@mreed91 The polesitter is supposed to start slowly accelerating when they are between 3-4 and continue until the Green flag is waved. Then he goes balls to the walls and the others are supposed to do the same thing. They are not supposed to pass the polesitter until they pass the S/F. They are pretty much at full speed when they pass the S/F line, or at least close to it.
@Jeb1945 Right...I wonder just what they used to consider "aligned grid", because, clearly, when you see the race official waving green flags, drivers are not even close to be 3-wide all around... =P
He was soooo lucky that he didnt go into the wall alone. Gordon smiley did pretty much the same thing at close to the same speed and smiley was killed. Also lucky he didnt get hit again after the nose was torn off.
Wow, Scott Brayton was the polesitter in this race. Unfortunately, he would die the next year during practice for this same race. Safety wasn't nearly as advanced as it is today.
Unless otherwise stated, most all races in the US, the number in its title represents either the number of miles or (less often) kilometers (or estimation of) if the track is at or over a mile long, or laps, if the track is at or under a mile long
at 1:23 You think De Farren thought his car could have been fixed in the pits? "Just change three of the tires I don't need the fourth." (I know that's what not happened just kidding since some people on you tube take everything so seriously)
is as insane as the chariot race of antiquity. the difference is technology and the worldwide appeal hearing by the money the fame. lamentable. I was in my house watching live in Brazil. lation is too shocking
I love most forms of motorsports, but I have become annoyed at the outcomes of Indy car crashes. So many times the front sections of the cars detach and leave the driver body exposed. I mean why don't the employ a monoque+frame chassis on these cars. I understand that the cars will dissipate energy, but at the expense of the driver. Maybe I am out of touch I dunno...
@jfrockon I believe, even in this era, Indy cars were built to similar standards to Formula 1 cars. the thing to remember here is that F1 cars strike soft tire walls after slowing down for a short period. they usually dont hit anything faster than 120-140mph. Indy hits solid concrete at up to 230mph. i'm not sure much could survive that kind of hit without deforming significantly
if fox had been running by himself and up to full speed...... the angle in which he lost it and hit the wall reminds me alot of Gordon Smiley's tragic accident.
Open wheel racing on an oval track just seems crazy. They go 3 wide into a turn without lifting off the gas. It's amazing there aren't many more accidents like this one. So easy for the tires to touch and then it's all over.
His poor feet were dragging on the ground!----- The announcers didnt make any note of that they were just being dks about it and blaming the wreck on him
A quote from another video on this crash, from a EMT
"That was the 2nd worst day of my life at IMS because I had to help clean up the accident and while we was putting Stan on the stretcher his helmet fell in two pieces in my hand and I though he was dead! "
I beleive Stan was killed in traffic accident in New Zeland in 2000??
The only thing different these days is that Barnhart keeps telling them they're supposed to not pass the next car up on their row until they hit the line. The old rule was you could pass anyone on your row, not the next, between the short chute and the start/finish line. I.e., other cars on the front row, and especially the outside of the front row, could take the lead into turn one much more often, as they did in '82, '84, '85, '86, '89, '93 and '95.
And even if it had been Cheever who had lost control, who can talk about blame in a situation like this? The thing is that in that era of indycar racing a simple racing incident could turn disastrous in a fraction of a second.
This race did go on to be one of the best ever. I have just about the whole month on DVD and watch it every now and then. The sound these cars made was fantastic.
Retarded to say that he was in over his head. The idiot that posted that is obviously unaware that you have to test and be approved to be able to even QUALIFY for this race. Regardless of what this moron thinks...every driver in the field, every year, is qualified. You've probably never been over 65MPH in your life anyways.
Don't comment if you don't know what you are talking about, you don't get to that level without earning it. For a professional to take a hard right like that something on the car had to have broken. Thank you and have a nice day.
Stan Fox was in over his head. He should've never been out there. That's always been the problem with Indy are joke drivers that make the field, but do not know how to race with a pack.
No.. stan had years of Indy car racing experience under his belt, a lot more than most of the drivers in the field that day. He did make a mistake, but it wasn't because of lack of experience. Just driver error.
PeterMayer, the biggest problem with youtube is that you don't need an i.q to post a remark. fox was a veteran driver and very experienced at his craft. what happened to him could happen(and has) to anyone. if stan fox was a joke then your the punchline dufus!!
This idiot is obviously a NASCAR fan. God I hope thoses hicks loose their popularity and indy car comes back. 50 miles an hour slower so you can read the advertising on the hood! yeah thats racing you dumb hick!
the commentators are really stupid and heartless..a devastating crash involving a driver with legs exposed and the motherfuckers are talking about debris and hiding the gravity of the situtation..fuck off the sponsors
- This clip reminds me how much I miss the spirited race commentary by the great Bobby Unser. He not only brought the clout of a 2-time Indy 500 winner, he exuded true passion for the sport. He was opinionated, but fair. Never bland. It's never been as good since his departure from the broadcast team.
- Very sad aspect of a wonderful sport, illustrated here w/the late Stan Fox.
- Eerie to hear, just before the accident, "Brayton begins to accelerate", knowing that he himself died there the next year.
- This was an underrated 500. It had drama, exciting lead changes, the unexpected (the late flub by Goodyear), and Jacques Villeneuve drove a fantastic race after his two-lap penalty. Not sure there has ever been another Indy 500 winner coming from 2 laps down (?).
There was no "flub by Goodyear" look at how close the field came to running over the pace car in this start and only the front 2 rows in line. Like the 1997 500, all the restarts were a complete mess and Goodyear ended up paying the price.
Yes, but it was Goodyear that was suppposed to pace the field back for the start. Goodyear just assumed the pace car would be out of the way. Goodyear's second mistake was passing the pacecar, everyone else knew to back off and stay behind the pace car or be penalized. Goodyear arrogently passed the pace car and, surprise, surprise, got penalized for it which cost him the win.
were pretty safer than Cart/Indy formula cars,but I wonder how would those frames and cockpits have been reacting when smashing headon at 200mph into a concrete wall.
Kubica's first impact was at approx.175mph. and with a bad angle as well,but not headon.Senna smashed sideway his car at approx.125mph against a concrete wall:the carbon fibre shell resulted almost intact in both accidents.
Dear slitheringinterstate, Has your brain been eaten out by worms? Nothing you say is correct. You are delusional. Go to the Democratic convention and be with your people.
How did he survive? If I had seen this live I would have been sure Fox was dead.I've seen this race on DVD and its one of the great Indy 500's,only this accident kind of ruins things.
he DID NOT have his llegs amputated at the track or anywhere stan fox recovered from thiswreck an died racong later stan fox DID NOT DIE IN THIS WRECK his legs were not broken you peopel got no idea what yer talkin about stan fox did NOT DIE as a result of the accident he dies in december 2000 in NEW ZEALAND in aheadon wreck on a regular road
Sir Stanley Fox unfortunately had his legs crushed in this accident and were broken in over 84 places, and both were immediately amuptated while he was still in the car on the track to avoid gangreen.
He lingered in deep depression in the hospital for nearly 3 years, and is said to have had only 2 visitors the entire time.
He hung himself with an I.V. bag on Jan. 23rd, 1998.
RIP Stanley...may a humiliating death come to "the villian", Edward Cheever.
Ah, everyone's favourite 'advanced autosport certified research analyst'. Brave effort, but the idea is to be clever (relatedly, it's 'gangrene') and amusing, not tiresome. I only hope that everyone else reading ignores you instead of granting you any further attention.
Enough of that. It's remarkable that Stan got out with his life, and a real shame that he would become another on the list of racing drivers to die in a road accident.
Firstly in relation to your comment, thank you for your attention.
Secondly, you are correct. Stan's passing in this road accident was a true shame, and is IS remarkable that he got out of this accident with his life and hovered in depressive lonely insanity for as long as he did.
RIP STAN...hasn't been a more tragic fatality in racing since Gordon Smiley at Daytona in 2001...
With due respect, I do beleive your information is inaccurate, at least partially. Gordon Smiley to my knowledge died in a horrifying head on collision with a wall, dying of a basilar skull fracture on the final lap of the Daytona 500.
Dale Earnhardt Sr was indeed also killed in a horror crash as you stated, however his was more gruesome, as he was decapitated when his roof was sheered off by a light tower, at Charlotte in 1996 :(
Whoa, whoa, whoa let's back up a bit. DE Sr. was the one who died of basilar skull in the 2001 Daytona race. Smiley died when he over corrected a loose condition in Turn 2 @ Indy and hit the wall perpendicularly. He died instantly.
I don't know what crash you are referring to at Charlotte in 1996. By the way, one of DE Sr. nicknames was "Ironhead" with his father having the nickname of "Ironheart".
I respect your disagreement, but I am very confident I am correct. As evidence, I have supplied video of the fatal Earnhardt Sr. decapitation during the Russell/Phillips 500 at Charlotte Motor Speedway (it was 1995, not 1996...)
Phillips is a major tobacco producer in the american southeast.
Have you consulted any books or texts to verify the year of Earnhardt's passing? With Smiley being killed at Daytona in 01, are you saying they were killed together? I doubt it.
fuckin moron earnhardt didnt get decapitated he hit a wall at daytona head on fuck face if you dont know your shit dont run your mouth and im a die hard earnhardt fan so im not wrong asshole your wrong get your facts straight idiot
I don't know why I am bothering but in the interests of completeness Russell Phillips was the name of the driver that was decapitated in a NASCAR sportsman race in 1995 at Charlotte. Smiley was killed in 1982 Earnhardt in 2001 champcar4ever is 100% correct
actually,the "intimidator"died to a rather inocous crash at Daytona,as his safety harness broke,causing his body to jolt violently over the steering wheel with the aforementioned consequences
also,Earnhardt was using a open-face helmet despite being advised by both fellow drivers,race inspectors and friends not to do so
NO Broken legs!!! MASSIVE Head Injury's!! (There were NO "H.A.N.S. device", back then). After getting back to "Sprint Car" racing, in 2 yrs., He was killed by a DUI Driver years later. -Cave
The announcers LACK of INFORMATION about Fox, spoke VOLUMES about the seriousness of the situation, especially since early in the segment they showed Fox, completely exposed, just sitting in the car remains. Racing announcers are ALWAYS QUICK to mention if the driver appears to be alright, if they are NOT doing that, especially if they are "ignoring" a driver in a serious crash, better start praying hard.
I was there sitting in turn 2 and remember thinking as I watched that he was going over the wall. Then when I could see his legs hanging out I thought he might be dead. A little rough for a then 14 year old.
Paul Page, Sam Posey and Bobby Unser were the best IndyCar announcing team ever, u moron. They were describing what was going on, and they had no reports on Fox. What the heck are they supposed to say? "O yea, Fox looks crushed, yea, look at the legs dangling, o yea". COME ON, MORON!
I will quote one of the announcers at about :42, "...debris, the main sad thing..." and then "...we see Stan Fox in front of us ... the biggest thing they have to worry about is cutting their tires..." in one sentence.
Its OK to fill silent air time but make sure you say the right thing!!
That was something for them to worry about! I'm not saying Fox being injured is nothing important, but they can't think about that. Plus, what is Paul Page, Sam Posey and Bobby Unser supposed to say? "O yea, Fox is laying there dying on the track, o dear me." NO!!! I think they did a good job handling this, they made a few mistakes, MINOR mistakes, but in all, it was a good job.
Unfortunately,Stan Fox would not survive another brush with death: on the Desert Road some 200 miles south of Auckland, New Zealand, Fox's van collided head on with a car. He was 48 years old.
He died December 18, 2000, near Waiouru, New Zealand)
My seat was above Foyt/Cheever pit. I grew up watching Foyt drive, and all I could think was, "I wouldn't want to be Cheever coming back to tell AJ he just wrecked his car, 1st lap!!!!!!!!
Oh, (debris)and debris Bobby debris Unser, shut the hell up, cheater!!
HOLY SHIT...SO THE MAIN PROBLEM IS DEBRIS o and that guy who is half out of the car into the wall but DEBRIS THE BIIIG STORY AND LOOK FOR THE DEBRIS AND DEBRIS DEBRIS DEBRIS
I remember this, I was like 9 I was pretty sad for Stan Fox, I cried a lil lol. He already had a leg issue and then when I see the accident I thought he might have been dead.
John Menard doesn't own anything in NA$CAR. He gives some sponsorship money to Robby Gordon and that's about it. His son, Paul(who always looks stoned) drives for DEI.
In interviews afterwards he said he was furious with Fox and he was going to go and yell at him; you can see his shock though as he turns around and sees the mess. He then felt bad about wanting to go punch Fox.
i was sat a few rows back.. happened right in front of us.. seem to remember it was Lynn St. James who actually caused it all(though I may be wrong).. front page of the next days paper was the image of Fox flying thru the air, legs and all.. glad when we heard he wasnt permanently damaged..
Don't think Fox would have survived this crash if it were 10 years earlier. Don't think he would have survived it at all if he didn't hit Cheever before hitting the wall either.
His legs were pretty much okay but he suffered a head injury that ended his racing. I will never forget how freaked out I was when I saw those legs hanging out of the car.
Stan never really recovered from the crash and he died in a road accident here in New Zealand. I saw him race here many times in his Midget.A sad loss
You can see the nose of Fox's car go shooting up the air, wings and all. Thats the big blue piece that you see rolling down the track right at the end of the video.
Yeah, like a few others I'm really surprised that the announcers made no big deal about it... slightly odd. I would think today they would be freaking out...
The announcers were trying not to get worked up about it on the air and you can actually hear them trying to find other things to talk about so as not to dwell on the fact that someone may have just died in front of live tv cameras.
I remember watching this live in Australia in the early hours of the morning. It made me sick, i thought i was seeing things when i saw his legs flapping about. I long for the Indycars of pre IRL, the greatest form of motor racing in the world.
He was knocked out from the first hit. Being unconscious his legs were dead weight which is better then being awake and tensing up on impact. It definitely kept his legs from breaking.
Yes,A personal letter sent to me by Stan,Word for word.Peter,I am doing everything to get better,the only problem is,I must have had one hell of a crash,because I am still not doing very well.Lets hope I am getting better,little by little,So long Pete.From Stan Fox,Nine Racing,P.O. Box 9327,South Laguna CA,92677.Rest in Peace,Stan,a great driver,and a great person.
Ever since I was 7 or 8 years old the Indy 500 has been my favorite sporting event and favorite day of the year. I was only 15 when this happened. I couldn't believe the announcers didn't mention that Fox's legs were dangling free. It made me sick to my stomach when I saw it. That just doesn't happen.
R.I.P. Stan Fox
OldSchoolNascar 1 month ago
If a crash like that happens in 1995, why was a similar accident allowed 16 years later?
andrewlawrence2209 3 months ago
CART cars were so beautiful...
paulomor 8 months ago 3
How do Indy starts work? Do they come up to the green flags full-speed?
mreed91 8 months ago
@mreed91 The polesitter is supposed to start slowly accelerating when they are between 3-4 and continue until the Green flag is waved. Then he goes balls to the walls and the others are supposed to do the same thing. They are not supposed to pass the polesitter until they pass the S/F. They are pretty much at full speed when they pass the S/F line, or at least close to it.
Jeb1945 6 months ago
@Jeb1945 Right...I wonder just what they used to consider "aligned grid", because, clearly, when you see the race official waving green flags, drivers are not even close to be 3-wide all around... =P
ATDOINFERNO 6 months ago
He was soooo lucky that he didnt go into the wall alone. Gordon smiley did pretty much the same thing at close to the same speed and smiley was killed. Also lucky he didnt get hit again after the nose was torn off.
utheman01 8 months ago
@utheman01 Smiley made a mistake and overcorrected the car, which wasn't the case with Fox.
erwinruys 1 month ago
Wow, Scott Brayton was the polesitter in this race. Unfortunately, he would die the next year during practice for this same race. Safety wasn't nearly as advanced as it is today.
italkart24racer 11 months ago
i always forget it,, is the indy 500 500 laps or 500 miles?
NewLeafNLC 1 year ago
@NewLeafNLC
Miles.
Unless otherwise stated, most all races in the US, the number in its title represents either the number of miles or (less often) kilometers (or estimation of) if the track is at or over a mile long, or laps, if the track is at or under a mile long
PYLrulz1984 1 year ago
This crash ended the career of Stan Fox.
taranchula97 1 year ago
at 1:23 You think De Farren thought his car could have been fixed in the pits? "Just change three of the tires I don't need the fourth." (I know that's what not happened just kidding since some people on you tube take everything so seriously)
spoung45a 1 year ago
Stan Fox, only bruises heel after his legs are dangling from this mid air flight!
Google "Stan Fox Indy Crash" for incredible still photos!
kcphotoman1 1 year ago
@kcphotoman1 you forgot the massive head injuries
TonyPizzaro 1 year ago
is as insane as the chariot race of antiquity. the difference is technology and the worldwide appeal hearing by the money the fame. lamentable. I was in my house watching live in Brazil. lation is too shocking
rone100theone 1 year ago
I love most forms of motorsports, but I have become annoyed at the outcomes of Indy car crashes. So many times the front sections of the cars detach and leave the driver body exposed. I mean why don't the employ a monoque+frame chassis on these cars. I understand that the cars will dissipate energy, but at the expense of the driver. Maybe I am out of touch I dunno...
jfrockon 2 years ago
@jfrockon I believe, even in this era, Indy cars were built to similar standards to Formula 1 cars. the thing to remember here is that F1 cars strike soft tire walls after slowing down for a short period. they usually dont hit anything faster than 120-140mph. Indy hits solid concrete at up to 230mph. i'm not sure much could survive that kind of hit without deforming significantly
mystrsyko 1 year ago
Thanks for uploading this.
I had forgotten how huge the crowds were back then, when open wheel racing was still great.
I remember how fun the whole month of May used to be...now, I could care less.
OboeCanAm 2 years ago
I don't really follow this kind of racing, but are the crowds small now?
jstrahan2 1 year ago
@jstrahan2 It's the largest single day sporting event in the world haha
GunsAndMonkeys 1 year ago
@ 3:36 , is that the same Robby Gordon that still runs in Nascar?
10TC55 2 years ago
Indeed it is
penske369 2 years ago
OMG. his legs were almost crushed between his car and the wall. oh fuck.
superdevins 2 years ago
you can see Fox's legs just flailing about in that last slow motion replay. urgh....
fanaticaluk 2 years ago
Whats so crazy is that Fox survived this crash and then died in a car wreck months later.
Villeneuve27 2 years ago
it was over 5 years later that he died.
njf520 2 years ago 2
Actually, this was 1995 and he died in 2000 (age 48) RIP Stan
spotttty 2 years ago
@Villeneuve27 he died 5 years later not months later
toma23rulz 7 months ago
if fox had been running by himself and up to full speed...... the angle in which he lost it and hit the wall reminds me alot of Gordon Smiley's tragic accident.
jbracer86 2 years ago
Open wheel racing on an oval track just seems crazy. They go 3 wide into a turn without lifting off the gas. It's amazing there aren't many more accidents like this one. So easy for the tires to touch and then it's all over.
dolina64 2 years ago
I remember watching this live in the UK - and after what had happened in F1 in '94, I was so relieved that no-one was killed.
Anybody know why the Menard team (Brayton, Luyendyk et al) dropped back after the start - they'd been the fastest in qualifying
theeviltwaz 2 years ago
i know this is mean but they dont have to use the jaws of life to get him out
jeffg24LT21 2 years ago
JESUS, fox, man thats insane hes lucky to still have legs
adampope64 2 years ago 12
actually, hes dead but not from this crash.
MortifiedPenguin275 2 years ago 2
You mean, he was lucky! Cause he is dead.
LoloGirl2484 2 years ago
@adampope64 i'm sure he'd much rather be alive.........because he's not.
penske13 1 year ago
@penske13
He did not die from this accident. He was ironically killed in a regular automobile accident in New Zealand years later.
savageindy 1 year ago
@adampope64 yeah he kinda died a while ago, you were better to sya he was lucky to still have legs
OSSEOslayerJR 4 months ago
His poor feet were dragging on the ground!----- The announcers didnt make any note of that they were just being dks about it and blaming the wreck on him
redsoxfan3443 2 years ago 5
I know! his feet and legs are crushe against the concrete wall at least three times. ugh
acoolguythree 2 years ago
"daybree"? debris sheesh
briandrum1 2 years ago 3
BAD!Stan Fox was lucky to still have his legs after this!RIP!
youzzernayme 2 years ago 5
Poor Stan was never the same after this.
bbr25 2 years ago 2
DialgaRules24 , I agree - they need to start the INDY 500 like this more often! Been going since 1982 - now they start all separated.
AmerkFlack 2 years ago 4
so they shuld start with someone dieing everytime??
makoshark40 2 years ago
Naw, just the high-speed, real close battle at the start.
Without the bad wreck, it probably would have been considered the most electrifying, exciting Indy start ever.
JoeytheHDK 2 years ago
Uh....no one died. Fox was pretty messed up but wasn't fatally injured.
westernpearl 2 years ago
A quote from another video on this crash, from a EMT
"That was the 2nd worst day of my life at IMS because I had to help clean up the accident and while we was putting Stan on the stretcher his helmet fell in two pieces in my hand and I though he was dead! "
I beleive Stan was killed in traffic accident in New Zeland in 2000??
R.I.P.
racefan32 2 years ago
holy crap! they need to start the races like this now
DialgaRules24 2 years ago
The only thing different these days is that Barnhart keeps telling them they're supposed to not pass the next car up on their row until they hit the line. The old rule was you could pass anyone on your row, not the next, between the short chute and the start/finish line. I.e., other cars on the front row, and especially the outside of the front row, could take the lead into turn one much more often, as they did in '82, '84, '85, '86, '89, '93 and '95.
VampireYoshi 2 years ago
@DialgaRules24 YES! Because everyone loves seeing serious career-ending injuries!!!! ***rolls eyes***
minonkracer 1 year ago
Geez, that was a messy start even before the crash.
bduddy55555 3 years ago 2
wow, crazy how relaxed the commentators were. I guess there were more bad wrecks back then
jkbnumber1 3 years ago
it is so sad men, he was a good driver
vzpchino 3 years ago
This was the last and final REAL Indy 500. The IRL (which I supported initially) totally destroyed indy car racing.
MVPVDO 3 years ago 16
@MVPVDO why support the irl?
FUCK202 11 months ago
And even if it had been Cheever who had lost control, who can talk about blame in a situation like this? The thing is that in that era of indycar racing a simple racing incident could turn disastrous in a fraction of a second.
This race did go on to be one of the best ever. I have just about the whole month on DVD and watch it every now and then. The sound these cars made was fantastic.
PinkRob0t 3 years ago 2
Wonder if Goodyear's spotter was screaming in his ear not to pass the pace car.
wildarms007 3 years ago
If Michael Andretti did not break his suspension he would have maybe won
Sabathiaman 3 years ago
That is a big if. He bounced it off the turn four wall and in true andretti fashion blamed someone else.
harleydog5555 3 years ago
WTF Cheever was doin on the grass? He lost control and went into Fox´ car, so it wasn´t his fault, but Cheever´s. And they crashed.
It was a big one. Fox was lucky, but some years later he had another crash and didn´t make it.
mfcr96 3 years ago
That was Fox on the grass, that's why he hit the wall at a sharper angle. Cheever was the one who got hit.
dsriggs 3 years ago 2
Retarded to say that he was in over his head. The idiot that posted that is obviously unaware that you have to test and be approved to be able to even QUALIFY for this race. Regardless of what this moron thinks...every driver in the field, every year, is qualified. You've probably never been over 65MPH in your life anyways.
dsmcclellan 3 years ago
wow whats was his nickname LUCKY.
gilly1961 3 years ago
actually, many called Stan Fox "Crazylegs" after this accident....
TedNes 3 years ago
id have more fun passing a kidney stone than watching oval racing. absolute garbage. F1 any day.
gilly1961 3 years ago
Don't comment if you don't know what you are talking about, you don't get to that level without earning it. For a professional to take a hard right like that something on the car had to have broken. Thank you and have a nice day.
blumpk1n 3 years ago
Stan Fox was in over his head. He should've never been out there. That's always been the problem with Indy are joke drivers that make the field, but do not know how to race with a pack.
PeterMayer 3 years ago
No.. stan had years of Indy car racing experience under his belt, a lot more than most of the drivers in the field that day. He did make a mistake, but it wasn't because of lack of experience. Just driver error.
Coogmaster2000 3 years ago
why do you believe that stan fox shouldnt have been in this race?
giang1 3 years ago 3
PeterMayer, the biggest problem with youtube is that you don't need an i.q to post a remark. fox was a veteran driver and very experienced at his craft. what happened to him could happen(and has) to anyone. if stan fox was a joke then your the punchline dufus!!
penske13 3 years ago
This idiot is obviously a NASCAR fan. God I hope thoses hicks loose their popularity and indy car comes back. 50 miles an hour slower so you can read the advertising on the hood! yeah thats racing you dumb hick!
mattjohnkearney 3 years ago
The only thing that will ever stop NASCAR is an economic crisis...
AaronApolloCamp 3 years ago
It seems to be helping it
EarnhardtsYear08 2 years ago
the commentators are really stupid and heartless..a devastating crash involving a driver with legs exposed and the motherfuckers are talking about debris and hiding the gravity of the situtation..fuck off the sponsors
ApocalipseForFree 3 years ago
no your wrong - they are proffessional, and know the gravity of these situations only too well,
topski100 3 years ago
did he died?
mar4eloser4e 3 years ago
No, he survived but died some years later in a road accident.
klesterchopperchipe 3 years ago
He survived the crash, but he sustained a pretty serious head injury. He was never the same after that.
DinsdalePiranha67 3 years ago
4th Thought:
- This clip reminds me how much I miss the spirited race commentary by the great Bobby Unser. He not only brought the clout of a 2-time Indy 500 winner, he exuded true passion for the sport. He was opinionated, but fair. Never bland. It's never been as good since his departure from the broadcast team.
pnutbutrncrackers 3 years ago
pnutbutrncrackers, the way that he and posey used to go at each other was fucking hilarious.
penske13 3 years ago
3 Thoughts:
- Very sad aspect of a wonderful sport, illustrated here w/the late Stan Fox.
- Eerie to hear, just before the accident, "Brayton begins to accelerate", knowing that he himself died there the next year.
- This was an underrated 500. It had drama, exciting lead changes, the unexpected (the late flub by Goodyear), and Jacques Villeneuve drove a fantastic race after his two-lap penalty. Not sure there has ever been another Indy 500 winner coming from 2 laps down (?).
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pnutbutrncrackers 3 years ago 2
There was no "flub by Goodyear" look at how close the field came to running over the pace car in this start and only the front 2 rows in line. Like the 1997 500, all the restarts were a complete mess and Goodyear ended up paying the price.
intensity74 3 years ago
Yes, but it was Goodyear that was suppposed to pace the field back for the start. Goodyear just assumed the pace car would be out of the way. Goodyear's second mistake was passing the pacecar, everyone else knew to back off and stay behind the pace car or be penalized. Goodyear arrogently passed the pace car and, surprise, surprise, got penalized for it which cost him the win.
nocalsteve 3 years ago
The Reynard's had a tendency to crack at the dashboard bulk head which is what caused Stan's car to break apart.
gymnastgirl97 3 years ago
holy freakin crap his legs slam against the wall
elGEHRKE 3 years ago
R.I.P
tompa666 3 years ago 2
jesus the front of his car is torn off you can see his bare body and legs slam against the wall
Shramir 3 years ago
Altho this is 1995 you would have thaught that the cars would have been made better than that i mean it might aswell have been made out paper.
robert kubica's crash in formula 1 last year was 5 times faster than this and his car was pretty much intact. Apart from the wheels .
thetntbone 3 years ago
That just shows how far car safety has come doesnt it! Alot of the crashes nowadays would have seriously injured or even killed drivers previously.
djrupture666 3 years ago
thetntbone-I guess that even back to 1995 F1
were pretty safer than Cart/Indy formula cars,but I wonder how would those frames and cockpits have been reacting when smashing headon at 200mph into a concrete wall.
Kubica's first impact was at approx.175mph. and with a bad angle as well,but not headon.Senna smashed sideway his car at approx.125mph against a concrete wall:the carbon fibre shell resulted almost intact in both accidents.
Hitting headon is uncommon in F1.
indigoblue555 3 years ago
Remarkably, his only injuries other than the head injury were little more than bruises.
savbyroy 3 years ago
slitheringinterstate why do you spend your time typing big ass paragraphs that is just nothing but shit?
e521soediv 3 years ago
Dear slitheringinterstate, Has your brain been eaten out by worms? Nothing you say is correct. You are delusional. Go to the Democratic convention and be with your people.
toadbelly1 3 years ago
Toad, you are correct that this "slithering" person is whack, but the facts are so completely wrong that I believe he writes in jest.
I'm a Democrat that loves racing. Who knew?
UncleWillis 3 years ago 2
Hi UncleWillis, You, obviously are one of the few sensible ones.
toadbelly1 3 years ago
I like to think that I'm sensible, too, and I'm a registered Democrat.
JoeytheHDK 3 years ago
How did he survive? If I had seen this live I would have been sure Fox was dead.I've seen this race on DVD and its one of the great Indy 500's,only this accident kind of ruins things.
swca92 3 years ago
he DID NOT have his llegs amputated at the track or anywhere stan fox recovered from thiswreck an died racong later stan fox DID NOT DIE IN THIS WRECK his legs were not broken you peopel got no idea what yer talkin about stan fox did NOT DIE as a result of the accident he dies in december 2000 in NEW ZEALAND in aheadon wreck on a regular road
QuikdrawlMcgraw 3 years ago
Sir Stanley Fox unfortunately had his legs crushed in this accident and were broken in over 84 places, and both were immediately amuptated while he was still in the car on the track to avoid gangreen.
He lingered in deep depression in the hospital for nearly 3 years, and is said to have had only 2 visitors the entire time.
He hung himself with an I.V. bag on Jan. 23rd, 1998.
RIP Stanley...may a humiliating death come to "the villian", Edward Cheever.
slitheringinterstate 3 years ago
Ah, everyone's favourite 'advanced autosport certified research analyst'. Brave effort, but the idea is to be clever (relatedly, it's 'gangrene') and amusing, not tiresome. I only hope that everyone else reading ignores you instead of granting you any further attention.
Enough of that. It's remarkable that Stan got out with his life, and a real shame that he would become another on the list of racing drivers to die in a road accident.
theycallhimsim 3 years ago 4
Theycallhimsim,
Firstly in relation to your comment, thank you for your attention.
Secondly, you are correct. Stan's passing in this road accident was a true shame, and is IS remarkable that he got out of this accident with his life and hovered in depressive lonely insanity for as long as he did.
RIP STAN...hasn't been a more tragic fatality in racing since Gordon Smiley at Daytona in 2001...
slitheringinterstate 3 years ago
I think of course you meant Dale Earnhardt. Smiley of course died at Indianapolis in 1982 in one of the most horrific crashes ever.
champcar4ever 3 years ago
Champcar4ever,
With due respect, I do beleive your information is inaccurate, at least partially. Gordon Smiley to my knowledge died in a horrifying head on collision with a wall, dying of a basilar skull fracture on the final lap of the Daytona 500.
Dale Earnhardt Sr was indeed also killed in a horror crash as you stated, however his was more gruesome, as he was decapitated when his roof was sheered off by a light tower, at Charlotte in 1996 :(
He was called "Old Ironheart"
slitheringinterstate 3 years ago
Whoa, whoa, whoa let's back up a bit. DE Sr. was the one who died of basilar skull in the 2001 Daytona race. Smiley died when he over corrected a loose condition in Turn 2 @ Indy and hit the wall perpendicularly. He died instantly.
I don't know what crash you are referring to at Charlotte in 1996. By the way, one of DE Sr. nicknames was "Ironhead" with his father having the nickname of "Ironheart".
champcar4ever 3 years ago
ChampCarForever,
I respect your disagreement, but I am very confident I am correct. As evidence, I have supplied video of the fatal Earnhardt Sr. decapitation during the Russell/Phillips 500 at Charlotte Motor Speedway (it was 1995, not 1996...)
Phillips is a major tobacco producer in the american southeast.
Have you consulted any books or texts to verify the year of Earnhardt's passing? With Smiley being killed at Daytona in 01, are you saying they were killed together? I doubt it.
slitheringinterstate 3 years ago
fuckin moron earnhardt didnt get decapitated he hit a wall at daytona head on fuck face if you dont know your shit dont run your mouth and im a die hard earnhardt fan so im not wrong asshole your wrong get your facts straight idiot
vdubracer33 3 years ago
I don't know why I am bothering but in the interests of completeness Russell Phillips was the name of the driver that was decapitated in a NASCAR sportsman race in 1995 at Charlotte. Smiley was killed in 1982 Earnhardt in 2001 champcar4ever is 100% correct
LB1973 3 years ago
nope,champcar's data is ok
and it goes further...
actually,the "intimidator"died to a rather inocous crash at Daytona,as his safety harness broke,causing his body to jolt violently over the steering wheel with the aforementioned consequences
also,Earnhardt was using a open-face helmet despite being advised by both fellow drivers,race inspectors and friends not to do so
ma55aracin9 3 years ago
It was actually Turn 3 not Turn 2 that Smiley crashed at.
champcar4ever 3 years ago
@slitheringinterstate Your thinking of Russel Phillups
cousinearl216 1 year ago
Who the fuck are you? Fuck off you stupid moron.
swca92 3 years ago
Stan, Talked on the "Address System" Next year.
NO Broken legs!!! MASSIVE Head Injury's!! (There were NO "H.A.N.S. device", back then). After getting back to "Sprint Car" racing, in 2 yrs., He was killed by a DUI Driver years later. -Cave
Caveman4860 3 years ago 3
omg.. watch at 2:13 or so, we clearely see that the front of the driver's car is no longer there and that he hits the wall with his legs
urmom1714 3 years ago
How long did Fox end up in a coma?
Buggy1Boy 3 years ago
I was surprised that the race was not red-flagged.
IllinoisHighwayMan 3 years ago 6
Yeah. But give them a break.
mandrake3k 3 years ago
The announcers LACK of INFORMATION about Fox, spoke VOLUMES about the seriousness of the situation, especially since early in the segment they showed Fox, completely exposed, just sitting in the car remains. Racing announcers are ALWAYS QUICK to mention if the driver appears to be alright, if they are NOT doing that, especially if they are "ignoring" a driver in a serious crash, better start praying hard.
1nm1 3 years ago 3
danger
DjMagnificien 3 years ago
im glad nothing happened like that today!!
amv101026 3 years ago 2
I was there sitting in turn 2 and remember thinking as I watched that he was going over the wall. Then when I could see his legs hanging out I thought he might be dead. A little rough for a then 14 year old.
failedtolaunch80 3 years ago 4
I was at that race, I was sitting on the front stretch though, glad I didn't see it, I was 14 at the time also.
nezy37 3 years ago
did he die?????
paaaaaz 3 years ago
No, he did die years later though.
altstiff 3 years ago 3
lol, the camera pans to stans car then the cameraman notices his legs visible OUTSIDE the car and quickly zooms out and pans away.
iwannabeatb 3 years ago
indy car is only for people who want to see other people die.
IN no toher racing series happens so many accidents with injured drivers.
Only a shitty american thing
DerBuhMan 3 years ago
I think that Scott passed Arie before the green flag dropped so he should have recived a penalty for that.
Dimage25 3 years ago
That is unreal, did Fox break his legs? He slammed that wall hard as hell
stewart20smoke 3 years ago
These announcers are so stupid...talking about debris when a driver clearly was suffering...
gth804f 3 years ago
Paul Page, Sam Posey and Bobby Unser were the best IndyCar announcing team ever, u moron. They were describing what was going on, and they had no reports on Fox. What the heck are they supposed to say? "O yea, Fox looks crushed, yea, look at the legs dangling, o yea". COME ON, MORON!
penske369 3 years ago 7
I will quote one of the announcers at about :42, "...debris, the main sad thing..." and then "...we see Stan Fox in front of us ... the biggest thing they have to worry about is cutting their tires..." in one sentence.
Its OK to fill silent air time but make sure you say the right thing!!
mcsew2k 3 years ago
That was something for them to worry about! I'm not saying Fox being injured is nothing important, but they can't think about that. Plus, what is Paul Page, Sam Posey and Bobby Unser supposed to say? "O yea, Fox is laying there dying on the track, o dear me." NO!!! I think they did a good job handling this, they made a few mistakes, MINOR mistakes, but in all, it was a good job.
penske369 3 years ago 6
The really sad thing about Stan Fox is the fact that he survied this and died in a normal road car accident !!!!!!!!
kevinlyth46 3 years ago 5
he did? Hell I dont know much about indy drivers
southernracer41 3 years ago
This is from wikipedia.
Unfortunately,Stan Fox would not survive another brush with death: on the Desert Road some 200 miles south of Auckland, New Zealand, Fox's van collided head on with a car. He was 48 years old.
He died December 18, 2000, near Waiouru, New Zealand)
cheshiredancer 3 years ago
Bobby Unser is a fucking idiot!!
chubsmagoo 3 years ago
u are a f---ing idiot
penske369 3 years ago
OOOOOUCH!
pedro7g5 3 years ago
My seat was above Foyt/Cheever pit. I grew up watching Foyt drive, and all I could think was, "I wouldn't want to be Cheever coming back to tell AJ he just wrecked his car, 1st lap!!!!!!!!
Oh, (debris)and debris Bobby debris Unser, shut the hell up, cheater!!
sledpuller 3 years ago
his legs werent even hurt during this wreck
coilerbobby 3 years ago
um.. yes they were
he broke them and his heels were rubbed down to the bone...literally
nicesoul1 3 years ago
No they weren't. He suffered only a heel bruise. That was from where it banged on the wing of Cheever's car.
johnnystir 3 years ago
They were not.Stans feet were the least of his problems from that crash.Internal and brain damage.R.I.P.Stan,he did what you cant.
12121149 3 years ago
The odd thing is that they really didn't act like anything happened to Fox.
CourtyardPigeon 3 years ago
HOLY SHIT...SO THE MAIN PROBLEM IS DEBRIS o and that guy who is half out of the car into the wall but DEBRIS THE BIIIG STORY AND LOOK FOR THE DEBRIS AND DEBRIS DEBRIS DEBRIS
vettedude418 3 years ago 9
I remember this, I was like 9 I was pretty sad for Stan Fox, I cried a lil lol. He already had a leg issue and then when I see the accident I thought he might have been dead.
ss4gg092 3 years ago
was that paul page commentating?
e521soediv 3 years ago 3
yes.
gentiloser 3 years ago
Man has page fallen, from doing indy to drag racing
nezy37 3 years ago
i know..it is soo sad..cause he is a good commentator
nicesoul1 3 years ago
if he didnt hit cheever he would have bounced back into the back of the field and cause an even worse multi-car accident
swca92 3 years ago
The last REAL Indy 500
fueldragster 4 years ago 9
Yeah. I wish I still had it. =(
Cynon44 3 years ago
stan mort
mumessil06 4 years ago
John Menard doesn't own anything in NA$CAR. He gives some sponsorship money to Robby Gordon and that's about it. His son, Paul(who always looks stoned) drives for DEI.
InvisibleTeeth 4 years ago
and sponsorship to DEI and builds engines
Randildo 4 years ago
man i wonder what cheever was thinking when he got out of his car and saw fox .... scary
mattgotowned 4 years ago 2
In interviews afterwards he said he was furious with Fox and he was going to go and yell at him; you can see his shock though as he turns around and sees the mess. He then felt bad about wanting to go punch Fox.
racekart6 4 years ago
i was sat a few rows back.. happened right in front of us.. seem to remember it was Lynn St. James who actually caused it all(though I may be wrong).. front page of the next days paper was the image of Fox flying thru the air, legs and all.. glad when we heard he wasnt permanently damaged..
namsicklz 4 years ago
Don't think Fox would have survived this crash if it were 10 years earlier. Don't think he would have survived it at all if he didn't hit Cheever before hitting the wall either.
tylertjp 4 years ago
OH SH...
pawel1818 4 years ago
His legs were pretty much okay but he suffered a head injury that ended his racing. I will never forget how freaked out I was when I saw those legs hanging out of the car.
ejconrad2001 4 years ago
rip??
Revigoe7 4 years ago
Stan never really recovered from the crash and he died in a road accident here in New Zealand. I saw him race here many times in his Midget.A sad loss
Morrari327 4 years ago
man racins racin, if its got wheels and a motor im all over it..although indy doesnt get the publicity it deserves
racefan815 4 years ago
HIS LEGS HIT THE WALL
andrea78df 4 years ago
You can see the nose of Fox's car go shooting up the air, wings and all. Thats the big blue piece that you see rolling down the track right at the end of the video.
Zoomer30 4 years ago
Yeah, like a few others I'm really surprised that the announcers made no big deal about it... slightly odd. I would think today they would be freaking out...
That's just sick.
g3adidas09 4 years ago
The announcers were trying not to get worked up about it on the air and you can actually hear them trying to find other things to talk about so as not to dwell on the fact that someone may have just died in front of live tv cameras.
Cheaz75 4 years ago 3
HIS LEGS HIT THE WALL.
puskish420 4 years ago
Scott Brayton, god rest his soul. No man enjoyed qualifying more than him. It's a shame him, nor owner John Menard never won the race.
racermac1988 4 years ago
I remember watching this live in Australia in the early hours of the morning. It made me sick, i thought i was seeing things when i saw his legs flapping about. I long for the Indycars of pre IRL, the greatest form of motor racing in the world.
sstevo05 4 years ago
He was knocked out from the first hit. Being unconscious his legs were dead weight which is better then being awake and tensing up on impact. It definitely kept his legs from breaking.
ciccone39 4 years ago
he hit the wall with his legs!!
bosepunkt 4 years ago
did u all know that ened up dieing 5 years later in a car accdent in new zeeland
jazzbo1974 4 years ago
Yes,A personal letter sent to me by Stan,Word for word.Peter,I am doing everything to get better,the only problem is,I must have had one hell of a crash,because I am still not doing very well.Lets hope I am getting better,little by little,So long Pete.From Stan Fox,Nine Racing,P.O. Box 9327,South Laguna CA,92677.Rest in Peace,Stan,a great driver,and a great person.
1633ruthlor 4 years ago
Ever since I was 7 or 8 years old the Indy 500 has been my favorite sporting event and favorite day of the year. I was only 15 when this happened. I couldn't believe the announcers didn't mention that Fox's legs were dangling free. It made me sick to my stomach when I saw it. That just doesn't happen.
schrack3000 4 years ago