A Quaint Little Railway (1930)

[dalekpower]

fantastic, what a shame it no longer exsists, it'd be a beutiful line to ride.

[WorldsGreatestMystic]

amazing look at the past..

[curzmg]

Is this film now in the public domain, does anyone know?

[jetporter]

I think a good upgrade to "You tube" would be to give the original uploader of the video the ability to delete comments.

On topic, this is an interesting little railway. Makes a guy want to buy the live steam model of the locomotive that just became available.

[alanheath]

@jetporter The original uploader of a video can delete comments - and as far as I can remember it was always that way!

[samthegreencat47]

What an amazing railway !Amazing scenery.I had heard of it but always thought it was standard gauge. .Pity its gone!It would have made a great tourist line.Any plans to revive it?

[applephilia]

@samthegreencat47 There should be. I visited the very same locations nearly two years ago now and thought it must have been a railway because of a distinctive tunnel and "duplicate" bridges over the River Manifold. I found out its history and lo and behold, it was a narrow gauge railway, and in absolutely stunning scenery. It would be exactly the right sort of attraction for the area, and probably boost tourism in the right ways.

[fcentaur]

Good idea! Advanced engineers!

[TrainmasterCurt]

Funny h0w it says "A queer little railway" lol, i think back then it meant strange or awkward

[Rearda]

@TrainmasterCurt I'm in my 50s and still find myself using the word 'queer' in its older sense. Probably because it clung on in the North of England a lot longer; and I'm a Tolkien fan - the Hobbit folk used it a lot when describing others whose traits they mistrusted. It's annoying when profanity filters on Tolkien sites keep asterisking it out. BTW - how did the history of Christianity worm its way into a film about a disused milk train?

[TrainmasterCurt]

@Rearda 1400 deadwood said some stuff he did'nt fully understand

[organisten]

@Rearda excuse me - I object to the notion that, just because one group of people have taken this word to themselves, the original meaning is thereby redundant. That is what you imply by saying "older sense". That original meaning is still vallid!

[Rearda]

@organisten I did say in my post that I still use the word "queer" in its 'old sense' myself. No-one knows the origin of the word (possibly Germanic origin), which first appeared around the 16th century; but it has only been used to describe homosexuals since the 20th century.

[organisten]

@Rearda well, if you wish to be strict about things, you are still wrong. You say that it has only been used to mean "homosexual" since the 20th Century (which would mean that it hasn't been used for anything else). I suspect that you really mean that it has been used to describe homosexuals ONLY since the 20th Century. Lol. Alas the queer rules for English, and the placement of words, are falling apart. The emphasis must fall on the word after "only", in your case "been" to dictate its meaning.

[Rearda]

@organisten Thanks for the clarification. I never studied language and welcome any help that enables me to use it more clearly.

[jigen08]

@TrainmasterCurt: I grew up in the 1970s UK and used the word 'queer' in its proper sense. It wasn't until I moved to the USA in the 1980s that I was told it was an offensive and aggressive slang term for 'homosexual'. A perfectly good word's broad usage curtailed by closed-mindedness and bigotry. Shame, really.

Why don't people just say 'homosexual' if that's what they mean?

[chanctonbury63]

@jigen08 Whose closed minded bigotry do you have in mind? Just because `English` is spoken in the USA, doesnt mean that it has to be word for word like our own does it? Why dont you go up to someone on a US city street and ask if you can bum a fag? Then try counting your teeth after the response? English varies in our own country. Try telling a Londoner to put his keks on. Or ask him if he goes to the kirk on Sunday. You are a fool.

[SuperBostyn]

Interesting piece of footage.I'm a member of two British train sites : Railway World TV and Steam Tube.Could I put this video on these two sites please? I will certainly mention the source!!

[crewzaa]

That`s the Trouble with the Working Classes.

They Breed like Wabbits.

Did The Nazis not take this image a stage further 9 years later.Juden.

[fogbeet]

wow, so if there was a milk train was there a gravy train 2? lol

[ok69severin]

what a beauty

[McGSkjellyfetti]

What an innovative and efficient solution to the break of gauge problem. This in not like anything I've seen before. It seems in a way a little prescient of the current inter-modal transportation system with trailers and then containers on train cars. Here on this narrow gauge railway, they built a narrow gauge car to carry an entire broad gauge car. Along the line, they had some broad gauge sidings where they could leave those cars for loading or unloading.

[Isochest]

@McGSkjellyfetti I think it has been and still is used in other places (Zillertalbahn, Austria?).

[dkbmaestrorules]

@McGSkjellyfetti I think they used the system a lot in Saxony, Germany (search 'rollwagen' on google and you ought to get something), but this was the only place they used it in the UK.

[davidrobert2007]

The audio has been disabled due to copyright restrictions. LOL

[alanstarkie2001]

Today, it's just a queer little cycle track...

[MrStablelad]

The Milk run from the farms in the churns to the dairy

[ChasseurBritannique]

was that Ronnie Barker at 9:37?

[waldenhouse]

Absolutely fantastic - a great glimpse of Railway History. Is it still in existence?

[atomage2006]

@waldenhouse closed in the 1930s. You can still walk the trackbed - from nowhere to nowhere! 

[Isochest]

@waldenhouse It closed in 1934. But I wish it still was in use:-))) Like the portuguese Narrow Gauge (Bítola estreita)

[Necrovamp101]

@waldenhouse No, though you can walk the route as they have paved it for walkers, and the tunnels and stuff are still there, there is also the platform for the station 'thors cave' but it's overgrown. Nice walk though

[robinkimberley]

@waldenhouse

discontinued in 1933. Now a footpath/cycle track.

[alanheath]

@robinkimberley So it is still being used! Albeit without the rails!

[gamer00100]

I run a queer little railway too ;)

[goSoutherNcal]

why the hell was this in my recommended box?

[SR722]

This would be a great line to model; picturesque scenery, classic narrow-gauge locomotives, and an interesting purpose.

[trainmaster500]

@SR722 do you model any particular scene right now? I recently got in to N scale...

[SR722]

Well, I guess my scene would be shortline mountain railroading in the mid-20th century, in Z - G gauges, excluding S-gauge. N-scale is a fun one to model, and I personally like it better than HO; my old N-scale layout was about 4X8, but it was enough to contain three inter-connected levels of track, complete with a yard, roundhouse, and gas industry on the base level. All track is from Kato, as are most of my locomotives, which have been very faithful for nearly two decades now.

[trainmaster500]

Sounds like a great layout plan.

Do you know how to apply balast to Kato track?

[SR722]

@trainmaster500 Thanks, and I used a cork roadbed with the powder of crushed granite fines for most of the sections (I simply used the granite powder since it was lying around, I'm sure there's something better out there); use a thin paintbrush dabbed in adhesive to apply the glue to the side of the plastic roadbed, and then use another brush to "scoop" the ballast onto the area, and spread the rock around.

[TheSteamdriver]

what happend to the engines that ran the line

[MrBlaxjax]

I dis a hunt arounfd the internet , and discovered that this old railway is now used as a footpath..called the Manifold way, also, some of the old stations are preserved....Amazing this interweb thingy...

[cogidubnus1953]

Wonderful footage...thank you for posting it...I think it's a fascinating insight into a totally bygone age...

[slygom]

and those were the days...

[chrisrussell1]

really good movie very inspirational from a modellers aspect - thanks

[Toyboy789]

Perhaps the most interesting aspect of this clip is the excellent standard of trackwork! There;s hardly any movement in those milk churns!

[Isochest]

@Toyboy789 Well spotted. Especially for such a Narrow gauge route

[videos995]

I have read several books and walked the line several times, This video adds to my enjoyment so thanks for uploading this.

[southtrethevy]

I do like railways.....

[Madmelodist]

Great video! Some great footage here!

Thanx,

Sam

[GavinS1965]

Brilliant!

[cleckheatoncentral]

Maybe one day, Some group might restore this line. I am sure it would be a hit with the tourists! Look at the Lynton & Barnstaple railway

[Mangina9000]

Most of them just want attention and to get a cheap rise out of people.

[GWR4079]

@latham29 it depends on what you determin as raciest?

[goshnessmaggy]

what an idiot. I'm hispanic and i know i'm better off in society and much more intelligent than you are. so read something, stop believing in statistics, lose your ignorance and maybe you'd be a good addition to society too.

[GWR4079]

@goshnessmaggy it depends on where you live tbf and if you will drop what you believe in to satisfy other religons

[1400deadwood]

@psycotria - ''It's unfortunate that "multiculturalism" and tolerance seems to be enabling these "other religions" to move in''

Hmmm. Didn't I read somewhere that Christianity came into the UK with swords & weapons just like it did in the USA? If so, it's too bad you weren't there to teach them that lesson.

[TrainmasterCurt]

@1400deadwood Actually, Christianity came to Britain not by sword but by a budded staff. When Joseph of Arimathaea came to Britain he planted his staff on Wearyall Hill in Glastonbury, and it budded, and that is where Christianity in Britain started, the FIRST Celtic Church was established by "peace" not war, not like Islam, when they ruined Constantinople!

[1400deadwood]

@TrainmasterCurt - I have read in the past of this myth - it was said it originated in the 8th or 9th century and that earlier teachers did not mention him among the founders of Christianity there. Others say missionaries came from Spain & battled with local pagans for converts. Thereafter, the Caesar imposed Christianity to make 'peace'. Not saying you're wrong but - having no expertise on the subject I cannot defend any position taken by religious zealots or anyone else.

[TrainmasterCurt]

@1400deadwood You can believe what you wish, the first church in Britain was Celtic, and there was a shrine to St.Mary at Glastonbury since the 2nd century, and still is one to this day. Peace be with you +

[1400deadwood]

@TrainmasterCurt - no argument from me :)

[MaryOMackie]

If the people back then ever knew what was to eventually become of their country...that's why man is never to know the future, it's far too depressing and frightening.

[silver760]

he may well know the future and has invented a time machine,in the past,but just fast forwards through the crap bits.

[alanheath]

@MaryOMackie The standard of living is immensely better know that it was then. And despite the current economic slow down, it is fair to say that you have never had it so good.

[porno6361]

great bit of film,glad it survived this long,thanks for posting it

[mpracing4]

Appears the scenery along this railroad was second to none! Also couldn't help but it appears the railroad's infrastructure (specifically the rail line itself) was very well maintained in it's day.

[kitkatstars]

I love eerie silent films

[fluoridekid]

Wonderful piece of social history for the L&MVLR

[hujjesb]

the good old days

[althejazz]

Great to see this - it's a superb view of a great little railway and such good quality too. Just a little quibble - the line was taken over by the LMS at the grouping in 1923 and it was the LMS who closed it - The North Staffordshire Railway had ceased to exist in 1923.

[betsy1947]

I like it! What a peaceful, pastoral place and much simpler, nice times. *Sigh*

[RudojiLape]

Cute lil' rail grade adaptor! Didn't know they had those! ^^

[fivestarmichael]

"jumping someone else's train."

[khonamanje]

wonderful!

[RichmanJ93]

Cool!

[checkmatesolidier]

what a wonderful relic, this film.

[Mineralvein]

The Manifold Valley is Staffordshire not Derbyshire

[micahthatrocks]

since they dint have reverse on the locomotive back then. men had to push the cars. and sometimes the locomotive. ouch!

[jampatsmy]

I don't know where you got that idea from. This film is allegedly from the 1930's. Of course the locomotives could reverse. The reversing lever was usually to the side of the boiler and ran into the cab. I've never heard of anyone pushing a loco - even a small 0-4-0 could weigh over 14 tons.

[micahthatrocks]

like i siad. alot of men. up to 20 had to push.

[barnstoneworth11]

You're talking rot. Both engines on the line had reversing gear. The pushing of the wagon at the start of this film is because it's a standard gauge wagon being pushed from the very short length of track built for it onto the narrow guage transporter wagon.

The use of transporter wagons in the UK was unique to this line.

[micahthatrocks]

oh.

[Wayzgoosey]

The L&MLR was actually closed by the LMS; it was engineered by ER Calthrop and was unusual in that it was constructed so that standard gauge stock could be carried on transporter wagons which were then shunted onto isolated sections of standard gauge tracks at factories and suchlike. Much of the trackbed is currently accessible as a footpath.

[SteffanLlwyd]

It was said that the L&MLR 'Started in the middle-of-nowhere and ended up in the same place!'

Great film. Thanks

[chrisconil]

charming!

[meconicuk]

Excellent piece of filming of an unusual railway.

[swappyinn]

lame

[DADRENO]

The Manifold Valley Railway closed before I was born. I hope to ride the trackbed soon on my ATB, to inspect the remains.

[cablecarguy]

Wonderful footage. "Next stop, Sodor" flashed into my mind.

[greystig]

What an excellent film, reminds me of the Welshpool to Llanfair Careinion Railway in Mid Wales..5*

[ogauger]

excellent clip!5*

[Olphus]

What's the date of this footage?

[01276]

the 1930 in the title gives that away

[Olphus]

ah man, I read the whole description but missed the title..how silly of me;-)