To arthur 1046, i wouldn't trust vincent bugliosi as far as i could throw him. Oswald was at best a poor shooter. And why did no one see him come down the steps to the place where he said he went for a coke. Two female workers walking down the stairways, never saw him, at around the time of the shooting. This was a black ops mission, probably by guys from the Operaton 40 teams. The zapruder film clearly shows the fatal head shot, came from the front. Don't forget, Oswald was a bad shooter
So anybody else notice there are two bullet holes on Kennedy's back. Look about a 1/2 inch from the ruler. Directly across from the fingers. This wound was measured to be 6.5mm. Same as a Mannlicher Carcano the Oswald rifle. The upper wound measures 7.5 mm. However even discounting the difference in wound sizes. You are still left with two wounds and not one. Now we have 4 shots not 3. John Connelly maintained until the day he died. That he was shot after JFK was hit in the throat.
jfk had his right abducted, forward elevated and internally rotated with his elbow/forearm resting on the side of he car. he also had slouched posture.
there are better inconsistancies in the assassination to chase down than this one
@uranorexic So your "evidence" is the lies of mcadams or myers or some other known CIA ass wiper? I saw several pictures of Oswald's chin. The chin on the mystery CIA affiliate guy has a heavy squared off chin. Oswald has the rounded chin. No match. it was an obviously poor attempt at cut-paste.
And did you read what 10Faenor wrote below? Hoover lied about everything. All of the evidence against Oswald is invented & phony. I saw the Hoover videos. He was a controlled fag; like you.
On video 9fqMA9YV3ks he is sitting with his crime friends and certainly wearing a female’s hair bun and earrings, at 2:40 - 2:50. The CIA had picturess of this perv with young men & boys. He was involved in felony insider stock manipulation and other crimes. The CIA & mafia owned this piece of shit.
This lying felon fag supplied the phony documents to frame Oswald & cover up the Kennedy assassination.
@uranorexic Give the URL video code for cops saying they mistook the carcano for the mauser. The carcano has MADE ITALY stamped on it.
Try to prove Oswald had a rifle shipped to him. Try to prove fiber were on a rifle. You have only the fed liars words for that. Just lying ink spot on official letterhead.
"Hoover lied his eyes out to the Commission - on Oswald, on Ruby, on their friends, the bullets, the gun, you name it". --- Hale Boggs (D), House Majority Leader (1962 -71), Member of the WC.
@uranorexic Name those "independent" sources. Name just one. You can't do it. They do not exist. Of course, I anything you say must be verified. Give URL, or video, or web page. Of course, you cannot cite CIA lying ass wipes like mcadams or myers. That won't do at all.
Now, hurry and wipe the shit stain off of your moms rented dildo before she come home from work.
@uranorexic The question was answered correctly. The feds simply made up lies & evidence on letterhead paper. No bullets from any limo could be matched to a rifle that was only used as a prop to nail a pasty. The word was already out about the 7.65 Mauser rifle "found" in the TSBD. It was later changed to an Italian 6.5mm rifle. Problem? ALL imported 6.5mm Italian rifles imports have "MADE ITALY" stamped on their stock. Impossible not to see by 3 DPD cops at the same time in broad daylight.
@uranorexic How do you explain the fact that no bullets were matched to a gun that Oswald did not shoot?
But, I did read on an official looking letterhead that your mom was sucking every passing strangers dick in Cleveland on Dec 26th,1964. I am a public official, and wear a badge, and type whatever I want on official letterhead paper, so therefore you must believe anything I say.
It's good to see see that LoneNutter1 has stopped using profanity in his posts!
You have to admire his honesty telling everyone about his low esteem and lack of basic English and inability to communicate!! Well done, LoneNutter1!!
@usuIkane I think you'll find there was (1) posting where I used a naughty word. As for my low esteem, lack of basic English and inability to communicate, well, I'd reply but I can't stop laughing.
@LoneNutter1 Oh. So it must have been pretty bad. I understand your reluctance to say anything. You will just have to live with it on your conscience. Have you considered psychoanalysis? If you feel you need to talk about it I can recommend a therapist who works with sick people like you who have written obscene and offensive words on YouTube. His name is Larry Goldstein. He's good and doesn't charge a fortune to straighten you up - mentally.
@usuIkane Am I fucking imagining this? Have I stumbled into the fucking Twilight Zone? What are you? Some kind of fucking born again fucking naughty word freak? Psychoanalysis??!! Who the fuck are you and who the fuck is Larry Goldstein?
@LoneNutter1 Are you sure? There is no need to be embarrassed. I can arrange electric shock treatment as well ( to stop that embarrassing LOLing thing you do to your computer. I also stops the NWS - Naughty Word Syndrome). The EST is free although it may entail house visits and you will have to provide the electricity from your own domestic mains supply.
@LoneNutter1 LoneNutter1 commented on Never before seen Video of WTC 9/11 attack "@ChrisThomsen1976 You're so full of crap! You're clueless about what happend that day and you know nothing about the logistics of getting fighter aircraft aloft!"
So mature! So rational! So reasoned! ....So full of crap!! LOL
watch the reaction from the lady and man infront of jfk and his wife they guarded they're faces the woman shielded her face with the right side of her face and the man look at the driver and then duck behind the seat in fear of being shot....look closely and you will see fear greer killed kennedy (his brains and blood splatter backwards)
New sound technology proves 3 rifles firing from different locations, second floor not sixth clearing Ozwald and HW BUSH was there making sure he was dead
@thesecondcaller What a load of bunk. No such recordings exist. When you're ready to engage in an intelligent conversation about the assassination come back and visit. Until then, get lost.
@LoneNutter1 Hey!! Be polite!! You prattle on about 'intelligent conversation' and you tell people to 'get lost'!! This is totally unacceptable behavior!!!!
Your comments will now be monitored for any future infringements!
It's the Lone Nut theorist who ignore the facts! Numerous witnesses heard shots & saw smoke from behind the fence on the Knoll including a gentleman I met in Dallas. He is certain of what he remembers as are many others.
@drguffey Rifles emit very little smoke. There was a stiff wind in Dallas that day with winds clocked at 15 to 25 mph. The presidential limo was driving directly into the wind. Your so-called witness would not have seen smoke and it's likely he wasn't there. All sorts of people have emerged out of the woodwork claiming they saw all sorts of things in Dallas that day and 99% of it is fiction.
@LoneNutter1 Nonsense! The witnesses speak for themselves. When numerous witnesses corroborate each other that's strong evidence. I am currently read Vol 1 of "Inside the Assassination Records Review Board" by Douglas P. Horne. Fascinating stuff !! I recommend it to all. The "Lone Nutters" of the world are dwindling in numbers as more people educate themselves on this subject.
@drguffey Anyone who thinks Oswald shot JFK has to be cognitively impaired -
i.e. fucking stupid. Oswald was set up from beginning to end. Read James Douglass' brilliantly written book " JFK and the Unspeakable.." If you want to understand what happened in Dallas on November 22 1963 you have to know what was going on behind the scenes in Washington. The assassination of JFK
wasn't the result of some 'lone nut'. The assassination was planned from sordid beginning to tragic end by JFK's enemies.
@drguffey You're entitled to your opinion about how many people believe there was a conspiracy vs a single gunman. I'm of the belief that as people begin to use some common sense they change their beliefs about conspiracies and the folly of the conspiracy crowd.
@LoneNutter1 Speaking of folly. Not a single piece of evidence in the case against Oswald holds up to close scrutiny!! Zero, Zip, Nada, Nothing. I'm currently reading Vol 2 of "Inside the Assassination Records, Review Board" by Douglas P. Horne. I highly recommend it to all.
@drguffey I really don't care what book you're reading. If you feel so strongly about the JFK killing and you have evidence that supports your opinion, contact a lawyer and get some legal council about turning over the evidence to the proper authorities. Until you do that, stop wasting our time with your absurd conspiracy fables.
@LoneNutter1 Speaking of an absurd theory how bout this one. A 'lone nut', never known to be a very good shot, takes a piece of junk rifle with a misaligned scope & shoots at a moving target with such devestating accuracy! AND convinces the majority of witnesses that the shots were coming from behind the fence line on the knoll. Talk about NUTS !!!
@drguffey Gee, that's odd! The bullets that struck the president and Connolly came from that rifle to the exclusion of all other rifles. The spent shells were a match to LHO's Carcano. The bullet fragments matched the rounds fired by that Carcano. LHO's prints were on the rifle. He ordered the rifle under a fake name, but his handwriting is a match. "Never to be a very good shot"? Baloney!! he was good enough to be a "marksman" in the Marines! Go do your homework and stop wasting my time!
@LoneNutter1To the exclusion of all other rifles? LOL Have you checked ALL other rifles??!! LOL When were the spent shells whose bullets supposedly hit JFK actually fired?? The bullet fragments matched?? Impossible to match bullet fragments!!! Bullets, yes.Fragments NO! When did LHO's 'prints' suddenly appear on the rifle? Marine Marksman? You need to check out what being a Marine "Marksman" actually means! --> The lowest grade of 'marksmanship'!!!I ---> SHIT. Hooey!! Go do some research!!
@Mobilecheese The exclusion of all other rifles means the ballistics tests on LHO rifle matched CE 399 The markings from the firing pin along with scrapes on the shells match those that came from LHO's rifle. Bullet fragments can be matched by testing the composition of the fragments. Bullet manufactures have different ratios of metallic composition that are indigenous to that brand. The fragments matched the brand and lot of the bullets LHO fired. You need to do your homework not me.
@LoneNutter1 You wrote 'to the exclusion of 'ALL OTHER RIFLES'. It's that sort of sloppy writing that's typical of uninformed amateurs like you. Do you know how many Mannlicher Carcano rifles bearing the SAME serial number as the one allegedly used by Oswald there were in circulation? Matching of the composition of bullet FRAGMENTS cannot determine what RIFLE fired those BULLET FRAGMENTS!! What is this fixation you have with homework? Is this part of a school project or something?
@LoneNutter1 I note you 'neglected' to mention anything about your erroneous Marine marksman comments. Perhaps a little research on exactly what level of proficiency the term Marine 'marksman' implies would not go amiss?
I repeat matching of the composition of bullet FRAGMENTS cannot determine what RIFLE fired those BULLET FRAGMENTS or to be more precise cannot determine what rifle fired the bullets which later fragmented on impact!!!
@LoneNutter1 Your initial statement "The bullets that struck the president and Connolly came from that rifle to the exclusion of ALL OTHER RIFLES.The spent shells were a match to LHO's Carcano." is pure nonsense!! Total nonsense!! Answer these questions 1/ When were Oswald's 'fingerprints' 'discovered' on the rifle? 2/ What does marine 'marksman' actually mean? 3/ How many Mannlicher Carcano rifles bearing the SAME serial number as the one ALLEGEDLY used by Oswald were there in circulation?
@Mobilecheese Good points on the marksman thing, Mobile.There are three classifications of shooters in the military and therefore in the Marines. The highest is expert with a score of 220 out of 250 at each of 5 distances- combinations. Next comes sharpshooter with between 210-219 out of 250 at each of 5 distances-combinations. The third is marksman with between 190-209 out of 250 at each of 5 distances-combinations. So Oswald was a marksman but NOT in the military sense.
@LoneNutter1 You're mixed up.The 'to the exclusion of all other rifles' refers to the so-called magic bullet found on the stretcher. Weird how the MB was conveniently found to 'prove' that the Mannlicher Carcano was the rifle that was used in the assassination.Fishy if you ask me. Since they couldn't match the bullet fragments with the Mannlicher Carcano wasn't it nice of someone to leave a magic bullet lying around? Of course you have to ask when exactly the magic bullet was fired. Don't you?
@jfiIes0000000 I'm not mixed up at all. What do you think a ballistics test is for? How do you think they match bullets to the weapons they are fired from? Your take on what happened is overly complex and far fetched. Plus, your take is a weak guess at best. Mine is substantiated by hard evidence. So if you want to believe there was some vast conspiracy involving hundreds of different people a and scores of different groups hat has JFK killed, go ahead and believe it.
@LoneNutter1 Of course you're mixed up. LOL You confuse bullets with bullet fragments and you use your 'to the exclusion of all other rifles' out of context when it refers to the dubious magic bullet. You don't even know what a marksman means in military terms. You're an arrogant dabbler and amateur out of his depth in these matters.You have nothing substantial to offer on anything as your previous comments to other posters show clearly.Go ahead! Believe your simplistic nonsense!! LOL
@jfiIes0000000 I've been saying the same thing to CT'ers for yours: believe whatever you want. So I'l say it to you too; believe whatever you want. I don't have to produce anything. All the evidence is there that convicts LHO. Case closed. End of discussion. Everything else that's conspiracy related is vapor, mist, an illusion made real only in the minds of the conspiracy kooks.
@LoneNutter1 For yours?? What's for yours mean? You're a wind-bag and a poor one at that! You make the most outrageous statements about bullets and bullet fragments and your laughable "to the exclusion of all other rifles" misquote and now you say there was a 25 miles per hour wind blowing in Dallas on Nov 22 1963!! Are you for real??!! "Everything else that's conspiracy related is vapor, mist, an illusion".... and you're full of shit!!
@LoneNutter1 NOT to the exclusion of all others! Jim Marrs book "Crossfire" explains this. No blood or debris on fragments or CE-399 !! LHO's prints were NOT on the Carcano until AFTER he died!!! His "marksman" score was the LOWEST possible!!! Experts could NOT match LHO's feat. BTW you accept the 'official' version DESPITE the fact there were NO chain of possession receipts for evidence, NO crossexamination of witnesses by an attorney for LHO, NO due process of law. Shameful !!
@LoneNutter1 Then why do you take a position so thoroughly disputed??? You say below "all the evidenced convicts LHO". IT DOES NOT !!! There isn't a single piece of evidence that isn't suspect, that was properly handled or presented. The feds had NO case at all they could properly take to court!!!
@ 7.42 which is the back wound? It would seem the smaller hole below is the bullet wound. In Robert Grodens case for conspiracy, he states that the lower wound is more consistant with a bullet wound, a close up of that smaller wound reveals it has an abrasion ring.
@ 9.30 Didn't JFK have a hunch back that had him bent over, he wore a back brace and then there is the gradient of the road being downward as it moved away from the TSBD.
@v35tan27 None of the doctors to inspect the photos have identified the lower blood speck as a bullet entrance. Groden is clearly incorrect about this, IMO. The abrasion ring re-produced in close-up in the HSCA report comes from the upper/larger mark on the back wound photo, not the lower. From what I can gather Groden grew suspicious about the lower wound because it was not portrayed in the drawing of the photo published in the report. But he was wrong.
@LoneNutter1 There was NO stiff wind in Dallas on November 22nd 1963
and there was certainly NO '15 to 25 mph(!!) winds blowing. Where do you get this ridiculous claptrap from??!! Are you making it up as you go along!! You write "all sorts of people have emerged out of the woodwork.." Yes! And you are one of them!! I suppose you'll be telling us next there was a hurricane blowing in Dallas on 22nd November 1963!! 25 mph wInds!! Muhahahahaha LMFAO
@jfiIes0000000 CORRECTION! For " and there was certainly NO '15 to 25 mph(!!) winds blowing." Read "and there WERE certainly NO '15 to 25 mph(!!) winds blowing."
@LoneNutter1 I not only dispute I REFUTE your insane claims on the weather and in particular on the wind speed in Dealey Plaza on 22nd Nov 1963. The wind speed in in Dealey Plaza on 22 Nov 1963 was 13 knots ( 13 Knots = 14.960132824306053 Miles per Hour). Your crazy statement that the wind speed was 25 mph is just that - CRAZY. A wind of 25 mph causes
large branches to move; telephone wires to whistle; men's pants to flap wildly; hats to blow off; use of umbrellas difficult if not impossible.
@jfiIes0000000 Good point about the wind speed being 13 knots in Dealey Plaza on November 22 1963. Don Roberdeau gives details about the weather and wind speed on his website. Very interesting stuff! Also very interesting was LonNutter1's 'reaction' to this hard fact! LOL He starts on about conspiracy theorists and ignores your 13 knots fact! Typical reaction from these LoneNutter1 type JFK freaks. Hit them hard facts and they freeze like rabbits caught in the headlights on a dark night! LOL
@LoneNutter1 And as for Gary Mack I wouldn't take shit up with that charlatan.
If I happened to meet Gary Mack in Dealey Plaza and he said "good morning" I would assume immediately and correctly that he was lying. Gary Mack??!! LOL Since when has anyone ever believed anything that fraud says??!! LOL
@jfiIes0000000 You're displaying a typical CT'er trait: when encountering someone who doesn't subscribe to the "conspiracy", insult and dismiss them. That's mature of you.
@naIterdeeds The only point you're making by the use of profanity it to show us your inability to form and communicate a rational idea. Keep up the good work.
@LoneNutter1 Aawwww.... The little cuntripper LoneNutter1 is annoyed by a few bad words. Why don't you get a fucking life and stop fucking pestering people in here with your fucking lies, shit and inaccuracies about the JFK assassination? You're a fucking moaning ass ripping cocksucking fucking asshole!!
@LoneNutter1 But you are an asshole! I know you're an asshole and YOU know you're an asshole so let's be mature and RATIONAL and acknowledge the FACT!
Even jfiles000000 knows you're an asshole!! So, let's be mature and rational, here!!
@LoneNutter1 And you're full of shit! I notice you've stopped posting any more of your crap and nonsense about the JFK assassination. I suppose that's something to be grateful for. LOL No more of your bullet fragments baloney and wind speeds of 25 mph bullshit! LOL Why don't you tell me to get lost like you told @thesecondcaller? Very mature and rational of you!! You fucking hypocrite and fantasist!! You fucking loser!
@jfiIes0000000 Alright then. Get Lost! You have nothing valuable to add to the dialogue. You're wrong about the bullet fragments, you're wrong about the wind gusts in Dealey Plaza. You're fixated on my postings and you swim in a cesspool of profanity and expect me to jump in with you and splash around. That's not going to happen so make plans to have a playdate all by yourself. Go bother someone else who finds your comments insightful.
@LoneNutter1 Oh!! Are you stalking me?Asshole! I'm right about the bullet fragments.I'm right about the wind speed in Dealey Plaza. I'm also right about YOU! You're a fucking degenerate fucked in the ass, ear and mouth cocksucker, fantasist and time waster!! I am not fixated with your inane bullshit postings BUT I would gladly fucking transfix you to a fucking wall and blow your fucking head off!! You're so fucking stupid you don't know the difference between
@jfiIes0000000 A posting with threats of violence and an obvious lack of self control with an avalanche of profanity and perversions. Your credibility is off the charts.
@LoneNutter1 LOL You don't even know what the word 'profanity' means!! LOL
Profanity is the use of words like God, damn, hell, etc., etc. I don't use profanity!
I use obscenity!! Fuck you!! MY credibility?? What about YOUR credibility?? You NEVER had any!!! Now tell me to be mature and engage in rational debate or to get lost. You are SO mature!!! You're as mature as a rotten, stinking, old bunch of soggy bananas! LOL How come you don't write about JFK anymore? LOL
@jfiIes0000000 I'll write about JFK again. But in the meantime I'll marvel at your postings and think that it's not possible for someone to reach a new low at posting maniacal rants that make so sense whatsoever. But somehow you manage to plunge to depths that are foreign to most people.
@LoneNutter1 Thank you for your kind remarks on how my posts have impressed you & on how you "marvel" at them. It would seem that you are easily impressed. However, I was sorry to read that you have "issues" writing and understanding English. I hope my posts in their own way will help you improve your English language comprehension skills. In the meantime I look forward to reading more of your "groundbreaking" and "innovative" "insights" into JFK research. You really blow me away sometimes!
@LoneNutter1 Just a small point. Some clarification would be useful. Were you being rational, mature and logical when you wrote @thesecondcaller "When you're ready to engage in an intelligent conversation about the assassination come back and visit. Until then, get lost." Do you feel this comment of yours complies with your 'rational','mature' and 'logical' rules? Could you also clarify if and when we can expect YOU to 'engage in an intelligent conversation' ?
@LoneNutter1 I'm so sorry for being an asshole.My real name is VinnyVoom444 and I never believe anything the goverment tells me.My ancestors came over from Rome in the early 20th century to escape this form of goverment it's call facism.In Solidarity confinement VinnyVoom444.
@jfiles000000 wrote: "Anyways I could babble on about fascism,The WC Report was the type of people on the Warren Commission were the kind of people my ancestors leaving and now I have the burden of knowing.Good God.In solidarity Confinement VinnyVoom444" Don't you be afraid to 'babble on' about anything. Some of your insights are truly revelatory and show a deep understanding of the world and all that's in it....so to speak. A few months in solitary can do that for some people. So 'babble on' !!
@LoneNutter1 Actually I just lied again. VinnyVoom is my Kryptonite. My REAL names are also LittleVinnyCock and BrokenRecord14. I'm a registered pedophile, a scum fuck racist pig, and I pretend to live in the 19th Century where an inbred hillbilly asshole like me has a chance of being somebody. I spend my time here sucking up to fellow racist lying piece of shit Tom cddickhead Lowry, and trolling for prepubescent girls.
@LoneNutter1 Well my ancestors came over from Rome in the early 20th century to escape the kind of people like the people on the Warren Commission.Now I'm left with the burden of going throught this evil form of Goverment called facism.Good God.Someone help me!In solidarity confinement VinnyVoom444
@jfiIes0000000 Food takes like a rubber no NOT a rubber rubber.I get as much cock as I want in prison I was having so much fun THEY moved me into Solitare confinement so THEY would not have to staple my asshole back up.In solidarity Confinement VinnyVoom444
@LoneNutter1 The reason I believe the Warren report is not true is because they refused to cheack other leads and did not follow up. The murder of a president ( or anyone else) is too important to close off to other possibilities. Why wans't the Mauser checked for ballistics? Was gun powder residue found near the so-called "sniper's nest? These are just a couple of ?s that I have. I do believe LHO was framed. They swept the assassination under the rug.
OMG!! There's a huge nest of "knoll-trolls" here who don't wish to be confused with the facts. They're connecting dots in the most bazaar manner. I think I'll watch the video and get a good laugh!
20 shots were fired. theres 100% irrefutable evidence proving each and every one without a shadow of a doubt ever and if you do youre a non-thinking puppet of the Man.
At least two shots missed. The Tague shot and the one which hit near the manhole cover as seen on page 70 of "The Killing of a President" by Groden. There is also the damage to the windshield & windshield frame! Separate shots? Many witnesses heard MORE than three shots!
Greer fired fatal shot; its so fucking obvious its stupid. Everyone watches with their eyes on Head of JFK, instead of WHO in the CAR shot him...Zapruder Film original..its just in plain view..two things have to happen for a President to be MURDERED: (1) Knowledge by the "Secret Service"(the Stand Down of the S.S. on the Motorcade makes the S.S. complicit); Greer shooting him at point blank range is known in the investigative world as a clue;(2) knowledge of the act by incoming new President LBJ
What is obvious is A. Greer does NOT have a gun in his left hand. B. His left hand is just inches from the steering wheel. C. He never points his left hand at JFK. "Greer fired fatal shot"? Virtually impossible !!! Obviously !!!
That video has been analyzed and while it certainly looks exactly like you say, what you are seeing is actually a sheen that is coming from the top of the head of the front seat passenger next to greer. I thought it was greer too, but look at the footage again with this in mind. It might change your mind. According to other sources, there were 4 or 5 shooters, so he was a dead man, regardless. The standing down of the SS is a crime, which has never been prosecuted.
Greer didn't shoot the president! The car shot him!! This limo was the prototype to the Knight Rider car on the television show. Except this one went a little funny in the head and started bumping off folks in politics. Just a minor glitch. Nobody said advancements in technology was perfectly safe.
Once a bullet hits a boney area (like JFK's lower neck) it NeVeR travels as straight a string as all of the reinactments portray. The back wound could have hit a bone/rib/vertebra, deflected upward and exited out the front of his throat. However, if this occurred it likely did not hit Connelly. The gov't needs to present all recorded testimony and physical evidence to a new hi-tech generation to draw reasonable conclusions.
BULLETS DO NOT TRAVEL STRAIGHT AFTER THEY HIT BONE!!
a) Notice official inquiree : Jim Braden was "questioned", not "arrested",
"investigated" or even "detained" by police officials .
b) They covered their bases, established he wasn't involved & sent him on his merry way. Where do u get he was involved ? Just because a ex-con like Bob Harris said so ?
He later changed his story ..not in the building ..in the plaza.... parole officer. His PO denied his alibi.
Citations , these are all made up bullshit by Robert Harris . None of this bullshit happened , he was perpetrating another hoax and that's why wikipedia states :
"This page has been deleted" ....They couldn't find any credible references to back what RH had to say .
Harris AAMOF stole his information from one of just 1000's of hoax novels on the assassn. :
Contract on America: The Mafia Murders of John and Robert Kennedy by Scheim, David E. Argyle Press, 1983
Review : "If this isn't the truth it sure is the most convincing lie I have ever heard or read".
You can say that again , how you can connect LHO wanting to go to Cuba w/ Sirhan wanting to go back to his homeland in Palestine by one 'Big Whopper' after another is illustrated in this book .
Dr Wecht asked his colleagues on the HSCA med board to show ONE instance of a bullet having done what CE-399 did & come out pristine! He also asked them to show him ONE instance of an EXIT wound like the 3-5mm indented wound seen on JFK's throat! This wound describe as an entrance wound by every doctor & nurse who saw it in Dallas. As yet none has done so. Even Michael Baden a WC apologist can't show a single instance of an Exit that looks like an entrance wound !!!
From the same text book "the Lincoln assasination" is portrayed as a conspiracy , which in it's larger aspect it was (They intended to kill the 1st 3 in line of succession to the pres.)
The killing of Lincoln however was carried out stricly 'Lone Nut' style w/Booth acting on his own both in it's implimentation and initial escape .
"Dr. Dolce did his long suppressed testing for the WC"
a) The WR showed examples of bullets that hit bones and were deformed which proves they did the wrong test . The WC members never told th proving grounds weapons engineers that the bullet had already gone through JFK first and thusly had slowed . Dr. Marvin Fackler did do tests w/downloaded bullets and his came out juct like CE-399 !
Dale Meyers incredibly accurate 3d computer simulation aligns the SBT perfectly .
They can create a 3d simulation, but no similar bullet. They have had almost 50 years, are they still trying? LMAO.
Think about it, the world has changed so much that they now have the technology to create a 3D simulation but they still have not produced a similar bullet.
"incredibly accurate" - who says it is accurate, you?
In the 1960 election, JFK concealed his Addison's disease and even stated flatly to the press "I have never had Addison's disease." That was a lie, of course. LBJ said Kennedy looked like "a spavined hunchback."
Myers' video has been discredited as a fraud. Harris has exposed it for the nonsense that it is. Myers manipulates the positions and almost places Connally in JFK's lap to make the magic bullet theory work.
It is considered fantasy by most people yet the LN's hang on to it for dear life like shipwreck survivors clinging to any wreckage they can find.
It's quite sad when the lone-nutters need to cling to fabricated evidence. Their case crumbles around them and they cling to the fabricated evidence instead of accepting the truth.
The secret is out, everyone knows there was a conspiracy. Your nonsensical objections while clinging to fake discredited evidence makes you seem pathetic.
Then I realized, you cannot think for yourself. You blindly believe the government's lies without question. You are like one of those fanatical terrorists.
I used to have similar beliefs until I realized that TMWKK was funded by The History Channel controlled by A&E NetWorks which in turn is owned by mass media giants ABC , CBS & NBC .
So much for mass media controlling the thoughts of this countrys mobocracy that doesn't want to think anyway .
And you'll find all the conspiracy's & co-conspiracists of ur JFK dreams . Next best visit one of those criminal JFK assassin. conventions.
Want proof ? : Unlike reputable historians , when you look inside any conspiracy book for 'aknowledgements' , 'credits' , 'resource' pages that explain where they started their research from , who proof read & made suggestions for improvements etc..it's totally nonexistent ! Sure fire sign that it's a creation "out of his mind" & a JFK hoax.
On the contrary, the people of america are thinking and they are questioning their Government. The truth will eventually come out and the conspiracy will be revealed.
The only thing that is important is that only two bullets struck both men causing all nine wounds .
1) SBT (7 wounds) @ Z-224 +-
2) Fatal shot (2 wounds) @ Z-313
Most scholars agree now after sophisticated computer enhancement that a missed shot happened on the 1st shot @ Z-160 . Rosemary Willis stops running & looks back at the TSBD , JFK drops his hand , JBC makes a sharp head turn from left to right .
A detailed analysis by Bob Harris shows the bullet that hit JFK and Connally came from the 3rd floor of the Daltex Building. A bullet from the TSBD would have had too steep and too side angled a trajectory to cause all the wounds in both men without being a "magic" bullet.
An overhead look at the Plaza shows the Daltex building as the most logical position for a shot from behind.
The only professional criminal interviewed in the plaza or surrounding buildings that day was Jim Braden. He was interviewed by a police officer on the 3rd floor of the Daltex building. He later changed his story to say he was not in the building but in the plaza. He later changed it again to say he was with his parole officer. His PO denied his alibi.
In order for him to have been telling the truth his parole officer and a police officer were wrong. Guess who the WC believed, LMAO!!!
a duck hunt view on u tube "some facts have always been there
they new 10mins after the shooting they had 2 diffrent rifles alone in the book depository shell casings of a italian carbine & a german made mauser rifle
that cant fire that bullet
the bastards knew all akong they was makin the evidence FIT the story
spector should be booted out of office the slime ball bastard along with bush they should be tried for TRESON then JFK may RIP
He said the 2nd and 3rd shots were closer together than the first and second .
Doesn't mean LHO was firing a machine gun , just means there's going to be a varition in ppl's opinions , especially between those that heard it w/echo's below & those who heard it up close .
Single Bullet theorists become more and more desperate. More than 80% of the US population does not believe it anymore. There's so much evidence of the Warren COmmission being corrupted, unprofessional, and having neglected witnesses statements, that you can draw only one conclusion: the Single Bullet people can't change their story, because they'd need to change their way of consuming what they're told to do and believe. It's frightning. It's fear that makes the world so ugly.
Just how would you propose LHO smuggling out a bulky 6.5mm MC Rifle when the motorcade was the most if not the most heavily protected in history with an additional 500 police , SS , plain cloths detectives , County Sheriff's in backup along the parade route , moving in union with the motorcade in the background , some apparent and other mingling with the crowd ? How do the wounds suggest when that bullet is designed 2 stay intact unless it hits a dense bone like it did when it hit JFK's head ?
The truth is known to a 98% certainty , the Single Bullet Fact is a ballistic and physics certainty BUT NO ONE WANTS TO BELIEVE THE TRUTH THAT LHO DEMISED CAMELTWAT IN 8.9 SECOND'S OF HIS ONE HOUR LUNCH BREAK ! THAT'S THE REAL PROBLEM HERE ! WELL BOO WHOO TO YOU TOO ! IT ISN'T A LIE , THE LIARS ARE CONSPIRACISTS THAT MILK THE PUBLIC SO THEY WON'T HAVE TO WORK FOR A LIVING ! Live w/it . It's USG offi'cia'l history
taught in all schools at this very moment & CONSPIRACY THEORY ISN'T ! .
the magic bullett came from the daltex building,,,,but you wouldnt know about this or who eugene hale brading was .....you also never reponded to me on the othre site, cddd, how the sound of the shots reported by many including dignitaries and police and ss went like this: Bang...........................Bang Bang..quite a feat for the carcano rifle............
Frazier his co-worker reported that day that he brought a long package into work that day .
But I supose in your rush to exonerate a police and presidential assassin that you'll forgive him and ascribe the package as "curtain rods" when he in fact already had "curtain rods" in his room at his rooming house .
As far as Oswald would have known, the presidental limo wouldn't have gone past the Texas book depository that day, since the route was changed only in the last minute. Offical knowledge was that it was not going to pass where Oswald was, so why bring i rifle? Just in case? Doesn't make sense.
My point is, that if you have 7 wounds, you try to figure out what caused them and how it was done. Doing that, you start with each wound by itself. That would take down the actual bullets from 7 (or 8 if you incl. headshot) to 4 (or 5).
From there comparing angles and so forth, and it's here the angles doesn't match.
Still, most wounds are penetration wounds suggesting a FMJ, while the headwound seem to be a JHP, that alone suggest another shooter.
For your statement is to have any meaning you've got to answer the following question
How "obvious" is it when a bullet transverses two men , one who is a president , and when has this happened before and been subjected to such scrutiny ?
The fact of the matter is that this phenom was not in wounds ballistics before and HAD to have a theory that first prognosicates it .
SOP for the scientific method of determining fact .
The Single Bullet Theory is about manipulating and suppressing facts to "support" a theory which was necessary to support the preordained Warren Commission conclusion: LHO acted alone and unaided. The second and third shots were closer together--that makes no sense--the first and second should have been closer as LHO or whoever had the weapon ready to fire the first shot already; so the first and second should have been closer.
This is the fake video of the murder of Kennedy , Kennedy got shot by the driver not by a rifle man
TheJosan14 4 weeks ago
some of you are some really dumb motherfuckers
bigfolkie5418 3 months ago
To arthur 1046, i wouldn't trust vincent bugliosi as far as i could throw him. Oswald was at best a poor shooter. And why did no one see him come down the steps to the place where he said he went for a coke. Two female workers walking down the stairways, never saw him, at around the time of the shooting. This was a black ops mission, probably by guys from the Operaton 40 teams. The zapruder film clearly shows the fatal head shot, came from the front. Don't forget, Oswald was a bad shooter
1450famtreesearch 8 months ago
So anybody else notice there are two bullet holes on Kennedy's back. Look about a 1/2 inch from the ruler. Directly across from the fingers. This wound was measured to be 6.5mm. Same as a Mannlicher Carcano the Oswald rifle. The upper wound measures 7.5 mm. However even discounting the difference in wound sizes. You are still left with two wounds and not one. Now we have 4 shots not 3. John Connelly maintained until the day he died. That he was shot after JFK was hit in the throat.
2ndRCHAret 9 months ago
jfk had his right abducted, forward elevated and internally rotated with his elbow/forearm resting on the side of he car. he also had slouched posture.
there are better inconsistancies in the assassination to chase down than this one
RedStateRoy 1 year ago
Arlen Spector should spend the rest of his worthless life in jail
nicenonya3 1 year ago
@uranorexic So your "evidence" is the lies of mcadams or myers or some other known CIA ass wiper? I saw several pictures of Oswald's chin. The chin on the mystery CIA affiliate guy has a heavy squared off chin. Oswald has the rounded chin. No match. it was an obviously poor attempt at cut-paste.
And did you read what 10Faenor wrote below? Hoover lied about everything. All of the evidence against Oswald is invented & phony. I saw the Hoover videos. He was a controlled fag; like you.
arther1046 1 year ago
Gay Edgar Hoover was a queer.
Videos: 9fqMA9YV3ks and 3N3Vg5l-ITU
On video 9fqMA9YV3ks he is sitting with his crime friends and certainly wearing a female’s hair bun and earrings, at 2:40 - 2:50. The CIA had picturess of this perv with young men & boys. He was involved in felony insider stock manipulation and other crimes. The CIA & mafia owned this piece of shit.
This lying felon fag supplied the phony documents to frame Oswald & cover up the Kennedy assassination.
10Faenor 1 year ago
@uranorexic Give the URL video code for cops saying they mistook the carcano for the mauser. The carcano has MADE ITALY stamped on it.
Try to prove Oswald had a rifle shipped to him. Try to prove fiber were on a rifle. You have only the fed liars words for that. Just lying ink spot on official letterhead.
"Hoover lied his eyes out to the Commission - on Oswald, on Ruby, on their friends, the bullets, the gun, you name it". --- Hale Boggs (D), House Majority Leader (1962 -71), Member of the WC.
arther1046 1 year ago
@uranorexic Name those "independent" sources. Name just one. You can't do it. They do not exist. Of course, I anything you say must be verified. Give URL, or video, or web page. Of course, you cannot cite CIA lying ass wipes like mcadams or myers. That won't do at all.
Now, hurry and wipe the shit stain off of your moms rented dildo before she come home from work.
arther1046 1 year ago
@uranorexic The question was answered correctly. The feds simply made up lies & evidence on letterhead paper. No bullets from any limo could be matched to a rifle that was only used as a prop to nail a pasty. The word was already out about the 7.65 Mauser rifle "found" in the TSBD. It was later changed to an Italian 6.5mm rifle. Problem? ALL imported 6.5mm Italian rifles imports have "MADE ITALY" stamped on their stock. Impossible not to see by 3 DPD cops at the same time in broad daylight.
arther1046 1 year ago
@uranorexic How do you explain the fact that no bullets were matched to a gun that Oswald did not shoot?
But, I did read on an official looking letterhead that your mom was sucking every passing strangers dick in Cleveland on Dec 26th,1964. I am a public official, and wear a badge, and type whatever I want on official letterhead paper, so therefore you must believe anything I say.
arther1046 1 year ago
Anyone who uses the word 'naughty' on Youtube has to be too nice to be on YouTube.
UlfkfvkritvGaluh 1 year ago
It's good to see see that LoneNutter1 has stopped using profanity in his posts!
You have to admire his honesty telling everyone about his low esteem and lack of basic English and inability to communicate!! Well done, LoneNutter1!!
usuIkane 1 year ago
@usuIkane I think you'll find there was (1) posting where I used a naughty word. As for my low esteem, lack of basic English and inability to communicate, well, I'd reply but I can't stop laughing.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 So typically modest and sweet of you.
I know you don't want to talk about it. Btw what was the naughty word?
usuIkane 1 year ago
@usuIkane I already said it one time too many so I'm not about to repeat it. You'll just have to scroll around to find it. Sorry.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 Oh. So it must have been pretty bad. I understand your reluctance to say anything. You will just have to live with it on your conscience. Have you considered psychoanalysis? If you feel you need to talk about it I can recommend a therapist who works with sick people like you who have written obscene and offensive words on YouTube. His name is Larry Goldstein. He's good and doesn't charge a fortune to straighten you up - mentally.
Do you want me to send you his website address?
usuIkane 1 year ago
@usuIkane Am I fucking imagining this? Have I stumbled into the fucking Twilight Zone? What are you? Some kind of fucking born again fucking naughty word freak? Psychoanalysis??!! Who the fuck are you and who the fuck is Larry Goldstein?
Get the fuck outa here!!
jfiIes0000000 1 year ago
@usuIkane No thank you.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 Are you sure? There is no need to be embarrassed. I can arrange electric shock treatment as well ( to stop that embarrassing LOLing thing you do to your computer. I also stops the NWS - Naughty Word Syndrome). The EST is free although it may entail house visits and you will have to provide the electricity from your own domestic mains supply.
usuIkane 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 LoneNutter1 commented on Never before seen Video of WTC 9/11 attack "@ChrisThomsen1976 You're so full of crap! You're clueless about what happend that day and you know nothing about the logistics of getting fighter aircraft aloft!"
So mature! So rational! So reasoned! ....So full of crap!! LOL
jfiIes0000000 1 year ago
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watch the reaction from the lady and man infront of jfk and his wife they guarded they're faces the woman shielded her face with the right side of her face and the man look at the driver and then duck behind the seat in fear of being shot....look closely and you will see fear greer killed kennedy (his brains and blood splatter backwards)
thadynastyrecords 1 year ago
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Oswald INNOCENT YESTERDAY!!
Oswald INNOCENT TODAY!!
Oswald INNOCENT TOMORROW!!
Mobilecheese 1 year ago
@Mobilecheese How does a guy from Northern Ireland with a french flag on his channel cover know weather ozzie is innocent?
jfiles000000 1 year ago
Oswald INNOCENT YESTERDAY!!
Oswald INNOCENT TODAY!!
Oswald INNOCENT TOMORROW!!
Mobilecheese 1 year ago 2
the musical accompaniment is very annoying
saturn2xy 1 year ago
Well here is a classic cross-section of J-Tards , Kook-Tarts , Blow-Farts .... All Kook Loving CTer's w/out a clue. !
One asshole blowing wind otta his rear end is sucked up by his butt loving buddy bringing up the rear .
'Greer fired fatal shot' .... '20 shots were fired' .... 'smoke from behind the fence'
All debunked years ago . CT disinfo. tactic # 12
'Recycle discredited evidence repeatedly , over and over and over and over again again again and again !
cdddraftsman 1 year ago
New sound technology proves 3 rifles firing from different locations, second floor not sixth clearing Ozwald and HW BUSH was there making sure he was dead
thesecondcaller 1 year ago
Balderdash. Bunk. Baloney.
autoad 1 year ago
@autoad Don't forget Hooey!!
Mobilecheese 1 year ago
@Mobilecheese By the way wasn't JFK the only Irish president America ever had?I think he was.
jfiles000000 1 year ago
@jfiles000000 No. JFK was the only Irish catholic president America has ever had.
A lot of American presidents were of Irish descent but they were Presbyterians.
No harm in that.......
Mobilecheese 1 year ago
@Mobilecheese But aren't the real Irish the Roman Catholics that emigrated to ameraca in the 1850's because of the Irish potato famine?
jfiles000000 1 year ago
Kennedy Family Members Not fooled Either ! :
* 'The Death of a President' is the only book I would ever read about my fathers assassination"
John F. Kennedy, Jr.
* "I stand by the Warren Commission Report"
Senator Robert F. Kennedy
* "I'm fundamentally satisfied with the findings of the Warren Commission Report"
Senator Edward M. Kennedy
* "Con spiracy in the death of JFK is now considered a 'Political Abstraction'..."
cd
cdddraftsman 1 year ago
@thesecondcaller What a load of bunk. No such recordings exist. When you're ready to engage in an intelligent conversation about the assassination come back and visit. Until then, get lost.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 Hey!! Be polite!! You prattle on about 'intelligent conversation' and you tell people to 'get lost'!! This is totally unacceptable behavior!!!!
Your comments will now be monitored for any future infringements!
jfiIes0000000 1 year ago
It's the Lone Nut theorist who ignore the facts! Numerous witnesses heard shots & saw smoke from behind the fence on the Knoll including a gentleman I met in Dallas. He is certain of what he remembers as are many others.
drguffey 1 year ago
@drguffey Rifles emit very little smoke. There was a stiff wind in Dallas that day with winds clocked at 15 to 25 mph. The presidential limo was driving directly into the wind. Your so-called witness would not have seen smoke and it's likely he wasn't there. All sorts of people have emerged out of the woodwork claiming they saw all sorts of things in Dallas that day and 99% of it is fiction.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 Nonsense! The witnesses speak for themselves. When numerous witnesses corroborate each other that's strong evidence. I am currently read Vol 1 of "Inside the Assassination Records Review Board" by Douglas P. Horne. Fascinating stuff !! I recommend it to all. The "Lone Nutters" of the world are dwindling in numbers as more people educate themselves on this subject.
drguffey 1 year ago
@drguffey Anyone who thinks Oswald shot JFK has to be cognitively impaired -
i.e. fucking stupid. Oswald was set up from beginning to end. Read James Douglass' brilliantly written book " JFK and the Unspeakable.." If you want to understand what happened in Dallas on November 22 1963 you have to know what was going on behind the scenes in Washington. The assassination of JFK
wasn't the result of some 'lone nut'. The assassination was planned from sordid beginning to tragic end by JFK's enemies.
Mobilecheese 1 year ago
@Mobilecheese Oswald didn't do it.
TheAmbassador11 1 year ago
@drguffey You're entitled to your opinion about how many people believe there was a conspiracy vs a single gunman. I'm of the belief that as people begin to use some common sense they change their beliefs about conspiracies and the folly of the conspiracy crowd.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 Speaking of folly. Not a single piece of evidence in the case against Oswald holds up to close scrutiny!! Zero, Zip, Nada, Nothing. I'm currently reading Vol 2 of "Inside the Assassination Records, Review Board" by Douglas P. Horne. I highly recommend it to all.
drguffey 1 year ago
@drguffey I really don't care what book you're reading. If you feel so strongly about the JFK killing and you have evidence that supports your opinion, contact a lawyer and get some legal council about turning over the evidence to the proper authorities. Until you do that, stop wasting our time with your absurd conspiracy fables.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 Speaking of an absurd theory how bout this one. A 'lone nut', never known to be a very good shot, takes a piece of junk rifle with a misaligned scope & shoots at a moving target with such devestating accuracy! AND convinces the majority of witnesses that the shots were coming from behind the fence line on the knoll. Talk about NUTS !!!
drguffey 1 year ago
@drguffey Gee, that's odd! The bullets that struck the president and Connolly came from that rifle to the exclusion of all other rifles. The spent shells were a match to LHO's Carcano. The bullet fragments matched the rounds fired by that Carcano. LHO's prints were on the rifle. He ordered the rifle under a fake name, but his handwriting is a match. "Never to be a very good shot"? Baloney!! he was good enough to be a "marksman" in the Marines! Go do your homework and stop wasting my time!
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1To the exclusion of all other rifles? LOL Have you checked ALL other rifles??!! LOL When were the spent shells whose bullets supposedly hit JFK actually fired?? The bullet fragments matched?? Impossible to match bullet fragments!!! Bullets, yes.Fragments NO! When did LHO's 'prints' suddenly appear on the rifle? Marine Marksman? You need to check out what being a Marine "Marksman" actually means! --> The lowest grade of 'marksmanship'!!!I ---> SHIT. Hooey!! Go do some research!!
Mobilecheese 1 year ago
@Mobilecheese The exclusion of all other rifles means the ballistics tests on LHO rifle matched CE 399 The markings from the firing pin along with scrapes on the shells match those that came from LHO's rifle. Bullet fragments can be matched by testing the composition of the fragments. Bullet manufactures have different ratios of metallic composition that are indigenous to that brand. The fragments matched the brand and lot of the bullets LHO fired. You need to do your homework not me.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 I don't believe that CE399 ever struck anything or anyone. I understand that the bullet didn't have any blood on it when found.
TheAmbassador11 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 You wrote 'to the exclusion of 'ALL OTHER RIFLES'. It's that sort of sloppy writing that's typical of uninformed amateurs like you. Do you know how many Mannlicher Carcano rifles bearing the SAME serial number as the one allegedly used by Oswald there were in circulation? Matching of the composition of bullet FRAGMENTS cannot determine what RIFLE fired those BULLET FRAGMENTS!! What is this fixation you have with homework? Is this part of a school project or something?
Mobilecheese 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 I note you 'neglected' to mention anything about your erroneous Marine marksman comments. Perhaps a little research on exactly what level of proficiency the term Marine 'marksman' implies would not go amiss?
I repeat matching of the composition of bullet FRAGMENTS cannot determine what RIFLE fired those BULLET FRAGMENTS or to be more precise cannot determine what rifle fired the bullets which later fragmented on impact!!!
Mobilecheese 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 Your initial statement "The bullets that struck the president and Connolly came from that rifle to the exclusion of ALL OTHER RIFLES.The spent shells were a match to LHO's Carcano." is pure nonsense!! Total nonsense!! Answer these questions 1/ When were Oswald's 'fingerprints' 'discovered' on the rifle? 2/ What does marine 'marksman' actually mean? 3/ How many Mannlicher Carcano rifles bearing the SAME serial number as the one ALLEGEDLY used by Oswald were there in circulation?
Mobilecheese 1 year ago
@Mobilecheese Good points on the marksman thing, Mobile.There are three classifications of shooters in the military and therefore in the Marines. The highest is expert with a score of 220 out of 250 at each of 5 distances- combinations. Next comes sharpshooter with between 210-219 out of 250 at each of 5 distances-combinations. The third is marksman with between 190-209 out of 250 at each of 5 distances-combinations. So Oswald was a marksman but NOT in the military sense.
jfiIes0000000 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 You're mixed up.The 'to the exclusion of all other rifles' refers to the so-called magic bullet found on the stretcher. Weird how the MB was conveniently found to 'prove' that the Mannlicher Carcano was the rifle that was used in the assassination.Fishy if you ask me. Since they couldn't match the bullet fragments with the Mannlicher Carcano wasn't it nice of someone to leave a magic bullet lying around? Of course you have to ask when exactly the magic bullet was fired. Don't you?
jfiIes0000000 1 year ago
@jfiIes0000000 And who fired it? NOT Oswald - That's for sure.
jfiIes0000000 1 year ago
@jfiIes0000000 I'm not mixed up at all. What do you think a ballistics test is for? How do you think they match bullets to the weapons they are fired from? Your take on what happened is overly complex and far fetched. Plus, your take is a weak guess at best. Mine is substantiated by hard evidence. So if you want to believe there was some vast conspiracy involving hundreds of different people a and scores of different groups hat has JFK killed, go ahead and believe it.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 Of course you're mixed up. LOL You confuse bullets with bullet fragments and you use your 'to the exclusion of all other rifles' out of context when it refers to the dubious magic bullet. You don't even know what a marksman means in military terms. You're an arrogant dabbler and amateur out of his depth in these matters.You have nothing substantial to offer on anything as your previous comments to other posters show clearly.Go ahead! Believe your simplistic nonsense!! LOL
jfiIes0000000 1 year ago
@jfiIes0000000 I've been saying the same thing to CT'ers for yours: believe whatever you want. So I'l say it to you too; believe whatever you want. I don't have to produce anything. All the evidence is there that convicts LHO. Case closed. End of discussion. Everything else that's conspiracy related is vapor, mist, an illusion made real only in the minds of the conspiracy kooks.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
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@LoneNutter1 For yours?? What's for yours mean? You're a wind-bag and a poor one at that! You make the most outrageous statements about bullets and bullet fragments and your laughable "to the exclusion of all other rifles" misquote and now you say there was a 25 miles per hour wind blowing in Dallas on Nov 22 1963!! Are you for real??!! "Everything else that's conspiracy related is vapor, mist, an illusion".... and you're full of shit!!
usuIkane 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 NOT to the exclusion of all others! Jim Marrs book "Crossfire" explains this. No blood or debris on fragments or CE-399 !! LHO's prints were NOT on the Carcano until AFTER he died!!! His "marksman" score was the LOWEST possible!!! Experts could NOT match LHO's feat. BTW you accept the 'official' version DESPITE the fact there were NO chain of possession receipts for evidence, NO crossexamination of witnesses by an attorney for LHO, NO due process of law. Shameful !!
drguffey 1 year ago
@drguffey Blah blah blah blah blah. Tell me something I haven't heard before.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 Then why do you take a position so thoroughly disputed??? You say below "all the evidenced convicts LHO". IT DOES NOT !!! There isn't a single piece of evidence that isn't suspect, that was properly handled or presented. The feds had NO case at all they could properly take to court!!!
drguffey 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 Lee Harvey Oswald is innocent!!
Get over it!!
usuIkane 1 year ago
@ 7.42 which is the back wound? It would seem the smaller hole below is the bullet wound. In Robert Grodens case for conspiracy, he states that the lower wound is more consistant with a bullet wound, a close up of that smaller wound reveals it has an abrasion ring.
Anyone know wtf is going on here?
v35tan27 1 year ago
@ 9.30 Didn't JFK have a hunch back that had him bent over, he wore a back brace and then there is the gradient of the road being downward as it moved away from the TSBD.
v35tan27 1 year ago
@v35tan27 None of the doctors to inspect the photos have identified the lower blood speck as a bullet entrance. Groden is clearly incorrect about this, IMO. The abrasion ring re-produced in close-up in the HSCA report comes from the upper/larger mark on the back wound photo, not the lower. From what I can gather Groden grew suspicious about the lower wound because it was not portrayed in the drawing of the photo published in the report. But he was wrong.
PatSpeer 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 Like the Warren report is fiction.
TheAmbassador11 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 There was NO stiff wind in Dallas on November 22nd 1963
and there was certainly NO '15 to 25 mph(!!) winds blowing. Where do you get this ridiculous claptrap from??!! Are you making it up as you go along!! You write "all sorts of people have emerged out of the woodwork.." Yes! And you are one of them!! I suppose you'll be telling us next there was a hurricane blowing in Dallas on 22nd November 1963!! 25 mph wInds!! Muhahahahaha LMFAO
Yeah! You're full of wind!!
jfiIes0000000 1 year ago
@jfiIes0000000 CORRECTION! For " and there was certainly NO '15 to 25 mph(!!) winds blowing." Read "and there WERE certainly NO '15 to 25 mph(!!) winds blowing."
jfiIes0000000 1 year ago
@jfiIes0000000 If you dispute the weather conditions in Dallas that day, then take it up with Gary Mack.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 I not only dispute I REFUTE your insane claims on the weather and in particular on the wind speed in Dealey Plaza on 22nd Nov 1963. The wind speed in in Dealey Plaza on 22 Nov 1963 was 13 knots ( 13 Knots = 14.960132824306053 Miles per Hour). Your crazy statement that the wind speed was 25 mph is just that - CRAZY. A wind of 25 mph causes
large branches to move; telephone wires to whistle; men's pants to flap wildly; hats to blow off; use of umbrellas difficult if not impossible.
jfiIes0000000 1 year ago
@jfiIes0000000 Good point about the wind speed being 13 knots in Dealey Plaza on November 22 1963. Don Roberdeau gives details about the weather and wind speed on his website. Very interesting stuff! Also very interesting was LonNutter1's 'reaction' to this hard fact! LOL He starts on about conspiracy theorists and ignores your 13 knots fact! Typical reaction from these LoneNutter1 type JFK freaks. Hit them hard facts and they freeze like rabbits caught in the headlights on a dark night! LOL
sbgaIt 1 year ago
@sbgaIt Yeah! You're right. But you have to remember LoneNutter1 isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. Very immature and with limited intelligence.
jfiIes0000000 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 And as for Gary Mack I wouldn't take shit up with that charlatan.
If I happened to meet Gary Mack in Dealey Plaza and he said "good morning" I would assume immediately and correctly that he was lying. Gary Mack??!! LOL Since when has anyone ever believed anything that fraud says??!! LOL
jfiIes0000000 1 year ago
@jfiIes0000000 You're displaying a typical CT'er trait: when encountering someone who doesn't subscribe to the "conspiracy", insult and dismiss them. That's mature of you.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 Yes.Of course. LOL
Now be off with you! LMFAO LOL
jfiIes0000000 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 Why don't you go cry and Gary Mack's shoulder?
You fucking asshole!!
naIterdeeds 1 year ago 3
@naIterdeeds The only point you're making by the use of profanity it to show us your inability to form and communicate a rational idea. Keep up the good work.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 Aawwww.... The little cuntripper LoneNutter1 is annoyed by a few bad words. Why don't you get a fucking life and stop fucking pestering people in here with your fucking lies, shit and inaccuracies about the JFK assassination? You're a fucking moaning ass ripping cocksucking fucking asshole!!
Geez! Now I've gone and annoyed you as well!!
sbgaIt 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 LOL Maybe you could show us all how to be 'rational' and how to communicate.
START the good work! Asshole!!
jfiIes0000000 1 year ago
@jfiIes0000000 OK. Here's the first lesson in rational communications; Don't call someone you disagree with an asshole.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 But you are an asshole! I know you're an asshole and YOU know you're an asshole so let's be mature and RATIONAL and acknowledge the FACT!
Even jfiles000000 knows you're an asshole!! So, let's be mature and rational, here!!
Y-O-U A-R-E A-N A-S-SH-O-L-E !!!!
jfiIes0000000 1 year ago
@jfiIes0000000 Your posts are filled with profanity and name calling. That means you have nothing of any value to share.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 And you're full of shit! I notice you've stopped posting any more of your crap and nonsense about the JFK assassination. I suppose that's something to be grateful for. LOL No more of your bullet fragments baloney and wind speeds of 25 mph bullshit! LOL Why don't you tell me to get lost like you told @thesecondcaller? Very mature and rational of you!! You fucking hypocrite and fantasist!! You fucking loser!
jfiIes0000000 1 year ago
@jfiIes0000000 Alright then. Get Lost! You have nothing valuable to add to the dialogue. You're wrong about the bullet fragments, you're wrong about the wind gusts in Dealey Plaza. You're fixated on my postings and you swim in a cesspool of profanity and expect me to jump in with you and splash around. That's not going to happen so make plans to have a playdate all by yourself. Go bother someone else who finds your comments insightful.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 Oh!! Are you stalking me?Asshole! I'm right about the bullet fragments.I'm right about the wind speed in Dealey Plaza. I'm also right about YOU! You're a fucking degenerate fucked in the ass, ear and mouth cocksucker, fantasist and time waster!! I am not fixated with your inane bullshit postings BUT I would gladly fucking transfix you to a fucking wall and blow your fucking head off!! You're so fucking stupid you don't know the difference between
jfiles0000000 and jfiIes0000000 LOL
jfiIes0000000 1 year ago
@jfiIes0000000 A posting with threats of violence and an obvious lack of self control with an avalanche of profanity and perversions. Your credibility is off the charts.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 LOL You don't even know what the word 'profanity' means!! LOL
Profanity is the use of words like God, damn, hell, etc., etc. I don't use profanity!
I use obscenity!! Fuck you!! MY credibility?? What about YOUR credibility?? You NEVER had any!!! Now tell me to be mature and engage in rational debate or to get lost. You are SO mature!!! You're as mature as a rotten, stinking, old bunch of soggy bananas! LOL How come you don't write about JFK anymore? LOL
jfiIes0000000 1 year ago
@jfiIes0000000 I'll write about JFK again. But in the meantime I'll marvel at your postings and think that it's not possible for someone to reach a new low at posting maniacal rants that make so sense whatsoever. But somehow you manage to plunge to depths that are foreign to most people.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 Thank you for your kind remarks on how my posts have impressed you & on how you "marvel" at them. It would seem that you are easily impressed. However, I was sorry to read that you have "issues" writing and understanding English. I hope my posts in their own way will help you improve your English language comprehension skills. In the meantime I look forward to reading more of your "groundbreaking" and "innovative" "insights" into JFK research. You really blow me away sometimes!
jfiIes0000000 1 year ago
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@LoneNutter1 Just a small point. Some clarification would be useful. Were you being rational, mature and logical when you wrote @thesecondcaller "When you're ready to engage in an intelligent conversation about the assassination come back and visit. Until then, get lost." Do you feel this comment of yours complies with your 'rational','mature' and 'logical' rules? Could you also clarify if and when we can expect YOU to 'engage in an intelligent conversation' ?
Btw, do you own this channel?
usuIkane 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 I'm so sorry for being an asshole.My real name is VinnyVoom444 and I never believe anything the goverment tells me.My ancestors came over from Rome in the early 20th century to escape this form of goverment it's call facism.In Solidarity confinement VinnyVoom444.
jfiles000000 1 year ago
@jfiles000000 wrote: "Anyways I could babble on about fascism,The WC Report was the type of people on the Warren Commission were the kind of people my ancestors leaving and now I have the burden of knowing.Good God.In solidarity Confinement VinnyVoom444" Don't you be afraid to 'babble on' about anything. Some of your insights are truly revelatory and show a deep understanding of the world and all that's in it....so to speak. A few months in solitary can do that for some people. So 'babble on' !!
jfiIes0000000 1 year ago
@jfiles000000 I thought that was you Vinny! I recognized you by your meandering blather and pointless posts slathered in profanity.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 Actually I just lied again. VinnyVoom is my Kryptonite. My REAL names are also LittleVinnyCock and BrokenRecord14. I'm a registered pedophile, a scum fuck racist pig, and I pretend to live in the 19th Century where an inbred hillbilly asshole like me has a chance of being somebody. I spend my time here sucking up to fellow racist lying piece of shit Tom cddickhead Lowry, and trolling for prepubescent girls.
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jfiles0000000 1 year ago
@jfiles0000000 Well said!
jfiIes0000000 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 Well my ancestors came over from Rome in the early 20th century to escape the kind of people like the people on the Warren Commission.Now I'm left with the burden of going throught this evil form of Goverment called facism.Good God.Someone help me!In solidarity confinement VinnyVoom444
jfiles000000 1 year ago
@jfiles000000 Hey Number 1!! Long time no see!! You still in rehab??
Howya been??!! How are things, anyway? Great to hear from you after so long!! Grease the cat's ass for me!! Will ye, boy!! Can't get over it!
I thought you were dead again. Talk to again you soon, boy!!
What a guy!!
jfiIes0000000 1 year ago
@jfiIes0000000 And btw...Don't you apologize to anybody for being an asshole!!
There are assholes and assholes and you're one of the BEST!!
What a guy!!
jfiIes0000000 1 year ago
@jfiIes0000000 So fucking excited here I'm making typos!!!
jfiIes0000000 1 year ago
@jfiles000000 Buongiorno! Come sta!!?? What's the matter for you anyway??!!
What was the food like in solitary? Any cream cakes or was it all fish?
jfiIes0000000 1 year ago
@jfiIes0000000 Hay buddy! I always like you NOT as much as cdddraftsman but your ok Guy.
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jfiles000000 1 year ago
@jfiIes0000000 Food takes like a rubber no NOT a rubber rubber.I get as much cock as I want in prison I was having so much fun THEY moved me into Solitare confinement so THEY would not have to staple my asshole back up.In solidarity Confinement VinnyVoom444
jfiles000000 1 year ago
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jfiles000000 1 year ago
@drguffey Oswald was framed.
TheAmbassador11 1 year ago
@TheAmbassador11 No. I don't believe the Warren report is fiction.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 The reason I believe the Warren report is not true is because they refused to cheack other leads and did not follow up. The murder of a president ( or anyone else) is too important to close off to other possibilities. Why wans't the Mauser checked for ballistics? Was gun powder residue found near the so-called "sniper's nest? These are just a couple of ?s that I have. I do believe LHO was framed. They swept the assassination under the rug.
TheAmbassador11 1 year ago
OMG!! There's a huge nest of "knoll-trolls" here who don't wish to be confused with the facts. They're connecting dots in the most bazaar manner. I think I'll watch the video and get a good laugh!
autoad 2 years ago
20 shots were fired. theres 100% irrefutable evidence proving each and every one without a shadow of a doubt ever and if you do youre a non-thinking puppet of the Man.
save our ozone.
Adnoydal 2 years ago
At least two shots missed. The Tague shot and the one which hit near the manhole cover as seen on page 70 of "The Killing of a President" by Groden. There is also the damage to the windshield & windshield frame! Separate shots? Many witnesses heard MORE than three shots!
drguffey 2 years ago
Greer fired fatal shot; its so fucking obvious its stupid. Everyone watches with their eyes on Head of JFK, instead of WHO in the CAR shot him...Zapruder Film original..its just in plain view..two things have to happen for a President to be MURDERED: (1) Knowledge by the "Secret Service"(the Stand Down of the S.S. on the Motorcade makes the S.S. complicit); Greer shooting him at point blank range is known in the investigative world as a clue;(2) knowledge of the act by incoming new President LBJ
Chance99able 2 years ago
What is obvious is A. Greer does NOT have a gun in his left hand. B. His left hand is just inches from the steering wheel. C. He never points his left hand at JFK. "Greer fired fatal shot"? Virtually impossible !!! Obviously !!!
drguffey 2 years ago
The only thing obvious is your stupidity.
bibbler227 2 years ago
That video has been analyzed and while it certainly looks exactly like you say, what you are seeing is actually a sheen that is coming from the top of the head of the front seat passenger next to greer. I thought it was greer too, but look at the footage again with this in mind. It might change your mind. According to other sources, there were 4 or 5 shooters, so he was a dead man, regardless. The standing down of the SS is a crime, which has never been prosecuted.
slewofdamascus 2 years ago
Greer didn't shoot the president! The car shot him!! This limo was the prototype to the Knight Rider car on the television show. Except this one went a little funny in the head and started bumping off folks in politics. Just a minor glitch. Nobody said advancements in technology was perfectly safe.
autoad 1 year ago
@Chance99able Greer did not fire a shot at JFK.He does not have a gun in his hand.
TheAmbassador11 1 year ago
Once a bullet hits a boney area (like JFK's lower neck) it NeVeR travels as straight a string as all of the reinactments portray. The back wound could have hit a bone/rib/vertebra, deflected upward and exited out the front of his throat. However, if this occurred it likely did not hit Connelly. The gov't needs to present all recorded testimony and physical evidence to a new hi-tech generation to draw reasonable conclusions.
BULLETS DO NOT TRAVEL STRAIGHT AFTER THEY HIT BONE!!
joenm3 2 years ago
the bullet did not hit bone!
missopinionated1976 2 years ago
Wikipedia :
a) Notice official inquiree : Jim Braden was "questioned", not "arrested",
"investigated" or even "detained" by police officials .
b) They covered their bases, established he wasn't involved & sent him on his merry way. Where do u get he was involved ? Just because a ex-con like Bob Harris said so ?
c) At this time, the article isn't
"EXTENSIVELY referenced" it's under-referenced , passing mentions-tedder (talk) 20 July 2009
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
He later changed his story ..not in the building ..in the plaza.... parole officer. His PO denied his alibi.
Citations , these are all made up bullshit by Robert Harris . None of this bullshit happened , he was perpetrating another hoax and that's why wikipedia states :
"This page has been deleted" ....They couldn't find any credible references to back what RH had to say .
"Does anyone think they smell socks"? Niteshift36
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
Harris AAMOF stole his information from one of just 1000's of hoax novels on the assassn. :
Contract on America: The Mafia Murders of John and Robert Kennedy by Scheim, David E. Argyle Press, 1983
Review : "If this isn't the truth it sure is the most convincing lie I have ever heard or read".
You can say that again , how you can connect LHO wanting to go to Cuba w/ Sirhan wanting to go back to his homeland in Palestine by one 'Big Whopper' after another is illustrated in this book .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
im confused
MrTreyGunner 2 years ago
If test were done which had bullets come out just like CE-399 then how did they simulate the fragments left in JBC's wrist, chest & thigh?
drguffey 2 years ago
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shutterbum2 2 years ago
Dr Wecht asked his colleagues on the HSCA med board to show ONE instance of a bullet having done what CE-399 did & come out pristine! He also asked them to show him ONE instance of an EXIT wound like the 3-5mm indented wound seen on JFK's throat! This wound describe as an entrance wound by every doctor & nurse who saw it in Dallas. As yet none has done so. Even Michael Baden a WC apologist can't show a single instance of an Exit that looks like an entrance wound !!!
drguffey 2 years ago
From the same text book "the Lincoln assasination" is portrayed as a conspiracy , which in it's larger aspect it was (They intended to kill the 1st 3 in line of succession to the pres.)
The killing of Lincoln however was carried out stricly 'Lone Nut' style w/Booth acting on his own both in it's implimentation and initial escape .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
Are you saying the conspirators planned independently of each other? That is what you are implying.
Next, are you implying Dr. Dolce was not aware of the single bullet theory at the time he did the testing?
RPenta 2 years ago
If booth acted alone, why were so many hanged?
Midnightrambler3760 2 years ago
midniterambler is a fuckin asshole
amazrand 2 years ago
"Dr. Dolce did his long suppressed testing for the WC"
a) The WR showed examples of bullets that hit bones and were deformed which proves they did the wrong test . The WC members never told th proving grounds weapons engineers that the bullet had already gone through JFK first and thusly had slowed . Dr. Marvin Fackler did do tests w/downloaded bullets and his came out juct like CE-399 !
Dale Meyers incredibly accurate 3d computer simulation aligns the SBT perfectly .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
They can create a 3d simulation, but no similar bullet. They have had almost 50 years, are they still trying? LMAO.
Think about it, the world has changed so much that they now have the technology to create a 3D simulation but they still have not produced a similar bullet.
"incredibly accurate" - who says it is accurate, you?
Midnightrambler3760 2 years ago
midniterambler is a fuckin asshole
amazrand 2 years ago
zzzzzzzzzz
Midnightrambler3760 2 years ago
Dale Meyers video is incredibly acurate !
Puts to shame the bullshit of CTer[s like the midnightgurggler !
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
In the 1960 election, JFK concealed his Addison's disease and even stated flatly to the press "I have never had Addison's disease." That was a lie, of course. LBJ said Kennedy looked like "a spavined hunchback."
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
Z-Axis corp.
They check Forensic Animations before submittal into courts of law worldwide .
Dale Myers video passed with fjying colors and was declared well beyond the minimum acceptible levels used in courtrooms as evidence .
You'd have know that if you weren't so stewpid and actually his website .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
can create a 3d simulation, but no similar bullet
Dr.Marvin Fackler did and proved it w/downloaded bullets that struck bones at 1100 fps .
Another Floperooo by you !
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
Myers' video has been discredited as a fraud. Harris has exposed it for the nonsense that it is. Myers manipulates the positions and almost places Connally in JFK's lap to make the magic bullet theory work.
It is considered fantasy by most people yet the LN's hang on to it for dear life like shipwreck survivors clinging to any wreckage they can find.
Midnightrambler3760 2 years ago
YOU ARE A FRAUD AND A CRIMINAL !
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
It's quite sad when the lone-nutters need to cling to fabricated evidence. Their case crumbles around them and they cling to the fabricated evidence instead of accepting the truth.
The secret is out, everyone knows there was a conspiracy. Your nonsensical objections while clinging to fake discredited evidence makes you seem pathetic.
Then I realized, you cannot think for yourself. You blindly believe the government's lies without question. You are like one of those fanatical terrorists.
Midnightrambler3760 2 years ago
I used to have similar beliefs until I realized that TMWKK was funded by The History Channel controlled by A&E NetWorks which in turn is owned by mass media giants ABC , CBS & NBC .
So much for mass media controlling the thoughts of this countrys mobocracy that doesn't want to think anyway .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
And you'll find all the conspiracy's & co-conspiracists of ur JFK dreams . Next best visit one of those criminal JFK assassin. conventions.
Want proof ? : Unlike reputable historians , when you look inside any conspiracy book for 'aknowledgements' , 'credits' , 'resource' pages that explain where they started their research from , who proof read & made suggestions for improvements etc..it's totally nonexistent ! Sure fire sign that it's a creation "out of his mind" & a JFK hoax.
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
On the contrary, the people of america are thinking and they are questioning their Government. The truth will eventually come out and the conspiracy will be revealed.
Midnightrambler3760 2 years ago
Conspiracy is finished , 45 years of hoaxing the people dont believe you or conspiratards and their apologys .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
The Warren Commission is a lie we just don't believe any more.
Midnightrambler3760 2 years ago
You never read it to begin with !
HTF can you not believe it ?
Retard !
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
Didn't the warren commission conclude that the second bullet missed?
Why are you afraid to answer that question?
Midnightrambler3760 2 years ago
WC said it was not of importance .
The only thing that is important is that only two bullets struck both men causing all nine wounds .
1) SBT (7 wounds) @ Z-224 +-
2) Fatal shot (2 wounds) @ Z-313
Most scholars agree now after sophisticated computer enhancement that a missed shot happened on the 1st shot @ Z-160 . Rosemary Willis stops running & looks back at the TSBD , JFK drops his hand , JBC makes a sharp head turn from left to right .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
So the WC was incorrect about which shot missed?
She looked back at the Daltex Building.
A detailed analysis by Bob Harris shows the bullet that hit JFK and Connally came from the 3rd floor of the Daltex Building. A bullet from the TSBD would have had too steep and too side angled a trajectory to cause all the wounds in both men without being a "magic" bullet.
An overhead look at the Plaza shows the Daltex building as the most logical position for a shot from behind.
Midnightrambler3760 2 years ago
The only professional criminal interviewed in the plaza or surrounding buildings that day was Jim Braden. He was interviewed by a police officer on the 3rd floor of the Daltex building. He later changed his story to say he was not in the building but in the plaza. He later changed it again to say he was with his parole officer. His PO denied his alibi.
In order for him to have been telling the truth his parole officer and a police officer were wrong. Guess who the WC believed, LMAO!!!
Midnightrambler3760 2 years ago
it was a lone gunman crock of shit ut was
a duck hunt view on u tube "some facts have always been there
they new 10mins after the shooting they had 2 diffrent rifles alone in the book depository shell casings of a italian carbine & a german made mauser rifle
that cant fire that bullet
the bastards knew all akong they was makin the evidence FIT the story
spector should be booted out of office the slime ball bastard along with bush they should be tried for TRESON then JFK may RIP
llvlladfuker 2 years ago
The best ear/eye witness was one of the 3 black men that were below the window and he had shooting experience while hunting .
"Boom click click ....................Boom click click .........Boom click click ...
He said the 2nd and 3rd shots were closer together than the first and second .
Doesn't mean LHO was firing a machine gun , just means there's going to be a varition in ppl's opinions , especially between those that heard it w/echo's below & those who heard it up close .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
Fuck that criminal JFK and Fuck YOU TOU !
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
Single Bullet theorists become more and more desperate. More than 80% of the US population does not believe it anymore. There's so much evidence of the Warren COmmission being corrupted, unprofessional, and having neglected witnesses statements, that you can draw only one conclusion: the Single Bullet people can't change their story, because they'd need to change their way of consuming what they're told to do and believe. It's frightning. It's fear that makes the world so ugly.
ToritoNL 2 years ago
He got the weapon up there without problem, should be smart enough to get rid of it too then.
Besides, the wounds suggests then that he would have loaded the weapon with 2 full metal jacket bullets and a third soft top.
That REALLY doesn't make sense.
When it comes to Arlen Specter, I advise you all to check up on the 911 investigation, he figures there too.
To me it just seems this Specter has the mission to create theories to proove a certain point, not conclude or rule out from facts
ChrilleAmpen 2 years ago
Just how would you propose LHO smuggling out a bulky 6.5mm MC Rifle when the motorcade was the most if not the most heavily protected in history with an additional 500 police , SS , plain cloths detectives , County Sheriff's in backup along the parade route , moving in union with the motorcade in the background , some apparent and other mingling with the crowd ? How do the wounds suggest when that bullet is designed 2 stay intact unless it hits a dense bone like it did when it hit JFK's head ?
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
The truth is known to a 98% certainty , the Single Bullet Fact is a ballistic and physics certainty BUT NO ONE WANTS TO BELIEVE THE TRUTH THAT LHO DEMISED CAMELTWAT IN 8.9 SECOND'S OF HIS ONE HOUR LUNCH BREAK ! THAT'S THE REAL PROBLEM HERE ! WELL BOO WHOO TO YOU TOO ! IT ISN'T A LIE , THE LIARS ARE CONSPIRACISTS THAT MILK THE PUBLIC SO THEY WON'T HAVE TO WORK FOR A LIVING ! Live w/it . It's USG offi'cia'l history
taught in all schools at this very moment & CONSPIRACY THEORY ISN'T ! .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
the magic bullett came from the daltex building,,,,but you wouldnt know about this or who eugene hale brading was .....you also never reponded to me on the othre site, cddd, how the sound of the shots reported by many including dignitaries and police and ss went like this: Bang...........................Bang Bang..quite a feat for the carcano rifle............
migo53333 2 years ago
Well, no one is reported seeing him bring a rifle to his own work either, so with your logic he couldn't have brought the rifle then.
And IF the SBT was so obvious, Arlen Specter wouldn't had to come up with the theory.
You either draw a map of the reality, or try to alter the reality to fit the map.
ChrilleAmpen 2 years ago
Frazier his co-worker reported that day that he brought a long package into work that day .
But I supose in your rush to exonerate a police and presidential assassin that you'll forgive him and ascribe the package as "curtain rods" when he in fact already had "curtain rods" in his room at his rooming house .
Another big floperrooo by you !
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
As far as Oswald would have known, the presidental limo wouldn't have gone past the Texas book depository that day, since the route was changed only in the last minute. Offical knowledge was that it was not going to pass where Oswald was, so why bring i rifle? Just in case? Doesn't make sense.
ChrilleAmpen 2 years ago
How do you draw , in the 60's , a map of reality when a bullet is going 2000 fps ?
It wasn't until the advent of computer graphics , in the late 70's early 80's) that the bullet and what it did were proven to be factual .
You seem to be clueless about this case , why then all the assnine non-sponces ?
Just curious .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
My point is, that if you have 7 wounds, you try to figure out what caused them and how it was done. Doing that, you start with each wound by itself. That would take down the actual bullets from 7 (or 8 if you incl. headshot) to 4 (or 5).
From there comparing angles and so forth, and it's here the angles doesn't match.
Still, most wounds are penetration wounds suggesting a FMJ, while the headwound seem to be a JHP, that alone suggest another shooter.
You seem clueless about ballistics.
ChrilleAmpen 2 years ago
For your statement is to have any meaning you've got to answer the following question
How "obvious" is it when a bullet transverses two men , one who is a president , and when has this happened before and been subjected to such scrutiny ?
The fact of the matter is that this phenom was not in wounds ballistics before and HAD to have a theory that first prognosicates it .
SOP for the scientific method of determining fact .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
It had never been in wounds ballistic before, and hasn't been in wounds ballistic after his event either. Doesn't that suggest anything to you?
ChrilleAmpen 2 years ago
The Single Bullet Theory is about manipulating and suppressing facts to "support" a theory which was necessary to support the preordained Warren Commission conclusion: LHO acted alone and unaided. The second and third shots were closer together--that makes no sense--the first and second should have been closer as LHO or whoever had the weapon ready to fire the first shot already; so the first and second should have been closer.
RPenta 2 years ago
I suggest you check in to your nearest conspiracy coo-coo-clinic .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
I fail to understand why a gunman should leave his gun?
In almost any murder case the killer tries to get rid of the weapon by dumping it or destroying it, while here he leaves it?
So we have a gunman, during a presidental visit, that manages to smuggle a rifle to the nest, and then leaves it there?
Doesn't make sense, just as Spectors SBT, falls on it's own statements.
ChrilleAmpen 2 years ago