I loved that she talked about the importance of sex-ed and contriception in this video. As a pro-choice supporter, I think the education is essential. If we had fewer unplanned pregnancies, we'd have fewer abortions, and that is what most pro-choice supporters want to see. We want to see fewer women feeling like they have to make this decision in the first place.
Before bigoted Pro-Lifers judge women who have committed to aborting their babies, we must understand that, as Pro-Lifers, it is not the women who are our enemies, nor are the doctors our enemies, not the members who choose to support abortion, but instead we face an enemy in ideas: eg. ideas claiming no moral equivalence between humans of earlier stages of life and humans of later stages.
I am pro-choice, but I want to reduce the number of abortions, so I want to reduce the number of unplanned pregnancies, so I want to make birth control more widely available and affordable, so I support Planned Parenthood's efforts to do exactly that.
I occasionally donate a (very) little money, but more often I buy condoms, take them to their health centers and donate them.
What do pro-life people do to reduce the number of unplanned pregnancies?
Ummm.... she sounds so evil. Baby killing is the RIGHT CHOICE to her. Disgusting. Saying big words makes murdering babies good, also saying they should give up their child for adoption WOW she loves when the innocent suffer. Being thrown away from their mothers and fathers What animal throws away its own children? ONLY the human animal. Kills its OWN CHILD for its own selfish sake. Not thinking of the yet to be brought into the world, only the currently living. I wouldd give up my life fr a chid
@SunnyLovetts Yeah, Big words does make it OK. I'm only pro-choice because of how hot that woman was. And being a pro-life person trying to persuade pro-choice people is like a Christian persuading an Atheist. It's what we believe. You don't have to like it. I respect your opinion, just like I expect you to respect mine.
Pro Choice means standing for murder and giving excuses for murder. I heard a quote that said "All those who support abortion were all born" they wouldn't be here today supporting Pro Choice if they were aborted. ... When you abort a baby you abort your own child.. Not only that but what about the GUILT the mothers must experience... Knowing they killed their own child? And every time they see babies they say "I could of had a relationship w/ my baby :("
Did you have an abortion and DON'T FEEL GUILTY? Me too. You're not alone. Most women feel this way. Message me your story. Let's make our voices heard.
"What Does it Mean to be 'Pro-Choice.'" Pick me, pick me... I know what it means Mz Dyke... Pro-Choice means that the mother doesn't want to bother with her child in her womb, like it makes her fat, so she uses this nation's Satanic Supreme Court tyranny to pay, um... get obama care to make TaxPayers to pay for a learned and gifted physician who took and oath to respect life to cut the little baby into pieces with his abortion knife and use a Hoover vacuum to suck up all the bloody body parts.
CarmillaCalamity... O my dear sister in Christ, you don't know the commandments so well, it really reads, "be respectful at all times, Prochoice be damned." If anyone needs to do penance, and lots of it, it is you Prochoice baby killing Evildoers. I suggest that you get started, now or don't bother and I'll see you burn in HELL, Prochoice Bitch.
@threetailedfox1... If you are sincere about boarding the Saint Peter Express to heaven then recite and pray this Hail Mary twice each day, until your judgment day. The Church authenticates that our Blessed Virgin Mother Mary promised a Saint that if you pray this prayer, the Hail Mary, twice each day, then she shall bestow upon you the necessary graces for heaven.
@threetailedfox1... I'm sorry that you were denied a happy loving childhood. This has to be a burden upon your life. Maybe you are called by God to be a Pro-Life defender of babies not their Prochoice killer. Ask for healing from our Blessed Virgin Mother Mary and pray...
@CamillaCalamity REPENT and you condemn your advocacy of this once noble nation's Abortion Holocaust little gerl for Jesus Christ is condemning your unrepentant baby killing heart of stone into the everlasting flames of HELL, you Prochoice Harlot. I do you a great show of charity to take my time to message a dog puke, baby killing bastard Prochoice genocidal maniac Evildoer like you, to warn you. Thank me in heaven but I seriously doubt that I'll see you there. All you Prochoice are damned fools
@RalphMariedeLargo You need to repent of your Youtube sins, you have broken the "be respectful at all times" commandment. Quite alot I see. You are going to have to do penitence.
I am amazed that his Evildoer dyke can be so good at Prochoice propaganda and lead so many retarded unrepentant Americans into the everlasting flames of HELL.
@RalphMariedeLargo Congradulations You have just been admitted into the Westboro Baptist Church and other clubs that want to take away women's rights and degrade them to the point of being slaves~!
I'd rather not have some dick of a person control my life.
@threetailedfox1 Congradulations {sic} You have just been admitted into the Prochoice baby killing bastards church of Satan. The fires of everlasting HELL is yours for your unrepentant sin against God our Creator. Abolish Abortion-Genocide... Where are all the Patriots who took an oath to defend our Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic enemy Prochoice? 52 Million fellow Citizens sacrificed at the wicked alter of Planned Parenthood. This Republic end our Abortion Holocaust.
@RalphMariedeLargo Taking away pro-choice is what degrades women's rights, and THAT goes against the constitution.
Bringing up situations like the Holocaust is a stupid card to play because THEIR victims were ALREADY LIVING PEOPLE WHO HAD LIVES.
I already HAVE my one-way ticket to heaven because I already went through Hell. I was abused as a child because I was an UNWANTED child. There were many times where I had wished that I was NEVER born.
@threetailedfox1 You can also argue that poverty forcing women to choose abortion is what degrades women's rights. ;)
I'm am honestly sorry that you've had such a difficult time. But so many "unwanted" children have gone on to do amazing things. Abortion destroys any of that hope.
@NeverDoubt1 Poverty also forces women to have babies because they can't afford an abortion or give them up for adoption in the first place. Yes, it costs money to give it up.
And I meant that abortion keeps those "possible children" from experiencing abuse IN THE FIRST PLACE. THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. Think about the unwanted children. Many of them have given up on having a good life, and a large percentage end up committing suicide. If you want those children to have a happy life, ADOPT THEM THEN.
@threetailedfox1 I know what you meant. But many abused children also want to live, despite their difficulties. Who are we to decide they shouldn't even get the chance in the first place?
And I've love to adopt a child in the future for the record. ;)
@NeverDoubt1 Oh, well let me see, hmmm, OH! I know! It's because it's JUST A BUNCH OF CELLS!!! It's not a human when it's inside the womb!!! Why should it have more rights than the person who is CARRYING the damn thing?!?!? And I said "many of them" not ALL of them!
Every time a girl gets her period, she's having an 'abortion'.
@threetailedfox1 We'll have to respectfully disagree on this point. Yes of course it's cells, but it's not going to grow up to be a chair or a doorknob, it's going to be a human. But I won't argue science, so end of that discussion.
@threetailedfox1 I've actually done that in other discussions. It's not going to grow up to be a donkey either. Happy? Again, we disagree and that's fine.
@threetailedfox1 for an alleged woman; you sure are ignorant about a woman's body. Every month a gerl gets her menses, she's having an ovum and its uterine lining expelled. Menstruation is NOT Abortion. Duh... You didn't listen too well to yo moma's lecture; thinking about boys... Mmm...? O wait, this is 2011, thinking abut gerls...?
@threetailedfox1 A woman has a Constitutional right to kill another Citizen, now that's golden propaganda those Prochoice Pukes are good at it, or maybe you're just a retard who can't think for yourself. The Vicar of Christ the late great John Paul says, who teaches infallibly the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ, "The moral gravity of procured abortion is apparent in all its truth if we recognize that we are dealing with murder..." in his Encyclical Letter, Evangelium Vitæ.
@threetailedfox1 You'd better check your one-way ticket that you hold in your hand again bb gerl. If you're Prochoice then it most certainly reads as a one-way ticket destination HELL riding upon Lucifer's Express. Trust me. I'm Pro-Life. I also know the heaven-hell train schedule.
@threetailedfox1 Btw... it's God's body not yours and you're a Traitor not a Patriot, please... Abolish this nation's Prochoice public scandal, this Crime against Humanity, end Abortion Holocaust.
Don't want a child. "CALL THE MURDER DOCTORS!" Don't want a baby. "CALL THE MURDER DOCTORS!"
Hand them your money, have your child MURDERED! MURDERED! MURDERED! They don't care what you go through, just give them your money. They don't care about you, just their jobs. Give them your money to have your child MURDERED! MURDERED! MURDERED!
@mjt19741 This tells me that you don't care about the children who have already been born, but live in the orphanages, or are abused, or even used as a sex slave.
If you did, then you wouldn't let them experience all those terrible things in the first place.
@mjt19741 I don't recognize it as murder because it's not. It is just a bunch of cells. It doesn't even have its soul yet!
Stop using living people to have already been born as a failed example.It's also my choice to stab them and push their arm up so that the gun doesn't shoot my head. There. I'm safe. You see? Even a baby could try to fight back in some way. They grab the attention of others. A fetus can't breathe, It can't utter a sound, and IT'S NOT A BABY. Babies have already been born.
@threetailedfox1 How is it not murder? The abortion industry will never call it a human or a baby, but they do say the fetus is part of the human species.
If it is part of the human species, how is it not murder?
The government doesn't recognize abortion as murder, but at one point and time the government did.
Any pediatrition will admit a fetus is a baby/human, an abortionist will not.
@mjt19741 I agree, and what really upsets me is I can see pro choice groups caring about the mother. But it's wrong when they distort science to forward their agenda. Even before Roe v. Wade people knew it was a baby.
@NeverDoubt1 What really gets me is that they are for womens rights, but how many aborted fetuses will become women? They are not only murdering future humans, but they are also murdering future women.
@NeverDoubt1 I knew India was abortion babies because they are girls. They are doing that in alot of the middle east countries and South Africa also, but I didn't know China was doing that.
@mjt19741 China had their "only one child" program to lower the population and it tended to be girls who were aborted. I see Chinese Americans all the time protesting their corrupt government. I was not happy to see our President making nice with China the other day, heh.
@NeverDoubt1 Also before Roe v. Wade, the government recognized abortion as murder. Now Jane Roe(Roe v. Wade) has an organization called Operation Rescue, and trying to get everyone to realize what she did was she had manipulated the system and wishes she never had anything to do with it. She has a couple of videos on youtube. If you wish to see them, just type in Jane Roe.
@mjt19741 Yes, Roe v. Wade was the government manipulating a vulnerable woman and rewriting science to forward an agenda. I don't think things would necessarily get better if Roe was repealed, abortions would still happen. What needs to be repealed is the poverty in this country.
@mjt19741 You know also I'm reminded of the 1966 film Alfie, which showed a back alley abortion. Even the abortionist himself called it a crime against the unborn infant. Women at that time felt they had no choice but abort, but they certainly knew it was a baby. They didn't hide behind a distortion of science claiming it wasn't human.
@NeverDoubt1 They have forgotten that at that time, the government recognized abortion as murder. Now they government doesn't recognize it as murder and sell dead babies dna to drug comanies and cosmetic companies.
@mjt19741 says: the government recognized abortion as murder.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ hahahhahaha PROLIFE LIAR...that never happened...illegal abortion never meant murder... You poor thing...you just cant scrape up shit to use, can you? LOLOL
@RalphMariedeLargo You think I'm an ignorant savage. You've been to so many places, I guess it must be so. But still I cannot see, how the savage one is me. How can there be so much that you don't know? You don't know.
Learn about the facts of abortion before you say it on the internet. Learn why people choose pro-choice, and learn why people choose 'pro-life' (even though their organizations encourage pro-war).
@threetailedfox1 I agree that some pro life groups are very conservative and supported the Iraq war. But not every pro life organization agrees with that. Again, don't assume.
@NeverDoubt1 Well THAT person is assuming that the whole world is thinking like Hitler.
And don't butt in. I was talking to that person, not you. (Unless you're trying to 'break up a fight' in which there is none at this part.) So BACK OFF.
@threetailedfox1 Fair enough. And since you're being rude I won't talk to you at all. For the record I admire that you care about women, not enough people do. I hope at some point you realize it doesn't have to be an either or situation. Take care!
I care about women because I AM one. I don't want the government butting into our personal lives. And I don't want them to take away abortion because those who don't want a child will be forced to go to back-alley clinics, where their lives are put into jeopardy.
@threetailedfox1 Any woman who goes to the back-alley to murder their own child deserves to have their life in jeopardy. Why should America make it easier to murder fellow Citizens? Btw, I was certain that you were male. Are you a dyke by chance?
@threetailedfox1 I think that you're a Prochoice Wh'oe, a Bitch of Satan. I wouldn't insult a savage by comparing him to you. The savage doesn't read, he doesn't have the Internet to look at all the pictures of bloody butchered bodies the likes of you advocate. Prochoice is the killing of a human being's beating heart. Prochoice is a daemon physician getting financial profit for murder. Prochoice is a sin against our Creator, Almighty God our eternal Father who divinely protects this nation.
@threetailedfox1 You are sitting there to tell RalphMarriedeLargo to mature and telling him that all pro life people are pro war.
A little advice here. Not every one who is pro life is pro war. Not everyone who is pro life is religious. Not everyone who is pro life is Republican.
You also have to understand that some people who are pro choice are pro war, Christian and Republican. U don't have to be Democrat, religious or pro war to be pro choice. You have the same kind of people we do.
@RalphMariedeLargo Your a child molester you sick prick.Suck jesus cock you bitch i bet you swallow.Live in your filth.Your a maget on this earth.Father Satan is God,False jehova is jealous,learn shit before you get fucked.to late.you cant do a goddanm thing i dare you to try.Get on your knees bitch
@starrocket666 Holy Spirit, I beseech Thee, lead starrocket666 to know the love of Jesus Christ, through the Immaculate heart of Mary and the Holy Mother Church. Bless him abundantly and his Angel Guardian protect him always. AMEN.
@TheVVanderingStar When I speak to the profane baby killer Prochoicers then I use profanity. It fits for them. Trust me I'm a Poet. I loath their Abortion-Genocide Advocacy. Our Republic is dying.
@TheVVanderingStar While we have been 'turning the other cheek' we Pro-Life stand with our finger up our noses and our thumbs up our arse and watch the GENOCIDE of 52 Million fellow Citizens. You're not very Christian for doing nothing as this nation's public sin Abortion Holocaust goes on and on.
@TheVVanderingStar You're NOT a Christian! Well, now I have a virtual friend who can carry my slice of bread when I want it toasted.... Mmmm... Not a Christian... inhuman torment... eternal flames... O... never mind. I don't like burnt toast.
@RalphMariedeLargo Pro-choice means that women could have the right to have control over their body without having the government tell her 'no'. If she wants a baby, she can have it. If she doesn't, she won't. IT'S THAT SIMPLE.
All you unrepentant loathsome, baby killing, genocidal murder NARAL Prochoice Evildoers who commit a public scandal against our Creator, Almighty God, who advocate a heinous Crime against Humanity, who deny a fellow Citizen of his God given unalienable right to life, who legitimizes the last vestiges of Slavery, who destroy the moral fabric of our nation...
@starrocket666 Burn in the everlasting fires of HELL, you Atheist Prochoice Devil Worshiper, you Whore of Satan, you burn in HELL with unrepentant, dyke baby killer Nancy Keenan.
Get upon your knees and ask our Lord Jesus Christ for His forgiveness with your sin of Prochoice and Apostasy, for the caldron of HELL awaits your unrepentant soul where with your body you shall wail in inhuman torment for all eternity, your body aflame within, you surrounded by flames, you gnash your teeth and cry.
you prolifers are sick: you exploit children for your cause: 12 yr old lia mills in ontario canada & a 7 yr old (7!!!!) making prolife videos.these kids are being raped of their childhood innocence & you tell me abortionists & prochoicers are bad. no, not in a million years would prochoicers sink ot that level. that is child abuse.
"What does it mean to be "pro-choice"?" Look at the "choice" (as in "pro-choice") that Ms. Keenan is promoting: Center for Bio-Ethical Reform website.
@Hexl702 Hexl agrees. That aint the point. What's important is where it is - inside the woman. Location, location, location.
then you can't say it's just a clump of cells. what about conjoint twins, why can't then kill the twin if they have to? let alone if one twin put the other into that situation. the one that did it should have less rights, not more.now i'm done feeding the troll you sick s.o.b
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 you have no understanding of what pro choice is. Pro choice is not an advocate for abortion; it means what it says: women have the CHOICE to do what they want with their bodies, including choosing whether or not they want to bring a child into this world. Who are we to stop them from doing it, as long as they do it legally?
@NonPointRulz101 they do have a choice, when they HAVE SEX. i mean, wtf do you think happens when you shove a dick in you? as far as "as long as it is legally", isn't that what we are debating should be legal in the first place? woman have all the choice in the world when they have sex, if they get pregnant, so what? they CHOOSE to have sex.
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 Have you ever heard of rape? What if a woman gets raped, and decides that the pressure of carrying the burden of her rapist and then giving birth to that burden is just too much for her. Are you saying that she should not have the right to choose what she wants to do with HER OWN BODY, simply because we "Gots ta tink of da chil'ren"?
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 I am not talking about statistics; I am talking in general. But I don't even think you'd understand what I mean because it seems like you have already made up your mind (so have I, of course)
but you gotta think: we both don't like abortion, but the difference between you and me is that I know that it is wrong to try to get rid of something SIMPLY because of my personal feelings about it. I believe that is how communism got started, right?
@NonPointRulz101 i don't want to get rid of it because it's my "personal feelings" any differently than me not liking stealing or other types of murder. i have compassion for a human life that can't speak for themselves. who is the one trying to kill a baby because they feel it's ok?
@FREEAMERICANOW69 isn't that what this is about, what it is called? it used to be considered a baby, and illegal to abort. so was it once ok for you? and it's not a constitutional right to abort til birth. if ppl really felt that what ever the courts say goes then they would be protesting to keep abortion legal, if it was illegal then they would take that thinking back.
hint: human development, just because you skipped that class in HS, doesn't mean we all did.
"An infant or baby is the very young offspring of humans...It is typically applied to children between the ages of 1 month and 12 months." wiki
no, abortion was not illegal at all, in america before roe vs. wade....read the court case, the chick "roe" wanted an abortion of convience, she couldn't do that because it was illegal except abortions for rape, incest or health.
@FREEAMERICANOW69 who cares what we call something, it still is what it is. you're saying a premie is more than a 9 month along "fetus"? idc what we call them.
also, abortion was illegal, if varied from state to state. most were illegal,
@F "In September 1969, Norma L. McCorvey discovered she was pregnant. She returned to Dallas, where friends advised her to assert falsely that she had been raped, because then she could obtain a LEGAL ABORTION (with the understanding that Texas' anti-abortion laws allowed abortion in the cases of rape and incest). "
roe vs wade , wiki.
i told you read roe vs wade BEFORE commenting because U clearly don't know what fuck you're talking about.
@FREEAMERICANOW69 i don't care about titles, idon't care what it is called, it is still as developed as a born baby. my point was a premie is less developed then a 9 month in the womb. how gives a crap what it's called. also, you don't need to be a "baby" to deserve live, that's why abortion is not allowed after a point. why do you think when a pregnant woman is murdered it counts as a double homicide?
"i don't care about titles, idon't care what it is called, it is still as developed as a born baby."
that's your and many other pro-life fascists' problem, you guys started an debate with no real logic, only based on emotion, and when your argument been debunked---YOU SHUT DOWN AND BECOME A TROLL.
there are no unborn babies, there is no such thing a tween (that was created by ad agencies) , and you are not a undead corpse.
@FREEAMERICANOW69 you realize that just because something isn't legally a baby doesn't mean it can be killed. don't believe me? look it up. why do you think abortion is illegal at a point.
realized what? you still don't have any logic in your argument but an emotional appeals that will never trump law, ignores science, and starting to become a complete waste time.
first of all, a fetus is not only legally, a baby but biologically as well...and you know it because you can't scientifically prove it.
prove that a fetus is actually a baby, when babies are born.
abortion maybe illegal passed viability at the state's discretion....read roe vs wade.
@FREEAMERICANOW69 "first of all, a fetus is not only legally, a baby but biologically as well...and you know it because you can't scientifically prove it."
"prove that a fetus is actually a baby, when babies are born."
first you said it is a baby, then not? which is it? also, you don't need to be born to deserve life legally, why do you think you can't get an abortion after a point? YOU read roe vs. wade.
my bad, a fetus is not legally and biologically, a baby.
"you don't need to be born to deserve life legally" that's a red herring, an emotional appeal.
again, troll because roe vs wade said the state has a say after viability, which i said that many times.....read roe vs. wade.
states doesn't stop you from getting a late-term abortions, YOU JUST HAVE TO GO TO ANOTHER STATE and won't stop you from drinking abortifacients, either.
what? it wasn't about a "need" for a fetus to live, it was somebody's bullshit morality, knowing that once the child was born--- they wouldn't legally be responsible of taking care of it= a powertrip.
"why do you think when a pregnant woman is murdered it counts as a double homicide?"
sigh, feticide is killing the woman's fetus w/o her permission and in alot of states it's not even murder, like in NM.
Only some 29 states have fetal homicide laws, and theyre careful to say "this is
something apart from abortion."
It's different from abortion because of the intent. A woman does it to get out of a pregnancy. We've decided, that's her right. Someone who isnt pregnant can't have that reason.
@Hexl702 then it does deserve life. you can't say it's just a clump of cells.
let's see, there are 2 humans, 1 put them selves in that situation, but that person can take the life of the other? you're sick. you think the fetus wants to be slaughtered?
Let's say the fetus was capable of having emotions like "not wanting to be slaughtered." Let's say the woman wants an abortion.
NOW WHAT? How you gonna save it? Physical force? Hexl has never seen a prolicker in life grab women either about to go in, or inside the clinic. Thats out.
You wanna make abortion illegal? Punish women? Hexl asks for the 21849348234th time "What's the crime and what's the punishment?"
@Hexl702 yes, physical force, just like any other murder prevention. yes i want abortion illegal to an extent, it should be treated like killing anyone else, you can in some cases (not for convenience. the crime murder, and idk about the punishment just like i don't know about any other murders, case by case. i'm not talking to a troll who talks to himself in the 3rd person.
@Hexl702 you sound like a christian, atheists are a minority but we are right, most ppl hate gay rights, but they are wrong. also, most ppl are pro-life dumbass. now im done feeding the troll
@Hexl702 no, you're saying it's legal therefor it's right, then why do you care if it is made illegal? and if majority doesn't rule than why you bringing up majorities?
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 just like the "prolifers" don't try to convict a hitman who kills abortion providers or bomb abortion clinics. they stay silent (thus condoning) when this happens or they try to hide them making them accecories)
@canadianskye1964 i don't condone bombing anything, but at least those ppl are not as bad as the abortionists. what am i suppost to do, go arrest them?
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 abortion doctors & prochoicers don't cause the problems. it's you religious zealots who do. and why not arrest a hitman who kills an abortion doctor or firebombs an abortion clinic. the prolife grapevine is so closed no doubt you all have links where you can find who these psychopaths are. you do silently condone it. .
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 the above comment about lia, ect was directed at you & other prolife nutcases. your children should be removed from your homes or you should be sterilized if you are going to raise a child to this extreme. dead fetus' in jars are one thing: but using children is evil.
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 i don't have kids so get out of my face. i am lived a life a chastity but, if God forbid, i ever got raped, no one would be able to stop me from h
I loved that she talked about the importance of sex-ed and contriception in this video. As a pro-choice supporter, I think the education is essential. If we had fewer unplanned pregnancies, we'd have fewer abortions, and that is what most pro-choice supporters want to see. We want to see fewer women feeling like they have to make this decision in the first place.
tra1215 2 months ago
Before bigoted Pro-Lifers judge women who have committed to aborting their babies, we must understand that, as Pro-Lifers, it is not the women who are our enemies, nor are the doctors our enemies, not the members who choose to support abortion, but instead we face an enemy in ideas: eg. ideas claiming no moral equivalence between humans of earlier stages of life and humans of later stages.
SpankinMusic 3 months ago
I am pro-choice, but I want to reduce the number of abortions, so I want to reduce the number of unplanned pregnancies, so I want to make birth control more widely available and affordable, so I support Planned Parenthood's efforts to do exactly that.
I occasionally donate a (very) little money, but more often I buy condoms, take them to their health centers and donate them.
What do pro-life people do to reduce the number of unplanned pregnancies?
Let's treat the problem, not the symptom.
ndrthrdr1 6 months ago in playlist Pro Choice
talk about moral relativism...
theden 9 months ago
Ummm.... she sounds so evil. Baby killing is the RIGHT CHOICE to her. Disgusting. Saying big words makes murdering babies good, also saying they should give up their child for adoption WOW she loves when the innocent suffer. Being thrown away from their mothers and fathers What animal throws away its own children? ONLY the human animal. Kills its OWN CHILD for its own selfish sake. Not thinking of the yet to be brought into the world, only the currently living. I wouldd give up my life fr a chid
SunnyLovetts 1 year ago
@SunnyLovetts Yeah, Big words does make it OK. I'm only pro-choice because of how hot that woman was. And being a pro-life person trying to persuade pro-choice people is like a Christian persuading an Atheist. It's what we believe. You don't have to like it. I respect your opinion, just like I expect you to respect mine.
swva7956 11 months ago
Ads are trippy...
SunnyLovetts 1 year ago
Pro Choice means standing for murder and giving excuses for murder. I heard a quote that said "All those who support abortion were all born" they wouldn't be here today supporting Pro Choice if they were aborted. ... When you abort a baby you abort your own child.. Not only that but what about the GUILT the mothers must experience... Knowing they killed their own child? And every time they see babies they say "I could of had a relationship w/ my baby :("
ABeanieBug 1 year ago
@ABeanieBug
Nah, it's more like "All the proloofas were born because their mother made a CHOICE,
she wasnt forced into it."
Hexl702 1 year ago 5
@ABeanieBug """what about the guilt'""
Hexl isnt interested in making women feel like murderers, and I wonder why you ARE.
Hexl702 1 year ago 2
@ABeanieBug "Could of had"...go back to elementary school you moron.
batmanpronz 11 months ago
Did you have an abortion and DON'T FEEL GUILTY? Me too. You're not alone. Most women feel this way. Message me your story. Let's make our voices heard.
lovelygrl400 1 year ago 8
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Send them to prison for ten years if they get an abortion. that will stop those baby murdering whores!
janole3711 1 year ago
"What Does it Mean to be 'Pro-Choice.'" Pick me, pick me... I know what it means Mz Dyke... Pro-Choice means that the mother doesn't want to bother with her child in her womb, like it makes her fat, so she uses this nation's Satanic Supreme Court tyranny to pay, um... get obama care to make TaxPayers to pay for a learned and gifted physician who took and oath to respect life to cut the little baby into pieces with his abortion knife and use a Hoover vacuum to suck up all the bloody body parts.
RalphMariedeLargo 1 year ago
CarmillaCalamity... O my dear sister in Christ, you don't know the commandments so well, it really reads, "be respectful at all times, Prochoice be damned." If anyone needs to do penance, and lots of it, it is you Prochoice baby killing Evildoers. I suggest that you get started, now or don't bother and I'll see you burn in HELL, Prochoice Bitch.
RalphMariedeLargo 1 year ago
@threetailedfox1... If you are sincere about boarding the Saint Peter Express to heaven then recite and pray this Hail Mary twice each day, until your judgment day. The Church authenticates that our Blessed Virgin Mother Mary promised a Saint that if you pray this prayer, the Hail Mary, twice each day, then she shall bestow upon you the necessary graces for heaven.
RalphMariedeLargo 1 year ago
@threetailedfox1...
Hail Mary full of grace
the Lord is with you.
Blessed are you amongst women
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb
Jesus.
Holy Mary, mother of God
pray for us sinners
now and at the hour of our death.
AMEN.
RalphMariedeLargo 1 year ago 2
@threetailedfox1... I'm sorry that you were denied a happy loving childhood. This has to be a burden upon your life. Maybe you are called by God to be a Pro-Life defender of babies not their Prochoice killer. Ask for healing from our Blessed Virgin Mother Mary and pray...
RalphMariedeLargo 1 year ago
Good video.
Too bad the forum is full of fail trolls.
CamillaCalamity 1 year ago
@CamillaCalamity Baby killing genocide video, too bad the forum is full of Prochoice Wh'oes.
RalphMariedeLargo 1 year ago
@RalphMariedeLargo Yeah, and anti-choice bigots too.
CamillaCalamity 1 year ago
@CamillaCalamity REPENT and you condemn your advocacy of this once noble nation's Abortion Holocaust little gerl for Jesus Christ is condemning your unrepentant baby killing heart of stone into the everlasting flames of HELL, you Prochoice Harlot. I do you a great show of charity to take my time to message a dog puke, baby killing bastard Prochoice genocidal maniac Evildoer like you, to warn you. Thank me in heaven but I seriously doubt that I'll see you there. All you Prochoice are damned fools
RalphMariedeLargo 1 year ago
@RalphMariedeLargo You need to repent of your Youtube sins, you have broken the "be respectful at all times" commandment. Quite alot I see. You are going to have to do penitence.
CamillaCalamity 1 year ago
I am amazed that his Evildoer dyke can be so good at Prochoice propaganda and lead so many retarded unrepentant Americans into the everlasting flames of HELL.
Can you say, Public Skools... O never mind.
RalphMariedeLargo 1 year ago
@RalphMariedeLargo Congradulations You have just been admitted into the Westboro Baptist Church and other clubs that want to take away women's rights and degrade them to the point of being slaves~!
I'd rather not have some dick of a person control my life.
threetailedfox1 1 year ago
@threetailedfox1 Congradulations {sic} You have just been admitted into the Prochoice baby killing bastards church of Satan. The fires of everlasting HELL is yours for your unrepentant sin against God our Creator. Abolish Abortion-Genocide... Where are all the Patriots who took an oath to defend our Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic enemy Prochoice? 52 Million fellow Citizens sacrificed at the wicked alter of Planned Parenthood. This Republic end our Abortion Holocaust.
RalphMariedeLargo 1 year ago
@RalphMariedeLargo Taking away pro-choice is what degrades women's rights, and THAT goes against the constitution.
Bringing up situations like the Holocaust is a stupid card to play because THEIR victims were ALREADY LIVING PEOPLE WHO HAD LIVES.
I already HAVE my one-way ticket to heaven because I already went through Hell. I was abused as a child because I was an UNWANTED child. There were many times where I had wished that I was NEVER born.
I'm a patriot, NOT AN INCUBATOR. It's MY body!!!
threetailedfox1 1 year ago
@threetailedfox1 You can also argue that poverty forcing women to choose abortion is what degrades women's rights. ;)
I'm am honestly sorry that you've had such a difficult time. But so many "unwanted" children have gone on to do amazing things. Abortion destroys any of that hope.
NeverDoubt1 1 year ago
@NeverDoubt1 Poverty also forces women to have babies because they can't afford an abortion or give them up for adoption in the first place. Yes, it costs money to give it up.
And I meant that abortion keeps those "possible children" from experiencing abuse IN THE FIRST PLACE. THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. Think about the unwanted children. Many of them have given up on having a good life, and a large percentage end up committing suicide. If you want those children to have a happy life, ADOPT THEM THEN.
threetailedfox1 1 year ago
@threetailedfox1 I know what you meant. But many abused children also want to live, despite their difficulties. Who are we to decide they shouldn't even get the chance in the first place?
And I've love to adopt a child in the future for the record. ;)
NeverDoubt1 1 year ago
@NeverDoubt1 Oh, well let me see, hmmm, OH! I know! It's because it's JUST A BUNCH OF CELLS!!! It's not a human when it's inside the womb!!! Why should it have more rights than the person who is CARRYING the damn thing?!?!? And I said "many of them" not ALL of them!
Every time a girl gets her period, she's having an 'abortion'.
threetailedfox1 1 year ago
@threetailedfox1 Well now we're arguing science and I'm sorry but saying it's not a human life is like saying evolution didn't happen.
NeverDoubt1 1 year ago
@NeverDoubt1 No it's not! It's just a bunch of human cells, THAT'S what I'm saying. Until the last few weeks, it can't even feel pain!
threetailedfox1 1 year ago
@threetailedfox1 We'll have to respectfully disagree on this point. Yes of course it's cells, but it's not going to grow up to be a chair or a doorknob, it's going to be a human. But I won't argue science, so end of that discussion.
NeverDoubt1 1 year ago
@NeverDoubt1 Bringing up furniture doesn't get you off the hook. You could've used animals instead.
threetailedfox1 1 year ago
@threetailedfox1 I've actually done that in other discussions. It's not going to grow up to be a donkey either. Happy? Again, we disagree and that's fine.
NeverDoubt1 1 year ago
@NeverDoubt1 What about stem-cell research? It could end up saving someone else's life, or give its cells to help people walk again. Stuff like that.
threetailedfox1 1 year ago
@threetailedfox1 So could adult stem cell research.
NeverDoubt1 1 year ago
@NeverDoubt1 Other than a lady giving up some ovaries, it's not 'adult stem cell research'
threetailedfox1 1 year ago
@threetailedfox1 for an alleged woman; you sure are ignorant about a woman's body. Every month a gerl gets her menses, she's having an ovum and its uterine lining expelled. Menstruation is NOT Abortion. Duh... You didn't listen too well to yo moma's lecture; thinking about boys... Mmm...? O wait, this is 2011, thinking abut gerls...?
RalphMariedeLargo 1 year ago
@threetailedfox1 A woman has a Constitutional right to kill another Citizen, now that's golden propaganda those Prochoice Pukes are good at it, or maybe you're just a retard who can't think for yourself. The Vicar of Christ the late great John Paul says, who teaches infallibly the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ, "The moral gravity of procured abortion is apparent in all its truth if we recognize that we are dealing with murder..." in his Encyclical Letter, Evangelium Vitæ.
RalphMariedeLargo 1 year ago
@threetailedfox1 You'd better check your one-way ticket that you hold in your hand again bb gerl. If you're Prochoice then it most certainly reads as a one-way ticket destination HELL riding upon Lucifer's Express. Trust me. I'm Pro-Life. I also know the heaven-hell train schedule.
RalphMariedeLargo 1 year ago
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RalphMariedeLargo 1 year ago
@threetailedfox1 Btw... it's God's body not yours and you're a Traitor not a Patriot, please... Abolish this nation's Prochoice public scandal, this Crime against Humanity, end Abortion Holocaust.
RalphMariedeLargo 1 year ago
MURDER! MURDER! MURDER!
Don't want a child. "CALL THE MURDER DOCTORS!" Don't want a baby. "CALL THE MURDER DOCTORS!"
Hand them your money, have your child MURDERED! MURDERED! MURDERED! They don't care what you go through, just give them your money. They don't care about you, just their jobs. Give them your money to have your child MURDERED! MURDERED! MURDERED!
Just give them a call. 1-800-4MURDER.
Charges and fees apply.
mjt19741 1 year ago
@mjt19741 This tells me that you don't care about the children who have already been born, but live in the orphanages, or are abused, or even used as a sex slave.
If you did, then you wouldn't let them experience all those terrible things in the first place.
threetailedfox1 1 year ago
@threetailedfox1 How does aborting them stop that? How does abortion cure that stuff?
What you said tells me you don't recognize it as murder.
If someone points a gun to your head, it is their choice to murder you. Not yours.
Abortion is the same thing. The baby does not have the choice, the mother does. Therefore abortion is equivilent to murder.
mjt19741 1 year ago
@mjt19741 I don't recognize it as murder because it's not. It is just a bunch of cells. It doesn't even have its soul yet!
Stop using living people to have already been born as a failed example.It's also my choice to stab them and push their arm up so that the gun doesn't shoot my head. There. I'm safe. You see? Even a baby could try to fight back in some way. They grab the attention of others. A fetus can't breathe, It can't utter a sound, and IT'S NOT A BABY. Babies have already been born.
threetailedfox1 1 year ago
@threetailedfox1 Because it doesn't fight back from an attack it must not be a baby? Hmm....
NeverDoubt1 1 year ago
@threetailedfox1 And so because it can't fight back for itself it's OK to kill it? Nice...
NeverDoubt1 1 year ago
@threetailedfox1 How is it not murder? The abortion industry will never call it a human or a baby, but they do say the fetus is part of the human species.
If it is part of the human species, how is it not murder?
The government doesn't recognize abortion as murder, but at one point and time the government did.
Any pediatrition will admit a fetus is a baby/human, an abortionist will not.
mjt19741 1 year ago
@mjt19741 I agree, and what really upsets me is I can see pro choice groups caring about the mother. But it's wrong when they distort science to forward their agenda. Even before Roe v. Wade people knew it was a baby.
NeverDoubt1 1 year ago
@NeverDoubt1 What really gets me is that they are for womens rights, but how many aborted fetuses will become women? They are not only murdering future humans, but they are also murdering future women.
mjt19741 1 year ago
@mjt19741 Especially in India and China. They certainly know it's a baby that's being aborted and they're doing it because it's a girl.
NeverDoubt1 1 year ago
@NeverDoubt1 I knew India was abortion babies because they are girls. They are doing that in alot of the middle east countries and South Africa also, but I didn't know China was doing that.
mjt19741 1 year ago
@mjt19741 China had their "only one child" program to lower the population and it tended to be girls who were aborted. I see Chinese Americans all the time protesting their corrupt government. I was not happy to see our President making nice with China the other day, heh.
NeverDoubt1 1 year ago
@NeverDoubt1 Also before Roe v. Wade, the government recognized abortion as murder. Now Jane Roe(Roe v. Wade) has an organization called Operation Rescue, and trying to get everyone to realize what she did was she had manipulated the system and wishes she never had anything to do with it. She has a couple of videos on youtube. If you wish to see them, just type in Jane Roe.
mjt19741 1 year ago
@mjt19741 Yes, Roe v. Wade was the government manipulating a vulnerable woman and rewriting science to forward an agenda. I don't think things would necessarily get better if Roe was repealed, abortions would still happen. What needs to be repealed is the poverty in this country.
NeverDoubt1 1 year ago
@mjt19741 says: trying to get everyone to realize what she did was she had manipulated the system
~~~~~~~~~~ She didnt do shit...her attorneys DID, the ones she ran to and demanded all the help she could get
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Sueezee1 Now look at her, she is pro life now.
mjt19741 1 year ago
@mjt19741 That's something they prefer not to think about. ;)
NeverDoubt1 1 year ago
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@mjt19741 You know also I'm reminded of the 1966 film Alfie, which showed a back alley abortion. Even the abortionist himself called it a crime against the unborn infant. Women at that time felt they had no choice but abort, but they certainly knew it was a baby. They didn't hide behind a distortion of science claiming it wasn't human.
NeverDoubt1 1 year ago
@NeverDoubt1 They have forgotten that at that time, the government recognized abortion as murder. Now they government doesn't recognize it as murder and sell dead babies dna to drug comanies and cosmetic companies.
mjt19741 1 year ago
@mjt19741 There's a lot of non-logic and rewritten history in the abortion story, to say the least.
NeverDoubt1 1 year ago
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@NeverDoubt1 says: There's a lot of non-logic and rewritten history in the abortion story,
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ non logic acording to whose idea of logic? Yours? LOLOLOL
Sueezee1 1 year ago
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@mjt19741 says: the government recognized abortion as murder.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ hahahhahaha PROLIFE LIAR...that never happened...illegal abortion never meant murder... You poor thing...you just cant scrape up shit to use, can you? LOLOL
Sueezee1 1 year ago
Abortion is absolutely disgusting.
zhedron 1 year ago 2
FORA.TV... THE WORLD IS THINKING LIKE ADOLF HITLER, YOU EVILDOERS.
RalphMariedeLargo 1 year ago
@RalphMariedeLargo You think I'm an ignorant savage. You've been to so many places, I guess it must be so. But still I cannot see, how the savage one is me. How can there be so much that you don't know? You don't know.
Learn about the facts of abortion before you say it on the internet. Learn why people choose pro-choice, and learn why people choose 'pro-life' (even though their organizations encourage pro-war).
Learn something for once.
threetailedfox1 1 year ago
@threetailedfox1 For the record, I'm pro life and certainly not pro war. Don't assume things about people. ;)
NeverDoubt1 1 year ago
@NeverDoubt1 I said the ORGANIZATIONS, not the people.
threetailedfox1 1 year ago
@threetailedfox1 I agree that some pro life groups are very conservative and supported the Iraq war. But not every pro life organization agrees with that. Again, don't assume.
NeverDoubt1 1 year ago
@NeverDoubt1 Well THAT person is assuming that the whole world is thinking like Hitler.
And don't butt in. I was talking to that person, not you. (Unless you're trying to 'break up a fight' in which there is none at this part.) So BACK OFF.
threetailedfox1 1 year ago
@threetailedfox1 Fair enough. And since you're being rude I won't talk to you at all. For the record I admire that you care about women, not enough people do. I hope at some point you realize it doesn't have to be an either or situation. Take care!
NeverDoubt1 1 year ago
@NeverDoubt1 You're being rude for butting in.
I care about women because I AM one. I don't want the government butting into our personal lives. And I don't want them to take away abortion because those who don't want a child will be forced to go to back-alley clinics, where their lives are put into jeopardy.
Yeah, F you too. Bye
threetailedfox1 1 year ago
@threetailedfox1 I am one too. Sorry for butting in and I honestly wish you well. Bye.
NeverDoubt1 1 year ago
@threetailedfox1 Any woman who goes to the back-alley to murder their own child deserves to have their life in jeopardy. Why should America make it easier to murder fellow Citizens? Btw, I was certain that you were male. Are you a dyke by chance?
RalphMariedeLargo 1 year ago
@threetailedfox1 I think that you're a Prochoice Wh'oe, a Bitch of Satan. I wouldn't insult a savage by comparing him to you. The savage doesn't read, he doesn't have the Internet to look at all the pictures of bloody butchered bodies the likes of you advocate. Prochoice is the killing of a human being's beating heart. Prochoice is a daemon physician getting financial profit for murder. Prochoice is a sin against our Creator, Almighty God our eternal Father who divinely protects this nation.
RalphMariedeLargo 1 year ago
@threetailedfox1 You are sitting there to tell RalphMarriedeLargo to mature and telling him that all pro life people are pro war.
A little advice here. Not every one who is pro life is pro war. Not everyone who is pro life is religious. Not everyone who is pro life is Republican.
You also have to understand that some people who are pro choice are pro war, Christian and Republican. U don't have to be Democrat, religious or pro war to be pro choice. You have the same kind of people we do.
mjt19741 1 year ago
BLOODY LESBIAN
ThePearlofeire 1 year ago
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YOUR CHOICE WILL ALWAYS BE THE RIGHT CHOICE
MAKE SURE YOU ARE FREE TO MAKE IT
SUPPORT AMERICA PRO-CHOICE
PALOMITA694 1 year ago
Sueezee1... O.. I feel all warm and fuzzy inside when I am missed by you and inspired to greater prose.
BURN IN HELL
YOU PROCHOICE BITCHES OF LUCIFER
RalphMariedeLargo 1 year ago
@RalphMariedeLargo Your a child molester you sick prick.Suck jesus cock you bitch i bet you swallow.Live in your filth.Your a maget on this earth.Father Satan is God,False jehova is jealous,learn shit before you get fucked.to late.you cant do a goddanm thing i dare you to try.Get on your knees bitch
starrocket666 1 year ago
@starrocket666 Holy Spirit, I beseech Thee, lead starrocket666 to know the love of Jesus Christ, through the Immaculate heart of Mary and the Holy Mother Church. Bless him abundantly and his Angel Guardian protect him always. AMEN.
RalphMariedeLargo 1 year ago
@RalphMariedeLargo
Good lord, sir. Didn't your mother have the time to teach you manners? Perhaps abortion would have been a good choice for her!
TheVVanderingStar 1 year ago
@TheVVanderingStar When I speak to the profane baby killer Prochoicers then I use profanity. It fits for them. Trust me I'm a Poet. I loath their Abortion-Genocide Advocacy. Our Republic is dying.
RalphMariedeLargo 1 year ago
@RalphMariedeLargo
Turn the other cheek, my friend! You're not being very Christian ;-)
TheVVanderingStar 1 year ago
@TheVVanderingStar While we have been 'turning the other cheek' we Pro-Life stand with our finger up our noses and our thumbs up our arse and watch the GENOCIDE of 52 Million fellow Citizens. You're not very Christian for doing nothing as this nation's public sin Abortion Holocaust goes on and on.
RalphMariedeLargo 1 year ago
@RalphMariedeLargo
Well, duh. I'm not a Christian.
TheVVanderingStar 1 year ago
@TheVVanderingStar You're NOT a Christian! Well, now I have a virtual friend who can carry my slice of bread when I want it toasted.... Mmmm... Not a Christian... inhuman torment... eternal flames... O... never mind. I don't like burnt toast.
RalphMariedeLargo 1 year ago
@RalphMariedeLargo Pro-choice means that women could have the right to have control over their body without having the government tell her 'no'. If she wants a baby, she can have it. If she doesn't, she won't. IT'S THAT SIMPLE.
threetailedfox1 1 year ago
All you unrepentant loathsome, baby killing, genocidal murder NARAL Prochoice Evildoers who commit a public scandal against our Creator, Almighty God, who advocate a heinous Crime against Humanity, who deny a fellow Citizen of his God given unalienable right to life, who legitimizes the last vestiges of Slavery, who destroy the moral fabric of our nation...
BURN IN HELL YOU WHORES OF SATAN
RalphMariedeLargo 1 year ago
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@RalphMariedeLargo says: BURN IN HELL YOU WHORES OF SATAN
~~~~~~~~~~ We always love hearing from you, God!! LMAO!!
Sueezee1 1 year ago
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@RalphMariedeLargo says:" BURN IN HELL YOU WHORES OF SATAN
~~~~~~~~ We always love hearing from you, God!! LMAO
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@RalphMariedeLargo says: burn in hell you whores of satan
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ we always love hearing from you, God!! LOLOL
Sueezee1 1 year ago
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@Sueezee1 what kind of a loser r u ??
joemoin 1 year ago
@RalphMariedeLargo largo stands for lardo punk ass bitch
starrocket666 1 year ago
@starrocket666 Burn in the everlasting fires of HELL, you Atheist Prochoice Devil Worshiper, you Whore of Satan, you burn in HELL with unrepentant, dyke baby killer Nancy Keenan.
Get upon your knees and ask our Lord Jesus Christ for His forgiveness with your sin of Prochoice and Apostasy, for the caldron of HELL awaits your unrepentant soul where with your body you shall wail in inhuman torment for all eternity, your body aflame within, you surrounded by flames, you gnash your teeth and cry.
RalphMariedeLargo 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7
Hexl never did get an answer from you. Youre the one who
thinks physical
force is justified in rescuing a fetus about to be murdered, since this is a
NAZICAUST and we must use whatever means
necessary to counter pure evil.
I was asking you the last time you used physical force on a woman about to
enter a clinic. Since you feel THAT strongly about it.
Hexl702 1 year ago
you prolifers are sick: you exploit children for your cause: 12 yr old lia mills in ontario canada & a 7 yr old (7!!!!) making prolife videos.these kids are being raped of their childhood innocence & you tell me abortionists & prochoicers are bad. no, not in a million years would prochoicers sink ot that level. that is child abuse.
canadianskye1964 1 year ago
@canadianskye1964 and killing your child isn't?
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
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canadianskye1964 1 year ago
"What does it mean to be "pro-choice"?" Look at the "choice" (as in "pro-choice") that Ms. Keenan is promoting: Center for Bio-Ethical Reform website.
catburger1000 1 year ago
Nancy is smart, bright and speaks the truth.
Abolutin 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 """Who cares what we call the baby""
Hexl agrees. That aint the point. What's important is where it is - inside the woman. Location, location, location.
Hexl702 1 year ago
@Hexl702 Hexl agrees. That aint the point. What's important is where it is - inside the woman. Location, location, location.
then you can't say it's just a clump of cells. what about conjoint twins, why can't then kill the twin if they have to? let alone if one twin put the other into that situation. the one that did it should have less rights, not more.now i'm done feeding the troll you sick s.o.b
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 ""im done feeding the troll""
LOL, we've seen this before! The proliquors make a big show of "We must fight
for the babeez" and then
punk out and run from prochoice questions.
Hexl702 1 year ago
@Suezee1 Its just a term!
aaa333ify 1 year ago
wow, i guess i can kick a puppy because it's my CHOICE. what a dumb bitch.
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 those two things have nothing to do with each other, but yes, you can do that, "dumb bitch"
NonPointRulz101 1 year ago
@NonPointRulz101 yea, because 1 is KILLING.
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 you have no understanding of what pro choice is. Pro choice is not an advocate for abortion; it means what it says: women have the CHOICE to do what they want with their bodies, including choosing whether or not they want to bring a child into this world. Who are we to stop them from doing it, as long as they do it legally?
NonPointRulz101 1 year ago
@NonPointRulz101 they do have a choice, when they HAVE SEX. i mean, wtf do you think happens when you shove a dick in you? as far as "as long as it is legally", isn't that what we are debating should be legal in the first place? woman have all the choice in the world when they have sex, if they get pregnant, so what? they CHOOSE to have sex.
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 Have you ever heard of rape? What if a woman gets raped, and decides that the pressure of carrying the burden of her rapist and then giving birth to that burden is just too much for her. Are you saying that she should not have the right to choose what she wants to do with HER OWN BODY, simply because we "Gots ta tink of da chil'ren"?
NonPointRulz101 1 year ago
@NonPointRulz101 i do think that she can if she is raped, but the last time i checked not all woman who are pregnant are raped. get a new excuse.
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 I am not talking about statistics; I am talking in general. But I don't even think you'd understand what I mean because it seems like you have already made up your mind (so have I, of course)
but you gotta think: we both don't like abortion, but the difference between you and me is that I know that it is wrong to try to get rid of something SIMPLY because of my personal feelings about it. I believe that is how communism got started, right?
May the good FSM bless you :D
NonPointRulz101 1 year ago
@NonPointRulz101 i don't want to get rid of it because it's my "personal feelings" any differently than me not liking stealing or other types of murder. i have compassion for a human life that can't speak for themselves. who is the one trying to kill a baby because they feel it's ok?
RAmen
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7
you do know babies are born and killing them is called infanticide, not abortion.
and yes, to kill a unwanted bio-parasite is OK.
abortion is a civil and constitutional right.
FREEAMERICANOW69 1 year ago
@FREEAMERICANOW69 isn't that what this is about, what it is called? it used to be considered a baby, and illegal to abort. so was it once ok for you? and it's not a constitutional right to abort til birth. if ppl really felt that what ever the courts say goes then they would be protesting to keep abortion legal, if it was illegal then they would take that thinking back.
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@Flyin
stop pretending you know what you're talking about.
"it used to be considered a baby, and illegal to abort."
by whom? medical texts been calling a fetus, a fetus....it's emo-vernacular to call a fetus, a baby.
and there is no such thing as a unborn baby....a babies are born.
abortion was never illegal in this country...there was always abortion for rape, incest, and health for the woman. read roe vs. wade.
courts has to follow the laws; and 14th is about liberty
FREEAMERICANOW69 1 year ago
@FREEAMERICANOW69 who cares what we call the baby. do you think it magically becomes special when it's born? you're stupid.
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@F
babies are born.
hint: human development, just because you skipped that class in HS, doesn't mean we all did.
"An infant or baby is the very young offspring of humans...It is typically applied to children between the ages of 1 month and 12 months." wiki
no, abortion was not illegal at all, in america before roe vs. wade....read the court case, the chick "roe" wanted an abortion of convience, she couldn't do that because it was illegal except abortions for rape, incest or health.
FREEAMERICANOW69 1 year ago
@FREEAMERICANOW69 who cares what we call something, it still is what it is. you're saying a premie is more than a 9 month along "fetus"? idc what we call them.
also, abortion was illegal, if varied from state to state. most were illegal,
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@F "In September 1969, Norma L. McCorvey discovered she was pregnant. She returned to Dallas, where friends advised her to assert falsely that she had been raped, because then she could obtain a LEGAL ABORTION (with the understanding that Texas' anti-abortion laws allowed abortion in the cases of rape and incest). "
roe vs wade , wiki.
i told you read roe vs wade BEFORE commenting because U clearly don't know what fuck you're talking about.
abortion was legal in certain cases, duh!
FREEAMERICANOW69 1 year ago
@F
"who cares what we call something, it still is what it is. you're saying a premie is more than a 9 month along "fetus"? idc what we call them."
well, no, if you cared about science and accuracy , it's: zygote, embryo, fetus, baby.
you do know that a "premie" is born, right? so why in your failed would a premie still be a fetus?
what is wrong with you?
you don't even know anything about abortion or roe vs wade, why don't you educate yourself on the issues before commenting.
FREEAMERICANOW69 1 year ago
@FREEAMERICANOW69 i don't care about titles, idon't care what it is called, it is still as developed as a born baby. my point was a premie is less developed then a 9 month in the womb. how gives a crap what it's called. also, you don't need to be a "baby" to deserve live, that's why abortion is not allowed after a point. why do you think when a pregnant woman is murdered it counts as a double homicide?
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@Flyin
"i don't care about titles, idon't care what it is called, it is still as developed as a born baby."
that's your and many other pro-life fascists' problem, you guys started an debate with no real logic, only based on emotion, and when your argument been debunked---YOU SHUT DOWN AND BECOME A TROLL.
there are no unborn babies, there is no such thing a tween (that was created by ad agencies) , and you are not a undead corpse.
you're forgetting about process of birth.
FREEAMERICANOW69 1 year ago
@FREEAMERICANOW69 you realize that just because something isn't legally a baby doesn't mean it can be killed. don't believe me? look it up. why do you think abortion is illegal at a point.
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@F
realized what? you still don't have any logic in your argument but an emotional appeals that will never trump law, ignores science, and starting to become a complete waste time.
first of all, a fetus is not only legally, a baby but biologically as well...and you know it because you can't scientifically prove it.
prove that a fetus is actually a baby, when babies are born.
abortion maybe illegal passed viability at the state's discretion....read roe vs wade.
FREEAMERICANOW69 1 year ago
@FREEAMERICANOW69 "first of all, a fetus is not only legally, a baby but biologically as well...and you know it because you can't scientifically prove it."
"prove that a fetus is actually a baby, when babies are born."
first you said it is a baby, then not? which is it? also, you don't need to be born to deserve life legally, why do you think you can't get an abortion after a point? YOU read roe vs. wade.
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7
my bad, a fetus is not legally and biologically, a baby.
"you don't need to be born to deserve life legally" that's a red herring, an emotional appeal.
again, troll because roe vs wade said the state has a say after viability, which i said that many times.....read roe vs. wade.
states doesn't stop you from getting a late-term abortions, YOU JUST HAVE TO GO TO ANOTHER STATE and won't stop you from drinking abortifacients, either.
so again, you are wrong.
FREEAMERICANOW69 1 year ago
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@F
what? it wasn't about a "need" for a fetus to live, it was somebody's bullshit morality, knowing that once the child was born--- they wouldn't legally be responsible of taking care of it= a powertrip.
"why do you think when a pregnant woman is murdered it counts as a double homicide?"
sigh, feticide is killing the woman's fetus w/o her permission and in alot of states it's not even murder, like in NM.
FACT-CHECK TIME: wikipedia org/wiki/Feticide
dude, research BEFORE commenting
FREEAMERICANOW69 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 """why does it count as double homicide""
Only some 29 states have fetal homicide laws, and theyre careful to say "this is
something apart from abortion."
It's different from abortion because of the intent. A woman does it to get out of a pregnancy. We've decided, that's her right. Someone who isnt pregnant can't have that reason.
Hexl702 1 year ago
@Hexl702 then it does deserve life. you can't say it's just a clump of cells.
let's see, there are 2 humans, 1 put them selves in that situation, but that person can take the life of the other? you're sick. you think the fetus wants to be slaughtered?
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7
Let's say the fetus was capable of having emotions like "not wanting to be slaughtered." Let's say the woman wants an abortion.
NOW WHAT? How you gonna save it? Physical force? Hexl has never seen a prolicker in life grab women either about to go in, or inside the clinic. Thats out.
You wanna make abortion illegal? Punish women? Hexl asks for the 21849348234th time "What's the crime and what's the punishment?"
Hexl702 1 year ago
@Hexl702 yes, physical force, just like any other murder prevention. yes i want abortion illegal to an extent, it should be treated like killing anyone else, you can in some cases (not for convenience. the crime murder, and idk about the punishment just like i don't know about any other murders, case by case. i'm not talking to a troll who talks to himself in the 3rd person.
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7
LOL, tell us about the last time you actually used "physical
force' and stopped a woman from getting an abortion.
Hexl is all ears!
Hexl702 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 ""case by case""
So if a woman gets off scot-free for killing an actual human being,
like OJ Simpson, you dont have a problem with it?
Methinks that would be the case with abortion. Most women would get
let off. Theres some 70 million prochoicers in the U.S. and it only takes
ONE person to hang up a jury.
Enough women keep getting let off, people might think --a reason to
let someone off, is a reason she shouldnt be charged in the 1st place.
Hexl702 1 year ago
@Hexl702 i have no idea what you mean, you r nuts
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7
Hell, I thought it would be an EASY question to answer:
"If a woman on trial for abortion gets off scot-free, it's as bad as OJ
Simpson getting off""
Hexl702 1 year ago
@Hexl702 yes
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7
Yes -- was that the answer to "women are as bad as OJ Simpson"
or "Hexl is smart, beautiful and witty" ?
Hexl702 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7
The proloofas had their big chance last year. Their longest, deepest fantasy
came true -- Dr. Tiller on trial for illegal abortions! "WE'LL GIT 'IM NOW!
Except that he was acquitted. By a jury of solid, red state Kansas citizens. That was too much for the prolickers and they shot him.
Hexl702 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7
That was kind of Hexl's point. If the prolickers in a red state couldnt
even convict DR TILLER -- what the fukk makes you people will start
convicting women?
Hexl702 1 year ago
@Hexl702 the pro-licker (choicers) didn't try to convict a murderer.
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7
Now I don't know what youre trying to say.
People in polls may SAY theyre pro-lite, but when you start
asking questions like "Should they get the death penalty/life
in prison,"
the numbers scurry back to the pro choice side!
Sorry, Mr. Five-Percenter!
Hexl702 1 year ago
@Hexl702 you sound like a christian, atheists are a minority but we are right, most ppl hate gay rights, but they are wrong. also, most ppl are pro-life dumbass. now im done feeding the troll
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7
Well, when abortion is LEGAL, it doesnt matter if you think it's
wrong, eh? It's legal.
This is about the 3rd time you were done feeding the troll, LOL!
Hexl702 1 year ago
@Hexl702 no, you're saying it's legal therefor it's right, then why do you care if it is made illegal? and if majority doesn't rule than why you bringing up majorities?
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 ""Youre saying it's legal therefore its right"'
No I'm not. Hexl says -- we allow many objectionable, distasteful, unpalatable
things to be legal in this country.
Because people are within their
rights to do even disgusting things, OR because illegality would be stupid,
futile, or make things even worse.
Hexl702 1 year ago
@Hexl702 but yet you use what's legal to justify abortion.
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 """Why do you care if its made illegal"'
Because I dont want governments to have that kind of overreaching
omnipotent power over someone's absolute all, body and soul.
A reason for the state to
force pregnancy on someone against their will, would be a reason for
them for force abortions.
Hexl702 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7
Well, that IS the American way --- majority doesnt always rule
over individuals.
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canadianskye1964 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 just like the "prolifers" don't try to convict a hitman who kills abortion providers or bomb abortion clinics. they stay silent (thus condoning) when this happens or they try to hide them making them accecories)
canadianskye1964 1 year ago
@canadianskye1964 i don't condone bombing anything, but at least those ppl are not as bad as the abortionists. what am i suppost to do, go arrest them?
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 abortion doctors & prochoicers don't cause the problems. it's you religious zealots who do. and why not arrest a hitman who kills an abortion doctor or firebombs an abortion clinic. the prolife grapevine is so closed no doubt you all have links where you can find who these psychopaths are. you do silently condone it. .
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canadianskye1964 1 year ago
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@canadianskye1964 do you know how many woman had illegal abortions before roe vs wade?
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 yes just as you would likely have abortion doctors arrrested or firebombed or shot.
canadianskye1964 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 the above comment about lia, ect was directed at you & other prolife nutcases. your children should be removed from your homes or you should be sterilized if you are going to raise a child to this extreme. dead fetus' in jars are one thing: but using children is evil.
canadianskye1964 1 year ago
@canadianskye1964 we don't kill our children, how is that a bad thing?
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 i don't have kids so get out of my face. i am lived a life a chastity but, if God forbid, i ever got raped, no one would be able to stop me from h