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  • I could live with that 0.1second slower time with all the extra fun I'm getting from RWD car :) And how about practicality? Boot space, and ie. turning circle? This is a city car after all..

  • I think I'm wanting a Golf R32.

  • they must crash alot of cars on fifth gear judging by the amount of mud on those cars

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  • Love the new 1 series coupe's look.. But this old hatchback version looks unbalanced and weird.

  • Every video where I see the golf win, its always the drivers fault huh?

  • golf 5 is the most beautiful golf ever

  • the new Bmw 1 M is sooooo beautiful !!!

  • R32 Mk5 for sale... check PistonHeads near postcode LS23

  • Bmw = Freude am Fahren = The Ultimate Driving Machine

  • @advanqamili BMW = blue man's willy

  • The Golf R32 looks better, Sounds a million times better, handles better and is cheaper you would be mad to buy the bmw.

  • Pussy can't drive RWD!

  • @ThePhiltastic haha ur a joke , go learn about Tiff

  • @z8 machine

    Dream on Doris... 3.3-3.9s 0-60mph

    4 inch downpipe on an N/A... A reduction so great in back-pressure would result in an almighty flat spot between 1500-2500 rpm.

    Stick to what you know, you love BMW... Don't waste your time trying to convert others to do the same, you'll end up sounding like the vtec generation.

  • @plumber60

    135's are running above 400hp for a few hundred dollars in turbo rechipping. BMW will do it for you and still honor the warranty for more money. A hopped up 135 will turn in about 3.7 secs 0-60, with no gear change required.

  • @n100nty

    Same driver, same track, same weather & both cars wearing standard issue tyres...

    And it was one 10th (0m 00.10s) between the cars at the end, not ten seconds. If you pay attention you will see the superimposed golf at the end ;)

  • bmw is a better car;)

  • the BMW looks far better and superior

    its not behind the golf by 10 seconds,. it is the diver who is slow by 10 seconds.... wake up...

  • @n100tey ... It's the same driver in both cars... And where did 10 seconds come from?

  • @n100tey its not about how the car looks.

  • BMW looks better

  • The Golf is a straight up BEAST 250bhp fuuuuuck

  • now lets try them on snow

  • now lets try them on snow!

  • VW R32 is much better car. looks better, drives better, 4wd, and the most important its MUCH better build quality.

  • One other thing... the 135i really has a 404hp engine, detuned to 300. For around $2500 you can have your BMW dealer dial it up for you without affecting the factory warranty. Add a $700 4" down pipe, and your in the mid-11s through the quarter mile and the mid-to-high 3s to 60.

    Bottom line: DO NOT race a 135i, anything could be hiding under that hood.

  • @z8machine one improtant thing tho! in europe no one cares for one mile drag.

  • @z8machine lol@3's to 60!! What are you smoking?! Send some my way you nutter!

  • thats helped me decide which car to buy for driving up and down the motorway all day....

  • Golf 4 life

    Thumps up if you agree!

  • hey guys im new to this sport cars thing but my bro has a R32 just like the one on the video same color but his is a 04...

    but i have a question do all the R32's come with bi turbo or no?

  • I JUST DROVE AN R32 AND THE EXPERIENCE WAS SO AMAZING I FEEL IN LOVE IM GETTING 1 WHEN I HAVE THE MONEY

  • lol the r32 vs bmw and the bmw is the best

    what about de serie 1 M

  • I drive a 1 series and that 130i is so haggard I want the VeeDub to win.

  • 246 HORSEPOWER! HOLY SHIT!

  • I see an in-lift. Jesus, 28,000 pounds and they don't have the decency to put on a limited-slip differential.

    The R32 is awesome, though.

  • these shows should dedicate 10mins evry show just to sound. no talking

    (sometimes it better to have a fun car rather than one thats a 10th second quicker like how many buyers are goin to be experienced racers an how many roads in the UK are like race tracks?

  • I always have given credit, where credit is due...Id never say neither of these companies make "crappy" cars, because they dont (their crappy cars were history in the mid-90's) All cars that has been cranked out from about a decade ago has been great and its only getting better as technology advances. The R32 is a fantastic car but hindered by a lack of a 3rd pedal, is kinda chubby in the weight department too. The BMW is well a BMW, made to be driven, silky smooth inline6 and RWD make it better

  • Nigga33dikka you're an idiot....

  • Your gay dude get over ur self

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  • What's the music at 2:43?

  • Hmmm not so clear here about the BMW timing. It seems to me nothing was said about the timing of the BMW if it was considered with 360 donut the guy did??? If it is with that done, then the BMW is a tad faster.

  • @greeklander he said he wanted to have a little fun first.... then he was doing the timing

  • rwd FTW!!

  • wheres the 135i??

  • @CoonBabble

    the 135i doesn't exist in a hatchback, only in coupé and cabrio

  • @Criitical

    in america

  • @Criitical The coupe and cabriolet are the only ones available in the states, they have a wagon in Europe.

    

  • i wish the mk6 gti had awd

  • @nelson4568 this was not a gti, it was r32

    there is golf mk6 r20 with awd

  • @Areoplane7 we wont see the r20 here in america till summer of 2011, i just wish that vw made a base 2.0 gti with awd cause i do a lot of commuting and a few weeks out of the year its snowing

  • @nelson4568 w8 what? you dont have 4motion system on standard golfs?

    in croatia there is a 4motion option on 2.0 tdi, but in other countries 4motion is an option on some petrol engines as well..

    if you in america dont have 4motion option then i dont understand vw at all.

  • @Areoplane7 i didnt even know they made them like that or had options in other countries like that....we dont have that option here, if we want awd or 4wd we have to get an r32, or wait for the r20 to come out.....a lot of it has to do with the epa standards i guess...people in this country think 4wd is going to kill the environment lol

  • i would cut off my finger to my hands on a Golf R32

  • They're German so they will be overpriced, expensive to repair, dull and flabby. German cars maybe well made and good quality but to be honest they are becoming abit of a rip off. All cars have good reliability these days.

  • @Englandforever91

    Maybe you should get a MG Rover dummy. Oh no that BRITISH car company went broke and is now sold as Chinese crap called Roewe.

    Meanwhile "BMW Group Announces Record Global Sales In November 2011"...

    Overpriced? You are just "rationalizing" the fact that you and many poor wankers like you can't afford nice German cars.

  • who would win a race between this Mr. and Vin DIesel in fast and furious? Bouth of them driving a golf r32

  • I hv an R32 my gf has a BMW 1.30 both cars are amazing but I prefer the R32

  • i wonder how the test will ends with the Golf R32 vs. BMW 135i

  • Driving in the wet, AWD will always win, you didnt need a tst to figure that one out genious. It amazes me how journalists just completely ignore these things all the time. The BMW would have smoked that R32 under normal track conditions.

  • Well as i read these comments , i'm a bit dissapointed in some..

    BMW's are nice cars , just as the vw's are ..but for a very different public .

    Atleast have some respect for eachother .

    And last but not least , how can you say bad things about a car , when you've not driven them !?

    Anyone who has driven both of these cars will tell you these are both very different cars , both very well constructed , both have track-credibility aswell as good on daily-basis .

  • I'm not sure you quite understand what this street term of rice came about, it has nothing to do with performance parts. A riced out civic could not possibly win a drag or circuit race with a z4 or a boxter because the closest to a performance part is has is probably an exhaust system not right for the car that shoots diarhea out the back.

  • My father owns a 2009 BMW 1 Series. It is a fantastic car !

  • BMW's are a wankers car. Its for tossers that love to show off. Nothing more, nothing less. VW are subtle and refined, you don't need all the attention because you, much like the car, are not up yourself.

  • @stasikisthebest no, i dissagree. while the one series hot hatch is a pointless and stupid idea, and the other cars are overpriced, the 135i coupe is just exquisite

  • @stasikisthebest so VW is for old people ... is that what your trying to say. :] and what you sayed about BMW owner i could not speak for everyone but i know in not like you say it is , im 21 and i do not trash around , showing off , burning doughnuts and shit, i just love my car the looks, the sound, thebrand ... i dont wanto show off or anything , so next time you say something speak for your self , not the majority

  • Bmw lost on wet surface that's all, bmw is a race car born for circuits, vw is a more all days car but with performances near the better bmw.

  • It doesnt matter: Its still a Volkswagon... and the Beemer, well, its a Beemer.

    Its like all those riced out Civics. Yeah... it will beat a Boxter, or a Z3 fine, but its still a Civic = No street cred

  • BMW > VW but bmw has no chance at making a hatch faster than vw. but in my opinion rwd hatchback = :D

  • Why do you say that? If they put the 135i motor in the hatch as an option, the R32 would be in the dust.

  • @Cordius true. but all i know is that vw has been making the best overall hatchbacks since forever.

  • Well said

  • The R32 also won on the Top Gear track.

    So lets sum it up:

    R32 is cheaper (by about £4k!), more comfortable, quicker around a track, far more grippy, loads more room inside, it sounds better and it's better looking.

    I know what I'd choose.

  • The exhaust is on the left the smoke is from the right wheel spinning after he hit the dirt right before causing a loss of traction in the same wheel. The other wheel didnt smoke because it maintained traction through the apex of the turn.

  • why does the bmw 3:00 throwing some white smoke

  • just exhaust, and he shihfteddown

  • @bullmore345 The BMW's inside wheel is smoking, even when the outside wheel isn't because the BMW lacks an LSD.

  • wow no shit anyone can make a car fast by putting a v6 in a car that weighs less than my girlfriend. id like to see VW make a full size car

  • thats whats audi for...

    but still vw pheaton

  • are you stupid? off course is that simples.... than why bmw make that too? oh and it seems that the interior has more room and more quality than the bmw. VW has the VW Phaeton in case you don't know...

  • haha BRienecker, the R32 weighs over 1500kg which is the weight of your standard saloon. I'd say it's about as full of a car as cars can get.

    and just coz it has a V6 doesnt make it quick. acceleration is dependant on the bhp/weight ratio as opposed to bhp alone.

  • @BRienecker they do... its called the vw cc or the pheaton... do your research

  • wait, what?

  • Your girlfriend weighs 1500kg? Holy crap dude, I respect you.

  • Bottom Line is you're getting a car that costs 3k less that performs better. You can say the 135i would destroy it, which it would, but it costs a HELL OF A LOT more than the R32. Either way I'm a purist and I don't dig on the '08 R32. My '04 would kick it's ass sans DSG.

  • OMG R32 :O I just came!

  • i love both car, but i think i would choose for the BMW

  • Got a 120d and a golf V 2.0tdi... love booth

  • OK, the cheaper Golf won, but try this race in the rain and the Golf would mince the bimmer. Also get a Golf with the even quicker DSG box and beat the BMW by an even bigger margin.

    As for fun, the Golf is immense, 4wd so you can use the power safely in more conditions + suspension is excellent, steering gives great feedback and exhaust note is so addictive.

    Also check out Clarksons 5* review of the golf in the Times.

    And @BBestkiller "VW is for girls" - in this case BMW is for loosers!

  • Vw is for 4 girls! Bmw rullz, fun is an important thing when we are driving...

  • The golf is really better

    much better looking and cheaper,,, sience it is a 4 wheel drive, it must be more stable at corners and rounds

  • you know tiff is really a good driver

  • Tiff is straight unlike topgear and their love of Jags

  • Wow look. Another car video I can't care about because America is too lame to have a BMW hatchback.

  • the car sucks though, it has no space in the back and no space in the trunk, it's a pointless hatchback. that said, i love the way it drives and i actually like the looks.

    if i could buy a 300 bhp rear wheel drive hot hatch, i would.

  • get a ford focus rs then that has 307 bhp...

  • also not in america, and i'd rather have a 306 bhp rear wheel drive hot hatch bmw than a 307 bhp front wheel drive ford.

  • you can buy it in Mexico and take it 2 US, that's what my friend did with a peugeot 206cc 3 yers ago

  • he must have been pretty stupid and blind to buy one of those. no offence. but its a horrible car!!

  • whic his expensive? that is the best! sorry but if u go to a plce wit ha VW car , u will be look like a tradational, regular guy. but if u drive a BMW 1 to that place, people will look at u and u will look cool and rich. not as poor as golf.

  • AND with the M-sport suspension the beemer would have been even closer to the victory. But, tif u could choose between the 130 and the R32, i doubt many had gone for the Golf..

  • Ha ha ha you are all a bunch of babys. The bmw would have won if he was driving, or if you did this och that to it ha ha ha!! Just face it THE BMW LOST!!!!

  • you are perfectly right Nille101. The BMW lost..

    Though it has RWD, more horse powers, higher price and the overall claim of BMW to develope sporty cars right from the beginning whereas a golf is a golf.

    pretty embarrassing methinks

  • well, first the BMW lost by an small difference, rwd is not precisely an advantage if the oponent is an awd, Golf has a bigger engine and therefore more torque and besides, which one is supposed to be sportier? its obvious that the R32, just for the looks you can tell that the Golf is an sporty model, while the 130i is really not that different from any other 1er

  • its the M sport version. thats as sporty as the BMW will get unless u consider the lightwieght m3 CSL but that has no stereo or luxury so its not really the same class. the BM will have its fun times but the golf is a better allrounder. thats why i have one :) dno where ur from but in the UK it rains a lot and you can drive with a lot more... errrm.... spirit in the AWD golf than the RWD BMW. the new golf R is coming. omg gimmie one!!

  • The wet conditions gave the BMW a slight disadvantage, I would be very interested to see what the result would have been had that been a dry day, all that extra traction and in bad conditions it was only slightly faster.

  • obvs not LMAO

  • what? the 135i will certainly destory any other hatch back...

  • oooh sorrry. i did not realise what silly mistake to occur. im soo posh my heads so far up my arse. good bye fello people.

  • oooh yeah and its spelt destroy lmao

  • I think you'll find that if you look at my other post, I spell it right. Oh, yeah and "its" spelt "it's". LMAO. ^_-

  • it wont destroy everything by a long way fella lol and it wasnt out then either ;)

    it IS faster than a stock r32 though that might be something to do with a turbo strapped to it ;)

  • @strathpol They timed a top spec BMW 1 series against a Golf R32 on Top Gear about 5 years ago. The Golf was over a second faster... Clarkson actually said the BMW was more fun on a track but the Golf R32 "Hammered it" everywhere else.

  • @JayRicci7891 And why do you buy a fast car? To have fun or to cut of 1 sec on a track? I know why I bought my 135ia Coupé anyway

  • @strathpol there was no 135i on this model. The 135i was released as 2009 model in 2008. Tiff is testing the 2006-07 models, which makes it a fair comparison...Yes, the 135i will destroy the R32 (305hbp vs 250hbp), but the BMW needs to be in the hands of very very very sharp and skilled driver, while the R32 can be fast as hell with an average driver behind the wheel...that's the beauty of the R32...in my opinion...

  • @strathpol

    Before you call it unfair, consider the prices ranges, the 135i is well outside of the comparison price range.

  • @strathpol Except the top spec Golf. And how is it not fair???

  • BMW el mejorrrrrrrrr I love

  • boring review

  • Put an LSD and a camber plates in the 1er and the golf will be out!

    BMW 130i is not set for the maximum performance in the street and track.. but with a little upgrade it will be a supercar.

  • wheres stig when u need him!! My 120D 1 series wipes out the Golf 2.0 TDI!

  • BMW's kick ass... if a BMW fan was driving the 1 series here it would have kicked ass

    this guy favors VW's and he rigged the race

  • Thats bollocks, he used to drive a bmw touring car ffs!

  • and btw this engine with a lower raised power won many endurance test and Golf 5 engines broke down very fast.

  • WASTAGE steering wheel on the wrong side

    SORRY GB ....ur right steering wheel sucks soooo much..

    German cars , german manufacturing and german pride ;)

    let off your fingers of our cars :D

  • i Love R32 its an amazing car

  • r32 is sooo much better, sounds great, looks great inside and out, handles great, spacious. regardless of speed and time. BMW sucks when it comes to hot hatch's, M3 is the best one that's it.

  • Haha, as to the inside/outside the R32 is boring as its manufacturer's name, "FOLKSwagen". BMW will always be better. The Golf got no style, no image, no prestige. BMW 1 Series got all of that.

    BMW POWER !!!

  • haha :-D

    r32 has 0.2 litres more enginevolume (the 135 actually has only 3 litres) but the BMW has 56hp and 80nm more power and torque. Also the BMW takes less petrol, but Í think nobody here cares. The only advantage of R32 is price, because it's about 6000€ cheaper and lighter, despite it has 4WD (which just wastes power at these size of engines after crossing 40mph).. Now honestly tell me, that Golf R32 is the better car. BMW-engineers are really ones of the best or THE best.

  • bmw should win if jason was there bmw would win

  • I never thought BMW 1 series would be a decent challenger to the Golf... The 3 series on the other hand, always seemed like the challenger for Golf.

  • I think, BMW's exterior design is much better comparing these two cars.

    There are at least two reasons to love Germany: Lufthansa and German cars. Germany, I love you!

  • bmw should have won but he likes Volkswagen more

  • not fare

  • The golf the best

  • pff...

  • i think BMW is better

    think TOp GEar is a bit better

    golf sound like a nissan 350 z

  • i love the 350z sound but yeah id take the beemer

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  • imo VW could have squeezed more hp outta the R32. The GTI produces ~200bhp and that's from a 2.0l straight 4 cylinder. With the added weight of the 3.2 in this one, 250bhp just isn't quick enough for the price tag.

    Just my thoughts :)

  • I'm sorry sir boom, but if you were actually looking to BUY one of these cars, fifth gear is much better than top gear. Tiff and the blonde chick (sorry-forgot her name) are actual race drivers. They can actually drive the cars to the limit and tell you what it''ll do there. All fifth gear has is a fattie saying POWER, and a shortie who used to blow up trailers. The Stig can drive, but he doesn't tell you what it's like to dive, does he.

  • or she, who knows?

  • or she, who knows?

  • you're right, but that's not the reason why we watch top gear so fanatically is it ? It's the humour that makes it so popular, while fifth gear is a more strict car reviewing programme. I watch top gear to entertain myself, and fifth gear for the knowledge, as i think many others do

  • Dead on fella. I got my 350z on the good reviews from 5th gear, not the ripping that clarkson gave it (which he had to suck back on when top gear magazine voted it their car of the year in its category) 5th gear for serious reviews. Top Gear for entertainment value!

  • @veldringr Yeah your right in what you saying but I do think fith gear miss alot of vital bad points. Atleast Clarkson picks the bad points which is one good thing I can see about top gear even if he does turn it into a joke.

  • This show is so bad compared to Top Gear!

  • vw any day

  • me quedo con el r 32 =)

  • the BMW shown in the video is a pre-facelift. the newer version looks pretty good actually. so does the new golf

  • it's not the design so much as the type of car. The 5 door boxy look isn't popular here. I love the coupe & convertible. The 5 door is just UGLY.

  • Yeah, like the Americans know about car style!

  • Well you drive those 4 door shoe boxes. BMW can send a 335i convertible over here for me. We used to have them too. They didn't sell, because they were ugly and anyone needing that utility buys something larger. We pay about 1/3 what you do for fuel over here, so we don't drive diesels or shoe boxes. We DO like BMW & VW for their quality & performance.  It's a different market, get over it.

  • both are sweet cars, but i gotta show love to my v-dubs!

  • agreed there... not as into the mk5s as much as mk4s but still... its a beautiful... elegant... VDUB

  • god damn whats the song in background (at the begininng 0m:19s)

  • r32 is one of the best sounding cars on the roads.

    apart from sti's evo's.

    and the best sounding growl out there...merc c63 amg

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  • what about the ASTON MARTIN V8 or the AUDI R8?

  • sti's and evo's r for chavs

  • "chavs"... grow up

  • that is VW R32 because look at the lamp and VW logo in the grill :) BMW is speedy car and have nice engine but BETA have running backside :)

  • i saw an r32 the other day.. i have to say it sounds sick!

  • aww how cute,

    vw still wishes it was bmw:)

  • Tiff Needell is a beast at driving, totally awesome

  • 1 series look like a really really small version of X3... :P

  • what series was this from?

  • wet and mudy... try a sunny day

  • lame, dont upload a car video in widescreen then have it play in normal aspect ratio. everything is bunched up

  • That's a crap. BMW should have been better than Golf (gulf)

  • bmw!! forever!!!

  • I have had mine for a year now and I love it. I take mine to french twisty Alpine roads for skiing and I must say it loves playing in the snow.

    If anyone considering buying one, just buy it! You'll never regret it!