Didn't clear much up about jpeg vs raw. I do, however, now understand that a fire hose is stronger than a garden hose. I'll check out the other vids and see if there is anything helpful there.
use RAW for all my wedding work BUT when I make my 24x36 inch large prints.. I have them in JPG. I dont know anyone who prints raw.. Maybe TIFF but isnt that just another conversion? So What do you do to make a large print. I use a 10% increase action that increaes the file size by 10% at a time.. without affecting the IQ of the file.. In other words Im not zooming in, a Scott Kelby tech.. So how do you make a 24x36 poster once you have your file in RAW? Do you use TIFF or something else?
lol. very nice. cheers to your grandmother. I think the video is puts it to the point (as we say in germany) that the comparison for jpg/raw is negative/positive. Maybe it is a little difficult to understand for persons who grew up only with digital stuff.
I have made large prints (18 inches wide from an Olympus DSLR) from in-camera JPEGs which I had heavily post-processed in Photoshop . I saw precisely ZERO compression artefacts, banding, or any other problems, even when I inspected the print from inches away. All this worrying is silly.
RAW files are not really like negatives. You can only get correct colours and tones from RAW files if you a) use the camera manufacturer's software to 'develop' it, or b) calibrate the RAW converter for your RAW software using a colour-checker chart, which almost no-one does. Jpegs straight from the camera have correct colour. And if you think you need to do extreme post-processing, maybe you need to get better at using the camera.
@Disney312 Are you kidding? Print size isn't the reason using RAW is so important. Image data/quality is! RAW is akin to a digital negative. The purest representation of your digital images that you can have. JPEG compresses, and irreversibly removes data from your image file.
Yes, but the RAW file has to be converted to JPEG either way. Even Jared Polin admits that the camera is likely to get the processing right most of the time. Why not leave it to the camera then?
@burntvirtue No one can actually see the difference between RAW and JPEG in a print, unless you use EXTREMELY high compression ratios in the JPEG AND make enormous prints too. The whole point of JPEG compression algorithms is that they remove data that humans can't perceive anyway, like MP3s but for images. And it's not a 'pure' representation if your RAW converter gets the colours wrong, which almost always happens! Adobe camera RAW always butchers the colours compared to the in-camera JPEG.
For those amateurs with dslrs, this was extremely informative. I had no idea what the differences were. The comparisons and demonstrations helped me understand. Plz don't hate in helpful vids.
Great series of vids. I didn't even know there were people who were against shooting raw. I mean.... WTF? I want less data in my photo? Not shooting raw is only a matter of being lazy and not caring enough about the quality of their photo.
I'm very much an amateur and shooting a Nikon D60 now, soon will upgrade to D7000, and I only shoot RAW! (almost always in manual mode as well) :P
whats the issue about raw vs jpeg people, you should buy a dslr to shoot raw with, if you'r just going to stick to jpegs, please just hand youself a compact camera. i always shoot raw ;)
Screw the negative comments...i just started with digital photography, it is partly by your influence, that i bought Nikon D3100 to start with, you encourage me on every step with my camera...im a beginner to photography and your videos, web pages, raw edits, everythnig is helping me so much to get better! sorry for being rude and commenting one of your older videos (still the best videos)! Hello from Czech republic and hell yeah I S-H-O-O-T RAAAAAAAW!!!
@mateoc15 why would you say its useful? This is part of a larger series, a whole week of videos with Raw Vs Jpeg including examples and situations so on so forth. Sorry to waste your time with this video.
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@JaredPolin No I stopped after watching this one. You can at least start off with some factual information and not trying to associate with film negatives and 4x6 prints which aren't even comparable. Plus I don't understand what the point of blasting a Ken Rockwell dummy with a fire hose has anything to do with this. I'm not a rockwell fan or anything, but at least have some more relevant stuff in your video. And seriously 10 parts? Do you really want to bore people that much?
@Mariosdog There are plenty of facts in the videos that I created. They were created to go on my web site as a full week series to explain the difference between RAW and JPEG as well as SHOW the differences in examples. It is 10 parts because I answered 10 or 11 different questions people bring up about RAW vs JPEG. The fire hose vs garden hose is making a point about FILE size. I associate with film and 4x6 to make a point most beginners will understand and most understand the association.
@JaredPolin Hi I just got my canon 7D, first SLR camera and was wondering, should I start shooting in raw or jpeg. Being a newbie to the whole camera business, I think it would take me ages to learn to tweak the camera for good shots in jpeg, while in raw I could just change most of the stuff on my pc, what's your take on that?
@yobmas722 Well, it feels very solid and beefy. Very comfy. The grip is quite big, large enough for my medium sized hands. Much better than lower end models such as 550d or 1000d. Well the build quality, you can certainly feel the magnesium alloy casing, it feels very robust, you could probably beat someone up with it haha. Very impressive camera both in terms of ergo and build quality
Oh man! I don't understand why people have such a hard time getting this. I would think it would help if you shoot the same thing with both and do an ultimate zoom side by side on one of the smaller objects. Also show the extra features like lens warp correction, and the sharpen and how much things can be corrected. The JPEG is clearly square pixels, whereas the RAW is more like pixels, dots of color. Also, a way I look at it, working from raw, it is like it builds the color off of black,(CONT.)
@TOPHERHARPER Whereas JPEG collects all the color and takes the best version on your presets and records it. No going back. So, if things are underexposed, you are painting over top of the files original best guess. My fav part is boosting the fill light, You can really balance out your photo. RAW! In studio setting where you control the light, JPEG is fine, anything else RAW makes a huge difference!
As for RAW, enlarging it is no different than enlarging a JPEG of the same size. Pixels are still the same (other than that RAW has more data stored per pixel which should have no effect on enlargement whatsoever), and since RAW is interpreted as pixel data, it acts the same way as any JPEG when being enlarged, and that is loss of detail. So as far as I am concerned you can't really compare enlargement of RAW vs JPEG to film negative vs print.
@w0ble Where it comes in handy when enlarging a RAW from a JPEG is that if your jpeg has changes that were made such as over sharpening in the original file as you go huge 40x60 those type of artifacts become more noticeable than in the RAW file which when your enlarging the exported JPEG as you are right, you make the sharpening changes when you get to the final size.
@JaredPolin True about that. But if you work in a non-destructive environment like LR then it doesn't really matter. You still export in the end and retain your original file with all the settings.
Don't get me wrong though, I do shoot RAW but mainly because it contains assload of data to play with in post.
It's great that you started making vids about Raw files, because I just bought myself a camera and I have no idea how everything works and this is a good start ! I'm a graphic designer trying to learn how to take my own pictures ! So thanks for these great videos !
Didn't clear much up about jpeg vs raw. I do, however, now understand that a fire hose is stronger than a garden hose. I'll check out the other vids and see if there is anything helpful there.
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is that the tiff file power at 02:54 ?
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TheDx917 1 week ago
this video is hilarious i like it
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this is a bad video ... useless.
abhi86gupta 2 months ago
use RAW for all my wedding work BUT when I make my 24x36 inch large prints.. I have them in JPG. I dont know anyone who prints raw.. Maybe TIFF but isnt that just another conversion? So What do you do to make a large print. I use a 10% increase action that increaes the file size by 10% at a time.. without affecting the IQ of the file.. In other words Im not zooming in, a Scott Kelby tech.. So how do you make a 24x36 poster once you have your file in RAW? Do you use TIFF or something else?
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BX02 2 months ago
Its him having fun its called LIVING!!! You should try it some time. :)
heavenwithin81 3 months ago
stupid and so very lame.
SuperDanerz 3 months ago
lol. very nice. cheers to your grandmother. I think the video is puts it to the point (as we say in germany) that the comparison for jpg/raw is negative/positive. Maybe it is a little difficult to understand for persons who grew up only with digital stuff.
Ike
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What becomes of the RAW file after tweaking? What do you print? Could it be a JPEG?
623moreira 4 months ago
I think somebody's got arrested by an ambulance.Lol, Btw. Nice vid man.
mark250k 4 months ago
HOW CAN THE DOLL LOOK SO SMALL?!
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Mat397 6 months ago
NO SPAM!!!!!
Hey guys, I have a slideshow on my channels (well more like 4) and I want you guys to check it out for me! They too are also RAW!!!!!!!!
noobie1890 7 months ago
I cried when you ripped the film XD
nhercher 7 months ago
photo editing a JPEG to me like painting a photo print with sharpie
SandstonRedneck2 8 months ago
A lot of work has gotten into shoehorning semi-coherent arguments into a case that only tries to promotes a subjective gut feeling. RAW != NEGATIVE.
retepvosnul 9 months ago
Im guessing you arent a fan of Ken Rockwell?
Zam919 9 months ago
I have made large prints (18 inches wide from an Olympus DSLR) from in-camera JPEGs which I had heavily post-processed in Photoshop . I saw precisely ZERO compression artefacts, banding, or any other problems, even when I inspected the print from inches away. All this worrying is silly.
guitarpedant 9 months ago
RAW files are not really like negatives. You can only get correct colours and tones from RAW files if you a) use the camera manufacturer's software to 'develop' it, or b) calibrate the RAW converter for your RAW software using a colour-checker chart, which almost no-one does. Jpegs straight from the camera have correct colour. And if you think you need to do extreme post-processing, maybe you need to get better at using the camera.
guitarpedant 9 months ago
lol!
2point6x4 10 months ago
I enjoyed that. People who want to do stock photography really need to know this and shoot in RAW.
artistginger9 10 months ago
That's just the happy van coming to take you to the ha-ha house.
crispycritterz 10 months ago
you are a bore!!!
shyanne305 1 year ago
What if you're not making prints or enlargements? What good is RAW then?
Disney312 1 year ago
@Disney312 Are you kidding? Print size isn't the reason using RAW is so important. Image data/quality is! RAW is akin to a digital negative. The purest representation of your digital images that you can have. JPEG compresses, and irreversibly removes data from your image file.
burntvirtue 11 months ago
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Yes, but the RAW file has to be converted to JPEG either way. Even Jared Polin admits that the camera is likely to get the processing right most of the time. Why not leave it to the camera then?
Disney312 11 months ago
@burntvirtue No one can actually see the difference between RAW and JPEG in a print, unless you use EXTREMELY high compression ratios in the JPEG AND make enormous prints too. The whole point of JPEG compression algorithms is that they remove data that humans can't perceive anyway, like MP3s but for images. And it's not a 'pure' representation if your RAW converter gets the colours wrong, which almost always happens! Adobe camera RAW always butchers the colours compared to the in-camera JPEG.
guitarpedant 9 months ago
@Disney312 With RAW, you have ALL of the original data from the sensor. Once you shoot in JPEG you have some flexibility but not nearly as much.
GladiatorsFan1 6 months ago
I love your videos. Very useful. I paln on using your tips for personal use and storyboarding locations. I just got the Adobe Light room.
indieFilmFanatic91 1 year ago
For those amateurs with dslrs, this was extremely informative. I had no idea what the differences were. The comparisons and demonstrations helped me understand. Plz don't hate in helpful vids.
Chefsglen 1 year ago
how could you treat a neg like that im sad now
rhyskallen 1 year ago
Thank you, for all your videos.
DaStupidFace 1 year ago
"My name is Lilian, and I shoot RAW!"
priceless xD
MVC7CVM 1 year ago
Great video!
Very informative.
Sidenote: where did you get the I shoot in RAW shirt? I'd love one! :)
TofuProductionCinema 1 year ago
Great series of vids. I didn't even know there were people who were against shooting raw. I mean.... WTF? I want less data in my photo? Not shooting raw is only a matter of being lazy and not caring enough about the quality of their photo.
I'm very much an amateur and shooting a Nikon D60 now, soon will upgrade to D7000, and I only shoot RAW! (almost always in manual mode as well) :P
OtakuDepot 1 year ago
Lilian is the shiz...and I shoot RAW
ltcell 1 year ago
good point, good video! I like
bratvlad 1 year ago
whats the issue about raw vs jpeg people, you should buy a dslr to shoot raw with, if you'r just going to stick to jpegs, please just hand youself a compact camera. i always shoot raw ;)
RobbertGroenendijk 1 year ago
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PhotoExtremist 1 year ago
@PhotoExtremist polin***
DustinBodenVEVO 1 year ago
Screw the negative comments...i just started with digital photography, it is partly by your influence, that i bought Nikon D3100 to start with, you encourage me on every step with my camera...im a beginner to photography and your videos, web pages, raw edits, everythnig is helping me so much to get better! sorry for being rude and commenting one of your older videos (still the best videos)! Hello from Czech republic and hell yeah I S-H-O-O-T RAAAAAAAW!!!
AlfaBravoMax 1 year ago
I love the critics. As if they were compelled to watch this video.
With respect 'mateoc15' and 'Mariosdog' - ever seen Top Gear?
How much 'useful information' is in the average TG episode??
Now watch the insipid 'Motorweek'. With tons of lovely facts it should be far superior to the childish, over-produced Top Gear, right?
Wrong.
AshtonPhoto 1 year ago 3
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A LOT of production put into a video with minimal useful information.
mateoc15 1 year ago
@mateoc15 why would you say its useful? This is part of a larger series, a whole week of videos with Raw Vs Jpeg including examples and situations so on so forth. Sorry to waste your time with this video.
JaredPolin 1 year ago 59
@mateoc15 you are retarded lol
cprrowberry 7 months ago
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This is the worst video about RAW vs JPEG I have ever seen.
Mariosdog 1 year ago
@Mariosdog Thanks for your comment, what were your issues with it? Did you watch the full week of videos that go along with this one clip?
JaredPolin 1 year ago 33
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@JaredPolin No I stopped after watching this one. You can at least start off with some factual information and not trying to associate with film negatives and 4x6 prints which aren't even comparable. Plus I don't understand what the point of blasting a Ken Rockwell dummy with a fire hose has anything to do with this. I'm not a rockwell fan or anything, but at least have some more relevant stuff in your video. And seriously 10 parts? Do you really want to bore people that much?
Mariosdog 1 year ago
@Mariosdog There are plenty of facts in the videos that I created. They were created to go on my web site as a full week series to explain the difference between RAW and JPEG as well as SHOW the differences in examples. It is 10 parts because I answered 10 or 11 different questions people bring up about RAW vs JPEG. The fire hose vs garden hose is making a point about FILE size. I associate with film and 4x6 to make a point most beginners will understand and most understand the association.
JaredPolin 1 year ago 50
@Mariosdog get a life and some psychological help
EamonnDoylePhotoFilm 2 months ago
@JaredPolin Hi I just got my canon 7D, first SLR camera and was wondering, should I start shooting in raw or jpeg. Being a newbie to the whole camera business, I think it would take me ages to learn to tweak the camera for good shots in jpeg, while in raw I could just change most of the stuff on my pc, what's your take on that?
MtGuyful 6 months ago
@MtGuyful so you got a pro body cam as your first camera?
yobmas722 4 months ago
@yobmas722 well, it was sort of a gift, and yeah I got it as my first camera, anything wrong with that?
MtGuyful 4 months ago
@MtGuyful no... i was just askin dude.
yobmas722 4 months ago
@yobmas722 ok cool, it just sounded like "oh you should've gotten one of the entry level cameras like 1000d", but no probs :)
MtGuyful 4 months ago
@MtGuyful how does feel in the hands?? the build quality,size etc?
yobmas722 4 months ago
@yobmas722 Well, it feels very solid and beefy. Very comfy. The grip is quite big, large enough for my medium sized hands. Much better than lower end models such as 550d or 1000d. Well the build quality, you can certainly feel the magnesium alloy casing, it feels very robust, you could probably beat someone up with it haha. Very impressive camera both in terms of ergo and build quality
MtGuyful 4 months ago
@MtGuyful cool.. haha i envy you.. haha you are one lucky guy..
yobmas722 4 months ago
@yobmas722 7d isnt that expensive, you can pick up used one on ebay for some 800 pounds :D
MtGuyful 4 months ago
@MtGuyful for real?
yobmas722 4 months ago
@yobmas722 yea, just search
MtGuyful 4 months ago
Arrested by the ambulance... genius.
menoziinrevoltado 1 year ago 2
Hey Jared great video as always :). Could you please make a video about flashes in the future? BTW....I SHOOT RAWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!! :P
Giorgosm10 1 year ago
Loved this video, well i mainly loved the strong force from the hose
choclateswirl 1 year ago
My word, the mannequin reminds me of images of hippies getting blasted by fire hoses in the 60's.
Great episode. Can't wait to see what's next. :)
sgtjlopez 1 year ago
Polin i just got the shirt in today. nice thanks man!!!
tony77tony77 1 year ago
Oh man! I don't understand why people have such a hard time getting this. I would think it would help if you shoot the same thing with both and do an ultimate zoom side by side on one of the smaller objects. Also show the extra features like lens warp correction, and the sharpen and how much things can be corrected. The JPEG is clearly square pixels, whereas the RAW is more like pixels, dots of color. Also, a way I look at it, working from raw, it is like it builds the color off of black,(CONT.)
TOPHERHARPER 1 year ago
@TOPHERHARPER Whereas JPEG collects all the color and takes the best version on your presets and records it. No going back. So, if things are underexposed, you are painting over top of the files original best guess. My fav part is boosting the fill light, You can really balance out your photo. RAW! In studio setting where you control the light, JPEG is fine, anything else RAW makes a huge difference!
TOPHERHARPER 1 year ago
i Shoot RAW
Bader88 1 year ago
ooh shot to the mannequin balls!
dombower 1 year ago
Seriously.. what's with the mannequin?
As for RAW, enlarging it is no different than enlarging a JPEG of the same size. Pixels are still the same (other than that RAW has more data stored per pixel which should have no effect on enlargement whatsoever), and since RAW is interpreted as pixel data, it acts the same way as any JPEG when being enlarged, and that is loss of detail. So as far as I am concerned you can't really compare enlargement of RAW vs JPEG to film negative vs print.
w0ble 1 year ago
@w0ble Where it comes in handy when enlarging a RAW from a JPEG is that if your jpeg has changes that were made such as over sharpening in the original file as you go huge 40x60 those type of artifacts become more noticeable than in the RAW file which when your enlarging the exported JPEG as you are right, you make the sharpening changes when you get to the final size.
Thanks for the feedback!!!!
JaredPolin 1 year ago
@JaredPolin True about that. But if you work in a non-destructive environment like LR then it doesn't really matter. You still export in the end and retain your original file with all the settings.
Don't get me wrong though, I do shoot RAW but mainly because it contains assload of data to play with in post.
w0ble 1 year ago
@w0ble I agree. Most edits are in post and all in lr3 so we ate non destructive. Thanks again for your feedback.
JaredPolin 1 year ago
It's great that you started making vids about Raw files, because I just bought myself a camera and I have no idea how everything works and this is a good start ! I'm a graphic designer trying to learn how to take my own pictures ! So thanks for these great videos !
sushi2889 1 year ago