fahritur No it's not MY propaganda. Authors of ottoman dictionaries they write that if you want to read the ottoman language you must know arabic and persian words.
The most turkic words added after the reform of Mustafa Kemal did or am I wrong?
The abolishment of the arabic alphabet with the latin for sure changed the language.
It's obvious and I know some examples of karamanlidika an ottoman idiom of the greeks in Capadocia wich writen in greek alphabet, they differ from modern turkish.
@makis15n Look you dont know turkish, you dont know ottoman turkish. I know Both. As I said three times before: Yes, there are many arabic and persian vocabulary in Ottoman turkish. Yes, you need to know these words if you want to read goverment documents from the past. BUT, the majority of vocabulary is still turkish.
And (for the 100. time) Ottoman turkish was not the language spoken by the general public. Turks spoke a pure turkish, like the language you find in Yunus Emre poetry.
As you know the Mustafa Kemal took the name "Ataturk" but in fact how much turk he was as blood, was 0% turk was half Albanian and half Jew. The names and the proclamations don't proove any truth. The moto of the Turkey is "NE MUTLU TURKUM DIYENE" but from whom a non turk in fact. As you know even the ottoman sultans were more greek in their origin than turks. The mother of fatih was greek and many others sultans had granmothers mothers and wives greek, so how much turks were they?
@makis15n Dude, why do you care about blood so much? Does it make you a better person. Did you also check the DNA of greek people? (If you did, you would be surprized). What is your proof that Atatürk had Albanian or Jew blood? And what if he had? What is so wrong about it? Do you even know what that motto means? It means you should be happy if you feel you are a part of this nation. It means it doesnt matter what your blood is... It matters how you feel. Ironic, ha? :-)
@fahritur And about the Ottoman Dynasty... Yes they married byzantian and other princesses. But if you would know anything on history, you would know that this was very normal. It was very common to marry other countries princesses, to gain a right to their throne, to make peace with them or to gain other strategic advantages. Just check european history and you will find many marriages between english, german or french prince and princesses. -Again you are blinded with hate and racism
@fahritur Of course but many sultans took simple girls for example from the Cyclades Islands daughters of greek orthodox priests, and that is totally different, to take a princess is logical but simple girls!
@makis15n No, not many sultans, just a few married simple girls. So whats wrong about it? Like Suleyman the Magnificent and Hürrem Sultan (Roxelana). Do you know about the love poets they have written to each other? All you see is races. But love has no race. And it does not know royalty.
@fahritur In wikipedia in "greek moslems" there are not few but a lot, so I idn't wrote the article about greek moslems, You can read it any time you like.
@fahritur Yes if you find the DNA of Greeks and other nation in Europe and Middle East you will see why. I said about DNA to proove what I'm writing. Because in Turkey the state history says that today Turks are all of tukic origin and this is totally fake and wrong. What you have is the continuation of what was before all centuries.
Yes the most of todays turks have nothing common with central asian peoples, instead you have very much common with us in Greece.
@fahritur And YES the DNA of Greeks has prooven scientifically that our origin is local and ancient, we are Greeks almost 100% together with the Armenians they are also ancient people. And many people in Turkey have greek origin too, the genuine turks are a very very small minority 3,4% only. Turkish scientists Atasoy, Cinioglu made a research from the university of Istanbul, ask them if you don't believe what I.m saying.
At last I believe that A2Kaid is absolutely correct the caliphate never had the cresent moon as emblem never because they knew that was a symbol of the capital of a christian empire, the East Roman Empire late given the name Byzantine.
The caliphate came many times in war with the East Roman Empire for centuries you think that they don't knew the symbols of them. Why caliphate don't adopted earlier the cresent moon?
Even Mohammad believed in crescent moon god and the star,and when he came to Mekka he used the flag with those symbols.And something else,Mohammad was a white man from a family traders but not arabic race,and that is why islamics do not allow to show his face,cause he was white.I do believe in God but never in any religion,because they are all lies in there.
@aryanalban18 Where do you get your information from? Do you even know anything about islam? Beliving in a crescent moon god and the star? You really are joke dude.
And Muhammed was arabic. His family line is well recorded, just do some research man. And of course he was white, not black. But that doesn't matter anyway, because he himself made it clear that there is no difference between any race. Its not a shame to be white or black. So I dont even see a reason to argue on that.
The Cresant moon and star date back to the cradle of civilization, star represents the male aspect and the moon the female aspect and the star in the moon symbolizes birth, It was Nimrod who married his mother semiramis who he impregnated, Nimrod died semiramis gave birth to Tammuz who she said was Nimrod reborn, this is the trinity that all pagan religions have incommen so in reality their is but one religion in many forms and the Pope is the pontifex of it, Islam is another tool used by Rome
I want to reiterate, some of the information in this documentary is incorrect i.e. some of the dates and the false statement that the Ottoman Empire adopted the Constantinople city flag. Please read the Annotations I have made which correct the mistakes. Of course these mistakes were unintentional.
KONSTANTINIYE = CITY OF CONSTANTINE = CONSTANTINOUPOLIS
Κ Ω Ν Σ Τ Α Ν Τ Ι Ν Ο Υ Π Ο Λ Ι Σ
ANADOLU = EAST = (GRΕΕΚ) ANATOLE, ΑΝΑΤΟΛΗ
Just read if you dare an ottoman dictionary and then tell how many turkic words you can find and how many arabic and iranian. So stop these bullshits about your civilisation and your language. All Your many cities have Greek names even Erzerum is iranian and means Erze=earth rum=roman Erserum=Land of Romans (greek romans).
@makis15n So, you think it was hard for the Ottomans to change names into turkish? No, the fact is, they didn't care. They had no problem with persian, greek, byzantian, kurdish, armenian names or any other language. Changing names into turkish only occured recently by nationalist influence from the west. And Ottoman turkish has many arabic and persian (fars) words, but the majority of the language and the structure is still turkic. (By the way, anatolia was called Rumeli = Roman land)
@fahritur Thank You, for your way of writing, I'll continue. How many people in Turkey today they feel turks? The research of the dna (university of Istanbul) shown that the turkic haplogroups of male dna in Turkey is only 3,4% this small part is higher than the rest wich is still what was from the ancient times of greek and mixed anatolian greek.
Not inluded the kurds but the so called turks. Turks made you the religion first and then language.
Most of your nation are not turkish, Azeris and Turkmens are Iranians, and anatolian turks are Greek and Asian Minor nations, the central Asian "turks" are a mixture of tocharians other local nations and Mongolians, as your "turkic" language comes from mongolian language, the only common you have is the so called turkic languages and of course religion.
Nothing more, even the capital of ottomans were callen til early 20th century not Istanbul but KONSTANTINIYE.
The "Turks" always were thieves their "culture" and "civilisation" were a mixture of Iranian Arabic and then Byzantine art. And in language the Ottoman language was more Iranian and Arabic and less "turkic" Mustafa Kemal "Ataturk" a Hebrew albanian ottoman, made the language turkish in 20th century. So turks stop saying all these bullshit about your nation and your race.
@makis15n First of all, the Ottomans did not have a nationalist idealogy. They did not see themselves as a turcic empire. They may have been many things, but they were not racists. So it was no problem for them to adopt different cultures or languages. They did not try to assimilate those elements but rather coexisted with them and integrated them to their way of life. How one can see that as a theft, I dont know. Must be the "hate" speaking.
@fahritur If my ancestors were moslems then I would be today turk as you say you are.
And if your ancestors kept the christian faith that means their national identity as Anatolian rums today you would be in Greece as greek, that's the point.
You know about the coin of Byzantium city which has the cresent moon with a star and writes ΒΥΖΑΝΤΙΩΝ = OF BYZANTINES = BIZANSLILARIN.
Before seldjuks and ottomans Asia Minor had big cities and a high civilisation and that was Greek, that's the truth.
@fahritur If my ancestors were moslems then I would be today turk as you say you are.
And if your ancestors kept the christian faith that means their national identity as Anatolian rums today you would be in Greece as greek, that's the point.
You know about the coin of Byzantium city which has the cresent moon with a star and writes ΒΥΖΑΝΤΙΩΝ = OF BYZANTINES = BIZANSLILARIN.
Before seldjuks and ottomans Asia Minor had big cities and a high civilisation and that was Greek, that's the truth.
@fahritur Look when you take the art the architecture the music even some how the way of life the ethics, and the cities of an other civilisation and tell to others that all this are yours! How can you describe this act can you give a different name. Today in Turkey they say even the name of Anatolia is Greek (Anadolu = ΑΝΑΤΟΛΗ) in greek that means EAST. The manes of most of your cities are greek YES or NOT?
Your major mosques in Turkey are replicas mainly of Hagia Sophia?
@makis15n So the Greeks stole from Egypt, the Romans stole from Greece, the Europeans stole from Rome... and so on? We must be all thieves then :-)
Look friend, there is no difference between the Roman empire and the Ottoman empire. Just like the Roman empire, the Ottoman empire was formed on many cultures and influenced many others. It conquered lands and ruled many nations. If that makes you hate the turks or italians, so be it. But dont let your hate blind you.
@makis15n As I said, the fact that ottoman turks did not change the original names, shows that they had no superiority complex.They did not hate other cultures. At least not enough to wipe their traces, which is actually very common in history. I can give you many other examples of names in Turkey that have greek, armenian, persian, arabic or kurdish origins. But think for a moment. Who are the first owners of these lands? Non of them. There were always others before them. Think about England
"Devotion to Hecate was especially favored by the Byzantines for her aid in having protected them from the incursions of Philip of Macedon. Her symbols were the crescent and star, and the walls of heAs you see is not my opinion, and Mehmet found that symbol and made it symbol of the Ottoman Empire before 1453 ottomans they didn't had it and the rest of moslems took it after the ottomans, it's so simple. Were is the problem?
@makis15n This is so not right. The crescent moon and star were holy symbols for ancient tengriist Turkic people, long before they had contact with the byzantians. There are 1500 year old coins used by the Göktürks which had crescent moons and stars on it. (Just Google it and you will see pictures.) How do you explain that? And dont think the turks and byzantians were the only ones. It was also the symbol of the Sasanids Empire. And Ottomans used it long before Mehmet II, it was used by Murat I.
@fahritur You still don't answer the cresent moon and star the ottomans took it as their symbol and flag after the conquest of Constantinople, before they didn't have it and as you know the Seldjuks of Rum had as their symbol the other Byzantine symbol the two Head Eagle wich was the symbol of the East Roman Empire, because they felt that they were some how the "islamic" part of the East Roman Empire. But the arab caliphate NEVER HAD IT, NEVER!
@fahritur Before Turks were the anatolian nations in Asia Minor most of them had pelasgian origin like the greek nation has pelasgian origin too, together with the greek cities of Asia Minor. Then were the Hellenistic states after them the Roman Empire but this part was always greek speaking and not latin. Then was the East Roman Empire the greek speaking part of Empire. Centuries later came for the first time the seldjuks and more later a part of them formated the ottomans.
@fahritur You are saying that the ottomans didn't change the names. You want to know why it's simple greek speaking christians were till 1922, and the ottomans in fact were islamized greek speaking people, first took the religion and then the language.
So when you speak about turkic DNA you are wrong and the sciense proove that now days. You are moslem OK you are turkish speaking OK.
But you don't have turkic origin the 3,4% central asian DNA don't make you brothers of central asians.
@makis15n So the turks are actually greeks now? :) This is funny.Than tell me why do you hate Ottomans so much, if they are just greeks?
Ofcourse the fact is not as simple as you want to belive. You want see everything white&black, greek or not greek. Thats your way of thinking. I dont care about ethnicity. Nor did the Ottomans. And when it comes to language, TURKİSH was the most common language in Ottoman lands. Dont try to manipulate the truth. People can check it out anyway.
@fahritur NO the turkish language wasn't the most common language but the opposite was greek armenian kurdish slavic arabic and last was ottoman a language closer to persian and arabic different from todays turkish, and remember this the diplomatic language of the Ottoman Empire was also Greek! I don't hate ottomans as you said with the ottomans greeks lived for centuries (difficult YES but they lived) the Young Turks made all the distruction.
@makis15n I agree that the Young Turks did many wrong politics. They were influenced by western nationalism. But you are wrong about Ottoman diplomacy. It was turkish and there are thousends of documents as evidence. And Ottoman turkish is mainly turkic and was used by the palace, not the common people. The people were speaking a pure turkish, just like in Yunus Emre's poetry. European merchants called Anatolia "Turkia" because turkish was the main spoken language from the 13. century on.
@makis15n You keep repeating the same propaganda. I have answered all your claims, still you refuse to understand.
Ottoman turkish was used only by the elite, not by the common people in Ottoman times. It had many arabic and persian vocabulary in it, but it was mainly turkish. I know because I actually can READ it. There are hundreds of documents I have read. So dont try to decive people about it. I will not write more on this. I give up, you dont get. You are just uncapable of understanding.
Some greek coins are older than 2300 years and were in use while ancient greeks were holding Afghanistan, Pakistan, Anatolia, Persia, Egypt, ect ... and at theses times as it as been said, there weren't known contacts between greeks and turkic peoples. Today, some afghans make a living by retrieving and selling theses greek coins. Now I would be curious to see a 1500- 2000 years old turkish coin with the crescent and the star associated together as they are on the anciant greek coins. Peace.
"The crescent and moon was a Turkic symbol long before the Turks came in contact with the Eastern Roman Empire."
==== Even if theses symbols would be turkic too, that would also mean that it was a greek symbol long before our greek ancestor came in contact with the turks. For example the coin depicting Alexander the Great entering Babylone in the documentary was found in Afghanistan, an anciant greek province.
) At 3.47 Mujahideen entering the conquered city - true there is arabic scripture on the red flag BUT there is also a crescent / arc ontop of the flag poles.
2) Allah wahdahu la shreek has told us that the sun and the moon are amongst his signs - so whats wrong with using his signs as our emblems?
Of course no such thing is symbolic in Islam as a deity and anyone believing any sign to by a direct representation of Allah wahdahu La shreek is wrong.
[" Verily You Shall Conquer Constantinople. What a wonderful leader would her leader be, and what a wonderful army that army would be!" Prophet Mohammed (PBUH)].It took 900 years to realize this hadees. Ottomans (Sultan Mehmed 2) know Islam better than you, cz they are destined Jannati as confirmed by our Prophet (PBUH).
As for the date "BCE 100-0" that should have been written as "BCE 100-1" years. For you to selectively pick the two errors and extrapolate to discredit my video and to suggest that I'm intentionally lying and distorting I find quite pathetic. Most of the information is correct and the point being made in the video is truthful. The mistakes will be corrected. Though I do appreciate some criticism about my videos.
@JohnTheHutDweller In regards to the image of the "Byzantine coin" I show it's actually a coin from the Roman Empire and I think it's a coin of Roman Emperor Hadrian the coin also shows the name "Hadrian" across the left edge of the coin. I admit that was a mistake to label that specific coin a Byzantine coin, but the other coin which appears green certainly is. To accuse me of lying is a false and unworthy charge when the mistake was unintentional. I will make corrections to the video soon.
this guy show coins from 100BC-0. and claims they are byzantine? First off there was no year 0. And Second the byzantine empire didn't start until AD313
@RawisWargotit Muhammed robbed and plundered all the hindu temples in Arabia and made up a false "new" religion out of it. It's false because many of the ceremonies in Islam are hindu in origin. Even the dates of these ceremonies coincide with hindu holidays.
@RawisWargotit You throw the word "rascists" alot which shows you don't even know what the word means. Anyway, none of what I said so far is fiction. There are dick/vagina idols all over the middle east and even India. One made it to Mecca and sits outside the Kaaba. Muhammed kissed it and all you crazy muslims do so as well. It's funny how 1 billion followers can take a religion seriously that kisses a black cock.
@RawisWargotit The ancient Egyptians did it and now their descendants the muslims are doing it. Google ligam and look at the dick idols of your ancient ancestors.
image is haram, you are the ignorant. the quran never says anything about symbols being haram ONLY images. have you ever thought about this? also our prophet peace be upon him NEVER CARRIED a gun, does that mean all muslim armies should use sword instead?
ALSO the islamic calender follows the MOON and the star on muslims flags have 5 sides. now what are the 5 most important things in islam? its the five pillars
I love Islam..I converted to it after I spent some time to do actual research into the literature and evidence..its amazing, all the misconceptions, things that I thought were part of or about Islam..with some proper research people can discover the great religion of Islam though unfortunately some people only want to listen and read things that support what their minds have already made up without sufficient proof. May God guide them.
it was really nice to read your commment,not just because you converted,which is really amazing and make me happy cause i'm also muslim,but also the fact you are open mind and learned stuff because you wanted to.You should be really proud of yourself cause there is so many people who are scared to learn! :)
so well continue in that way, cause you're in the good way! :D
@saf786syd ''actual research"? LOL! Another fool of the pedophile "prophet". If you did any real research you will find that 1/5 of the Quran is stolen Christian stories from the Aramaic christians. The rest of the stuff such as holy sites and ceremonies are from Hinduism. Muhammad's father's name was Abdullah(slave of Allah). Now how does someone have that name before the birth of Islam?
@rostampedarman Where did I say that scientists love hindus? There maybe so called Christians that abuse children. However, the teachings of Christ doesn't condone it. He even said that if you cause any child to sin then you deserve to have a limestone tied around your neck and thrown into the water.
@rostampedarman The age of consent in Spain is 13. According to Wikipedia, the youngest girl pregnant and with a photo standing pregnant is 5 or 6 years old from South America. Someone told me that even a girl less than a year old has gotten pregnant. I don't know of any documentation to back this up. However, I don't believe that justifies pedophilia which Muhammed apparently was. A child has a right to her childhood and definitely not ready to be an adult.
@RawisWargotit There is approx 1 billion muslims. There are approx 6 billion people on earth. The pope has said that Europe is seeing a rise in paganism. With the age of the internet and social networking and thus many having more avenues of personal expression, religion itself won't have such a powerful effect as it did in the past. The last theocracy I predict will be Iran. Europe gave that up a long time ago.
@rostampedarman I read that Muhammed and his armies would plunder the gold and silver from all the hindu temples in Arabia which would include the Kabbah. In fact there is a video in youtube even explaining that there was more than one Kabbah in past.
@rostampedarman Also, be careful with your statement "religion is a bad joke". It shows you lack intelligence and any sort of sophistication. In other words, you sound like an ignorant buffoon. Many people from all walks of life including scientists have religious views. Somehow you seem to claim to have figured it all out and higher than the rest of humanity. There is a saying, "Those who say they know really don't know and those who say they don't know are really lying".
@rostampedarman No, I'm not a hindu. However, I find many so called Atheist and Agnostics believing in Hinduism or Buddhism. They like all that reincarnation and cycling upward and evolving to a higher state of being blah, blah, blah. Buddhism for example is inherently atheistic. Buddhists unlike Hindus don't believe in any deity. According to them you control your eternal afterlife state. Scientology is just crack psychology mixed with science fiction stories and humanistic self worship.
@Germany4everable Are you a non muslim who is being sarcastic? Non muslim people will regularly say "peace be upon him" after mentioning Muhammed as a form of mockery and false imitation. That's why as a non muslim I don't say that. Only real muslims can say such expressions with honesty.
@rostampedarman The moon/star is the crown of Shiva. Pictures of Shiva have the symbol. The Kabbah is an ancient hindu temple. The black stone is a phallus idol of Shiva.
The moon and star are the crown of Shiva. Picture of Shiva have a moon and star above her/him. The moon symbolizes time. Shiva is the master of time. Furthermore, the Kabbah, black stone are all Hindu and origin. The Hindu dynasties were all lunar dynasties, "Vikramahadita(hindu king", "Om(sacred hindu name)" are written inside the walls of the Kabbah.
@rostampedarman "Those who disbelieve in Our Signs, We shall soon cause them to enter Fire. As often as their skins are burnt up, WE shall give them in exchange other skins that they may continue to taste the punishment. Surely, ALLAH is Mighty and Wise." (4:56)
Islam is an evil cult of plunder - kind of cultural cancer that invades other cultures stealing & claiming as its own what it can utilise destroying what it cannot use or does not understand.
Thus islam moves from culture to culture creating nothing of its own but backwardness & ignorance in its quest for world domination.
Islam cannot be tolerated in the civilised world - it must be destroyed before it destroys us & plunges the world into a new dark age.
if a star is really is the symbol that represent Islam, what does it make the United state of America? there are lot of stars on that flag. i dont really see people talk about here.;)
In my opinion every pagan symbol is forbidden in Islam. The things we are facing now are just innovations, and remember what Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said about the innovation. qulu bid'atin dholala wa qulu dholaatin fi nar ( every innovation leads to misguidance and every misguidance leads to fire )
@BooYo1990 It’s so obvious that all the truth in the world is contained in the Koran! It’s the first book in Arabic and the last word of Allah. It’s a lot of hard work memorizing it all, but I’m persevering because I know that when I’m done I will know everything. Those damn ungrateful scientists who stole all their ideas from Mohammed. I'm into the slaving thing, and FGM and child rape. Where we see unbelievers’ abundance we will create famine. Allahu Akbar.
@DeathKnightPrime You just can't help yourself with all your curses and calling your betters 'kaffirs'. I have said nothing 'foul mouthed' nor even considered cursing you, what was it 'may your eyes never sleep'. Oh stop it and look at yourself the the mirror. Mockery is the very least you can expect.
Saying that my betters are kafirs sounds like a curse. So you think u havent said anything foul mouthed???? Oh the hypocrites never fail to amuse me! Read ur first post and then talk. Also read ur last statement of your previous comment. As for ur eyes never sleeping, it means u will not sleep in peace. Why dont u look urself in the mirror. Perhaps u will be amused.
@BooYo1990 And into the fire shall Islam go in the End of Times for it is an abomination unto God (not Allah for that is a pagan god which Arabic History has recorded that was part of the pagans who worshipped the Allah, the moon god).
The moon is sitting directly over my head and lights my path wherever I go just like the Sun. Dawn truly does provide light. I need NASA or a scientist or some other holy person to confirm this.
@wtfman591 if someone fools around with our religeon i show no mercy if someone is kind... ill be rigteous towards him or her... what do you expect me to introduce to you? you want to know the truth??? no i dont think so i dont think you care about the truth if so what a bad way of introducing yourself ;)
It also has nothing to do with Arthemis (who is symbolized with crescent just because it looks like a bow.. she is an archer you know).
I dont agree that it is haram either. Otherwise all symbols would be haram. It is just a political symbol just like any other flag or flama or coat of arms. Ancient Turks have been using these things widely for communication and identification on the Eurasian steppes, since they were mainly nomadic populations.
It is a Turkish originated political symbol that symbolizes the unity of Islam. It is not a religious symbol. Islam clearly has no holy symbols. If you are in a horror film and you see a demon, do not try to use a crescent to scare him. :)
Famous historian Jean Paul Raux noted in "History of Turks" that the Turkish crescent is a Turkish originated ancient religious symbol that later in time lost its pagan meaning but kept its national meaning. It has nothing to do with "flag of Istanbul"
the information on this video is wrong. there is no proof turks in asia had cresent moon and the star as their symbol, none of their old flags show that. cresent moon and the star is used in middle east and eygpt it was the symbol of baal this pagan deity was worshiped by persians, eyptians, and pagan arabs, he was also worshiped by pagan romans, that is why all of the pagans has his symbol. since muhammed made his tribe kreysh's moon god allah spreem god of the universe, his symbollater on
I don't agree with this video at all. As muslims are explicitly told not to dipict any sort of picture or adopt non of the kafir (unbelievers) signs, it is very unlikely that the ottomans adopted this from the Beyzantine. Pre-islamic arbians used to worship the moon god Al-iha...No matter how hard you try, the evidences won't allow you hide the truth. Allah=moon god.
Well your obviously misinformed nor have you read the description. Nor do you have evidence for this fallacy "Allah=Moon god" which is a lie and propaganda piece that only fools and the ignorant believe.
@A2Kaid Well, I know you guys think your religion is perfect, your history is perfect...just everything about Islam is perfect ! So, every time someone points out something, he is wrong, misinformed or is a liar I don-t think it-s worth arguing with such brain washed mentality.
Why are you so obsessed with Islam. Aren't you an African atheist? You really don't want me or others here to start bashing your incredibly modern and sophisticated Africa.
@A2Kaid ? first, When you upload such video, you should obviously expect PPL who doesn't agree with the idea, so U should be able to answer, debunk , challenge & give evidence in order for them to accept ur claim. no need to make it so persoanal! Your racial prejudice is nothing but a part of your arogance (but I forgive you) second, Here we are talking about a single topic "Crescent Moon " So why would you expect me to point out some wrongs of islam? Stick with the topic !
You should try explaining why the Quran mentions how a baby is developed in a fetus, why the Quran mathematically reveals the speed of light, why Quran talks about the uniqueness of finger tips, and other scientific facts that were unknown to man in the 7th century.
@A2Kaid U could fool some brainwashed muslims but not me.Obviously the Quran has no scientific facts or whatsoever but very recently muslim apologists have started to make the whole Quran look like a science book. It's funny but sad. They take 1 single phrase out of context & insist that it is scientific. All of the claims u mentioned are debunked non of them are true.If the Quran has such scientific facts then how comes the Arabian countries are ridiculously strange to science?
Nothing has been debunked you backwards African maybe if your IQ wasn't 1 standard deviation below the curve you wouldn't make such idiotic claims. It's a fact Qur'an reveals infants are born from a fetus, human have unique finger prints, speed of light, techtonic plates, etc. If you weren't so brainwashed you African by atheist and hate media you would realize that. Arab regimes are the ones holding their people back, the same regimes West has been supporting.
@A2Kaid I guess Nubian you are deceived by the liar and you are kafir?? - perhaps the most proud one...the deceiver the destroyer is reallly against you and is trying to take you to judgment by lying about the way of True Worship.... as taught by Jesus Christ
@A2Kaid I guess Nubian you are deceived by the liar and you are kafir?? - perhaps the most proud one...the deceiver the destroyer is reallly against you and is trying to take you to judgment by lying about the way of True Worship.... as taught by Jesus Christ ...further Mohammeds family were idolaters of many moon god idols and they were all destroyed but one - it sits in Mecca until this day and all worshippers revolve around it?? why is it there?? if forbidden?
@000NubianPrincess000 lol witch evidence your arrogant brains? if you want to read the book of Allah go ahead... it is clear that Allah says himself the one treu creator the same creator of Hz Adem Hz Nuh Hz Ibrahim Hz Ismail Hz Ishak Hz Jakub Hz Lut Hz Hud Hz Suleyman Hz Isa Hz Muhammad peace and blessings be upon them Allah is the creator of all and if you reject go ahead but what your doing is insulting our belief... such a weak thing sheitan always does and uses weak people like you
@turkmuslim4ever For crying at loud nobody is insulting ur belief....By the way which Allah are you talking about? the arab christians use the name Allah to say simply 'god', the sabeans also call their god Allah. The name Allah isn't a personal name or anything it just mean god. There are thausands of gods out there...I don't understand how U brain washed PPL still insist on saying "my god is the only true god!" while there isn't any evidence for the existence of ur gods.
@000NubianPrincess000 let me give you a example if i hit you... do you see the pain? but you know it exists with a certainty right... thats a small meassure to give but we believe with certainty... if you are a good person you will end up being a muslim... but if death comes nothing can save you anymore exept Allah
@turkmuslim4ever Yes, If you hit me I feel the pain, ever heard of the 5 sense organs? feeling pain is perceived by one of my sense organs...the skin.So the existence of pain is unquestionable, my brain perfectly understands whats going on For something to be understood by a human brain, it has to pass at least through one of the 5 sense organs, But in your case which sense of organ do you use to understand your Allah? I guess none !!
You moron, Allah isn't in the eminent domain nor physical realm, hence intangible. You haven't proven anything. Even Science knows it's limit is the eminent domain and physical realm. There is knowledge in the Qur'an that no man could have written. Not to mention the fact that the Earth is in absolute perfect to the cm position to have the perfect climate, weather, axis, distance from sun to support human life on Earth didn't happen by chance.
@000NubianPrincess000 in my case :) one day we all shall die... and we all will be questioned if you dont believe me then wait and see why we muslims call disbelievers blind deaf dumb... and why your hearts are sealed... you dont believe in what i believe so you do what you do and we do what we do and we will not be with the arrogant people
@000NubianPrincess000 what question you arrogant fool... dont you have a soul? if you dont believe in the creator of the worlds why do you worry so much? im telling you your going to go for hell for a eternity unless you become a muslim Allah knows best tho ;) you might be forgiven but i hope not not for kafir/disbeliever like you!
@turkmuslim4ever Why do muslims call everyone "Arrogant"? loool to be very honest, most of the arrogant people I know are muslims...including you. You are so childish and a waste of time! I am done with you
@turkmuslim4ever This type of speech proves where Islam comes from, for this type of words comes from Hell it self and was taught to the false prophet and his false cult of Islam. Muhammads history was a violent one, 27 wars he started, stealing land, raping women and children, forcing people to choose death or Islam. Muhammad chose the black flag which has always been a symbol of evil, used by many witchs, pagans, etc. in their own practices.
@punkin7733 :) what do you know... what does she know... nothing... your people just watch tv go to disco eat pork witch is forbidden in christianity also(hypocrisy) who do you follow you say my religeon is evil? your people are evil man... what do you know about pagans? my prophet and his sahabe fought them... and crushed their man made gods... what do you know about the muslims nothing! you can only talk shit and think your on the right path well to hell with you and dont say a thing about him
Blessings Brethren and Sistren in the name of Yahweh.
The star inside the crescent moon goes back to babylon. The star represents the sun, the reincarnation of king nimrod, lucifer himself. The crescent moon represents the moon, queen semiramis, wife of lucifer. The star going inside the moon is consistent with semiramis's story that her son tammuz was conceived after nimrod's passing by a ray from the sun, nimrod's reincarnated penis. mystery babylon rel?g?on has deceived the whole world.
Greek orthodox churches use the crescent symbol to symbolize victory over the Ottomans, who laid siege to Vienna unsuccessfully. There is also a bread called croissant in France (holy cross) which is crescent-formed. In greek ortodox churches the cross is triumphantly standing on the crescent, like this (---+ (seen sideways here).
Flags which depict a star _within_ the crescent are incorrect. A star within the crescent can _never_ be seen because it would be hidden behind the moon.
True, but if you examine the flags closely the star is positioned outside the circumference of the crescent moon even if it were a full moon. So the star on most flags is located outside the circumference which means it would be visible.
Algeria and Tunisia yes. On some Pakistani flags drawn and made (especially on internet) the star is somewhat inside and or some have stars midway (half of the star inside and half outside if we want to be precise). On Pakistani flags I've seen the star adequately outside just enough to be visible.
@A2Kaid The moon in the flags is probably our own moon even if no craters are drawn to identify it. But which star is it on the flags? The flag of Bethlehem? There are some 3000 stars visible to the naked eye. On the flag of New Zealand there are four stars, the Southern Cross.
One of the problems for some muslims and non-muslims is that they think that the star and crescent represents Islam which is absolutely false.The Prophet Muhammad SAW never used any symbols.Don't believe then please do some real research before making a blind conclusion about Islam.Don't look at so called muslim states to learn about Islam.
please correct yout video it's means the reflection of the moon and stars on the spoiled blood of the Muslim soldiers killed in battles against non-Islamic nations
I red in wikibedia and which I most convinced of that it's to indicate the reflection of moon and stars on the lakes of shohada's(Muslims sacrifying their lifes in battles to open other countries) blood in the days of Islamic fateh.
Why Kazakhstan and Albania are there? There is no Turkestan now by the way.
By position of the Moon and stars early Muslim travelers and soldiers determined their way during expansion of Caliphate. They built mosques with crescents on the minarets with ends pointed towards Zenith over Mecca. That's why most of non-Arab countries with majority Muslim population adopted this symbols. It's significant part of their history, history of islamization.
The crescent moon is the symbol of the Turkic tribes.It has/had nothing to do with Islam.There is some speculation that Turkic tribes adopted much from the Sarmats/Skyths since the their language is loaded with Iranic terms, as such the crescent moon could also represent the Sumerian goddess Nanna.
nice compilation, with recent discoveries its proven that crescent and star is infact a symbolization of Gok Tengrism.
it suits well on Islam anyway
btw, shamanism(tengrism) and paganism may look similar in their ways of worshipping or such but in core they are different drastically.
at basic, in tengrism there was one supreme being, one creator,Gok Tengri. sharing same attributes with God. reincarnation was believed, but in other dimension where Tengri resides.
i would like to add to your research as i have done exstensive research on symbols i have recently found the cresent moon can also be used as a pentagram for satanic worship if you don't believe me you can google santanic and occult signs/symbols i urge people to do there own research we have been put in a box people don't be afraid to break the old mold! Don't be afraid to study! Don't be afraid to question what you are told!
Oh a book, as if man didn't write that too! watch out who your calling ignorant amazing to me how people think they know everything, of course by posting a comment like that you apparently aren't well educated. Thank you for showing your ass. :)
Btw you you can't spell, its Ignorant! Google would of taught u that haha again watch who your calling ignorant
@A2Kaid No dear it is just a figure of speech meaning as if human didn't write that too of couse women can write books we can do anything we put our minds too
I don't want to argue any more, I wish you the best for you and your family.
Thank You.
makis15n 1 week ago
@makis15n Thank you too. Good bye..
fahritur 1 week ago
fahritur No it's not MY propaganda. Authors of ottoman dictionaries they write that if you want to read the ottoman language you must know arabic and persian words.
The most turkic words added after the reform of Mustafa Kemal did or am I wrong?
The abolishment of the arabic alphabet with the latin for sure changed the language.
It's obvious and I know some examples of karamanlidika an ottoman idiom of the greeks in Capadocia wich writen in greek alphabet, they differ from modern turkish.
makis15n 1 week ago
@makis15n Look you dont know turkish, you dont know ottoman turkish. I know Both. As I said three times before: Yes, there are many arabic and persian vocabulary in Ottoman turkish. Yes, you need to know these words if you want to read goverment documents from the past. BUT, the majority of vocabulary is still turkish.
And (for the 100. time) Ottoman turkish was not the language spoken by the general public. Turks spoke a pure turkish, like the language you find in Yunus Emre poetry.
fahritur 1 week ago
As you know the Mustafa Kemal took the name "Ataturk" but in fact how much turk he was as blood, was 0% turk was half Albanian and half Jew. The names and the proclamations don't proove any truth. The moto of the Turkey is "NE MUTLU TURKUM DIYENE" but from whom a non turk in fact. As you know even the ottoman sultans were more greek in their origin than turks. The mother of fatih was greek and many others sultans had granmothers mothers and wives greek, so how much turks were they?
makis15n 1 week ago
@makis15n Dude, why do you care about blood so much? Does it make you a better person. Did you also check the DNA of greek people? (If you did, you would be surprized). What is your proof that Atatürk had Albanian or Jew blood? And what if he had? What is so wrong about it? Do you even know what that motto means? It means you should be happy if you feel you are a part of this nation. It means it doesnt matter what your blood is... It matters how you feel. Ironic, ha? :-)
fahritur 1 week ago
@fahritur And about the Ottoman Dynasty... Yes they married byzantian and other princesses. But if you would know anything on history, you would know that this was very normal. It was very common to marry other countries princesses, to gain a right to their throne, to make peace with them or to gain other strategic advantages. Just check european history and you will find many marriages between english, german or french prince and princesses. -Again you are blinded with hate and racism
fahritur 1 week ago
@fahritur Of course but many sultans took simple girls for example from the Cyclades Islands daughters of greek orthodox priests, and that is totally different, to take a princess is logical but simple girls!
makis15n 1 week ago
@makis15n No, not many sultans, just a few married simple girls. So whats wrong about it? Like Suleyman the Magnificent and Hürrem Sultan (Roxelana). Do you know about the love poets they have written to each other? All you see is races. But love has no race. And it does not know royalty.
fahritur 1 week ago
@fahritur In wikipedia in "greek moslems" there are not few but a lot, so I idn't wrote the article about greek moslems, You can read it any time you like.
makis15n 1 week ago
@makis15n Yes there are thousands of greek muslims in Turkey. Which is just a "few" compared to 75 million.
fahritur 1 week ago
@fahritur Yes if you find the DNA of Greeks and other nation in Europe and Middle East you will see why. I said about DNA to proove what I'm writing. Because in Turkey the state history says that today Turks are all of tukic origin and this is totally fake and wrong. What you have is the continuation of what was before all centuries.
Yes the most of todays turks have nothing common with central asian peoples, instead you have very much common with us in Greece.
makis15n 1 week ago
@fahritur And YES the DNA of Greeks has prooven scientifically that our origin is local and ancient, we are Greeks almost 100% together with the Armenians they are also ancient people. And many people in Turkey have greek origin too, the genuine turks are a very very small minority 3,4% only. Turkish scientists Atasoy, Cinioglu made a research from the university of Istanbul, ask them if you don't believe what I.m saying.
makis15n 1 week ago
At last I believe that A2Kaid is absolutely correct the caliphate never had the cresent moon as emblem never because they knew that was a symbol of the capital of a christian empire, the East Roman Empire late given the name Byzantine.
The caliphate came many times in war with the East Roman Empire for centuries you think that they don't knew the symbols of them. Why caliphate don't adopted earlier the cresent moon?
makis15n 1 week ago
Even Mohammad believed in crescent moon god and the star,and when he came to Mekka he used the flag with those symbols.And something else,Mohammad was a white man from a family traders but not arabic race,and that is why islamics do not allow to show his face,cause he was white.I do believe in God but never in any religion,because they are all lies in there.
aryanalban18 1 month ago
@aryanalban18 Where do you get your information from? Do you even know anything about islam? Beliving in a crescent moon god and the star? You really are joke dude.
And Muhammed was arabic. His family line is well recorded, just do some research man. And of course he was white, not black. But that doesn't matter anyway, because he himself made it clear that there is no difference between any race. Its not a shame to be white or black. So I dont even see a reason to argue on that.
fahritur 2 weeks ago
Turkics at the antient times they lived in mongolia,and the crescent moon and star wasnt their symbol.Hadrianus was Illyrian king.
aryanalban18 1 month ago
The Cresant moon and star date back to the cradle of civilization, star represents the male aspect and the moon the female aspect and the star in the moon symbolizes birth, It was Nimrod who married his mother semiramis who he impregnated, Nimrod died semiramis gave birth to Tammuz who she said was Nimrod reborn, this is the trinity that all pagan religions have incommen so in reality their is but one religion in many forms and the Pope is the pontifex of it, Islam is another tool used by Rome
jermainekg6 1 month ago
I want to reiterate, some of the information in this documentary is incorrect i.e. some of the dates and the false statement that the Ottoman Empire adopted the Constantinople city flag. Please read the Annotations I have made which correct the mistakes. Of course these mistakes were unintentional.
A2Kaid 2 months ago
KONSTANTINIYE = CITY OF CONSTANTINE = CONSTANTINOUPOLIS
Κ Ω Ν Σ Τ Α Ν Τ Ι Ν Ο Υ Π Ο Λ Ι Σ
ANADOLU = EAST = (GRΕΕΚ) ANATOLE, ΑΝΑΤΟΛΗ
Just read if you dare an ottoman dictionary and then tell how many turkic words you can find and how many arabic and iranian. So stop these bullshits about your civilisation and your language. All Your many cities have Greek names even Erzerum is iranian and means Erze=earth rum=roman Erserum=Land of Romans (greek romans).
makis15n 2 months ago
@makis15n So, you think it was hard for the Ottomans to change names into turkish? No, the fact is, they didn't care. They had no problem with persian, greek, byzantian, kurdish, armenian names or any other language. Changing names into turkish only occured recently by nationalist influence from the west. And Ottoman turkish has many arabic and persian (fars) words, but the majority of the language and the structure is still turkic. (By the way, anatolia was called Rumeli = Roman land)
fahritur 2 weeks ago
@fahritur Thank You, for your way of writing, I'll continue. How many people in Turkey today they feel turks? The research of the dna (university of Istanbul) shown that the turkic haplogroups of male dna in Turkey is only 3,4% this small part is higher than the rest wich is still what was from the ancient times of greek and mixed anatolian greek.
Not inluded the kurds but the so called turks. Turks made you the religion first and then language.
makis15n 1 week ago
Most of your nation are not turkish, Azeris and Turkmens are Iranians, and anatolian turks are Greek and Asian Minor nations, the central Asian "turks" are a mixture of tocharians other local nations and Mongolians, as your "turkic" language comes from mongolian language, the only common you have is the so called turkic languages and of course religion.
Nothing more, even the capital of ottomans were callen til early 20th century not Istanbul but KONSTANTINIYE.
makis15n 2 months ago
The "Turks" always were thieves their "culture" and "civilisation" were a mixture of Iranian Arabic and then Byzantine art. And in language the Ottoman language was more Iranian and Arabic and less "turkic" Mustafa Kemal "Ataturk" a Hebrew albanian ottoman, made the language turkish in 20th century. So turks stop saying all these bullshit about your nation and your race.
makis15n 2 months ago
@makis15n First of all, the Ottomans did not have a nationalist idealogy. They did not see themselves as a turcic empire. They may have been many things, but they were not racists. So it was no problem for them to adopt different cultures or languages. They did not try to assimilate those elements but rather coexisted with them and integrated them to their way of life. How one can see that as a theft, I dont know. Must be the "hate" speaking.
fahritur 2 weeks ago
@fahritur If my ancestors were moslems then I would be today turk as you say you are.
And if your ancestors kept the christian faith that means their national identity as Anatolian rums today you would be in Greece as greek, that's the point.
You know about the coin of Byzantium city which has the cresent moon with a star and writes ΒΥΖΑΝΤΙΩΝ = OF BYZANTINES = BIZANSLILARIN.
Before seldjuks and ottomans Asia Minor had big cities and a high civilisation and that was Greek, that's the truth.
makis15n 1 week ago
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@fahritur If my ancestors were moslems then I would be today turk as you say you are.
And if your ancestors kept the christian faith that means their national identity as Anatolian rums today you would be in Greece as greek, that's the point.
You know about the coin of Byzantium city which has the cresent moon with a star and writes ΒΥΖΑΝΤΙΩΝ = OF BYZANTINES = BIZANSLILARIN.
Before seldjuks and ottomans Asia Minor had big cities and a high civilisation and that was Greek, that's the truth.
makis15n 1 week ago
@fahritur Look when you take the art the architecture the music even some how the way of life the ethics, and the cities of an other civilisation and tell to others that all this are yours! How can you describe this act can you give a different name. Today in Turkey they say even the name of Anatolia is Greek (Anadolu = ΑΝΑΤΟΛΗ) in greek that means EAST. The manes of most of your cities are greek YES or NOT?
Your major mosques in Turkey are replicas mainly of Hagia Sophia?
makis15n 1 week ago
@makis15n So the Greeks stole from Egypt, the Romans stole from Greece, the Europeans stole from Rome... and so on? We must be all thieves then :-)
Look friend, there is no difference between the Roman empire and the Ottoman empire. Just like the Roman empire, the Ottoman empire was formed on many cultures and influenced many others. It conquered lands and ruled many nations. If that makes you hate the turks or italians, so be it. But dont let your hate blind you.
fahritur 1 week ago
@makis15n As I said, the fact that ottoman turks did not change the original names, shows that they had no superiority complex.They did not hate other cultures. At least not enough to wipe their traces, which is actually very common in history. I can give you many other examples of names in Turkey that have greek, armenian, persian, arabic or kurdish origins. But think for a moment. Who are the first owners of these lands? Non of them. There were always others before them. Think about England
fahritur 1 week ago
"Devotion to Hecate was especially favored by the Byzantines for her aid in having protected them from the incursions of Philip of Macedon. Her symbols were the crescent and star, and the walls of heAs you see is not my opinion, and Mehmet found that symbol and made it symbol of the Ottoman Empire before 1453 ottomans they didn't had it and the rest of moslems took it after the ottomans, it's so simple. Were is the problem?
makis15n 1 week ago
@makis15n This is so not right. The crescent moon and star were holy symbols for ancient tengriist Turkic people, long before they had contact with the byzantians. There are 1500 year old coins used by the Göktürks which had crescent moons and stars on it. (Just Google it and you will see pictures.) How do you explain that? And dont think the turks and byzantians were the only ones. It was also the symbol of the Sasanids Empire. And Ottomans used it long before Mehmet II, it was used by Murat I.
fahritur 1 week ago
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makis15n 1 week ago
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@fahritur You still don't answer the cresent moon and star the ottomans took it as their symbol and flag after the conquest of Constantinople, before they didn't have it and as you know the Seldjuks of Rum had as their symbol the other Byzantine symbol the two Head Eagle wich was the symbol of the East Roman Empire, because they felt that they were some how the "islamic" part of the East Roman Empire. But the arab caliphate NEVER HAD IT, NEVER!
makis15n 1 week ago
@fahritur Before Turks were the anatolian nations in Asia Minor most of them had pelasgian origin like the greek nation has pelasgian origin too, together with the greek cities of Asia Minor. Then were the Hellenistic states after them the Roman Empire but this part was always greek speaking and not latin. Then was the East Roman Empire the greek speaking part of Empire. Centuries later came for the first time the seldjuks and more later a part of them formated the ottomans.
makis15n 1 week ago
@fahritur You are saying that the ottomans didn't change the names. You want to know why it's simple greek speaking christians were till 1922, and the ottomans in fact were islamized greek speaking people, first took the religion and then the language.
So when you speak about turkic DNA you are wrong and the sciense proove that now days. You are moslem OK you are turkish speaking OK.
But you don't have turkic origin the 3,4% central asian DNA don't make you brothers of central asians.
makis15n 1 week ago
@makis15n So the turks are actually greeks now? :) This is funny.Than tell me why do you hate Ottomans so much, if they are just greeks?
Ofcourse the fact is not as simple as you want to belive. You want see everything white&black, greek or not greek. Thats your way of thinking. I dont care about ethnicity. Nor did the Ottomans. And when it comes to language, TURKİSH was the most common language in Ottoman lands. Dont try to manipulate the truth. People can check it out anyway.
fahritur 1 week ago
@fahritur NO the turkish language wasn't the most common language but the opposite was greek armenian kurdish slavic arabic and last was ottoman a language closer to persian and arabic different from todays turkish, and remember this the diplomatic language of the Ottoman Empire was also Greek! I don't hate ottomans as you said with the ottomans greeks lived for centuries (difficult YES but they lived) the Young Turks made all the distruction.
makis15n 1 week ago
@makis15n I agree that the Young Turks did many wrong politics. They were influenced by western nationalism. But you are wrong about Ottoman diplomacy. It was turkish and there are thousends of documents as evidence. And Ottoman turkish is mainly turkic and was used by the palace, not the common people. The people were speaking a pure turkish, just like in Yunus Emre's poetry. European merchants called Anatolia "Turkia" because turkish was the main spoken language from the 13. century on.
fahritur 1 week ago
@makis15n You keep repeating the same propaganda. I have answered all your claims, still you refuse to understand.
Ottoman turkish was used only by the elite, not by the common people in Ottoman times. It had many arabic and persian vocabulary in it, but it was mainly turkish. I know because I actually can READ it. There are hundreds of documents I have read. So dont try to decive people about it. I will not write more on this. I give up, you dont get. You are just uncapable of understanding.
fahritur 1 week ago
Some greek coins are older than 2300 years and were in use while ancient greeks were holding Afghanistan, Pakistan, Anatolia, Persia, Egypt, ect ... and at theses times as it as been said, there weren't known contacts between greeks and turkic peoples. Today, some afghans make a living by retrieving and selling theses greek coins. Now I would be curious to see a 1500- 2000 years old turkish coin with the crescent and the star associated together as they are on the anciant greek coins. Peace.
grognougnou 3 months ago
"The crescent and moon was a Turkic symbol long before the Turks came in contact with the Eastern Roman Empire."
==== Even if theses symbols would be turkic too, that would also mean that it was a greek symbol long before our greek ancestor came in contact with the turks. For example the coin depicting Alexander the Great entering Babylone in the documentary was found in Afghanistan, an anciant greek province.
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Otherwise, nice documentary.
grognougnou 3 months ago
Singapore is not an islamic country and Azad Kashmir is not even a country...
eternalblaze1 3 months ago
2 observations:
) At 3.47 Mujahideen entering the conquered city - true there is arabic scripture on the red flag BUT there is also a crescent / arc ontop of the flag poles.
2) Allah wahdahu la shreek has told us that the sun and the moon are amongst his signs - so whats wrong with using his signs as our emblems?
Of course no such thing is symbolic in Islam as a deity and anyone believing any sign to by a direct representation of Allah wahdahu La shreek is wrong.
4x4xfaz 3 months ago
[" Verily You Shall Conquer Constantinople. What a wonderful leader would her leader be, and what a wonderful army that army would be!" Prophet Mohammed (PBUH)].It took 900 years to realize this hadees. Ottomans (Sultan Mehmed 2) know Islam better than you, cz they are destined Jannati as confirmed by our Prophet (PBUH).
ahmed123in 4 months ago
@JohnTheHutDweller
As for the date "BCE 100-0" that should have been written as "BCE 100-1" years. For you to selectively pick the two errors and extrapolate to discredit my video and to suggest that I'm intentionally lying and distorting I find quite pathetic. Most of the information is correct and the point being made in the video is truthful. The mistakes will be corrected. Though I do appreciate some criticism about my videos.
A2Kaid 5 months ago
@JohnTheHutDweller In regards to the image of the "Byzantine coin" I show it's actually a coin from the Roman Empire and I think it's a coin of Roman Emperor Hadrian the coin also shows the name "Hadrian" across the left edge of the coin. I admit that was a mistake to label that specific coin a Byzantine coin, but the other coin which appears green certainly is. To accuse me of lying is a false and unworthy charge when the mistake was unintentional. I will make corrections to the video soon.
A2Kaid 5 months ago
this guy show coins from 100BC-0. and claims they are byzantine? First off there was no year 0. And Second the byzantine empire didn't start until AD313
JohnTheHutDweller 5 months ago
@RawisWargotit Muhammed robbed and plundered all the hindu temples in Arabia and made up a false "new" religion out of it. It's false because many of the ceremonies in Islam are hindu in origin. Even the dates of these ceremonies coincide with hindu holidays.
zzap999 5 months ago
@RawisWargotit You throw the word "rascists" alot which shows you don't even know what the word means. Anyway, none of what I said so far is fiction. There are dick/vagina idols all over the middle east and even India. One made it to Mecca and sits outside the Kaaba. Muhammed kissed it and all you crazy muslims do so as well. It's funny how 1 billion followers can take a religion seriously that kisses a black cock.
zzap999 5 months ago
@rostampedarman Plus Allah is a Sankrit word meaning goddess.
zzap999 5 months ago
@RawisWargotit The ancient Egyptians did it and now their descendants the muslims are doing it. Google ligam and look at the dick idols of your ancient ancestors.
zzap999 5 months ago
image is haram, you are the ignorant. the quran never says anything about symbols being haram ONLY images. have you ever thought about this? also our prophet peace be upon him NEVER CARRIED a gun, does that mean all muslim armies should use sword instead?
ALSO the islamic calender follows the MOON and the star on muslims flags have 5 sides. now what are the 5 most important things in islam? its the five pillars
NWA90s 5 months ago
I love Islam..I converted to it after I spent some time to do actual research into the literature and evidence..its amazing, all the misconceptions, things that I thought were part of or about Islam..with some proper research people can discover the great religion of Islam though unfortunately some people only want to listen and read things that support what their minds have already made up without sufficient proof. May God guide them.
saf786syd 6 months ago
@saf786syd
it was really nice to read your commment,not just because you converted,which is really amazing and make me happy cause i'm also muslim,but also the fact you are open mind and learned stuff because you wanted to.You should be really proud of yourself cause there is so many people who are scared to learn! :)
so well continue in that way, cause you're in the good way! :D
randomguyalwayshere 6 months ago
@saf786syd ''actual research"? LOL! Another fool of the pedophile "prophet". If you did any real research you will find that 1/5 of the Quran is stolen Christian stories from the Aramaic christians. The rest of the stuff such as holy sites and ceremonies are from Hinduism. Muhammad's father's name was Abdullah(slave of Allah). Now how does someone have that name before the birth of Islam?
zzap999 5 months ago
@rostampedarman Where did I say that scientists love hindus? There maybe so called Christians that abuse children. However, the teachings of Christ doesn't condone it. He even said that if you cause any child to sin then you deserve to have a limestone tied around your neck and thrown into the water.
zzap999 7 months ago
I am whatever Satan makes you think I am...
As long you feel good about yourself being judgemental... ;)
mekkareggae 7 months ago
@rostampedarman The age of consent in Spain is 13. According to Wikipedia, the youngest girl pregnant and with a photo standing pregnant is 5 or 6 years old from South America. Someone told me that even a girl less than a year old has gotten pregnant. I don't know of any documentation to back this up. However, I don't believe that justifies pedophilia which Muhammed apparently was. A child has a right to her childhood and definitely not ready to be an adult.
zzap999 7 months ago
@RawisWargotit There is approx 1 billion muslims. There are approx 6 billion people on earth. The pope has said that Europe is seeing a rise in paganism. With the age of the internet and social networking and thus many having more avenues of personal expression, religion itself won't have such a powerful effect as it did in the past. The last theocracy I predict will be Iran. Europe gave that up a long time ago.
zzap999 7 months ago
@rostampedarman I read that Muhammed and his armies would plunder the gold and silver from all the hindu temples in Arabia which would include the Kabbah. In fact there is a video in youtube even explaining that there was more than one Kabbah in past.
zzap999 7 months ago
@rostampedarman Also, be careful with your statement "religion is a bad joke". It shows you lack intelligence and any sort of sophistication. In other words, you sound like an ignorant buffoon. Many people from all walks of life including scientists have religious views. Somehow you seem to claim to have figured it all out and higher than the rest of humanity. There is a saying, "Those who say they know really don't know and those who say they don't know are really lying".
zzap999 7 months ago
@rostampedarman In other words, if you believe in evolution then Hinduism and Buddhism is right up your alley.
zzap999 7 months ago
@rostampedarman No, I'm not a hindu. However, I find many so called Atheist and Agnostics believing in Hinduism or Buddhism. They like all that reincarnation and cycling upward and evolving to a higher state of being blah, blah, blah. Buddhism for example is inherently atheistic. Buddhists unlike Hindus don't believe in any deity. According to them you control your eternal afterlife state. Scientology is just crack psychology mixed with science fiction stories and humanistic self worship.
zzap999 7 months ago
@Germany4everable Are you a non muslim who is being sarcastic? Non muslim people will regularly say "peace be upon him" after mentioning Muhammed as a form of mockery and false imitation. That's why as a non muslim I don't say that. Only real muslims can say such expressions with honesty.
zzap999 7 months ago
@rostampedarman The moon/star is the crown of Shiva. Pictures of Shiva have the symbol. The Kabbah is an ancient hindu temple. The black stone is a phallus idol of Shiva.
zzap999 7 months ago
@Germany4everable Muhammed himself was an idol worshipper.
zzap999 7 months ago
The moon and star are the crown of Shiva. Picture of Shiva have a moon and star above her/him. The moon symbolizes time. Shiva is the master of time. Furthermore, the Kabbah, black stone are all Hindu and origin. The Hindu dynasties were all lunar dynasties, "Vikramahadita(hindu king", "Om(sacred hindu name)" are written inside the walls of the Kabbah.
zzap999 7 months ago
First of all! This symbol appeared after Muhammad (SAWS) becuase some idolators had the urge to give Islam i logotype...
Islam does not compromice wid symbols, traditions nor culture...
However...
The first Mosqwues dat were built during Muhammads (SAWS) time and Salafs (the preoriginators of Sunna) has no symbol whatsoever...
mekkareggae 7 months ago
@mekkareggae
Why don´t "salafi" have a symbol ?
becharev 7 months ago
@mekkareggae Muhammed himself kissed the idol black stone which is the ligam of Shiva. You are a hypocrite.
zzap999 7 months ago
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@rostampedarman "Those who disbelieve in Our Signs, We shall soon cause them to enter Fire. As often as their skins are burnt up, WE shall give them in exchange other skins that they may continue to taste the punishment. Surely, ALLAH is Mighty and Wise." (4:56)
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BosKrajina 7 months ago
iSLAM IS THE ONLY WAY OF LIFE AMEN
855842 8 months ago
@855842 Islam kisses the dick of Hinduism.
zzap999 7 months ago
Islam is an evil cult of plunder - kind of cultural cancer that invades other cultures stealing & claiming as its own what it can utilise destroying what it cannot use or does not understand.
Thus islam moves from culture to culture creating nothing of its own but backwardness & ignorance in its quest for world domination.
Islam cannot be tolerated in the civilised world - it must be destroyed before it destroys us & plunges the world into a new dark age.
freeman8128 8 months ago
if a star is really is the symbol that represent Islam, what does it make the United state of America? there are lot of stars on that flag. i dont really see people talk about here.;)
zulhulaimyfauzy 8 months ago
very good flag
MaTaRoe 9 months ago
In my opinion every pagan symbol is forbidden in Islam. The things we are facing now are just innovations, and remember what Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said about the innovation. qulu bid'atin dholala wa qulu dholaatin fi nar ( every innovation leads to misguidance and every misguidance leads to fire )
BooYo1990 9 months ago
@BooYo1990 It’s so obvious that all the truth in the world is contained in the Koran! It’s the first book in Arabic and the last word of Allah. It’s a lot of hard work memorizing it all, but I’m persevering because I know that when I’m done I will know everything. Those damn ungrateful scientists who stole all their ideas from Mohammed. I'm into the slaving thing, and FGM and child rape. Where we see unbelievers’ abundance we will create famine. Allahu Akbar.
ritchloui 9 months ago
@ritchloui
stop your deception u fake. Ur mockery will only get u to hellfire.
DeathKnightPrime 5 months ago
@DeathKnightPrime ah, the usual primitive threat from the religion of peace
ritchloui 5 months ago
@ritchloui
Ah...The usual mockery from foul mouthed kafirs. may ur eyes never sleep.
DeathKnightPrime 5 months ago
@DeathKnightPrime You just can't help yourself with all your curses and calling your betters 'kaffirs'. I have said nothing 'foul mouthed' nor even considered cursing you, what was it 'may your eyes never sleep'. Oh stop it and look at yourself the the mirror. Mockery is the very least you can expect.
ritchloui 5 months ago
@ritchloui
Saying that my betters are kafirs sounds like a curse. So you think u havent said anything foul mouthed???? Oh the hypocrites never fail to amuse me! Read ur first post and then talk. Also read ur last statement of your previous comment. As for ur eyes never sleeping, it means u will not sleep in peace. Why dont u look urself in the mirror. Perhaps u will be amused.
DeathKnightPrime 5 months ago
@BooYo1990 And into the fire shall Islam go in the End of Times for it is an abomination unto God (not Allah for that is a pagan god which Arabic History has recorded that was part of the pagans who worshipped the Allah, the moon god).
punkin7733 8 months ago
@BooYo1990 Hindu scripture even forbids the worship of idols. Yet hindus bow down to them. Why?
zzap999 7 months ago
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The moon is sitting directly over my head and lights my path wherever I go just like the Sun. Dawn truly does provide light. I need NASA or a scientist or some other holy person to confirm this.
dawncrawford71 9 months ago
@wtfman591 if someone fools around with our religeon i show no mercy if someone is kind... ill be rigteous towards him or her... what do you expect me to introduce to you? you want to know the truth??? no i dont think so i dont think you care about the truth if so what a bad way of introducing yourself ;)
turkmuslim4ever 10 months ago
It is suspicious that one of the oldest (maybe the oldest) symbols of witchcraft, still used today, also happens to symbolize Islam...
gnomesrule19 10 months ago
It also has nothing to do with Arthemis (who is symbolized with crescent just because it looks like a bow.. she is an archer you know).
I dont agree that it is haram either. Otherwise all symbols would be haram. It is just a political symbol just like any other flag or flama or coat of arms. Ancient Turks have been using these things widely for communication and identification on the Eurasian steppes, since they were mainly nomadic populations.
smyrnianlink 10 months ago
It is a Turkish originated political symbol that symbolizes the unity of Islam. It is not a religious symbol. Islam clearly has no holy symbols. If you are in a horror film and you see a demon, do not try to use a crescent to scare him. :)
Famous historian Jean Paul Raux noted in "History of Turks" that the Turkish crescent is a Turkish originated ancient religious symbol that later in time lost its pagan meaning but kept its national meaning. It has nothing to do with "flag of Istanbul"
smyrnianlink 10 months ago
@kachil2 do you have scripture to prove this sick claim.. you have no evidence or proof so why lie...
DarkprinX2500 10 months ago
@gerila84 Respect the symbol of ISLAM...
AnadoluHilali 11 months ago
To All Muslims : No Hate,No Violence... Races? Only One Human race... United We Stand,Divided We Fall.
AnadoluHilali 11 months ago
proud to be a muslim :)
Nasbayern 11 months ago
@gerila84 = murderrousMossad84;
We "MUSLIM kurd" Respect Crescent Symbol of Our Religion Al ISLAM
AnadoluHilali 11 months ago
@gerila84 = filtyJEW84
We Muslims Love,and Respect Crescent Symbol of ISLAM !
AnadoluHilali 11 months ago
his symbol cresent moon and the star got caried into to islam. islam is a pagan religion repackeged. allah is a pagan moon god. hu baal.
orhun1112009 11 months ago
the information on this video is wrong. there is no proof turks in asia had cresent moon and the star as their symbol, none of their old flags show that. cresent moon and the star is used in middle east and eygpt it was the symbol of baal this pagan deity was worshiped by persians, eyptians, and pagan arabs, he was also worshiped by pagan romans, that is why all of the pagans has his symbol. since muhammed made his tribe kreysh's moon god allah spreem god of the universe, his symbollater on
orhun1112009 11 months ago
ISLAM= THE MODERN RELIGION OF Paganism MOON-god
Juanod09 11 months ago
Islam = worship the moon-god....
Juanod09 11 months ago
The Cresent Moon is not the Symbol of Islam.
It is the Kalima only. Not any sort of picture.
mhahmad786 1 year ago
I don't agree with this video at all. As muslims are explicitly told not to dipict any sort of picture or adopt non of the kafir (unbelievers) signs, it is very unlikely that the ottomans adopted this from the Beyzantine. Pre-islamic arbians used to worship the moon god Al-iha...No matter how hard you try, the evidences won't allow you hide the truth. Allah=moon god.
000NubianPrincess000 1 year ago
@000NubianPrincess000
Well your obviously misinformed nor have you read the description. Nor do you have evidence for this fallacy "Allah=Moon god" which is a lie and propaganda piece that only fools and the ignorant believe.
A2Kaid 1 year ago
@A2Kaid Well, I know you guys think your religion is perfect, your history is perfect...just everything about Islam is perfect ! So, every time someone points out something, he is wrong, misinformed or is a liar I don-t think it-s worth arguing with such brain washed mentality.
000NubianPrincess000 1 year ago
@000NubianPrincess000
Why are you so obsessed with Islam. Aren't you an African atheist? You really don't want me or others here to start bashing your incredibly modern and sophisticated Africa.
A2Kaid 11 months ago
@A2Kaid ? first, When you upload such video, you should obviously expect PPL who doesn't agree with the idea, so U should be able to answer, debunk , challenge & give evidence in order for them to accept ur claim. no need to make it so persoanal! Your racial prejudice is nothing but a part of your arogance (but I forgive you) second, Here we are talking about a single topic "Crescent Moon " So why would you expect me to point out some wrongs of islam? Stick with the topic !
000NubianPrincess000 11 months ago
@000NubianPrincess000
You haven't pointed out a single thing wrong. You just don't agree with Islamic teaching and standards.
A2Kaid 11 months ago
@000NubianPrincess000
You should try explaining why the Quran mentions how a baby is developed in a fetus, why the Quran mathematically reveals the speed of light, why Quran talks about the uniqueness of finger tips, and other scientific facts that were unknown to man in the 7th century.
A2Kaid 11 months ago
@A2Kaid U could fool some brainwashed muslims but not me.Obviously the Quran has no scientific facts or whatsoever but very recently muslim apologists have started to make the whole Quran look like a science book. It's funny but sad. They take 1 single phrase out of context & insist that it is scientific. All of the claims u mentioned are debunked non of them are true.If the Quran has such scientific facts then how comes the Arabian countries are ridiculously strange to science?
000NubianPrincess000 11 months ago
@000NubianPrincess000
Nothing has been debunked you backwards African maybe if your IQ wasn't 1 standard deviation below the curve you wouldn't make such idiotic claims. It's a fact Qur'an reveals infants are born from a fetus, human have unique finger prints, speed of light, techtonic plates, etc. If you weren't so brainwashed you African by atheist and hate media you would realize that. Arab regimes are the ones holding their people back, the same regimes West has been supporting.
A2Kaid 11 months ago
@A2Kaid subhanallah brother.. your comment is soo eye opening and truthful.. this should be the top comment for this video in my view.. mashallah..
DarkprinX2500 10 months ago
@A2Kaid I guess Nubian you are deceived by the liar and you are kafir?? - perhaps the most proud one...the deceiver the destroyer is reallly against you and is trying to take you to judgment by lying about the way of True Worship.... as taught by Jesus Christ
redemptionapostolic 1 year ago
@A2Kaid I guess Nubian you are deceived by the liar and you are kafir?? - perhaps the most proud one...the deceiver the destroyer is reallly against you and is trying to take you to judgment by lying about the way of True Worship.... as taught by Jesus Christ ...further Mohammeds family were idolaters of many moon god idols and they were all destroyed but one - it sits in Mecca until this day and all worshippers revolve around it?? why is it there?? if forbidden?
redemptionapostolic 1 year ago
@000NubianPrincess000 lol witch evidence your arrogant brains? if you want to read the book of Allah go ahead... it is clear that Allah says himself the one treu creator the same creator of Hz Adem Hz Nuh Hz Ibrahim Hz Ismail Hz Ishak Hz Jakub Hz Lut Hz Hud Hz Suleyman Hz Isa Hz Muhammad peace and blessings be upon them Allah is the creator of all and if you reject go ahead but what your doing is insulting our belief... such a weak thing sheitan always does and uses weak people like you
turkmuslim4ever 11 months ago
@turkmuslim4ever For crying at loud nobody is insulting ur belief....By the way which Allah are you talking about? the arab christians use the name Allah to say simply 'god', the sabeans also call their god Allah. The name Allah isn't a personal name or anything it just mean god. There are thausands of gods out there...I don't understand how U brain washed PPL still insist on saying "my god is the only true god!" while there isn't any evidence for the existence of ur gods.
000NubianPrincess000 11 months ago
@000NubianPrincess000 Allah is 1 Allah whom has no equal he begets not nor is he begotten... Allah is allmighty all powerfull
turkmuslim4ever 11 months ago
@turkmuslim4ever What is allah? how does he look like? how do you distingush him from all the other gods?
000NubianPrincess000 11 months ago
@000NubianPrincess000 let me give you a example if i hit you... do you see the pain? but you know it exists with a certainty right... thats a small meassure to give but we believe with certainty... if you are a good person you will end up being a muslim... but if death comes nothing can save you anymore exept Allah
turkmuslim4ever 11 months ago
@turkmuslim4ever Yes, If you hit me I feel the pain, ever heard of the 5 sense organs? feeling pain is perceived by one of my sense organs...the skin.So the existence of pain is unquestionable, my brain perfectly understands whats going on For something to be understood by a human brain, it has to pass at least through one of the 5 sense organs, But in your case which sense of organ do you use to understand your Allah? I guess none !!
000NubianPrincess000 11 months ago
@000NubianPrincess000
You moron, Allah isn't in the eminent domain nor physical realm, hence intangible. You haven't proven anything. Even Science knows it's limit is the eminent domain and physical realm. There is knowledge in the Qur'an that no man could have written. Not to mention the fact that the Earth is in absolute perfect to the cm position to have the perfect climate, weather, axis, distance from sun to support human life on Earth didn't happen by chance.
A2Kaid 11 months ago
@A2Kaid
Correction: empirical domain*
A2Kaid 11 months ago
@000NubianPrincess000 in my case :) one day we all shall die... and we all will be questioned if you dont believe me then wait and see why we muslims call disbelievers blind deaf dumb... and why your hearts are sealed... you dont believe in what i believe so you do what you do and we do what we do and we will not be with the arrogant people
turkmuslim4ever 11 months ago
@turkmuslim4ever YOU COULDN'T FIND AN ANSWER TO MY QUESTION HA? TYPICAL BRAINWASHED RELIGIOUS FREAK !
000NubianPrincess000 11 months ago
@000NubianPrincess000 what question you arrogant fool... dont you have a soul? if you dont believe in the creator of the worlds why do you worry so much? im telling you your going to go for hell for a eternity unless you become a muslim Allah knows best tho ;) you might be forgiven but i hope not not for kafir/disbeliever like you!
turkmuslim4ever 11 months ago
@turkmuslim4ever Why do muslims call everyone "Arrogant"? loool to be very honest, most of the arrogant people I know are muslims...including you. You are so childish and a waste of time! I am done with you
000NubianPrincess000 11 months ago
@000NubianPrincess000 you are filth Allah will win your place is eternal hell rot with your hatred ignorant pig
turkmuslim4ever 11 months ago
@turkmuslim4ever This type of speech proves where Islam comes from, for this type of words comes from Hell it self and was taught to the false prophet and his false cult of Islam. Muhammads history was a violent one, 27 wars he started, stealing land, raping women and children, forcing people to choose death or Islam. Muhammad chose the black flag which has always been a symbol of evil, used by many witchs, pagans, etc. in their own practices.
punkin7733 8 months ago
@punkin7733 :) what do you know... what does she know... nothing... your people just watch tv go to disco eat pork witch is forbidden in christianity also(hypocrisy) who do you follow you say my religeon is evil? your people are evil man... what do you know about pagans? my prophet and his sahabe fought them... and crushed their man made gods... what do you know about the muslims nothing! you can only talk shit and think your on the right path well to hell with you and dont say a thing about him
turkmuslim4ever 8 months ago
@punkin7733 i totally agree with you bro.. Islam is evil, dark and ignorant
tarun1982 8 months ago
@000NubianPrincess000 I now agree with him for calling you a arrogant. Why? Because he blame every muslim for one muslims acts.
NWA90s 10 months ago
Blessings Brethren and Sistren in the name of Yahweh.
The star inside the crescent moon goes back to babylon. The star represents the sun, the reincarnation of king nimrod, lucifer himself. The crescent moon represents the moon, queen semiramis, wife of lucifer. The star going inside the moon is consistent with semiramis's story that her son tammuz was conceived after nimrod's passing by a ray from the sun, nimrod's reincarnated penis. mystery babylon rel?g?on has deceived the whole world.
1RastaWarrior 1 year ago 2
Greek orthodox churches use the crescent symbol to symbolize victory over the Ottomans, who laid siege to Vienna unsuccessfully. There is also a bread called croissant in France (holy cross) which is crescent-formed. In greek ortodox churches the cross is triumphantly standing on the crescent, like this (---+ (seen sideways here).
BjornPalmen 1 year ago
Flags which depict a star _within_ the crescent are incorrect. A star within the crescent can _never_ be seen because it would be hidden behind the moon.
BjornPalmen 1 year ago
@BjornPalmen
True, but if you examine the flags closely the star is positioned outside the circumference of the crescent moon even if it were a full moon. So the star on most flags is located outside the circumference which means it would be visible.
A2Kaid 1 year ago
@A2Kaid These flags have the star INSIDE the crescent: Algeria, Pakistan and Tunisia.
A bright light seen inside the dark area of the moon can only come from the light of a moon base.
BjornPalmen 1 year ago
@BjornPalmen
Algeria and Tunisia yes. On some Pakistani flags drawn and made (especially on internet) the star is somewhat inside and or some have stars midway (half of the star inside and half outside if we want to be precise). On Pakistani flags I've seen the star adequately outside just enough to be visible.
A2Kaid 1 year ago
@A2Kaid The moon in the flags is probably our own moon even if no craters are drawn to identify it. But which star is it on the flags? The flag of Bethlehem? There are some 3000 stars visible to the naked eye. On the flag of New Zealand there are four stars, the Southern Cross.
BjornPalmen 1 year ago
Of course they don't represent Islam. It's simply a symbol used by Turkic ruling class, found all among Asia.
ancalimonungol 1 year ago
One of the problems for some muslims and non-muslims is that they think that the star and crescent represents Islam which is absolutely false.The Prophet Muhammad SAW never used any symbols.Don't believe then please do some real research before making a blind conclusion about Islam.Don't look at so called muslim states to learn about Islam.
777SyedMohamed 1 year ago
what is this vid' trying ti prove or say???
ANTIJPUG 1 year ago
The crescent moon is a fertility symbol.
zzap999 1 year ago
im not sure if this is correct,i may need to ask someone older than me just incase if this is true
ysw1999 1 year ago
please correct yout video it's means the reflection of the moon and stars on the spoiled blood of the Muslim soldiers killed in battles against non-Islamic nations
Urgent
faisalkfpm 1 year ago
@faisalkfpm I did, and I come up with that
faisalkfpm 1 year ago
I red in wikibedia and which I most convinced of that it's to indicate the reflection of moon and stars on the lakes of shohada's(Muslims sacrifying their lifes in battles to open other countries) blood in the days of Islamic fateh.
faisalkfpm 1 year ago
I get the feeling this was produced by A1Kaid/Umar
Arturocampanas 1 year ago
Why Kazakhstan and Albania are there? There is no Turkestan now by the way.
By position of the Moon and stars early Muslim travelers and soldiers determined their way during expansion of Caliphate. They built mosques with crescents on the minarets with ends pointed towards Zenith over Mecca. That's why most of non-Arab countries with majority Muslim population adopted this symbols. It's significant part of their history, history of islamization.
haimaphil 1 year ago
:) cresent moon is the symbol of islam like the christians use cross and the jews use hazreti davuds star
turkmuslim4ever 1 year ago
The crescent moon is the symbol of the Turkic tribes.It has/had nothing to do with Islam.There is some speculation that Turkic tribes adopted much from the Sarmats/Skyths since the their language is loaded with Iranic terms, as such the crescent moon could also represent the Sumerian goddess Nanna.
clerh8 1 year ago
nice compilation, with recent discoveries its proven that crescent and star is infact a symbolization of Gok Tengrism.
it suits well on Islam anyway
btw, shamanism(tengrism) and paganism may look similar in their ways of worshipping or such but in core they are different drastically.
at basic, in tengrism there was one supreme being, one creator,Gok Tengri. sharing same attributes with God. reincarnation was believed, but in other dimension where Tengri resides.
I love asian shamanism
kespec 1 year ago
i would like to add to your research as i have done exstensive research on symbols i have recently found the cresent moon can also be used as a pentagram for satanic worship if you don't believe me you can google santanic and occult signs/symbols i urge people to do there own research we have been put in a box people don't be afraid to break the old mold! Don't be afraid to study! Don't be afraid to question what you are told!
lillmissbaaadasss 1 year ago
@lillmissbaaadasss Google xd, grab a fucking book ingorant.
elteuton1 1 year ago
@elteuton1
Oh a book, as if man didn't write that too! watch out who your calling ignorant amazing to me how people think they know everything, of course by posting a comment like that you apparently aren't well educated. Thank you for showing your ass. :)
Btw you you can't spell, its Ignorant! Google would of taught u that haha again watch who your calling ignorant
lillmissbaaadasss 1 year ago
@lillmissbaaadasss
Lol your right he spelt "ignorant" wrong and he's the one accusing you of being "ingorant" haha...
A2Kaid 1 year ago
@A2Kaid
Lol thank you i got a good laugh out of that too :)
lillmissbaaadasss 1 year ago
@lillmissbaaadasss
"as if a man didn't write that too"
What did you mean by that? As if women don't write books?
A2Kaid 1 year ago
@A2Kaid No dear it is just a figure of speech meaning as if human didn't write that too of couse women can write books we can do anything we put our minds too
lillmissbaaadasss 1 year ago
@lillmissbaaadasss
Oh okay, I was thinking maybe your one of those "angry" or "frustrated" feminist...lol
A2Kaid 1 year ago