I am 38 years of age and was a bad boy when I was younger but once a year,at least,I have a wee cry about some fictional robots dying and being cast adrift.lol
When reviewing anything, remember 'subjectivity'. There is no view other that your own. For my part 2001 is a more enjoyable movie. Dr K is very enjoyable though.
Just saw the movie, i thought i had seen all the best sci fi movies, glad i was wrong. We need more sci fi movies that take their time to tell a good story.
Hey Mark. Absolute Classic movie as you so rightly say. The Masters Of Cinema, Eurek release to Blu-ray is Fantastic. Picked up the Steelbook & what a thing of great beauty. Love the film & like revisiting an old friend from my childhood that is just as wonderful today as it was then. Terrific behind the scenes extra video as well that is highly recommended to check out. Fabulous stuff & what a perfect movie making union between star Bruce Dern & Director Douglas Trunball.
Furthermore, Kermode (while I do like him) seems to have a habit of ranking films which seems unnecessary and is made all the more annoying due to his attitude of being right because he's right because he's right.
Of course it's normal to refer to other films, but Ebert, for example, doesn't seem to feel the need to constantly rank them, and while I probably disagree with him more often (The Phantom Menace 4 stars?! Come on man!) I think I prefer him as a critic.
I think 2001 is more provocative and challenging. I wasn't overly fond of either film after I first saw them, but 2001 left more of an impression: I felt like I'd watched something different that had just gone over my head, whereas with Silent Running I just felt, "meh." I agree with mikeboy0001 that it's just an average film at best, and I speak as someone who should agree with the environmental ideals it spouts.
I also found Huey, Dewey and Louie corny, almost a forerunner to the Ewoks.
Both are great in there own ways, you can't say which is better than the other. Yes both are set in space on a ship but so are many other films. You may as well compare Pinocchio to Spirited Away as both of those films are animated.
Oh dear, another nostalgia fest. Yes, we all have crappy film from our early years that we have a soft spot for. It doesn't make them classics. I loved Silent Running as a kid, but when I saw it recently I thought it was pompous and smug. Ha ha, just like Mark....only kidding.
Silent Running is only known because of 2001 lovers
It's an average flick at best at everything it does, story, effects or acting
I respect Mark for liking Silent Running better, but to consider it a superior film is just making himself ridiculous
I find myself liking Pop Music much better than Opera, but would never say Pop is superior to Opera, as that would be a stupid statement of tremendous magnitude
I have to disagree Mark. 2001 is not entirely about the lack of humanity in our future (although that is one of the themes). 2001 is about our evolution, and about our species as a whole. The black monolith's appearance represents the coming of change in a species. Hal evolved to become more human and more instinctual in his survival skills (and his plea for mercy from Dave is one of the most haunting scenes ever). Meanwhile, Dave goes on to become a star child, our next stage of evolution.
I agree with the Good Doctor - Silent Running is an absolute classic and I have loved it since I first saw it decades ago. Fantastic that it's getting it's BluRay debut, too. Such a moving, haunting movie, so beautiful to look at (brilliantly designed by Trumbull - famously filmed aboard a retired aircraft carrier) and so amazingly acted by Bruce Dern. Good to see this film getting some fresh appreciation all over again.
well...it's the Good Doctor with his opinions again. the Exorcist was scary but it was NEVER the best horror film. I haven't seen Silent Running but i've seen 2001 multiple times and it's a masterpiece BECAUSE it is not emotional. It's easy to reduce people to tears, much more difficult to make them ponder and think about themselves. It also does not shed a tear about the fate of the human species because, in the end, we're not the center of the universe and neither is our planet.
@Regenmacher175 "Get with it. Millions of galaxies of hundreds of millions of stars, in a speck on one in a blink. That's us, lost in space. The cop, you, me... Who notices?". Disconnected anti-humanist thinking is not the reason why 2001 is a good film.
I'm usually with the good doctor, but I suspect he might be viewing this through the same rose-tinted goggles he uses for Dougal and the Blue Cat. I don't think its to do with going against the common opinion as someone suggested here, I think its just nostalgia.
@IBDoyle What I meant was: Kermode does not understand certain films or directors and therefore dislikes them. He recently said that he disliked Eyes Wide Shut. Of course, Kubrick is an universe in itself. I find it annoying that someone gets paid by talking about films without saying anything substantial or doing the film justice.
I do like Silent Running a lot, but it does rate highly on the overacted-cheese scale (even for its time) in far too many scenes, and that tends to distract you from what is a really interesting story, with superb sets and miniatures. Personally, I find the Joan Baez contributions to the soundtrack unbearable. For a "human side to 2001" movie, I much prefer Tarkovsky's "Solaris" from 1972; a truly beautiful and emotionally resonant film that I loved from the first time I saw it.
@whywontyoulisten While I love the Tarkovsky film, one of the great SF film ironies is although it does indeed pull off the "more human 2001" wonderfully, the original author of the book thinks it's exactly the wrong approach! The book is primarily interested in the utter failure for the life on Earth and Solaris to ultimately communicate, with the visions the crewmembers see being merely another failed attempt at communication, rather than the point of the piece.
Couldn't agree more with the good doctor. 2001 is a spectacular, wonderful movie, but it isn't a human movie. It doesn't provide a sense of connection or an emotional opinion. It's cold, which is probably the point. Silent Running however is not cold. It's heated, it has an opinion, it has a real, deeply personal character all of it's own that someone or multiple people have clearly poured themselves in to. It's fluid, organic and openly communicative in a way 2001 isn't. I love it.
My god! Finally. I thought it was just me and one of my favourite all time films. 2001 doesn't make my top ten, but Silent Running is in my top five with It's a Wonderful Life and A Matter of Life and Death... plus others.
thanks dr kermode.i have just watched silent running for the first time and i love it! a great sci-fi film.very underated.thanks again mark.keep up the good work
It's ok, but cheesy (especially the Joan Baez Soundtrack) but not in a million years is it better thag 2001. More soften than not I ask myself what DrK is thinking (the most glaring examples being his inexplicable love fir Twilight and High School Musical).
I was gutted the other day. Amazon had the blu-ray pre order for £3.99 which I of course ordered. I then get an email telling me it was a mistake (obviously lol) and they aren't going to honour it.Bastards!
I don't like the movie, but I always respect the Doctor's opinions. Well done sir, makes me want to go back and rewatch it even though I don't want to...
The band 65daysofstatic have been doing live shows over the past 9 months, in which they re-score 'Silent Running'. On a stage, with the film in the background, the band play a new score for the film as it plays.
From what I've heard, it's quite an experience. 65daysofstatic[.]com/blog/2010/10/29/silent-running/
@tenaciousd2005 Oh, it is - I was fortunate enough to get tickets to a Manchester show earlier this year. They're actually in the process of recording their version of the soundtrack to be released as a downloadable album... should be available in a couple of weeks actually...
Yang to Yin actually. Other than that, agreed.
YouFoolWarrenIsDead 1 week ago
I am 38 years of age and was a bad boy when I was younger but once a year,at least,I have a wee cry about some fictional robots dying and being cast adrift.lol
vipertruck99 1 month ago
2001 is only interesting after hal malfunctions
frogtastic1000 1 month ago
When reviewing anything, remember 'subjectivity'. There is no view other that your own. For my part 2001 is a more enjoyable movie. Dr K is very enjoyable though.
mccandless1 2 months ago
Just saw the movie, i thought i had seen all the best sci fi movies, glad i was wrong. We need more sci fi movies that take their time to tell a good story.
thepezdispenser 2 months ago
But it always makes me cry.
Mojosbigstick 3 months ago
Hey Mark. Absolute Classic movie as you so rightly say. The Masters Of Cinema, Eurek release to Blu-ray is Fantastic. Picked up the Steelbook & what a thing of great beauty. Love the film & like revisiting an old friend from my childhood that is just as wonderful today as it was then. Terrific behind the scenes extra video as well that is highly recommended to check out. Fabulous stuff & what a perfect movie making union between star Bruce Dern & Director Douglas Trunball.
buckaroobanzai 3 months ago
Furthermore, Kermode (while I do like him) seems to have a habit of ranking films which seems unnecessary and is made all the more annoying due to his attitude of being right because he's right because he's right.
Of course it's normal to refer to other films, but Ebert, for example, doesn't seem to feel the need to constantly rank them, and while I probably disagree with him more often (The Phantom Menace 4 stars?! Come on man!) I think I prefer him as a critic.
orkavorn 3 months ago
@orkavorn 3.5 stars
Casarzino 3 weeks ago
I think 2001 is more provocative and challenging. I wasn't overly fond of either film after I first saw them, but 2001 left more of an impression: I felt like I'd watched something different that had just gone over my head, whereas with Silent Running I just felt, "meh." I agree with mikeboy0001 that it's just an average film at best, and I speak as someone who should agree with the environmental ideals it spouts.
I also found Huey, Dewey and Louie corny, almost a forerunner to the Ewoks.
orkavorn 3 months ago
Both are great in there own ways, you can't say which is better than the other. Yes both are set in space on a ship but so are many other films. You may as well compare Pinocchio to Spirited Away as both of those films are animated.
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Oh dear, another nostalgia fest. Yes, we all have crappy film from our early years that we have a soft spot for. It doesn't make them classics. I loved Silent Running as a kid, but when I saw it recently I thought it was pompous and smug. Ha ha, just like Mark....only kidding.
Alimantado91 3 months ago
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Alimantado91 3 months ago
This has to be a joke
Silent Running is only known because of 2001 lovers
It's an average flick at best at everything it does, story, effects or acting
I respect Mark for liking Silent Running better, but to consider it a superior film is just making himself ridiculous
I find myself liking Pop Music much better than Opera, but would never say Pop is superior to Opera, as that would be a stupid statement of tremendous magnitude
mikeboy0001 3 months ago
I LOVE Silent Running.... But it's not better than 2001!
MichaelLeroi 3 months ago
It is
HOTROD69111 4 months ago
i really dont believe mark believes its better than 2001 he`s just saying it to stir the pot
dronken 4 months ago 2
I saw this when I was about 12....I was upset by it for days afterwards.
murrayp4 4 months ago
The BluRay release may well be amazing Mark but wait until they bring out the 3D version!!!
PhilipPorter 4 months ago
for a second there i thought mark had grown an unwise ponytail......... but its just a lamp
excrutiated 4 months ago
It's good, but it ain't 2001 good.
SteveTheMovieGuy1 4 months ago
not seen either of them.... my shame is all encompassing
TheHappydead 4 months ago
I think you're mistaking a masterpiece with good old fashioned nostalgia Mark.
shatminer 4 months ago 5
Agreed :)
ttandc 4 months ago
BY THE WAY,,,
Look right >
The whole film is uploaded to youtube.
Octavius0 4 months ago 3
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I loved this film. Saw it as a child and many times since, it's brilliant.
Octavius0 4 months ago 2
A truly underrated 1970s sci-fii cinematic classic.
pypeworld 4 months ago
Meh, he also thinks Twilight is good.
davidfgranger 4 months ago 3
I thought this was going to be about the 65 Days of Static screenings.
robbro7 4 months ago
I have to disagree Mark. 2001 is not entirely about the lack of humanity in our future (although that is one of the themes). 2001 is about our evolution, and about our species as a whole. The black monolith's appearance represents the coming of change in a species. Hal evolved to become more human and more instinctual in his survival skills (and his plea for mercy from Dave is one of the most haunting scenes ever). Meanwhile, Dave goes on to become a star child, our next stage of evolution.
BPReviewer 4 months ago
Shockingly (to me) i have not seen Silent Running - by the end of the day this shall be remedied. Bruce Dern really is a terrific actor too.
olderloverxx 4 months ago
Sorry Mark, you are out of your mind. 2001 is by far much better. Sorry Dr.
hdvillada 4 months ago
I agree with the Good Doctor - Silent Running is an absolute classic and I have loved it since I first saw it decades ago. Fantastic that it's getting it's BluRay debut, too. Such a moving, haunting movie, so beautiful to look at (brilliantly designed by Trumbull - famously filmed aboard a retired aircraft carrier) and so amazingly acted by Bruce Dern. Good to see this film getting some fresh appreciation all over again.
Dogstar060763 4 months ago
well...it's the Good Doctor with his opinions again. the Exorcist was scary but it was NEVER the best horror film. I haven't seen Silent Running but i've seen 2001 multiple times and it's a masterpiece BECAUSE it is not emotional. It's easy to reduce people to tears, much more difficult to make them ponder and think about themselves. It also does not shed a tear about the fate of the human species because, in the end, we're not the center of the universe and neither is our planet.
Regenmacher175 4 months ago
@Regenmacher175 Your reasons as to why 2001 is a masterpiece is the same as what "Vincent" from Collateral would have said.
djmax2k6 4 months ago
@djmax2k6 how so?
Regenmacher175 4 months ago
@Regenmacher175 "Get with it. Millions of galaxies of hundreds of millions of stars, in a speck on one in a blink. That's us, lost in space. The cop, you, me... Who notices?". Disconnected anti-humanist thinking is not the reason why 2001 is a good film.
djmax2k6 4 months ago
2001 is the greatest science fiction film other than Blade Runner. Silent Running not so much.
wdm2112 4 months ago 3
Douglas Trumbull also did the "Tree of Life" universe segment!
moeezS 4 months ago
I'm usually with the good doctor, but I suspect he might be viewing this through the same rose-tinted goggles he uses for Dougal and the Blue Cat. I don't think its to do with going against the common opinion as someone suggested here, I think its just nostalgia.
reservoirdog666 4 months ago 2
Hm, I have never heard of this movie before. I must see it. What you said abojt it made me think of Moon.
SpeedFreakNO 4 months ago
I was sold when I heard the name Bruce Dern.
DrHasslein 4 months ago
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Six Feet Under...
citizenkeane 4 months ago
@ZAMPAROAD You sir, are a comedy genius.
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Anything is better than 2001. Most overrated film ever.
aefan1993 4 months ago
@aefan1993 I have to agree with you, 2001 is ridiculously overrated. Just like every other Kubrick film. My opinion of course.
DannyBoy777 4 months ago
2001 is good but not as good as transformers 3
ZAMPAROAD 4 months ago 15
@ZAMPAROAD You have mental issues.
Transformers2themax 3 weeks ago
Can somebody please explain Kubrick to Kermode? It is getting annoying.
dedalus1983 4 months ago
@dedalus1983 Could you explain Kubrick to me? I'm a fan, but it's hard to put into words. It's just his opinion, after all.
IBDoyle 4 months ago
@IBDoyle What I meant was: Kermode does not understand certain films or directors and therefore dislikes them. He recently said that he disliked Eyes Wide Shut. Of course, Kubrick is an universe in itself. I find it annoying that someone gets paid by talking about films without saying anything substantial or doing the film justice.
dedalus1983 4 months ago
I do like Silent Running a lot, but it does rate highly on the overacted-cheese scale (even for its time) in far too many scenes, and that tends to distract you from what is a really interesting story, with superb sets and miniatures. Personally, I find the Joan Baez contributions to the soundtrack unbearable. For a "human side to 2001" movie, I much prefer Tarkovsky's "Solaris" from 1972; a truly beautiful and emotionally resonant film that I loved from the first time I saw it.
whywontyoulisten 4 months ago
@whywontyoulisten While I love the Tarkovsky film, one of the great SF film ironies is although it does indeed pull off the "more human 2001" wonderfully, the original author of the book thinks it's exactly the wrong approach! The book is primarily interested in the utter failure for the life on Earth and Solaris to ultimately communicate, with the visions the crewmembers see being merely another failed attempt at communication, rather than the point of the piece.
BlackMoonLilith 4 months ago
2001 is good, but its not as good as Battlefield Earth.
ihopeyouredone 4 months ago 2
Couldn't agree more with the good doctor. 2001 is a spectacular, wonderful movie, but it isn't a human movie. It doesn't provide a sense of connection or an emotional opinion. It's cold, which is probably the point. Silent Running however is not cold. It's heated, it has an opinion, it has a real, deeply personal character all of it's own that someone or multiple people have clearly poured themselves in to. It's fluid, organic and openly communicative in a way 2001 isn't. I love it.
gaggle64 4 months ago
I wonder if DrK would still call this movie better than 2001, if Silent Running was revered and 2001 underappreciated.
Robkinggozer 4 months ago 4
I get that Kermode is a big sensitive guy, but when it comes to emotion I don't trust him, he likes twilight, and he cried watching harry potter.
But I admire him for standing for his opinions despite all criticism.
MiDD606 4 months ago 7
@MiDD606 Harry Potter rocks, dumbass.
Foebane72 4 months ago
@Foebane72
i didnt said it sucks.
MiDD606 4 months ago
i really didn't like it. sorry kermode.
loz1023 4 months ago 2
Glad to see your still playing with toys
thedvdwhore 4 months ago 2
Sounds alot like "Moon" (2009)
paintballing489 4 months ago
My god! Finally. I thought it was just me and one of my favourite all time films. 2001 doesn't make my top ten, but Silent Running is in my top five with It's a Wonderful Life and A Matter of Life and Death... plus others.
splik 4 months ago
Blasphemy! 2001 is better, and so is The Tree of Life.
BullshiterBader 4 months ago 4
thanks dr kermode.i have just watched silent running for the first time and i love it! a great sci-fi film.very underated.thanks again mark.keep up the good work
gaxel86 4 months ago
It's ok, but cheesy (especially the Joan Baez Soundtrack) but not in a million years is it better thag 2001. More soften than not I ask myself what DrK is thinking (the most glaring examples being his inexplicable love fir Twilight and High School Musical).
fleischwolferl 4 months ago 7
@fleischwolferl Gotta agree. I watched Silent Running recently and could not get past the saccharine, sappy songs.
TheSamuraiGoomba 4 months ago 2
@fleischwolferl Don't forget claiming that Breaking The Waves is sickeningly misogynistic and The Big Lebowski is no good.
MrVinushka 4 months ago
I was gutted the other day. Amazon had the blu-ray pre order for £3.99 which I of course ordered. I then get an email telling me it was a mistake (obviously lol) and they aren't going to honour it.Bastards!
Jellyform 4 months ago
Fantastic film from a great period of sci-fi and horror (1971-1982)
Soylent Green, The Omen Trilogy, Alien, Bladerunner (my favorite), The Exorcist, Clockwork Orange, Logan's Run,The Andromeda Strain, Capricorn One, Scanners,Close Encounters, Solaris, Mad Max,Star Wars.........
This was the brave new world, where utopia meets dystopia, where idea's matter.
Now with few exceptions (Moon,Cube,Melancholia,Children of Men) they are in the main horrible franchises and re-heats.
dopplereffeckt675 4 months ago
Just got hold of it. Gonna watch it tonight.
ChristopherDone 4 months ago
it's not
MartinusSatanicus 4 months ago 39
@MartinusSatanicus opinions differ, but are never wrong.
othyization 4 months ago 2
@othyization I'm my oppinion you are a zebra
keflar5 4 months ago
@keflar5 I stand corrected... not always wrong : )
othyization 4 months ago
ouch indeed!
simozonelayer 4 months ago
Ouch! Better than 2001.
AdamPPrice 4 months ago
I don't like the movie, but I always respect the Doctor's opinions. Well done sir, makes me want to go back and rewatch it even though I don't want to...
Nick4700 4 months ago
The sound quality on this video is very poor - sort it out!
wilf81 4 months ago
The band 65daysofstatic have been doing live shows over the past 9 months, in which they re-score 'Silent Running'. On a stage, with the film in the background, the band play a new score for the film as it plays.
From what I've heard, it's quite an experience. 65daysofstatic[.]com/blog/2010/10/29/silent-running/
tenaciousd2005 4 months ago
@tenaciousd2005 Oh, it is - I was fortunate enough to get tickets to a Manchester show earlier this year. They're actually in the process of recording their version of the soundtrack to be released as a downloadable album... should be available in a couple of weeks actually...
DanielTNicolas 4 months ago
I can't believe I haven't seen this.
Sodacake 4 months ago
Yay! Silent Running... That film had a profound effect on me as a child...
vrooomuk 4 months ago