They do have a reason to believe in God. They don't want to go to hell. Just because it is an unfounded, unlikely, and unprovable reason doesn't mean it's not a reason. I'm surprised you haven't gone completely viral with as many people as you've completely and utterly offended. I love your calm and cool demeanor. It makes anybody who claims that your being rude and insulting their beliefs appear as ignorant fools. See you in Hell.
Will you shut the fuck up! you fucking ugly ass tranny! FUCK! all you do is ramble, read off your pc and you sound like a bull dyke on crystal meth! FUCK!
@LeProutski would have been fine if it wasn't this freak of nature reading a fucking 10 minute bull shit explanation off "it's" computer. its fucking annoying.
@LeProutski actually if he's a typical internet troll he'll be at his compy for most of the day in which case ZJ givin'm a rise (prob the kind he wants to make believe he dont have, but that my op) might be beneficial to his health as it'll be the only acceleration of blood flow he gets (might have a cardiovascular effect ya neva know!) lol
I'd like to make a correction here... Islam, Christianity, and Judaism share the same origins, and thus they technically believe in the same god. Islam and Christianity do not believe in separate gods.
And yes, I'm an atheist. I just think it's wise to understand your enemy.
It's sad how one of ShockOfGod's followers said that, Atheists are wrong because, without God, events in our lives couldn't take place. That is so farcical. It's all science and choice when God's out of the question. Atheists have reason to be Atheists simply because there is no truly compelling proof God does exist. Believers have reason to be Believers simply because the Bible is supposed to carry only truth. I don't know who's side I'm on. I'm very confused about the existence of God.
ZJ, I would have to argue that individual theists have 'reason' to disbelieve in other gods. If they perceive their god is the only real god, then it speaks to a reason to disbelieve in all other 'false-gods.' Of course there are no real gods, but to say they have no reason to not believe in other gods is different than those of us that disbelieve in all gods. Your point about fairies still applies as they have no reason to believe in them.
Some people claim that the God of the Jews, the God of the Christians and the God of Islam is one and the same God. And back in the days of ancient Rome and Greece people accepted gods of other cultures and some of those gods were also seen as the same. For example: Zeus=Jupiter, Poseidon=Neptunus, etc.
@elijahsama Your silly intention can be easily tackled with a simple search on wikipedia, to know the meaning of the unicorns at ancient times and especialy in the text we are interested in, the Bible. Also see this, on the web "Unicorns in the Bible? - Answers in Genesis"
Some interpreters say that this could be a rhino in Job, as it also has one horn and is untamed.
@elijahsama Unicorns are used as a METAPHORE and not a real creature in the Bible. But one can't exclude the possibility of being a real creature at some point, as so many animals have appeared and disappeared over the centuries and people gave it mythical properties as it was so difficult or imposible to find.
@ToiTMat This doesn't seem consistent. Did unicorns exist or not? We have rare and hard to find animals today. The Bible also speaks of wise giants, angels, sea monsters, satyrs, dragons, cockatrices, demons, witches, talking serpents, zombies, and dragons. There is a clear pattern of mythic creatures and supernatural events. Is it the job of the apologist to explain all of these as metaphors?
@matthewtaylorbrown Track back to the people at that time, and you will understand why the wrote this way. Many of the creatures, I am not saying all, as we can't see what the writer was watching at that time, you are discribing were also in the mind of their writers, symbolic images or meanings. One can understand what the writer was talking about, by reading the ENTIRE text and not a simple convenient abstract. Of course also have knowledge of the culture and history, to make safe assumptions.
@ToiTMat No problem with who wrote the texts, it was man. The resurrection also had a symbolic meaning. These people were writing verbal stories after they became interesting enough (morphed) to be written down. This was Iron Aged man. They didn't even see the immorality of slavery. One must really want to believe these things as some sort of fail-safe to live forever. We all die in the end. Nobody gets out of this alive. Their culture stated a man came back from the dead, but that's realistic?
Forgive my English, I don't know very well. So the first thing I can say about Judaism, Christianity and Islamism, is that the one comes out from the other. This means the three of them basically claim to "believe" in the same God. The main difference is that Christianity recognizes the three faces of one God, not multiple, because God is out of timespace and therefore three can be one because they have no time or space to separate them,
@ToiTMat as for example a human father would from his son, being elder and in another body. Both of them have the human nature to the full but each of them at his timespace. These three faces appear throughout the Old Testament and also there are specific prophecies who talk about a particular person which is called Jesus of Nazareth.
@ToiTMat One could say that the prophecies about this particular person are manufactured. But this could not be, because of the many “mathematical” fulfillments of these prophecies which no group of people, could ever put together.
@ToiTMat And consider the fact that they were hunted for their beliefs and paid them with their blood. Thus this is the main difference between the apocalyptical religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islamism) and all the others.
@ToiTMat This consists on the fact that these religions are very close to the history of the people of these areas who know what happen and can therefore be witnesses to others.
A small example of that is Mark 15:21 where the Evangelist is naming Simon the Cyrenian, father of Alexander and Rufus which is the only person naming his sons who didn’t partake at the scene as known persons. This is clearly to use their names as witnesses to what their father did.
@ToiTMat But the main difference between the three religions is the message they bring. Judaism is based on the Old Testament, which is good, but only as a prestep to the full meaning of the word of God which is the New Testament. Islam on the other hand was an attempt by a political leader, Mohamed, to unite the Arabs as one nation so this is why Islam is more a political movement than a religion.
@ToiTMat One can see this by reading the Quran. Christ did not start, at list in the New Testament is very clear to separate the rolls of the state and religion, a political movement. The difference between Judaism and Christianity is that the Jews are still waiting for the savior. A political savior as they thought He would be. But they misinterpreted the message of Him. He would not be a political leader but a spiritual one.
@ToiTMat That is why they didn’t accept Jesus. We know that Jesus was the one because of the prophecies that are fulfilled and the words which is, in Greek, διαχρονικά. Not simple philosophical ideas but deeply anthropological and theological. Some who studied Neurotheology, tried to explain experiences of religious people as a biological normal function of the brain.
@ToiTMat But a question here, why would there be a need for the brain to have the ability through the medial temporal lobe, as researcher said, to talk to God when there is no obvious reason, as the researcher who said it’s normal, suggested? Humans are electrochemical machines. They understand the world through electrochemical reactions of the brain. The brain does not have anything unnecessary, we use 100%.
@ToiTMat And I’m not talking about those crazy people who advertise to the world that God talked to them, but the people who are humble and say little but do a lot in silence. People you see without telling you anything a different light in their eyes. And when you talk to them you get the same feeling of διαχρονικότητα. These are just a few thoughts I made.
i always wondered how much better off the world would be without religion.... then i think how much worse it would be if the world was full of atheists.... ithink we need religious people to keep a bit of a balance.
I find this video totaly ofensive to compare god to santa claus is absurd. I feel I have been violated and that you have stomped all over my feeling There is a difference between the two and I can proove it! Every Christmas time I write my list and send it to Santa and every year he gives me most of what I ask for. I did ask fo a real light sabre last year though and never got that other wise though I do well.
So stop comparing the Santa to the mythical sky daddy of others imagainations!!!!
@Z3R0MU5 Re am I hung like a tic tac Its not really for me to say but my wife of ten ten years seems to to satisfied. Would you you like to explain the concept of happy marital life to you?I get the feeling that it may be alien to you. But I thought this was a discussion on Santa and and the tooth fairy not my down below area.
@wuntbedruv He might be more easily convinced about the distinctive arguments over the existence of the Gift-giver, aka Santa Claus, after taking a look on this video:
@calsecaz thank you for the link. I can't understand how some people still don't believe in Santa despite the evidence. I think they should show that video in schools, perhaps in science class.
There is one slight difference between the Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy and God. Parent's and the church never told little children that they would burn in hell for eternity if they didn't look for dyed eggs or stuff their teeth under their pillow.
Take away the abusive fear tactics and god melts away faster than a chocolate Easter bunny and proves to be just as hollow.
@eyeammi the parent's wouldn't tell there children that if they didn't believe it for themselves. If they didn't believe it why tell them right? If they believed it and didn't tell them, what would that be?
@iceylittle Granted, If they were truly convinced, it would be justified. However, this says nothing about whether it IS true. Truth does not depend on one's opinion. If the existence of god was accurate, it would be so with or without the concept of heaven or hell as those two ideas are contingent on the existence of said god. However, more often that not, if you take away the concept of heaven & hell, the idea of a god loses it's fear induced credibility regardless of what the parents believe.
@iceylittle More simply put, fear justifies the belief and belief justifies the fear, and so the circle continues. At some point you have to step back and ask yourself, "If my beliefs are going to affect another person, are my beliefs true?" If you allow yourself this honesty, you might be surprised what you'd find.
I'd say that the reason people don't believe in unicorns/pixies/etc., but do believe in God is that God can really hurt you or really help you. So even if there's no evidence, they make a special exception because there's something in it for them.
@ZJemptv Believe it or not the muslims believe in the same fag-hating, ill-tempered god as the one in the bible! It's just a slightly different variation of the same thing. Hinduism believes multitudes of gods. Muslims believe in only one god -this is a spin-off of Judeaism and Christianity. Just as Buddism is a spin-off of Hinduism!
ZJemptv how do you explain, "Adam (Man) Seth (appointed) Enosh (fatal injury), Cainan (the only begotten of the Lord). Mahalalel (Praise God), Jared (he shall descend) Enoch (teaching) Methuselah (through his death communion with the lifted high God). Lamech (For the despairing) Noah (this same will be a Comforter to us here)."
There is the Trinity and the gospel message in Genesis 5 which is prior to the flood and passed down to all humanity by speaking our common ancestry.
The Bible makes a direct assertion to a consequence of not believing in God which becomes a risk to the human life that demands attention. Santa Claus and the tooth fairy only come either bearing gifts or not based on one stipulation. Which is more important, not getting gifts for Christmas or money under the pillow, or spending eternity in hell? If I was doing a risk assessment, which risk would have the greatest impact? Is that reason enough to evaluate? "Fear is the beginning of Wisdom"
@iceylittle I'm making the assertion that if you don't believe in chocolate frosted unicorns you will be sent to SUPERHELL which is like hell, except you get cloned 5 times and you experience hell 5 times over. I'd say you'd better start praying to my unicorns because if I'm right, that's quite a risk you're taking.
@Beanybag2 You know when Jesus first started his ministry, only a few believed him until he rose. You are the first prophet of this Unicornism so you do have something to prove. Will you die for your belief in unicorns? Can you get 12 people to die for your cause after you. Can you change a man from one extreme of living to another. You need witnesses to fill compelled to follow you and write down your sayings. You need history to back you up. Do you have the Gospel of a savior?
@iceylittle Lol, that's a funny reason. Not only the bible, but also quran, dammapada, bhagavad diva, etc etc made the direct assertion about it. What about the RISK of not following the other "holy books"? Of not believing in other gods? Wow! You took many risks... You don't believe in 4999 gods, atheists don't believe in 5000 gods. It's just as simple as that..
@KarinaTubes There's more to a belief than just defining something as a God. My point is that the belief in a god does not derive from a shallow frame of mind. Yet the video asserts that there is no reason to believe. I've just stated one reason. The Bible, Quran, and Jewish text derive from the same God so I am aware of these. I also know of at least 100 other god's and the others do not have a global presence like the God I'm talking about. Lies are forgotten, truth lingers on.
religion is that ppl seriously believe the latter is true, but there is nothing objectively meansurable that makes one myth better than the other, or that makes them different from myths ppl don't believe in anymore, so you shouldn't force yours on others and accept that you can't use them as a valid basis for an argument you want all people to recognize, not just your fellow christians/moslems/etc, because your justofication basically comes down to: "It is that way because I chose to believe it
is". You can chose to believe anything, and everyone else can just chose NOT to believe it. So you've gotta argument with facts which are irrefutably the same for everyone who sees them and can be proven or disproven.
makers thought it looked cool. Yet, people were looking for a Christian meaning in a japanese show, because apparently, they are the center of the universe. To a Japanese person, Christianity is a collection of cool myths. They used it like we use Greek Mythology - the ancient Greek people seriously believed in it, but it's just myth to us. ANY religion is just myth to those who don't believe in it, and all are myths to those who don't believe at all - the only difference between a myth and a
The problem many ppl might have with this argument is that you're comparing it to a silly kid story(Tooth Fairy, etc...) , and they see that as condescending. I'm not saying you're wrong,I'm not religious myself, but telling ppl they're stupid is not going to make them listen to you, and they have to listen to see your point. A comparision I'd use to discribe the same notion is that there is a Japanese Sci-Fi show which uses Christian symbols - not for any Christian meaning, but because its
You all hate God, but reject his existence, by don't believing in God, you believe only in proven facts and reject faith, but the Atheism by it self can't be proven as a fact and actually is faith, then to confirm their insanity they call Christians, people without reason, and themselves call "reasonable people" ... GOD LOVES YOU ALL!
Im 12... My parents belive in god... lol, it makes me laugh yet on the ocassion cry because they try o force me to go to sunday school... BUT I REFUSE! simply stating that "WHATS THE POINT OF WORSHIPING A MAKE BELIEF CHARACTER THAT PEOPLE USE TO EXPLAIN THE UNEXPLAINABLE FALSLY!?) ... remember this is coming from a boy in 7th grade. :D
Im 12... My parents belive in god... lol, it makes me laugh yet on the ocassion cry because they try o force me to go to sunday school... BUT I REFUSE! simply stating that "WHATS THE POINT OF WORSHIPING A MAKE BELIEF CHARACTER THAT PEOPLE USE TO EXPLAIN THE UNEXPLAINABLE FALSLY!?) ... remember this is coming from a boy in 7th grade. :D
Can you still be called an atheist even if you believe that there is someone watching over you? Like a person who was once here but passed away and is now looking over you?
yes, atheism just means the disbelief in gods, that's it. So you can still have other supernatural/superstitious beliefs and remain an atheism (good examples of this; Buddhists and Jainism practices; godless religions that hold beliefs in other supernatural forces)
@tay1164 Yea you can still be called an atheist. Not all atheists hold the same beliefs in everything. The only thing we have in common in general is that we don't believe in any gods.
@tay1164 that is an extremely comforting thought and those who say "you don't get to be in the cool atheist club anymore" most likely havent lost someone important to them.
Thanks! It is, and when I tell people I am they don't believe it at first. They either just do not understand the definition of an atheist or just do not know who I am as a person. But thanks, everyone for clearing it up for me! :)
@petekollie of cource you understand who funny all you said seems. you don't believe in the existance of an invisible to the eye being, for whom hundreds of writers wrote the experience of his actions to their lives, yet you acknowledge the existance beyond death, not just a simple "energy" but something that has awareness. I'm sure you even believe zodiac cycle!!! hahahahaha! you "atheists" are very funny after all!!
@ToiTMat Most atheists disbelieve in any afterlife and anything supernatural. ZJ's beliefs are personal like yours. The only thing we atheists have in common is that we are not theists like you. The comparison of any two things we consider mythical is perfectly valid. You have many things you disbelieve and you are free to compare them as the same. Isis and Santa are both dismissable and comparable as myths. We understand that you don't see it this way or you too would be an atheist.
@matthewtaylorbrown The answer is, that there is a significant amount of proof for the energies of a willing God, not His essence, to those who are not narrow minded, and tend to look at the big picture. In this case, history.
@ToiTMat You want to believe that live and its wonders are proof of what you perceive as a god-creator. Every rainbow and sunset is just more proof for you. It does not make it proof to anyone else. There are no gods.
All religions have found proof that their god is the one true god, this is the way of religions. If one considers that the supernatural is in play in their lives, that is what they will see. The ancient Egyptians were just as convinced.
@ToiTMat Lennox's proposals are all based on the presumption that a god-creator exists. If you listen to his ideas with the notion that there are no gods, he just sounds like a Christian with Christian notions. With that in mind, I didn't find him compelling. I've seen one or more of his videos in the past, he seemed very familiar. To a Christian his message must be very appealing as he basically makes science and creation work together. Things start to break down immediately with a young earth.
@ToiTMat sorry i answer so late but you seem to be confused about what i said and meant - i dont believe in an afterlife at all, once the cells in your brain died due to lack of oxygen the being that was you is no longer there (of course it would be fun to encypher the remember-proteins in the futur postmortem...) zodiac-O are fun to read sometimes but rubbish..
my point was: "Do not pity the dead,[...]Pity the living[...]"- JKR '98
the grieving people need comfort and are allowed to dream a lil
@matthewtaylorbrown (sorry i answer so late but) of course it has nothing to do with each other. still atheist arent machines that say "well mom you were the weakest link - nature has chosen you to die to ensure the well-being of our tribe" after my friends(not religious at all) mother died and talked sobbing in my arms that her mother looks over her - i wouldnt tell her "you now she is just decomposing now, right?"
(but it still is just a comforting thought to make one feel better)
@petekollie I'm not a science-based atheist. Survival of the fittest seems so Draconian; cold. I'm all for offering comfort in time of need. Telling a child they will be with Mom and the rest in the next life creates an expectation and an actual need for it to be true. Instead of addressing riggers and decomposition, it is probably more beneficial to be assuring and comforting. A person can be robbed of this life if they believe there is a better one waiting them when they stop breathing.
@tay1164 There is only one thing that defines an atheist, that is that you are not a theist. It has everything to do with the existence of a god or gods, nothing more. Atheists believe in many things, some believe in some supernatural concepts. One can be an atheist and still believe in ghosts, a heaven, and talking to the dead. Most atheists disbelieve in all or most supernatural concepts, but it is not a requirement.
God created man in his own image. You're comparing all these mythical characters to the creator of creation. For instance, If God was an all powerful unicorn we would all look like unicorns.
@OpenTheB0x So why are people born disfigured and in imperfection when "God" is perfect. I was brought up a christian and im pretty much giving up on the contradictory nature of this "religion"
@RecBookHero: If you are asking if atheists think Christians are wrong, well yes.....and in the same manner that Christians deny other religions. Saying "I don't know" is better than making shit up. The reason for this is because it allows the potential to find the truth versus living in a lie or delusion. I am an atheist because, so far, in my search for the truth of existence I have found nothing to indicate that there is any reason to believe in a god. The day I see proof, I'll reconsider.
@RedheadSmexMonster But arent you the ones who think Christianity is wrong? I mean, if we dont understand the demension we are physically in right now, who is to say you are right in assuming they are wrong? Who is to say a God did not tell someone named Abraham to settle and Isreal and start a chain of events that have since then become three major religeons in the world?
In my opinion, I think Atheism is just as much a religeon as Christianity.
@ILUVSTRAWBERRYFRSTG3 Nah I'll pass. There is no God, I was created when my father gave his sperm to my mother it has nothing to do with mr white cloud man, I learn't this in 5th grade. It's called reproduction. Go back to school and get an education you fucking remroid.
@NANOFORGE You fucking retard! That comment just shows how STUPID you are! God didn't literally conceive humans, he created everyone in the pre existence and when it was your time to be born your parents had you and you were brought to Earth, unfortunately!
@KarinaTubes Such a STUPID question, you people are actually RETARDED! There has to be good and evil in the world, there has to be opposition with everything otherwise there would be no point with anything and life wouldn't be hard at all!
@ILUVSTRAWBERRYFRSTG3 Ok then, it means that ur god designed a hard life for yall. Ur god created devils and all the bad things in the world. Which god anyway? There are plenty of gods out there...
(cont) When one cannot even tackle smaller abstracts such as these, how can you even HOPE to expect science to "prove" the existence OR non-existence of n even LARGER abstract? God is not in a box, so science should stop pretending that He is.
I must admit though, it is amazing how much faith atheists have!!! It is hard to STRICTLY believe in nothing rather than the rest of the world admiring how absolutely mind bogglingly complex our world is and saying the only way is for intelligent design.
You cannot simply deny things for which there is no "scientific proof for" because there are things even on earth that science cannot tackle. Science has its limits. Science cannot prove love, provide the chemical explanation of the exact thoughts I am creating as I write this response, it cannot provide the reasoning of why humans have the capability of rational, forethought, and thinking in the abstract instead of merely responding to stimuli. Science is not everything. (cont)
okay lets be serious. this is an absurd illustration..its not the absence of evidence that we cant prove god, but its that we have good reasonable evidence...thats like saying you cant prove god exist because you cant prove santa doesnt exist. its EVIDENT that some fat guy in a sleigh is NOT flying around the world delivering presents. this is a horrible argument. god can be explained by our objective moral values, the origin of our universe. have you researched intelligent design before???
Comparing the concept of God to the tooth fairy etc. is the most retarted arrogance you could find. Atheists think its funny, but God has been a subject of the most intelligent philosophy in the recent 2000 years (Existentialism, not Thomism) and then you get this literal idiocy. Modern mania.
@mikefromwa "God" is not necessarily an item of evidence. There is no "evidence" in any philosophy. In the discourses of Kierkegaard, Tillich or Tolstoy you can't replace the word "God" in their books with "easter bunny".
No one is stupid enough to think so either. The atheist is being as super-literal as the fundamentalist Christian and surprises me just how amateurish his reasoning (and contagious sarcasm) has become.
@Phavonic: "God is not necessarily an item of evidence."
Whatever. "God" doesn't exist, so it's really pointless to worry about it.
"...surprises me just how amateurish his reasoning"
You want to see "amateurish reasoning", look no further than the bible. It's a textbook example of superstition, amateurish reasoning, and outright lies.
Lol, I just watch shockofgod's video addressing this video. What a failure. All he can do is attack the fact that you used Santa as a comparison. He can't attack the actual content of the argument. In fact, he stops the video before the actual argument so that he doesn't have to.
Then he disables comments and ratings on his videos. Scared of the truth much?
@Hotfrotato Superior to all creatures? How about syphilis bacteria? Spread by the exercise of free will. God outdid himself with that one. Oh, yeah, we can cure it now, but only as the result of scientific research by atheist scientists.
@father042 - furthermore, I'm willing to believe there is life 'out there'; not because of a belief in a God, but because we are here. If we are willing to believe in Aliens, perhaps Aliens are willing to believe in us. Neither are, or will be super natural. They, like us will be subject to the laws of nature, perhaps with technologies to take advantage of those laws. In terms of a belief, I guess mine is that the universe begets Life like an apple tree begets apples.
@father042 in most early peoples' literature and art aliens where very well embeded into it, all of thier literature, while most early societies had different dieties. christianity was started by the romans, and where the only ones who believed in "god" at that time. while all the rest and romans and greeks believes in aliens and said men in ships came down from the heavens and took things or helped build the civilization. aliens are very well more likely to be real than "god", none of the
@father042 ( comment continued ) literature actually said that "god" helped them at all or even played a part in building thier civilization other than creating them, while the aliens did help. there is a carving from the mayan of a man sitting it the position that austronaghts sit it with his foot on a thruster and cords around him, while there is no art of "god" or thier dieties doing what we do now.
She/hes rite about the fact we only believe things if there are good reasons. The thing is there are many good reasons(not scientific evidence) to believe in god. 95% of the world, (including noble prize winners) don't just believe theres a god for no reason. Its not logically sound to compare god to unicorns, santa etc.
Then how is it that the vast majority of scientists, and the intelligentsia, don't believe in any form of god, while the vast majority of prison inmates believe in a god? Could there be a correlation between intelligence, education, and the belief in an imaginary friend?
BTW, if they didn't win a Nobel prize for something that effects religion, the Nobel prize has nothing to do with the discussion.
The logic is fine, voting on the sex of a rabbit doesn't change it's sex.
@rynther "Could there be a correlation between intelligence" This is my point. No, i don;t think there is. The thing with noble prize winners, is that they are at the highest level of intelligence. Their at a much higher level than Dawkins, krauss etc. And the fact that some have been religious and others not, suggests that intelligence doesn't matter. I understand a majority doesn't make it true. Its just many atheists think people believe in a god for no good reason,
They do have a reason to believe in God. They don't want to go to hell. Just because it is an unfounded, unlikely, and unprovable reason doesn't mean it's not a reason. I'm surprised you haven't gone completely viral with as many people as you've completely and utterly offended. I love your calm and cool demeanor. It makes anybody who claims that your being rude and insulting their beliefs appear as ignorant fools. See you in Hell.
ShabookiSkittles 1 day ago
@ShabookiSkittles So what is there reason for believing in hell?
rjhornback13 1 day ago
@rjhornback13 their*
rjhornback13 1 day ago
WHAT? Goblins exist! D:
One lives under my bed. His name is Hobgobber.
NaturallyTheDruid 2 days ago
Did all your emotions get sucked out of your brain when you were little?
HorrorSlasherBLO0d 2 days ago
Shut up Meg.
HorrorSlasherBLO0d 2 days ago
I can...
Volkseichhoernchen11 3 days ago
i understand what you are saying. i tell your arguments are well thought out.
MrBad122 4 days ago
cross dresser?
AkiraDaemon 5 days ago
you are a bit off....
victorisrex313 1 week ago
Are you a girl or a guy? Or neither?
NocteusLucium 3 weeks ago
Will you shut the fuck up! you fucking ugly ass tranny! FUCK! all you do is ramble, read off your pc and you sound like a bull dyke on crystal meth! FUCK!
aloha2010ish 4 weeks ago
@aloha2010ish hahaha u mad bro?
LeProutski 2 weeks ago
@LeProutski would have been fine if it wasn't this freak of nature reading a fucking 10 minute bull shit explanation off "it's" computer. its fucking annoying.
aloha2010ish 2 weeks ago
@aloha2010ish just dont watch it then.... getting all angry like that aint good for your health and its not like your opinion really matters you know
LeProutski 2 weeks ago
@LeProutski actually if he's a typical internet troll he'll be at his compy for most of the day in which case ZJ givin'm a rise (prob the kind he wants to make believe he dont have, but that my op) might be beneficial to his health as it'll be the only acceleration of blood flow he gets (might have a cardiovascular effect ya neva know!) lol
d00m0racl3 2 weeks ago
@aloha2010ish If you don't like ZJ, then why are you here? Trolling?
dagda825 2 weeks ago in playlist Religion
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I'd like to make a correction here... Islam, Christianity, and Judaism share the same origins, and thus they technically believe in the same god. Islam and Christianity do not believe in separate gods.
And yes, I'm an atheist. I just think it's wise to understand your enemy.
OZombieJesus 4 weeks ago
It's sad how one of ShockOfGod's followers said that, Atheists are wrong because, without God, events in our lives couldn't take place. That is so farcical. It's all science and choice when God's out of the question. Atheists have reason to be Atheists simply because there is no truly compelling proof God does exist. Believers have reason to be Believers simply because the Bible is supposed to carry only truth. I don't know who's side I'm on. I'm very confused about the existence of God.
Z3R0MU5 4 weeks ago
WHAT!!!! I always thought faeries existed!!!!!!
You have ruined my childhood!!!!!!!!!
FacelessBee 4 weeks ago
ZJ, I would have to argue that individual theists have 'reason' to disbelieve in other gods. If they perceive their god is the only real god, then it speaks to a reason to disbelieve in all other 'false-gods.' Of course there are no real gods, but to say they have no reason to not believe in other gods is different than those of us that disbelieve in all gods. Your point about fairies still applies as they have no reason to believe in them.
matthewtaylorbrown 1 month ago
Some people claim that the God of the Jews, the God of the Christians and the God of Islam is one and the same God. And back in the days of ancient Rome and Greece people accepted gods of other cultures and some of those gods were also seen as the same. For example: Zeus=Jupiter, Poseidon=Neptunus, etc.
TaiFerret 1 month ago
@TaiFerret It should be difficult to compare one god that is not Jesus to a god that is not, but your point is valid with the other gods.
matthewtaylorbrown 1 month ago
Job 39:9 according to god unicorns exist so Bible people should defend both or else :]
elijahsama 1 month ago
@elijahsama Your silly intention can be easily tackled with a simple search on wikipedia, to know the meaning of the unicorns at ancient times and especialy in the text we are interested in, the Bible. Also see this, on the web "Unicorns in the Bible? - Answers in Genesis"
Some interpreters say that this could be a rhino in Job, as it also has one horn and is untamed.
ToiTMat 1 month ago
@elijahsama Unicorns are used as a METAPHORE and not a real creature in the Bible. But one can't exclude the possibility of being a real creature at some point, as so many animals have appeared and disappeared over the centuries and people gave it mythical properties as it was so difficult or imposible to find.
ToiTMat 1 month ago
@ToiTMat This doesn't seem consistent. Did unicorns exist or not? We have rare and hard to find animals today. The Bible also speaks of wise giants, angels, sea monsters, satyrs, dragons, cockatrices, demons, witches, talking serpents, zombies, and dragons. There is a clear pattern of mythic creatures and supernatural events. Is it the job of the apologist to explain all of these as metaphors?
matthewtaylorbrown 1 month ago
@matthewtaylorbrown Track back to the people at that time, and you will understand why the wrote this way. Many of the creatures, I am not saying all, as we can't see what the writer was watching at that time, you are discribing were also in the mind of their writers, symbolic images or meanings. One can understand what the writer was talking about, by reading the ENTIRE text and not a simple convenient abstract. Of course also have knowledge of the culture and history, to make safe assumptions.
ToiTMat 4 weeks ago
@ToiTMat No problem with who wrote the texts, it was man. The resurrection also had a symbolic meaning. These people were writing verbal stories after they became interesting enough (morphed) to be written down. This was Iron Aged man. They didn't even see the immorality of slavery. One must really want to believe these things as some sort of fail-safe to live forever. We all die in the end. Nobody gets out of this alive. Their culture stated a man came back from the dead, but that's realistic?
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ToiTMat 1 month ago
Forgive my English, I don't know very well. So the first thing I can say about Judaism, Christianity and Islamism, is that the one comes out from the other. This means the three of them basically claim to "believe" in the same God. The main difference is that Christianity recognizes the three faces of one God, not multiple, because God is out of timespace and therefore three can be one because they have no time or space to separate them,
ToiTMat 1 month ago
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@ToiTMat as for example a human father would from his son, being elder and in another body. Both of them have the human nature to the full but each of them at his timespace. These three faces appear throughout the Old Testament and also there are specific prophecies who talk about a particular person which is called Jesus of Nazareth.
ToiTMat 1 month ago
@ToiTMat One could say that the prophecies about this particular person are manufactured. But this could not be, because of the many “mathematical” fulfillments of these prophecies which no group of people, could ever put together.
ToiTMat 1 month ago
@ToiTMat And consider the fact that they were hunted for their beliefs and paid them with their blood. Thus this is the main difference between the apocalyptical religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islamism) and all the others.
ToiTMat 1 month ago
@ToiTMat This consists on the fact that these religions are very close to the history of the people of these areas who know what happen and can therefore be witnesses to others.
A small example of that is Mark 15:21 where the Evangelist is naming Simon the Cyrenian, father of Alexander and Rufus which is the only person naming his sons who didn’t partake at the scene as known persons. This is clearly to use their names as witnesses to what their father did.
ToiTMat 1 month ago
@ToiTMat But the main difference between the three religions is the message they bring. Judaism is based on the Old Testament, which is good, but only as a prestep to the full meaning of the word of God which is the New Testament. Islam on the other hand was an attempt by a political leader, Mohamed, to unite the Arabs as one nation so this is why Islam is more a political movement than a religion.
ToiTMat 1 month ago
@ToiTMat One can see this by reading the Quran. Christ did not start, at list in the New Testament is very clear to separate the rolls of the state and religion, a political movement. The difference between Judaism and Christianity is that the Jews are still waiting for the savior. A political savior as they thought He would be. But they misinterpreted the message of Him. He would not be a political leader but a spiritual one.
ToiTMat 1 month ago
@ToiTMat That is why they didn’t accept Jesus. We know that Jesus was the one because of the prophecies that are fulfilled and the words which is, in Greek, διαχρονικά. Not simple philosophical ideas but deeply anthropological and theological. Some who studied Neurotheology, tried to explain experiences of religious people as a biological normal function of the brain.
ToiTMat 1 month ago
@ToiTMat But a question here, why would there be a need for the brain to have the ability through the medial temporal lobe, as researcher said, to talk to God when there is no obvious reason, as the researcher who said it’s normal, suggested? Humans are electrochemical machines. They understand the world through electrochemical reactions of the brain. The brain does not have anything unnecessary, we use 100%.
ToiTMat 1 month ago
@ToiTMat And I’m not talking about those crazy people who advertise to the world that God talked to them, but the people who are humble and say little but do a lot in silence. People you see without telling you anything a different light in their eyes. And when you talk to them you get the same feeling of διαχρονικότητα. These are just a few thoughts I made.
ToiTMat 1 month ago
@ToiTMat *which is called Jesus of Nazareth, in the New Testament
ToiTMat 1 month ago
i always wondered how much better off the world would be without religion.... then i think how much worse it would be if the world was full of atheists.... ithink we need religious people to keep a bit of a balance.
mikey41rules 1 month ago
Just a question: Would you ban religion, if you could?
Cthemotorcyclist1982 2 months ago
I find this video totaly ofensive to compare god to santa claus is absurd. I feel I have been violated and that you have stomped all over my feeling There is a difference between the two and I can proove it! Every Christmas time I write my list and send it to Santa and every year he gives me most of what I ask for. I did ask fo a real light sabre last year though and never got that other wise though I do well.
So stop comparing the Santa to the mythical sky daddy of others imagainations!!!!
wuntbedruv 2 months ago 20
@wuntbedruv Are you hung like a Tic-Tac?
Z3R0MU5 4 weeks ago
@Z3R0MU5 Re am I hung like a tic tac Its not really for me to say but my wife of ten ten years seems to to satisfied. Would you you like to explain the concept of happy marital life to you?I get the feeling that it may be alien to you. But I thought this was a discussion on Santa and and the tooth fairy not my down below area.
wuntbedruv 3 weeks ago
@wuntbedruv He might be more easily convinced about the distinctive arguments over the existence of the Gift-giver, aka Santa Claus, after taking a look on this video:
watch?v=kKM6VDqkZko
calsecaz 2 weeks ago
@calsecaz thank you for the link. I can't understand how some people still don't believe in Santa despite the evidence. I think they should show that video in schools, perhaps in science class.
wuntbedruv 2 weeks ago
There is one slight difference between the Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy and God. Parent's and the church never told little children that they would burn in hell for eternity if they didn't look for dyed eggs or stuff their teeth under their pillow.
Take away the abusive fear tactics and god melts away faster than a chocolate Easter bunny and proves to be just as hollow.
eyeammi 2 months ago 13
@eyeammi the parent's wouldn't tell there children that if they didn't believe it for themselves. If they didn't believe it why tell them right? If they believed it and didn't tell them, what would that be?
iceylittle 2 months ago
@iceylittle Granted, If they were truly convinced, it would be justified. However, this says nothing about whether it IS true. Truth does not depend on one's opinion. If the existence of god was accurate, it would be so with or without the concept of heaven or hell as those two ideas are contingent on the existence of said god. However, more often that not, if you take away the concept of heaven & hell, the idea of a god loses it's fear induced credibility regardless of what the parents believe.
eyeammi 2 months ago
@iceylittle More simply put, fear justifies the belief and belief justifies the fear, and so the circle continues. At some point you have to step back and ask yourself, "If my beliefs are going to affect another person, are my beliefs true?" If you allow yourself this honesty, you might be surprised what you'd find.
eyeammi 2 months ago
I believe you can shoot lightning, ZJ. :)
star3catcherSEQUEL 2 months ago
I'd say that the reason people don't believe in unicorns/pixies/etc., but do believe in God is that God can really hurt you or really help you. So even if there's no evidence, they make a special exception because there's something in it for them.
joshtube9 2 months ago
I'm a Christian and enjoy watching your videos.....I don't see why people get so worked up! Free will....DUH! And I think she is pretty so shut up!
CurrentlyLexie 2 months ago
@CurrentlyLexie How can you still be a Christian after watching his videos? Unless you actually aren't comprehending whats being said. o.o
KanjiYakushi11 2 months ago
@KanjiYakushi11 I think its funny!
CurrentlyLexie 2 months ago
@CurrentlyLexie Oh? Please share your humorous perspective with me I could use a good laugh.
KanjiYakushi11 2 months ago
@CurrentlyLexie Chill out
CurrentlyLexie 2 months ago
@ZJemptv There are things people can cite as evidence of god which you cannot refute and they cannot prove, such as - life itself.
All you have stated is that you do not agree with some, not all, believers' interpretations of what they deem to be evidence of god.
Furthermore, you never stated what specific definition of god you are arguing against. You're just throwing some blanket statements out.
blessyourtiteasshole 2 months ago
@ZJemptv Believe it or not the muslims believe in the same fag-hating, ill-tempered god as the one in the bible! It's just a slightly different variation of the same thing. Hinduism believes multitudes of gods. Muslims believe in only one god -this is a spin-off of Judeaism and Christianity. Just as Buddism is a spin-off of Hinduism!
somethingdiffereable 3 months ago
Transexual women have pee stains on the front of their panties because... Well... They have Dicks.
PeaceLoveMichy 3 months ago
ZJemptv how do you explain, "Adam (Man) Seth (appointed) Enosh (fatal injury), Cainan (the only begotten of the Lord). Mahalalel (Praise God), Jared (he shall descend) Enoch (teaching) Methuselah (through his death communion with the lifted high God). Lamech (For the despairing) Noah (this same will be a Comforter to us here)."
There is the Trinity and the gospel message in Genesis 5 which is prior to the flood and passed down to all humanity by speaking our common ancestry.
ABAisSCIENCE 3 months ago
The Bible makes a direct assertion to a consequence of not believing in God which becomes a risk to the human life that demands attention. Santa Claus and the tooth fairy only come either bearing gifts or not based on one stipulation. Which is more important, not getting gifts for Christmas or money under the pillow, or spending eternity in hell? If I was doing a risk assessment, which risk would have the greatest impact? Is that reason enough to evaluate? "Fear is the beginning of Wisdom"
iceylittle 3 months ago
@iceylittle I'm making the assertion that if you don't believe in chocolate frosted unicorns you will be sent to SUPERHELL which is like hell, except you get cloned 5 times and you experience hell 5 times over. I'd say you'd better start praying to my unicorns because if I'm right, that's quite a risk you're taking.
Beanybag2 3 months ago
@Beanybag2 You know when Jesus first started his ministry, only a few believed him until he rose. You are the first prophet of this Unicornism so you do have something to prove. Will you die for your belief in unicorns? Can you get 12 people to die for your cause after you. Can you change a man from one extreme of living to another. You need witnesses to fill compelled to follow you and write down your sayings. You need history to back you up. Do you have the Gospel of a savior?
iceylittle 3 months ago
@iceylittle Lol, that's a funny reason. Not only the bible, but also quran, dammapada, bhagavad diva, etc etc made the direct assertion about it. What about the RISK of not following the other "holy books"? Of not believing in other gods? Wow! You took many risks... You don't believe in 4999 gods, atheists don't believe in 5000 gods. It's just as simple as that..
KarinaTubes 3 months ago
@KarinaTubes There's more to a belief than just defining something as a God. My point is that the belief in a god does not derive from a shallow frame of mind. Yet the video asserts that there is no reason to believe. I've just stated one reason. The Bible, Quran, and Jewish text derive from the same God so I am aware of these. I also know of at least 100 other god's and the others do not have a global presence like the God I'm talking about. Lies are forgotten, truth lingers on.
iceylittle 2 months ago
"We dont believe in T Fairy or EasterB because there is no reason to"
NO it is because they are Known Myths.
A Reason to Believe?
Because it is a hypothesis as to how the Universe came to be.
Evidence for Lepracauns & Dark Matter are also exactly the same.
Same with many other unproven Scientific Theories.
God is not exempt from proof but only those with an open mind will search.
Those whos Religion is Non Belief will assume No God exists.
Would you do the same for Dark Matter?
Texmurphy51 3 months ago
Or well, that's how I would say it... Not sure if that was what you wanted to express.
KendrixTermina 3 months ago
religion is that ppl seriously believe the latter is true, but there is nothing objectively meansurable that makes one myth better than the other, or that makes them different from myths ppl don't believe in anymore, so you shouldn't force yours on others and accept that you can't use them as a valid basis for an argument you want all people to recognize, not just your fellow christians/moslems/etc, because your justofication basically comes down to: "It is that way because I chose to believe it
KendrixTermina 3 months ago
is". You can chose to believe anything, and everyone else can just chose NOT to believe it. So you've gotta argument with facts which are irrefutably the same for everyone who sees them and can be proven or disproven.
KendrixTermina 3 months ago
makers thought it looked cool. Yet, people were looking for a Christian meaning in a japanese show, because apparently, they are the center of the universe. To a Japanese person, Christianity is a collection of cool myths. They used it like we use Greek Mythology - the ancient Greek people seriously believed in it, but it's just myth to us. ANY religion is just myth to those who don't believe in it, and all are myths to those who don't believe at all - the only difference between a myth and a
KendrixTermina 3 months ago
The problem many ppl might have with this argument is that you're comparing it to a silly kid story(Tooth Fairy, etc...) , and they see that as condescending. I'm not saying you're wrong,I'm not religious myself, but telling ppl they're stupid is not going to make them listen to you, and they have to listen to see your point. A comparision I'd use to discribe the same notion is that there is a Japanese Sci-Fi show which uses Christian symbols - not for any Christian meaning, but because its
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You all hate God, but reject his existence, by don't believing in God, you believe only in proven facts and reject faith, but the Atheism by it self can't be proven as a fact and actually is faith, then to confirm their insanity they call Christians, people without reason, and themselves call "reasonable people" ... GOD LOVES YOU ALL!
MrRagweed 3 months ago
v-necks are hot on girls because they also have breasts. i have selected "classic" as my reaction.
tastysauce 3 months ago
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Im 12... My parents belive in god... lol, it makes me laugh yet on the ocassion cry because they try o force me to go to sunday school... BUT I REFUSE! simply stating that "WHATS THE POINT OF WORSHIPING A MAKE BELIEF CHARACTER THAT PEOPLE USE TO EXPLAIN THE UNEXPLAINABLE FALSLY!?) ... remember this is coming from a boy in 7th grade. :D
thedirk3000 3 months ago
Im 12... My parents belive in god... lol, it makes me laugh yet on the ocassion cry because they try o force me to go to sunday school... BUT I REFUSE! simply stating that "WHATS THE POINT OF WORSHIPING A MAKE BELIEF CHARACTER THAT PEOPLE USE TO EXPLAIN THE UNEXPLAINABLE FALSLY!?) ... remember this is coming from a boy in 7th grade. :D
thedirk3000 3 months ago
A Question:
Can you still be called an atheist even if you believe that there is someone watching over you? Like a person who was once here but passed away and is now looking over you?
tay1164 3 months ago 10
@tay1164 i dont know... im 12, but i think that thats an acception. btw i dont belive in god yet my parents do... life's a bitch.
thedirk3000 3 months ago
@tay1164 a ghost?
erghtrfgh 3 months ago
@tay1164
yes, atheism just means the disbelief in gods, that's it. So you can still have other supernatural/superstitious beliefs and remain an atheism (good examples of this; Buddhists and Jainism practices; godless religions that hold beliefs in other supernatural forces)
LadyAmaltheaUnicorn 3 months ago
@LadyAmaltheaUnicorn
Thanks !! :)
tay1164 2 months ago
@tay1164 Yea you can still be called an atheist. Not all atheists hold the same beliefs in everything. The only thing we have in common in general is that we don't believe in any gods.
MeanKno 2 months ago
@tay1164 If you think this person has the power to condemn you after death and decide for you what's moral or immoral...then probably no...
Lucky88Duck 1 month ago
@tay1164
No.
SeveredExtremities 1 month ago
@tay1164 god isnt a "person watching over you", its more of a spirit than a physical being
chadunn13 1 month ago
@tay1164 if you dont believe that it is a "higher being" then yes theoretically
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@tay1164 no, but you are schizophrenic
IAmSuchANerdLol 1 month ago
@tay1164 that is an extremely comforting thought and those who say "you don't get to be in the cool atheist club anymore" most likely havent lost someone important to them.
petekollie 1 month ago
@petekollie
Thanks! It is, and when I tell people I am they don't believe it at first. They either just do not understand the definition of an atheist or just do not know who I am as a person. But thanks, everyone for clearing it up for me! :)
tay1164 1 month ago
@petekollie of cource you understand who funny all you said seems. you don't believe in the existance of an invisible to the eye being, for whom hundreds of writers wrote the experience of his actions to their lives, yet you acknowledge the existance beyond death, not just a simple "energy" but something that has awareness. I'm sure you even believe zodiac cycle!!! hahahahaha! you "atheists" are very funny after all!!
ToiTMat 1 month ago
@ToiTMat Most atheists disbelieve in any afterlife and anything supernatural. ZJ's beliefs are personal like yours. The only thing we atheists have in common is that we are not theists like you. The comparison of any two things we consider mythical is perfectly valid. You have many things you disbelieve and you are free to compare them as the same. Isis and Santa are both dismissable and comparable as myths. We understand that you don't see it this way or you too would be an atheist.
matthewtaylorbrown 1 month ago
@matthewtaylorbrown The answer is, that there is a significant amount of proof for the energies of a willing God, not His essence, to those who are not narrow minded, and tend to look at the big picture. In this case, history.
ToiTMat 4 weeks ago
@ToiTMat You want to believe that live and its wonders are proof of what you perceive as a god-creator. Every rainbow and sunset is just more proof for you. It does not make it proof to anyone else. There are no gods.
All religions have found proof that their god is the one true god, this is the way of religions. If one considers that the supernatural is in play in their lives, that is what they will see. The ancient Egyptians were just as convinced.
matthewtaylorbrown 4 weeks ago
@matthewtaylorbrown /watch?v=a1OWnCau-eo&feature=related
ToiTMat 4 weeks ago
@ToiTMat Lennox's proposals are all based on the presumption that a god-creator exists. If you listen to his ideas with the notion that there are no gods, he just sounds like a Christian with Christian notions. With that in mind, I didn't find him compelling. I've seen one or more of his videos in the past, he seemed very familiar. To a Christian his message must be very appealing as he basically makes science and creation work together. Things start to break down immediately with a young earth.
matthewtaylorbrown 4 weeks ago
@ToiTMat sorry i answer so late but you seem to be confused about what i said and meant - i dont believe in an afterlife at all, once the cells in your brain died due to lack of oxygen the being that was you is no longer there (of course it would be fun to encypher the remember-proteins in the futur postmortem...) zodiac-O are fun to read sometimes but rubbish..
my point was: "Do not pity the dead,[...]Pity the living[...]"- JKR '98
the grieving people need comfort and are allowed to dream a lil
petekollie 3 weeks ago
@petekollie Our disbelief in gods has what to do with a painful death in the family?
matthewtaylorbrown 1 month ago
@matthewtaylorbrown (sorry i answer so late but) of course it has nothing to do with each other. still atheist arent machines that say "well mom you were the weakest link - nature has chosen you to die to ensure the well-being of our tribe" after my friends(not religious at all) mother died and talked sobbing in my arms that her mother looks over her - i wouldnt tell her "you now she is just decomposing now, right?"
(but it still is just a comforting thought to make one feel better)
ramen
petekollie 3 weeks ago
@petekollie I'm not a science-based atheist. Survival of the fittest seems so Draconian; cold. I'm all for offering comfort in time of need. Telling a child they will be with Mom and the rest in the next life creates an expectation and an actual need for it to be true. Instead of addressing riggers and decomposition, it is probably more beneficial to be assuring and comforting. A person can be robbed of this life if they believe there is a better one waiting them when they stop breathing.
matthewtaylorbrown 3 weeks ago
@tay1164 There is only one thing that defines an atheist, that is that you are not a theist. It has everything to do with the existence of a god or gods, nothing more. Atheists believe in many things, some believe in some supernatural concepts. One can be an atheist and still believe in ghosts, a heaven, and talking to the dead. Most atheists disbelieve in all or most supernatural concepts, but it is not a requirement.
matthewtaylorbrown 1 month ago
God created man in his own image. You're comparing all these mythical characters to the creator of creation. For instance, If God was an all powerful unicorn we would all look like unicorns.
OpenTheB0x 4 months ago
@OpenTheB0x So why are people born disfigured and in imperfection when "God" is perfect. I was brought up a christian and im pretty much giving up on the contradictory nature of this "religion"
bangbangboogybaby 4 months ago
i believe you can shoot lighting from your fingers.. oh and you have a unique hotness you remind me of donna from that 70's show, just saying
William81Edge10 4 months ago
I think they find it offensive because it demeans the value of their God when it is compared to other imaginary beings.
If this is the case, it would be better to compare it to Norse gods, who actually had followers as well that didn't think they were imaginary.
Granted, there were people who believed in unicorns or Santa, but these are mainly children.
pythor2 4 months ago
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pythor2 4 months ago
@RecBookHero: If you are asking if atheists think Christians are wrong, well yes.....and in the same manner that Christians deny other religions. Saying "I don't know" is better than making shit up. The reason for this is because it allows the potential to find the truth versus living in a lie or delusion. I am an atheist because, so far, in my search for the truth of existence I have found nothing to indicate that there is any reason to believe in a god. The day I see proof, I'll reconsider.
fluxsage 4 months ago
@RedheadSmexMonster But arent you the ones who think Christianity is wrong? I mean, if we dont understand the demension we are physically in right now, who is to say you are right in assuming they are wrong? Who is to say a God did not tell someone named Abraham to settle and Isreal and start a chain of events that have since then become three major religeons in the world?
In my opinion, I think Atheism is just as much a religeon as Christianity.
RecBookHero 4 months ago
this may seem stupid... but i could totally see you cosplaying as princess laya...
dws284 4 months ago
I believe in gnomes! But I don't believe in Yahweh... Hmm... am I inconsistent? :(
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I used to beleive in the Toothfairy, he was called Colin.
xkoenigseggx 4 months ago
@xkoenigseggx - That's actually pretty sweet. xD
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Exactly, we don't need god or religion, all we need is each other.
NANOFORGE 5 months ago
@NANOFORGE GO FUCK YOURSELF! WITHOUT GOD THERE WOULD BE NO "WE" OR YOU!
ILUVSTRAWBERRYFRSTG3 4 months ago
@ILUVSTRAWBERRYFRSTG3 Nah I'll pass. There is no God, I was created when my father gave his sperm to my mother it has nothing to do with mr white cloud man, I learn't this in 5th grade. It's called reproduction. Go back to school and get an education you fucking remroid.
NANOFORGE 4 months ago
@NANOFORGE You fucking retard! That comment just shows how STUPID you are! God didn't literally conceive humans, he created everyone in the pre existence and when it was your time to be born your parents had you and you were brought to Earth, unfortunately!
ILUVSTRAWBERRYFRSTG3 3 months ago
@ILUVSTRAWBERRYFRSTG3 Blow me, he created nothing because he is'nt real, go die in a hole you primitive flintstone mother fucker. Get an education.
NANOFORGE 3 months ago
@ILUVSTRAWBERRYFRSTG3 Then if there's god, why do atheists exist?
KarinaTubes 4 months ago
@KarinaTubes Such a STUPID question, you people are actually RETARDED! There has to be good and evil in the world, there has to be opposition with everything otherwise there would be no point with anything and life wouldn't be hard at all!
ILUVSTRAWBERRYFRSTG3 3 months ago
@ILUVSTRAWBERRYFRSTG3 Ok then, it means that ur god designed a hard life for yall. Ur god created devils and all the bad things in the world. Which god anyway? There are plenty of gods out there...
KarinaTubes 3 months ago
(cont) When one cannot even tackle smaller abstracts such as these, how can you even HOPE to expect science to "prove" the existence OR non-existence of n even LARGER abstract? God is not in a box, so science should stop pretending that He is.
I must admit though, it is amazing how much faith atheists have!!! It is hard to STRICTLY believe in nothing rather than the rest of the world admiring how absolutely mind bogglingly complex our world is and saying the only way is for intelligent design.
TashaZasha 5 months ago
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TashaZasha 5 months ago
You cannot simply deny things for which there is no "scientific proof for" because there are things even on earth that science cannot tackle. Science has its limits. Science cannot prove love, provide the chemical explanation of the exact thoughts I am creating as I write this response, it cannot provide the reasoning of why humans have the capability of rational, forethought, and thinking in the abstract instead of merely responding to stimuli. Science is not everything. (cont)
TashaZasha 5 months ago
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okay lets be serious. this is an absurd illustration..its not the absence of evidence that we cant prove god, but its that we have good reasonable evidence...thats like saying you cant prove god exist because you cant prove santa doesnt exist. its EVIDENT that some fat guy in a sleigh is NOT flying around the world delivering presents. this is a horrible argument. god can be explained by our objective moral values, the origin of our universe. have you researched intelligent design before???
sadplateofbacon 5 months ago
Your arguments are so soundly logical, it makes me so happy. I just want to find you and give you a hug. :)
PrimorisCarmen 5 months ago 29
now you sound like a robot in this video, like all the other videos.
abcdefg5618 5 months ago
@abcdefg5618 so what?
trueChaos23 5 months ago
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@CrabLips1 Argument from popularity, cool story bro
Fissioninferno 5 months ago
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Fissioninferno 5 months ago
... I believe in unicorns...
DoominglyRapids 5 months ago
Comparing the concept of God to the tooth fairy etc. is the most retarted arrogance you could find. Atheists think its funny, but God has been a subject of the most intelligent philosophy in the recent 2000 years (Existentialism, not Thomism) and then you get this literal idiocy. Modern mania.
Phavonic 5 months ago
There is *exactly* the same amount of evidence for "god" as there is for the Easter Bunny.
mikefromwa 5 months ago
@mikefromwa "God" is not necessarily an item of evidence. There is no "evidence" in any philosophy. In the discourses of Kierkegaard, Tillich or Tolstoy you can't replace the word "God" in their books with "easter bunny".
No one is stupid enough to think so either. The atheist is being as super-literal as the fundamentalist Christian and surprises me just how amateurish his reasoning (and contagious sarcasm) has become.
Phavonic 5 months ago
@Phavonic: "God is not necessarily an item of evidence."
Whatever. "God" doesn't exist, so it's really pointless to worry about it.
"...surprises me just how amateurish his reasoning"
You want to see "amateurish reasoning", look no further than the bible. It's a textbook example of superstition, amateurish reasoning, and outright lies.
mikefromwa 5 months ago
i cannot believe i have not subscribed to you yet. your videos are great, you got yourself a sub!!
rawrvintageisclassic 5 months ago
I favourited this!
thedirk3000 5 months ago
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IVE BEEN THINKING THIS EVER SINCE I BECAME SMART ENOUGH TO RELISE THAT THERE IS NO GODS WHATSOEVER! Oh I'm 12 BTW!
thedirk3000 5 months ago
IVE BEEN THINKING THIS EVER SINCE I BECAME SMART ENOUGH TO RELISE THAT THERE IS NO GODS WHATSOEVER! Oh I'm 12 BTW!
thedirk3000 5 months ago
IVE BEEN THINKING THIS EVER SINCE I BECAME SMART ENOUGH TO RELISE THAT THERE IS NO GODS WHATSOEVER! Oh I'm 12 BTW!
thedirk3000 5 months ago
IVE BEEN THINKING THIS EVER SINCE I BECAME SMART ENOUGH TO RELISE THAT THERE IS NO GODS WHATSOEVER! Oh I'm 12 BTW!
thedirk3000 5 months ago
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2eelShmeal 6 months ago
there are two things I hate more then anything in life: #1 when I take a shit and water splashes up on balls, #2 this giant faggot.
millbillzztop 6 months ago
@millbillzztop You hate "this giant faggot" because she uses logic to try to explain things to more simple beings such as yourself?
KanjiYakushi11 5 months ago
@jsshattuck1103 Go fuck yourself idiot.
PS: I'm a Nihilist. CANT TOUCH ME!
Zwank36 6 months ago
It's not exactly the same b/c this is a spiritual thing vs. a child's play thing, however you are completely entitled to your opinion.
internetfan2005 6 months ago
Lol, I just watch shockofgod's video addressing this video. What a failure. All he can do is attack the fact that you used Santa as a comparison. He can't attack the actual content of the argument. In fact, he stops the video before the actual argument so that he doesn't have to.
Then he disables comments and ratings on his videos. Scared of the truth much?
pyrobryan 6 months ago
God is not mythological.
smurfboywv 6 months ago
@smurfboywv And your evidence for this is?
HippieGuitarBoy 6 months ago
@HippieGuitarBoy I live on faith, not evidence.
smurfboywv 6 months ago
@smurfboywv Then don't state an objective claim. Say, "I believe that god is not mythological", instead of making statements that you can't support.
HippieGuitarBoy 6 months ago
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@HippieGuitarBoy Excuse me, God is NOT mythological. If he was none of us would be here, the universe would not exist, life would not exist.
smurfboywv 6 months ago
@smurfboywv You don't have proof of that the bible has been passed on over the years not everything is true but mostly are real
StrictlyBethesda 6 months ago
Isn't the Islam God the same as the Christian God?
coda623 6 months ago
@coda623 no.
dixiedolly12449 6 months ago
@coda623 Yes but people tend to forget that because of the different religion and name for God.
KoukiBuri 6 months ago
I still think that it's much more likely that there are unicorns or flying spaghetti than no God
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prettygrange194r 6 months ago
@Hotfrotato Superior to all creatures? How about syphilis bacteria? Spread by the exercise of free will. God outdid himself with that one. Oh, yeah, we can cure it now, but only as the result of scientific research by atheist scientists.
boulderdsvo 6 months ago
I think it's more accurate to compare God to Aliens
it's very likely he exists, but we don't know yet
father042 6 months ago
@father042 - Are Aliens all knowing, all powerful, and supernatural? I doubt it!
bitphr3ak 6 months ago
@bitphr3ak neither are unicorns or fairies
father042 6 months ago
@father042 - furthermore, I'm willing to believe there is life 'out there'; not because of a belief in a God, but because we are here. If we are willing to believe in Aliens, perhaps Aliens are willing to believe in us. Neither are, or will be super natural. They, like us will be subject to the laws of nature, perhaps with technologies to take advantage of those laws. In terms of a belief, I guess mine is that the universe begets Life like an apple tree begets apples.
bitphr3ak 6 months ago
@father042 in most early peoples' literature and art aliens where very well embeded into it, all of thier literature, while most early societies had different dieties. christianity was started by the romans, and where the only ones who believed in "god" at that time. while all the rest and romans and greeks believes in aliens and said men in ships came down from the heavens and took things or helped build the civilization. aliens are very well more likely to be real than "god", none of the
kaiteCOD1213 6 months ago
@father042 ( comment continued ) literature actually said that "god" helped them at all or even played a part in building thier civilization other than creating them, while the aliens did help. there is a carving from the mayan of a man sitting it the position that austronaghts sit it with his foot on a thruster and cords around him, while there is no art of "god" or thier dieties doing what we do now.
kaiteCOD1213 6 months ago
She/hes rite about the fact we only believe things if there are good reasons. The thing is there are many good reasons(not scientific evidence) to believe in god. 95% of the world, (including noble prize winners) don't just believe theres a god for no reason. Its not logically sound to compare god to unicorns, santa etc.
atheistrocker100 6 months ago
@atheistrocker100
Then how is it that the vast majority of scientists, and the intelligentsia, don't believe in any form of god, while the vast majority of prison inmates believe in a god? Could there be a correlation between intelligence, education, and the belief in an imaginary friend?
BTW, if they didn't win a Nobel prize for something that effects religion, the Nobel prize has nothing to do with the discussion.
The logic is fine, voting on the sex of a rabbit doesn't change it's sex.
rynther 6 months ago
@rynther "Could there be a correlation between intelligence" This is my point. No, i don;t think there is. The thing with noble prize winners, is that they are at the highest level of intelligence. Their at a much higher level than Dawkins, krauss etc. And the fact that some have been religious and others not, suggests that intelligence doesn't matter. I understand a majority doesn't make it true. Its just many atheists think people believe in a god for no good reason,
atheistrocker100 6 months ago
@atheistrocker100
So what's your reason?
rynther 6 months ago
Dead poster. Your gay, your not woman. Your a dyke.
sincerely me
Gabriel1Baer 6 months ago
Man your good!!
LCMJB 6 months ago
ur a dumbass
Gatorboy931 6 months ago