These sparring matches with superstars are ALWAYS pointless! They never spar people with the same caliber, just use the guys in the gym as punching bags. Case in point: take a look at how Glen Johnson, Ledbedev (or whatever his name is) demolished Roy. Glen Johnson hit Roy so hard he didn't get up for at least 5 minutes. I know it makes the superstar look good, but also makes the journeymen feel like crap. Let the superstars spar with the superstars, not the JOURNEYMEN.
@MrDiscernment2011 sounds good but superstars dont usually hire out as $1000/week sparing partners do they.its possible to get hurt sparing,gettin hurt for small pay is not a superstar activity usually.no offense but most sparing partners are just that,and as such are there to hone the champs skills,not to make him look good.btw,part of a sparing partners job IS to be a punchin bag.thats why they wear lots of protective gear and rotate as many as 4-8 of them at a time.louis was brutal on them
@dempsey981 Well, If the pro is sparring other pros, then I can agree with you. But if the pro decides to beat up on a novie in the Gym, he's no longer acting like a professional. Most professional boxers hands are registered as LOADED weapons. I'll bet that Pro could be sued for a negligence tort, if he recklessly injures someone who is not a pro. Also, since when does all that gear protect anyone from the shots. Every time I sparred I felt the shots. The only thing the gear does is stop cuts.
@MrDiscernment2011 pro boxers use pro sparing partners sir.a green amateur is of no use at the champion level.many champs used to be spar mates;jimmy ellis[ali],larry holmes[ali]jack dempsey[spared for many guys]etc.,etc.,i know of no incident where a pro mauled an unskilled unsigned "victim"in a spar session.this is a sport not a cover for criminal assault.boxing comissions in each state regulate the legal side of injury etc..protective gear works,and no its not immunity from shots,it helps.
@dempsey981 Ok, fair enough. What do you think about Winning products?. Are there specific headgear's' that provide more padding to absorb a blow. How about Everlast old school gear. I've seen James Toney wear it, but his defense seems to be using angles and the shoulder roll.
@MrDiscernment2011 i am currently using "Twin"gear, this is high quality muay thai gear,tho in the past ive used Everlast.Defence requires alot of skills and time,and good trainers and "sparing partners".ha ha.Slips,hitting on slips,blocking ,parry,leaning,rolling,foot evasion,takes so much time and work,and thats why so many use a simple cage defense.a cage helps but if the other guy is good if cant work around the cage.thats why mayweather doesnt get hit much,..SKILLS.I dont use Winning.
@chrisireland12 dont be afraid to get contact you have to have contact when u hit dont just throw punches in the air or get close if you cant reach ur opponent
@TheChoice264 Sounds like u hatin because those 2 were dat damn good!!! U mad cuz dey were different n werent borin do everything like errybody else type of boxers, DEY ELEVATED BOXING!!! Get his highlight tape wit all dat hatin n go dickridin boring ass dirty ass bernard hopkins
@ikebanaJc no anderson wanted to box him and that was a few years ago.A prime roy eats anderson in a boxing match.No one can beat age it will always catch up with you..
Roy needs to retire. His legacy has been destroyed!!! At least when SRR kept fighting past his prime, he kept winning the middleweight title after losing it, and to legendary fighters, at that. This is why I CANNOT understand anyone stupid enough to even mention RJJ's name in the same conversation with SRR. Like I said, I've been saying this since he beat my man James Toney, who he couldn't put away as a dehydrated, diminished fighter, then wasted his prime in an inferior weight class.
@daTruChosen Jones never had a legacy worth destroying. His legacy was how he avoided the best middle to super middleweight class in ages-Julian Jackson,Gerald McClellan,Nigel Benn,Chris Eubank,Tom Watson,John Scully,Steve Collins,Tim Littles while all these guys fought each other. Meanwhile Jones was fighting dehydrated Toney,puffed up juice head lightweight Vinny Paz,Brendon Bryant(?)fresh from prison, and old McCallum and Hill as you said. And all those dumb gimmicks like the basketball game?
@daTruChosen Jones,in my opinion, was and is a fraud, a phony, right up there with Naseem Hamed. They had their hand in ruining this beautiful sport in the mid 90's. I agree with you that Jones was not a true practitioner of the sweet-science. Toney and Hopkins were real boxers. Look at Julio Cesar Chavez. He could fight all those fights and take all comers for 25 yrs because he had mad skill. Yes, he lost a few, as we all do, but you get my point. Hope i didnt offend if you're a Jones fan.Peace
@TheChoice264 I kind of agree with your theory. Roy Jones didn't fight like the technical sweet science boxer. He had such an athletic talent he didn't need to be technical at all. The only flaw was him losing that half step of speed when he got out of his prime. He got so use to his speed and power that when the age hit him his fundamentals were lost. Guys like Bhop are still swingin and winnin because of their perfect fundamentals and great technical minds.
@TheChoice264 Hey..Do you think Jones threw the fight with Glen Johnson, After a buddy came down to the ring and whispered something in Jones' ear, he seemed to fall like a ton of bricks, after a overhand right..
Ask Denis Lebedev if Roy is the best. See, I been telling y'all ... this is what happens when your prime is defined by superhuman athletic talent that cleverly disguises a glaring lack of fundamental technical skill. Once you lose your prime, your weaknesses are all that remain. In the case of both James Toney and Bernhard Hopkins, both fighters are such technical geniuses, they can conceivably fight until they turn 50 and not suffer one of the FIVE knockouts Roy has in the last seven yrs.
@daTruChosen I agree. After I the Glen Johnson fight, I think Roy was hurting...In his prime he would've destroyed Lebedev, but his reaction time has SLOWED. He needs to retire, before Parkinson's comes for him.
рой выиграл этот бой.он умный он хотел красивый бой и даже не против был дать шанс лебедю топать вперед достойно но тот по своей тупости жестокости амбиц и из-за того что умишко то слабое охранник как -никак нничего не понял в итоге вместо красивой победы проиграл.лебедев проигравший и это очевидно просто красноперые считают что выиграл но это потому что у них мозг как у лебедя.лебедь добивал чела находящегося в глубоком нокауте и чуть не убил на глазах у всех.лебедь позор бокса и россии
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Wazzup youtubers. Now i'm askin' y'all 'bout other Jone's video. It's called simply '' Roy Jones Jr. Training '', where Roy in red clothes and where any comment. I'm interested in that, what song playin' first, in front of 2 pac song. Can't find it by lyrics an' i wanna BUMB this sh** right now yo! Who knows can write a name of ... In advance tx!!!
Peace and love, y'all ... I'm done droppin' sense on this topic. You RJJ worshippers are still blinded by all that long-gone flash, though the only two fighters of repute that he has EVER defeated were BHop and Toney. Toney beat: Sosa (undefeated); Nunn (undefeated champ); McCallum (2X); Johnson; Barkley (champ); Littles (undefeated); Williams (ex-champ); Jirov (younger, undefeated champ); Holyfield (4X heavyweight champ), and Ruiz (heavyweight champ, and in spite of the steroid charge).
Bottom line: I'll take James Toney's savant-like skill set over Roy Jones' prodigious athleticism any day. The prior's abilities are dying harder than a bitch; he's still able to slip punches in his fucking sleep, counter any damn thing coming at him, and stand in there against the hardest punchers ... the latter's abilities have eroded right before our eyes, resulting in his being exposed as a technically flawed showman with more style than substance. HIs defense SUCKS!!!
RJ was just too elite during his prime. thats why he didnt find the fighter who would make his legacy even better (ex. ali vs frazier, leonard vs hearns). RJ was almost supernatural during prime.
3. cont. criticizing someone for not having the same track of life is one thing...saying that he's got sub-par skills because he didn't fight specific fighters is reckless and ignorant. if that's your logic...explain why everyone was letting calzaghe's performance nut on your backside? a legend? no one's even talking about him anymore...lol!
KNOCKED DOWN by slight punches, imagine calzaghe's level of success in the states-see: kelly pavlik.
2cont. ...they would have to deal with his speed and evasive skills. even on the street level...you couldn't fuck with a guy who could hit you in your ugly face and hardly ever get touched-who could fuck with that. they guy stepped up in weight to test his training and skill and found some success. roy met a couple of fighters that neutralized his style-great. working with speed is difficult training. it's not something that's ON, you have to turn that shit ON...and it's hard to every fght
wow. is this what you call hatred? first of all...name any fighter, both up and coming and current that can duplicate what roy has...i'll wait. while your dumb ass is scratching your head and staring out of the upper right corner of your eyes. let me tell you-NO ONE. everyone said that manny wasn't gonna do shit against a fighter because of this and that...they all crumbled under SPEED, fuckers. regardless of who YOU think he needs to fight for credibility...if roy fought 'em they...
@brendos444 James Toney; not Roy, made James Toney look terrible coming in dehydrated after cutting 40lbs in 4 weeks, rather than training for a fighter he clearly underestimated and lost as a result. Roy Jones made himself look bad by not KO'ing a man who was just looking for an excuse to lose in such a fashion. He couldn't put him away because he was too busy running track in the ring. Had Toney been at his best for that fight, he would've easily beaten Jones ... easily, mind you.
@daTruChosen Ummmmm... JT has never been stopped. not by roy or anyone else. JT may have been weight drained. That's his excuse anyway. But RJJ comprehensively beat a prime JT. I don't care how much JT had to kill himself to make weight. He got schooled and that's the bottom line. No one has done that to JT. RJJ is the only fighter to definitively beat Bhop. And destroying a very good Montell Grifin also deserves credit.
@brendos444 Apparently you've never fought before, or you wouldn't have made a statement as stupid as that. He should've been schooled dumbass; a 5 yr old could've schooled him in the weakened state he came to the fight in. I'm not impressed. And Roy didn't definitively beat B-Hop ... go back and watch it, OBJECTIVELY, and you'll see it was a much closer fight than the judges scored it. Most of RJJ's flash and hissing after phantom jabs didn't even get through, nor did the shoe shine shit
@daTruChosen Ummmm Toney was beaten twice by Montell Griffin. Yeah the same Griffin that got his ass handed to him by Jones twice. Griffin was a great fighter and RJJ destroyed him. Ok Toney got robbed in the second fight. But still, he was nowhere near as comprehensive as Roy! Oh and Jones did beat Bhop. No one disputes this.
@brendos444 The associative property applies to math, but not to boxing ... styles make fights; i.e., just because Roy defeated Montel Griffin in the first round of their rematch (let's not forget he was getting bested by Montel before his DQ loss), does NOT make him a superior fighter to James Toney. And Toney got robbed TWICE against Montel. No one disputes THIS. Roy's been stopped three times, Toney has never been stopped, and has beaten better opponents. Toney = 1st ballot HOF; Roy = ?
RJJ beat Toney easy. NO ONE disputes this. You can bring up all the excuses you want. But Toney hardly won a round in that fight. Are you going to put all that down to weight? C'mon! In the first fight, RJJ had Montell down and probably would have finished him if he hadn't hit him on the ground. We all know what happened in the second. Griffin was a really good fighter. RJJ beat bhop very convincingly too. Again, no one disputes this. Both Toney and RJJ are HOF quality. Y'all must've forgot!!!
@brendos444 not saying that Toney would have won but cutting 44+ pounds with duretics and laxitives is fucking MISERABLE. Hell even cutting 15 pounds is nearly impossible for most and they get drained after the 4th or 5th. Had Toney been the Toney that fought Nunn, it would have been definitely a much more competitive fight. Man Id kill for speed like Rjj or skills like Toney though lol
@thecrazyoftheinsane Of course sheddding weight took something out of Toney. But the guy still had great skill, he still knew all the tricks... It wasn't ODLH v pacman type of weight drain. Toney was the champ at super middle. So i'm not prepared to put the whole performance down to weight. I think Toney would have beaten any other fighter under the same circumstances. Roy was special. and y'all must've forgot how great he was in his prime.
im tierd of these people sayin they can beat roy and that he sucks and cant fight.. if he was PROVEN to be one of the greatest boxers in history WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU SAYIN HE"S NOT!! like deltafour1212 that fag thinks he can beat roy up.. everyone knows damn well roy woulda put his ass to sleep
A lot of Roy's critics will say, he didn't fight great competition. I disagree I think during his prime he fought plenty of great fighters but even if he hadn't I would still call him the best of his era. Tyson won the heavyweight titles from Trevor Burbick, James Smith and Tony Tucker not exactly hall of famers. People that know boxing can tell the way a fighter moves, his reflexes, his counter punching ability, his speed how good a fighter is and Roy was the a class above everyone else.
@bigsleep32 i don't know man it's hard to tell between tyson and jones who'd win but they should definetly arrange the fight between them back then..it'd be epic! age difference=3, height=equal, reach=3in for jones, tyson a bit "bigger" (wider), jones a bit faster, tyson a bit stronger heh ... but when jones started not long after tyson's career went downhill so if you ask me there should be 2 fights..one in 89-91 before tyson went to jail and other in 95/96 when jones was on top :)
@bigsleep32 Name them. Name them, goddamn it! Who? Where are they? Eric Lucas? Montell Griffin? Otis Grant? Lou Del Valle? David Telesco? Thulane Maligna? Vinnie Pazienza (chuckling)? The only two fighters of note Roy Jones ever defeated were James Toney and Bernhard Hopkins, and he couldn't even put away a James Toney who was dehydrated after cutting 40lbs in a month. If Toney were properly trained for that fight, he'd have KILLED Jones.
@daTruChosen Not one man has ever stopped James Toney. Roy beat him by 11 points. Saying that Toney would have destroyed him when Toney lost almost every round and landed about 3 good punches the whole night. That statement is so amazingly stupid I can't tell you. I don't expect kids as dumb as you to be able to see true talent. You kids judge fighters only on their opponents and fights they have never seen. You haven't seen those fights boy.
@bigsleep32 First of all, LOSER, I'm an ex-fighter; not just boxing, but Muay Thai ... did that shit for a long time, too, so that hardly makes me a boy, nor does it mean I don't know about that which I write. It means the exact opposite. Secondly, the GREATEST single arbiter of assessing a fighter's rank against history IS HIS OPPONENT LIST. Roy Jones Jr.'s opponent list is pitiful. He NEVER had real boxing skill, just supreme athletic talent. This was shown once he lost his prime, dummy!
@xTheMeanBeanx Clearly, with your grammatical mistakes and abbreviated phrases, you're the one who must be five. Tell me, how was Roy Jones PROVEN to be one of the greatest fighters in history? How? He only proved two things: one, that he was the most PHYSICALLY gifted (not technical, which is what REAL boxing is ... counterpunching, defense, strategy, traps, etc.) boxer to ever fight; two, that those prodigious physical talents, once faded, masked a laughable joke of technical insufficiency.
@Haassan1 They are, but not as big as the technical attributes, as is EVIDENT in how superior defensive fighters and counterpunchers like James Toney, Bernhard Hopkins, Archie Moore, Roberto Duran, etc., etc., were able to fight LONG after they'd past their physical primes. The level of their respective technical abilities were nearly savant-like; so instinctive that they even in the face of the deficiencies of advanced age and poor conditioning, they can still be successful, or not be KO'd.
@daTruChosen And I dont believe Roy Jones is technically weak, he has skills. Mentall attributes are, in my opion, the biggest part of boxing and I believe that Roy lost some of his mental qualties. He doenst really commit like he used to. You should give Roy more credit.
@Haassan1 I respect Roy's athleticism; I've said it many times, and will continue to say ... he's the most physically gifted athlete that I've ever seen. I've been watching boxing most of my life, and was an amateur fighter for a long time, and Roy Jones has the fastest hands I've ever seen: faster than Meldrick Taylor, Zab Judah, Shane Mosley, and Sugar Ray Leonard; I give him credit for that. But it's difficult to praise the technical abilities of a guy who WASTED his prime fighting bums.
@Haassan1 Also, I consider offensive boxing ability lower on the scale of technical proficiency than defense, counterpunching, footwork, and strategy, because offense is a matter of repetition; i.e., I can teach anyone how to punch/combination punch ... all it takes are mitts and a heavy bag. But the skill of defense cannot be learned without the benefit of sparring and partner drills, and counterpunching is the highest form of technical skill because, by definition, defense is it prerequisite.
@daTruChosen Yeah, but Roy had countering abilities and footwork. He hasnt got the best technics, but I believe he is a good skilled boxer. And you cant blame him for using his speed, or say it isnt real boxing. It's about what you like to see in a boxer. I like speed, sick ass footwork, feints, unusual combos, angels. And you know that Roy makes it look all easy, but when trying it for yourself, you know its takes a lot of practice (And the same goes for countering and defending, it needs prac.
@Haassan1 Dude, Roy was NOT a counterpuncher ... not even. That's why his defensive stance consisted SOLELY of a wall guard (both forearms in front of him), and allowing an opponent to pound away at his arms until he spun out of a corner or high-tailed it outa there. Take the greatest counterpuncher of all time; James Toney, for instance: he took a Philly crab stance, as it allows loose torso rotation and angles the body away from the opponent, naturally positioning him for the shoulder roll.
@daTruChosen Dude, Roy slipped and countered massive in his prime. Slipping is partly speed and reflex, but mostly practice, practice, practice, practice, practice and more practice.
@Haassan1 Didn't say he COULDN'T slip and counter ... he just DIDN'T do it often enough for it to become the replacement style he needed it to be once he lost his prime. Under pressure, a fighter will always revert to the LOWEST (i.e.; most instinctive) level of his training. If that base level isn't defined by solid technical ability, success after one's prime is exceedingly difficult. After Jones/Tarver 1; the last fight Jones could've been considered in his prime, his record is 5 - 6.
@Haassan1 In the previous SIXTEEN years of his career, he'd only lost once. Why? Because during those sixteen years, he only had to utilize his otherworldly physical gifts, coasting through a deluge of hopelessly overmatched opponents. Now, had he fought; say, a Julian Jackson or a Michael Nunn at super middle instead of hauling ass north to lightheavyweight, we'd very likely be having a totally different discussion. Nunn would've given him fits; Jackson plain would've knocked his ass OUT!!!!
Julian Jackson wouldn't have touched Roy. That fighter had one trick and one trick only, and that was his ridiculous punch. Roy would have danced rings around him, and when Jackson wore himself out trying to drop those highlight reel bombs, Roy would have dropped him in 6 rounds.
@WhereIsMyMind9077 Julian Jackson would never have worn himself out; he was a always a superbly conditioned athlete. He was also a solid fighter (solid enough to KO a prime Terry Norris, and leftie technician Herrol Graham) whose underrated skills were overshadowed by demonic, TWO-FISTED power. Jackson's fatal flaw was a weak chin, which Roy's risk-averse style would've prevented him from exploiting. And, in terms of power, Roy Jones Jr was no Gerald McClellan, who KO'd Julian Jackson twice.
@Haassan1 You want to see a superior display of counterpunching ... watch ANY James Toney fight; especially his rout of Iran Barkley, his comeback win against Michael Nunn, or either of his first two fights against Mike "The Bodysnatcher" McCallum. Counterpunching 101. He's the only man with 400+ punches landed in 4 TITLE fights (against Barkley, Williams, Glenn Wolfe, and Thornton) ... that's because his ability to counter any punch gave him endless chances to land punches throughout a fight.
@Haassan1 When your physical abilities erode (as RJJ's clearly did during the Tarver/Johnson debacles), and a solid technical base doesn't exist beneath at a more fundamental level to take its place, you tend to get that ass whupped by fighters who would've been considered inferior when you were at the top of your game, and able to fight by pure virtue of physical prodigy, and no skill at all. I've saying this shit to people since 1994, and now everyone sees I am right about Roy; always was.
@daTruChosen Wow you predicted that Roy would eventually lose since 94? The year right before he started winning and defended multiple championship titles over and over again? Good for you. That must have taken some serious brain power on your part.
@ObviousTrull What the fuck are YOU talking about? It's not rocket science. He was a runner since he turned pro; I mean, come on. Really? You're funny ... a goddamned joke, in fact.
@daTruChosen lol You're the one thinking you deserve some attention for predicting his eventual loss ............... years later. ZZzz. Good for you. You must have worked hard for that.
and thats what made him good... u say he didnt have boxing skills.. boxing skills are... bend ur knees a liil.. keep ur hands up... throw jabs alot and right hands and hooks and upercuts when ever u can... but mostly just jabs... and shit EVERYONE WHO DID THE EXACT OPPOSITE WAS KNOW AS THE GREATEST BOXERS/ FIGHTERS IN THE WORLD!! MUHAMMAD ALI.. ANDERSON SILVA (HE DID BOXING TOO) AND ROY JONES JR.. JUST CUZ THEY MIX THINGS UP AND GOT THEY OWN SWAG AND STYLTE DONT MEAN THEY CANT FIGHt...
@bigsleep32 Finally, bright boy, I know Roy Jones easily defeated James Toney (though it wasn't by eleven points ... more like 8 or 9; I watched the fight). What he didn't do, because he was pitifully unable, was knock a a man out who was begging to be (as I said, Toney allowed his weight to baloon to 216 after the Williams fight that July, and had to lose 40lbs in the month before the fight). Thus the 88% KO ratio Jones had compiled before the Toney fight was exposed as dubious wins vs. bums!
@daTruChosen Kids like you watch a few youtube videos look at his record on google and think they can give expert opinions. I forgot more about boxing than you will ever know. Leave the comments to people who know what they are talking about not to young youtube turds that don't know shit. I can tell how good a boxer is regardless of how many great fighters they fight it didn't matter if it was Toney, Hopkins, Clinton Woods or a club fighter it's the way he beat them. You wouldn't understand
@bigsleep32 Roy Jones doesn't even get consideration for greatest pound for pound. Not even. Sure, he would've had he NOT moved up to lightheavyweight and wasted his prime (1997 - 2003, from ages 28 - 34) in a division wholly populated by inferior fighters of NO repute. He could've, and SHOULD have, fought Michael Nunn, Julian Jackson, Nigel Benn, rematched Hopkins (not seventeen years after the fact) and Toney, and ousted upstart Oscar De La Hoya. It isn't he couldn't make the weight.
@bigsleep32 calzaghe made jones his personal little bitch. made him look a fool in front of his own people. roy got paid back for being cocky and doing cocky shit to bums and cans he fought. he dind't pull none of his gay cute shit against tarver, johnson, ruiz. haha made him look THE FOOL!
@PacSmash You do not know anything about boxing. Where was calzaghe in Roy´s prime? And he fought Bums? James Toney,Mike McClellan?,Bernard Hopkins?John Ruiz? They all bums?
@bigsleep32 Dude I been looking to put those words together for the longest but all that came out was "Fuck you you fucking assholes Roy Jones was the best. POWER, SPEED, REFLEXES." Almost the same but yea you hit the target with that comment bro.
If you want to be the best you have to make yourself the best, you're not born to be the best.
I'm boxing now, since I'm 11, I'm 15 now, have some experience and want to get to the top. I trained with my brothers since I was very young, around 6, and I am lucky to have good genetics, but I'm not a born fighter, I've made myself into one.
some boxers naturally find things easyer then other boxers, there are such things as a natural, although natural or not natural you can still work to get to the top and on the same level as the naturals. nothings impossible. end of. so stop repeating and debating over the same thing.
@Manveet anyone can be passioniate with what they do, if you want to box, you can box, if you want to be a great boxer, you can be a great boxer. boxers weren't born special.
@sk8forlife90 I beg to differ, there are people that are born naturals in every sport. I'm not saying it takes a natural to become a great, but a lot of people are born fighters.
@Infeckta mike tyson wasn't born a fighter, ali wasn't born a fighter, jackie johnson wasn't born a fighter, roy jones jr wasn't born a fighter, pretty much every boxing legend wasn't born a fighter.
@Manveet no boxer has anything special that a average person dosn't have, isn't born with something other people don't have. i'm gonna say a word that i want you to look up and think about for a long time, the word is "passion". look it up in the dictionary.
@Manveet i don't even watch boxing or anything that much, and i don't watch tv either, tv is for fat people :P i kickbox and box dumbass so i can say that, i didn't even know how to fight two years ago now i kick ass. practicing everyday is important, not genes, any fighter will tell you that. listen to bruce lee, or mike tyson.
No, not anybody can be a good boxer even if they did train 7 days a week. At the pro level it is very much an attribute based sport, backed by endless training, but the average jo could NOT get in there and bang w/ the pros. NO WAY.
LOL @ sk8forlife90....No, not "ANYBODY" can be a boxer...Not on a pro level. Sure anyone can wrap their hands, lace up, train and hit the bag...but not everyone will be good. Some people will NEVER EVER EVER be even 1/2 way decent boxers even if they did train 7 days a week. It is an attribute based sport and most simply will NOT have the speed, coordination, and athletic ability to fight at the pro or even amatuer level.
@MADBALL99 Anybody can be a boxer but theres always someone better depend on reflex , instinct , aggresivity , speed , cardio. You can train all those, but some just got it
@simflanm not everybody can be a boxer man, believe me i amature boxed for 10 years bro, and i saw some people who had no business being in that ring. to make at the highest level of boxing, boxing is the only thing u can devote urself to and everyting else must be channeled out. were talking 6-8 hours in the gym training and 2-3 hours on the streets running evryday. its a very difficult life style, and why only a chosen few can succeed at the highest level. that holds true for any competition
no1 can do a 5 left hook combo like roy
jg582344 1 week ago
i remember the welsh white boy wooping his ass !
M4rKd4Sh4rk 1 week ago
Gotta love that rapid-fire hook
davidw9785 1 week ago
@davidw9785 yea kool shots,unique.
dempsey981 1 week ago
These sparring matches with superstars are ALWAYS pointless! They never spar people with the same caliber, just use the guys in the gym as punching bags. Case in point: take a look at how Glen Johnson, Ledbedev (or whatever his name is) demolished Roy. Glen Johnson hit Roy so hard he didn't get up for at least 5 minutes. I know it makes the superstar look good, but also makes the journeymen feel like crap. Let the superstars spar with the superstars, not the JOURNEYMEN.
MrDiscernment2011 3 weeks ago
@MrDiscernment2011 sounds good but superstars dont usually hire out as $1000/week sparing partners do they.its possible to get hurt sparing,gettin hurt for small pay is not a superstar activity usually.no offense but most sparing partners are just that,and as such are there to hone the champs skills,not to make him look good.btw,part of a sparing partners job IS to be a punchin bag.thats why they wear lots of protective gear and rotate as many as 4-8 of them at a time.louis was brutal on them
dempsey981 1 week ago
@dempsey981 Well, If the pro is sparring other pros, then I can agree with you. But if the pro decides to beat up on a novie in the Gym, he's no longer acting like a professional. Most professional boxers hands are registered as LOADED weapons. I'll bet that Pro could be sued for a negligence tort, if he recklessly injures someone who is not a pro. Also, since when does all that gear protect anyone from the shots. Every time I sparred I felt the shots. The only thing the gear does is stop cuts.
MrDiscernment2011 1 week ago
@MrDiscernment2011 pro boxers use pro sparing partners sir.a green amateur is of no use at the champion level.many champs used to be spar mates;jimmy ellis[ali],larry holmes[ali]jack dempsey[spared for many guys]etc.,etc.,i know of no incident where a pro mauled an unskilled unsigned "victim"in a spar session.this is a sport not a cover for criminal assault.boxing comissions in each state regulate the legal side of injury etc..protective gear works,and no its not immunity from shots,it helps.
dempsey981 1 week ago
@dempsey981 Ok, fair enough. What do you think about Winning products?. Are there specific headgear's' that provide more padding to absorb a blow. How about Everlast old school gear. I've seen James Toney wear it, but his defense seems to be using angles and the shoulder roll.
MrDiscernment2011 1 week ago
@MrDiscernment2011 i am currently using "Twin"gear, this is high quality muay thai gear,tho in the past ive used Everlast.Defence requires alot of skills and time,and good trainers and "sparing partners".ha ha.Slips,hitting on slips,blocking ,parry,leaning,rolling,foot evasion,takes so much time and work,and thats why so many use a simple cage defense.a cage helps but if the other guy is good if cant work around the cage.thats why mayweather doesnt get hit much,..SKILLS.I dont use Winning.
dempsey981 1 week ago
u see that must of been 20 punches atleast
nufcRules34 1 month ago
fuck i love roy jones jr, so fucking good at what he does
JGeorseski13 1 month ago
Well he still has the pop on his punches so i think he's gonna be around for awhile..Watch Roy's coming for that Heavyweight crown
fmhsmanager 1 month ago in playlist BOXING
@fmhsmanager i just dont want to see him get hurt.
justin8910 4 weeks ago
Those are one of the best left hooks I've seen in boxing thus far.
TUGADUNKS 1 month ago
When i am in the ring i am good at dodging but when it comes to punching its like i can never hit them or am i just not going close enough?
chrisireland12 2 months ago
@chrisireland12 dont be afraid to get contact you have to have contact when u hit dont just throw punches in the air or get close if you cant reach ur opponent
040yeah 1 month ago
@TheChoice264 Sounds like u hatin because those 2 were dat damn good!!! U mad cuz dey were different n werent borin do everything like errybody else type of boxers, DEY ELEVATED BOXING!!! Get his highlight tape wit all dat hatin n go dickridin boring ass dirty ass bernard hopkins
LilT08 2 months ago
the music is just PERFECT!
kalvinl8 3 months ago 3
Roy is to fast for Anderson silva he will fuck Silva up completely i dont care what people say, but you cant touch roy, its impossible.
htzcorp 4 months ago 4
song?
DonKilluminatis 5 months ago
@DonKilluminatis Whats the Scenario by A Tribe Called Quest
havok231 5 months ago
Heard he wants to fight MMA against Anderson Silva...poor Roy.
ikebanaJc 6 months ago
@ikebanaJc no anderson wanted to box him and that was a few years ago.A prime roy eats anderson in a boxing match.No one can beat age it will always catch up with you..
sportsjunkie113 6 months ago
nice
akaganggreen 6 months ago
Roy is pure talent! Check out my double end bag video..........
TheLorie71 6 months ago
SONG NAME A Tribe Called Quest - Scenario
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zagotas13 8 months ago 7
his hooks are so quick lol
The100CrackFist 8 months ago
@The100CrackFist left hook is crackn, and the speed of repetition is phenomenal
decepticonsofnwo 7 months ago
Roy needs to retire. His legacy has been destroyed!!! At least when SRR kept fighting past his prime, he kept winning the middleweight title after losing it, and to legendary fighters, at that. This is why I CANNOT understand anyone stupid enough to even mention RJJ's name in the same conversation with SRR. Like I said, I've been saying this since he beat my man James Toney, who he couldn't put away as a dehydrated, diminished fighter, then wasted his prime in an inferior weight class.
daTruChosen 8 months ago
@daTruChosen Jones never had a legacy worth destroying. His legacy was how he avoided the best middle to super middleweight class in ages-Julian Jackson,Gerald McClellan,Nigel Benn,Chris Eubank,Tom Watson,John Scully,Steve Collins,Tim Littles while all these guys fought each other. Meanwhile Jones was fighting dehydrated Toney,puffed up juice head lightweight Vinny Paz,Brendon Bryant(?)fresh from prison, and old McCallum and Hill as you said. And all those dumb gimmicks like the basketball game?
TheChoice264 4 months ago
@daTruChosen Jones,in my opinion, was and is a fraud, a phony, right up there with Naseem Hamed. They had their hand in ruining this beautiful sport in the mid 90's. I agree with you that Jones was not a true practitioner of the sweet-science. Toney and Hopkins were real boxers. Look at Julio Cesar Chavez. He could fight all those fights and take all comers for 25 yrs because he had mad skill. Yes, he lost a few, as we all do, but you get my point. Hope i didnt offend if you're a Jones fan.Peace
TheChoice264 4 months ago
@TheChoice264 .......*yawn*
TruBluN00B 4 months ago
@TheChoice264 I kind of agree with your theory. Roy Jones didn't fight like the technical sweet science boxer. He had such an athletic talent he didn't need to be technical at all. The only flaw was him losing that half step of speed when he got out of his prime. He got so use to his speed and power that when the age hit him his fundamentals were lost. Guys like Bhop are still swingin and winnin because of their perfect fundamentals and great technical minds.
cleve101 4 months ago
@TheChoice264 Hey..Do you think Jones threw the fight with Glen Johnson, After a buddy came down to the ring and whispered something in Jones' ear, he seemed to fall like a ton of bricks, after a overhand right..
MrDiscernment2011 3 weeks ago
Ask Denis Lebedev if Roy is the best. See, I been telling y'all ... this is what happens when your prime is defined by superhuman athletic talent that cleverly disguises a glaring lack of fundamental technical skill. Once you lose your prime, your weaknesses are all that remain. In the case of both James Toney and Bernhard Hopkins, both fighters are such technical geniuses, they can conceivably fight until they turn 50 and not suffer one of the FIVE knockouts Roy has in the last seven yrs.
daTruChosen 8 months ago
@daTruChosen I agree. After I the Glen Johnson fight, I think Roy was hurting...In his prime he would've destroyed Lebedev, but his reaction time has SLOWED. He needs to retire, before Parkinson's comes for him.
MrDiscernment2011 3 weeks ago
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рой выиграл этот бой.он умный он хотел красивый бой и даже не против был дать шанс лебедю топать вперед достойно но тот по своей тупости жестокости амбиц и из-за того что умишко то слабое охранник как -никак нничего не понял в итоге вместо красивой победы проиграл.лебедев проигравший и это очевидно просто красноперые считают что выиграл но это потому что у них мозг как у лебедя.лебедь добивал чела находящегося в глубоком нокауте и чуть не убил на глазах у всех.лебедь позор бокса и россии
paris3966 8 months ago
body shot at 0.39
SuperJH007 8 months ago
ya'll must have forgot
one of the greatest fighters of all time
todafacetodaface 8 months ago
great fighter, undoubtedly one the of the greatest of all time.
thadoc009 9 months ago
what is the song's name?
The1ROMAN1 9 months ago
@The1ROMAN1 a tribe called quest-whats the scenario :)
UnknownGamerSketchy 9 months ago
@UnknownGamerSketchy thanks)))
The1ROMAN1 4 months ago
"HEY GUYS.i made a new account and i decided to show people wat mma is all about. i am a boxer and a gracie juijitsu blue belt, im going to give people a chance to see me GROW INTO a mixed martial artist. ill be bloging and posting my training sessions and tournements, come subscribe and watch me grow as a person, watch me grow as a mixed martial artist with my team.
RudeBoyRGA 9 months ago
HE LOOKS LIKE CUBA GOODING
planta46 9 months ago
solid jabs
Matak12 10 months ago
reyes don't make the best sparring gloves. just too rough on the partner for the most part anyway.
brandeezy108 10 months ago
@brandeezy108 Can you elaborate more on those gloves?
meynard1 10 months ago
@meynard1 what do you mean? what do you want to know about them? gonna buy them? if so i can help.
brandeezy108 10 months ago
@brandeezy108 Well like could you explain to me why those gloves are rough in the partner.
meynard1 10 months ago
0:45 - PERFECT counter jab!
Marcolar 10 months ago
piston hooks
boipinoi604 10 months ago
super fast hands
BIGGAME170 10 months ago
Jones' last great fight. Should've retired after this, but it's only easy to say in retrospect.
Escopeta87 10 months ago
an exellent fight i would love to see...roy (in his prime) vs tyson (in his prime) :D
MrDimebag1995 10 months ago
@MrDimebag1995 I think Roy would win based on speed.
chineseal 10 months ago
Wazzup youtubers. Now i'm askin' y'all 'bout other Jone's video. It's called simply '' Roy Jones Jr. Training '', where Roy in red clothes and where any comment. I'm interested in that, what song playin' first, in front of 2 pac song. Can't find it by lyrics an' i wanna BUMB this sh** right now yo! Who knows can write a name of ... In advance tx!!!
hardstyleplayer9 10 months ago
yooo i love his jab and the rythm he uses to slip punches
streetboxing7493 10 months ago
yooo i love his jab ad the rythm he uses to slip punches
streetboxing7493 10 months ago
Peace and love, y'all ... I'm done droppin' sense on this topic. You RJJ worshippers are still blinded by all that long-gone flash, though the only two fighters of repute that he has EVER defeated were BHop and Toney. Toney beat: Sosa (undefeated); Nunn (undefeated champ); McCallum (2X); Johnson; Barkley (champ); Littles (undefeated); Williams (ex-champ); Jirov (younger, undefeated champ); Holyfield (4X heavyweight champ), and Ruiz (heavyweight champ, and in spite of the steroid charge).
daTruChosen 11 months ago
Bottom line: I'll take James Toney's savant-like skill set over Roy Jones' prodigious athleticism any day. The prior's abilities are dying harder than a bitch; he's still able to slip punches in his fucking sleep, counter any damn thing coming at him, and stand in there against the hardest punchers ... the latter's abilities have eroded right before our eyes, resulting in his being exposed as a technically flawed showman with more style than substance. HIs defense SUCKS!!!
daTruChosen 11 months ago
Only person I'm convinced that could've taken out Roy in his prime was Gerald McClellan...that man was the definition of horrific punching power
fishraw 11 months ago
RJ was just too elite during his prime. thats why he didnt find the fighter who would make his legacy even better (ex. ali vs frazier, leonard vs hearns). RJ was almost supernatural during prime.
Icyfighter604 11 months ago
CLETO REYES
BallantinesJR 11 months ago
who is his parring partner ?
sfourne2 11 months ago
3. cont. criticizing someone for not having the same track of life is one thing...saying that he's got sub-par skills because he didn't fight specific fighters is reckless and ignorant. if that's your logic...explain why everyone was letting calzaghe's performance nut on your backside? a legend? no one's even talking about him anymore...lol!
KNOCKED DOWN by slight punches, imagine calzaghe's level of success in the states-see: kelly pavlik.
but YOU call HIM a legend.
Roy is a great!
doctorsizzle 11 months ago
2cont. ...they would have to deal with his speed and evasive skills. even on the street level...you couldn't fuck with a guy who could hit you in your ugly face and hardly ever get touched-who could fuck with that. they guy stepped up in weight to test his training and skill and found some success. roy met a couple of fighters that neutralized his style-great. working with speed is difficult training. it's not something that's ON, you have to turn that shit ON...and it's hard to every fght
doctorsizzle 11 months ago
wow. is this what you call hatred? first of all...name any fighter, both up and coming and current that can duplicate what roy has...i'll wait. while your dumb ass is scratching your head and staring out of the upper right corner of your eyes. let me tell you-NO ONE. everyone said that manny wasn't gonna do shit against a fighter because of this and that...they all crumbled under SPEED, fuckers. regardless of who YOU think he needs to fight for credibility...if roy fought 'em they...
doctorsizzle 11 months ago
roy jones didnt fight crap fighters....OPEN UR EYES
and realise that ROY JONES SIMPLY MADE THESE FIGHTERS LOOK LIKE NOBODY
henrydube 1 year ago
@henrydube agree.... look at the fight against James Toney. Toney is NOT a bum, Roy just made him look terrible.
brendos444 11 months ago
@brendos444 James Toney; not Roy, made James Toney look terrible coming in dehydrated after cutting 40lbs in 4 weeks, rather than training for a fighter he clearly underestimated and lost as a result. Roy Jones made himself look bad by not KO'ing a man who was just looking for an excuse to lose in such a fashion. He couldn't put him away because he was too busy running track in the ring. Had Toney been at his best for that fight, he would've easily beaten Jones ... easily, mind you.
daTruChosen 11 months ago
@daTruChosen Ummmmm... JT has never been stopped. not by roy or anyone else. JT may have been weight drained. That's his excuse anyway. But RJJ comprehensively beat a prime JT. I don't care how much JT had to kill himself to make weight. He got schooled and that's the bottom line. No one has done that to JT. RJJ is the only fighter to definitively beat Bhop. And destroying a very good Montell Grifin also deserves credit.
brendos444 11 months ago
@brendos444 Apparently you've never fought before, or you wouldn't have made a statement as stupid as that. He should've been schooled dumbass; a 5 yr old could've schooled him in the weakened state he came to the fight in. I'm not impressed. And Roy didn't definitively beat B-Hop ... go back and watch it, OBJECTIVELY, and you'll see it was a much closer fight than the judges scored it. Most of RJJ's flash and hissing after phantom jabs didn't even get through, nor did the shoe shine shit
daTruChosen 11 months ago
@daTruChosen Ummmm Toney was beaten twice by Montell Griffin. Yeah the same Griffin that got his ass handed to him by Jones twice. Griffin was a great fighter and RJJ destroyed him. Ok Toney got robbed in the second fight. But still, he was nowhere near as comprehensive as Roy! Oh and Jones did beat Bhop. No one disputes this.
brendos444 11 months ago
@brendos444 The associative property applies to math, but not to boxing ... styles make fights; i.e., just because Roy defeated Montel Griffin in the first round of their rematch (let's not forget he was getting bested by Montel before his DQ loss), does NOT make him a superior fighter to James Toney. And Toney got robbed TWICE against Montel. No one disputes THIS. Roy's been stopped three times, Toney has never been stopped, and has beaten better opponents. Toney = 1st ballot HOF; Roy = ?
daTruChosen 11 months ago
RJJ beat Toney easy. NO ONE disputes this. You can bring up all the excuses you want. But Toney hardly won a round in that fight. Are you going to put all that down to weight? C'mon! In the first fight, RJJ had Montell down and probably would have finished him if he hadn't hit him on the ground. We all know what happened in the second. Griffin was a really good fighter. RJJ beat bhop very convincingly too. Again, no one disputes this. Both Toney and RJJ are HOF quality. Y'all must've forgot!!!
brendos444 11 months ago
@brendos444 not saying that Toney would have won but cutting 44+ pounds with duretics and laxitives is fucking MISERABLE. Hell even cutting 15 pounds is nearly impossible for most and they get drained after the 4th or 5th. Had Toney been the Toney that fought Nunn, it would have been definitely a much more competitive fight. Man Id kill for speed like Rjj or skills like Toney though lol
thecrazyoftheinsane 10 months ago
@thecrazyoftheinsane Of course sheddding weight took something out of Toney. But the guy still had great skill, he still knew all the tricks... It wasn't ODLH v pacman type of weight drain. Toney was the champ at super middle. So i'm not prepared to put the whole performance down to weight. I think Toney would have beaten any other fighter under the same circumstances. Roy was special. and y'all must've forgot how great he was in his prime.
brendos444 10 months ago
@brendos444 First Fight with Bhop Roy went in with 1 Good hand.
meynard1 10 months ago
Those hooks at the end....all I can say is WOW!
Ronsam2006 1 year ago
Respect.
deezeeize 1 year ago
im tierd of these people sayin they can beat roy and that he sucks and cant fight.. if he was PROVEN to be one of the greatest boxers in history WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU SAYIN HE"S NOT!! like deltafour1212 that fag thinks he can beat roy up.. everyone knows damn well roy woulda put his ass to sleep
xTheMeanBeanx 1 year ago
there only sparring in the video. why does the music remind me of a death chamber.
HaloLegendarymaster 1 year ago
He's lucky he retired.
I'd kick his ass all over the ring!
I'D show him who's DA MAN!
deltafour1212 1 year ago
@deltafour1212 Are you the world champion??
ArrancarKiller 1 year ago
@deltafour1212 LOL!! shut the fuck up hahaha
xTheMeanBeanx 1 year ago
legend ,speed ,movement and power just wish he would retire
matty25181030 1 year ago
Roy Jones, Ya'll musta forgot! One of my favourtie 5 boxers of all time,
arama0010 1 year ago
what about roy in his prime against pacman?
cedern92 1 year ago
Roy Jones is the Scenario!
hickeydh 1 year ago
MEAN LEFT HAND
IIsisonII 1 year ago
Does anyone know what Documentary this comes from? Cheers
awesomeeman 1 year ago
@awesomeeman Roy Jones jr - The Sweet Science
Mammoliti01 1 year ago
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@awesomeeman Roy Jones jr - The Sweet Science
Mammoliti01 1 year ago
A lot of Roy's critics will say, he didn't fight great competition. I disagree I think during his prime he fought plenty of great fighters but even if he hadn't I would still call him the best of his era. Tyson won the heavyweight titles from Trevor Burbick, James Smith and Tony Tucker not exactly hall of famers. People that know boxing can tell the way a fighter moves, his reflexes, his counter punching ability, his speed how good a fighter is and Roy was the a class above everyone else.
bigsleep32 1 year ago 49
@bigsleep32 well said, I could not agree more, in his prime he would be a hand full for any middle weight great e.g. Hagler, Robinson etc
BPrincey 1 year ago
@bigsleep32 i don't know man it's hard to tell between tyson and jones who'd win but they should definetly arrange the fight between them back then..it'd be epic! age difference=3, height=equal, reach=3in for jones, tyson a bit "bigger" (wider), jones a bit faster, tyson a bit stronger heh ... but when jones started not long after tyson's career went downhill so if you ask me there should be 2 fights..one in 89-91 before tyson went to jail and other in 95/96 when jones was on top :)
iLuvHardStyle 1 year ago
@bigsleep32 Name them. Name them, goddamn it! Who? Where are they? Eric Lucas? Montell Griffin? Otis Grant? Lou Del Valle? David Telesco? Thulane Maligna? Vinnie Pazienza (chuckling)? The only two fighters of note Roy Jones ever defeated were James Toney and Bernhard Hopkins, and he couldn't even put away a James Toney who was dehydrated after cutting 40lbs in a month. If Toney were properly trained for that fight, he'd have KILLED Jones.
daTruChosen 1 year ago
@daTruChosen Not one man has ever stopped James Toney. Roy beat him by 11 points. Saying that Toney would have destroyed him when Toney lost almost every round and landed about 3 good punches the whole night. That statement is so amazingly stupid I can't tell you. I don't expect kids as dumb as you to be able to see true talent. You kids judge fighters only on their opponents and fights they have never seen. You haven't seen those fights boy.
bigsleep32 1 year ago
@bigsleep32 First of all, LOSER, I'm an ex-fighter; not just boxing, but Muay Thai ... did that shit for a long time, too, so that hardly makes me a boy, nor does it mean I don't know about that which I write. It means the exact opposite. Secondly, the GREATEST single arbiter of assessing a fighter's rank against history IS HIS OPPONENT LIST. Roy Jones Jr.'s opponent list is pitiful. He NEVER had real boxing skill, just supreme athletic talent. This was shown once he lost his prime, dummy!
daTruChosen 1 year ago
@daTruChosen what are u like 5? shut the fuck up and go watch tv cuz ull never gona b watched on it roy jones woulda beat yo ass
xTheMeanBeanx 1 year ago
@xTheMeanBeanx Clearly, with your grammatical mistakes and abbreviated phrases, you're the one who must be five. Tell me, how was Roy Jones PROVEN to be one of the greatest fighters in history? How? He only proved two things: one, that he was the most PHYSICALLY gifted (not technical, which is what REAL boxing is ... counterpunching, defense, strategy, traps, etc.) boxer to ever fight; two, that those prodigious physical talents, once faded, masked a laughable joke of technical insufficiency.
daTruChosen 1 year ago
@daTruChosen ....Bullshit, physicall attributes are a (big) part of boxing too.
Haassan1 1 year ago
@Haassan1 They are, but not as big as the technical attributes, as is EVIDENT in how superior defensive fighters and counterpunchers like James Toney, Bernhard Hopkins, Archie Moore, Roberto Duran, etc., etc., were able to fight LONG after they'd past their physical primes. The level of their respective technical abilities were nearly savant-like; so instinctive that they even in the face of the deficiencies of advanced age and poor conditioning, they can still be successful, or not be KO'd.
daTruChosen 1 year ago
@daTruChosen And I dont believe Roy Jones is technically weak, he has skills. Mentall attributes are, in my opion, the biggest part of boxing and I believe that Roy lost some of his mental qualties. He doenst really commit like he used to. You should give Roy more credit.
Haassan1 1 year ago
@Haassan1 I respect Roy's athleticism; I've said it many times, and will continue to say ... he's the most physically gifted athlete that I've ever seen. I've been watching boxing most of my life, and was an amateur fighter for a long time, and Roy Jones has the fastest hands I've ever seen: faster than Meldrick Taylor, Zab Judah, Shane Mosley, and Sugar Ray Leonard; I give him credit for that. But it's difficult to praise the technical abilities of a guy who WASTED his prime fighting bums.
daTruChosen 1 year ago
@Haassan1 Also, I consider offensive boxing ability lower on the scale of technical proficiency than defense, counterpunching, footwork, and strategy, because offense is a matter of repetition; i.e., I can teach anyone how to punch/combination punch ... all it takes are mitts and a heavy bag. But the skill of defense cannot be learned without the benefit of sparring and partner drills, and counterpunching is the highest form of technical skill because, by definition, defense is it prerequisite.
daTruChosen 1 year ago
@daTruChosen Yeah, but Roy had countering abilities and footwork. He hasnt got the best technics, but I believe he is a good skilled boxer. And you cant blame him for using his speed, or say it isnt real boxing. It's about what you like to see in a boxer. I like speed, sick ass footwork, feints, unusual combos, angels. And you know that Roy makes it look all easy, but when trying it for yourself, you know its takes a lot of practice (And the same goes for countering and defending, it needs prac.
Haassan1 1 year ago
@Haassan1 Dude, Roy was NOT a counterpuncher ... not even. That's why his defensive stance consisted SOLELY of a wall guard (both forearms in front of him), and allowing an opponent to pound away at his arms until he spun out of a corner or high-tailed it outa there. Take the greatest counterpuncher of all time; James Toney, for instance: he took a Philly crab stance, as it allows loose torso rotation and angles the body away from the opponent, naturally positioning him for the shoulder roll.
daTruChosen 1 year ago
@daTruChosen Dude, Roy slipped and countered massive in his prime. Slipping is partly speed and reflex, but mostly practice, practice, practice, practice, practice and more practice.
Haassan1 11 months ago
@Haassan1 Didn't say he COULDN'T slip and counter ... he just DIDN'T do it often enough for it to become the replacement style he needed it to be once he lost his prime. Under pressure, a fighter will always revert to the LOWEST (i.e.; most instinctive) level of his training. If that base level isn't defined by solid technical ability, success after one's prime is exceedingly difficult. After Jones/Tarver 1; the last fight Jones could've been considered in his prime, his record is 5 - 6.
daTruChosen 11 months ago
@Haassan1 In the previous SIXTEEN years of his career, he'd only lost once. Why? Because during those sixteen years, he only had to utilize his otherworldly physical gifts, coasting through a deluge of hopelessly overmatched opponents. Now, had he fought; say, a Julian Jackson or a Michael Nunn at super middle instead of hauling ass north to lightheavyweight, we'd very likely be having a totally different discussion. Nunn would've given him fits; Jackson plain would've knocked his ass OUT!!!!
daTruChosen 11 months ago
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Julian Jackson wouldn't have touched Roy. That fighter had one trick and one trick only, and that was his ridiculous punch. Roy would have danced rings around him, and when Jackson wore himself out trying to drop those highlight reel bombs, Roy would have dropped him in 6 rounds.
WhereIsMyMind9077 11 months ago
@WhereIsMyMind9077 Julian Jackson would never have worn himself out; he was a always a superbly conditioned athlete. He was also a solid fighter (solid enough to KO a prime Terry Norris, and leftie technician Herrol Graham) whose underrated skills were overshadowed by demonic, TWO-FISTED power. Jackson's fatal flaw was a weak chin, which Roy's risk-averse style would've prevented him from exploiting. And, in terms of power, Roy Jones Jr was no Gerald McClellan, who KO'd Julian Jackson twice.
daTruChosen 11 months ago
@Haassan1 You want to see a superior display of counterpunching ... watch ANY James Toney fight; especially his rout of Iran Barkley, his comeback win against Michael Nunn, or either of his first two fights against Mike "The Bodysnatcher" McCallum. Counterpunching 101. He's the only man with 400+ punches landed in 4 TITLE fights (against Barkley, Williams, Glenn Wolfe, and Thornton) ... that's because his ability to counter any punch gave him endless chances to land punches throughout a fight.
daTruChosen 1 year ago
@Haassan1 When your physical abilities erode (as RJJ's clearly did during the Tarver/Johnson debacles), and a solid technical base doesn't exist beneath at a more fundamental level to take its place, you tend to get that ass whupped by fighters who would've been considered inferior when you were at the top of your game, and able to fight by pure virtue of physical prodigy, and no skill at all. I've saying this shit to people since 1994, and now everyone sees I am right about Roy; always was.
daTruChosen 1 year ago
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ObviousTrull 1 year ago
@daTruChosen Wow you predicted that Roy would eventually lose since 94? The year right before he started winning and defended multiple championship titles over and over again? Good for you. That must have taken some serious brain power on your part.
ObviousTrull 1 year ago
@ObviousTrull What the fuck are YOU talking about? It's not rocket science. He was a runner since he turned pro; I mean, come on. Really? You're funny ... a goddamned joke, in fact.
daTruChosen 1 year ago
@daTruChosen lol You're the one thinking you deserve some attention for predicting his eventual loss ............... years later. ZZzz. Good for you. You must have worked hard for that.
ObviousTrull 11 months ago 13
and thats what made him good... u say he didnt have boxing skills.. boxing skills are... bend ur knees a liil.. keep ur hands up... throw jabs alot and right hands and hooks and upercuts when ever u can... but mostly just jabs... and shit EVERYONE WHO DID THE EXACT OPPOSITE WAS KNOW AS THE GREATEST BOXERS/ FIGHTERS IN THE WORLD!! MUHAMMAD ALI.. ANDERSON SILVA (HE DID BOXING TOO) AND ROY JONES JR.. JUST CUZ THEY MIX THINGS UP AND GOT THEY OWN SWAG AND STYLTE DONT MEAN THEY CANT FIGHt...
xTheMeanBeanx 1 year ago
@bigsleep32 Finally, bright boy, I know Roy Jones easily defeated James Toney (though it wasn't by eleven points ... more like 8 or 9; I watched the fight). What he didn't do, because he was pitifully unable, was knock a a man out who was begging to be (as I said, Toney allowed his weight to baloon to 216 after the Williams fight that July, and had to lose 40lbs in the month before the fight). Thus the 88% KO ratio Jones had compiled before the Toney fight was exposed as dubious wins vs. bums!
daTruChosen 1 year ago
@daTruChosen Kids like you watch a few youtube videos look at his record on google and think they can give expert opinions. I forgot more about boxing than you will ever know. Leave the comments to people who know what they are talking about not to young youtube turds that don't know shit. I can tell how good a boxer is regardless of how many great fighters they fight it didn't matter if it was Toney, Hopkins, Clinton Woods or a club fighter it's the way he beat them. You wouldn't understand
bigsleep32 1 year ago
@bigsleep32 Roy Jones doesn't even get consideration for greatest pound for pound. Not even. Sure, he would've had he NOT moved up to lightheavyweight and wasted his prime (1997 - 2003, from ages 28 - 34) in a division wholly populated by inferior fighters of NO repute. He could've, and SHOULD have, fought Michael Nunn, Julian Jackson, Nigel Benn, rematched Hopkins (not seventeen years after the fact) and Toney, and ousted upstart Oscar De La Hoya. It isn't he couldn't make the weight.
daTruChosen 1 year ago
@daTruChosen BUT.. he wsnt AND he DIDNT.. case closed
xTheMeanBeanx 1 year ago
@bigsleep32 Not just as a fighter but as an athlete, he could have picked any sport and excelled in it.
TheBradTobin 1 year ago
@bigsleep32 can't agree more. sad is that even such a great boxer ages too.
junegill 1 year ago
@bigsleep32 roy was the best light heavyweight and supermiddle weight in the game. and tyson was one of the best heavyweights. even ali said that
tokeypon 11 months ago
@bigsleep32 calzaghe made jones his personal little bitch. made him look a fool in front of his own people. roy got paid back for being cocky and doing cocky shit to bums and cans he fought. he dind't pull none of his gay cute shit against tarver, johnson, ruiz. haha made him look THE FOOL!
PacSmash 11 months ago
@PacSmash You do not know anything about boxing. Where was calzaghe in Roy´s prime? And he fought Bums? James Toney,Mike McClellan?,Bernard Hopkins?John Ruiz? They all bums?
meynard1 11 months ago
@bigsleep32 Dude I been looking to put those words together for the longest but all that came out was "Fuck you you fucking assholes Roy Jones was the best. POWER, SPEED, REFLEXES." Almost the same but yea you hit the target with that comment bro.
Gr33nNdY3llow 11 months ago
@bigsleep32 he was so good he made his opponents look average
ESSJ333 10 months ago
@bigsleep32 Mike and Roy was just born in bit too late.. woulda been great if 3 of em dominated the HEAVY WEIGHT..
Hallucination01 10 months ago
@bigsleep32 Well said.
sabihiqbal 8 months ago
@bigsleep32 Yes Roy is the best!!!
shvajci 8 months ago 25
@bigsleep32 no1 says he didnt fight great competition every1 says he should retire hes embarasing himslef now
bosanaczauvjek 8 months ago
You're not born a fighter, You're made a fighter.
Mickh6666 1 year ago
@Mickh6666 There are born fighters and made fighters , but to be a great fighter you have to make yourself become one.
TreyMMA 1 year ago
@TreyMMA Not really man.
If you want to be the best you have to make yourself the best, you're not born to be the best.
I'm boxing now, since I'm 11, I'm 15 now, have some experience and want to get to the top. I trained with my brothers since I was very young, around 6, and I am lucky to have good genetics, but I'm not a born fighter, I've made myself into one.
TallaTraxxHC 1 year ago
@TallaTraxxHC You completely misunderstood "facepalm"
TreyMMA 1 year ago
@TreyMMA Confused...lool
TallaTraxxHC 1 year ago
hes fast but those sparring partners are just letting him beat them up
Celphinx 1 year ago
some boxers naturally find things easyer then other boxers, there are such things as a natural, although natural or not natural you can still work to get to the top and on the same level as the naturals. nothings impossible. end of. so stop repeating and debating over the same thing.
SuperBendin 1 year ago
@Manveet anyone can be passioniate with what they do, if you want to box, you can box, if you want to be a great boxer, you can be a great boxer. boxers weren't born special.
sk8forlife90 1 year ago
@sk8forlife90 I beg to differ, there are people that are born naturals in every sport. I'm not saying it takes a natural to become a great, but a lot of people are born fighters.
Infeckta 1 year ago
@Infeckta mike tyson wasn't born a fighter, ali wasn't born a fighter, jackie johnson wasn't born a fighter, roy jones jr wasn't born a fighter, pretty much every boxing legend wasn't born a fighter.
sk8forlife90 1 year ago
@Manveet no boxer has anything special that a average person dosn't have, isn't born with something other people don't have. i'm gonna say a word that i want you to look up and think about for a long time, the word is "passion". look it up in the dictionary.
sk8forlife90 1 year ago
@Manveet i don't even watch boxing or anything that much, and i don't watch tv either, tv is for fat people :P i kickbox and box dumbass so i can say that, i didn't even know how to fight two years ago now i kick ass. practicing everyday is important, not genes, any fighter will tell you that. listen to bruce lee, or mike tyson.
sk8forlife90 1 year ago
Roy's all time P4P, still I believe, but from this sparring his feet don't connect to his punches,,,
hangonboard 1 year ago
superman. nobody was as good as roy in his prime.
tonyvalente 1 year ago
good shit
rootiest 1 year ago
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOO! AINT NOBODY LIKE ROY IN HIS PRIME!
mike2hype 1 year ago
Jones has too much fun in the ring, it's not a job for him
poncekid56 1 year ago
@poncekid56 oh man u should be hung lol
TheClassifiedMan 1 year ago
@TheClassifiedMan What you talkin bout?
poncekid56 1 year ago
@poncekid56 u said boxing wasnt a job for roy when it is
TheClassifiedMan 1 year ago
@TheClassifiedMan *face palm* "You never work a day in your life when you enjoy what you do."
poncekid56 1 year ago
@poncekid56 well why work at somthing that you dont enjoy?
TheClassifiedMan 1 year ago
@TheClassifiedMan You're obviously not getting what I'm saying..... he enjoys boxing so much that it isn't a job
poncekid56 1 year ago
No, not anybody can be a good boxer even if they did train 7 days a week. At the pro level it is very much an attribute based sport, backed by endless training, but the average jo could NOT get in there and bang w/ the pros. NO WAY.
MADBALL99 1 year ago
@MADBALL99 Scenario
SkylineTMR 1 year ago 5
LOL @ sk8forlife90....No, not "ANYBODY" can be a boxer...Not on a pro level. Sure anyone can wrap their hands, lace up, train and hit the bag...but not everyone will be good. Some people will NEVER EVER EVER be even 1/2 way decent boxers even if they did train 7 days a week. It is an attribute based sport and most simply will NOT have the speed, coordination, and athletic ability to fight at the pro or even amatuer level.
MADBALL99 1 year ago
@MADBALL99 Anybody can be a boxer but theres always someone better depend on reflex , instinct , aggresivity , speed , cardio. You can train all those, but some just got it
simflanm 1 year ago
@simflanm not everybody can be a boxer man, believe me i amature boxed for 10 years bro, and i saw some people who had no business being in that ring. to make at the highest level of boxing, boxing is the only thing u can devote urself to and everyting else must be channeled out. were talking 6-8 hours in the gym training and 2-3 hours on the streets running evryday. its a very difficult life style, and why only a chosen few can succeed at the highest level. that holds true for any competition
TheDannyboy55 1 year ago
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SkylineTMR 1 year ago
@SkylineTMR Stfu Bitch
SkylineTMR 1 year ago
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SkylineTMR 1 year ago
Cus D´amato said it:"speed kills"
nandete55 1 year ago
What always puzzled me about Roy was, not only did he have God Given Hand Speed but how accurate he was!!
eazilyiapproach 1 year ago
He sold his soul to the devil =) may be he is actually devil =)
The3beg 1 year ago
fastest hands the game has ever seen from middleweight to heavyweight, simply a phenomenon.
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vonderekjr 1 year ago
Thumbs up for the weird alien noise in the backround
Skylights44 1 year ago