Marcel Duchamp - Anemic Cinema

[Saskatchewan00]

This goes so much better with "Roller Coaster" by the 13th Floor Elevators.

[MichaelHansenFUN]

what dvd did you get this from?

[TheCaillard]

La musique est composé et interprété par Donald Sosin.

Donald Sosin et Joanna Seaton proposent et interprètent des musiques pour les films silencieux.

Leur site: silent-film-music (Youtube refuse les hyperliens dans les commentaires...)

Important:

A l'origine, la projection de Anemic Cinema était silencieux!

[rosemonfort]

Esquivons les ecchymoses des Esquimaux aux mots exquis.

[Babintone]

I love. ♥

[PorroFirst]

Great - thanks for sharing

[castoni2]

I keep playing this over and over and over and over and over. I don't know why!!!!

[AntoineBoy]

@castoni2 Hypnosis

[cataleo1]

Non c'è alcuna correlazione, né affinità, tra musica e immagini. Voto per la scelta del sonoro: 2

[mikarapeyoureyes]

is this the whole film? someone knows whre to find the torrent of it

[FromTartu]

would reccomend this /watch?v=NUqnPYwoiF4&feature=r­elated

[FromTartu]

this song dosent fit here at all

[selshaffei]

what song is this?

[BloodedKnife]

@selshaffei nobady knows what song is it?

[bruniquel]

@BloodedKnife Duchamp made this a silent film.

[entityforeclosure]

@selshaffei s'il vous plait,

mute is so much better

bain donc

[bernhardsart]

@selshaffei It's Explosions in the Sky!!!! Don't know the title of the song off-hand.

[may3764]

me encantaría con subtítulos en spanish... pero igual, es muy bueno, me encanta el DADA!!!

[gianbiv]

"Rrose Sélavy", così firmò il suo corto Marcel, con un gioco di parole su "Eros, c'est la vie", e con un altro anagramma creò il titolo: anémic=cinéma. In maniera provocatoria e ludica rompeva con il concetto tradizionale di cinema come arte visiva e narrativa : il suo è un cinema assolutamente libero, slegato dal senso, che pone il caso e l'immaginazione alla base della creazione artistica, in linea con le idee dissacratorie delle avanguardie artistiche, specie Dada. Ma la musica??Di chi è?

[kapone10zx]

@gianbiv di John Cage

[saturamente]

@gianbiv:@gianbiv : veramente su una cosa devo contraddirti,Rrose Sèlavy non riguarda per niente la firma del primo corto di Marcel, perchè l'opera in discussione si riferisce ad una foto, dove Duchamp è ritratto in vesti femminili,dalla la foto emergono elementi importanti, le mani non sono le sue ma bensì della moglie di PICABIA', e la foto è stata appunto scattata da PICABIA', come gli stessi vestiti che indossa sono della moglie dello stesso. E' una foto dedicata appunto all'eros per la vita

[vondelpark1973]

"DADA speaks with you, it is everything, it envelops everything, it belongs to every religion, can be neither victory or defeat, it lives in space and not in time."

(Francis Picabia)

[acida17]

Magnifique!

[argver]

I want to see so idertsing expermental videos of present days

[NicleT]

... Copyrighted by Rrose Sélavy

en(dot)wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/­Rrose_Sélavy

[dgivy]

I am in love with this video! It is so fascinating. I think the music goes perfectly...it gives one the feeling of anticipation. I wish I could read what those lines said though...is it translated anywhere?

[calumrb22]

@dgivy the words mean nothing really. when translated the words dont make sense in their own sentences and dont relate to any of the other lines

[FourteenInTheMAking]

@dgivy I am a francophone and I cannot translate the lines. Duchamp played on the double sense of words. For example, at 5:48, ''Moi j'avais l'habite en spirale'' could be translated as ''Myself, I had the lives in spiral'', which makes no sense, even in French. The play on words suggests that he had '' la bite en spirale '' (so, his dick in spiral). You can translate the one at 5:19 by (the following comment)

[dgivy]

@FourteenInTheMAking

Thank you so much for taking the time to respond to my inquiry! This clip is terribly interesting...I am sure it was thoroughly enjoyed in it's time, and still holds a certain trippy simplicity today. I like both versions of your translation. I could see that ''Myself, I had the lives in spiral'' could take on many poetic meanings. Then again, so could "La bite en spirale" I suppose :) Again, let me thank you...your translation enhanced this video enormously!

[FourteenInTheMAking]

@dgivy 5:19 = '' Among our articles of lazy hardware, we recommend the faucet that stops flowing when you don't listen to it. ''

[dgivy]

@FourteenInTheMAking

Thank you so much! I absolutely love the translation! It makes this video so poetic. Cheers!

[seedsacidpsycho]

fanculo..a me la musica piace..



[Nanushkia]

yeah, the music sucks

[Refrescospepito]

The music sucks.

[humbucker08]

Is this the original music? The first couple of bars sound like "Corduroy" by Pearl Jam. I wonder if this was an influence.

[insoporhcp]

as it is called the DVD that has all these videos (movies)?

[MorbosDevilGrinder]

too happy song for a dada work... i think it was better a psychedelic/sperimental song

[Acindinos]

Una de las mejores piezas del siglo XX que los cineticos han sabido muy bien recuoerar, al final la historia siempre pone las cosas en su sitio.

[PereBoniface]

Esquivons les ecchymoses des Esquimaux aux mots exquis

Avez-vous déjà mis la moëlle de l'épée dans le poêle de l'aimée?

Parmi nos articles de quincaillerie par essence, nous recommandons le robinet qui s'arrête de couler quand on ne l'écoute pas

L'aspirant habite Javel et moi j'avais l'habite en spirale

[PereBoniface]

Bains de gros thé pour grains de beauté sans trop de bengué

L'enfant qui tète est un souffleur de chair chaude et n'aime pas le chou-fleur de serre-chaude

Si je te donne un sou, me donneras-tu une paire de ciseaux?

On demande des moustiques domestiques (demi-stock) pour la cure d'azote sur la côte d'azur

Inceste ou passion de famille, à coups trop tirés

[KishoAudioVisual]

It's Marcel ... The Best ... The Greatest ......... The Universe <3333

[alohamaari]

can anybody translate the french texts?

[Sylanze]

@alohamaari Wikipedia does

[LEOSAYSAYS]

@alohamaari Apparently it doesn't translate properly into English, there is an essay on possible multiple meanings online somewhere...can't find the link though sorry. Try searching your question google

[LEOSAYSAYS]

Ace, I love it

[CraterMuffin]

speechless...

[jaseguitar1]

check out this sweet marcel duchamp t shirt!

at red bubble!

[RocketFistband]

what is the song called during this film?

[malvinstar]

♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥

[Egberdien64]

still so inspiring!! especially the music.

[mindi3]

put some subs. haha please I liked but I couldn´t understand at all. sorry . but grate job for the upload .

[LQueb]

Futuristic in the irony. He saw the raise of Hollywood and how it will gangrene cinema.

[Thejohnjackjoe]

art will never die.....

[willyshakur]

Just great!

[Guitarbailey204]

Make you soundtrack bitches, lets see what you got.

[sophocha]

Using chord progressions of the 'Western tradition' (that are highly symbolistic) in a Futuristic film that is highly anti-developmental, directionless, with absence of contextual relationships is not so smart!Why do you think Satie`s music in Entr'acte fits the film just right?Because the chords SUCCEED each other, they do not PROGRESS.....Read Experimental Music by Michael Nyman.Good stuff!

[G0parra]

@sophocha

I highly doubt this film could be considered futuristic, "highly anti-developmental, directionless, with absence of contextual relationships" it's a precise description of Dada. Even if the futurism worked more often with geometrical figures and visual illusions, it was a very structured art, "ceci n'a queu ni tête".

[dubstar456]

l love marcel duchamp he was so ahead of his time:))

[Sophistaphunk]

the music is perfect, stop complaining like a bunch of pussies.

[prbilger]

Thanks to the uploader. Music is annoying but easily mutable. I can't believe Kino did this!

[textcavation]

Anemic is a good title for this. Sorry, I know this is a classic, and avant garde for the time, but....

[susanitalugano]

what a ugly music nooooooooooo

[beradification]

Much respect to Pierre Pinoncelli for containing the Duchamp religion of fraudulence.

[electronica2014]

es una obra de arte... me encanto :) solo nose que dicen en esos "mensajes" xD! pero en fin una buena y bella obra

[rosiejenny]

Duchamp we miss you

[bartschoenmakers1]

this is a test

[fruhko]

what does the french spirals say?

[beradification]

@fruhko spirals are not french

[Punk13405]

@fruhko it's all puns and alliteration. None of it really makes any sense

[NUDEbox]

great !

[backwoodsgps]

Love Ryan Larkin!!!!!

a Good Canadian!!!!!

great vid!!!

[Huffinearts]

eh!

[SABRENOSE]

Well...we know where the twilight zone got the into from

[aura113]

fascist music that eats the video. it turned this into pop.

[Roopfert]

annoying guitar



[FORD5000solo2001]

I just turn off the sound and listen to 4:33 by John Cage

[mcmanusdown]

@FORD5000solo2001 where can I download a copy?

[SABRENOSE]

@FORD5000solo2001 Ha good one...I cannot believe there are MP3's of it on Ubu

[LENIN990]

@FORD5000solo2001 mate that's so fucked up. im going to try it too...xd

[roparre]

Thanks for this video! I always wanted to see the roto-blades in motion.

But what is it that people that love contemporary art have such bad taste in music? The banal and badly performed guitar cliché-music doesn't go together with it. Duchamp and the music have ompletely different aesthetics.

So I turned of the sound and could enjoy Duchamp

[noisesionoise]

this video is best if you listen merzbow! 4REAL! (I did it)

[pushiwallboy]

Don't you know it's Lou Reed

[animula88]

It's better without sound.

[harvardkarbodie]

I second, or third, the motion to turn the music off when watching this. I'm shocked that Kino would add a soundtrack to it. The reason to turn off the soundtrack is not whether you like the music or not. It's pleasant enough. But do you go to the Louvre to look at the Mona Lisa wearing earbuds listening to Leo Kottke? If there were sound available in 1926, Duchamp *MIGHT* have added sound. But it wouldn't have been this, that's for sure. This is his work and it should be viewed like he made it.

[HammerOvThor]

This is bad. There, I said it. I'm not intellectual enough to understand the delicate beauty of black and white circles with French shit written on them turning around. I'll never be as intelligent as you people. I hope this makes you feel better about yourselves; that seems to be the only purpose the avantgarde serves.

[Marenqo]

@HammerOvThor

y.a.w.n.

[HammerOvThor]

Indeed, my friend.

[dominustecum]

horrible music.

[Fapsamup]

Who permited himself to rape this experimental film with this awful music?

Adding or changing content from an audio visual work is illegal. Please delete this music or charges will be proceeded against you.

[mrratigan]

I agree, but this is the music provided on the Avant Garde Cinema of the 20's & 30's DVD release. If you have a problem contact Kino Video or turn off the sound.

[supravista]

@mrratigan nah, I'd rather complain here.

[HammerOvThor]

Who's going to press charges? You?

[burroreloaded81]

Cual es el nombre de la canción?? whats the name of the song?

[librestlaliberte]

Imagines que ce cercle, ces cercles, soient toi, tes expériences, et ta vie.

Retour incessant vers le point de départ, vers ton essence.

(Inspirated by Hegel and Simon)

[PabloPlacebo]

it looks much like if it was made with a computer, although computers did not even exist in 1920's

[Xcokedav096]

the music does not suck. maybe i'm too used to it?

[Ioveasy]

omg 1920s.

[Metamusik]

Nice, but I must say I prefer the installations, colour really adds to this piece. I think what's interesting about this piece and it's related installations, when it's compared to Duchamps more famous work, is that it's so aesthetically pleasing. Personally I find it quite fulfilling to know Duchamp wasn't all ready-mades, chess and stubborn disinterest.

[RanitayUvita]

Ah! solo puedo pensar en una sola persona... Bonito, bonito.

[nathen607]

real facsinating film! fond of it just like the computer generated art today! love Duchamp

[MrFishus]

Who the hell added the goddamn music!?

[FuriousEggs]

It's the soundtrack that comes with the DVD.

[MrFishus]

FOR SHAME!!!

[MrFishus]

well... I guess its not too hard to hit the mute button.

[expatleanie]

@MrFishus oh I am sure that's what people from the 11th century would ask you about ur ttaste in music.

[expatleanie]

@MrFishus oh I am sure that's what people from the 11th century would ask you about ur ttaste in music.and to me this ok .pretty much what you hear from bands these days and for my generation this would be considered golden oldies or old school.have a nice day :)

[MrFishus]

@expatleanie Thankyou. For bringing up a valid and sound point. However, it is Irrelevant and has nothing to do with my previous statement.

This has nothing to do with my taste in music, but the fact that this is a visual work of art, originally created with no sound.

The fact that it is being spliced with someone else than the creator's music diminishes its value.

Also, the music doen't seem to correlate wit the artist's intentions or style at all.

Still... The mute button isn't far off.

[MrFishus]

@expatleanie Also, I don't think many people in the 11th century listened to music too often, since there was no recording technology as of yet, and peasants were in general too poor to affort musical instruments and/or musical education at the time. Not to mention that they usually died at the age of around 30.

[ThatSArtFolks]

love it

[elliexyzlee]

donald sosin noo

[SUICIDEDEATHCULT]

This music is amazingly bad for this film. I am shocked every time I see this.

[meesterschilders]

placed into my playlist of Marcel Duchamp, thanks

[Odyzea]

This is a film made by Marcel Duchamp, Man Ray and Mare Allégret.

[seanarrative]

this is nice, the sound track goes really well with his work. nice!

[spirmessi]

if you like to see the cinema history watch *BIRTH OF CINEMA* in youtube and enjoy!!

[armeniabaja]

Bien qu'on ne parle pas français, c'est formidable!!! merci beaucoup!!!

[ThomasFMPayne]

Where can I find a translation? I don't read french!

Solomente l'Italiana...

[weirdhotshot]

It's very very difficult to translate what he is saying correctly into any language. I would recommend the essay by Katrina Martin for translating into english, though.

[jturnover]

"Larry Marotta: Silent Movie Soundtracks Vol. 1:

Solo guitar scores for the silent films Anemic Cinema (1926, Marcel Duchamp)".

[sblaney66]

Who performs the background music for this? I would love to hear more of their composistions!

[demainneviendra]

Well, some films had scores that went with them, even if the ACTUAL film was silent. I'm thinking for example of Vertov's Man with a Movie Camera.

[demainneviendra]

The music is contemporary. I would assume that the film was originally a silent film, and for this DVD collection, music was composed...? Would anyone happen to know if there was ever original music?

[mik3la88]

perfect sound!

[gousse111]

And for 1926, this music is just so visionnaire.

Merci Marcel (et Man Ray, très probablement).

[gousse111]

At the risk of disagreeing, I seriously disagree : Ifound it fabulous, the movie as well as the music.

And since when does an artist have to do pieces that fit with his work ?

That's his work, right ? then it fits.

[Iamfoltzy]

Did anyone think to turn the volume.... off?

[Noroxyn]

music sucks!!!!!!

SACRILEGE!!!!!!!

[Liasad]

This music is blasphemous!

[bitachar]

I agree with you. This cliché music doesn't belong to the film. Cage would suit its purpose better

[AnyaInTheBanya]

i saw this film at an art museum, and this is the music that accompanied it.

[transphormetic]

without doubt the music is wrong. The duchamp piece is amazing. The music leads it astray and renders it meaningless by virtual. This video should be removed as it totally confuses the essence of duchamps work.

[martindishwater]

thanks for posting this but the music really is WRONG!

[praqmelissa]

nice video, but the music really sucks :P

[bddgm]

music sucks

[azulo65]

Very nice...

[andresgualdron]

Don't like the music.

[Wolfchapman]

you could have added smth like...

Cinema Strange ..

that fits even the title *.*

or even a smth classical...

nice vid ..^.^

[KENKENNIFF]

The electric guitar was a respose to the aestehtic desires expressed by these artists, it apt.

[shazam99]

Really? I think it's wholly incompatible.

[KENKENNIFF]

Why ?

[shazam99]

Firstly if you've posted this - thankyou

Regarding the music, well the film is from 1926, and I feel it deserves something more macabre opposed to the folky meanderings of the guitarist. Just my opinion that's all.

[glun]

I agree. Some John Cage, Schaeffer, or even one of Duchamp's pieces.

[still210]

I really enjoy the music..its pretty!

[DeathShamans]

music doesn't go with it.

[chitantubouchi]

ありがとう。thank you.

[kidfromkibble]

I think the music is interesting and should definitely not be taken away, especially when there is a mute button and several other versions without music. In a sense, what we have here is editing which displays exactly how much music effects film. This is a new reading of this film, focusing on the simple repetitive beauty of Anemic Cinema, highlighted by the repetitive music. It may not display Duchamps original intentions but neither does, arguably, reading Hamlet in a psychoanalytical manner.

[grasswitharoot]

PLEASE LEAVE SILENT (or at least add some music that would be relevant...based in the time period maybe?)

[NathanSt]

I love the music.

Also the complaining people, too stupid to understand volume controls are hilarious, trite and desperate to find offense where none is intended.

The music is on the Kino DVD "Avant-Garde vol 1" that this film was stolen from.

[benmeyk]

destroying a beautifully subtle artwork by adding super banal music, that has no relation to the piece is a really bad thing to do.

[DustinReynaud]

Thank you. Ugh. Let's score a Maya Deren movie with a song by Hootie and the Blowfish!

[ChadSmith1452]

Heartily agreed.

The music is atrociously incommensurate to the content.

[casanovahagfish]

oh my god, you guys are awesome. I love you. XD

[akeefe]

Absolutly, what is it with people these days, they have to add some rediculous Indie to everything.

[jehouse]

@benmeyk

THANK YOU!

[bartschoenmakers1]

@benmeyk 

[Bayplaces]

@benmeyk yes i really don't know why you couldn't have just muted it and moved on

[LesAus]

i agree with jayro... the music fucks it up.

[jayropinsky]

this film doesn\t need any music, especially not one, which would add a kitch type of sentiment.

[EDRJHBREUYFHREBUYF]

questi film me li hanno fatti vedere a lezione all'università, però le musiche erano diverse.

[shidolionheart]

Perchè questi film eran muti, la musika viene aggiunta adesso per questioni visive. Ma dovrebbero essere muti.

[EDRJHBREUYFHREBUYF]

allora anche i film spagnoli surrealisti come un chien andalou...

[shidolionheart]

Yeeessss :)

[EDRJHBREUYFHREBUYF]

fai cinema anche tu come me per caso?

[EDRJHBREUYFHREBUYF]

scusa ho guardato il tuo canale adesso, nn sapevo fossi uno dei cosidetti channel...ti ho fatto una domanda un po sciocca prima...

[shidolionheart]

Non fa nulla, cmq non studio cinema nello specifico, ma all'università stiamo studiando il futurismo cinematico e qui rientrano questi film d'avanguardia ;)

[EDRJHBREUYFHREBUYF]

be divertitevi! io ho un debole per queste cose, le ho fatte quando ho studiato al primo anno il cinema delle origini, e abbiamo trattato anche il cinema d'arte o delle avanguardie.

[shidolionheart]

ok grazie. In effetti sono parecchio interessanti :)