Vinyl and CD vs Computer Based DJ

[jsol420]

He is clearly saying vinyl is the way to go. The static tells it all.

[beatzfromchicago]

this video was produced on a laptop. hahahaha

[empire562]

what happen ????? no sound

[skyfrog696969]

ahh load static

[TehSarro]

this is true HD audio

[kovam1812]

its amazing how far tech has come!

lmfao

[beepsbobby]

i cant here you

[c345w]

you cant beat vinyl, but i have just switched 2 traktor pro..... and i love it,, as long as your making musicit does not matter,, just embrace it all........ and love it,,,,,,

[hambone9119]

I Dont Dj and remix rock you dont do it i just play the music thru my direct drive Sony Turntables and these are 1980s turntables yes i also own some modern turntables but i love my classic turntables too much. im basically a heavy metal dj that just plays the music almost in its entirety i do edit certain parts for my enjoyment and if im in a club ill ad a little techno. ive messed around with the pc djaying but its really fun and challenging to dj with vinyl plus vinyl has more bass than cd

[hate8766654321]

u kan beat the classics,

enought said

[RustyBagels]

One thing i haven't heard anyone mention is that when DJing (and i've only been doing it for a few months but i have spun at a few house parties) i love looking at the crowd and feeding off the energy of people dancing. I use Stanton C.324's and even the 3x3 digital HUD gets distracting, to be staring at a computer screen youre entire set sounds pretty bland to me....

[sence1779]

i ues vdj i got a hercules mp3 mixer on mp pc and i think its briliant now my turn tabels are gathering dust in the cubord i can download any track i wont and when i got it mix it in seconds vdj all the way for me

[Primeval5]

I use the Torq Xponent to DJ only because it was cheap, but a good start. I plan on switching to becoming a CDJ.

[THE1DJJONES]

Then go out in the real world and play what you want to hear vs what your crowd wants. May it be a crowd of 2 or 2000. After they eat that djs ass up for breakfast, lunch and dinner we will see if they are a real dj or not. While the computer is looking for and loading your mp3 the 12s are already playing and that fine ass girl down front is shakin it. - Dj Jones

[THE1DJJONES]

First of all. Much respect to you and the DJs that started with there mama's turn tables in the living room. I've been spinnin since 1984. It took me about 10 years to switch and get use to cds. I am fighting the laptop transition. I tried a program that matches the beats and cross fades for the dj. THAT IS NOT DJING!!!!!! Untill the dj spins hours upon hours of practicing and sacrificing he or she aint did sh***t.

[vextrex25]

I agree with you. I've been spinnin since 1997

on vinyl. Im fighting the transition to CD's now. But this whole laptop thing is promoting fake jump on the band wagon wannabe People. I not going to give these people the honor of being called a DJ, there not even close. If you cant physically touch the media, then your not even close to a DJ. If you have not put hours of practice and dedication in learning how to manipulate vinyl, then your not a true pioneer of this art.

[ox66123]

amen :)

[NoxNoctisUmbra]

this was said before you.. real instruments vs a vynil... or maestro vs DJ.. it will never change, so its not disrespect...

[thegraynobleman]

Looking into trying to learn how to DJ and found your video to be an excellent take on the changes going on in the DJ world right now. Thanks for doing this!

[planetshane77]

For the most part, I'm with you on this subject.

I've sort of been forced to go digital. I spin industrial music and most of is does not exist on vinyl so I've got Numark's Virtual Vinyl so I can still use the turntables and run videos on the projector.

Last week one of my turntables failed on me. Freaked me out but my software allowed me to run my mix off 1 deck.

I think it's irresponsible to rely on 1 source of gear without some kind of backup.

[defcreator]

if you watch the DMC world DJ championships you'll see that all of the DJ's still use vinyl and 1210 decks...just because the organisation wants to keep it real and many people still appreciate the old-school way of mixin' & scratchin'.

[classikdjavue]

what you think about Rane Serato Scratch Live?

[DJSEvEN72]

You can allmost get the same sound on cd's as the vinyl, if you use a vaccume amp, like the cd's from LUXMAN, it's the closest analog sound i've ever heard on a cd.

And yeah, i agree, deejays use vinyl or cd's not pc shit, everyone thinks or wants to be a deejay. Face it, it's not all who can do it.

[mousmonke]

Ive been listening to electronic/house stuff for a long time and recently started playing around mixing at home. I bought a Denon cd deck and was using my laptop. But you know what, it almost takes some of the fun and 'real factor' out of it. Looking at BPM numbers track ID's blah blah blah... So guess what, two weeks ago I bought a turntable.. Since have bought about 70 records.. vinyl isnt hard to find either. Im not even a dj, and dont plan to be.. screw those laptop guys; anyone can do that.

[Technics147]

Which is better, Serato, or Traktor?

[djphunknasty]

Serato, without question

[scantlander]

Depends what your in to. If your a turn-tablist then Serato.. if your more into beat mixing, I would say Traktor3 is a better program.

[roapr5150]

What are you going to do when you just can't get those records and cd's anymore?

I see a lot of advantages with using a PC for DJing. I think it allows DJ's to be more creative with their mixing but at the same time I feel it is irresponsible for anyone to depend only on a computer without having some physical backup media. Always bring records no matter what.

[mousmonke]

Everything is going digital. Its just the issue of any person running down to guitar center, buying the stuff and saying your a DJ. Guys here at clubs show up with a laptop and thats it, whooo your a dj? Oh me too! lol. My first trip to guitar center, the guys wanted to sell me software instead of actual decks!!! Whats up with that??

[scantlander]

I have nothing but respect for Vinyl and CD DJ's but with the technology we have today... why wouldn't you add a laptop to your equipment. Programs like Traktor3 allow you to have 2 digital decks and 2 external decks. Imagine the possibilities having 4 decks and 40 gigs of music to go with the turntables.

I'm using Traktor3 with a BCD3000 mixer. I've been producing for years but just recently started DJing and for beginners it's da shit!

[ssssroryssss2]

djphunknasty what do you think about Native Instruments Traktor Scratch?

[djphunknasty]

Not sure about the newest version of it, since I've never used it. I do know that the original first 2 versions of it were absolute crap though, especially compared to Serato. The only one I've even consider trying other than Serato live may be M-Audio's Torq, but even that one can be sketchy I hear.

[ssssroryssss2]

I don't know which version that one of my friends had and I'm not a DJ but, I couldn't tell the difference between it and real vinyl. He is a scratch DJ and he said that he couldn't tell if there was any latency. He did have the Native Instruments audio interface to connect his 1210's with the timecoded vinyl. Maybe thats the future.

[djphunknasty]

It may be! I do use Serato Scratch, which seems to be the most popular one at this time. Not cheap though, the interface alone is around $500.

[franuba]

my uncle is teaching how to dj on some technics 1200's

he's been dj'in for over 20 years and he thinks the only way to show your true skills is on some 12's

i think using all that computer stuff is for fags that want the title dj

am also a little upset when ever i see famous dj's like bennasi, and other dj's using those computer shits.

[rachitkunwar]

I am not a DJ and don't know much about it, but i want to get into it. I want to know what y'all think about Hercules MK2? coz i've seen(on youtube) a lot of dj's using it and i think they do nice mixing. Peace

[djphunknasty]

Nah stay away from that thing, I had one, its nothing but a toy that no serious DJ would ever consider using. Get the real DJ hardware (e.g. turntables or CD decks) to start..

[djheadrush]

"...a slap in the face..."?!? You sound like one of those old guys talking about "when I was young, I had to walk 20 blocks...blah blah blah". Don't be afraid, my friend, PCs won't replace good track selection, or the skill of "reading" a crowd. I say, bring on the robots!

[djphunknasty]

True that, but I guess I'm an old-schooler at heart. I won't give up my vinyl as long as they're still making them ;) Besides, rocking turntables in my mind will ALWAYS look alot cooler than moving a mouse on a friggin laptop, ya know?

[djheadrush]

agreed. but that's just a matter of style, which is always a moving target, for me anyway. peace

[alman53]

The Loudness war is killing the sound quality on CD's these days, while the sound quality of vinyl is much more stable.

[bluetech7753]

I am not a DJ but I do like to mess around with DJ gear. I don't really think all computer djing is the best. For one your computer can crash in the middle of a gig then what you do? Hard drives give out after about two to three years. I would much rather have the physical gear in front of me like the turn table or the CDJ 1000 Plus you can also rip mp3's to CD and play them on a CDJ.

peace.

[LeeJody]

I just think its important to remember what DJing is, I think the actual mixing of records adds up to around 5% of what makes a good set. It's all about what is played & thinking about how you're going to structure everything to get the crowd moving. That's something a PC will never be able to do.

[r3alista69]

You know I can agree with you the the majority of mixing can be equated to less than the amount it takes to hear a track normally but unless your a Hip-hop DJ or a quick mix DJ 5% is way to low. I actually prefer the guys who make a nice long mix. I love hearing something new thrown into a song or beat I am fond of while they are actually mixing another track into it.

I do agree that a PC will never be as good or as real as a person's imagination and creativity.:)

[vextrex25]

I agree with you 100%

[xezarac]

how do you feel about Serato Scratch Live? the only pro thing i see in digital dj, is that you can play music that you dont have on vynil or cd´s and you can still mix with out using auto-beat match

[djphunknasty]

Serato is cool with me. As long as there's real hardward involved with the laptop setup. What I don't approve of are these guys DJ'ing with a laptop and a mouse, and who let the computer do all the work for them. Poser-ish if ya ask me. I like and support Serato and use it myself now. See my other videos. I think its the best $500 I've spent in awhile now.

[aidsgunz]

this really helped man, i actually wan tto become a dj, and this really helped me make some choices, but i still want to know whci is a good system to get, like equipment, thats good for a beginner, and isnt expensive. can u help me please? and can it be direct crive like u said? thank you,

Daniel Gonzalez

[djphunknasty]

Hi Daniel,

Check out my other videos for this information. I go in depth in many areas.

[aidsgunz]

oh ok, thanks, i actually have, and now im looking for some technics on ebay, haha thanks bro, but i saw ur mixer video, but i stil ldont know which to get, i want a scratch mixer, but idk if rane, pioneer, or denon is better?

[djphunknasty]

You can't go wrong with any of those 3 brands, just find one you like in your price range. 2 channels are good for scratching.

Rane and Pioneer both make incredibly good two channel scratch mixers.

[aidsgunz]

alright!! thank u man, u really helped out alot!! and i scribbled down some of those websites u said on the other tutorial! so thanks! ur the man! peace!

[viper0463]

I also want to say that I do think that if a computer is being used then some form of a controller is nessasary!! The programs that try to do it all are not for a professional DJ they are for people who want a jukebox. That includes club and bar owners who pay these guys to come out and use just a computer. A computer cannot replace a real DJ but it can and does help one out. Once again a controller is needed, timecode, duel controller or all in one controller. Something to put your hands on.

[djphunknasty]

I agree you with completely there Viper. That's why although I'm against the "Anyone can be a DJ with this software" mentality. However, I do support Serato as it is only an aid, and not a "DJ In A Box" type of solution.

[viper0463]

I started with turntables 19 years ago, 12 years ago moved to cd's and vinyl, 8 years ago to straight cd's, and 2 years ago to cd's and computer. My next move is to either dvd players or computer with timecode to play video the price at this point is what makes the difference as this is how I make money. As far as what's better I don't know or care I just enjoy what I do. As long as the show goes on I don't care how it happens. Computers aren't like old school and the music today isn't either

[jdub1023]

hey, yea computer is nothing like the old school stuff, but its so much easier just to have ur laptop insted of having a billion cds or records to carry, i mean i use itunes so i burn cds then use them to play em on my dj software, but its still so much easier to do it on ur computer then it is to have all that extra stuff to buy and use

[Xylence]

COMPUTER WILL NEVER REPLACE TRADITION! I DON'T LIKe IT... I DON'T LIKE IT AT ALL! They're replacing us with computers... BASTARDS!

[Xylence]

I mean it's like going to your computer, looking up an image on the internet, printing it out and then saying it's yours (sort of)

[drjackohollious]

Bro, good to see you making new vids. i like your older videos and im now listing to the first 30 seconds of your new vid. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. -jw-

[TebulotVIII]

I believe in front of the crowd, it's the music, not the means.

[djphunknasty]

Maybe so, but wait and see when the laptop crashes in the middle of the gig. What will they say then? There's no quick recovery from that.

[TebulotVIII]

Point taken. What I mean is the CD/Vinyl argument :)

[snak5]

you look like an hip hop dj i'm right?? anyway, my opinion is that if you want to scratch and do all the hip hop stuff, vinyl is way better because you get the physical feeling of what you're doing, but computer is useful if you have to do all that song selection and keymixing stuff that you have to do in techno trance house etc because it gives more space to your creativity, and if a noob can be a dj, just imagine what a good dj can do with a laptop. of course the problem of mp3 quality remains

[djphunknasty]

I do hip hop as well as other genres.. But I DO use Serato, I think alot of people here misunderstood me.. I'm more referring to the programs and the guys that come into a gig with a laptop or a LAME iPOD and nothing else, alot of which use a mouse to DJ with... Know what I mean? To me, using serato is no different than using two turntables with real vinyl.

[geodudegeo]

im a noob dj that recently jumped onto the laptop dj scene after saving up money by djing with a ion icd02. i copped that total control for my numark cue that i have on my laptop cause i wasnt gonna point and click my way into being a laptop dj. my total control offers a lot more control over the software than by keyboard and mouse alone. and it makes me look like i am doing something other that clicking.

[geodudegeo]

but the scratch wheels did not have that scratching effect that i wanted. so i bought 2 turntables along with virtual vinyl. there is nothing like vinyl and nothing can compare. i think laptop djing is a great addition to vinyl djing because it opens it up to do much more with ur sound. i know nothing can reproduce the sound of vinyl but let me see u try and do a seemless loop or on a turntable.

[djphunknasty]

Serato will!! I'm not opposed to Serato, I use it myself. More what I am referring to are those programs that claim "Auto beat matching at a touch of a button", etc. etc.. They are glamorizing DJ'ing now as a fad, or a hobby, not as a professional career or something that alot of people take seriously, that's all.

[geodudegeo]

i stand by laptop dj 100% cause im not one of those fake ones that use the comps touch pad mouse to mix. laptop dj can be just as good as oldschool djing, it just depends on the dj. mouse clicking fake or put on a real show. other than that the only argument i see between laptop and vinyl is sound quality

[Criticizin]

U can even do this without lookin at ur computer screen, just select the track, cue it, and mix it like u would with vinyl instead of hitting the auto sync button to make transitions.

I find that havin a laptop is convenient as u can store a HUGE amount of music includin rippin tunes from ur precious vinyl collection.

SERATO IS THE FUTURE!! and now it does VIDEO!!

[Criticizin]

As far as the whole automatic syncing thing, I feel that it is the cheating part or lazy way of DJin bcoz it actually takes away the whole purpose of DJin. I prefer to actually mix using the pitch on my TT's bcoz personally i'm more a hands on person and love the feelin of manipulating vinyl or in this case timecoded vinyl.

[Criticizin]

Im only gonna give my opinion on SSL as this is the only software I use, so here is my two cents..

I feel that Serato is not a cheating way to DJ, you can be as creative as you want and u dnt have to be a Hip Hop DJ or Turnablist to enjoy it.

So for those who slate laptop DJ's. Not all of us use the programs to automatically mix for us. With Serato sure it tells you the BPM but that just helps you organise ur crates as u would do with ur record collection/cds right?

[srxshadow]

I don't see it as a slap in the face or disrespectful. It's just a different approach to DJ-ing, it can be just as creative and fun as turntables. Most people that enjoy real DJs won't be satisfied with pure pc crap anyway. If it sounds better and it's easier then great,more enthusiasts might be more likely to get involved!

[tableturns77]

This digital shit doesnt even come close to the real thing. Its people like them who are ruining it for us real vinyl djs. Everyone is so lazy nowadays, oh no i gotta carry a record bag with me oh no its heavy i might die or oh no i have to pay extra to buy records when i can download free shit off the net, but 6 years ago noone had a problem with buying vinyl. You know whats gonna happen.. You got all this software that will match the beats for them and anyone will be able to be a dj.

[djphunknasty]

tableturns77, agreed 100%!!

[efFd4SniTcH]

word...personally i've djed for 10 years, 9 years on vinyl just made my switch to serato...i don't see anything wrong with serato-it's great! I still use vinyl off course nothing beats real vinyl, but its a lil easier to travel( i can't stand people who stare at there screen to beatmatch though..)...but virtaul djs, ipod djs... wtf seriously that's lame XD

[tableturns77]

yea i guess serato is aight in my book cuz u still get to use vinyl

[battista03]

Dj = Disk Jokey.

Laptop = No disk.

Theoretically impossible for them even to be 'djs'. I'm with you, laptops and software defeat the purpose.

Out of curiousity man, what genre of music do you play?

[djphunknasty]

Hi Battista, On my own, I normally play alot of hard house... In clubs in my area, its mostly hip-hop, Top 40 shit... Not my choice, but I'm in a shitty venue for music variety.

[DjRadiRKJ]

Couldent scratch fore a fuck.... HAHHA!! xD

[Jarrelarre]

And one main future vinyl has ALL undergound music. Im a hardstyle/hardcore junkie and vinyl is almost the only option. Sure you can get a mp3 rip but then again if you love music you wont settle for "loss" in your music as mp3 gives.

And those who buy vinyls often has thier own style of music they know whats good and not. They are not only into djing but they are into the music it self. Many laptop djs just download the latest top50 MTV! in 128kbps and play it hand down..

[Jarrelarre]

I would not say that vinyl sounds better then CD. However the bass and the warmth is something CD dont have. Cd feels more empty then vinyl but clearer. BUt with decent gear you can get vinyl to sound (a fresh one) to sound very clean too and still have that rich nice sound too it.

Why i respect vinyl djs more is for a the main reason. THEY BUY THIER MUSIC!. I dont say that all cd djs dont but alot of them plays thier shitty 128kbps mp3s that sounds terrable.

[LeeJody]

Just the slight difference that CD-DJ's are DJ's and V-DJ's are V-DJ's =P

Only similarity I can see is the Pioneer CDJ-1000 looking almost exactly the same as the Pioneer video deck (dunno what its called).

[DJDcn]

if you think about it, the VDJ compared to a CDDJ arent too far off. kjcorder,

so true... i use vinyl and i love vinyl

[kjcorder]

hit me back if you have any questions about more of it since it seems like there is still a lot of "purists" as you put it responding. im definately an objective view point and think they all have different niches.

[kjcorder]

there is just that intermediary of the computer software. I personally am just getting started on VDJ software/equipment as a side hobby but LOVE the sound of vinyl. it all really depends on WHO is using the equipment and how they are using it. Like i said, a VDJ who is actually doing the mixing, beatmatching, cueing, fading etc, is diffeent from a "VDJ" who presses play and leaves the booth...

[kjcorder]

i understand what you are saying about the "automatic" features of the virtual dj decks etc. however, they are just that... FEATURES!... many of the software titles out there allow you to do it in the traditional fashion (headphone cueing etc) you dont HAVE to use the automatic built ins. sure they are there for the "phonies" or posers (whatever you want to call them). if you think about it, the VDJ compared to a CDDJ arent too far off.

[LeeJody]

What is the death of vinyl though ? Theres always gonna be purists that refuse to work with anything else, at least for another 10years as you said.

[LeeJody]

I think vinyl will die. Theres bound to be a point when vinyl sales are so low thats its not profitable to produce it anymore.

[djmooven]

vinyl won't die in australia for about 10 odd years

[oscarthedread]

I agree 100% I use vynil and bring my laptop to drop dubplates & sound fx like a dr.sample and record the show if I think its worth it. Vinyl will never die. I live for the pops the crackle and the large album covers. digital may or maynot be a cleaner sound but anilog is good for the soul.

[ItsjustPrime]

It sounds like your just whinning about the whole situation. Example...Do you enjoy movies with only subtittles? Movies filmed here in the states but are not in english? I know I dont. I hate them. Even if its a good movie, I wont watch it because I feel that I loose certain aspects of "watching" a movie when I have to pay attention to sub tittles. I guess what Im trying to say is...to the audience, its not about authenticity or the roots, its about the final product!

[LeeJody]

Its nice to hear a good, smooth mix but I go clubbing for the tunes and not the mixing. Doesn't matter what is used to play the tunes I think, makes no difference.

[LeeJody]

I also know of a lot of DJ's that play in popular bars around my town. Some can't mix, even ones that claim to have been DJing for 15years or more. But its OK because they know how to get the crowd jumping. For me thats the only thing that matters.

[LeeJody]

It doesn't matter what gear is used. The average clubber on the dancefloor isn't gonna notice any difference. All that matters for a DJ is that he is able to deliver a good diverse & structured set.

Any clown can mix two records, whether its using Vinyl, CD or from a laptop.

[djphunknasty]

"Any clown can mix two records." You'd be VERY surprised my friend, at the number of DJ's I've seen in fairly big clubs who do not even know how to beatmatch, let alone scratch. Serato is fine, but using just a laptop, I don't have alot of respect for those guys.

[DjLeChevalier]

I think its a generational gap. I have huge amounts for respect for vinyl DJ's. But the younger generations look at that as old and dying technology. I think the best mid point between computer and vinyl is the EKS XP 10's They're physical turntables using digital music. i think this is where the DJing market is going

[djphunknasty]

DjLeChevalier, those XP 10's are most definitely NOT real turntables. They are controllers that try and mimic the CDJ-1000 look.

[DjLeChevalier]

O no i realize that they have a totally diffrent feel and style to them. and its once again digital VS analog. I'm just saying if you want to hook up to a computer and try to get the same look, at least, then its a decemt way to go. I agree 100% they're not real turn tables any fool can use them

[RemindX]

i think 4 dj the new one they comming like me ^^ use cd but 4 the older one they (thing) vinyl is better. I think sounds like the same because never heart on a vinyl... but keep going bro u did a good job :)

[djphunknasty]

Once again, I will emphasize, a better frequency or bass response, or even a better dynamic range has everything to do with sonic ACCURACY and nothing to do with sonic QUALITY. I am talking about the clarity and quality of sound here, not the actual representation of it hertz for hertz.

[djfrequencyyaya]

Im not sure but in the beginning of your video u said that the quality of cd's is better? Not True! Although a dirty vinyl will have those clicks and pops a clean vinyl is FAR superior to a cd. Look up the numbers my friend the quality of a vinyl is superior to cd's, only when the vinyl is dirty will you get that clicks and pop as u know but freqeuncy response off vinyl is better.

[djphunknasty]

I think you'd have ALOT of people disagreein'with ya on that one, buddy!! There's a reason Cd's are the most popular music media out there now, and it's not the size.

[djfrequencyyaya]

I am one hundred percent positive of the fact my friend I too run a studio, why do you think people sample their stuff off vinyl when producing? Because vinyl is a better quality, look up the numbers my friend.... GUARANTEED

[djphunknasty]

People sample their stuff off of vinyl because it goes hand in hand with turntables and alot of that older stuff can be hard to find on cd, if not impossible. It has nothing to do with the quality. As far as studios goes, that says nothing, anyone can run a studio these days.

[djphunknasty]

I've seen guys run studios and blow all that coin and have hardly any knowledge at all what they are doing. Analog may be able to preserve all frequencies in the range, that CDs lose, however, to say the QUALITY is better, is pretty far-fetched. Accuracy? Maybe. Quality? No way Jose.

[monnie110]

Believe it or not, he is correct. The reason Vinyl can have a better sound is do to the Hz frequency span. Though it is not true that people sample off vynil for better sound. They do it for convenience. Vinyl has better sound but only on a fresh new vinyl.

[monnie110]

Another comment to add is that because of the Hz frequency, Vinyl is able to put out a much better bass sound and the bass spots take up longer lanes on the record. The more bass you got on Vinyl, the less songs you can fit on it.

[djfrequencyyaya]

Yes monnie youve got it, and as for the dirty vinyl issue if you maintain your vinyl well that should never be an issue.... On the flipside a person can jus as easily scratch a cd and still obtain a clicking sound or even worse a skip! Bottom line vinyl is far superior, anyone out there that does not agree google it and find out for yourself(which is better vinyl or cd) all the information a person needs is out there you just have to look.. Have a good day..

[djphunknasty]

Akasha, yeah I was referring to the CDJ 800's and 1000's in the video, not the older 100's, 500's, etc.. Most of the time when you mention CDJ people assume the 1000, because its the club standard for CD players nowadays.

[AkashaPrinciple]

CDj's have worked their way into being used side-by-side with turntables, but i dont think you will EVER walk into a club that has only CDj's and no turntables. CDj's are prly, like you said, a very similar medium to use. CDj's have been around for AGES now, and only in the last decade or so, they have been changed to include a platter on the top (they havent always been this way)

[AkashaPrinciple]

Well said mate. I agree, Vinyl is the godfather and will always remain the "majority" of proffesional DJ's medium of choice, for obvious reasons.

[Darkcloud2218]

Also, I don't do anything that feels like "Cheating". Most people aren't like that, but I've always been able to police myself. (No beat-matching button for me)

[Darkcloud2218]

I use virtual tables with a mouse/keyboard since I'm broke *Pirate grunt*; although, a close friend has tables that I practice on too. I find that V-DX have a lot of downfalls too. I know this is only in my personal situation, but basically I only get to use 1 finger and a few keyboard micros to do the actual bulk of the mix. (move the fader, eq, ect)

Real stuff is a lot harder to beat-match and pitch control.

[djphunknasty]

jamesrossceller, I agree to an extent. It is definitely largely "about the music." However, companies have been marketing the DJ trade lately as more of a fad or hobby, rather than a serious passion, form of musical expression, or even a business! They are marketing it largely as a "new fad" claiming that anyone can be a DJ, just press this button, and buy this all-in-one kit. All the old schoolers know that this is serious marketing B.S. and is used to make money, not to respect the craft.

[djphunknasty]

Seabrookchive, Agreed!! Bigmoney747. For CD dj'ing I personally use 2 Pioneer CDJ-1000's as they're the closest to real vinyl that I've used. I've also used the Denon DN-S3500's with mixed results. Normally though I use the good ol' Technics SL-1200 MK2's.

[Bigmoney747]

What set up do you use when you dj for cds

[seabrookchive]

If you can mix on vinyl you can mix on anything

[jamesrossceller]

to be honest its not all about the equipment, its all about the music, if people wanna mix music with computer programs let them, the whole world noes that vinyl is a skill and is by far harder than programs like tracktor dj studio ect. remember its about making the music not how u make it. u think people in a club care weather or not hes mixing with decks or not? i dont think so. post back id like to hear what u think DJ`Celler outttttt

[djphunknasty]

I actually think Serato is ok, pretty much for the reason you just posted. It's more like laptop assistance, using the laptop to make things easier, and more songs available. It doesn't take away from the actual performace aspect. I think that Serato is a good POSITIVE example of laptop DJ'ing. What I'm referring to mostly by a "slap in the face" are the ones that even advertise "One button beatmatching" or Scratch like the pros!

[bevboyz]

good vid...

what is your opinion on vinyl emulation eg. final scratch or serato scratch live.i use that and obviously have to dj properly and mix properly as im using vinyl....do you see that as a slap in the face or is that ok...i still buy normal vinyl but can use mp3s also.

imo dj-ing is no easier as i still have to cue up and you cannot let it beatmatch for you.

what do you guys think?

[DAWLUGZ]

Its the dominoe effect of music or the music chain. Im a musician. I play with my hands.Then to see someone play anything at the push of a button is not real. Check pout my music on my space. LUGOMIX.

[m3kkR]

Oh, forgot, you made a good point on working your way up and learning the skills before you can just off and do it.

[m3kkR]

Hey man thanks for uploading that. I enjoyed it.

:)

dj fucking hell I don't have a dj name yet.

[kittercat]

When you see a DJ on turntables you know you've got a real party, everyone and your one-armed grandmother can pull up a laptop and mix a beat, I think it's not as aesthetically pleasing when you want a party and a dude is sitting down tapping on a keyboard. lame.