(10/11) Battlefield II The Battle for Caen World War II

[mreducogo]

haha the germans pussyfooted ww2

[petrov850]

did he just say pussyfooting?

[liljgoneman]

It always seems like british run operations are costly during WW2...

[JFDA5458]

A Lieutenant commanding a battalion? I don't think so. 1:20

[rangerbobcat]

One of the bad things about the Battlefield II series is lack of review. In this

video they inflate the number of tanks by 10 times. In a previous video they

have the 101 SS PZ division instead of the 1 SS PZ division. In their Normandy

video they have the 1st US Infantry division attacking Utah beach instead of the

4th. Just sloppiness.

[2bn442RCT]

@rangerbobcat Yes I completely agree

[christof139]

What's bad about most videos concerning Normandy is taht you never see how the German tanks were shot-up quite badly when they were attacking the Allies. 12 Panthers from the 12SS went cavalry charging across a field against Canadian Inf. with 17 & 6 pdr. AT guns & only 5 survived after they quickly turned & fled. Many examples exist of this.

[marsneedstowels]

Perhaps these videos should be removed due to inaccuracies and repetitiveness. Stop complaining everyone.

[Isthisthelongestname]

5.22 that running clips is in every battlefield episode no matter what battle im sure ;)

Thanks for the upload.

[ibrekke]

The oral facts of the documentary is quite fair - however the film and photos used are not. It is clearly not matching in way too many cases - i.e. Cromwell's called Churchill's - Wittmann as Dollmann, GIs as British, British as Canadians and so on. The reuse of the same material is not very impressive - either the director is a lazy and at times, an ignorant twat or maybe he/she should consider new glasses - well my five cents anyway.

[Isthisthelongestname]

I agree, but there is only so much war footage available.

[Dogmeat1950]

there is a lot of war footage out there.

[11nytram11]

Monty's strategic plan for Normandy never changed from the moment he got involved in the planning in April/May of that year. He planned a holding action on the left and a break out on the right and this is exactly what happened, the method changed but the basic plan remained. He reiterrated this plan during the whole campaign whenever Churchill or Eisenhower got nervous and maintained a corispondence with Alan Brooke and De Guingand throughout the campaign and they kept Ike and Winston informed.

[11nytram11]

Problem occured both Ike and Winston wanted to be in Normandy but were stuck in Britain. Both of theu chaffed at being excluded from the action and both them allowed thier very limited tactical judgement and lack of patience to gloss over what they were being told. Tedder used this to his advantage to try and promote the sacking of Montgomery and Leigh-Mallory so that he coud get Leigh-Mallory's job. Tedder invented a crisis that didn;t exist and criticized Monty and Leigh-Mallory all the time

[11nytram11]

But once in Europe and in Monty's presence they had clarity. Monty talked them through the plan with calm patience and confidence and eveyone came away from his HQ knowing that Monty have everything well in hand. But once away from Monty the doubt set into Ike and Winston again and they had to be reassured by Brooke and De Guingand many more times before victory was achieved. Alan Brooke and Trafford Leigh-Mallory were supportive of Monty during Overlord, little support came from the others.

[11nytram11]

At one point Ike was so dissapointed at the pace of things in Normandy that he wanted to divert men and meterial to Southern France and launch Operation ANVIL before OVERLORD had reached its conclusion but was dissuaded from doing so. Furthermore Ike never got that this was an Allied Battle with an Allied plan and was always looking for a break out on the left when Monty's plan clearly stated that the break out was coming on the right and the left would only ever be a holding action.

[11nytram11]

Ike is responsible for the trend of dividing the Normandy Campaign between British and American sectors. After the war he said something along the lines of "when the British breakout failed it was clear the Americans would have to do it" and in effect he was saying the British failed and the Americans came to the rescue. This started a trend of people spliting the campaign in half and not focusing on the overall picture and so only got a limited view of what was accomplished in Normandy.

[11nytram11]

In fairness to Ike his job was hard even from Britain with Tedder plotting all the time. Tedder, for example, refused to authorize air support for either British/Commonwelath or American land forces even when the Americans were almost our of Ammo as he claimed that was a job for artillery and consistantly complaining about slow progress in Europe and imminant failure. Ike became defeatist with Tedder close by.

[11nytram11]

For all the doom and gloom in Britain and America and for all Tedder's plots and invented crisis Monty was never once truely in danger of failing to achieve his victory. Even though some unintentionally lessened the achievement in later years the Normandy Campaign was a great Allied success from its planning and training stages in the spring to its completion in the Autumn and its credit to Monty that despite the lack of faith and the daggers aimed at his back he steared the Allies to victory.

[101djarum]

It's sad that the British military and fighting men had to suffer Montgomery's poor judgment and even worse that he remained in command. Why was he not replaced? It also seemed he had the ear of Churchill, but Churchill wasn't a strategic thinker, he was concerned with views of "Empire", a politician . The British soldier's paid for the repeated lack of leadership and Montgomery's egocentric command. He seemed to fail the gravity and consequences of the immediate reality. Just my opinion.

[JuanKuzov]

@101djarum american by chance?

stop talking shyte

[HoustonGD]

8,000 tanks and armor! What are they talking about

[rifal004]

Maybe other kinds of AFV´s, like halftracks and armoured cars

[Lyndon1947]

@HoustonGD

400 tanks lost "more than 1/3 of strength"

[seienchin88]

@HoustonGD

Well I guess they just added all vehicles of the british

[Dragonite43]

@HoustonGD That's as silly as saying, "A 1,000 planes and fighters were lost."