Sonic 360 Engine - How to Make a Level

[ChibiDoodlebug]

Aw, I wish I had been able to download the engine when it was still available. Creating a game level would be SO. FUN.

[Kurofox4444]

@ChibiDoodlebug It's actually still quite popular. Many people have been making upgraded mod versions of the engine with unleashed/colors/generations physics and other styles too, I'm just not exactly sure what they're called.

[supershadow1921]

wont let me enter animv095c

[sayouf33]

ugh its so hard >_< i just head google sketch does the stages is that right?

[Kurofox4444]

@sayouf33 I'm not sure, I uploaded this a long time ago, so I'm sure there are other ways to do this now.

[Abridgedspeed]

i downloaded an8 to b3d but when i click to run it, it shows a quick loading screen, then leaves.

[Ratty524]

I have some questions:

1) Can autodesk Maya be a substitute for this Anim8tor program, or does it have to be with this?

2) The download link to the Sonic 360 engine is broken, could you point me to a working link?

[Kurofox4444]

@Ratty524

1) If you have autodesk Maya, you already have a MUCH better program than this, but you will have to use a different method to convert it since for whatever reason this program is ONLY designed for Anim8or. Look for other tutorials online because this is a very old method

2) The engine was discontinued a long time ago, though people are still working on their own versions. Look up Blitz Sonic Unleashed by LinkSonic5 for example. This is a much improved version of the engine I used.

[Kurofox4444]

@Ratty524 I'm sorry, I meant Blitz Sonic Ultra

[sonicthehedgehog618]

hay

[adonis4441]

@sonicthehedgehog618 WHAT

[TheDaniel311]

i did it and sonic cant stand on this sphere

can you help me?

[TheDaniel311]

i did it and sonic cant stand on this sphere

[Vmeep]

looked around youtube, found a video of you?!? XD Nice :) (I'm KedingPrower on dA)

[Kurofox4444]

@Vmeep I think I might be a different KuroFox, sorry D:!

[Vmeep]

@Kurofox4444 wow then they're maaaaaaaany KuroFox XD

[TheChowderman]

Can u use google sketchup to to make a lvl?

[XaneCorpProductions]

@TheChowderman It can be, if you have the right plugin.

[LiamSonic2]

OK. I Made A Stage. What do i do with the Config..XML to change the number of the stages length?

[LiamSonic2]

How do i make character models for BlitzSonic Stages?

[Kurofox4444]

@LiamSonic2 I'm not the person to ask, I haven't made one from scratch. Just try a search on YouTube or Google, there should be a tutorial somewhere.

[LiamSonic2]

@Kurofox4444

I searched but i coundn't find one

[Quackbillion]

uh, i did everything you said, but when i try and play it it says 'memory access violation'. i know it stumbles when it tries to load my b3d file i made. please help! D:

[Kurofox4444]

@Quackbillion The only thing I can really say is to try a different tutorial. This was one of the first videos showing how to make levels using only freeware software, but I'm sure by now there are quite a few more. Since it was the first, there are a lot of issues trying to convert, and it's been so long since I've done it that I can't remember what they are. Sorry about that.

[PVSS55]

or program?



[PVSS55]

what is engine??

[darksonic140]

what progam did u use?

[Kurofox4444]

@darksonic140 Anim8or.

[hiddenbutt]

@Kurofox4444 dude.. i want this engine real bad.. but i cant find it... NOT EVEN AT THE FAN GAME SITE!!! halp ;(

[Kurofox4444]

@hiddenbutt Your best bet is actually youtube, NOT the website for the game...

[JustAtyper]

is there a way to make a Cutscene for Sonic Engine?

[MetalOverlord22]

What's the 360 Engine? Can you please explain?

[Kurofox4444]

@MetalOverlord22 Sorry, it's actually called the Blitz Sonic engine. This is a really old video from when it first came out so it was being called all sorts of things at that point.

[fleXTheConsoleGuy]

it isnt work

[lucaschermontsantos]

where to download the engine, please answer. thanks

[Kurofox4444]

@lucaschermontsantos At this point, I have no idea. Just look around at other videos using this engine and they may have a working link to it. This video is old.

[LiamSonic2]

 levels

[LiamSonic2]

How do i open sonic 360 engine levles. I has stage & Skydome. I looked for the play button and it wasnt their. Can u tell me how to open sonic 360 engine

[MultiPivotmasterdx]

it converts but where it doesnt have a folder named b3d

[Tdak1128]

are there any alternatives other than anim8or?

[Downloader71]

i dont get it

[craponnaruto]

I make levels with Sketchup and export them with plugins

[1Chillboy1]

how the hell can i open the game?

[sonicspirit91]

when i do the translation it isnt in the b3d folder

help

[intricateboy]

umm... how to make spheres bigger

[Shadowtheglitchhog]

well, i have fragmotion and i'm not sure at all with how to create even a single face...

[Kurofox4444]

@Shadowtheglitchhog Don't ask me, I haven't used it much. Try looking for a tutorial though, there's probably something that can help you. Also, what's with this new YouTube interface? Everything is harder to get to...

[Shadowtheglitchhog]

@Kurofox4444 yeah, also it doesn't show the user's icon in the video description too.

[Kurofox4444]

@Shadowtheglitchhog Is there a way to switch it back to default view?

[Shadowtheglitchhog]

@Kurofox4444 probably not

[SnomobileMaster]

i have a problem: i do every thing you said. i didnt make a simple level hough, i made some blocks with textures, to try and run on. io start it, but it says "memory acces violation" help!

[Kurofox4444]

@SnomobileMaster A lot of people seem to have this problem, it might be better to use a different program, because I've noticed some programs have the ability to export in b3d format.

[klmnopp112]

Hmm... I used Google Sketchup to do my level, I saved it as .an8, put it to the AN8TOB3D, it loads it, but then crashes. Help?

[Kurofox4444]

You can save .an8 files from Google Sketchup? Well anyway, try importing it into anim8or and saving it from there.

[TheDaniel311]

how to make a mesh

[supermariospartan11]

it say error on mine

[KeeblerGuy1]

Nvm mind I found out from another video

[KeeblerGuy1]

folder named Test  map named Test texture is a Cat with an AK-47 :D i dont get what i got wrong i know how to use Anim8or i used it a million times An8tob3d worked what did i do wrong do i need to set up another coding for the map to work?

[KeeblerGuy1]

Sorry about this but i get this error and i did everything u said i got to the coding i put Test (with no spaces of course) i replaced Stage1 with Test i saved the notepad started up the game and this message pops up : Game_Update_Stage() - > [Start] Error loading stage "Test" xml. Parse error plz help me with this before u ask i have a Windows XP because it PWNs

[KeeblerGuy1]

kk thnx

[KeeblerGuy1]

o yeah changing the stages name do you make another folder or rename the one thats already there?

[Kurofox4444]

I'd create another folder so you don't overwrite the old stage

[KeeblerGuy1]

Kurofox4444 can you plz make another video on this i really want to do this but this needs to be more pacific (dont how to spell that word :P)

[nmnhon]

I don't find an8 to b3d !!!

please some help !!

[Kurofox4444]

@nmnhon Can you explain?

[nmnhon]

sorry it's ok I find it :o)

[Kurofox4444]

What version of windows do you have?

[blinky342]

when i open the an8tob3d it comes up with stats then loads it but arfter loading it comes of

[Kurofox4444]

@blinky342 Could you explain more?

[blinky342]

@Kurofox4444 ok when i open the setup for an8tob3d it comes up with stats on the top at the botem it's loading but ufter that it doesent do enything

[Kurofox4444]

@blinky342 Does it display your model?

[blinky342]

no it comes up with nuthing

[Kurofox4444]

Can you try checking in the folder it exports to? (Shown in the tutorial video)

Maybe something weird is happening with the display but your stage might still be exporting??...

[blinky342]

@Kurofox4444 no it's with an8tob3d i ope n it and then it starts to load but ufter that nothing happons

[Kurofox4444]

That's what I meant. Try checking the folder that it outputs the .b3d file to.

[blinky342]

what folder i didnt get a file

[Kurofox4444]

The folder is called b3d, it's in the an8 to b3d program folder

[sonicman1234567890]

lol sonic so tiny

[Kurofox4444]

Yeah, that was my mistake while I was making this video :P.

[Goku2132]

Problem:

I did all right,but when I trying to open the game,appears: "Memory Access Violaton",and the game closes :S

[Kurofox4444]

All the text files are case-sensitive, so if you mistyped a single letter or somethings capitalized that's not supposed to be, it will crash. Try to see if that's your problem.

(It might not be, there are a lot of issues that people have with this method...)

[Goku2132]

I have some levels from other persons.I want to play them,but I can't...With that program,I think I will can.But first,I must know if the program to open the levels are Anim8or or

AN8toB3D

[Kurofox4444]

Are they already converted?... I'm not sure if they gave you the raw level file or the level file to put into the game.

[Goku2132]

Well,the level is in a RAR archive,with "Skydome","Stage" and another archive in xml.Only that.

[MilesDude32]

When I use Anim8or, flat places don't work right. But this was still pretty helpful.

[Kurofox4444]

Yes, that's a small problem with the converter I think. Read the previous comments, I've come up with some solutions before.

[sonicfan1100]

and now it is saying, when loading the level, memory access violation, or something along those lines

i did everything in the video.

[Kurofox4444]

Was I supposed to see those last 2 comments? because it looks like you deleted them...

Anyway, where did you put the files? Like the level file and the textures? And did you make sure you didn't mistype any letters? I think everything is case-sensitive, so be careful...

[sonicfan1100]

ok, thnx. i had to rename my level as "stage" because of the MAX file

thanks

[Kurofox4444]

Because of the MAX file?...

[Th33mporor]

hey i'm trying to make a stage that looks like radical highway but its lika act 2 of radical highway

and i made most of the stage in fragmotion but when i play it in blitzsonic its tipped over!

why?

[Kurofox4444]

Could you be more specific?...

[Th33mporor]

nevermind i fixed it!

[Kurofox4444]

Haha ok.

[Th33mporor]

i can't wait to show everyone the stage i'm working on!

hey?

what would be a good stage name besides Radical Highway act 2?

yeah i just gave it away!

[edallinxtrm]

fire lane second stage

[Th33mporor]

cool

ill think about it.

[rayman1995]

i can't find the texture made with the .b3d file.

it's not in the 'textures' map

[Kurofox4444]

It should be in the same area as the converted .b3d file... Like in the same folder, or in a folder inside that folder...

[rayman1995]

there is a 'textures' folder, but it's not there

help

[Kurofox4444]

Well the program doesn't convert the textures, it only copies them there, so just use the original textures you used.

[J10rulez]

not letting me add texture to the sphere

[Kurofox4444]

Have you used Anim8or before? If not, you'll probably want to go through a couple of tutorials.

But if you are used to using Anim8or, could you describe the problem more?

[XXextra]

A quick question, how did you manage to make the image repeat itself over the shape? I can't seem to find out anywhere...

[Kurofox4444]

Oh I didn't actually mention that part... Well you see the button that says "UV"? That stands for UV mapping, and with that you can alter how the texture gets placed on the selected object (Make sure you already have a texture on it, or you won't see what your doing)

[chaomaster42]

ok i didnt find the answer in the comments

[Kurofox4444]

Do you mean your getting an error when you start the game? Or is it when your trying to convert the level?

[chaomaster42]

starting the game

[Kurofox4444]

That usually means there's an issue where you placed the files. Where are the textures? Are they in a folder inside the levels folder?

[chaomaster42]

ok i did everything you said and i got a memory access vialation when i started my level HELP!!!

[Kurofox4444]

There have been a lot of people with your problem, check in the comments first to see if I've answered this problem (not 100% sure I have, but it should be there...)

If you can't find it tell me. (Sorry, I'm just a bit tired right now...)

[Dante0Davis]

where is sonic 360 I can't find it anywhere

nowher no google no youtube. all i find are stage downloads plz help

[Kurofox4444]

Try my video description :P... but you really couldn't find the engine on youtube? I'm surprised...

[XXextra]

Right, I've managed to create my stage... but now sonic stands at weird angles on flat platforms! Is there any way I can fix this?

[Kurofox4444]

This is a weird issue that happens to everyone... the only way I've found to fix this is to subdivide the faces (by a value of 1) a few times to make the object have more polygons.

(More technical description:)

The way the engine works is... when sonic is running along a curving slope, the engine averages the angles so it looks perfectly smooth even though it's not...

(Ran out of space, I'll continue in another comment)

[Kurofox4444]

When exporting objects in Anim8or and converting them, for some reason, it doesn't seem to take into account that some angles aren't smooth. So the engine tries to guess what angle your at even when your on a box, and each angle is 90 degrees...

Try different things and see if something works better than my ideas (And tell me what you did XD)

[XXextra]

Yay thanks alot!! Subdividing the faces seemed to do the trick. Well, at least he's standing the right way up now!

[Kurofox4444]

Thanks good :P... Glad I could help.

[Addicted2gaming]

I find that my biggest complain with Anim8or is that it makes VERY big files, especially when you convert models into meshes like you did, and making subdivisions.Say for example. your Green Hill level, I tried making a level about the size of the sand area at the start of your level and I ended up with an over 2mb file. What happens is that this makes an8tob3d take like 20-30 minutes to convert it. Could you tell me how big your Green Hill b3d file is? Do you know any way around this?

[Kurofox4444]

I don't have the file on this computer, but I remember it did take quite a long time to convert (though, not more than 2 minutes, but that's still a fairly long time...)

I didn't know Anim8or did that... You can always make it in another program if you can find a converter for it.

[ArtefactMP]

I wish i would edit mario kart 64 like this

[zackpack13]

it not working why the 3d thing is not help me plzs. i have window vista.

[Kurofox4444]

I don't understand what your saying. This works with Vista though, I made it in Vista.

[kyokochan1]

can you use AN8toB3D to make a B3D file in to an AN8

[Kurofox4444]

No, I don't think so, sorry.

[zackpack13]

hey uh can you send me that maker that you use for it plzs i want to make my own game.

[Kurofox4444]

What?...

[zackpack13]

sorry ya uh how do i use the maker becouse i dont know how to you naver show your mouse so i dident see what you click on.????

[magicwand667]

OMG! THIS MAKES SENSE! ILL SUBSCRIBE!

[frvray]

give me a tutorials via text and pictures only (A word document) plss?

[Kurofox4444]

Try looking around youtube for another tutorial if this doesn't make sense, only because I don't really have time to make something like that... sorry.

[rhonddaboy13]

how do i get the grid up

[Kurofox4444]

Should be up by default, just look in the options.

[chaomaster42]

i did everything by the letter but it said error loading it i didnt add texture was i supposed to

[Kurofox4444]

Could you be more specific?

[chaomaster42]

ok i made a level like the ball added a texture made it mesh then saved it i converted it with the program and got the texture folder and converted file from the program derectory i made a folder(stage3) i made it so it would launch that stage but it gave me an error when i tryed launching

[Kurofox4444]

Hm... It didn't say what kind of error?... like missing file or something?

Did you put the textures in the same folder as the level file? (not in a folder inside the folder with the level file) And did you make sure all the names are exactly correct? (They are case-sensitive)...

[chaomaster42]

ok im using the dte engine test

does that have somthing to do with it

[Kurofox4444]

I don't know what that is.

[chaomaster42]

deiazem and mark the echindnas engine

[Kurofox4444]

I don't know, could you provide a link to it? (you may need to PM it since youtube tries to block links in comments)

[nilsding]

can i also use cinema 4d?

[Kurofox4444]

I have no idea, sorry.

[LeoGriv2]

w8 so this thing only works on a windows computer?

[Kurofox4444]

Yes

[LeoGriv2]

3 words to your reply Kuro:

GOD DAM IT!

[Kurofox4444]

Haha, sorry, but what are you using?... Sometimes there's ways around it...

[vamayro]

i converted the files but couldnt find the directory. can anyone tell me where to find it?

[chaomaster42]

c drive program files then an8tob3d folder

[SuperSonicSpeed1000]

there yago!

[SuperSonicSpeed1000]

wait, I going to re upload it,

[SuperSonicSpeed1000]

I made a response, I think that should help!

[BAKUGANS]

how did you get sonic?

[Kurofox4444]

Do you mean the engine? Look in the video description...

[ToxxicTV]

Is there a different program, beside an8tob3d, that i can use because trend micro internet security wont let me run that one....

[Kurofox4444]

Well theres a program called "FragMotion" Which I think can export to .b3d, but it doesn't have many import options...

[qwertysonic]

Fragmotion is what bagjac uses for his hacks.He really likes it. I've tried it and it's fairly easy to use.

[chaomaster42]

how do you make a level with it?

[YamatoSonic64]

Can you make another video,,,i'm lost lol

[Bree71199]

how do you add the texture

[Jimmy57452]

Make a WORKING tutorial please.

Followed it through, Sonic spawns in the game, and just falls. There's no pieces to walk on in the fucking game.

[Kurofox4444]

I know I know... I haven't been into level design lately, so I haven't been able to make the second version to this tutorial I was talking about before... Hopefully I can make it at some point...

[Jimmy57452]

W-wait, I was doing it completely wrong. Forgot to put the file in the Stage folder :S

Great tutorial.

[Jimmy57452]

Hmm...when I add textures to things in Anim8or, it doesn't even show the textures in the game, and I put the texture files into Stages\*stage name*\Stage. I also tried putting the entire texture folder in the Stage folder as well, but no luck.

[Kurofox4444]

Hahaha, alright...

Hmm... did you put the texture files in the same folder as the stage model file?... (The stage is showing up in the game right?)

[Jimmy57452]

Did that, and the stage shows up - not the textures.

[Kurofox4444]

That's odd... what file type are the textures?

[Jimmy57452]

They are bitmaps.

[Metalsonic2008]

what the fuck?! blitz3d is this powerful? you know the example files. do you? the dragon one. i redone the cube he was, redone with grassy box, and the dragon model was replaced with a mancubus from doom 3! now thats what i can only do in it... loved that mario game too!

[Kurofox4444]

That seems to happen sometimes... I'm not sure why... Try opening the file in a different way (such as dragging the file onto the EXE file, etc...) Sometimes that gets it to work.

[Kylegamer98]

I have a problem. When the level loads, Sonic stands and runs a little to the side. Running is very hard, because it's like there are bumps in the ground. Can someone help?

[Kurofox4444]

Yes, this is a problem I run into a lot, but I haven't found a good solution to it yet...

To help make it easier to walk on, subdivide the shape about 4 or more times with the value of 1 (instead of 0) in the box. If that doesn't help, leave another comment.