i notice u have more than one wire going to a 1 pole breaker.. never do this.. one breaker per circuit. = one wire per 1 pole breaker. ur gonna burn ur house down..

[Buhhbuh]

OMG!!!I was so shocked seeing u get the spark thing Hey but still thanks for making this Vids you juz risked ur life for us..May God bless u....On making dangerous vids....

Lurve,

Buh

[98770]

I used to have a fuse box (100 amp service) it uses an "SC" type fuse and it startes sparking. too many circuts are connected to one fuse

[BetaFlux]

I need a bigger breaker box, I tend to blow circuits more than I should.

[98770]

too many circuits are in one fuse thats why its alwalys betters to swich to circuit breakers or afci (arc fauld circut interrupters) these breakers are densinged to prevent a fire and shock hazards

[greenhornet123]

Lol thanks Dave I like the jolt you got.:)

[BetaFlux]

Thanks, I wanted to do better with the jolt but could not create to many sparks like that. He He.

[Robopecan]

Wow, thanks for making this! I'm honored to have my name mentioned in another person's video. I was shocked when your box shot a spark. My fuse box looks a little different, but it turns out our fuse box was too small for our house. You made a funny point with the "Roll 'em!" cliché.

[BetaFlux]

Thanks Colin, It was fun making this one, Glad you got your house taken care of. Your vids are cool. Take Care

[dude7799]

You may have saved a life or 2! Way 2 be man!

[BetaFlux]

Thanks Due, :)

[BetaFlux]

I mean Thanks Dude, :) :} Dohh!