"Each Chevy Volt (has) $250,000 in state and federal dollars in incentives - $3 billion altogether...total state and federal assistance offered for the development and production of the Chevy Volt...18 government deals that included loans, rebates, grants and tax credits...GM is currently 26% owned by the federal government...According to GM CEO Dan Akerson, the average Volt owner makes $170,000 per year."
---James Hohman, assistant director of fiscal policy, Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
@SchlossOtranto the government needs to get out of the auto industry. The Volt is one of the biggest disasters out there, yet they keep pushing that pile of crap.
@MrEnergyCzar you drove 1,300 miles the first month using 1 gallon with your Volt. How about the amount of extra CO2 and other gases did you make power plants produce when recharging knowing that America's power plants are mostly oil, gas and coal fired ?
Not to mention those batteries are lithium ion and lithium is very rare, mostly found in China, they'll just pollute more to extract and meet your demand of batteries. You're just moving your problem in the neighbor's garden.
@gogole4 My goal was to use less oil as an end user with no range anxiety and only one car. Even though I make my own electricity from the sun the solar panels still takes energy to make etc...
@MrEnergyCzar To add to gogole4's comments, you have an additional problem with Electric&Hybryds, what do you do about "battery" disposal? Another enviornmental nightmare coming to you from your government. The ONLY longterm answer to replacing gasoline is liquid hydrogen (NOT hydrogen fuel cell either). Recip engines can run on it and there's lots of seawater to make it from. Are their problems with LH, yes of course, but over the next 30 years we can overcome those technical problems.
Nobody buys electric or hybrid cars to look cool. Frankly, I could care less how it looks. It could look like a brick as long as I get the best gas mileage possible.
it goes up to 35 miles on a charge? That's a savings of maybe 1 gallon (or $3.50) of gasoline, and it takes 10 hours of charging to get that 35 miles? WOW...this is the savior of our planet! And to all the tree huggers that say "every gallon counts"....How much extra energy is required to build the battery, etc. for this car? Not to mention the environmental costs of disposing of it when the time comes!
Gasoline cars are hundreds of times cleaner and more efficient than they were 30 years ago
@sandmanmac If your car goes 35 miles in one gallon thats impressive. I see where you are going, but you are WAY over the top. It does save over time, in the 5 years it takes to pay off the car i bet some people can save up to $10,000 on gas. Im not saying I'm going to buy one, but when gas prices are $7 in the next couple years, you and me are going to be sorry.
Gasoline cars are not 100x cleaner than they were, its still gasoline!!
@chalms88 no one wants that car, it is a commercial disaster and only an idiot would buy one. Check out lithium mining and tell me you are saving the environment....
@cheerleader200fly What is the problem with the oil? Until they perfect a better battery and better cars that can actually pull a trailer or a boat, you might as well consider these cars as suped-up golf carts. Tell me, can you get by without oil?
@cheerleader200fly are you familiar with lithium mining? Tell me how you can even survive without oil? Everything you use, from clothing to food requires the use of petroleum. Even the volt requires it.
@hopeurforfreedom The oil is a good find and we thank the nature, but we have problem, the oil supplies are running out fast. So, the energy that we need now is in the Photovoltaic Energy, Wave Energy, Nuclear Energy, Wind Energy and Fusion Energy, all of this are inexhaustible natural resources and friendly with the environment.
@cheerleader200fly Oil is not running out anytime soon. Nuclear won't get past the leftists, though I agree we need more nuclear. The other energies you named can only compliment oil and natural gas, as natural gas is the fuel that is of this century.
Ive been hearing my entire life, we are running out of fossil fuel...thats about 48 years of understanding the concept....it aint happened yet. In fact, we keep findng new reserves and on and on and on and on. Typical human hysteria. Our credibility is shot as far as "sounding the alarm". The result, less and less will take heed. The boy that cried wolf.
Fossil fuels will run out. Natural seed / plant oils will be able to replace it for a while, but the price will be HUGE as its very inefficient to make. Hydrogen is the way to go - for now.
Average driver in the U.S. drives 12,500 miles per year. Average price of gasoline is $3.64 a gallon. $40,000 electric car? It would take the average person 10+ years to even see gains, hence this car is worthless. Get back to the drawing board GM because sticking laptop batteries in a car is not working.
@SenorStrange Much longer than that. I don't think these kids have sat down and number crunched the cost. Not to mention how many of them are ignorant when it comes to macro/micro economics and just life in general.
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Costco is reversing course and pulling its chargers out of the ground, explaining that customers do not use them.There are literally millions no, thousands no, hundreds no, dozens of those entering the market on a monthly basis. Won’t be long and car companies will be paying people to drive these things so they can comply with the mileage standards imposed by biggov.
Not many people in America are Converting their cars to electric. One reason is because they don't know how. The second is because they don't have the money or think it would be too expensive. We gotta tell people it's not that difficult to build an EV. Buy an old Truck for $2,500. Buy a Magnetic Motor and Generator. Get your Transformer and Ultra-Capacitor. Then search for a Lithium-ion Battery pack Large enough to keep the charge goin'. You got yourself 350 Miles of Electric Drive.
@heartlessvietboy Americans don't want to drive an old truck. And they don't want to be part of the Prius stigma, either. It's stupid, but true. Americant's!
Who are those Americans? A consistent 50 MPG car does good. A 12 Gallon Gas Tank at $4.00 a gallon would cost $48.00 to Fill-Up. I drive 1,200 Miles a Month. That's $100/month in gas money, $1,200 a year. The concern isn't just money, but economy. Eliminating the need to Produce (work), the need to stop and fill-up all the time, and the pollution involved will help save the Economy Tremendously.
@heartlessvietboy Electric cars, Electric-Hybrids, Gasoline/EUD-Hybrids, Hydrogen Fuel-Cell, and Ethanol powered vehicles are ALL a tremendous waste of time and resources. I personally have no problem if a car company wants to experiment with those technologies I've listed, but NONE of those technologies are of any "practical" value for the overall replacement of the 312,000,000 vehicles currently licensed for use in America. In the long run, ONLY liquid hydrogen has any practical applications.
How safe is Liquid Hydrogen? In my opinion running on Combusting Liquid Hydrogen and a Transmission would still require OiL to Lubricate those parts. OiL needs to be Farmed and Drilled thus causing much more pollution. Also, we're thinking thousands of years ahead. Who knows the problems we'll face in the future, however its safer to go Electricity.
@heartlessvietboy Liquid Hydrogen is absolutely safe and has been used for several decades in limited applications. Check on the public buses in Pasadena, CA, for example, where liquid hydrogen has been used since the mid 1980s (the technology to make liquid hydrogen stable is well known and has been for a long time). Without "oil" you can't build or operate an electric car, nor could you even post messages in this forum.
Recently the President asked the auto manufacturers to design cars to meet a new fuel economy standard, which is interesting considering every manufacturer already have vehicles that meet those new standards, it is just that the EPA and CARB have blocked the sale of those vehicles in the US. You can right now go to Europe, Asia, Africa, where ever and buy a Ford Focus (for example) that gets 65 mpg (it runs on EUD fuel), but Ford can't sell it here. Same goes for GM or Toyota etc..
I think Automobile Companies have the Knowledge to build an electric car. Would they invest money into something they aren't sure of? I really don't know the problem. There isn't a charging infrastructure yet, and the self-sustaining (self-charging) Electric Car is still in the research process. If there are other Fuel Sources that can Match the Efficiency of electric drive, Great. However we ask whether it's worth all the work.
@heartlessvietboy I don't think that's ever been the issue--knowing how to build an EV. The problem consists of those lovely lobbyists from BP, and the likes. They make a living, and literally own the world, by selling what they sell. The efficiency of an EV, combined with it's anti-gas purpose makes it the anti-christ of the oil industry. Hell, if the government was dead serious about reducing the US's green-house footprint, it could be done in a matter of years. But of course, lobbyists.
Who are Lobbyists? Name them. This country is so fake you wont believe it. Look at the Stock Exchange and Wall Street. Can you believe that crap? Automobile Corporations Today DO know how to Build electric cars. Otherwise you don't belong in the business. LOL.
@heartlessvietboy The country is run by lobbyists and fake principles. NYSE and Wall Street is full of greedy pigs. The Auto. Corp's do know how to build EV's, there's no doubt. But they just aren't built, or haven't been, because of said greedy pigs. Cars that get good mileage nowadays are laughable, because cars from decades ago got good mileage too! It seems like the only progression that has occurred is aesthetic, and that sort of stagnation can't be possible. We can send a man into space...
This System was established in 1800. Before then there was Slavery. Spain, France and Great Britain was here. None of them officially Owned American Soil until they could Establish Military Presence to Kick-Everybody Out. Every country was here Farming for Crops. After America won it's Independence there was a Civil War fought. The War was Fought between People, not States, who wanted to Keep Slavery and Those who wanted to Abolish it. That's my interpretation of things.
@heartlessvietboy I sure wish all of you people that post here would spend a couple of minutes studying history and would source out the actual facts of an issue, rather than just re-quote what someone else or what some politician claims. Your statement about the American Civil War, where you state; "...the war was fought between people, not states,...etc.."! Actually the American civil war started and was fought over the issue of "State Rights" after several states succeeded from the Union.
@scaremengaviation ALL of the car companies currently have or are developing "electric" cars (just so you know, the Chevrolet Volt is an "Electric-Hybrid" not "Electric"),, but electric cars are highly problematic. The pollution from them is highly suspect (both from upstream and downstream sources), but the real problem is that if you do have a precentage of the overall fleet switching to electric cars over the next couple of decades, we will need to increase electrical output by a factor of 3.
Stop the Fake. It's called common sense. Using reasoning based on rationality. You're supporting the foundation of old which is unsustainable. The System is built upon De-forestation instead of Tree Farming. It's Built upon Crude OiL. Do you know how much work will be involved by us continuing to Burn Fuels like Liquid Hydrogen?
@heartlessvietboy Currently, most available "liquid hydrogen" is from processed natural gas, but another excellent source is "water", the infrastructure problem is that unlike petroleum fuels, liquid hydrogen cannot be piped, so we will have to produce it on a local basis, rather than from de-centralized production sources. In about 3 to 4 decades this could be done. Electric cars will NEVER fulfil the result you would like to see, sorry, but that is just how it is, as even in your world 2+2=4.
@heartlessvietboy "Liquid Hydrogen is Natural Gas", NOT HARDLY my friend. Natural Gas are those HC molecules with 1-5 carbon atoms and it is formed in nature from crude oil. Liquid Hydrogen is made by seperating the H molecule from a natural source, like natural gas or water.
Is Liquid Hydrogen Methane Gas? Or does Methane Gas just simply contain Hydrogen Molecules than can be used to make Liquid Hydrogen. Is it the same question as asking is Aluminum Steel?
@heartlessvietboy If we don't get the current adminstration out of the White House and the irrelational enviornmental lobbyist out of Congress, we are in for a very bleak future. The unfortunate Deepwater Horizon explosion last year is a good example. RDS had the equipment ready to move within 24 hours, equipment that could have prevented 98% or more of the spilled oil from reaching shore, but our current president ignored the disaster for 9 days, then refused to revoke the "Jones Act".
I don't know how corrupt the current System is. Maybe it's about Governing the Land and Creating Law. There's too much Talk goin' on right now in my opinion.
@scaremengaviation You would do well to study the oil business for what it is. First of all, did you know that the world's 106 oil marketers (Exxon, Chevron, Total, BP, etc.) only control 5.9% of the world's current oil reserves! 94.1% of the world's oil reserves are controlled by foreign governments. Hasn't always been that way, but today it is. Do you know "who" is the largest stock holder of Big Oil in America? Its "school teachers" and their pension funds! Or did you not know that?
There are 312 Million Vehicles on the roads right now in America. There are Thousands of Electricity Plants that Burn or Use Unclean Energy Sources to run their Turbines. If we don't stop the Balogny Argument Now, the problem will never be resolved. It's simple and straight forward. ELECTRICITY.
@heartlessvietboy If electric cars are the answer, as you claim, then where are you going to get the energy to recharge the highly toxic batteries they contain? There is only one answer my friend, clean-coal over the next 20 years and then nuclear in the future. If somehow we converted all 312 million cars in this country to "electric", we would need to increase our national electrical output by no less than a factor of 6 or 7.
We're goin' to get the electricity from an on-board generator. And we can lessen the Battery Output by using a MegaWatt Transformer. I didn't say we are going to convert 312 Million Cars on the road to Electric. Is there a Worldwide Catastrophe right now?? Is Gasoline Totally Out? No. I said we need to start making positive changes right now.
@heartlessvietboy Where are you going to get the energy to operate the on-board generator? See something here, you and I agree 100% on the problem of our (the world) using petroleum as our base transportation fuel, we have to stop, do you agree?
We use Three Magnets designed in a way where they will react with one another. You pull a hand Lever inside your car. That hand Lever brings together The 3 Magnets. At the Center is The 3rd Magnet acting as the Field Conductor. Thanks to the Conductor (Center Magnet), The Two Outside Magnets will Start to Rotate. As they rotate they spin an Electric Generator which begins to create electricity. That Electricity goes to a Transformer coil where instantly it gets increased 10X's to 50,000W.
@heartlessvietboy Eastern Utah and Western Colorado holds 1.2T barrels of recoverable oil in the form of "shale". It wasn't until 10 years ago that RDS (Royal Dutch Shell) developed a enviornmentally safe method of extracting the oil, but it is costly (currently the BEP is $67 per barrel), which would translate to about $1.50 per gallon for refined gasoline (before taxes). Recovered CO2 from Coal fired electric plants is re-heated, then injected into the shale to refine it in place.
Shale. LOL. What does Shale do besides function as something for kids play on at the beach. We need to stop Fake ways of trying to save the earth and eliminate problematic things totally so they don't come back and bite us in the ass come 200 years Later. The Enlightenment Period has arrived.
@heartlessvietboy You can go to the DOE (Department Of Energy) US Government website and there you will see that there is 1.6T barrels of oil known in the world from "shale" and of that 1.6T total, 1.2T barrels are in the United States (Eastern Utah and Western Colorado). There's another 900+ billion barrels of oil in "Bakken" rock (Eastern Montana and Northwestern North Dakota). Also we have as much as 20+ billion barrels of oil in ANWR, Alaska. Then there's off-shore oil too.
@heartlessvietboy Everyone should be enviornmentally aware, I want clean air and clean water just like everyone, but the oil companies aren't the bad guys here. That wasn't necessarily true 30 or 40 years ago, but today, oil companies are among the most enviornmentally constructive groups around. Did you know that Exxon and Chevron are advancing in great strides at developing a method of producing "oil" artifically? Renewable energy and its "oil"!
Helping the environment is excellent. Coming up with new ways to fuel the planet is great. Something is better than nothing while we resolve this Environmental and Economical Problem by establishing an Electric infrastructure. But that's not the top concern. The priority now is to end the Killing and Violence that's going on in this World. There are people dying from diseases that needs our immediate help.
@heartlessvietboy If we were to promote the idea of "electric" or "electric-hybrids" (like the Volt), then we are going to have to start building as many nuclear powerplants as we can, because there is NO other choice for increasing our national power grid. Wind and Solar can NEVER EVER provide enough energy to provide even 10% of our national needs. Besides, it looks like wind generators are going to be banned in California anyway.
You would think Engineers who build Generators that create electricity have at least some kind of experience in building Electric Generators. And they do. However, it doesn't mean they have the ability to excel their study in ways beyond imaginable. Even when I say in quote, "Only experts in that Field will know, therefore we shouldn't speak much about it because we don't know enough of it", how would good new ideas be heard?? What if someone knows.
@heartlessvietboy About those wind generators seen up and down the California skyline, first of all they are a visual blight on the landscape, they provide little overall energy, their cost to build/operate is prohibitive, they're also quite unreliable as well. Now it turns out they have another problem that there is NO cure for, they're extremely harmful to birds. The Audubon Society has reported that they killed 4,700 birds in 2010, including 70 California Golden Eagles (of only 2,500 known).
Birds probably don't see those fans. They were used to flying free in the skies. Airplanes once killed many birds. Death rates have dramatically reduced. Birds, in my opinion, will gradually become more aware of the Wind Turbines.
@heartlessvietboy You're really naive about the world aren't you! YOU CAN'T GROW OR PROCESS ENOUGH FOOD TO FEED THE WORLD WITHOUT OIL! Oil is needed for the fertilizer, the equipment to pick it or process the feed for animals, to transport the food products, the packaging, and for you to cook and prepare it at home. You can't even water plants without oil. Your compuer is made from oil. If you have a cell phone, its made from "oil" and so is the equipment it transmits on. Oil is in everything.
I feed my family with the crops I grow in my back yard (Corn, Lettuce, Tomatoes). The chickens I raise provide food for me. The water I get is from the rain which I collect and store in an enclosed tank. Most of it is used for planting. Sometimes I go to the Fresh Water Lake to get Free Water.
@heartlessvietboy The death rate of birds from airplanes and from those idiotic wind generators has INCREASED dramatically over the years, not gone down my friend. At the rate the death rate is going up, its estimated the California Golden Eagle will be near extinction within 10 years or less (according to the Audubon Society, not me). Besides, you know how much oil it requires to build just one of those wind generators?
I think wind turbines are made mostly of metal. Could require some special plastic which is made from Alcohol. Alcohol is derived from Burning of Crude Oil.
@heartlessvietboy Wind turbines are primarily made of materials that contain metals and plastics that all involving oil at varying levels of oil. Plastics are made entirely of "oil", rather that be paint to the insulation of the wiring and on. Very nice you proved you could grow some food for yourself, just try and do that for 6.5 billion people without oil. Can't be done my friend. Also, YOU CANNOT produce electricity without having a source of ENERGY to produce it, its always a trade-off.
Not all plastics are made from OiL. And its not Oil That it's made from. It's made from Alcohol that came from OiL. However, Corn isn't turned into OiL to make Ethanol Plastics. It's burnt into Alcohol and Heated up to solid form with additions of Silica. A metal cannot contain a metal. Neither do plastics contain a Plastic unless you are using a larger one to contain a smaller one inside of it.
@heartlessvietboy Do you realize that "oil" is ORGANIC? Oil comes from seaborne alge that settled to the sea-bed during times of intense global warming, 65 to 175 million years ago. Nature has its own way of balancing itself and during those times of high average temperatures, the atmosphere was also high in CO2, so the alge formed in the static oceans, scrubbing the CO2 from the atmosphere, then settled to the seabed which then degraded eventually into oil, tar sands, coal, shale, or diamonds.
@heartlessvietboy You've got the right idea about we need to get away from gasoline, but the decisions about what to convert to, starting now, has to be right and it has to be made with "common sense". We can switch to EUD fuel immediately, because ALL of the vehicle manufacturers have EUD vehicles, that's technology that has been well thought out and in Europe they have replaced 50% of the licensed vehicles powered by gasoline with EUD powered cars, in Europe, in 15 years.
@heartlessvietboy There are some basic facts about oil that the general public is unaware of. First of all, 72% of the world's "known" oil reserves are in the United States (yes; the United States has more than twice as much as oil as the rest of the world combined), when both conventional and non-conventional sources are totaled. If we can acheive 90% fleet replacement from gasoline to an alternate source, in the next 40 years, we have about 600-650 years of oil reserves right here at home.
From my research, we have about 2 Trillion Barrels of OiL left underground. That's good enough for 40 years of Gasoline for the world to use. I don't know how much OiL reserves we have, but we need to stop because OiL is Earth's Blood.
@heartlessvietboy Between 1859 and current, the entire world has used up 1.1 Trillion barrels of oil, its estimated that the world has roughly 1.5 Trillion barrels left (based on known reserves outside the USA). The USA alone has at least 2.1 Trillion barrels all by ourselves of recoverable oil (both conventional and unconventional). Based on July 2008 world useage numbers of 85M BPD, leaving about 105-115 years of oil left if we do nothing about replacing gasoline with a practical replacement.
@heartlessvietboy You're a bit naive on chemistry, but water contains a hydrogen "atom", hench "H2O". Methane is something altogether different. Natural Gas is a bi-product of petroleum, which has naturally been refined in the ground at lower pressure and higher temperatures. The USA has 651 Trillion cubic feet of natural occuring Natural Gas. Natural Gas is a molecule chain that appears as "HC+HC+HC+HC". Methane is another natural occuring gas, which has a predictable formula of "CH4".
@heartlessvietboy "If there's 100 years of oil left, why are we charging $4.00 a gallon??" Good question, but the answer is even simpler. Irrational/fanatical environmentalists are causing the problem. In March of 2007, the world demand for oil hit 85.1M BPD and the maximum world oil production level is 85.1M BPD, so the oil producing countries ran the price of oil up to $149 per barrel in July of 2008. The USA has all the oil, but irrational environmentalists won't let us drill here at home.
We don't need OiL. All we need is Food, Water and Shelter. All this building and development stuff does nothing but cause societal and environmental problems. 1,200 years ago during the Enlightenment Period Chemists and Physicists came to be. Kings and Queens were done with giving way to Modern Government and Military. A new form of thinking and rule. They began Exploring and Colonizing Land, spreading Government Ideologies and Political Beliefs. Poor Countries weren't advanced in Technology.
@heartlessvietboy "We don't need Oil. All we need is Food, Water, and Shelter." Explain to me then just how are you going to feed and shelter 6.5 billion people without oil? Can't be done. If we cut off our oil supplies, you will kill people, first hundreds, then thousands, and finally millions. No oil, then there can never be enough food to feed the world! You don't have any idea just how inter-woven into our society and our very survival oil is, do you?
@heartlessvietboy You are kinda of a ridiculous person lol. Fossil fuels make the modern world go round. The whole world is not going to just stop using it. Even if they did, they would invite attack and ruin. You may want to pick up a history book.
@heartlessvietboy What everyone doesn't realize, is that "oil" is vital to human survival and today, the 4 necessary things to our surviving as a species is (in order of importance):
1. Air
2. Water
3. Oil
4. Food
Oil becomes before food, because we can't produce the food necessary to feed a world with 6.5 Billion people without oil. No oil, no food. Oil is everything and without oil we loose: transportation, communication, food, shelter, clothing, everything goes without it.
@heartlessvietboy You have what is called a "pedestrian" view of technology and I say that with all due respect, but I'm an engineer that has worked in the transportation energy and automotive industry for over 40 years and I have been a big proponent of getting our transportaton vehicles off of gasoline for nearly 4 decades, we have no choice, our future depends on it.
What would happen if I can build for you the self-sustaining (self-charging) electric car? Would you think people would listen and go electric or would they still want the Hydrogen Car?
@heartlessvietboy "What would happen if I can build for you the self-sustaining (self-charging) electric car?" Well, you're too late, that technology has been theorized for decades and though you can't acheive 100% self-sustainment, you can get to about 85% efficiency, but the costs to the enviornment and our oil sources are counter-productive.
@heartlessvietboy "What do you mean by 85% efficiency?" Well, the method of using a generator to power an electric motor to drive an automobile is a constant loss endeavor. The generator is at a constant 15% over-demand against the motor, so you have no reserve energy to drive the vehicle, as the generator requires a consistant 15% greater demand than the motor can provide. You're trying to invent " Perpetual Motion" which is a bit like trying to make "gold" from "lead"! Can't be done.
If it's 15% "Over"-Demand, how can it be Under-Demand? For example, you have a Generator that works to produce a magnetic field. That Magnetic Field, when comes in contact with metals, can create electricity. I'm not an expert in the study of Generating Electricity, but so far to my knowledge getting enough electricity to operate a Large Machine would require that Generator to run for a while before reaching the Magnetic Field required. In this case the required amount to run an Electric car.
@heartlessvietboy As for electricity, your idea about a generator hooked to a transformer to an electric motor sounds good, but its false technology. The generator demands more energy than the motor can provide, so there is no energy left over to drive the vehicle. The only answer to the dilemma is what you see above, but it requires fuel (in the case of the Volt, its gasoline). You still haven't answer the question where you're going to get the electricity to re-charge these electric cars?
Using Magnets to spin a turbine doesn't require energy. The only energy (electricity) involved is the electricity to make the Magnets. That electricity comes from flowing water.
@heartlessvietboy We engineers have a pretty good handle on how electricity works my friend, sorry, there's no magic bullet here. We're out of sources for building dams to use the kinetic energy of flowing water to drive generators to produce electricity. Solar and wind are too problematic, they're too costly, they're both massively inefficient, and way too unreliable, they can never be more than a supplement. For the future of our country and the world for that matter, NUCLEAR is it for now.
If I've proven to you that its possible to create electricity without needing an energy source, what's there to argue about? Nuclear was a great source because Uranium -238 can Light for 18 Months without Dying, however it's safety is in Question.
@heartlessvietboy Even if electric cars (or electric hybrids like the Volt) become the rage, they won't, but let just give them the benefit of the doubt anyway and say that 1 million of them get sold by 2015, like that idiot Obama would like. That's still only 0.3% of the number of licensed vehicles in America, not much to right home about.
@heartlessvietboy By the way, you don't know much about the oil business do you. Exxon/mobil was not subsidized for Sakhalon or any other of their investments into their projects. Same goes for Chevron/Devlon at Jack2 or Tahiti Syndrome, either of which cost $10B each. Because of US Governmental stupidity influenced by enviornmental wackos, the oil companies are forced to go to extraordinary lengths to get oil. Ultimately costing you an me for the price of gasoline.
To prevent from paying Investors, Corporations Claim Bogus Operation Costs. They pay Politicians under the table to Lessen their Income Revenue. They make Donations to Charity to prevent from paying Taxes. They increase production costs by wasting resources.
@heartlessvietboy I've got a good question for you, do you know who developed and patented the advanced design battery system in the Chevrolet Volt, in the above video????
Exxon/Mobil did, that's who!
My favorite thing is how the news media is lying to the public, claiming the Oil Companies are making huge amounts of money, but they're lying to you. In 1st quarter 2009, it was reported Exxon earned $11.8B, but they forgot to mention one oil rig (Sakhalon 1) cost Exxon $12.9B, just one rig!
That's not $12.9B. That's a promissory note from Government to Corporation. And Exxon Mobile didn't Develop the Lithium Battery for the Volt, it Funded Engineers to do so and claiming it as The Exxon Voltec Drive System. It has the money to do so. Nobody else can because Banks won't loan them the amount needed to open a Corporation WorldWide.
A Three Magnet Magnetic Motor Generator will not demand more energy. It functions alone and by itself by using the Magnetic Field of 3Magnets Aligned at the proper angles which causes spinning then creating an electrical field.
@heartlessvietboy You know, you're letting your ignorance show a bit much by saying "..A Three Magnet Magnetic Motor Generator will not demand more energy. It functions alone and by itself by using the Magnetic Field of 3Magnets Aligned at the proper angles which causes spinning then creating an electrical field."
Your idea works, engineers figured that out over a 100 years ago, but you forgot about something, it uses100% of its own energy to keep spinning, its useless to operate anything.
@heartlessvietboy Prt 1: Your heart's in the right place, but you (like millions of misguided individuals) need to understand the nature and level of the problem. We must replace gasoline (which absolutely must be done) with something that is enviornmentally clean, practical in its application, and a fuel that is available in huge volumes. That's a pretty tough nut to crack, but we already know how that can be done. Oil is vital to the future of society, so we need to stop wasting it as fuel.
@heartlessvietboy "Crude Oil is not Vital for the future of society. Food, Water and Air vital for the future of society." Okay heartlesvietboy, you don't have a clue do you. OIL IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL TO OUR SURVIVAL, WITHOUT OIL, THERE IS NO, let me repeat, THERE IS NO FOOD!!!!!!!!!!! You cannot grow or produce food for 6.5B people without it, that's why we absolutely have to stop using as fuel. Without oil, there is no food, no communication, no medicines, no elecrical wind or solar energy.
By the way, what is the process it takes to create Lightning Bolts? Don't they contain large amounts of Electrical Current that we can use to run our Electric Motors?
Problem 3: LH cannot be piped, except for short distances!
Solution to 3: De-centralized the manufacturer of LH
Problem 4: LH powered vehicles are not generally available and we have 312M vehicles to replace!
Solution to 4: Current gasoline powered vehicles can easily be converted over to run on LH (cost is minimal for the conversion), but a "flex-fuel" capability between gas to LH is not possible, its either one or the other.
If I'm still hearing that the Atmosphere is covered in 75% Hydrogen, yet at the same time its 75% Nitrogen, that's the reason why I question. If i'm still hearing that the Atmosphere is 75% Oxygen but 75% Neon, that's the reason why I question. Add up Einsteins equations and you'll see it's full of error. This matter, antimatter stuff is balogny.
Problem 5: This has, for the most part, been overcome by use of pyrite absorption metals used as pressure vessel filler (cyrogenic hydrogen, cyrogenic hydrogen peroxide, or mono-lithic hydrozene).
Advantage 1: Liquid hydrogen has 2.76 times the BTU rating of gasoline (2.76 times the energy per pound as gasoline). If your car gets 20 mpg on gasoline, you'll get 55.2 mpg on LH.
I wouldn't drink that water just yet but to produce substantial amounts of them and test them in man-made Lakes with Fishes. Testing a cup doesn't say it's good water. Sometimes testing lies in large amounts together (in this case by volume of water) to see it's real impact on health and environment. It may become Lake Hydrogen sitting out in the open air for 6 months.
@heartlessvietboy I think its important you understand that electric cars are not "doomed", they're just not the answer to our general problem of gasoline use. There will always be room for "electric" cars and there already is a very successful electric car manufacturer, based in Salt Lake City, that manufacturers commercial (small pickups and passenger) electric vehicles for use as inter-city service vehicles and taxis. Plus there are those individuals that have short commutes to work.
Do you know if it's possible to take little amounts of electricity from a Battery and creating more? And when we can create enough we can use that to run our Electric Motors thus lessening the Battery Usage. Running Electron Current (From Battery) to Capacitors (engineering design) that can multiply electricity 3X's will lessen Battery Usage Tremendously.
@heartlessvietboy CORRECTION: In the below post I stated "....Liquid Hydrogen is made by seperating the H molecule from a natural source,.." and it should have been "...Liquid Hydrogen is made by seperating the H "atom" from a natural source,.."! "atom" not "molecule".
The volt or Nissan Leaf or other "electric" or "electric-hybrids" are interesting projects and those that purchase them can have that "feel-good" attitude about driving them, but they are not the answer to replacing the gasoline powered US fleet. Currently there is "ONLY" one answer to the problem of gasoline and its liquid hydrogen. Why you ask? There are 312,000,000 registered vehicles in the US running on gasoline, so we have to find something available in volume to replace gasoline.
@kiiro The fuel mileage when the eng-gen is running is highly varible, depending upon rather you're running gasoline or E85 ethanol. Gasoline with 3% or higher ethanol content is highly problematic. Ethanol only has 47% the energy per pound as gasoline. You factor in the basic fact that it requires 1.2 to 1.5 gallons of crude oil to produce 1 gallon of E85, running E85 increases our dependence on foreign oil by 27% over gasoline.
@MrEnergyCzar Vehicles like the Chevrolet Volt (electric-hybrid) and Nissan Leaf (electric) are all interesting exercises in technology development, but they are in the long run irrelevant to the overall problem of our use of gasoline as a transportation fuel. Initially in America, we have a political problem to get past first, as the political party that is creating the most roadblocks to transportation energy conversion and energy independency generally are Democrats.
Id sure like to know the Mpg's on this thing when the gas gen is running. Cuz thats prob whats going to be happening in real world use. I cant even make it to work and back on batt power only.
Automobile Companies should install Factory Decks for their customers. Factory Stereo CD Changer System Damage often and is something that would satisfy customer needs. After Market Stereo Changers look sloppy or doesn't fit well in the center console.
@tnguyen318 this is the dumbest comment i've ever read. if gm put a deck in the car it would not be after market, not only that but cd's are a thing of the past.
Wow you are smart. I said GM should make available Factory Stereo Decks for their Customers. Car Companies don't do it. When your stereo fails you have to buy one at Best Buy which looks funny on your center console.
@Comrade005 Ah, I though you were older. Infinite power is impossible thanks the first law of thermodynamics. No matter what you do energy will always be wasted and as such, you will eventually run out.
For infinite power you need no noise, heat or anything else given off as it is all wasted energy.
You can't get more energy out of something then you put in, so while an alternator hooked up would give you a tiny bit more time, it would increase load on the system and overall be a major waste.
@yesssigotmail Ya gm is like any other car company, they bring out technology in doses, i am sure they have cars that are amazing on fuel, and continue to suppress technology as do the other companies
No, not the "Chevrolet WATT", the "Chevrolet VOLT"
Oh. So, what is a "Volt"?
No, a "WATT" is NOT a "volt". A "volt" is the SI unit of power, equivalent to one joule per second and equal to the power in a circuit in which a current of one ampere flows across a potential difference of one volt. A "watt" is a unit of electrical force."
I love my new Volt. 5000 miles so far and I average only using 5 gallons of gasoline a month. As for the comments about it not selling the launch has been intentionally slow to make sure everything is perfect… And I can assure you this car is perfect. The waiting list is long and it's well worth the wait. Once you've driven a volt you will never want to drive anything else again. And the best part, it's made in Detroit
I test drove a Chevy Volt for the first time today. It was just what I had thought it would be. My unbias critique of the Chevy Volt is that its the best Hybrid Battery Vehicle out there in the Market. You can go 40 miles on battery before the gasoline engine kicks in to keep you going for another 350 miles. Great Work GM.
The Chevy Volt will only get more mileage on Electricity as Battery Technology improves. All I need is 30 more miles on Pure Electric Mode and it will fulfill my personal driving needs. I commute 60 miles a day. The Volt currently offer 40 miles.
@heartlessvietboy rumor has it by 2013 Gm will give the volt up 100 miles on EV and be cheaper and better mpg in extended range maybe a rotatory or diesel engine.
That would be awesome!! 100 Miles of Pure Electric Drive is enough to Satisfy 90% of American's Daily Driving Needs. Rotary and Diesel (Clean Sulphur Technology) would be cool!!
People want to buy Hybrid Electric Cars to save money. I don't think that should just be the reason why. Hybrid Electrics are also good for the environment. The more we clean up the Planet, the better it is for the Health of our Children.
y'all can hate on the volt, but it is the only name brand "electric car"(i'm more than well aware it a hybrid) in the market right now. The leaf is shit, it takes 16 hours to charge with the standard outlet which is what most people have. Regardless of what the company is trying to get, if it lowers dependancy on foreign oil, then great. Also, you shouldn't hate on this car, we all know you probably just can't afford it anyway, so you complain.
Tell me why Toyota can introduce a hybrid like the Prius and have great success...and yet, GM comes out with the Volt ..and no one wants to buy it?? LOL From what I remember, the old EV1 probably had better range than this piece of crap....LOL, It's hard to believe that the battery range wouldn't have changed over the last 10 years. GM just plain sucks......
This is such a crappy review...LOL. I would buy a Prius any day...before buying this pile of crap. The range on electric is absolutely terrible for this vehicle.... Another piece of crap car from GM...LOL I bet GM will go down the tube again...when the next recession comes along....and this company will eventually get trashed...and sold off. They are so resistant to REAL change....almost like the catholic church...LOL. The Americans will get tired of a company on welfare support...
"Each Chevy Volt (has) $250,000 in state and federal dollars in incentives - $3 billion altogether...total state and federal assistance offered for the development and production of the Chevy Volt...18 government deals that included loans, rebates, grants and tax credits...GM is currently 26% owned by the federal government...According to GM CEO Dan Akerson, the average Volt owner makes $170,000 per year."
---James Hohman, assistant director of fiscal policy, Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
SchlossOtranto 1 month ago
@SchlossOtranto the government needs to get out of the auto industry. The Volt is one of the biggest disasters out there, yet they keep pushing that pile of crap.
hopeurforfreedom 1 month ago
I farted
tomificationable 1 month ago
amazing technology
mallemabhishek30 2 months ago
What happen if they applied some of this tech to the corvette or camaro
keith8880 2 months ago
I drove 1,300 miles the first month using 1 gallon with my Volt....
MrEnergyCzar 2 months ago 13
@MrEnergyCzar you drove 1,300 miles the first month using 1 gallon with your Volt. How about the amount of extra CO2 and other gases did you make power plants produce when recharging knowing that America's power plants are mostly oil, gas and coal fired ?
Not to mention those batteries are lithium ion and lithium is very rare, mostly found in China, they'll just pollute more to extract and meet your demand of batteries. You're just moving your problem in the neighbor's garden.
gogole4 2 months ago 6
@gogole4 My goal was to use less oil as an end user with no range anxiety and only one car. Even though I make my own electricity from the sun the solar panels still takes energy to make etc...
MrEnergyCzar 1 month ago
@gogole4 well put. The lithium currently available is in parts of the world not very friendly to Americans.
hopeurforfreedom 1 month ago
@MrEnergyCzar To add to gogole4's comments, you have an additional problem with Electric&Hybryds, what do you do about "battery" disposal? Another enviornmental nightmare coming to you from your government. The ONLY longterm answer to replacing gasoline is liquid hydrogen (NOT hydrogen fuel cell either). Recip engines can run on it and there's lots of seawater to make it from. Are their problems with LH, yes of course, but over the next 30 years we can overcome those technical problems.
BearFlight 1 month ago
the UK version, the Vauxhall Ampera looks a lot better.
Zlin0035 3 months ago
@Zlin0035
Nobody buys electric or hybrid cars to look cool. Frankly, I could care less how it looks. It could look like a brick as long as I get the best gas mileage possible.
HDaviator 3 months ago
it goes up to 35 miles on a charge? That's a savings of maybe 1 gallon (or $3.50) of gasoline, and it takes 10 hours of charging to get that 35 miles? WOW...this is the savior of our planet! And to all the tree huggers that say "every gallon counts"....How much extra energy is required to build the battery, etc. for this car? Not to mention the environmental costs of disposing of it when the time comes!
Gasoline cars are hundreds of times cleaner and more efficient than they were 30 years ago
sandmanmac 3 months ago
@sandmanmac If your car goes 35 miles in one gallon thats impressive. I see where you are going, but you are WAY over the top. It does save over time, in the 5 years it takes to pay off the car i bet some people can save up to $10,000 on gas. Im not saying I'm going to buy one, but when gas prices are $7 in the next couple years, you and me are going to be sorry.
Gasoline cars are not 100x cleaner than they were, its still gasoline!!
ShortFreakyDude 3 months ago
@sandmanmac P.S. Im not a tree hugger, i dont like those extremist either. Im just a business man who knows a value of a dollar.
ShortFreakyDude 3 months ago
@sandmanmac the main idea with this car isnt to save money on gas... its to save the environment.
chalms88 3 months ago
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@chalms88 Somebody explain to me how lithium mining and burning coal is Eco-Friendly.
flamingspew 3 months ago
@chalms88 no one wants that car, it is a commercial disaster and only an idiot would buy one. Check out lithium mining and tell me you are saving the environment....
hopeurforfreedom 1 month ago
@hopeurforfreedom the lithium is not the problem, the problem is the oil.
cheerleader200fly 1 month ago
@cheerleader200fly What is the problem with the oil? Until they perfect a better battery and better cars that can actually pull a trailer or a boat, you might as well consider these cars as suped-up golf carts. Tell me, can you get by without oil?
hopeurforfreedom 1 month ago
@cheerleader200fly are you familiar with lithium mining? Tell me how you can even survive without oil? Everything you use, from clothing to food requires the use of petroleum. Even the volt requires it.
hopeurforfreedom 1 month ago
@hopeurforfreedom The oil is a good find and we thank the nature, but we have problem, the oil supplies are running out fast. So, the energy that we need now is in the Photovoltaic Energy, Wave Energy, Nuclear Energy, Wind Energy and Fusion Energy, all of this are inexhaustible natural resources and friendly with the environment.
cheerleader200fly 1 month ago
@cheerleader200fly Oil is not running out anytime soon. Nuclear won't get past the leftists, though I agree we need more nuclear. The other energies you named can only compliment oil and natural gas, as natural gas is the fuel that is of this century.
hopeurforfreedom 1 month ago
Ive been hearing my entire life, we are running out of fossil fuel...thats about 48 years of understanding the concept....it aint happened yet. In fact, we keep findng new reserves and on and on and on and on. Typical human hysteria. Our credibility is shot as far as "sounding the alarm". The result, less and less will take heed. The boy that cried wolf.
kiiiro 4 months ago
@kiiiro
Either way, gas causes more pollution.
FrostbitexP 4 months ago
The volt is in Revenge of the Fallen as the alt mode of autobot jolt
spartan117ism 4 months ago
Fossil fuels will run out. Natural seed / plant oils will be able to replace it for a while, but the price will be HUGE as its very inefficient to make. Hydrogen is the way to go - for now.
bbrtki 4 months ago
Average driver in the U.S. drives 12,500 miles per year. Average price of gasoline is $3.64 a gallon. $40,000 electric car? It would take the average person 10+ years to even see gains, hence this car is worthless. Get back to the drawing board GM because sticking laptop batteries in a car is not working.
Warpath2198 4 months ago
In 20 years you will still be driving a car powered by gas.
SenorStrange 4 months ago
@SenorStrange Much longer than that. I don't think these kids have sat down and number crunched the cost. Not to mention how many of them are ignorant when it comes to macro/micro economics and just life in general.
Warpath2198 4 months ago
Who has money to buy a ev, also has to solar panel.
Leaf is 99% recyclable, Batteries will be bought by Nissan after 10 years.
Next year will have autonomy of 200 miles.
Investment in solar panel is expensive but lasts forever.
People who think the short term are small minded people!!!
projetoaerogerador 5 months ago
@projetoaerogerador $40,000 electric cars mean it s a failure. Come talk to people when its $17,000, then we might take you seriously.
Warpath2198 4 months ago
No more several hundred more miles. This car is okay, but not the best electric could be.
MrMrPokey 5 months ago
the 2011-present Chevrolet Volt is assembled in
Detroit, Michigan, United States
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Shadowartsinc 5 months ago
No Experience of Reality and Truth can hang with mine.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
Costco is reversing course and pulling its chargers out of the ground, explaining that customers do not use them.There are literally millions no, thousands no, hundreds no, dozens of those entering the market on a monthly basis. Won’t be long and car companies will be paying people to drive these things so they can comply with the mileage standards imposed by biggov.
dkkght46 5 months ago
Not many people in America are Converting their cars to electric. One reason is because they don't know how. The second is because they don't have the money or think it would be too expensive. We gotta tell people it's not that difficult to build an EV. Buy an old Truck for $2,500. Buy a Magnetic Motor and Generator. Get your Transformer and Ultra-Capacitor. Then search for a Lithium-ion Battery pack Large enough to keep the charge goin'. You got yourself 350 Miles of Electric Drive.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy Americans don't want to drive an old truck. And they don't want to be part of the Prius stigma, either. It's stupid, but true. Americant's!
scaremengaviation 5 months ago
Who are those Americans? A consistent 50 MPG car does good. A 12 Gallon Gas Tank at $4.00 a gallon would cost $48.00 to Fill-Up. I drive 1,200 Miles a Month. That's $100/month in gas money, $1,200 a year. The concern isn't just money, but economy. Eliminating the need to Produce (work), the need to stop and fill-up all the time, and the pollution involved will help save the Economy Tremendously.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy Electric cars, Electric-Hybrids, Gasoline/EUD-Hybrids, Hydrogen Fuel-Cell, and Ethanol powered vehicles are ALL a tremendous waste of time and resources. I personally have no problem if a car company wants to experiment with those technologies I've listed, but NONE of those technologies are of any "practical" value for the overall replacement of the 312,000,000 vehicles currently licensed for use in America. In the long run, ONLY liquid hydrogen has any practical applications.
BearFlight 5 months ago
How safe is Liquid Hydrogen? In my opinion running on Combusting Liquid Hydrogen and a Transmission would still require OiL to Lubricate those parts. OiL needs to be Farmed and Drilled thus causing much more pollution. Also, we're thinking thousands of years ahead. Who knows the problems we'll face in the future, however its safer to go Electricity.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy Liquid Hydrogen is absolutely safe and has been used for several decades in limited applications. Check on the public buses in Pasadena, CA, for example, where liquid hydrogen has been used since the mid 1980s (the technology to make liquid hydrogen stable is well known and has been for a long time). Without "oil" you can't build or operate an electric car, nor could you even post messages in this forum.
BearFlight 5 months ago
Recently the President asked the auto manufacturers to design cars to meet a new fuel economy standard, which is interesting considering every manufacturer already have vehicles that meet those new standards, it is just that the EPA and CARB have blocked the sale of those vehicles in the US. You can right now go to Europe, Asia, Africa, where ever and buy a Ford Focus (for example) that gets 65 mpg (it runs on EUD fuel), but Ford can't sell it here. Same goes for GM or Toyota etc..
BearFlight 5 months ago
I think Automobile Companies have the Knowledge to build an electric car. Would they invest money into something they aren't sure of? I really don't know the problem. There isn't a charging infrastructure yet, and the self-sustaining (self-charging) Electric Car is still in the research process. If there are other Fuel Sources that can Match the Efficiency of electric drive, Great. However we ask whether it's worth all the work.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy I don't think that's ever been the issue--knowing how to build an EV. The problem consists of those lovely lobbyists from BP, and the likes. They make a living, and literally own the world, by selling what they sell. The efficiency of an EV, combined with it's anti-gas purpose makes it the anti-christ of the oil industry. Hell, if the government was dead serious about reducing the US's green-house footprint, it could be done in a matter of years. But of course, lobbyists.
scaremengaviation 5 months ago
Who are Lobbyists? Name them. This country is so fake you wont believe it. Look at the Stock Exchange and Wall Street. Can you believe that crap? Automobile Corporations Today DO know how to Build electric cars. Otherwise you don't belong in the business. LOL.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy The country is run by lobbyists and fake principles. NYSE and Wall Street is full of greedy pigs. The Auto. Corp's do know how to build EV's, there's no doubt. But they just aren't built, or haven't been, because of said greedy pigs. Cars that get good mileage nowadays are laughable, because cars from decades ago got good mileage too! It seems like the only progression that has occurred is aesthetic, and that sort of stagnation can't be possible. We can send a man into space...
scaremengaviation 5 months ago
This System was established in 1800. Before then there was Slavery. Spain, France and Great Britain was here. None of them officially Owned American Soil until they could Establish Military Presence to Kick-Everybody Out. Every country was here Farming for Crops. After America won it's Independence there was a Civil War fought. The War was Fought between People, not States, who wanted to Keep Slavery and Those who wanted to Abolish it. That's my interpretation of things.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy You've lost me.
scaremengaviation 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy I sure wish all of you people that post here would spend a couple of minutes studying history and would source out the actual facts of an issue, rather than just re-quote what someone else or what some politician claims. Your statement about the American Civil War, where you state; "...the war was fought between people, not states,...etc.."! Actually the American civil war started and was fought over the issue of "State Rights" after several states succeeded from the Union.
BearFlight 5 months ago
How could a State succeed from a Union? I didn't think it have Legs to do so.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy Eleven southern states succeeded from the United States in 1861 and formed the Confederate States of America, that's how!
BearFlight 5 months ago
Again, how can states succeed? I didn't think they have a brain.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@scaremengaviation ALL of the car companies currently have or are developing "electric" cars (just so you know, the Chevrolet Volt is an "Electric-Hybrid" not "Electric"),, but electric cars are highly problematic. The pollution from them is highly suspect (both from upstream and downstream sources), but the real problem is that if you do have a precentage of the overall fleet switching to electric cars over the next couple of decades, we will need to increase electrical output by a factor of 3.
BearFlight 5 months ago
Stop the Fake. It's called common sense. Using reasoning based on rationality. You're supporting the foundation of old which is unsustainable. The System is built upon De-forestation instead of Tree Farming. It's Built upon Crude OiL. Do you know how much work will be involved by us continuing to Burn Fuels like Liquid Hydrogen?
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy Currently, most available "liquid hydrogen" is from processed natural gas, but another excellent source is "water", the infrastructure problem is that unlike petroleum fuels, liquid hydrogen cannot be piped, so we will have to produce it on a local basis, rather than from de-centralized production sources. In about 3 to 4 decades this could be done. Electric cars will NEVER fulfil the result you would like to see, sorry, but that is just how it is, as even in your world 2+2=4.
BearFlight 5 months ago
LOL. Liquid Hydrogen is natural gas.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy "Liquid Hydrogen is Natural Gas", NOT HARDLY my friend. Natural Gas are those HC molecules with 1-5 carbon atoms and it is formed in nature from crude oil. Liquid Hydrogen is made by seperating the H molecule from a natural source, like natural gas or water.
BearFlight 5 months ago
Is Liquid Hydrogen Methane Gas? Or does Methane Gas just simply contain Hydrogen Molecules than can be used to make Liquid Hydrogen. Is it the same question as asking is Aluminum Steel?
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy If we don't get the current adminstration out of the White House and the irrelational enviornmental lobbyist out of Congress, we are in for a very bleak future. The unfortunate Deepwater Horizon explosion last year is a good example. RDS had the equipment ready to move within 24 hours, equipment that could have prevented 98% or more of the spilled oil from reaching shore, but our current president ignored the disaster for 9 days, then refused to revoke the "Jones Act".
BearFlight 5 months ago
I don't know how corrupt the current System is. Maybe it's about Governing the Land and Creating Law. There's too much Talk goin' on right now in my opinion.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@scaremengaviation You would do well to study the oil business for what it is. First of all, did you know that the world's 106 oil marketers (Exxon, Chevron, Total, BP, etc.) only control 5.9% of the world's current oil reserves! 94.1% of the world's oil reserves are controlled by foreign governments. Hasn't always been that way, but today it is. Do you know "who" is the largest stock holder of Big Oil in America? Its "school teachers" and their pension funds! Or did you not know that?
BearFlight 5 months ago
There are 312 Million Vehicles on the roads right now in America. There are Thousands of Electricity Plants that Burn or Use Unclean Energy Sources to run their Turbines. If we don't stop the Balogny Argument Now, the problem will never be resolved. It's simple and straight forward. ELECTRICITY.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy If electric cars are the answer, as you claim, then where are you going to get the energy to recharge the highly toxic batteries they contain? There is only one answer my friend, clean-coal over the next 20 years and then nuclear in the future. If somehow we converted all 312 million cars in this country to "electric", we would need to increase our national electrical output by no less than a factor of 6 or 7.
BearFlight 5 months ago
We're goin' to get the electricity from an on-board generator. And we can lessen the Battery Output by using a MegaWatt Transformer. I didn't say we are going to convert 312 Million Cars on the road to Electric. Is there a Worldwide Catastrophe right now?? Is Gasoline Totally Out? No. I said we need to start making positive changes right now.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy Where are you going to get the energy to operate the on-board generator? See something here, you and I agree 100% on the problem of our (the world) using petroleum as our base transportation fuel, we have to stop, do you agree?
BearFlight 5 months ago
We use Three Magnets designed in a way where they will react with one another. You pull a hand Lever inside your car. That hand Lever brings together The 3 Magnets. At the Center is The 3rd Magnet acting as the Field Conductor. Thanks to the Conductor (Center Magnet), The Two Outside Magnets will Start to Rotate. As they rotate they spin an Electric Generator which begins to create electricity. That Electricity goes to a Transformer coil where instantly it gets increased 10X's to 50,000W.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy Eastern Utah and Western Colorado holds 1.2T barrels of recoverable oil in the form of "shale". It wasn't until 10 years ago that RDS (Royal Dutch Shell) developed a enviornmentally safe method of extracting the oil, but it is costly (currently the BEP is $67 per barrel), which would translate to about $1.50 per gallon for refined gasoline (before taxes). Recovered CO2 from Coal fired electric plants is re-heated, then injected into the shale to refine it in place.
BearFlight 5 months ago
Shale. LOL. What does Shale do besides function as something for kids play on at the beach. We need to stop Fake ways of trying to save the earth and eliminate problematic things totally so they don't come back and bite us in the ass come 200 years Later. The Enlightenment Period has arrived.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy You can go to the DOE (Department Of Energy) US Government website and there you will see that there is 1.6T barrels of oil known in the world from "shale" and of that 1.6T total, 1.2T barrels are in the United States (Eastern Utah and Western Colorado). There's another 900+ billion barrels of oil in "Bakken" rock (Eastern Montana and Northwestern North Dakota). Also we have as much as 20+ billion barrels of oil in ANWR, Alaska. Then there's off-shore oil too.
BearFlight 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy Everyone should be enviornmentally aware, I want clean air and clean water just like everyone, but the oil companies aren't the bad guys here. That wasn't necessarily true 30 or 40 years ago, but today, oil companies are among the most enviornmentally constructive groups around. Did you know that Exxon and Chevron are advancing in great strides at developing a method of producing "oil" artifically? Renewable energy and its "oil"!
BearFlight 5 months ago
Helping the environment is excellent. Coming up with new ways to fuel the planet is great. Something is better than nothing while we resolve this Environmental and Economical Problem by establishing an Electric infrastructure. But that's not the top concern. The priority now is to end the Killing and Violence that's going on in this World. There are people dying from diseases that needs our immediate help.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy If we were to promote the idea of "electric" or "electric-hybrids" (like the Volt), then we are going to have to start building as many nuclear powerplants as we can, because there is NO other choice for increasing our national power grid. Wind and Solar can NEVER EVER provide enough energy to provide even 10% of our national needs. Besides, it looks like wind generators are going to be banned in California anyway.
BearFlight 5 months ago
You would think Engineers who build Generators that create electricity have at least some kind of experience in building Electric Generators. And they do. However, it doesn't mean they have the ability to excel their study in ways beyond imaginable. Even when I say in quote, "Only experts in that Field will know, therefore we shouldn't speak much about it because we don't know enough of it", how would good new ideas be heard?? What if someone knows.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy About those wind generators seen up and down the California skyline, first of all they are a visual blight on the landscape, they provide little overall energy, their cost to build/operate is prohibitive, they're also quite unreliable as well. Now it turns out they have another problem that there is NO cure for, they're extremely harmful to birds. The Audubon Society has reported that they killed 4,700 birds in 2010, including 70 California Golden Eagles (of only 2,500 known).
BearFlight 5 months ago
Birds probably don't see those fans. They were used to flying free in the skies. Airplanes once killed many birds. Death rates have dramatically reduced. Birds, in my opinion, will gradually become more aware of the Wind Turbines.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy You're really naive about the world aren't you! YOU CAN'T GROW OR PROCESS ENOUGH FOOD TO FEED THE WORLD WITHOUT OIL! Oil is needed for the fertilizer, the equipment to pick it or process the feed for animals, to transport the food products, the packaging, and for you to cook and prepare it at home. You can't even water plants without oil. Your compuer is made from oil. If you have a cell phone, its made from "oil" and so is the equipment it transmits on. Oil is in everything.
BearFlight 5 months ago
I feed my family with the crops I grow in my back yard (Corn, Lettuce, Tomatoes). The chickens I raise provide food for me. The water I get is from the rain which I collect and store in an enclosed tank. Most of it is used for planting. Sometimes I go to the Fresh Water Lake to get Free Water.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy The death rate of birds from airplanes and from those idiotic wind generators has INCREASED dramatically over the years, not gone down my friend. At the rate the death rate is going up, its estimated the California Golden Eagle will be near extinction within 10 years or less (according to the Audubon Society, not me). Besides, you know how much oil it requires to build just one of those wind generators?
BearFlight 5 months ago
I think wind turbines are made mostly of metal. Could require some special plastic which is made from Alcohol. Alcohol is derived from Burning of Crude Oil.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy Wind turbines are primarily made of materials that contain metals and plastics that all involving oil at varying levels of oil. Plastics are made entirely of "oil", rather that be paint to the insulation of the wiring and on. Very nice you proved you could grow some food for yourself, just try and do that for 6.5 billion people without oil. Can't be done my friend. Also, YOU CANNOT produce electricity without having a source of ENERGY to produce it, its always a trade-off.
BearFlight 5 months ago
Not all plastics are made from OiL. And its not Oil That it's made from. It's made from Alcohol that came from OiL. However, Corn isn't turned into OiL to make Ethanol Plastics. It's burnt into Alcohol and Heated up to solid form with additions of Silica. A metal cannot contain a metal. Neither do plastics contain a Plastic unless you are using a larger one to contain a smaller one inside of it.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy Do you realize that "oil" is ORGANIC? Oil comes from seaborne alge that settled to the sea-bed during times of intense global warming, 65 to 175 million years ago. Nature has its own way of balancing itself and during those times of high average temperatures, the atmosphere was also high in CO2, so the alge formed in the static oceans, scrubbing the CO2 from the atmosphere, then settled to the seabed which then degraded eventually into oil, tar sands, coal, shale, or diamonds.
BearFlight 5 months ago
Are there Living Cells in Crude OiL?
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy You've got the right idea about we need to get away from gasoline, but the decisions about what to convert to, starting now, has to be right and it has to be made with "common sense". We can switch to EUD fuel immediately, because ALL of the vehicle manufacturers have EUD vehicles, that's technology that has been well thought out and in Europe they have replaced 50% of the licensed vehicles powered by gasoline with EUD powered cars, in Europe, in 15 years.
BearFlight 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy There are some basic facts about oil that the general public is unaware of. First of all, 72% of the world's "known" oil reserves are in the United States (yes; the United States has more than twice as much as oil as the rest of the world combined), when both conventional and non-conventional sources are totaled. If we can acheive 90% fleet replacement from gasoline to an alternate source, in the next 40 years, we have about 600-650 years of oil reserves right here at home.
BearFlight 5 months ago
From my research, we have about 2 Trillion Barrels of OiL left underground. That's good enough for 40 years of Gasoline for the world to use. I don't know how much OiL reserves we have, but we need to stop because OiL is Earth's Blood.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy Between 1859 and current, the entire world has used up 1.1 Trillion barrels of oil, its estimated that the world has roughly 1.5 Trillion barrels left (based on known reserves outside the USA). The USA alone has at least 2.1 Trillion barrels all by ourselves of recoverable oil (both conventional and unconventional). Based on July 2008 world useage numbers of 85M BPD, leaving about 105-115 years of oil left if we do nothing about replacing gasoline with a practical replacement.
BearFlight 5 months ago
If there's 100 years of OiL Left, why are we charging $4.00 a gallon??
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy You're a bit naive on chemistry, but water contains a hydrogen "atom", hench "H2O". Methane is something altogether different. Natural Gas is a bi-product of petroleum, which has naturally been refined in the ground at lower pressure and higher temperatures. The USA has 651 Trillion cubic feet of natural occuring Natural Gas. Natural Gas is a molecule chain that appears as "HC+HC+HC+HC". Methane is another natural occuring gas, which has a predictable formula of "CH4".
BearFlight 5 months ago
Is the Natural Gas we use even Natural?
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy "If there's 100 years of oil left, why are we charging $4.00 a gallon??" Good question, but the answer is even simpler. Irrational/fanatical environmentalists are causing the problem. In March of 2007, the world demand for oil hit 85.1M BPD and the maximum world oil production level is 85.1M BPD, so the oil producing countries ran the price of oil up to $149 per barrel in July of 2008. The USA has all the oil, but irrational environmentalists won't let us drill here at home.
BearFlight 5 months ago
We don't need OiL. All we need is Food, Water and Shelter. All this building and development stuff does nothing but cause societal and environmental problems. 1,200 years ago during the Enlightenment Period Chemists and Physicists came to be. Kings and Queens were done with giving way to Modern Government and Military. A new form of thinking and rule. They began Exploring and Colonizing Land, spreading Government Ideologies and Political Beliefs. Poor Countries weren't advanced in Technology.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy "We don't need Oil. All we need is Food, Water, and Shelter." Explain to me then just how are you going to feed and shelter 6.5 billion people without oil? Can't be done. If we cut off our oil supplies, you will kill people, first hundreds, then thousands, and finally millions. No oil, then there can never be enough food to feed the world! You don't have any idea just how inter-woven into our society and our very survival oil is, do you?
BearFlight 5 months ago
Its called seeds and soil. Make a bucket out of branches to hold water to water the soil. We don't need oil to build simple shelters.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy You are kinda of a ridiculous person lol. Fossil fuels make the modern world go round. The whole world is not going to just stop using it. Even if they did, they would invite attack and ruin. You may want to pick up a history book.
Warpath2198 4 months ago
Fossil Fuels are not Fossils. No Fossils made Fossil Fuels. No Dead Dinosaur made Crude Oil.
heartlessvietboy 4 months ago
@heartlessvietboy What everyone doesn't realize, is that "oil" is vital to human survival and today, the 4 necessary things to our surviving as a species is (in order of importance):
1. Air
2. Water
3. Oil
4. Food
Oil becomes before food, because we can't produce the food necessary to feed a world with 6.5 Billion people without oil. No oil, no food. Oil is everything and without oil we loose: transportation, communication, food, shelter, clothing, everything goes without it.
BearFlight 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy You have what is called a "pedestrian" view of technology and I say that with all due respect, but I'm an engineer that has worked in the transportation energy and automotive industry for over 40 years and I have been a big proponent of getting our transportaton vehicles off of gasoline for nearly 4 decades, we have no choice, our future depends on it.
BearFlight 5 months ago
What would happen if I can build for you the self-sustaining (self-charging) electric car? Would you think people would listen and go electric or would they still want the Hydrogen Car?
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy "What would happen if I can build for you the self-sustaining (self-charging) electric car?" Well, you're too late, that technology has been theorized for decades and though you can't acheive 100% self-sustainment, you can get to about 85% efficiency, but the costs to the enviornment and our oil sources are counter-productive.
BearFlight 5 months ago
What do you mean by 85% efficiency? Whatever it is we need to stop polluting Earth with Toxic Batteries and Noxious Gasses.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy "What do you mean by 85% efficiency?" Well, the method of using a generator to power an electric motor to drive an automobile is a constant loss endeavor. The generator is at a constant 15% over-demand against the motor, so you have no reserve energy to drive the vehicle, as the generator requires a consistant 15% greater demand than the motor can provide. You're trying to invent " Perpetual Motion" which is a bit like trying to make "gold" from "lead"! Can't be done.
BearFlight 5 months ago
If it's 15% "Over"-Demand, how can it be Under-Demand? For example, you have a Generator that works to produce a magnetic field. That Magnetic Field, when comes in contact with metals, can create electricity. I'm not an expert in the study of Generating Electricity, but so far to my knowledge getting enough electricity to operate a Large Machine would require that Generator to run for a while before reaching the Magnetic Field required. In this case the required amount to run an Electric car.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy As for electricity, your idea about a generator hooked to a transformer to an electric motor sounds good, but its false technology. The generator demands more energy than the motor can provide, so there is no energy left over to drive the vehicle. The only answer to the dilemma is what you see above, but it requires fuel (in the case of the Volt, its gasoline). You still haven't answer the question where you're going to get the electricity to re-charge these electric cars?
BearFlight 5 months ago
Using Magnets to spin a turbine doesn't require energy. The only energy (electricity) involved is the electricity to make the Magnets. That electricity comes from flowing water.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy We engineers have a pretty good handle on how electricity works my friend, sorry, there's no magic bullet here. We're out of sources for building dams to use the kinetic energy of flowing water to drive generators to produce electricity. Solar and wind are too problematic, they're too costly, they're both massively inefficient, and way too unreliable, they can never be more than a supplement. For the future of our country and the world for that matter, NUCLEAR is it for now.
BearFlight 5 months ago
If I've proven to you that its possible to create electricity without needing an energy source, what's there to argue about? Nuclear was a great source because Uranium -238 can Light for 18 Months without Dying, however it's safety is in Question.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy Even if electric cars (or electric hybrids like the Volt) become the rage, they won't, but let just give them the benefit of the doubt anyway and say that 1 million of them get sold by 2015, like that idiot Obama would like. That's still only 0.3% of the number of licensed vehicles in America, not much to right home about.
BearFlight 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy By the way, you don't know much about the oil business do you. Exxon/mobil was not subsidized for Sakhalon or any other of their investments into their projects. Same goes for Chevron/Devlon at Jack2 or Tahiti Syndrome, either of which cost $10B each. Because of US Governmental stupidity influenced by enviornmental wackos, the oil companies are forced to go to extraordinary lengths to get oil. Ultimately costing you an me for the price of gasoline.
BearFlight 5 months ago
To prevent from paying Investors, Corporations Claim Bogus Operation Costs. They pay Politicians under the table to Lessen their Income Revenue. They make Donations to Charity to prevent from paying Taxes. They increase production costs by wasting resources.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy I've got a good question for you, do you know who developed and patented the advanced design battery system in the Chevrolet Volt, in the above video????
Exxon/Mobil did, that's who!
My favorite thing is how the news media is lying to the public, claiming the Oil Companies are making huge amounts of money, but they're lying to you. In 1st quarter 2009, it was reported Exxon earned $11.8B, but they forgot to mention one oil rig (Sakhalon 1) cost Exxon $12.9B, just one rig!
BearFlight 5 months ago
That's not $12.9B. That's a promissory note from Government to Corporation. And Exxon Mobile didn't Develop the Lithium Battery for the Volt, it Funded Engineers to do so and claiming it as The Exxon Voltec Drive System. It has the money to do so. Nobody else can because Banks won't loan them the amount needed to open a Corporation WorldWide.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
A Three Magnet Magnetic Motor Generator will not demand more energy. It functions alone and by itself by using the Magnetic Field of 3Magnets Aligned at the proper angles which causes spinning then creating an electrical field.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy You know, you're letting your ignorance show a bit much by saying "..A Three Magnet Magnetic Motor Generator will not demand more energy. It functions alone and by itself by using the Magnetic Field of 3Magnets Aligned at the proper angles which causes spinning then creating an electrical field."
Your idea works, engineers figured that out over a 100 years ago, but you forgot about something, it uses100% of its own energy to keep spinning, its useless to operate anything.
BearFlight 5 months ago
1. If it's true that Transformers or Ultra-Capacitors can't increase (Voltage) electricity then the electric car is doomed.
2. If it's true that Magnets Can't Be Aligned at proper angles to spin automatically and create electricity somehow than it's also doomed.
Whatever it is, as long as it's clean and doesn't require damaging the earth then it's OK.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy Prt 1: Your heart's in the right place, but you (like millions of misguided individuals) need to understand the nature and level of the problem. We must replace gasoline (which absolutely must be done) with something that is enviornmentally clean, practical in its application, and a fuel that is available in huge volumes. That's a pretty tough nut to crack, but we already know how that can be done. Oil is vital to the future of society, so we need to stop wasting it as fuel.
BearFlight 5 months ago
Crude OiL is not a Vital for the future of society. Food, Water and Air is Vital for the future of society.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy "Crude Oil is not Vital for the future of society. Food, Water and Air vital for the future of society." Okay heartlesvietboy, you don't have a clue do you. OIL IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL TO OUR SURVIVAL, WITHOUT OIL, THERE IS NO, let me repeat, THERE IS NO FOOD!!!!!!!!!!! You cannot grow or produce food for 6.5B people without it, that's why we absolutely have to stop using as fuel. Without oil, there is no food, no communication, no medicines, no elecrical wind or solar energy.
BearFlight 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy Prt 2: The ONLY practical answer is liquid hydrogen. There are problems, but those problems can be overcome.
Problem 1: Currently what little LH is made, is made from Natural Gas.
Solution to 1: Make it from sea water instead.
Problem 2: LH made from sea water requires electricity, a whole lot of electricity.
Solution for 2: We need to start licensing new design nuclear powerplants immediately, we will need at least 50 new nuke plants within 25-35 years.
BearFlight 5 months ago
By the way, what is the process it takes to create Lightning Bolts? Don't they contain large amounts of Electrical Current that we can use to run our Electric Motors?
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy Prt 3:
Problem 3: LH cannot be piped, except for short distances!
Solution to 3: De-centralized the manufacturer of LH
Problem 4: LH powered vehicles are not generally available and we have 312M vehicles to replace!
Solution to 4: Current gasoline powered vehicles can easily be converted over to run on LH (cost is minimal for the conversion), but a "flex-fuel" capability between gas to LH is not possible, its either one or the other.
BearFlight 5 months ago
If I'm still hearing that the Atmosphere is covered in 75% Hydrogen, yet at the same time its 75% Nitrogen, that's the reason why I question. If i'm still hearing that the Atmosphere is 75% Oxygen but 75% Neon, that's the reason why I question. Add up Einsteins equations and you'll see it's full of error. This matter, antimatter stuff is balogny.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy Prt 4:
Problem 5: LH is highly volatile (explosive).
Problem 5: This has, for the most part, been overcome by use of pyrite absorption metals used as pressure vessel filler (cyrogenic hydrogen, cyrogenic hydrogen peroxide, or mono-lithic hydrozene).
Advantage 1: Liquid hydrogen has 2.76 times the BTU rating of gasoline (2.76 times the energy per pound as gasoline). If your car gets 20 mpg on gasoline, you'll get 55.2 mpg on LH.
Advantage 2: Only emissions is water!
BearFlight 5 months ago
I wouldn't drink that water just yet but to produce substantial amounts of them and test them in man-made Lakes with Fishes. Testing a cup doesn't say it's good water. Sometimes testing lies in large amounts together (in this case by volume of water) to see it's real impact on health and environment. It may become Lake Hydrogen sitting out in the open air for 6 months.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy I think its important you understand that electric cars are not "doomed", they're just not the answer to our general problem of gasoline use. There will always be room for "electric" cars and there already is a very successful electric car manufacturer, based in Salt Lake City, that manufacturers commercial (small pickups and passenger) electric vehicles for use as inter-city service vehicles and taxis. Plus there are those individuals that have short commutes to work.
BearFlight 5 months ago
Do you know if it's possible to take little amounts of electricity from a Battery and creating more? And when we can create enough we can use that to run our Electric Motors thus lessening the Battery Usage. Running Electron Current (From Battery) to Capacitors (engineering design) that can multiply electricity 3X's will lessen Battery Usage Tremendously.
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
@heartlessvietboy CORRECTION: In the below post I stated "....Liquid Hydrogen is made by seperating the H molecule from a natural source,.." and it should have been "...Liquid Hydrogen is made by seperating the H "atom" from a natural source,.."! "atom" not "molecule".
BearFlight 5 months ago
Is there a Hydrogen Molecule in Natural Gas (Methane)?? If so, can it combust if we collect enough of them?
heartlessvietboy 5 months ago
The volt or Nissan Leaf or other "electric" or "electric-hybrids" are interesting projects and those that purchase them can have that "feel-good" attitude about driving them, but they are not the answer to replacing the gasoline powered US fleet. Currently there is "ONLY" one answer to the problem of gasoline and its liquid hydrogen. Why you ask? There are 312,000,000 registered vehicles in the US running on gasoline, so we have to find something available in volume to replace gasoline.
BearFlight 5 months ago
@kiiro The fuel mileage when the eng-gen is running is highly varible, depending upon rather you're running gasoline or E85 ethanol. Gasoline with 3% or higher ethanol content is highly problematic. Ethanol only has 47% the energy per pound as gasoline. You factor in the basic fact that it requires 1.2 to 1.5 gallons of crude oil to produce 1 gallon of E85, running E85 increases our dependence on foreign oil by 27% over gasoline.
BearFlight 5 months ago
You should save about 30K in gas over 8-10 years versus an SUV, assuming gas prices don't go up and you drive 20,000K per year....
MrEnergyCzar 5 months ago 21
@MrEnergyCzar Vehicles like the Chevrolet Volt (electric-hybrid) and Nissan Leaf (electric) are all interesting exercises in technology development, but they are in the long run irrelevant to the overall problem of our use of gasoline as a transportation fuel. Initially in America, we have a political problem to get past first, as the political party that is creating the most roadblocks to transportation energy conversion and energy independency generally are Democrats.
BearFlight 5 months ago
One Volt owner is getting 780 mpg, he must drive 35 miles or less per day....
dustmonk74 5 months ago 19
Id sure like to know the Mpg's on this thing when the gas gen is running. Cuz thats prob whats going to be happening in real world use. I cant even make it to work and back on batt power only.
kiiiro 5 months ago
the most ugly car ever made, eww! obviously in my opinion... no offence
SkateEmoxXx 5 months ago
@SkateEmoxXx deff not the ugliest
marcodillo 5 months ago
Automobile Companies should install Factory Decks for their customers. Factory Stereo CD Changer System Damage often and is something that would satisfy customer needs. After Market Stereo Changers look sloppy or doesn't fit well in the center console.
tnguyen318 5 months ago
@tnguyen318 this is the dumbest comment i've ever read. if gm put a deck in the car it would not be after market, not only that but cd's are a thing of the past.
1049pm 5 months ago
Wow you are smart. I said GM should make available Factory Stereo Decks for their Customers. Car Companies don't do it. When your stereo fails you have to buy one at Best Buy which looks funny on your center console.
tnguyen318 5 months ago
@tnguyen318 oh it looked like you were saying that car companies should install the ones that are sold at best buy. haha oops
1049pm 5 months ago
GM better not destroy the car like ev 1 cars
sexyrene008 5 months ago
The Volt is a piece of crap.
In the future, it will be compared to the Communist's Trabant.
*shrug*
bosszeroboss 5 months ago
why not have and alternator that runs off the motor to recharge the battery? infinate power??
Comrade005 6 months ago
@Comrade005 Lol I hope your not serious. I couldn't tell.
thedarkone2134 5 months ago
@thedarkone2134 first of all your comment doesnt make any sense and second, im only 15 so can u explain why its not possible?
Comrade005 5 months ago
@Comrade005 Ah, I though you were older. Infinite power is impossible thanks the first law of thermodynamics. No matter what you do energy will always be wasted and as such, you will eventually run out.
For infinite power you need no noise, heat or anything else given off as it is all wasted energy.
You can't get more energy out of something then you put in, so while an alternator hooked up would give you a tiny bit more time, it would increase load on the system and overall be a major waste.
thedarkone2134 5 months ago
what happened to 300 mpg general motors? people started to realize your claim of 300 mpg was bs so you quietly withdrew those claims.
yesssigotmail 6 months ago 2
@yesssigotmail Ya gm is like any other car company, they bring out technology in doses, i am sure they have cars that are amazing on fuel, and continue to suppress technology as do the other companies
strikerssrx 5 months ago
Have you seen the Chevrolet Volt?
The Chevrolet what?
No, not the "Chevrolet WATT", the "Chevrolet VOLT"
Oh. So, what is a "Volt"?
No, a "WATT" is NOT a "volt". A "volt" is the SI unit of power, equivalent to one joule per second and equal to the power in a circuit in which a current of one ampere flows across a potential difference of one volt. A "watt" is a unit of electrical force."
WHAT is a unit of electrical force?
Yes
Yes, what?
Yes, watt
Pass me a beer
friesandfries 6 months ago 5
Holy jumping electric bill batman!.
cougarfighting 6 months ago
@cougarfighting it only costs about $1.50 a day
puop 6 months ago
can't believe this car made it as a transfomers autobot :O
that's a good thing!
ivanovarinaldy 7 months ago
I love my new Volt. 5000 miles so far and I average only using 5 gallons of gasoline a month. As for the comments about it not selling the launch has been intentionally slow to make sure everything is perfect… And I can assure you this car is perfect. The waiting list is long and it's well worth the wait. Once you've driven a volt you will never want to drive anything else again. And the best part, it's made in Detroit
michaeltrofeo88 7 months ago
I test drove a Chevy Volt for the first time today. It was just what I had thought it would be. My unbias critique of the Chevy Volt is that its the best Hybrid Battery Vehicle out there in the Market. You can go 40 miles on battery before the gasoline engine kicks in to keep you going for another 350 miles. Great Work GM.
heartlessvietboy 6 months ago
@heartlessvietboy nissan leaf is better
rray1212 6 months ago
@rray1212
But the volt is prettier. gg
deathcrusader 6 months ago
The ultimate vehicle when preparing for Peak Oil....
MrEnergyCzar 7 months ago
THER'S A $9,000 GOVERNMENT REBATE FOR THE CAR HERE IN ONTARIO !!!!!!! :)
famidge2 7 months ago
@famidge2 Sounds awesome but the car is going to start somewhere in the mid 40's
PONTIACGRANDPRIX 6 months ago
The Chevy Volt will only get more mileage on Electricity as Battery Technology improves. All I need is 30 more miles on Pure Electric Mode and it will fulfill my personal driving needs. I commute 60 miles a day. The Volt currently offer 40 miles.
heartlessvietboy 7 months ago
@heartlessvietboy rumor has it by 2013 Gm will give the volt up 100 miles on EV and be cheaper and better mpg in extended range maybe a rotatory or diesel engine.
lilgman191 7 months ago
That would be awesome!! 100 Miles of Pure Electric Drive is enough to Satisfy 90% of American's Daily Driving Needs. Rotary and Diesel (Clean Sulphur Technology) would be cool!!
heartlessvietboy 7 months ago
People want to buy Hybrid Electric Cars to save money. I don't think that should just be the reason why. Hybrid Electrics are also good for the environment. The more we clean up the Planet, the better it is for the Health of our Children.
tnguyen318 6 months ago
y'all can hate on the volt, but it is the only name brand "electric car"(i'm more than well aware it a hybrid) in the market right now. The leaf is shit, it takes 16 hours to charge with the standard outlet which is what most people have. Regardless of what the company is trying to get, if it lowers dependancy on foreign oil, then great. Also, you shouldn't hate on this car, we all know you probably just can't afford it anyway, so you complain.
BdroVids 7 months ago
why is everybody talking bad about this car. its a great car. helps the environment, looks better than i Prius. i would get it.
Alexgotnicebody 7 months ago
Tell me why Toyota can introduce a hybrid like the Prius and have great success...and yet, GM comes out with the Volt ..and no one wants to buy it?? LOL From what I remember, the old EV1 probably had better range than this piece of crap....LOL, It's hard to believe that the battery range wouldn't have changed over the last 10 years. GM just plain sucks......
paulfornasier 7 months ago
This is such a crappy review...LOL. I would buy a Prius any day...before buying this pile of crap. The range on electric is absolutely terrible for this vehicle.... Another piece of crap car from GM...LOL I bet GM will go down the tube again...when the next recession comes along....and this company will eventually get trashed...and sold off. They are so resistant to REAL change....almost like the catholic church...LOL. The Americans will get tired of a company on welfare support...
paulfornasier 7 months ago