Al Gore's climate scientist studies have shown that capitalist countries CO2 emissions, are 1000000 times more harmful than CO2 emissions from communist countries like China
Does smoking cause Lung Cancer? Or does the human body flush the toxins from cigarettes as effectively as the planet (removes/ cleans/ flushes/ filters/ dilutes) the waste pumped into the atmosphere as Lord Mockery suggests??
I like how she attempts to smear him at the end saying that he is funded by a retired engineer, classic abc when you can't win the debate you try and smear the enemy as most socialists do.
Liar! He has never published A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G in the peer rewieved scientific literature. Why can't any of thise half-witted journalist do their homework for once and call him on this bullshit?
I am amazed as to why people attack this man. Is it really important whether or not he is a Lord? I mean, it's not a matter of life or death is it? If you disagree with the man, attacks his arguments not his credentials or personality. Time and time again, countless individuals have come up against this man and every single last one of them has quite frankly looked pathetic in comparison. He is simply brilliant and by any measure of logic - it is impossible to deny!
This 'Lord' is NOT a member of the House of Lords at all, actually. He is a fraud, from every angle. He is a jawless, saggy-jowled, bug-eyed, scary-looking, pompous self-aggrandising creature .. with a sneering, ugly smirk. He uses hackneyed phraseology .. "Do your homework" .. "get used to it" .. "go figure" .. "look at the literature" etc, etc. Academia itself is largely a fraud .. I've been there, seen it first-hand. They use big, over-fancy words, to confound & confuse. Monckton GO HOME !!
@colindominy "Academia itself is largely a fraud .. I've been there, seen it " I'm confused...are you agreeing with him or disagreeing? By the way he is a Lord...to be a Lord you don't have to be a member of the house of Lords, you complete moron...do you research.. this is the information age ffs
@bd886 further to that town planners in major cities like NY now factor climate change into their cityscapes matching see level rises to sea walls etc. Because really they don't give too shits what a corporate hack says or a politician. The facts are in and they are trying to minimize the damage. I would love it if people actually admitted the truth. They could not give a dam about the cost as long as they can make more money. Science is not a joke nor is evidence
@bd886 And that is the thing if you really don't think the science adds up present your evidence, take your claim to the scientific community. sadly the world of public opinion that me and you live in is also a reality. And sadly there is nothing I can do about it. You have really won the debate, the climate will not be fixed and the planet will suffer. But facts are facts. Let your grandchildren judge you! Having the freedom to spend your money is all this about, facts and reality don't count
@bd886 I follow the science and I am sorry that you believe that scientist are somehow lying to you. The reality is "man made climate change' is a fact. Not one single scientific organization in the world disagrees. The only reason people who are not scientists object is because of the amount of money that corporate interests have thrown in a campaign to mislead (missile) the public. It has worked. If you could prove man made climate change was not real you would win the nobel prize tbc
@bd886 Fucking dam straight he does and dam straight is is one lying fuck. The guy cannot lie straight in bed. But he has enough suckers who follow blindly. He is a joke.
You proved you're not worth debating. It's certainly worth insulting you, though. The epitome of arrogance on topics they are ignorant of, would be 99% of Greenpeace protesters who have not made even the slightest serious effort to understand the science and can only say 'consensus' over and over again like a demented parrot.
@irishgodfatherchris Keep making sense. Maybe your mum will be proud of you someday... Never voted "right wing" in my entire life. Now stop blowing smoke out your arse and be told.
@irishgodfatherchris What facts, dickhead? Don't make me laugh. I'm sure like every other sheep on the subject you have an intricate understanding of environmental science... in your own limited mind. People used to think the sun revolved around the earth, because it looks like it does. But how would it have looked if the opposite were true? The one thing that's a fact is that climate changes, and much more dramatically than the fear mongers are selling. THAT's a fact.
@mlawren7 you name me one that says global warming does not exist, my best friend is Timorese, I'm lower middle class. Think before opening your mouth
She said it! "I'm at a disadvantage because I'm not a scientist..."! Very few of us are scientist, and yet most people are 100% convinced that Climate Change is real. These people need to ask themselves one simple question: What would I know about it?
Fran Kelly is right with one thing, she is not a scientist. People who gloss over the whole "global warming" Issue and then expect to be able to hold their own in an interview with someone like Lord Moncton are delirious. This man knows what he is talking about (unlike most journo's)
@Detroit8V92tta Monckton has no clue what he's on about, he goes around saying I'm a British peer so I'm right, and he gets upset when people treat him with the contempt he deserves
@irishgodfatherchris Every single word you said was wrong. When people as stupid as you open your mouth, even words like "and" and "the" become hopeless lies. You are wrong in that absolute sense in which it's highly doubtful that you'll be write about anything. You are just a yapping dog.
@mlawren7 also I know you're right-wing because instead of debating all you do is resort to personal insults, which is inherent on you ill-informed prats
So instead of debating Monckton, academics are calling for the University of Notre Dame in Fremantle to cancel one of his lectures. What a bunch of parasites.
Thanks for uploading. A very interesting interview, the interviewer was obviously very uncomfortable with being confronted with the sheer logic of his position which contradicts her own viewpoint (and that of the ABC).
there has been no statistically significant global warming for 16 years, we've had global cooling for 10 years, since 2001 the earth has been cooling, since 2003 the oceans have been cooling. arctic icecap has restored itself. there are 5 times as many polar bears as there were 40 years ago.550 million years ago during the cambrian era, carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere where 20 times today's levels, and the oceans didn't acidify, the seas didnt rise. all in all global warming is a hoax
I love the part where the interviewer, Lefty ABC 'journalist' Fran Kelly. after questioning Monckton's qualifications ("no peer-reviewed work"), responds to his point about the IPCC ignoring the Medieval Warm Period with. "well, i'm not able to debate the science with you" - or words to that effect.
The icecaps are melting....OH NOO...those damn SUV's are killing our planet! Uhhh...wait, the icecaps on Mars are melting as well, and the last time I checked, there weren't any gas stations there yet. Which leave only one plainly obvious explanation. Look up in the sky on a cloudless day and feel the heat coming off that fireball that lights everything up. What are we going to do, tax the cosmos for generating too much heat??
Lord Christopher Monckton is backed by fact not fiction, rest easy people and do your own research, mad made global warming is a SCAM, it's just a grab for cash and power, ignore the alarmist bed wetters and go have a great life :)
@utesonline He is backed by quotemining and misunderstanding sources, a poor understanding of climate science, and having no scientific credentials whatsoever. The difference between climatologists and this guy is that they actually know what they are talking about!
@TheGamanic Monckton does no quotemining, much to your chagrin. He has excellent background in science. He does laugh at the obsession with "experts" telling the rest of us how to live. Pay attention, no one has ever debated him and rebutted what he says. This ordinary man ( that must bother you) speaks for the rest of us and the bothers you. Monckton speaks his mind and no one, esp algore, will face him on the facts.
@aquartlow "Monckton does no quotemining, much to your chagrin"- He has been caught out many times doing it, just look at this link /watch?v=C3giRaGNTMA&feature=channel_video_title
"He has excellent background in science"- Despite having no formal qualifications in the subject nor having ever published in a respectable peer-reviewed journal. Plus he is denounced by those in the scientific field as a loon.
@aquartlow "He does laugh at the obsession with "experts" telling the rest of us how to live"- If by "experts" you mean "climatologists" then they don't actually say anything about how people should live. They only give facts about climate i.e. increased carbon emissions means more warming. It is upto governments or the people to decide how to act upon that information
"Pay attention, no one has ever debated him and rebutted what he says"- Wrong again. Type in "tim lambert monkcton" in youtube
@TheGamanic "Pay attention, no one has ever debated him and rebutted what he says"- Wrong again. Type in "tim lambert monkcton" in youtube"
LOL............put that crack pipe down mate. I watched that before and Monckton destroyed Lambert. Utterly destroyed him. You warming fanatics will soon begin bombing pizza parlors and pubs. That is what fascists do when they are desperate.
@TheGamanic " Forbes magazine: “Three themes are emerging from the newly released emails: (1) prominent scientists central to the global warming debate are taking measures to conceal rather than disseminate underlying data and discussions; (2) these scientists view global warming as a political ’cause’ rather than a balanced scientific inquiry and (3) many of these scientists frankly admit to each other that much of the science is weak and dependent on deliberate manipulation of facts and data.”
He calls himself what he wants to. I couldn't care less. We Americans have Constitutional proscriptions against heraldry. He eats, defacates, sleeps and eventually will die. This makes him ordinary.
@aquartlow I highly doubt that anyone involved in climate science is "running scared" from the supposed "Climategate 2.0" (when there wasn't even a first one). Furthermore why do you suppose that liberals are the ones that support climate science; it is a scientific issue, not a political one, hence anyone should, if their political beliefs are rational, base their views on scientific evidence not dogma. Surely you do that?
@TheGamanic "it is a scientific issue, not a political one, hence anyone should, if their political beliefs are rational, base their views on scientific evidence not dogma. Surely you do that?"
I totally disagree. I am not trying to be disagreeable. It has always been political and NEVER seriously scientific.
Step back and look at the entire Earth-as-Mother movement. It's natural home is not the Conservative world but the leftwing world. Look at the membership in toto. Watermelon.
@TheGamanic Christine Stewart, Canadian Minister of the Environment: "No matter if the science of global warming is all phony... climate change [provides] the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world."
I can help. I can conveniently tell you to read the words C. Stewart uttered and you can figure them out yourself context or no contest. The words " No matter if the science of global warming is all phony" confuses you?
@aquartlow Nice try, but only an idiot would accept anything less than a full script of the speech to base their opinion on. I highly doubt that you have read or heard the speech in its entirety..
Anyone that thinks this world government is rubbish is an ignorant moron with the intelligence of a grasshopper including this journalists moron stooge, go read the draft you sellouts. No Brain no Gain.
Copenhagen was a global government treaty that would have dissolved our constitution under the disguise of a climate change agreement all based of fraudulent science and its lame journalists like this that doesnt cover the truth should be held for incompetence or treason for not doing her job
in the last 30 years we could have had something to do with global warming
he says .
What a wanker hundreds of years of stripping the trees [CO2 capture] and the burning of those trees [CO2 release]burning oil and coal would have nothing to do with it.
Watch the videos, he tells you. Its not just 1 piece of information is a whole array of different information on different subjects leading to the bigger picture.
Biggest hoodwink in History. My God he's right & as much as I hate to hear myself admit it the Man has a valid point. I was a Green Voter and now an ex Al Gore fanatic. Gore is making millions and won't debate anyone what a fake! Thankfully I was saved by our democracy and the right to hear both sides of the argument. Remember the science was supposed to be beyond debate then we find out at least 9 of the far fetched claims are wrong! Michael Crichtons State of Fear sums it all up. Hoodwink!
Which 'world leaders'? When? What did 'they' say? Nothing 'Lord' Monckton said in that video was specific. it was all generalisations with no facts to back it up. No-one who is 'incredibly well-informed' prattles on like that without backing it up with evidence and facts, which he clearly does not have because they do not exist. Idiots like this parade the world like the emperor who has no clothes. I'm all for exposing corruption but Lord Monckton and his ilk are no help at all.
I'm quite prepared to be wrong. Point me to the evidence and I'll read up on it. I'm aware this kind of debate has been going on for many years; it's in the same stable as '12 people rule the world' and the 'great Jewish conspiracy'. Please show me where I can check your (or Monckton's) facts.
I used to be a strong supporter of the Global Climate Change theory, like you; however, after seeing Lord Moncktons presentations I am a proud climate change denier. Just watch and I swear you will change your opinion, you seem reasonable. Any presentation is good but the one I like the most is the interview by Michael Coren (I think I spelled it correctly).
No science meetings but I am going to school for Biotechnology. nvironmental Science being one of the classes I have to take, we are religiously fed the Anthropogenic Climate Change theory. What I'm saying is that I've heard almost every scientific argument out there for AGW and Lord Monckton debunks them all.
@australianews Im sorry. I support monkton in some of his statements regarding HOW science should be done. And that IPCC have showed poor judgement on following this. I hope they do a proper investigation, so that real science can be done. I dont think IPCC is 100% unbiased. What is the result of all this scare, is the cap-n-trade policy which will not work and does more harm than good. Monckton is not a scientist, but political policies I'm pretty sure he knows.
Well, I didn't want to bring politics into it - his views are suspect enough as it is - but one of the reports quoted him saying a 'communist world government', which suggests a possible political agenda behind his anti-climate-change stance, quite apart from his indirect link with the oil industry. None of this can be easily proved. Best just to steer clear of him.
Thanks for posting, power to that man's elbow. As he always suggests look up the information yourself - GRIP, Uni at Minnesota for sea ice etc. Good man!
Climate Change skeptic is a misnomer, he's a skeptic of the theory pushed by the likes of Al Gore and Pichuari.
By claiming he's a "climate change skeptic" they're making an assertion that he denies climate change within nature, like a knuckle-dragging troglodyte. Talk about spin and propaganda.
I have been a huge fan of Radio National for as long as I can remember. I never even heard this interview as I can no longer stomach the VERY left bias of the ABC. It is sickening that this publically funded media outlet would become so unpalatable. Fran, you are either a socialist or a prostitute. Don't lie and say you believe in democracy. If you did, you would interview objectively.
Well what about charging your car up on solar panels,it would be free an it wouldn't take long to pay off your solar panels free power for your car an house an oil is not going to last for ever so we are going to have to change,an we the people will be the RICHER.
I must admit I was one of those angry Greenies foaming at the mouth ready to lynch any Denier from the H- Bridge then one day I sat down and let them have a say. I hated every min of it but now I understand we are being lied to by IPCC. Their true agenda is all about the UN's control and domination of the World through a 'One World Gov' not to save the Earth. They use fear to make us yield to their hidden agenda Gore is the front man
I've always been against pollution & the rape of the Earth.
if everyone in every country switched to electric cars not one country would have the ability to produce enough electricity charge the fuckin batteries. well they could by doubling the amount of power stations. that makes sense
Whats find or fined got to do with this dick head monckton,this person is a spinmaster an a politician not a scientist just a paid spinmaster for big business.
Those "scientist" who stand in denial of global warming have FAILED in the last 15 years(!) to produce A SINGLE(!!!), peer-reviewed scientific journal article that challenges the theory and -evidence- of human-induced climate change.
@bobhawks - fyi - you are in the minority! you and your bedwetter mates can now gather and cry together as your fascist utopia crumbles down around you, it is your ignorance and belligerence that always presents you with poop on your face. Lies, Fraud and Treason, take your pick you will be trailed for all three.
Much better than what you could ever achieve. And what do you expect? Of course Monckton is going to look like he's on top; as she admits, she is not a climate expert and is at an obvious disadvantage because of it. Also, she put up a much better fight than SMH's environmental editor.
Australia may have just avoided this big fat global scam at the eleventh hour - but it's not over yet - thanks to UN Rudd's carbon obsession - we still all need to be vigilant and let friends, family, clients and co workers know about how manipulated this warming science is.
@blokeatone They DO attack the man! "He's upper class." (well lucky him!). "He's got bulging eyes." (He has hyperthyroid disease.) "He's arrogant!" (No, he's sincere in his views and states them unequivocally) "He thinks he's above the rest of us." (No, he's concerned about the wider ramifications for humanity in general.) The politics of envy are already obvious in the climate change debate - in fact, I'd go so far as to say that's what it's mostly about...
@mlawren7 He is a lying fucking bigoted fuckhead. He presents nothing but lies and has no regard for anyone besides his backhanders from the energy industry
@mlawren7 Do you know he still claims he was a senior advisor to Margaret Thatcher. Which is a bald faced lie, would you like to read how he continues to quote mine and takes data out of context, uses peoples published work without their consent. the only thing Lord Ha Ha can do right is debate, substance and facts are beyond his scope. It's fucking imbeciles like you who have taken this nation back to Menzies and he would be too left wing for you. Right wing nut jobs stick together LMFAO
What the global warming scaremongers won't tell you is that CO2 was some 20x higher in the Jurassic where life clearly thrived and delicate aragonite corals evolved, WITHOUT a tipping point or runaway greenhouse.
Your Ad Hominem attacks now on anyone with 'a brain' continues. Is this what they taught you in Change Agent School!?
Climategate and the prevalence of good common sense has blown this monkey scam out of the water. Are you sad that you won't continue getting fraudulent funding for fake projects?!
Prove that he is a liar...prove he is discredited...prove that catastrophic global warming will be caused greenhouse gases... then we will stop giving you thumbs down.
This interviewer obviously did not read that Treaty Draft - which most of us have!
Clearly she did not 'get it' to understand what is really going on and why COP15 failed and that the propaganda does not 'register' with the masses anymore. She should google 'Jo Nova' , she could teach this Fran a thing or two!
FYI - as Kevin Rude has been secretly dabbling in the developmt of that Treaty.. 'Treason' and 'Australian Constitution' should be cross referenced!
Lord Monckton produces fact upon fact. That all. All verifiable, true, and supported but top scientists. Including Professor Lindsen the top meteorological in the world from MIT.
@andyz0007 You can't despute that, and furthermore he continually encourages you to think for yourself and 'do the research' which many of us lay people have done - reading the works of Prof Bob Carter and Lindzen... to educate and arm ourselves with the science and data to back up the facts. We have an awareness of what is really going on.
Fran lost it, shows herself up as a left socialist lebo looney, unfortunately for her she is a minority and we the majority don't register with her propaganda. At each turn Monckton mowed her down, and when she could not handle it.. she changed focus! We need more Monckton's in Australian politics.
agree, the ABC met their match, they were too afraid to have him on last week, as that nitwit from UNSW was too scarred to debate Monckton, so this is all they could muster.. the interviewer was grasping at straws!
More people need to learn the truth, when the left eco-fascists who want to govern and dictate my movements and bathroom habits we have a major issue on our hands. Whenever someone like Monckton appears on the scene they are stiff with terror in the influence he has OVER their lies and waffle.
No substance in the left, and no substance in being inhumane.
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Al Gore's climate scientist studies have shown that capitalist countries CO2 emissions, are 1000000 times more harmful than CO2 emissions from communist countries like China
JoeJohn90 2 months ago
Does smoking cause Lung Cancer? Or does the human body flush the toxins from cigarettes as effectively as the planet (removes/ cleans/ flushes/ filters/ dilutes) the waste pumped into the atmosphere as Lord Mockery suggests??
Kteveb 2 months ago
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Monckton has been exposed as a LIAR and a FRAUD:
Google:
1- Viscount Monckton, another fallen idol of climate denial
2- Realclimate - Monckton makes it uu
3- desmogblog - Christopher Monckton
Monckton is a lacky of the Koch brothers. These 2 men are primarily responsible for the entire denialism movement.
Google:
climatesciencewatch - Koch Industries multibillionaire Koch brothers bankroll attacks on climate change science and policy
sunamori6765 4 months ago
I like how she attempts to smear him at the end saying that he is funded by a retired engineer, classic abc when you can't win the debate you try and smear the enemy as most socialists do.
beefflavouredbolloks 6 months ago
Liar! He has never published A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G in the peer rewieved scientific literature. Why can't any of thise half-witted journalist do their homework for once and call him on this bullshit?
SuperShiningSun 6 months ago
I am amazed as to why people attack this man. Is it really important whether or not he is a Lord? I mean, it's not a matter of life or death is it? If you disagree with the man, attacks his arguments not his credentials or personality. Time and time again, countless individuals have come up against this man and every single last one of them has quite frankly looked pathetic in comparison. He is simply brilliant and by any measure of logic - it is impossible to deny!
MegaPostman77 6 months ago
he is lord you parot research it ....stop being a dick
guitatac 7 months ago
This 'Lord' is NOT a member of the House of Lords at all, actually. He is a fraud, from every angle. He is a jawless, saggy-jowled, bug-eyed, scary-looking, pompous self-aggrandising creature .. with a sneering, ugly smirk. He uses hackneyed phraseology .. "Do your homework" .. "get used to it" .. "go figure" .. "look at the literature" etc, etc. Academia itself is largely a fraud .. I've been there, seen it first-hand. They use big, over-fancy words, to confound & confuse. Monckton GO HOME !!
colindominy 7 months ago
@colindominy "Academia itself is largely a fraud .. I've been there, seen it " I'm confused...are you agreeing with him or disagreeing? By the way he is a Lord...to be a Lord you don't have to be a member of the house of Lords, you complete moron...do you research.. this is the information age ffs
OtagoMark 7 months ago
@colindominy the House of Lords is not hereditary anymore
irishgodfatherchris 6 months ago
@colindominy
Hmmmmmm.....Lord Monckton evidentally frightens you. You should go and do your homework.
aquartlow 4 months ago
@bd886 Link sent for you to watch from one of the leading scientists in the field, 3 videos in series plus watch his other videos
franks2732 7 months ago
@bd886 further to that town planners in major cities like NY now factor climate change into their cityscapes matching see level rises to sea walls etc. Because really they don't give too shits what a corporate hack says or a politician. The facts are in and they are trying to minimize the damage. I would love it if people actually admitted the truth. They could not give a dam about the cost as long as they can make more money. Science is not a joke nor is evidence
franks2732 7 months ago
@bd886 And that is the thing if you really don't think the science adds up present your evidence, take your claim to the scientific community. sadly the world of public opinion that me and you live in is also a reality. And sadly there is nothing I can do about it. You have really won the debate, the climate will not be fixed and the planet will suffer. But facts are facts. Let your grandchildren judge you! Having the freedom to spend your money is all this about, facts and reality don't count
franks2732 7 months ago
@bd886 I follow the science and I am sorry that you believe that scientist are somehow lying to you. The reality is "man made climate change' is a fact. Not one single scientific organization in the world disagrees. The only reason people who are not scientists object is because of the amount of money that corporate interests have thrown in a campaign to mislead (missile) the public. It has worked. If you could prove man made climate change was not real you would win the nobel prize tbc
franks2732 7 months ago
@bd886 Fucking dam straight he does and dam straight is is one lying fuck. The guy cannot lie straight in bed. But he has enough suckers who follow blindly. He is a joke.
franks2732 7 months ago
You proved you're not worth debating. It's certainly worth insulting you, though. The epitome of arrogance on topics they are ignorant of, would be 99% of Greenpeace protesters who have not made even the slightest serious effort to understand the science and can only say 'consensus' over and over again like a demented parrot.
mlawren7 7 months ago
@mlawren7 of course the you are epitome of arrogance as is endemic right-wingers.
irishgodfatherchris 7 months ago
@irishgodfatherchris Keep making sense. Maybe your mum will be proud of you someday... Never voted "right wing" in my entire life. Now stop blowing smoke out your arse and be told.
mlawren7 7 months ago
@mlawren7 really your arrogance and denial in the face of actual facts done by respected scientists and not inbred peers makes me believe otherwise
irishgodfatherchris 7 months ago
@irishgodfatherchris What facts, dickhead? Don't make me laugh. I'm sure like every other sheep on the subject you have an intricate understanding of environmental science... in your own limited mind. People used to think the sun revolved around the earth, because it looks like it does. But how would it have looked if the opposite were true? The one thing that's a fact is that climate changes, and much more dramatically than the fear mongers are selling. THAT's a fact.
mlawren7 7 months ago
@irishgodfatherchris Name ONE "respected scientist." You can't. You are a racist, classist piece of absolute shit, aren't you?
mlawren7 7 months ago
@mlawren7 you name me one that says global warming does not exist, my best friend is Timorese, I'm lower middle class. Think before opening your mouth
irishgodfatherchris 7 months ago
She said it! "I'm at a disadvantage because I'm not a scientist..."! Very few of us are scientist, and yet most people are 100% convinced that Climate Change is real. These people need to ask themselves one simple question: What would I know about it?
mlawren7 7 months ago
Fran Kelly is right with one thing, she is not a scientist. People who gloss over the whole "global warming" Issue and then expect to be able to hold their own in an interview with someone like Lord Moncton are delirious. This man knows what he is talking about (unlike most journo's)
Detroit8V92tta 7 months ago
@Detroit8V92tta Monckton has no clue what he's on about, he goes around saying I'm a British peer so I'm right, and he gets upset when people treat him with the contempt he deserves
irishgodfatherchris 7 months ago
@irishgodfatherchris Every single word you said was wrong. When people as stupid as you open your mouth, even words like "and" and "the" become hopeless lies. You are wrong in that absolute sense in which it's highly doubtful that you'll be write about anything. You are just a yapping dog.
mlawren7 7 months ago
@mlawren7 He is the epitome of arrogance on a topic he knows nothing about, he goes around saying I'm a peer so I'm right. He has no case
irishgodfatherchris 7 months ago
@mlawren7 also I know you're right-wing because instead of debating all you do is resort to personal insults, which is inherent on you ill-informed prats
irishgodfatherchris 7 months ago
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mlawren7 7 months ago
So instead of debating Monckton, academics are calling for the University of Notre Dame in Fremantle to cancel one of his lectures. What a bunch of parasites.
TheMagooey 7 months ago
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Onya Monkton, Fran Kelly still trying to demonstrate that she is not a complete leftoid idiot.
TheMagooey 7 months ago
Onya Monkton, Fran Kelly still trying to demonstrate that she is not a complete idiot.
TheMagooey 7 months ago
Monckton for PM of Australia!
EL20078 7 months ago
Thanks for uploading. A very interesting interview, the interviewer was obviously very uncomfortable with being confronted with the sheer logic of his position which contradicts her own viewpoint (and that of the ABC).
euromellows 9 months ago 2
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there has been no statistically significant global warming for 16 years, we've had global cooling for 10 years, since 2001 the earth has been cooling, since 2003 the oceans have been cooling. arctic icecap has restored itself. there are 5 times as many polar bears as there were 40 years ago.550 million years ago during the cambrian era, carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere where 20 times today's levels, and the oceans didn't acidify, the seas didnt rise. all in all global warming is a hoax
sexcwog2010 10 months ago
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This well spoken liar and manipulator should be in jail for crimes against humanity.
widebody123 11 months ago
al gore has a lot of zombies, sheep and lemmings. Its amazing and sad how stupid people are...
themlmrockstar 1 year ago
I love the part where the interviewer, Lefty ABC 'journalist' Fran Kelly. after questioning Monckton's qualifications ("no peer-reviewed work"), responds to his point about the IPCC ignoring the Medieval Warm Period with. "well, i'm not able to debate the science with you" - or words to that effect.
Baskerville22 1 year ago
Long live the truth..... well done Christopher
kobi4u 1 year ago
HELP MOTHER NATURE FOR BETTER CLIMATE
Use mighty power of nature
In the northwestern Australia, we have huge tides,
huge deserts, huge evaporation and huge dry rivers and lakes.
Huge 12m tidal erosion can revive old dry paleo dormant once mighty rivers, creeks and lakes,
desalinate the country and change deserts to rain forests to provide more rain across Australia
World population is growing rapidly and we need more energy, food, land and water.
see: Mitic CLIMATE ENGINEERING
33noa33 1 year ago
@33noa33 how old are you?
duffman580 1 year ago
he shut her down bigtime!
theScienceOfFear2012 1 year ago 2
The icecaps are melting....OH NOO...those damn SUV's are killing our planet! Uhhh...wait, the icecaps on Mars are melting as well, and the last time I checked, there weren't any gas stations there yet. Which leave only one plainly obvious explanation. Look up in the sky on a cloudless day and feel the heat coming off that fireball that lights everything up. What are we going to do, tax the cosmos for generating too much heat??
headcase01 1 year ago
who pays? who pays? HAha! lol!! Keep speaking the truth on climate change Monckton!!
Oneaudience 1 year ago
the medieval warming period wasn't even close to what's going on today
thebutler89 1 year ago
Yeh it was much hotter....
sashamcclare 1 year ago
@thebutler89 IM SORRY! WHAT?
mlm82 1 year ago
@thebutler89
You were there, were you?
jonohx 7 months ago
Lord Christopher Monckton is backed by fact not fiction, rest easy people and do your own research, mad made global warming is a SCAM, it's just a grab for cash and power, ignore the alarmist bed wetters and go have a great life :)
utesonline 1 year ago 6
@utesonline He is backed by quotemining and misunderstanding sources, a poor understanding of climate science, and having no scientific credentials whatsoever. The difference between climatologists and this guy is that they actually know what they are talking about!
TheGamanic 6 months ago
@TheGamanic Monckton does no quotemining, much to your chagrin. He has excellent background in science. He does laugh at the obsession with "experts" telling the rest of us how to live. Pay attention, no one has ever debated him and rebutted what he says. This ordinary man ( that must bother you) speaks for the rest of us and the bothers you. Monckton speaks his mind and no one, esp algore, will face him on the facts.
aquartlow 4 months ago
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@aquartlow "Monckton does no quotemining, much to your chagrin"- He has been caught out many times doing it, just look at this link /watch?v=C3giRaGNTMA&feature=channel_video_title
"He has excellent background in science"- Despite having no formal qualifications in the subject nor having ever published in a respectable peer-reviewed journal. Plus he is denounced by those in the scientific field as a loon.
TheGamanic 4 months ago
@aquartlow "He does laugh at the obsession with "experts" telling the rest of us how to live"- If by "experts" you mean "climatologists" then they don't actually say anything about how people should live. They only give facts about climate i.e. increased carbon emissions means more warming. It is upto governments or the people to decide how to act upon that information
"Pay attention, no one has ever debated him and rebutted what he says"- Wrong again. Type in "tim lambert monkcton" in youtube
TheGamanic 4 months ago
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@TheGamanic "Pay attention, no one has ever debated him and rebutted what he says"- Wrong again. Type in "tim lambert monkcton" in youtube"
LOL............put that crack pipe down mate. I watched that before and Monckton destroyed Lambert. Utterly destroyed him. You warming fanatics will soon begin bombing pizza parlors and pubs. That is what fascists do when they are desperate.
You are desperate squared.
aquartlow 4 months ago
@TheGamanic " Forbes magazine: “Three themes are emerging from the newly released emails: (1) prominent scientists central to the global warming debate are taking measures to conceal rather than disseminate underlying data and discussions; (2) these scientists view global warming as a political ’cause’ rather than a balanced scientific inquiry and (3) many of these scientists frankly admit to each other that much of the science is weak and dependent on deliberate manipulation of facts and data.”
aquartlow 2 months ago
@aquartlow Furthermore how could ever describe someone who is a "Lord" as an "ordinary man"?
TheGamanic 4 months ago
@TheGamanic
He calls himself what he wants to. I couldn't care less. We Americans have Constitutional proscriptions against heraldry. He eats, defacates, sleeps and eventually will die. This makes him ordinary.
aquartlow 4 months ago
@aquartlow Since every human fits your criteria of "normal", no human must therefore be extraordinary?
TheGamanic 4 months ago
@TheGamanic
Climategate 2.0
aquartlow 2 months ago
@aquartlow More "Manufactured Crisis by Scientifically Ignorant Conspiracy Theories" 2.0. Talk about clutching at straws..
TheGamanic 2 months ago
@TheGamanic Let's destroy all our emails and records. Cool. And FOIA? That only applies to Conservatives. We liberals operate by our own rules.
Climategate 2.0 has you terrified. You cannot stop it.
aquartlow 2 months ago
@aquartlow I highly doubt that anyone involved in climate science is "running scared" from the supposed "Climategate 2.0" (when there wasn't even a first one). Furthermore why do you suppose that liberals are the ones that support climate science; it is a scientific issue, not a political one, hence anyone should, if their political beliefs are rational, base their views on scientific evidence not dogma. Surely you do that?
TheGamanic 2 months ago 2
@TheGamanic "it is a scientific issue, not a political one, hence anyone should, if their political beliefs are rational, base their views on scientific evidence not dogma. Surely you do that?"
I totally disagree. I am not trying to be disagreeable. It has always been political and NEVER seriously scientific.
Step back and look at the entire Earth-as-Mother movement. It's natural home is not the Conservative world but the leftwing world. Look at the membership in toto. Watermelon.
aquartlow 2 months ago
@TheGamanic
Solyndra
Siga Technologies
Brightsource
Check these out and get back with me re the "is is a scientific issue, not a political one" thing.
Peace
aquartlow 2 months ago
@TheGamanic Christine Stewart, Canadian Minister of the Environment: "No matter if the science of global warming is all phony... climate change [provides] the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world."
aquartlow 1 month ago
@aquartlow Have you got an edition of the speech in full without context conveniently hidden?
TheGamanic 1 month ago
@TheGamanic
I can help. I can conveniently tell you to read the words C. Stewart uttered and you can figure them out yourself context or no contest. The words " No matter if the science of global warming is all phony" confuses you?
aquartlow 1 month ago
@aquartlow Nice try, but only an idiot would accept anything less than a full script of the speech to base their opinion on. I highly doubt that you have read or heard the speech in its entirety..
TheGamanic 1 month ago
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@TheGamanic Solyndra
Siga Technologies
Brightsource
Check these out and get back with me re the "is is a scientific issue, not a political one" thing.
Peace
I am waiting.
aquartlow 1 month ago
Anyone that thinks this world government is rubbish is an ignorant moron with the intelligence of a grasshopper including this journalists moron stooge, go read the draft you sellouts. No Brain no Gain.
Copenhagen was a global government treaty that would have dissolved our constitution under the disguise of a climate change agreement all based of fraudulent science and its lame journalists like this that doesnt cover the truth should be held for incompetence or treason for not doing her job
chotaboy66 2 years ago
in the last 30 years we could have had something to do with global warming
he says .
What a wanker hundreds of years of stripping the trees [CO2 capture] and the burning of those trees [CO2 release]burning oil and coal would have nothing to do with it.
australianews 2 years ago
Watch the videos, he tells you. Its not just 1 piece of information is a whole array of different information on different subjects leading to the bigger picture.
Check out any of his full lectures.
beasty1987 2 years ago
Biggest hoodwink in History. My God he's right & as much as I hate to hear myself admit it the Man has a valid point. I was a Green Voter and now an ex Al Gore fanatic. Gore is making millions and won't debate anyone what a fake! Thankfully I was saved by our democracy and the right to hear both sides of the argument. Remember the science was supposed to be beyond debate then we find out at least 9 of the far fetched claims are wrong! Michael Crichtons State of Fear sums it all up. Hoodwink!
Ctemple2012 2 years ago
This 'world government' stuff is rubbish. You only have to begin questioning the logistics, the politics and the economics. The man's a nutter.
GabrielNoWings 2 years ago
Do you know anything?
beasty1987 2 years ago
Ah. Who knows what, and how much, and if it means anything at all? However, it does help to apply a little thought to things sometimes.
GabrielNoWings 2 years ago
so the main leaders already anouncing world government means nothing? Monckton is incredibly well informed and specific and does his own research.
He is by no means "a nutter"
beasty1987 2 years ago
Which 'world leaders'? When? What did 'they' say? Nothing 'Lord' Monckton said in that video was specific. it was all generalisations with no facts to back it up. No-one who is 'incredibly well-informed' prattles on like that without backing it up with evidence and facts, which he clearly does not have because they do not exist. Idiots like this parade the world like the emperor who has no clothes. I'm all for exposing corruption but Lord Monckton and his ilk are no help at all.
GabrielNoWings 2 years ago
Erm i don't know maybe Banki Moon, Herman Van Rompuy, Gordon Brown, Obama.
And he has factual data you idiot. Check his stuff. I did.
You're so stupid it's actually quite incredible..
Have you only just joined this debate? you have alot of catching up to do...
beasty1987 2 years ago
I'm quite prepared to be wrong. Point me to the evidence and I'll read up on it. I'm aware this kind of debate has been going on for many years; it's in the same stable as '12 people rule the world' and the 'great Jewish conspiracy'. Please show me where I can check your (or Monckton's) facts.
GabrielNoWings 2 years ago
I used to be a strong supporter of the Global Climate Change theory, like you; however, after seeing Lord Moncktons presentations I am a proud climate change denier. Just watch and I swear you will change your opinion, you seem reasonable. Any presentation is good but the one I like the most is the interview by Michael Coren (I think I spelled it correctly).
NodeRanvier 2 years ago
Have you ever gone to a science meeting
that would challenge Lord Moncktons presentations .
Was there any other view at his presentations? of course not .
He and all sceptics avoid questions and have been caught many times telling straight out lies.
australianews 2 years ago
No science meetings but I am going to school for Biotechnology. nvironmental Science being one of the classes I have to take, we are religiously fed the Anthropogenic Climate Change theory. What I'm saying is that I've heard almost every scientific argument out there for AGW and Lord Monckton debunks them all.
NodeRanvier 2 years ago
Which lies exactly is Lord Monckton telling us? You may be right, if so I'll check up on them.
NodeRanvier 2 years ago
@australianews he is trying to create a debate. He is not the one who doesn't want to defend his views.
mlm82 1 year ago
@mlm82 trying to create a debate in which he gos around spreading BS.
He is not a scientist neither is most other sceptics.
Andrew Bolt for an example was on tv last night and says i am not a sceptic
he just dosent believe that man is the cause.
But then he starts talking about the period of cooling that the world has gone through.
He Dosent know where he stands.
australianews 1 year ago
@mlm82 Andrew Bolt dosent mention that the global ocean temps in the last year
maybe classed as the hottest on records.
He dosent mention that science predicted longer droughts 'More rain in the dryer
states 'less rain in the wetter states all of which is happening right now.
Everything science said would happen in australia because of global warming
is happening and they predicted all this with CO2 computer models.
australianews 1 year ago
@australianews Im sorry. I support monkton in some of his statements regarding HOW science should be done. And that IPCC have showed poor judgement on following this. I hope they do a proper investigation, so that real science can be done. I dont think IPCC is 100% unbiased. What is the result of all this scare, is the cap-n-trade policy which will not work and does more harm than good. Monckton is not a scientist, but political policies I'm pretty sure he knows.
mlm82 1 year ago
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@NodeRanvier
Here's a GREAT piece on Lord Monckton.
Google Monckton Scotsman and click on the first item. Read the whole article--it isn't long.
I don't know why the mainstream media doesn't pay more attention to this man.
lonahouse 1 year ago
This 'world government' stuff is rubbish.
Spot on all these fools believeing in a EX journalist .
A conservative EX journalist i should say.
There will be no forceing anything on anyone if nations dont want to do anything on GW they dont have to.
But the poor nations sign up because there was MONEY on offer.
australianews 2 years ago
Well, I didn't want to bring politics into it - his views are suspect enough as it is - but one of the reports quoted him saying a 'communist world government', which suggests a possible political agenda behind his anti-climate-change stance, quite apart from his indirect link with the oil industry. None of this can be easily proved. Best just to steer clear of him.
GabrielNoWings 2 years ago
BaaaaarrrrrBa Tony Barba.
kickatoe 2 years ago
"vociferous" !!!!!
And leftist will say that ABC is objective after that !
exemple55555 2 years ago
Thanks for posting, power to that man's elbow. As he always suggests look up the information yourself - GRIP, Uni at Minnesota for sea ice etc. Good man!
jesuispret69 2 years ago
kickatoe
what a fuckin statement !
go and price youself a solar panel garden 6m x 5m the size of some whole gardens
hope you get enough sunlight every day to charge your car
and if you want to charge yours over night they dont make lunar panel gardens
and for all you smart arses yes she could charge a spare battery but probably need to get someone to change it
i live in scotland with an average of 22 days sun filled a year .SOLAR PANELS
theebeano 2 years ago
Climate Change skeptic is a misnomer, he's a skeptic of the theory pushed by the likes of Al Gore and Pichuari.
By claiming he's a "climate change skeptic" they're making an assertion that he denies climate change within nature, like a knuckle-dragging troglodyte. Talk about spin and propaganda.
CosmicCannonBall 2 years ago
I have been a huge fan of Radio National for as long as I can remember. I never even heard this interview as I can no longer stomach the VERY left bias of the ABC. It is sickening that this publically funded media outlet would become so unpalatable. Fran, you are either a socialist or a prostitute. Don't lie and say you believe in democracy. If you did, you would interview objectively.
lmtlsss 2 years ago
Well what about charging your car up on solar panels,it would be free an it wouldn't take long to pay off your solar panels free power for your car an house an oil is not going to last for ever so we are going to have to change,an we the people will be the RICHER.
kickatoe 2 years ago
Do you have any Idea about how much solar panels cost?
kcj1993 2 years ago
I must admit I was one of those angry Greenies foaming at the mouth ready to lynch any Denier from the H- Bridge then one day I sat down and let them have a say. I hated every min of it but now I understand we are being lied to by IPCC. Their true agenda is all about the UN's control and domination of the World through a 'One World Gov' not to save the Earth. They use fear to make us yield to their hidden agenda Gore is the front man
I've always been against pollution & the rape of the Earth.
Ctemple2012 2 years ago
heres another simple fact
if everyone in every country switched to electric cars not one country would have the ability to produce enough electricity charge the fuckin batteries. well they could by doubling the amount of power stations. that makes sense
theebeano 2 years ago
@Ctemple2012 Actually the real front men are Maurice Strong and Mikhail Gorbachev, google GCI - Green Cross International
stopchemtrails 2 years ago
He has some very good points ......!
aussieoioi1 2 years ago
An monckton should be fined for talking shit.
kickatoe 2 years ago
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Please someone get him back in is cell and on his medication, this day release program has to be reviewed.
1BustedMyth 2 years ago
Paper after paper after paper,what paper,wheres the paper Monckton,i cant fined the paper????or did you mean toilet paper.
kickatoe 2 years ago
maybe you cant FIND those papers because you cant spell, you idiot.......FIND write it out 100 times then go to the UN internet site .
aussieoioi1 2 years ago
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aussieoioi1 2 years ago
Whats find or fined got to do with this dick head monckton,this person is a spinmaster an a politician not a scientist just a paid spinmaster for big business.
kickatoe 2 years ago
He is not paid for by big business.
kcj1993 2 years ago
and you look like a pleb in front of a screen, why don't you make a comment on what he's saying rather than his appearance?
blacktop21 2 years ago
fran you dimwitted labour voter
grant2225 2 years ago
While your witty comment is simply astounding!
chuiechuie 2 years ago
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VERY easy:
Those "scientist" who stand in denial of global warming have FAILED in the last 15 years(!) to produce A SINGLE(!!!), peer-reviewed scientific journal article that challenges the theory and -evidence- of human-induced climate change.
-case closed-
kickatoe 2 years ago
@bobhawks - fyi - you are in the minority! you and your bedwetter mates can now gather and cry together as your fascist utopia crumbles down around you, it is your ignorance and belligerence that always presents you with poop on your face. Lies, Fraud and Treason, take your pick you will be trailed for all three.
aGlobalWarmingHOAX 2 years ago
Fran Kelly gets pwnned! LOL
MaxSammy 2 years ago 2
Much better than what you could ever achieve. And what do you expect? Of course Monckton is going to look like he's on top; as she admits, she is not a climate expert and is at an obvious disadvantage because of it. Also, she put up a much better fight than SMH's environmental editor.
chuiechuie 2 years ago
When sovereignty dies, so will many humans. Like monopolies in commerce, monopolies in governance create the same problems; Tyranny.
The beauty of our world is Choice. Under one government, there Is No Choice.
QuiksiIver 2 years ago
Thank god there are people like him fighting against this tyranny.
Imposing a "carbon tax" for an IMF slush fund(which it doesn't promise what it will do with your money) is criminal and kills sovereignty
QuiksiIver 2 years ago
I can understand why Al Gore doesn't want to face this man in debate. Smack down at 3:37.
courtesyZone 2 years ago 4
congrtulations!! yours must be the most intelligent comment i've obsreved all week.
and in case youdidn't notice, i'm being sarcastic.
globalnomad62 2 years ago
You're an idiot. Man made global warming is a farce. Do some research of your own before you talk dick head.
82markyboy 2 years ago
Monckton answered the questions very well, and honestly as always.
I couldn't help but look at him and think of stewie from family guy. Big eyes, small lips.
Reclaim19 2 years ago 4
Australia may have just avoided this big fat global scam at the eleventh hour - but it's not over yet - thanks to UN Rudd's carbon obsession - we still all need to be vigilant and let friends, family, clients and co workers know about how manipulated this warming science is.
calmaconnection 2 years ago 8
@calmaconnection
Watch the film "Endgame" online by Alex Jones. Study the New World Order, CFR, Bilderberg Group etc. From there comes Rudds obesession, or why. Peace
cabgt 2 years ago
Nick please prove that monckton is a liar.
Please also prove that you have always told the truth and that is why we should believe you.
mostlytrouble 2 years ago 8
@mostlytrouble Monkton cliams he was a advisor to PM M Thatcher-That is a lie.
franks2732 7 months ago
He suffers from a condition called Graves disease.
He is on medication and has suffered from it for years. Very unfortunate.
mostlytrouble 2 years ago 2
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What's with his frog eyes.
Borridd 2 years ago
Monckton is brilliant!!! notice the media attack the man not
the content......the beautiful thing is the all knowing all powerful collegia can't see the trainwreck coming, the one
called the US Dollar..............lllllllllllllllllllolllllllllllllllllllll
blokeatone 2 years ago 16
@blokeatone They DO attack the man! "He's upper class." (well lucky him!). "He's got bulging eyes." (He has hyperthyroid disease.) "He's arrogant!" (No, he's sincere in his views and states them unequivocally) "He thinks he's above the rest of us." (No, he's concerned about the wider ramifications for humanity in general.) The politics of envy are already obvious in the climate change debate - in fact, I'd go so far as to say that's what it's mostly about...
mlawren7 7 months ago
@mlawren7 He is a lying fucking bigoted fuckhead. He presents nothing but lies and has no regard for anyone besides his backhanders from the energy industry
franks2732 7 months ago
@mlawren7 Do you know he still claims he was a senior advisor to Margaret Thatcher. Which is a bald faced lie, would you like to read how he continues to quote mine and takes data out of context, uses peoples published work without their consent. the only thing Lord Ha Ha can do right is debate, substance and facts are beyond his scope. It's fucking imbeciles like you who have taken this nation back to Menzies and he would be too left wing for you. Right wing nut jobs stick together LMFAO
franks2732 7 months ago
What the global warming scaremongers won't tell you is that CO2 was some 20x higher in the Jurassic where life clearly thrived and delicate aragonite corals evolved, WITHOUT a tipping point or runaway greenhouse.
CO2 was not a problem then and it can't be now.
MrOllyK 2 years ago 8
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NickOver9000 2 years ago
@NickOver9000
Your Ad Hominem attacks now on anyone with 'a brain' continues. Is this what they taught you in Change Agent School!?
Climategate and the prevalence of good common sense has blown this monkey scam out of the water. Are you sad that you won't continue getting fraudulent funding for fake projects?!
aGlobalWarmingHOAX 2 years ago 6
Prove that he is a liar...prove he is discredited...prove that catastrophic global warming will be caused greenhouse gases... then we will stop giving you thumbs down.
Dave26851 2 years ago 6
Man made global warming isn't happening. We don't need a world government, and we don't need to pay taxes for making CO2! Fuck you
82markyboy 2 years ago 3
This interviewer obviously did not read that Treaty Draft - which most of us have!
Clearly she did not 'get it' to understand what is really going on and why COP15 failed and that the propaganda does not 'register' with the masses anymore. She should google 'Jo Nova' , she could teach this Fran a thing or two!
FYI - as Kevin Rude has been secretly dabbling in the developmt of that Treaty.. 'Treason' and 'Australian Constitution' should be cross referenced!
It's a conspiracy Fact, not Theory.
aGlobalWarmingHOAX 2 years ago 4
Lord Monckton produces fact upon fact. That all. All verifiable, true, and supported but top scientists. Including Professor Lindsen the top meteorological in the world from MIT.
andyz0007 2 years ago 6
@andyz0007 You can't despute that, and furthermore he continually encourages you to think for yourself and 'do the research' which many of us lay people have done - reading the works of Prof Bob Carter and Lindzen... to educate and arm ourselves with the science and data to back up the facts. We have an awareness of what is really going on.
And not to forget the wisdom of Alan Watt.
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NickOver9000 2 years ago
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There was nothing wrong the presenters' questions. Give her a break. And yes - Lord Monckton is a 1st class debater and more. He really is excellent.
andrewada 2 years ago
Fran lost it, shows herself up as a left socialist lebo looney, unfortunately for her she is a minority and we the majority don't register with her propaganda. At each turn Monckton mowed her down, and when she could not handle it.. she changed focus! We need more Monckton's in Australian politics.
surferpeteinspace 2 years ago 9
I love it, the ABC interviewers can't handle people on their show giving them real information rather than waffling on with meaningless mantra.
Dave26851 2 years ago 11
agree, the ABC met their match, they were too afraid to have him on last week, as that nitwit from UNSW was too scarred to debate Monckton, so this is all they could muster.. the interviewer was grasping at straws!
cowinyourface 2 years ago 5
More people need to learn the truth, when the left eco-fascists who want to govern and dictate my movements and bathroom habits we have a major issue on our hands. Whenever someone like Monckton appears on the scene they are stiff with terror in the influence he has OVER their lies and waffle.
No substance in the left, and no substance in being inhumane.
aGlobalWarmingHOAX 2 years ago 9
@Dave26851 "real information"? explain to me the real information in falling out of this man. he has been shown time and again to be a fraud.
batteries76 1 year ago
Very well handled...
Dave26851 2 years ago 7
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NickOver9000 2 years ago
@NickOver9000
your ad hominem attack if trade mark of those who have no position, proof, power.
surferpeteinspace 2 years ago 4
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What a first class goose.
bigants 2 years ago